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Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.

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Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Well, you guys, I.

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Speaker 2: Know it's weird, exactly what we were hoping for.

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Speaker 4: We really opened it.

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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Speaker 5: We are here on Still the Place with our friend

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Speaker 5: Grant show.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about you, by the way, well.

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Speaker 3: Sorry in a good way.

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Speaker 5: We were so excited to have you on as our

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Speaker 5: first guest for the podcast. Your character was the bridge

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Speaker 5: to launch Melrose Place, bridging from nine two to oh,

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Speaker 5: and it just made perfect sense that we to talk

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Speaker 5: to you first, and we were so excited to so.

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Speaker 2: Grant, I don't even know on the nine O two

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Speaker 2: one oh show, were you a regular there?

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Speaker 4: Did you come in at the end of it?

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Speaker 3: No, they cast me from Melow's Place, and then knowing

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Speaker 3: that they were going to put that character on nine

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Speaker 3: on two to zero sort of to springboard Melrose Place.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the spin off, It wasn't you know, any

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Speaker 3: of that kind of thing. It was like they knew

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Speaker 3: this all going in. And then I did three episodes

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Speaker 3: of nine two and oh and you played Jake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what was your how did you get tied

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Speaker 2: up with the high school.

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Speaker 3: I was like building a gazebo for Kelly's family in

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Speaker 3: her backyard building and then what would now be illegal and.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be talking about that is the age.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we don't blame you for that.

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Speaker 4: Personally.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we only kissed, but still, you know,

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Speaker 3: not good.

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Speaker 1: No, we were saying that when we were watching the

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Speaker 1: pilot and I thought it had been so long, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, as you guys are coming to kiss, I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: surely he's going to say, oh, I couldn't possibly are

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Speaker 1: too young? And then you're kissing him, Like, oh my god, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: We all hot?

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Speaker 3: Is it that we are more sort of and maybe

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Speaker 3: rightly so? I don't want to put a judgment more

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Speaker 3: to the other on it, but like more prudish now

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Speaker 3: than thirty years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we definitely we thought weird.

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Speaker 2: I mean my whole body was just like, oh god,

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Speaker 2: this is so not right because we're here in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. And then we talked to Jenny Garth because

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Speaker 2: we did their podcast, and we asked, how did you

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Speaker 2: feel doing that? Did it feel like he was too

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Speaker 2: old for you?

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Speaker 3: She's like, no, well we weren't We were relatively contemporaries.

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Speaker 3: I mean were we were actually both adults, So.

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Speaker 5: She was over eighteen and then she was just eighteen

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Speaker 5: and she said, didn't she you know, so just eighteen?

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Speaker 3: That's not that crazy and real life, but it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's the high school thing. Like I was watching the

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Speaker 1: scene in the second episode when you're being so sweet

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Speaker 1: at the door. You weren't a physical mismatch like you

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Speaker 1: guys were a gorgeous couple. It's the high school thing

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that's hard.

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Speaker 3: To get it right. Like she he was I don't know,

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Speaker 3: twenty five, and she was seventeen or sixteen, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Any getting younger every time.

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Speaker 3: Well, now you think put it in those terms, it's

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Speaker 3: like it that's creepy.

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Speaker 2: So were you at ten or twenty years? That's what

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Speaker 2: everything is now? Like the husband's sixty and the wife's

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Speaker 2: thirty eight or something.

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Speaker 5: And were you aware of the weirdness, like we asked

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Speaker 5: you to watch the episode before coming here and that

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Speaker 5: did it bring that back?

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Speaker 1: Or like has that all?

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Speaker 2: Has that beened something in her mind about.

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Speaker 3: That at all? Really, because she was a grown up,

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Speaker 3: ptent professional actress, I didn't really think much of it

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Speaker 3: at the time we were shooting. When I watched it,

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's what we're finding is like watching the

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Speaker 5: episodes now, so many of the things we can't even remember.

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Speaker 5: But also just it just straight it just hits different now.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, and also like this was

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Speaker 3: the first year, it was different than what the show became.

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Speaker 3: I think I liked it. I liked the lot of

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Speaker 3: what happened in that episode was kind of corny and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're saying. It was really sweet. So

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Speaker 1: what was your auditioning process, Like, do you remember it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I know. I think that they had seen like

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Speaker 3: like literally thousands of guys, and I remember I don't

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Speaker 3: remember my auditions. I think it was kind of normal.

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Speaker 3: You know, you go and do you do your initial

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Speaker 3: and then you do another one for you know whoever

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Speaker 3: the producers, and then then then your screen test. I

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Speaker 3: think that was relatively normal. But I do remember while

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Speaker 3: I was doing that, I'm auditioning for other things all

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Speaker 3: over town, and they were holding auditions for Jake. Almost

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Speaker 3: everywhere I went. It was like, there's more auditions for Jake.

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Speaker 3: There's more, Yeah, they really it was a wide like.

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Speaker 1: Where would it be if it wasn't at the studio?

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Speaker 3: You know. I just remember like being at other places

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Speaker 3: being thinking this is odd that there were auditions.

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Speaker 1: And then do you remember the meeting is Jake that

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Speaker 1: he was Jake?

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Speaker 4: Do you remember meeting Aaron and what that was like?

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Speaker 4: Was it his office? Probably?

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Speaker 3: You know, I didn't meet like like I know Andrew did.

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Speaker 3: meet him like that. He was in the screen test

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Speaker 3: room with everyone else like him. I'm sure I shook

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Speaker 3: his hand, but I don't remember. It wasn't like I

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Speaker 3: show really unless the screen test was there. It was

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Speaker 3: so long ago. Do you remember that couch?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That went on forever and then turned the corner.

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Speaker 5: The world's most giant sectional couch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, in the cigar the cigar it was.

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Speaker 3: An orange couch, wasn't it?

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Speaker 4: Was it orange or like brick red?

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Speaker 3: It was in that it was this weird like early sixties,

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Speaker 3: late fifties color classic.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and did you so?

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Speaker 5: You said you were auditioning for a bunch of other stuff,

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Speaker 5: like did you did you? Was this the role you wanted?

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Speaker 5: Were you like there.

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Speaker 3: Was another job? I don't know. I don't remember if

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Speaker 3: but there was a medical show that either they were

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Speaker 3: was not going to do some unknown, untested medical show.

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Speaker 3: When this show we knew was it Partners?

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Speaker 1: Does that sound familiar?

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Speaker 3: That sure does?

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Okay, because my audition story bringing it back to me

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Speaker 1: finally was that that I didn't I auditioned, audition, didn't

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Speaker 1: get it, and then they said we're going to put

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Speaker 1: you on something, And they gave me the script for

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Speaker 1: Milor's place, a stack of scripts.

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Speaker 3: You didn't get Partners?

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Speaker 1: You were that you were like, they were like, we

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Speaker 1: want him for both, so you win this story.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know that they wanted me

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Speaker 3: because it's too long ago in my brain, but it

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Speaker 3: was like it was in there.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't back and back did you know that week

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Speaker 1: when you're back and back and back for that show.

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Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if we did cross paths and

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Speaker 1: we just don't remember you were having the same sort of.

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Speaker 2: Ye drama escalating Grant. I'm wondering if you felt this

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Speaker 2: part of Jake. And I don't know how much they

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Speaker 2: had you read or there was to read, but if

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Speaker 2: you felt like a similarity to you, is that why

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Speaker 2: you resonated, you think, or.

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Speaker 3: Or just it is probably why I got the job

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Speaker 3: because I was an angry young man and so was Jake,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I mean I think it just I

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Speaker 3: don't know that I was aware of that, or maybe

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Speaker 3: it would have been so angry and your abs.

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Speaker 5: I think you were cast for your abs on.

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Speaker 3: The motorc Well, I've been riding motorcycles since I was

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Speaker 3: like ten, Okay, so I don't believe I owned one

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Speaker 4: I couldn't afford it. So then you got the show,

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Speaker 4: then you bought a hand.

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Speaker 3: I mean immediately, it is the first thing I did.

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Speaker 1: I let you drive it to work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They never said a word to me about it. Wow,

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Speaker 3: but you know I'm going to ride my bike. Wow,

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Speaker 3: because you had one too, I did.

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Speaker 4: I got one much later after I rode with you

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Speaker 2: I told the story last time of the Then I

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Speaker 2: wanted my own, no offense, but I got those sports stores.

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Speaker 3: I just got rid of my bike that I bought that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: guess long as my daughter's ten. The first time I

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Speaker 3: got on it after my daughter was born, I was done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't scared. It wasn't like I was afraid of

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Speaker 3: getting injured. And none of those thoughts came in my head.

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Speaker 3: It just was like, this isn't fun anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get's interesting.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't even that clear. It just was this is

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Speaker 2: Fun, yea, yeah, everything changes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So when you were when you did the part on

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Speaker 1: nine two and oh? How did that feel going on

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Speaker 1: to that set? What was that set?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: You know, I never watched that show. I just knew

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Speaker 3: how big the hype was. And Luke like we both

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Speaker 3: our first jobs were across the hall from each other

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Speaker 3: in New York. So I'd known Luke for a very

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Speaker 3: long time. We dated the same woman. Oh not at

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Speaker 3: the same time, almost at the same time. So like

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Speaker 3: I'd known him for a long time. So that was

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Speaker 3: he was welcoming, and that was made things a little easier,

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Speaker 3: you know. But you're also like thirty and cocky and

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Speaker 3: you know, think you have like so I wasn't intimidated.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I probably thought I was overqualified.

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Speaker 1: Like they have me.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was it was clear that you were older,

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Speaker 1: Staid like that. Yeah, maybe not feel like a little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thirty, so old was Luke wasn't?

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Speaker 4: Aren't you guys?

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Speaker 3: I think he? I think they were all like four

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Speaker 5: Okay, And so you mentioned you had been on a show,

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Speaker 4: Things were different back then. Another that's a major.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe crazy. I did five years on the

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Speaker 1: Well, we were sold for thirteen. I remember when we

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Speaker 5: You remember that to tell us all about So.

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Speaker 3: Not with you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he jumped office fight. He gets in my face.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I find out that Steve McQueen's son.

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Speaker 3: Years later we had run into each other and you know,

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Speaker 2: That's an amazing Hollywood story, just like shooting on the side.

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Speaker 4: On Melrose Avenue. You guys were shooting.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and that you almost got a fight with

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Speaker 1: Nobody really were. It was one of those things where

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Speaker 3: Yes, we spent we spent a month doing pre publicity

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of you're right, they were so

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then as you become like the tough guy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun to see where we started. Wasn't

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Speaker 4: But to go back and see it.

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Speaker 5: Well it's exceptional that we even have the video footage

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Speaker 3: And it was a huge social event, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm a nostalgia. I don't have the sad part. I

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Speaker 1: I love my life so much. I almost felt like

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Speaker 1: I couldn't quite be in it because I wasn't quite

445
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Speaker 1: in my body yet at that time.

446
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Speaker 4: Nobody in their twenty eight seeing.

447
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Speaker 1: You guys now getting to spend the time see you today,

448
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Speaker 1: spend the time with I'm Lauren Dafney. It's so nice

449
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 1: to be together, like as friends without the noise, because

450
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Speaker 1: there was so much noise. There's so much attention and

451
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 1: noise and this like created competitiveness that isn't here now.

452
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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just so happy to be with you guys.

453
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Speaker 1: So it's nice to get too.

454
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Speaker 3: Do you mean competitiveness between you guys, because I never

455
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Speaker 3: saw any of that.

456
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, but I felt this need to prove myself.

457
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Speaker 1: There was sort of like this this intensity and this

458
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Speaker 1: competitiveness was from the outside in. But there were publicists

459
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: and stories and this kind of stuff, and I just

460
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Speaker 1: don't have that anymore. I'm just happy to spend this

461
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Speaker 1: time and connect with you guys. So that's my overwhelming feeling,

462
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: which is so like I'm watching it and I'm texting Andrew,

463
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: and my real feeling about this is I'm so excited

464
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: that we all get to spend time together again now

465
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Speaker 1: that we're all in such a different suite place in

466
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Speaker 1: our lives. So for me, it wasn't like there's all

467
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Speaker 1: this potential I felt. I think I felt more pressure

468
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: then that I don't feel now like I'm really enjoying

469
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Speaker 1: my life today in a way I couldn't then because

470
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh am I going to be What's

471
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Speaker 1: going to happen? It's like and I was like, I'm good,

472
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Speaker 1: It's good, I'm good. This is so much fun to

473
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Speaker 1: be together and do this.

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Speaker 2: That is a gift of getting older, isn't it. Yes,

475
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Speaker 2: I mean that is.

476
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Speaker 4: It's just there.

477
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Speaker 2: I just want to say that if there's any I know,

478
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Speaker 2: most of our fans are probably our age.

479
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm your age.

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Speaker 2: You guys are younger, yeah, a lot younger, just a

481
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Speaker 2: little bit. Well, but I feel like our fans are

482
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Speaker 2: kind of our age. I mean there is a younger

483
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Speaker 2: group too that I think watches. But you know, I

484
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Speaker 2: just hope that everyone, I think that everyone in our

485
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: audience being that age, they feel the same thing, which

486
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 2: is partially why I was excited about doing this. You

487
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: know that we all deserve a little reprieve from the

488
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: world today and like to go back and to when

489
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 2: we all have potential, when we're all we're young and

490
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Speaker 2: and watching Meloe's Place and just the nineties in general,

491
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: there's just a projection that it was easier and lighter

492
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Speaker 2: and colorful. And I don't know, that's what I that's

493
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Speaker 2: what I project onto those times from the outside the nineties,

494
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: you know, and like you goofed up, but that was

495
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Speaker 2: taken care of and there'd be next week and I

496
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Speaker 2: don't know, things were just it's just to me, that's

497
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Speaker 2: a that's a gift of this podcast at this age,

498
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Speaker 2: to your point to enjoy with the audience. Does anyone

499
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying with the audience to go back

500
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Speaker 2: to a time nostalgia, you know, And.

501
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Speaker 5: I think we've talked about it before that like what's

502
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Speaker 5: specific about watching this show is that people it evokes

503
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Speaker 5: where they were in their life at that time, because

504
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 5: they weren't they were watching it with someone and they

505
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Speaker 5: were watching it at a certain time. And so I

506
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Speaker 5: know we've all heard from friends like Wow, just watching

507
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 5: those episodes brings back a lot for the audience too,

508
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Speaker 5: because they'll say, I remember where I was and who

509
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Speaker 5: I was watching with at that time, and it brings

510
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 5: them back to their era of the twenties and so

511
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 5: like we were going through what we were going through

512
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 5: as people, but we were also going through show together.

513
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Speaker 5: So to have that memorialized on screen that we get

514
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 5: to revisit it and stuff.

515
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Speaker 2: I think the nostalgia is well and.

516
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Speaker 3: I think anytime you're having a deeply nostalgic moment, it's

517
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: going to be bittersweet.

518
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Speaker 2: Anytime, Yeah, because it's gone.

519
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: And our memories of things are always heightened. Like I

520
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: believe we always remember things as better than they were

521
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: in a way because you forget, you drop, I do.

522
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: I drop all the sort of negative stuff and I

523
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: hold on to the kind of positive stuff. So nostalgia

524
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 3: has that, but it's also it's always very bittersweet.

525
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

527
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Speaker 5: How do you do you feel like Melrose specifically? Do

528
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 5: you think it changed your life? Like, how do you

529
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Speaker 5: think it changed your life? What was that?

530
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Speaker 3: Like? What about you guys? But it turns it it

531
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Speaker 3: dictated the rest of my career. You know, not necessarily

532
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Speaker 3: for better or for worse. But I had a career.

533
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: I was going to work continued as long as I

534
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: put the effort in. I was going to continue to

535
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: work for as long as I wanted to because of

536
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: Melrose Place.

537
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Speaker 1: Do you find because I find still that's what people

538
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Speaker 1: remember me from. Like if someone says to me, like,

539
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: you look familiar, I could list the things I've done

540
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Speaker 1: in order I just go Malro's place.

541
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Speaker 4: So well, that's it.

542
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Speaker 1: Like, because it was, like we've talked about, was a

543
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Speaker 1: time in their lives. I lived in that apartment, I

544
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Speaker 1: watched it with my friends, I watched it in college.

545
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Speaker 1: It's like a part they have nostalgia for, not just

546
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Speaker 1: that time in their lives, but the show and what

547
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Speaker 1: the show meant connected to their college, high school experience.

548
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Speaker 3: It was sort of the last era of you know,

549
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: watercooler television.

550
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you find that that's what people recognize?

551
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Speaker 3: It depends in the age group, Like, yeah, because I

552
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: did Dynasty for so long. Like anybody like I don't know,

553
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: thirty five, forty or younger, they're going to say Dynasty.

554
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Speaker 1: Really yeah, oh that's fast.

555
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: So you know, if they're your age or if they're yeah,

556
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Speaker 2: you know that much be the agent.

557
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Speaker 5: Are you finding those to be also the same audience,

558
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Speaker 5: like do they know you from Dynasty and from Momos

559
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 5: or is it oh no, they discovered you.

560
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Speaker 2: Okay, so they are younger because Dynasty was CW.

561
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was mostly Netflix, which we.

562
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Speaker 4: Got to join you on, Laura.

563
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: Literally, don't make people watch it on CW. Seriously, two

564
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand. Wow, I know right.

565
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Speaker 1: Well, you said that's big Internationally it was big.

566
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Speaker 4: I think it Soflix.

567
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Speaker 3: On Netflix it would consistently be every time it dropped,

568
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Speaker 3: it would be in the top ten for like a month.

569
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Speaker 1: Crazy, that's so cool every time it dropped meaning a

570
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: new season. Yeah, oh was it fun? Did it feel

571
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Speaker 1: Melrose placy at all?

572
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Speaker 3: Not at all?

573
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Speaker 1: Why?

574
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Speaker 3: Because no one watched it in America, so like we

575
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 3: didn't get any of that. Like it was very It

576
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: was an international show, but the.

577
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Speaker 1: Drama, the sort of heightened drama, didn't have the same

578
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Speaker 1: feels a.

579
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Speaker 3: No, it's yeah and no, it had a very it

580
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: was very different feel. We were we were self aware,

581
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: whereas Meldoe's place was not. So we knew we were

582
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: doing tongue in cheek in some comedy. We would do

583
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: the exact storylines of the original show from our own perspective. Yeah, yeah,

584
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 3: I mean, like you know the story where it was

585
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: kidnapped baby and it was taken up to the building

586
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Speaker 3: and we're all on the roof of the building and

587
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: then the baby the person who kidnapped the baby was crazy,

588
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: threw the baby off the roof and it turns out

589
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Speaker 3: it was a doll. We did the whole thing exactly

590
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Speaker 3: like that. It was crazy standing on top of a

591
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: roof in the middle of Atlanta in the middle of winter.

592
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Speaker 3: It was freezing cold, so throwing dog it was a doll.

593
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: It was a doll.

594
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: Well, Graham, let's use that segue. What about our storylines?

595
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Speaker 2: But were some of them one of the ones that

596
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Speaker 2: stood out for you? For Melrose's place for Jake, Oh my,

597
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Speaker 2: I don't remember that.

598
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: You remember being in the middle of the ocean because

599
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: my boat grew up?

600
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: There was a boat. Yeah, there's a boat explosion. Yeah,

601
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 4: the blew up.

602
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: She had a lot of bad luck.

603
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 1: On the show. Jake had romances with each of us.

604
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: You were the first one, and of the people on

605
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: the show other than Amy and if I'm not mistaken

606
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: by the.

607
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: Time I before I show, I was at the end.

608
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: No, then we came back around to it. There was

609
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: something in the beginning of the show, because I remember

610
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, I'm going back for seconds.

611
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: Sloppy second.

612
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: I believe me.

613
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: Joe I was your life.

614
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: That's right, it was.

615
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: But then she came on.

616
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Speaker 1: You guys were together.

617
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 3: But she came on the season middle of season one, right.

618
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: Listen together before Billy and.

619
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Speaker 3: I don't think there was some flirtation catalyst. I think

620
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 3: it might have been. There was some I don't remember exactly,

621
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 3: but I know I.

622
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: Can't wait to get to those episodes.

623
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Speaker 3: That sounds right to me. It sounds to me like

624
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: maybe there was some flirtation with you and I and

625
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: that's what got Billy to come around, similar to his

626
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 3: flirtation with what was her name in the episode two.

627
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: That Marcy the taxi girl so furious about it. She

628
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: was great, she was great the last episode.

629
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

630
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: No, but Corney's running into her.

631
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: I've run into a probably thirty times since the show,

632
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: and remember each other from meloth I run under her everything.

633
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: She was terrific.

634
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 5: We're giving her all sorts of props and yes, Jensen

635
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 5: Jensen Daggett.

636
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: Okay, what a name.

637
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 4: But we'll have to.

638
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm so glad we have the opportunity to

639
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: rewatch all of our episodes so we can clarify these storylines,

640
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 5: because obviously we all have questions. You have a recollection,

641
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 5: like I think I was.

642
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: With think Jake was with everybody in the apartment.

643
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: Oh for sure at some point, for sure.

644
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: Oh so sure it was in my contract.

645
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: But by the way, we kept talking about Jake as

646
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: a stand up guy. That's like Laura's favorite thing. He

647
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: was a stand up guy, but he was a lay

648
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: down guy. This guy just laid down.

649
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 5: Well, but he would stick up for people in a way.

650
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 5: That's like that was the thing right and wrong and

651
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna yeah, like defending the lady and in the

652
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: unemployment office, I.

653
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: Remember that, you do. My daughter was watching with me

654
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: when that scene came on, and she went, as soon

655
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: as I pushed that cash, no, no, no, no, no.

656
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 5: No no, doesn't want to see it, doesn't want to

657
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 5: see it.

658
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: I don't want to see a fight.

659
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

660
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

661
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 5: It's so funny to see things through the eyes of

662
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 5: our children, because they do not feel comfortable watching this

663
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: or like another version of us that they just don't

664
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: want to.

665
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: What about you bear chested and she's like, daddy, put

666
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: some clothes on.

667
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: She's daddy, you got a six pack?

668
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: That is your daughter? Why do you think your shirt

669
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: was off?

670
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 4: Okay, we have a.

671
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: Question because I don't remember seeing this, But did you

672
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: ever work out or do those push ups that guys

673
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: would do like before?

674
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: No, we never did.

675
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: That, worked with and they'll do push ups right before.

676
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: Well no, because we had these genetically gifted guys like

677
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: Grant and Andrew. You eat nine doughnuts and then go

678
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: do a topless just so your body just doesn't make found.

679
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: It still doesn't.

680
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm still oh you poor baby, Yeah, you poor, how

681
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: you suffer.

682
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: It is a little different, though, it is.

683
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, all.

684
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 5: Right, weren't Yeah, let me let me get.

685
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: A violin because Grant six packs all these year thirty

686
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: years later.

687
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 4: It's a little bit different anyway.

688
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 5: So okay, so you remember the boat blowing up and

689
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 5: shooters like burns, something burned.

690
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: Down the motorcycle motorcycle shop, yeahtorcycle shop.

691
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe shooters stick stuck around. Maybe nothing happened to shooters.

692
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: That was like the last thing I remember the motorcycle

693
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: shop burned down to dineer somewhere.

694
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 5: Did you take anything, did you keep anything? Do you

695
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 5: have any like memorabilia, keep sakes, anything like clothes?

696
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: I mean I had a basement full of you know,

697
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: Melose place bags and melos place CDP players place hats

698
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: in Melos place. You know that felt followed me around

699
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: for decades. Yeah, right, I just had that kind of crap.

700
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: And I didn't take anything of the set.

701
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 5: I think my sister in law still has shooters glasses

702
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 5: in her cabinet.

703
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: That's cool.

704
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, she inherited those.

705
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: See. I was fascinated by, like when I found out

706
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: about all the art installation stuff that was stuck in there.

707
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: Although yes, no idea they tricked us those people the

708
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: only time they tricked us on that whole show.

709
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only time, the only time, what do you.

710
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: Mean art installations? Installations was like I think was like.

711
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: Political t shirts.

712
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 5: But Mattah in the art department would just like slip

713
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 5: down it.

714
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: But it was but it was a whole big plan

715
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: with the like they'd come to them and the producers

716
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: were aware of it, and it was a whole.

717
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: I feel like back then, I don't know about these

718
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: nonprofits that you're talking about, but like, don't you remember

719
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: a product placement was like a new thing and they

720
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: just took everything because it was like free money, you know,

721
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: Evyon Bottles and just product was like a thing back then,

722
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: and then it got really into it and then.

723
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: Before you know it, I remember like, hold.

724
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: This Dunkin Donuts like this, So they can't.

725
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: Do that on that show.

726
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: No, no, we didn't do it. It was very limit somewhere.

727
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: I remember Denise used to get like jewelry from all

728
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: the new you know, jewelry makers and all the new

729
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: designers would send us those clothes and all that.

730
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: But do you.

731
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: Guys remember that at about ten thirty every morning they'd

732
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: bring out a tub of tuna fish? Oh yes, I

733
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: remember that.

734
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 5: That choice.

735
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you came in late, and if you were

736
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: in it when it came out, you sort of adjusted it.

737
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: If you came in at like eleven, you.

738
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: Who don'ty minutes?

739
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: You all? I don't.

740
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't don't memory because that's not a.

741
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: Last starving by then, but we're like, if you have

742
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: a love scene, please, but the crew were starving you know.

743
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: Just like remember Heather been Jack trying to eat the

744
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: most disgusting thing before they're kissing.

745
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: Have you seen Heather recently?

746
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: Yes?

747
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: You have?

748
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh wow, we've been. We're going to see you

749
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: in Florida. It'll be great.

750
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: We're going to do just for those listening, we're going

751
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: to be doing a nineties con in Daytona, Florida, September thirteenth, fourteenth,

752
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: and fifteenth that weekend. I'll just pop that in.

753
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 5: It's a little fun. So what do you remember about

754
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: shooting that scene or just that shot of the refrigerator

755
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: opening and the light coming out of there.

756
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: I don't remember much. I was saying, like I know that,

757
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: I don't remember if it was even in a scene.

758
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: I don't remember if it was like let's shoot some

759
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: stuff for the for the title sequence, or if that

760
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: was pulled from a scene. I I just don't remember.

761
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 4: We'll look for it.

762
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: That's worth well, now it's unforgettable.

763
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: Did they tell you that was going to be on

764
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: every thing shot?

765
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: It was like one of those they were constantly having

766
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: to do that stuff. Like I remember standing over an

767
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: air conditioning unit with the air.

768
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: Blowing on and they had to put like probably a

769
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 5: special light in the fridge for when you opened.

770
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: It, like like the like yeah, watching the pilot episode

771
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: and then later on Andrew opens a refrigerator door, I'm like, nice,

772
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: nice everything.

773
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: Ever it is Melrose places.

774
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: We know they're throwing extra jackets on us, like you

775
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: can wear a sheet. Hey, guys, take your shirt off.

776
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 5: We were surprised to find that the guys were in

777
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 5: a constant state of shirtlessness.

778
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: Episode, Like, I do remember being shirtless a lot, but

779
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: I don't remember being this shirt everyone.

780
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: About at a certain point, at a certain point you

781
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: said I'm not doing another scene in the shower. I

782
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: remember you guys saying enough enough ready, right.

783
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just like better them than me, Like yeah,

784
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: he could face that way.

785
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: Aaron Spelling knew like he knew what the audience was

786
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: and he and.

787
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: I think the star probably something to do.

788
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: No, but it was pretty clothes on the women, yeah

789
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: for sure, and no hats on the men was kind

790
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: of the note.

791
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: It just made me think of something else. It shot

792
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 3: a whole lot better than I remember it being shot too. Yes,

793
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm surprised. I was surprised at how well it was shot.

794
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: It was film that's true, But I'm just talking about

795
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 3: how the shots were set up. I remember being cran

796
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: close ups like this, but it wasn't later.

797
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: Well, this is the beginning, remember Later it was over

798
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: to close up, over to close up. So in this

799
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: second episode, do you remember the scene when you had

800
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: your sunglasses on?

801
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 3: Yep?

802
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: Do you remember if that was your choice? Because you

803
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: were thinking that was and then Aaron, no more sunglasses ever,

804
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure.

805
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: I remember something about I don't remember who it was.

806
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: You were a hat?

807
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, at gum because of the famous Barbis Dreisen's story

808
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: of faking having gum. I'm like, I'm going to show

809
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: them I'm really from New York. I'm going to be

810
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: chewing gum and wearing a hat, I guess. And Aaron

811
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: was like, whatever that is, get rid of it.

812
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: We're reshooting.

813
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: And then also we had a scene where we were

814
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: shooting in the pool and there were extras there, and

815
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: then that came back. No no, no, no no no, the

816
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: only people at this pool.

817
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 5: Well, we will be having you back. We are so

818
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 5: glad that you flew out and come and sit on

819
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 5: the couch and shot with us until next time.

820
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm still the place