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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Show, Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty Tim

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<v Speaker 2>what could be a.

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<v Speaker 3>Significant step towards peace Ukraine agreeing to President Trump's proposal

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<v Speaker 3>for a thirty day seaspire, with the President turning the

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<v Speaker 3>spotlight on Russia, announcing he will speak to President Putin.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully President Putin will agree to that also, and we could.

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<v Speaker 1>Get this show on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Secretary of State Rubio leading the talks in Saudi Arabia,

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<v Speaker 3>also saying Russia must make the next move.

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<v Speaker 5>Balls now in their court. As they say no, then, well,

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<v Speaker 5>unfortunately know what the impediment is to piece here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm hoping, as Keirs Simmons reporting on NBC,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping we're a out to see the squeeze on Putin. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they had to get everything lined up, Squeezings and Lensky

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<v Speaker 1>to agree to the deal. Deals in place, As Rubio said,

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of State, balls in Putin's court now, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping maybe you start putting pressure on Putin or saying

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<v Speaker 1>some bad things about him if he doesn't go along.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll find out.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's an interesting strategy if indeed it is a

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a coherent strategy, and I don't know that

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<v Speaker 6>it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it is.

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<v Speaker 6>Um no, and Putin is so completely, almost ridiculously unreliable

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<v Speaker 6>as a party to an agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's Richard Engel of NBC with a little analysis

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<v Speaker 1>on it.

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<v Speaker 4>So it has been a very trying time, fast moving events,

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<v Speaker 4>especially when people here know that their country is on

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<v Speaker 4>the line, that the future map of Ukraine is being

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<v Speaker 4>redrawn at this moment, and it is happening so quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>But today, today, at this very moment, I think they

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<v Speaker 4>feel quite satisfied with the end of this diplomatic process

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<v Speaker 4>because they want this. They want a piece, they say

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<v Speaker 4>that they want, however, a lasting piece, and if a

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<v Speaker 4>ceasefire can bring those negotiations, they certainly welcome it. And

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<v Speaker 4>if it can expose Vladimir Putin as someone who doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>want an agreement, all the better for Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's interesting. And Richard Ingle wouldn't say that Ukraine's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty happy with this if they weren't, right, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get this on. This is somebody on CNN because

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<v Speaker 1>I was accused of spouting MSNBC talking points on the

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<v Speaker 1>text line earlier, this being one of them.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a win for Ukraine and it gives them a

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<v Speaker 7>chance now to flip the narrative that the ball is

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<v Speaker 7>in Russia's court and now if Russia wants to be

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<v Speaker 7>the bad guy, you know, Putin has to decide.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I miss read it. I said earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>might be a win for Russia and that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if he agrees to a cease fire. It's the same

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<v Speaker 1>reason Hamas agreed to various ceasefires, so they could you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get some food and get some more ammunition and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get their act together so they could attack again.

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<v Speaker 6>Ship in some more North Koreans to get mowed down

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<v Speaker 6>by machine guns the first day there in country.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was accused of spouting MSNBC talking points there,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not an argument. Well yeah, but it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that Richard Engel and the CNN reporter both say Ukraine's

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<v Speaker 1>happy about this. It's a win for Ukraine to get this, Okay. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's our friend Josh Rogan of the Washington Post on

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<v Speaker 1>CNN eighty five.

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<v Speaker 8>I think what Zelenski achieved here was that he put

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<v Speaker 8>the spotlight back on the Russians to show that if

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<v Speaker 8>there's no ceasefire, it's Putin's fault, not Zelensky's fault. The

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<v Speaker 8>problem with the Oval Office meeting was that it convinced

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<v Speaker 8>Trump that the lack of peace was Zelenski's fault, and

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<v Speaker 8>he blames Elenskin. He punished the Ukrainians. Now it's on Putin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know with Trump how much is strategy and

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<v Speaker 6>how much is a reaction to being challenged, because he

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<v Speaker 6>has a very rigid, hot temperty reaction to being challenged

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<v Speaker 6>by anybody, whether it's Zelensky or who was absolutely out

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<v Speaker 6>of line trying to litigate the case in front of

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<v Speaker 6>the cameras when everybody's supposed to shake hands and make nice. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>But the recent experience with Doug Ford up in Canada,

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<v Speaker 6>the premiere of Ontario saying all right, you're gonna levy

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<v Speaker 6>tariffs on off us. We're going to levy tariffs on you,

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<v Speaker 6>including the electricity, and Trump went nuts. I mean, his

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<v Speaker 6>rhetoric was like over the top. So there are those

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<v Speaker 6>though I could see you writing your emails right now,

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<v Speaker 6>say no that is the strategy. It's the Madman theory,

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<v Speaker 6>throwing everything up in the air, getting everybody on their heels.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he goes in and crafts the deal he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to craft. I can't believe we cut off intelligence to

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine allowing that how they.

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<v Speaker 6>Get early alerts of a haack, drone attacks and missile

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<v Speaker 6>attacks so their civilians can run down in the air

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<v Speaker 6>raid shelters. We cut that off for a few days.

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<v Speaker 6>Why to force force them to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Anyway, this I found very very interesting and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of shakes up my view of the whole ceasepire thing

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Russia's economy and how bad it is.

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<v Speaker 5>That war is devastating Russia. They've raised interest rates to

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<v Speaker 5>twenty one percent because inflation is so high. They claim

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<v Speaker 5>inflation is nine percent, But that's bs. You don't have

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<v Speaker 5>twenty one percent interest rates if you have nine percent inflation.

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<v Speaker 5>True inflation is by forty percent or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>The cost of borrowing is you want a mortgage in

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<v Speaker 5>moscows by thirty forty percent. Enterprises right now, a third

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<v Speaker 5>of enterprises right now are not paying each other. They

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<v Speaker 5>don't have the money to pay each other. Factories but

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<v Speaker 5>butter is being locked up in supermarkets because it's become

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<v Speaker 5>so expensive that people are stealing it. Couldn't does not

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<v Speaker 5>have unlimited time. If the Ukrainians can hold out one

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<v Speaker 5>more year, Russia's economy collapses.

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<v Speaker 1>Been hearing that for a while though, since the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the war, when we really put the squeeze on them,

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<v Speaker 1>that they Russia wouldn't last long. But China gets around it.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of our friends continue to buy stuff from Russia.

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<v Speaker 6>I've read equally learned commentators say that indeed, yeah, Russia

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<v Speaker 6>and the Axis of a Holes as we like to

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<v Speaker 6>call it, have have made it so that Russia is

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<v Speaker 6>not really that isolated, and economically they're doing much better

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<v Speaker 6>than anybody expected.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if mortgage a mortgages are.

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<v Speaker 6>Thirty forty percent, and that's an economy that's in terrible shape.

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<v Speaker 1>If inflation's anywhere close to forty percent, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's half that, you would think he's not long for

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<v Speaker 1>this world. Putin, somebody would take him out, you would think.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it is a country run by Olive Arts,

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<v Speaker 1>as has been reported for decades now, those are billionaires

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<v Speaker 1>who run the country and keep putting an office. Why

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to continue that? Yeah? Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>heard the rest of that report. That guy is Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>Brazinski on NBC, former Wall Street Journal reporter. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what he does now, but he made the point that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these dictators seem solid as a rock until

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<v Speaker 1>the day they're not. Let's see Ryan bashar Assad in

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<v Speaker 1>Syria or whatever. It's so unpredictable, you just never know.

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<v Speaker 6>So this is a quick aside for the golfers in

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<v Speaker 6>the audience, although I think everybody will get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a conversation the other day.

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<v Speaker 6>We were going to play, but the forecast was terrible,

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<v Speaker 6>and we got this text string. There are twelve of

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<v Speaker 6>us that were going to play, and everybody was like

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<v Speaker 6>feeling each other out. I looks kind of rough today.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not gonna be the first to pull out, but

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<v Speaker 6>what that forecast? The other guy right back? Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>kind of kind of rough looking, don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>could go either way, but nobody wants to be the

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<v Speaker 6>first guy to pull out, so you feel each other out.

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<v Speaker 6>And I had a conversation with a buddy of mine

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<v Speaker 6>that it's exactly like when somebody wants to stage a coup,

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<v Speaker 6>like if you want to get rid of Putin. There's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of boy Putin's some interesting moves lately, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>And then you're waiting for somebody to say, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think it's very smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you know, I think give you a slightly different look.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, but I like them. They're interesting. But there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thinking outside the box. And I innovative was

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<v Speaker 1>the word I was looking for her.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so what do you Then you turn to the

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<v Speaker 6>other guy, But what do you think of the job

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<v Speaker 6>our beloved leaders doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>I got some questions. You're just looking for hints.

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<v Speaker 6>That somebody's with you, except deciding whether to play golf

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<v Speaker 6>or not generally doesn't involve being shoved out a window

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<v Speaker 6>or executed as a trader after, you know, was several

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<v Speaker 6>months of beating his torture.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and he had that weekend where it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>Progosion might march all the way to Moscow and have

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<v Speaker 1>a showdown, but he backed off for whatever reason and

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<v Speaker 1>then ended up being murdered in a plane crash.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, was he not the absolute classic example of if

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<v Speaker 6>you're gonna shoot at the King, don't miss.

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<v Speaker 2>How was that?

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<v Speaker 6>And don't say, you know what, I got a hothead.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so sorry, my majesty. I'm I'm good. We're good though,

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<v Speaker 6>We're good right now, that's not a choice.

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<v Speaker 4>How did the.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys wiley as him think he was ever gonna survive?

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<v Speaker 1>That he thought he had cards to play? Wow? Misread

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<v Speaker 1>that one. I wonder if he I wonder if he

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<v Speaker 1>thought that is the plane was plunging toward earth. I

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<v Speaker 1>really thought I had that figured plat. Yeah, anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>who knows where this is direction is going? I I

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<v Speaker 1>hope we hear some slightly nasty language about Putin, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst people on planet Earth. Yeah, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>we hear something, you know, not favorable about the guy.

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<v Speaker 6>A totalitarian megalomaniac who has zero interest in quote unquote

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<v Speaker 6>protecting Christianity no matter what your favorite lack adoodal right

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<v Speaker 6>wing influencer, and I'm a right winger is trying to

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<v Speaker 6>tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>So this hour, a state farm executive state farm Insurance

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<v Speaker 1>in California got caught on a hot mic on purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a trap saying some really bad things, and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's out of a job. About those of us

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<v Speaker 1>who pay for insurance.

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<v Speaker 6>And it all fits into the greater story of rebuilding

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<v Speaker 6>LA after the cataclysmic wildfires, and how especially on the

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<v Speaker 6>left of politics, which is really the only side that

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<v Speaker 6>matters in California, they are really hot to trot to

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<v Speaker 6>not let this crisis go to waste what they're going

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<v Speaker 6>to try to accomplish.

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<v Speaker 1>And the secret recording is a warning to those of

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<v Speaker 1>you that be careful on your Tinder dates. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this person that might be your lesson for the

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<v Speaker 1>day among us. I'll file that one away among other things.

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<v Speaker 1>On the way. Stay here.

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<v Speaker 9>The Museum of Failure houses some of the world's greatest flops.

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<v Speaker 9>Visitors can see attractions such as crystal Pepsi, carrot cake Oreos,

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<v Speaker 9>and of course that Don Lemon exhibits.

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<v Speaker 6>This tone of voice. Made that joke I read about

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<v Speaker 6>the Museum of Failure. It's actually a cool idea. There's

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<v Speaker 6>a huge legal dispute going on right now, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>the idea being, yeah, yeah, failure doesn't stop you. You

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<v Speaker 6>had to set back, you learn from it, you move on.

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<v Speaker 6>It's kind of a cool idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So coming up, we're gonna talk about this audio that

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<v Speaker 1>was secretly recorded of a state farm executive and it

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<v Speaker 1>gets into the how businesses become woken all that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But the dude was secretly recorded on a

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<v Speaker 1>tender date that he thought was real but turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, a honeypot sort of sting to

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<v Speaker 1>get him to talk and record him. And we actually

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<v Speaker 1>got into the conversation about this online dating stuff during

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<v Speaker 1>the commercials. Katie, you've done online dating. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>remember if you talked about that or not. Nobody else

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<v Speaker 1>here has I don't think, Yeah you have, Yeah, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe obviously has it. Michael, you haven't.

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<v Speaker 6>No, No, I wait, And judging from your tone of voice,

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<v Speaker 6>it was just a bull of cherry.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know a lot of people that have, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that they all say is nobody

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<v Speaker 1>looks even close to like their picture, at least particularly

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<v Speaker 1>the tender stuff. I don't know about. Maybe e harmony

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<v Speaker 1>is more I don't know, real than that. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's from what I understand, Tinder is still more

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<v Speaker 1>of a hookup app than the looking for my husband

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<v Speaker 1>or wife.

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<v Speaker 10>It kind of went down in the ranks as a

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<v Speaker 10>hookup app because there are more hook up apps that

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<v Speaker 10>have develop.

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<v Speaker 1>Since I used it, But yeah, it's it's probably it

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<v Speaker 1>probably probably floats around just like the popular bar huh.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah yeah, And I mean I used it before all

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<v Speaker 10>of the filters and stuff were a big deal. But

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<v Speaker 10>I noticed that the guys tend to put up like

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<v Speaker 10>the best pictures obviously of themselves, that make it look

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<v Speaker 10>like they have different occupations than they actually have.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, wearing the medical lab code and that sort of thing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>our business suit. Well, putting up the best picture of

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<v Speaker 1>yourself is you know, yeah, it's par for the course.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody does that. But if it if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't look like it, I mean I would. I have

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<v Speaker 1>heard people talk about you walk into the coffee shop

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is and you don't even know that's

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<v Speaker 1>them over there. Yeah, I didn't go through that.

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<v Speaker 6>I was reading something the other day and got one

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<v Speaker 6>of those pop up ads in the middle of the article,

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<v Speaker 6>and it was for a filter app, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>saying the message of it was essentially for dating apps,

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<v Speaker 6>that the other apps make you look totally unlike yourself

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<v Speaker 6>and not like a real person. Our app makes you

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<v Speaker 6>look totally unlike yourself, but like a real person, just

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<v Speaker 6>not you.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a much better app and.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought, Wow, so they just it's obviously just completely

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<v Speaker 6>accepted that that's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you can't get in the you can't make the

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<v Speaker 1>sale unless you get in the door. That's such a

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<v Speaker 1>shameless move. My anxiety would be through the roofified.

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<v Speaker 10>At that, going, oh my god, this guy's gonna walk

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<v Speaker 10>in here, and that is not me in that photo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not not going to do that, like out of

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<v Speaker 1>some moral conviction about online dating. If I were ever

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it, it'd be out of I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have expectations set. I don't want to look

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<v Speaker 1>at a disappointed face as they turn around and walk

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<v Speaker 1>back out the door. That sounds horrible. Jack gives himself

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<v Speaker 1>a nine inch mullet. Just better to have.

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<v Speaker 6>A picture of yourself like at the end of a

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<v Speaker 6>long night of drinking, half incoherent, uncamped, with the snot

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<v Speaker 6>coming out of your nose. Yeah, that way, anybody you

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<v Speaker 6>know is going to be pleased when you show up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, oh gosh, great, asked Michael. No, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking, yeah, what is it any different than like

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<v Speaker 1>I had a quarter pounder with Jees at the McDonald yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not look like the one on the poster

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<v Speaker 1>in the restaurant. It didn't have the big fluffy lettuce

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<v Speaker 1>with the buns standing up over a fresh tomato and

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff. So you know advertising, Like

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<v Speaker 1>Joe said, yeah, well, it's it's similar. I'd say, looks

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<v Speaker 1>are more fundamental to the dancer of love than they

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<v Speaker 1>are wolfing down a cut rate burger. True, it's it's related.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard such an interesting podcast the other day. I

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<v Speaker 1>meant to bring some of this on the air and

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<v Speaker 1>look into it more about how damaging for society online

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<v Speaker 1>dating is for a variety of reasons, and statistics were amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like ten percent of dudes are like the entire

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<v Speaker 1>online thing, and certain to a certain extent, same with women,

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<v Speaker 1>although it's a little different women just for the obvious

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<v Speaker 1>thing that guys will have sex with practically anybody, but

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<v Speaker 1>so they have a lot more opportunities. But there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten percent of dudes who are good looking.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them might not be good people, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're good looking enough that like are eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the of the matches and the people that go on dates.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just the same ten percent of dudes dating

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<v Speaker 1>and having sex over and over and over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again, taking women out to eat, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people get burnt out on the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>because of that.

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<v Speaker 10>I think I mentioned this to you guys before, But

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<v Speaker 10>I was with a group of twenty somethings and they

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<v Speaker 10>were all on their dating apps, and they were sitting

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<v Speaker 10>there next to each other making sure that each other

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<v Speaker 10>were not talking to the same guys that they had

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<v Speaker 10>matched with, and I'm going, oh my god, I'm so

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<v Speaker 10>glad I'm not in this right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's because that pool is so small. Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>whatever town you're in or you know zip code you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting in there.

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<v Speaker 6>I think coming up, the rebuilding of Los Angeles has

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<v Speaker 6>not surprisingly run headlong head on into politics, particularly progressive politics.

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<v Speaker 6>How that might play out and more coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this secretly recorded state farm agent because of a

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<v Speaker 1>tender date, bad idea. I got that on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>You stay here, armstrong and getty, like in.

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<v Speaker 5>Marin County in northern California, or some of the fringe

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<v Speaker 5>areas like where the count states.

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<v Speaker 1>Are can never be houses where like people want to

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<v Speaker 1>be filled in areas where I like really hard for

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<v Speaker 1>you that are here probably listening on the radio. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a state former state farm executive. He's been fired now,

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden Kirkpatrick. He was on a tender date in the

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<v Speaker 1>tender dages. What do you do for a living? Ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>home insurance sounds fascinating. Tell me more to get to

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<v Speaker 1>get him to talk about, among other things, their emergency

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<v Speaker 1>filing with the state of Californi after the horrifying fires

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles, and Kilpatrick, the state farm executive now fired,

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<v Speaker 1>actually said that they went into a panic when they

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<v Speaker 1>realized how much this was gonna cost. To quote, our

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<v Speaker 1>people look at this and says, we've got like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars that were short if something happens. So

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<v Speaker 1>they had to go to the Department Insurance and say

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<v Speaker 1>we're overexposed. Here, you have to let us catch up.

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<v Speaker 1>They say no, and then we say, okay, well we're

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna cancel all these policies. So well, that

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty well known so far. Yeah, So I just

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<v Speaker 1>in general, the whole insurance thing, my life experience has

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<v Speaker 1>been you pay insurance your whole life, and then if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a wreck or something happens, to your house,

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<v Speaker 1>they either drop you or jack up your rates so

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<v Speaker 1>much that you end up paying back for what they covered.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what's happened to me anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, yeah, you know, it reminds me of the discussion

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<v Speaker 6>we had earlier about how people don't tend to sympathize

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<v Speaker 6>with convict inmates even when what's being done is horrible

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<v Speaker 6>and indefensible. It's just not a super sympathetic you know

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<v Speaker 6>a target. Likewise, insurance companies. I mean, even if the

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<v Speaker 6>way they have been done by the state is indefensible,

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<v Speaker 6>it's tough to work up many tears.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then I don't know it's being seen as

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<v Speaker 1>controversial that he said that people shouldn't have been building

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<v Speaker 1>in those areas anyway. It's just for their egos. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to live in a beautiful area like this and

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<v Speaker 1>there shouldn't even be homes there. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's controversial.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, people want to live in beautiful places. It's not

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<v Speaker 6>much of a revelation whether it's for your ego or

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<v Speaker 6>you like the view. Well, and it's indisputable, and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not some sort of industry hack. But as metro areas grow,

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<v Speaker 6>people are living in. There's a term for it where

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<v Speaker 6>you know, more urban areas meet nature and there's much

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<v Speaker 6>great fire risk, particularly in a place like California or

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<v Speaker 6>anywhere in the Westerlia.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this state farm exec was fired

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<v Speaker 1>because he said something we didn't mostly already know, or

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<v Speaker 1>because the company thought, if you're going to go on

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<v Speaker 1>tender dates with randos and start talking about the way

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<v Speaker 1>we do business in the state, and maybe you should

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<v Speaker 1>work somewhere else. So is there more that's controversial about this? Really? Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to the state and say, look, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't let us jack up the rates, we're gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>canceling all these policies. Is not seen as cool, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the way he phrased it, but that's precisely the case

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<v Speaker 1>State farms to take it. It's exactly what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exactly what happens.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't be talking business with bimbos, yes, no, biz with

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<v Speaker 6>BIMs right, Okay, So I thought this was interesting speaking

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<v Speaker 6>of that sort of thing. The Wall Street Journal is

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<v Speaker 6>talking to a realtor about transactions going on people trying

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<v Speaker 6>to buy properties that are still standing or land or whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>and nobody can get insurance. And the one deal she's

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<v Speaker 6>closed lately, it was a seven figure purchase. The buyer said, no,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't get insurance. I'll be self insured. I'll just

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<v Speaker 6>if my place burns down, I'm out. And that was

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<v Speaker 6>the only one she's closed in recent days.

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<v Speaker 1>Because so you've got a really expensive place and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to sell it, and you find out you can't

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<v Speaker 1>sell it because nobody can get insurance. That is rough

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<v Speaker 1>right as they put it.

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<v Speaker 6>The question for LA isn't so much how to rebuild

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<v Speaker 6>the palisades, but who pays if it burns again? Said

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<v Speaker 6>State Farm General, writing the State Insurance Commissioner, not on

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<v Speaker 6>a tender day quote writing new policies doesn't make any

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<v Speaker 6>sense at this time. The headline of the article, LA

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<v Speaker 6>has big plans to rebuild after the fire's good luck

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<v Speaker 6>getting insurance, and of course these states insure of last resort,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever that's called. I can't remember because its kind of

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<v Speaker 6>an innocuous name. But it's way crazy overexposed right now.

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<v Speaker 6>The amount of money on hand versus the risk is

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<v Speaker 6>way out of proportion that any insurance company has ever

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<v Speaker 6>behaved on Earth. And then when they get fleeced, the

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<v Speaker 6>rate payers in California pay according to the law, just

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<v Speaker 6>a giant searcharge on top of your insurance if you

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<v Speaker 6>have any. Anyway, I thought this was interesting, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the article is ostensibly about how more progressive political forces

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<v Speaker 6>are looking at the charred areas of Altadena and Pacific Palisades,

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<v Speaker 6>all those places we saw on the news if you

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<v Speaker 6>don't live in the LA area, rebuilding them. And how

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<v Speaker 6>now is our opportunity MOA. Instead of leafy streets and

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<v Speaker 6>lawns and pleasant little bungalows housing singular families, We're going

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<v Speaker 6>to have apartment plexus everywhere, multifamily housing, affordable housing, Section

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<v Speaker 6>eight housing. This is what we're going to do, and

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<v Speaker 6>the politics of that playing out will be really interesting

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<v Speaker 6>to watch. I'll be shocked if that doesn't happen, because

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<v Speaker 6>there's well, there's a hell of a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 6>which means a hell of a lot of power in

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<v Speaker 6>those places. Remember when what was that story we had

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<v Speaker 6>from Beverly Hills years ago where it turned out all

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<v Speaker 6>the ways that they were getting around the various regulations

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<v Speaker 6>for having low income housing and everything like that because

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<v Speaker 6>they could afford to play the game. Oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 6>litigated plus they'd make big contributions to the politicians who

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<v Speaker 6>have no beliefs, in no souls anyway, like Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 6>actually cares about one issue or another. Now right, they

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<v Speaker 6>would like list potential available housing, including an area above

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<v Speaker 6>a BMW dealer, and the owners like, wait a minute, no,

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<v Speaker 6>we're not building apartments there, it's our business office. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>so yeah, the richer suburbs have all sorts of ways

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<v Speaker 6>to get around the regulations. And that's an interesting topic.

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<v Speaker 6>But in reading this story, Jack and anybody interested in

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<v Speaker 6>journalism or fan of the Wall Street journalism I've been

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<v Speaker 6>for many, many years, This dude, Conrad puts.

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<v Speaker 1>Your who writes this story?

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<v Speaker 6>It is as if it's in well, the La Times

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<v Speaker 6>or the USA Today or the Super Liberal before Jeff

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<v Speaker 6>Bezos threatened to spank people, Washington Post, the You know,

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<v Speaker 6>I can read you some some specific sentences. It's about,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the very topic I was describing. Now, California

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<v Speaker 6>faces a choice. Will it build the housing it badly

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<v Speaker 6>needs or will it accept economic stagnation for the price

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<v Speaker 6>of leafy neighborhoods and single family homes.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's in the news story. Uh, yes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a news story.

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<v Speaker 6>Here California's housing shortage is at the root of its

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<v Speaker 6>economic problems. Residents are leaving for other states at a

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<v Speaker 6>rapid clip. Economic expansion lags behind states like Texas and Florida.

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<v Speaker 6>And then they go into some other stats about how

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<v Speaker 6>terrible the economy is in California, inflation driven in large

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<v Speaker 6>part by housing costs, is eating intrenderous living standards, and

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<v Speaker 6>attributes it all. Not a single word in the Wall

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<v Speaker 6>Street Journal about California ranks fiftieth for business climate year

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<v Speaker 6>after year after year. Do you think that's having an

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<v Speaker 6>effect on the economy? But no, they say, no, it's

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<v Speaker 6>all about housing costs. And they mentioned state and local

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<v Speaker 6>red tape, but they never mentioned the fringe environmental lobby

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<v Speaker 6>that also won't let building happen, and any expansion of

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<v Speaker 6>the footprint of a city. They want it all to

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<v Speaker 6>be high rise, affordable housing right next to public transit.

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<v Speaker 6>But the Wall Street blank and doesn't even touch on that. Man,

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<v Speaker 6>that's crazy. Is it just because if you want to

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<v Speaker 6>hire young journalists or a place that people have retired

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<v Speaker 6>or moved on or whatever, it's impossible to find somebody

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<v Speaker 6>who's not completely woke.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how about presenting it like as a pejorative that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to live on a quiet, leafy street.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, everybody should live in apartment complexes. Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>mean to be like the cold warrior, which I am,

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<v Speaker 6>but I've been to former communist countries and they believe

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<v Speaker 6>firmly and everybody ought to live in a crappy apartment

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<v Speaker 6>and the architecture and their lives were miserable. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>our lefties want to do that. Final note from LA

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<v Speaker 6>and the wildfires and the politics around the rebuilding. According

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<v Speaker 6>to the Los Angeles Times, Karen Bass the union hack, utterly, dishonest,

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<v Speaker 6>selfish soul mayor who anybody who's been following California politics

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<v Speaker 6>for a long time knows exactly what she is. She

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<v Speaker 6>is deleting her text messages, thus defeating efforts by media

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<v Speaker 6>organizations to obtain them as government communications subject.

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<v Speaker 1>To public records requests.

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<v Speaker 6>According to the LA Times, The Times reported had been

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<v Speaker 6>unable to obtain her text messages concerning her over and

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<v Speaker 6>sees trip to Ghana because they were automatically deleted and

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<v Speaker 6>the city had not retained them in spite of laws

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<v Speaker 6>to the contrary. The Time suggests that best is violating

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<v Speaker 6>both state law and the city's own administrative code.

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<v Speaker 1>Her phone is set to erase text messages. Nice.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the fact that LA rejected a thoroughly moderate, reasonable

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<v Speaker 6>quote unquote Democrat in favor of this union hack is

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<v Speaker 6>it's just a measure of the depth of the just

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<v Speaker 6>utter dysfunction of LA politics, California politics.

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<v Speaker 1>End of screed. Last night, I had one of those

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<v Speaker 1>deals that happens when your kids get to a certain

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<v Speaker 1>edge where I had to run Henry to his boy

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<v Speaker 1>Scout meeting, drop him off a little early and let

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<v Speaker 1>him cool his heels while I ran to his brother's

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<v Speaker 1>band concert and caught most of that before I left

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<v Speaker 1>early to get back to pick up the other kid

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<v Speaker 1>from the boy Scout meeting. But the band concert was

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<v Speaker 1>really pretty good. You told me that when they get

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<v Speaker 1>older it actually starts to become you know, like decent

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<v Speaker 1>music whatever. And at the high school level, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's a sliding scale, a continuum, a spectrum, if

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<v Speaker 6>you will, between sacrificing for my child and being entertained

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<v Speaker 6>and by the time they're like, you know, getting on

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<v Speaker 6>in high school or even college. Oh no, it's one

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<v Speaker 6>hundred percent entertainment's just great music. But here's the main

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<v Speaker 6>reason I brought it up is they had to There

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<v Speaker 6>was a dress code. They had to dress up a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit to play at this little amphitheater thing, and

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<v Speaker 6>you had to wear a tie, either a bow tie

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<v Speaker 6>or a regular straight tie.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody ever even mentioned a bow tie when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. I mean, you'd have been the weirdest, dorkiest

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<v Speaker 1>dork of all time if you were a bow tie

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<v Speaker 1>when I was younger. But now probably twenty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the dudes had bow ties on, including my son who

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to wear a bow tie. So has a bowtie

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<v Speaker 1>made it come back? Apparently clearly? Yeah, Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>better tie. I was looking at it helping him put

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<v Speaker 1>it on, much easier to put on, I mean, not

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<v Speaker 1>a real you tie it tie bow tie, but like

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<v Speaker 1>a clip on bow tie is way better than a

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<v Speaker 1>clip on tie tie. And uh, it's just it's a

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<v Speaker 1>cool look and it makes and the tie is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what is a tie?

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<v Speaker 6>What is Well, you're clearly an anti tiest. I am

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<v Speaker 6>agnostic on the question. I think they're both fine. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>in the even a fan of the bolo Although it's

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<v Speaker 6>a stretch to call it a tie, It's an adornment.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a through a bolo face for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked the bolo tie. But yeah, my son looked

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<v Speaker 1>really good in the I got it at Target. I

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<v Speaker 1>bought it may Target to bow tie. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the fanciest thing in the world. So why

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<v Speaker 1>did you abandon the bolo tie? Look?

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<v Speaker 6>Because you are proudly a Middle American? You know, quote

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<v Speaker 6>unquote hick m. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do it with the soup jacket, although a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people do. Huh. I like it. It work anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't know that, the bow tie has definitely

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<v Speaker 1>made a comeback. So show up to your next secretly

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<v Speaker 1>recording Tinder date in a bow tie and see how

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<v Speaker 1>it works for you. More on the way, stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I take in news from a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different sources. That's kind of what we do for

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<v Speaker 1>a living. But so I taken stuff from MSNBC and

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<v Speaker 1>USA Today, and boy, we just got this text about

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall Street Journal. Hey, I love the show. Other

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<v Speaker 1>than the editorial page, the Wall Street Journal has become

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<v Speaker 1>a left center rag. I've subscribed for over a decade,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm considering canceling. That's interesting that a number of

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<v Speaker 1>people have pointed that out recently. Yeah, that's interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't find the editor real board left well they said

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<v Speaker 1>notes with that person, oh other than I'm sorry, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh but the reason I brought this up is

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<v Speaker 1>a bouncing around Maga Twitter. I've noticed that the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Obama and mccrone's wife have wedding tackle theme is

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<v Speaker 1>a regular story. Goodness. Oh so that's just for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an ongoing thing. To what extent is that people

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<v Speaker 1>having fun?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what extent do they actually believe two

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<v Speaker 6>women are equipped with male genitalia?

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<v Speaker 1>I know a couple and it seems to be one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent, but it's kind of hard to tell. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the Flat Earth people. You can't tell if they're

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<v Speaker 1>just enjoying themselves or what. This is happening outside a

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<v Speaker 1>courthouse right now and happened yesterday. So that's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that was leading the Columbia building takeovers and protests and

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<v Speaker 1>everything like that in favor of the Palestinians. To put

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<v Speaker 1>it as charitably as possible, he is an agent of

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<v Speaker 1>hamas trying to disrupt our country to put it more

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<v Speaker 1>in line with I guess what our Justice Department thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm fascinated by this story. I love free speech stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a I can never get tired of the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>of what's free speech, what isn't drawn lines, various cases

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<v Speaker 1>not alled, or stuff of that sort of thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's in jail and gonna get deported. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're trying to deport him. And can I go

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<v Speaker 1>on a college campus or anywhere in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and say anything I want about various political movements? Or

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<v Speaker 1>can I or you advocating for a terrorist group? That's

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<v Speaker 1>where they draw the line. Bill and Illusion of Fox

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted this out yesterday. I thought it was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Politicians keep getting this wrong. It doesn't matter if Khalil

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<v Speaker 1>that's his name, hasn't been charged with a crime. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not required under section two thirty seven of the statute.

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<v Speaker 1>Rubio is using the Secretary of State for detaining this

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<v Speaker 1>guy and kicking him out of the country. There is

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<v Speaker 1>prior president that is rarely mentioned. In nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>when Bill Clinton was president in the matter of Ruez Messai.

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<v Speaker 1>The court sided with then US Secretary of State Warren Christopher,

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat, and his powers to deport a Mexican national

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<v Speaker 1>under the very same provision, though it is very extremely

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<v Speaker 1>rarely used. Khalil has not been disappeared. You can look

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<v Speaker 1>him up, find out exactly where he is. All this

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<v Speaker 1>will be in public and out in the open, but

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<v Speaker 1>it has happened before.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the particulars of the Mexican national that

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<v Speaker 1>got kicked out by the Clinton administration, but Mallusians saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same argument.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the administration is not claiming that he's broken in

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<v Speaker 6>any laws. Caroline Levitt, the White House Press secretary, said

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<v Speaker 6>Khalil quote sided with terrorists, organized group protests that disrupted

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<v Speaker 6>college campus classes and harassed Jewish American students and made

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<v Speaker 6>them feel unsafe, and that the law that she was

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<v Speaker 6>citing requires the Secretary of State to have quote reasonable

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<v Speaker 6>ground to believe the person's presence or activities in the

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<v Speaker 6>United States would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 1>Consequences for the United States.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm quoting now from fire dot org, the Foundation

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<v Speaker 6>for Individual Rights and expression, which is like a sane ACLU,

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<v Speaker 6>And I support them heavily, and I'm a bit of

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<v Speaker 6>a free speech extremists myself, so I like it even

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<v Speaker 6>when I disagree with them, that they're kind of in

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<v Speaker 6>the great tug of war trying to tug US toward

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<v Speaker 6>free speech, not away from it. Having said that, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>surprised the Administration made this the big first case of this,

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<v Speaker 6>because there are plenty of people who have been openly

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<v Speaker 6>violent and smashed stuff and broken stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But is it the difference being a US citizen or not?

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<v Speaker 1>If if he was a US citizen born here, he

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<v Speaker 1>could say all this stuff and he'd be in the clear.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh yeah, well yeah, it's that's a hell of a

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<v Speaker 6>question to ask. With three seconds left in the segment,

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<v Speaker 6>it's the matter with

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<v Speaker 10>You is Armstrong and Getty