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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Show, Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty Tim

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Speaker 2: what could be a.

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Speaker 3: Significant step towards peace Ukraine agreeing to President Trump's proposal

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Speaker 3: for a thirty day seaspire, with the President turning the

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Speaker 3: spotlight on Russia, announcing he will speak to President Putin.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully President Putin will agree to that also, and we could.

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Speaker 1: Get this show on the road.

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Speaker 3: Secretary of State Rubio leading the talks in Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 3: also saying Russia must make the next move.

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Speaker 5: Balls now in their court. As they say no, then, well,

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Speaker 5: unfortunately know what the impediment is to piece here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm hoping, as Keirs Simmons reporting on NBC,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping we're a out to see the squeeze on Putin. Hey,

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Speaker 1: they had to get everything lined up, Squeezings and Lensky

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Speaker 1: to agree to the deal. Deals in place, As Rubio said,

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State, balls in Putin's court now, and I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping maybe you start putting pressure on Putin or saying

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Speaker 1: some bad things about him if he doesn't go along.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's an interesting strategy if indeed it is a

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Speaker 6: you know, a coherent strategy, and I don't know that

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Speaker 6: it's not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it is.

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Speaker 6: Um no, and Putin is so completely, almost ridiculously unreliable

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Speaker 1: So here's Richard Engel of NBC with a little analysis

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Speaker 4: So it has been a very trying time, fast moving events,

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Speaker 4: especially when people here know that their country is on

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Speaker 4: redrawn at this moment, and it is happening so quickly.

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Speaker 4: But today, today, at this very moment, I think they

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Speaker 4: feel quite satisfied with the end of this diplomatic process

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Speaker 4: because they want this. They want a piece, they say

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Speaker 4: that they want, however, a lasting piece, and if a

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Speaker 4: ceasefire can bring those negotiations, they certainly welcome it. And

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Speaker 4: if it can expose Vladimir Putin as someone who doesn't

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Speaker 4: want an agreement, all the better for Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting. And Richard Ingle wouldn't say that Ukraine's

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Speaker 1: pretty happy with this if they weren't, right, I want

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Speaker 1: I was accused of spouting MSNBC talking points on the

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Speaker 7: It's a win for Ukraine and it gives them a

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Speaker 7: chance now to flip the narrative that the ball is

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Speaker 7: the bad guy, you know, Putin has to decide.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I miss read it. I said earlier this

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Speaker 1: if he agrees to a cease fire. It's the same

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Speaker 1: reason Hamas agreed to various ceasefires, so they could you know,

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Speaker 6: Ship in some more North Koreans to get mowed down

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Speaker 1: And I was accused of spouting MSNBC talking points there,

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Speaker 1: But that's not an argument. Well yeah, but it's interesting

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Speaker 1: that Richard Engel and the CNN reporter both say Ukraine's

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Speaker 1: happy about this. It's a win for Ukraine to get this, Okay. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Here's our friend Josh Rogan of the Washington Post on

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Speaker 8: I think what Zelenski achieved here was that he put

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Speaker 8: the spotlight back on the Russians to show that if

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Speaker 8: there's no ceasefire, it's Putin's fault, not Zelensky's fault. The

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Speaker 8: he blames Elenskin. He punished the Ukrainians. Now it's on Putin.

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Speaker 6: I don't know with Trump how much is strategy and

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Speaker 6: But the recent experience with Doug Ford up in Canada,

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Speaker 6: say no that is the strategy. It's the Madman theory,

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Speaker 1: Then he goes in and crafts the deal he wants

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Speaker 6: Get early alerts of a haack, drone attacks and missile

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Speaker 6: Why to force force them to the table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, this I found very very interesting and sort

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Speaker 1: talking about Russia's economy and how bad it is.

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Speaker 5: That war is devastating Russia. They've raised interest rates to

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Speaker 5: True inflation is by forty percent or something like that.

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Speaker 5: moscows by thirty forty percent. Enterprises right now, a third

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Speaker 1: Been hearing that for a while though, since the beginning

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Speaker 1: Some of our friends continue to buy stuff from Russia.

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Speaker 6: I've read equally learned commentators say that indeed, yeah, Russia

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Speaker 1: But I mean, if mortgage a mortgages are.

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Speaker 6: Thirty forty percent, and that's an economy that's in terrible shape.

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Speaker 1: If inflation's anywhere close to forty percent, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it is a country run by Olive Arts,

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Speaker 1: are they going to continue that? Yeah? Yeah, and I

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Speaker 6: So this is a quick aside for the golfers in

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Speaker 1: I had a conversation the other day.

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Speaker 6: feeling each other out. I looks kind of rough today.

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Speaker 6: what that forecast? The other guy right back? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: And I had a conversation with a buddy of mine

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Speaker 6: that it's exactly like when somebody wants to stage a coup,

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Speaker 6: like if you want to get rid of Putin. There's

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Speaker 6: a lot of boy Putin's some interesting moves lately, you know,

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Speaker 6: And then you're waiting for somebody to say, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Then you know, I think give you a slightly different look.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so what do you Then you turn to the

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Speaker 6: other guy, But what do you think of the job

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Speaker 6: our beloved leaders doing it?

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Speaker 1: I got some questions. You're just looking for hints.

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Speaker 6: That somebody's with you, except deciding whether to play golf

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Speaker 1: Well, and he had that weekend where it looked like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, was he not the absolute classic example of if

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Speaker 1: Guys wiley as him think he was ever gonna survive?

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Speaker 1: That he thought he had cards to play? Wow? Misread

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Speaker 6: A totalitarian megalomaniac who has zero interest in quote unquote

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Speaker 6: protecting Christianity no matter what your favorite lack adoodal right

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Speaker 1: So this hour, a state farm executive state farm Insurance

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Speaker 1: It was a trap saying some really bad things, and

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Speaker 1: And the secret recording is a warning to those of

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Speaker 1: On the way. Stay here.

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Speaker 9: The Museum of Failure houses some of the world's greatest flops.

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Speaker 9: Visitors can see attractions such as crystal Pepsi, carrot cake Oreos,

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Speaker 9: and of course that Don Lemon exhibits.

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Speaker 6: This tone of voice. Made that joke I read about

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Speaker 6: the Museum of Failure. It's actually a cool idea. There's

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Speaker 6: a huge legal dispute going on right now, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: It's kind of a cool idea.

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Speaker 1: So coming up, we're gonna talk about this audio that

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Speaker 1: I heard such an interesting podcast the other day. I

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Speaker 1: dating is for a variety of reasons, and statistics were amazing.

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Speaker 1: And that's because that pool is so small. Yeah, in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this secretly recorded state farm agent because of a

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Speaker 1: Are can never be houses where like people want to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, people want to live in beautiful places. It's not

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Speaker 1: Because so you've got a really expensive place and you

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Speaker 6: now is our opportunity MOA. Instead of leafy streets and

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Speaker 6: we're not building apartments there, it's our business office. But anyway,

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Speaker 6: so yeah, the richer suburbs have all sorts of ways

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Speaker 6: to get around the regulations. And that's an interesting topic.

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Speaker 6: But in reading this story, Jack and anybody interested in

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Speaker 6: journalism or fan of the Wall Street journalism I've been

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Speaker 6: for many, many years, This dude, Conrad puts.

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Speaker 1: Your who writes this story?

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Speaker 6: It is as if it's in well, the La Times

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Speaker 6: or the USA Today or the Super Liberal before Jeff

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Speaker 6: Bezos threatened to spank people, Washington Post, the You know,

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Speaker 6: I can read you some some specific sentences. It's about,

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Speaker 6: you know, the very topic I was describing. Now, California

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Speaker 6: faces a choice. Will it build the housing it badly

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Speaker 6: needs or will it accept economic stagnation for the price

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Speaker 6: of leafy neighborhoods and single family homes.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's in the news story. Uh, yes, this is

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Speaker 1: a news story.

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Speaker 6: Here California's housing shortage is at the root of its

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Speaker 6: economic problems. Residents are leaving for other states at a

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Speaker 6: rapid clip. Economic expansion lags behind states like Texas and Florida.

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Speaker 6: And then they go into some other stats about how

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Speaker 6: terrible the economy is in California, inflation driven in large

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Speaker 6: part by housing costs, is eating intrenderous living standards, and

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Speaker 6: attributes it all. Not a single word in the Wall

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Speaker 6: Street Journal about California ranks fiftieth for business climate year

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Speaker 6: after year after year. Do you think that's having an

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Speaker 6: effect on the economy? But no, they say, no, it's

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Speaker 6: all about housing costs. And they mentioned state and local

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Speaker 6: red tape, but they never mentioned the fringe environmental lobby

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Speaker 6: that also won't let building happen, and any expansion of

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Speaker 6: the footprint of a city. They want it all to

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Speaker 6: be high rise, affordable housing right next to public transit.

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Speaker 6: But the Wall Street blank and doesn't even touch on that. Man,

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Speaker 6: that's crazy. Is it just because if you want to

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Speaker 6: hire young journalists or a place that people have retired

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Speaker 6: or moved on or whatever, it's impossible to find somebody

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Speaker 6: who's not completely woke.

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Speaker 1: Well, how about presenting it like as a pejorative that

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Speaker 1: you want to live on a quiet, leafy street.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody should live in apartment complexes. Now, I don't

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Speaker 6: mean to be like the cold warrior, which I am,

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Speaker 6: but I've been to former communist countries and they believe

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Speaker 6: firmly and everybody ought to live in a crappy apartment

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Speaker 6: and the architecture and their lives were miserable. And you know,

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Speaker 6: our lefties want to do that. Final note from LA

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Speaker 6: and the wildfires and the politics around the rebuilding. According

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Speaker 6: to the Los Angeles Times, Karen Bass the union hack, utterly, dishonest,

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Speaker 6: selfish soul mayor who anybody who's been following California politics

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Speaker 6: for a long time knows exactly what she is. She

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Speaker 6: is deleting her text messages, thus defeating efforts by media

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Speaker 6: organizations to obtain them as government communications subject.

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Speaker 1: To public records requests.

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Speaker 6: According to the LA Times, The Times reported had been

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Speaker 6: unable to obtain her text messages concerning her over and

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Speaker 6: sees trip to Ghana because they were automatically deleted and

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Speaker 6: the city had not retained them in spite of laws

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Speaker 6: to the contrary. The Time suggests that best is violating

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Speaker 6: both state law and the city's own administrative code.

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Speaker 1: Her phone is set to erase text messages. Nice.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the fact that LA rejected a thoroughly moderate, reasonable

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Speaker 6: quote unquote Democrat in favor of this union hack is

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Speaker 6: it's just a measure of the depth of the just

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Speaker 6: utter dysfunction of LA politics, California politics.

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Speaker 1: End of screed. Last night, I had one of those

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Speaker 1: deals that happens when your kids get to a certain

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Speaker 1: edge where I had to run Henry to his boy

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Speaker 1: Scout meeting, drop him off a little early and let

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Speaker 1: him cool his heels while I ran to his brother's

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Speaker 1: band concert and caught most of that before I left

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Speaker 1: early to get back to pick up the other kid

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Speaker 1: from the boy Scout meeting. But the band concert was

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Speaker 1: really pretty good. You told me that when they get

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Speaker 1: older it actually starts to become you know, like decent

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Speaker 1: music whatever. And at the high school level, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Actually.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a sliding scale, a continuum, a spectrum, if

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Speaker 6: you will, between sacrificing for my child and being entertained

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Speaker 6: and by the time they're like, you know, getting on

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Speaker 6: in high school or even college. Oh no, it's one

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Speaker 6: hundred percent entertainment's just great music. But here's the main

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Speaker 6: reason I brought it up is they had to There

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Speaker 6: was a dress code. They had to dress up a

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Speaker 6: little bit to play at this little amphitheater thing, and

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Speaker 6: you had to wear a tie, either a bow tie

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Speaker 6: or a regular straight tie.

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever even mentioned a bow tie when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid. I mean, you'd have been the weirdest, dorkiest

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Speaker 1: dork of all time if you were a bow tie

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Speaker 1: when I was younger. But now probably twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: the dudes had bow ties on, including my son who

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Speaker 1: wanted to wear a bow tie. So has a bowtie

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Speaker 1: made it come back? Apparently clearly? Yeah, Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: better tie. I was looking at it helping him put

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Speaker 1: it on, much easier to put on, I mean, not

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Speaker 1: a real you tie it tie bow tie, but like

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Speaker 1: a clip on bow tie is way better than a

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Speaker 1: clip on tie tie. And uh, it's just it's a

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Speaker 1: cool look and it makes and the tie is I

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Speaker 1: don't know what is a tie?

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Speaker 6: What is Well, you're clearly an anti tiest. I am

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Speaker 6: agnostic on the question. I think they're both fine. I'm

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Speaker 6: in the even a fan of the bolo Although it's

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Speaker 6: a stretch to call it a tie, It's an adornment.

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Speaker 1: I went to a through a bolo face for a while.

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Speaker 1: I liked the bolo tie. But yeah, my son looked

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Speaker 1: really good in the I got it at Target. I

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Speaker 1: bought it may Target to bow tie. So I guess

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Speaker 1: it's not the fanciest thing in the world. So why

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Speaker 1: did you abandon the bolo tie? Look?

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Speaker 6: Because you are proudly a Middle American? You know, quote

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Speaker 6: unquote hick m. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't do it with the soup jacket, although a

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Speaker 1: lot of people do. Huh. I like it. It work anyway.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't know that, the bow tie has definitely

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Speaker 1: made a comeback. So show up to your next secretly

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Speaker 1: recording Tinder date in a bow tie and see how

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Speaker 1: it works for you. More on the way, stay here.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I take in news from a lot

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Speaker 1: of different sources. That's kind of what we do for

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Speaker 1: a living. But so I taken stuff from MSNBC and

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Speaker 1: USA Today, and boy, we just got this text about

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. Hey, I love the show. Other

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Speaker 1: than the editorial page, the Wall Street Journal has become

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Speaker 1: a left center rag. I've subscribed for over a decade,

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Speaker 1: but I'm considering canceling. That's interesting that a number of

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Speaker 1: people have pointed that out recently. Yeah, that's interesting. I

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Speaker 1: don't find the editor real board left well they said

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Speaker 1: notes with that person, oh other than I'm sorry, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: but uh but the reason I brought this up is

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Speaker 1: a bouncing around Maga Twitter. I've noticed that the whole

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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama and mccrone's wife have wedding tackle theme is

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Speaker 1: a regular story. Goodness. Oh so that's just for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: it's an ongoing thing. To what extent is that people

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Speaker 1: having fun?

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Speaker 6: I don't know what extent do they actually believe two

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Speaker 6: women are equipped with male genitalia?

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Speaker 1: I know a couple and it seems to be one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent, but it's kind of hard to tell. It's

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Speaker 1: like the Flat Earth people. You can't tell if they're

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Speaker 1: just enjoying themselves or what. This is happening outside a

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Speaker 1: courthouse right now and happened yesterday. So that's the guy

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Speaker 1: that was leading the Columbia building takeovers and protests and

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Speaker 1: everything like that in favor of the Palestinians. To put

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Speaker 1: it as charitably as possible, he is an agent of

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Speaker 1: hamas trying to disrupt our country to put it more

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Speaker 1: in line with I guess what our Justice Department thinks.

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Speaker 1: But I'm fascinated by this story. I love free speech stuff.

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Speaker 1: There's a I can never get tired of the conversation

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Speaker 1: of what's free speech, what isn't drawn lines, various cases

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Speaker 1: not alled, or stuff of that sort of thing. And

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Speaker 1: you know he's in jail and gonna get deported. Is

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Speaker 1: that what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to deport him. And can I go

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Speaker 1: on a college campus or anywhere in the United States

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Speaker 1: and say anything I want about various political movements? Or

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Speaker 1: can I or you advocating for a terrorist group? That's

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Speaker 1: where they draw the line. Bill and Illusion of Fox

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Speaker 1: tweeted this out yesterday. I thought it was pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: Politicians keep getting this wrong. It doesn't matter if Khalil

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Speaker 1: that's his name, hasn't been charged with a crime. It's

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Speaker 1: not required under section two thirty seven of the statute.

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Speaker 1: Rubio is using the Secretary of State for detaining this

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Speaker 1: guy and kicking him out of the country. There is

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Speaker 1: prior president that is rarely mentioned. In nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 1: when Bill Clinton was president in the matter of Ruez Messai.

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Speaker 1: The court sided with then US Secretary of State Warren Christopher,

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Speaker 1: a Democrat, and his powers to deport a Mexican national

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Speaker 1: under the very same provision, though it is very extremely

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Speaker 1: rarely used. Khalil has not been disappeared. You can look

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Speaker 1: him up, find out exactly where he is. All this

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Speaker 1: will be in public and out in the open, but

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Speaker 1: it has happened before.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the particulars of the Mexican national that

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Speaker 1: got kicked out by the Clinton administration, but Mallusians saying

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Speaker 1: it's the same argument.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the administration is not claiming that he's broken in

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Speaker 6: any laws. Caroline Levitt, the White House Press secretary, said

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Speaker 6: Khalil quote sided with terrorists, organized group protests that disrupted

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Speaker 6: college campus classes and harassed Jewish American students and made

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Speaker 6: them feel unsafe, and that the law that she was

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Speaker 6: citing requires the Secretary of State to have quote reasonable

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Speaker 6: ground to believe the person's presence or activities in the

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Speaker 6: United States would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy.

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Speaker 1: Consequences for the United States.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm quoting now from fire dot org, the Foundation

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Speaker 6: for Individual Rights and expression, which is like a sane ACLU,

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Speaker 6: And I support them heavily, and I'm a bit of

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Speaker 6: a free speech extremists myself, so I like it even

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Speaker 6: when I disagree with them, that they're kind of in

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Speaker 6: the great tug of war trying to tug US toward

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Speaker 6: free speech, not away from it. Having said that, I'm

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Speaker 6: surprised the Administration made this the big first case of this,

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Speaker 6: because there are plenty of people who have been openly

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Speaker 6: violent and smashed stuff and broken stuff.

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Speaker 1: But is it the difference being a US citizen or not?

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Speaker 1: If if he was a US citizen born here, he

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Speaker 1: could say all this stuff and he'd be in the clear.

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, well yeah, it's that's a hell of a

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Speaker 6: question to ask. With three seconds left in the segment,

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Speaker 6: it's the matter with

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Speaker 10: You is Armstrong and Getty