WEBVTT - Grant Show 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.360 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.440 And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.880 Well, you guys, I. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.120 Know it's weird, exactly what we were hoping for. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:23.320 We really opened it. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:25.680 It really is. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.680 We are here on Still the Place with our friend 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:29.720 Grant show. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.199 We've been talking about you, by the way, well. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.880 Sorry in a good way. 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:38.960 We were so excited to have you on as our 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:43.839 first guest for the podcast. Your character was the bridge 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.479 to launch Melrose Place, bridging from nine two to oh, 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.520 and it just made perfect sense that we to talk 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.239 to you first, and we were so excited to so. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.000 Grant, I don't even know on the nine O two 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.800 one oh show, were you a regular there? 0:00:58.840 --> 0:00:59.920 Did you come in at the end of it? 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.600 No, they cast me from Melow's Place, and then knowing 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.520 that they were going to put that character on nine 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:09.199 on two to zero sort of to springboard Melrose Place. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.160 It wasn't the spin off, It wasn't you know, any 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.800 of that kind of thing. It was like they knew 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.480 this all going in. And then I did three episodes 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.000 of nine two and oh and you played Jake. 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.280 Yeah, but what was your how did you get tied 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:21.080 up with the high school. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:26.000 I was like building a gazebo for Kelly's family in 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:31.600 her backyard building and then what would now be illegal and. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:39.240 We're going to be talking about that is the age. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.240 Yes, we don't blame you for that. 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:43.000 Personally. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.520 Well, I think we only kissed, but still, you know, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:46.319 not good. 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.120 No, we were saying that when we were watching the 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.720 pilot and I thought it had been so long, and 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.600 I thought, as you guys are coming to kiss, I thought, well, 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.680 surely he's going to say, oh, I couldn't possibly are 0:01:55.720 --> 0:02:00.240 too young? And then you're kissing him, Like, oh my god, Yeah. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:00.600 We all hot? 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.520 Is it that we are more sort of and maybe 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.360 rightly so? I don't want to put a judgment more 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.720 to the other on it, but like more prudish now 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.600 than thirty years ago. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.200 Yeah, you know, we definitely we thought weird. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.200 I mean my whole body was just like, oh god, 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.240 this is so not right because we're here in twenty 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.560 twenty four. And then we talked to Jenny Garth because 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.080 we did their podcast, and we asked, how did you 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.920 feel doing that? Did it feel like he was too 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:26.320 old for you? 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.880 She's like, no, well we weren't We were relatively contemporaries. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.480 I mean were we were actually both adults, So. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.240 She was over eighteen and then she was just eighteen 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.079 and she said, didn't she you know, so just eighteen? 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.800 That's not that crazy and real life, but it's not. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.160 It's the high school thing. Like I was watching the 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.160 scene in the second episode when you're being so sweet 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.760 at the door. You weren't a physical mismatch like you 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:57.640 guys were a gorgeous couple. It's the high school thing 0:02:58.840 --> 0:02:59.840 that's the thing that's hard. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.200 To get it right. Like she he was I don't know, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:06.000 twenty five, and she was seventeen or sixteen, I don't know. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:07.560 Any getting younger every time. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.120 Well, now you think put it in those terms, it's 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:11.960 like it that's creepy. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.120 So were you at ten or twenty years? That's what 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.480 everything is now? Like the husband's sixty and the wife's 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:18.840 thirty eight or something. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.640 And were you aware of the weirdness, like we asked 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.560 you to watch the episode before coming here and that 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:27.880 did it bring that back? 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:29.000 Or like has that all? 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.080 Has that beened something in her mind about. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.440 That at all? Really, because she was a grown up, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.240 ptent professional actress, I didn't really think much of it 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.360 at the time we were shooting. When I watched it, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:39.400 I was like, oh, yeah. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.360 Yeah, well that's what we're finding is like watching the 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.560 episodes now, so many of the things we can't even remember. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.960 But also just it just straight it just hits different now. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.160 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, and also like this was 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.680 the first year, it was different than what the show became. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.280 I think I liked it. I liked the lot of 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.280 what happened in that episode was kind of corny and 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.000 a little hokey in places, but for the most part, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:08.920 I thought it was a really solid episode. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.120 Yeah, that's what we're saying. It was really sweet. So 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.760 what was your auditioning process, Like, do you remember it? 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.440 Yeah? I know. I think that they had seen like 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:22.000 like literally thousands of guys, and I remember I don't 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.600 remember my auditions. I think it was kind of normal. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.080 You know, you go and do you do your initial 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.680 and then you do another one for you know whoever 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.080 that next level level is, and then the one for 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.719 the producers, and then then then your screen test. I 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.080 think that was relatively normal. But I do remember while 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.880 I was doing that, I'm auditioning for other things all 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.919 over town, and they were holding auditions for Jake. Almost 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.600 everywhere I went. It was like, there's more auditions for Jake. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:52.080 There's more, Yeah, they really it was a wide like. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.039 Where would it be if it wasn't at the studio? 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.800 You know. I just remember like being at other places 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.120 being thinking this is odd that there were auditions. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.919 And then do you remember the meeting is Jake that 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:01.560 he was Jake? 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.560 Do you remember meeting Aaron and what that was like? 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.360 Was it his office? Probably? 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:11.680 You know, I didn't meet like like I know Andrew did. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.440 I don't know if you guys did. I did not 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.599 meet him like that. He was in the screen test 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.159 room with everyone else like him. I'm sure I shook 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.280 his hand, but I don't remember. It wasn't like I 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.200 didn't go to his office until I was on the 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:28.039 show really unless the screen test was there. It was 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.719 so long ago. Do you remember that couch? 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:31.719 Yeah? 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.280 That went on forever and then turned the corner. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:35.960 The world's most giant sectional couch. 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.560 Yeah, well yeah, in the cigar the cigar it was. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:39.719 An orange couch, wasn't it? 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.520 Was it orange or like brick red? 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.599 It was in that it was this weird like early sixties, 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.440 late fifties color classic. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.600 Wow, and did you so? 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.680 You said you were auditioning for a bunch of other stuff, 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.880 like did you did you? Was this the role you wanted? 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.160 Were you like there. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.680 Was another job? I don't know. I don't remember if 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.160 I actually had an option to take it or not, 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.640 but there was a medical show that either they were 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:14.920 about to get into the screen test negotiation for or 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.320 it was like I kind of had to make a 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.520 choice between the two. It was an obvious choice. It 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.160 was not going to do some unknown, untested medical show. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.240 When this show we knew was it Partners? 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:26.880 Does that sound familiar? 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:27.640 That sure does? 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:28.640 Wow? 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.240 Okay, because my audition story bringing it back to me 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:38.000 finally was that that I didn't I auditioned, audition, didn't 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.680 get it, and then they said we're going to put 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.120 you on something, And they gave me the script for 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:42.560 Milor's place, a stack of scripts. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:43.719 You didn't get Partners? 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.320 You were that you were like, they were like, we 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.160 want him for both, so you win this story. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.760 I don't know. I don't know that they wanted me 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.479 because it's too long ago in my brain, but it 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:55.560 was like it was in there. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.360 It wasn't back and back did you know that week 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.479 when you're back and back and back for that show. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.040 I wonder, I wonder if we did cross paths and 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.800 we just don't remember you were having the same sort of. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:12.680 Ye drama escalating Grant. I'm wondering if you felt this 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.720 part of Jake. And I don't know how much they 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.840 had you read or there was to read, but if 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.320 you felt like a similarity to you, is that why 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.080 you resonated, you think, or. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.640 Or just it is probably why I got the job 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.119 because I was an angry young man and so was Jake, 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.920 and you know, I mean I think it just I 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.280 don't know that I was aware of that, or maybe 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.280 it would have been so angry and your abs. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.000 I think you were cast for your abs on. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.640 The motorc Well, I've been riding motorcycles since I was 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.800 like ten, Okay, so I don't believe I owned one 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:44.800 at the time I got the show. But as soon 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:45.720 as I got the show. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.200 I couldn't afford it. So then you got the show, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:48.080 then you bought a hand. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.000 I mean immediately, it is the first thing I did. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:51.840 I let you drive it to work. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:56.000 Yeah. They never said a word to me about it. Wow, 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.920 they never did. I was kind of surprised, But that's 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.160 amazing because I would have been like, you know, f off, 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:05.239 but you know I'm going to ride my bike. Wow, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.200 because you had one too, I did. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.040 I got one much later after I rode with you 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:09.480 on yours. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.720 I told the story last time of the Then I 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.840 wanted my own, no offense, but I got those sports stores. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.560 I just got rid of my bike that I bought that. Yeah, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.440 well not just maybe three or four years ago, I 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.040 guess long as my daughter's ten. The first time I 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:28.560 got on it after my daughter was born, I was done. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:29.840 Yeah. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.640 I wasn't scared. It wasn't like I was afraid of 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.480 getting injured. And none of those thoughts came in my head. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.199 It just was like, this isn't fun anymore. 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.640 Yeah, yeah, I get's interesting. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.480 It wasn't even that clear. It just was this is 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:46.319 no longer. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.240 Fun, yea, yeah, everything changes. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:49.800 Yeah. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.520 So when you were when you did the part on 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.520 nine or two and O did you three episodes on 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.800 nine two and oh? How did that feel going on 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:57.400 to that set? What was that set? 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:57.560 Like? 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:59.760 You know, I never watched that show. I just knew 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.680 how big the hype was. And Luke like we both 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.880 our first jobs were across the hall from each other 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.600 in New York. So I'd known Luke for a very 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.280 long time. We dated the same woman. Oh not at 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.480 the same time, almost at the same time. So like 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.440 I'd known him for a long time. So that was 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.680 he was welcoming, and that was made things a little easier, 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.280 you know. But you're also like thirty and cocky and 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.040 you know, think you have like so I wasn't intimidated. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:31.679 I was like, I probably thought I was overqualified. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:32.080 Like they have me. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.480 Well, it was it was clear that you were older, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:35.880 yeah too and. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:37.960 Staid like that. Yeah, maybe not feel like a little 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.160 bit more some of the older castmates. I mean, wasn't 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.360 Iron in his late twenties been? 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.839 Yeah, I was thirty, so old was Luke wasn't? 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:45.480 Aren't you guys? 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.920 I think he? I think they were all like four 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.520 or five years show. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.480 Okay, And so you mentioned you had been on a show, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.520 you'd been working in New York and so where like 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.680 where were you? Like, where was your career? 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.840 I went so late to study theater arts because they 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.959 didn't have any idea what to do. I was like, well, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.400 they have a theater arts program. At it's UCLA. It's 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.319 in LA and you know that's where they make movies. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.679 So I went there and in my last quarter I 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.480 was auditioning just to get practice, and I got a 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.000 soap opera in New York. I thought it was like 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.000 three months because I had such a crap agent he 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.640 misinformed me. I went there, started the three months and 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:22.960 they were like, you know, you know, you're here for 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:28.480 three years. So I finished out that contract, went to London, 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:32.160 study for a year, came back from London, started doing 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.800 theater out of New York. And then occasionally I would 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.719 go out. I'd get a job in LA. I like 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.120 a small job. I'd go out in LA and do 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:39.760 that job. Then I come back to New York and 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.240 spend all my money because it's so expensive there. Eventually, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.240 like nineteen ninety, I think, so this is the first 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.880 job was in eighty two, I believe. And then in 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.920 nineteen ninety I moved to LA and that's when all 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.760 like it's like wow, there's all these pilots, which weren't 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.280 all casting in New York. So it was like, you know, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.960 two years of constantly, you know, either auditioning or getting 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.720 a pilot. That doesn't go. I think I did. I 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:04.520 think I got a pilot each year that didn't go. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.160 And then finally, so you're really like New York and 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.000 London trained Lambda Lamba right, yeah, so. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.120 New York And did you do a lot of theater 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:14.600 in New York? 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.040 I did? I got I did thea that cast out 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.800 of New York and then went outside, like I did 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:25.480 some theater in North Carolina, North Carolina and Cleveland and 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:30.040 you know, anyway, just around. I did one show. I 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.200 did one Broadway show that I understand on and I 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:33.959 was the only understudy that didn't get to go on. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.920 I understudied Matt Dylan in a play about Vietnam called 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:41.400 The Boys of Winter. Oh okay, Don Moffett and oh 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.160 yeah sounds righting Raims. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.720 Wow, Matt Dylan, Would you want to do that now 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:48.880 or do you want to go back into theater. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.719 I'd love to And you did do some Yeah, I've 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.240 gone back back and forth, and it was crazy. It 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.520 was twenty years ago the last time I did professional theater. 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.200 I was like shocked when I went to re up 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:04.120 my equity membership, like, oh my god, yeah, it's just 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.440 I'd love to. It's just it's like I'm living in 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.040 Atlanta right now, and it's. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.040 Hard, it's impractical. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.160 Yeah, a ten year old and my wife is on 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.000 a show, and yeah, you know so I'm interested. Yeah, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.240 and I'm pushing in that direction. I don't see that. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.480 I don't see the path yet for it. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.040 You can't really make plans in this business, can you. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:26.240 Everything just changes. 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.480 Well, even talking about pilot season. There used to be 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.240 a pilot season like that's gone. That used to make sense. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.880 I was talking to a friend of mine whose son's 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.880 an actor. Now they did six episodes and they had 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.960 him on hold for eighteen months, like we used to have. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.719 You knew by July if you'd be working the next year. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.439 The rules are all gone now. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.360 It's do they pay him for those? 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:46.719 All those? 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.120 He did not pay him for those. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.840 In our last contract. Yeah, well I did, because you 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.120 know that you do now nowadays they're doing like a 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.600 streamer show. You could do eighty's and even if you 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.960 do eight for four years, they want to hold you. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:03.959 And that when eight episodes takes what three and a 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.880 half four months? Yeah, then you want to hold. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.360 You for the twelve You cannot. I can't make a 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:09.160 living in that anymore. 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.600 Things were different back then. Another that's a major. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.040 Well, well, that's one of the things we're talking about. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.880 When when we did the first episode, was doing thirty 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:21.240 two episodes a year. That's so insane. Now we're so lucky, 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.040 as hard as it was, like, we're so lucky we 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.080 did that and made that money because now it's even 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:28.760 if you're a regular in a series, it can be 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.840 hard to make a living, which is crazy, but we 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.320 really lucked out in the timing. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.679 I can't believe crazy. I did five years on the 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.240 remake of Dynasty. We just wrapped. Yeah, two years ago 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.080 we did twenty two and that that's a lot, truly. Yeah, yes, 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.840 so thirty two. I'm amazed we were that much younger. 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.000 We had energy, Yeah, yeah, because we and the cast 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.439 got bigger and bigger and bigger. Remember like one year, 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.880 I think we had fourteen regular cast members. So then 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:57.400 you got some some space. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.920 So what is your recollection like when you first started Melrose, Like, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.520 do you remember like meeting the rest of the cast 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:05.960 and what was your take and what do you what 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:06.160 do you. 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.520 Remember when we all went to the soundstage for the 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.360 first time and we saw that they had dug a 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.320 swimming pool into the stage and we were all like, Okay, 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:15.319 we're gonna be here for him. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:15.719 Pretty cool. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.760 Well, we were sold for thirteen. I remember when we 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.680 shot the credits. Yes, I remember meeting everybody on Melrose 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:24.520 at Johnny Rocketts. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:28.120 You remember, no o. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.240 You remember that to tell us all about So. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.160 We were standing on the corner right in front of 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:34.320 Johnny Rockets. 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.600 Do we think he was like his character? 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.440 Some guy pulls up on his motor right on the corner. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.920 Some guy pulls up on his motorcycle right next to 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.080 the curve, and he starts reving his engine, and you 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.320 guys all started kind of laughing. And I looked over 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.240 and I went, I went, hey, they're laughing at you, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:56.120 not with you. Remember anyway, what they're laughing at you? 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:56.840 Not with you? 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:57.800 So you picked a fight? 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:02.000 Yeah, he jumped office fight. He gets in my face. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.320 I'm look, I'm working right now, and see all those 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.920 guys over there. All those guys are with me. So 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.440 you might want to wait till we've done work in 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.240 and then you can finish this. He goes and he 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.480 sits down at Giant Rockets and he waits. He starts waiting, 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.640 and then I find out that it is the son 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.680 of this actor who is like one of the most 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:25.720 like cool, macho like dudes, Steve McQueen, Steve mcca. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:31.600 Okay, but wait a second, he's stuck around fight. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.680 No, no, I find out that Steve McQueen's son. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.480 How did you find that part out? 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.800 I don't know. Somebody told me, and I'm like, I'm 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.160 not gonna fight with Steve McQueen's you had the back, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.560 I'm not going to do it. It's like, I'm not 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.000 He's like one of my biggest heroes ever. So I 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:50.600 went over and I told him, I said, listen, I'm 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.480 not going to fight you. You might as well just 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:53.560 go home. It's not going to happen. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:54.800 Did you apologize? 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:01.440 We would, you know, Chad McQueen is who it was. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.040 Years later we had run into each other and you know, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.160 we we made you know, we hugged it out and nice. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.840 That's an amazing Hollywood story, just like shooting on the side. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.520 On Melrose Avenue. You guys were shooting. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.160 Right, yeah, and that you almost got a fight with 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.000 Steve McQueen's son, who's just hanging out on motorcycle and 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.280 you're shooting your TV show. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.640 Nobody really were. It was one of those things where 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.480 people were filming us, so they were like, who are 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:29.760 you were on the show, and then they would take 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.240 pictures with us, even and they had had cameras, there 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.000 were no phones. People wanted to take pictures just in case, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.400 just in case. Obviously we were then just in case 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.840 we came. But I remember feeling pretty cool and all walking. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:46.440 Yes, we spent we spent a month doing pre publicity 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.720 for that show. Remember like all that stuff up in 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.600 like Tapanga or wherever it was with that we did 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.040 for that magazine and all those super cool shots that 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:54.480 we did. 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.160 And but that was after it started taking on. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.400 Was it no? No, because because Amy was in that Yeah. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.439 I remember shooting was Entertainment Weekly, Yeah, and that was 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.639 I think I might have that somewhere. I should find that. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.399 I think it was even before the air show this 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:09.080 show aired. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.440 I think so did a lot of Entertainment Weekly. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.520 There was a lot of you're right, they were so 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.440 excited because we were a spin off. There was all 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.800 this buzz and then it's sort of like fizzled until 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.800 Heather came came on. And then that really the Heather 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.679 came on and and Michael. That was funny watching the 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.720 second episode, is that you were so angry and Michael 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:31.440 was so nice. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:38.880 Yeah, and then as you become like the tough guy 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.719 with the heart of gold, and he becomes just like 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:42.840 the bad guy. 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.000 Yeah, it was fun to see where we started. Wasn't 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:45.639 it fun to watch? 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.679 It was? It was really really fun to watch. I 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:48.680 had a lot of big emotions. 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.400 Actually, what were your big emotions? 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.960