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Speaker 3: I said, it was no, no, no, no. Listen, the first half.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just say, the first half was band. The
Speaker 3: first half is band. You could have dozed off, could
Speaker 3: have dozed off. Even if you love the game of football.
Speaker 2: That was some. It was some boo jack. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I took the dogs out to go part in. You
Speaker 1: know I would do I would do it a whole
Speaker 1: lot of other stuff. But let's get it right. You
Speaker 1: beat the forty nine Ers in overtime twenty five, twenty two,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. This is the first time under the new
Speaker 1: rules in the playoffs, both teams was going to position.
Speaker 1: That's the football, So even if the forty nine has
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, the Chiefs were gonna get an opportunity
Speaker 1: to match.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: He's become the first team in twenty years to win
Speaker 1: back to back Super Bowl. The last team to do
Speaker 1: it the three tozer four Patriots. Mahomes earned his third
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP and four seasons thirty four and forty six,
Speaker 1: three thirty three two touchdowns, won the Spson. He's now
Speaker 1: one of five quarterbacks in league history to win at
Speaker 1: least three Super Bowls, joining Tom Brady who won seven,
Speaker 1: Joe Montana, who won for Terry Bradshaw, who won for
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman who won three. Eigman and Holmes twenty eight
Speaker 1: are the only ones in that group to win three
Speaker 1: before their thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 2: Let that sink in.
Speaker 1: He's won three super Bowls, three Super Bowl MVPs, two
Speaker 1: regular season MVPs, two five thousand yard passing seasons, a
Speaker 1: fifty touchdown passing season.
Speaker 2: Yoh shoe.
Speaker 1: And he's two years he's two years before his thirtieth birthdayanhuman.
Speaker 1: Across the last two postseasons, Oho Mahomes is gone seven
Speaker 1: to zero, throwing thirteen touchdowns with one an exception. And
Speaker 1: now he's fifteen and three in the postseason and it's
Speaker 1: post young postseason career.
Speaker 2: So after to night, hopefully, hopefully we can put the bed.
Speaker 1: There's no quarterback that's currently playing that's his stratusphere. Now
Speaker 1: you take the other quarterbacks that you believe our elite,
Speaker 1: and you let them, jockey it out, you put them
Speaker 1: in a bag, and whichever one you come out with,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll be happy. But we've got to stop
Speaker 1: this notion your quarterback is just as good as Mahomes
Speaker 1: because he's not, because first of all, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the regular season accolades, and he definitely doesn't have the
Speaker 1: postseason accolades. And in the biggest moments, Mahome plays his best.
Speaker 1: But oh Joe, you were at the game. What was
Speaker 1: certain take away from the game.
Speaker 3: Well, obviously, there was really not much to talk about
Speaker 3: in the first half. The first half of it was loosy,
Speaker 3: like you did say earlier. But that second hal that
Speaker 3: second half of the game was some of the best
Speaker 3: football that I was able to watch in person. And
Speaker 3: I was on the edge of my seat the second half.
Speaker 3: I wasn't able to sit down obviously because of the
Speaker 3: bet that I did make. I was extremely nervous. I
Speaker 3: was very, very, very nervous. The forty nine ers look good.
Speaker 3: The play calling by Shanahan to me was good as well.
Speaker 3: He didn't allow perty, didn't put Purty in a bad
Speaker 3: position where he could make mistakes, and McCaffrey saved the day.
Speaker 3: With the run, the short, the short, the quick game. Yes,
Speaker 3: uh kiddle, what did wasn't involved as much as he
Speaker 3: should have been, as much as I would have liked
Speaker 3: for him to been, to give them a chance to
Speaker 3: also win. And obviously I'm gonna get to this areas
Speaker 3: twenty in a minute. But Mahomes, my home was special.
Speaker 3: Home was special. And I'm glad they won due to
Speaker 3: the on the sideline Kelsey Kelsey and then Rashi, Rice
Speaker 3: and Mahomes were also arguing on the sideline. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure what what that might have been about, but I'm
Speaker 3: glad they did win because that's those two situations and
Speaker 3: it well.
Speaker 1: Especially Kill because he almost knocked down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And other than that, man, listen that second half, Man,
Speaker 3: that overtime. I'm not even gonna lie to you. Man,
Speaker 3: I was so scared.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was so scared.
Speaker 1: But man, but you knew, Oho, you knew if the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers did not score touchdown, Home was gonna
Speaker 1: get that ball and.
Speaker 3: Go and go right down the field because he's done
Speaker 3: it every time, he's done it. He does it every time.
Speaker 3: And when they when they went for that field goal,
Speaker 3: I sat back and it was a little weight off
Speaker 3: my shoulder. It was a little weight off my shoulder
Speaker 3: because I knew they got an opportunity to go down
Speaker 3: this field and score. And that's exactly what they did. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was some goddamn good football man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old shoe.
Speaker 1: The thing about what makes Mahomes, he's like Brady. If
Speaker 1: he needs if Brady needed three, he got three. If
Speaker 1: he needed seven, he got seven. That's exactly what Mahomes
Speaker 1: is capable of doing. And Oho, I did not. And
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and saying, oh I
Speaker 1: saw this coming, because I didn't. I did. I did
Speaker 1: the entirety of the season. And we watched them drop passes.
Speaker 2: There. See if they drop a pass, I mean, if
Speaker 2: you want to trunk that, we.
Speaker 1: Got one one right when he home an one if
Speaker 1: you want to say that one a difficult catch, but rights,
Speaker 1: at this level and the way he's been playing, he
Speaker 1: probably should have made that catch. He probably can make that,
Speaker 1: probably make that catch eight out of ten times. Right
Speaker 1: offensive line, they would shaky as hell. In the first half,
Speaker 1: Mahoe was running for his life. Those tackles. Even the
Speaker 1: guards were giddy beat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know what green law eight. I don't know
Speaker 3: what Green Law eight before that goddamn game, before the
Speaker 3: injury or whatever happened to him. I'm not sure what
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 2: Because it looked like he was about to go too.
Speaker 1: And you can see that when you see that camp
Speaker 1: reverber rate all the way down.
Speaker 2: It's not a sign. I'm knocking on wood hoping for
Speaker 2: the best. But it didn't look.
Speaker 3: Good right, Young Bull was all over the place. Fred
Speaker 3: Warner came to the party. Fred Warner came to the party. Uh,
Speaker 3: they played well again. Kudo to the forty nine defense,
Speaker 3: Kudo to the forty nine ers offense. They played a
Speaker 3: good game. They did everything they could do. They did
Speaker 3: everything they could do. It's just something about Mahomes and
Speaker 3: clutch situations when it matters most, he always come through.
Speaker 3: And when they when they kicked that field goal, I said,
Speaker 3: you know what, they going down the score. Those two
Speaker 3: slip screens, Those two slip screens, the slip screen to
Speaker 3: Proteco first, yeah, and then the second slip screen to
Speaker 3: Travis Kelce. I ain't see. I didn't see that play
Speaker 3: all game. No, not like that. I saw the regular screens,
Speaker 3: you know, the smoke screen, yea yeah, yeah, you're both
Speaker 3: too man. Those two play calls in those in that
Speaker 3: moment on that last drive, the march down that field,
Speaker 3: that was magic. That was magic, Otra magic.
Speaker 1: You remember we talked about this earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: I say the thing, the key a lot of time.
Speaker 1: The key to winning playoff game is when you have
Speaker 1: the momentum, how much separation can you get? Now, the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers had the momentum in the first half
Speaker 1: and they only had a ten to three lead.
Speaker 2: That's not enough. You needed to be seventeen to three.
Speaker 1: You needed to be twenty to three because you really
Speaker 1: dominated the first half of the game. But because because
Speaker 1: you let matome he can still see your tail lights.
Speaker 3: You needed to disappear.
Speaker 2: You needed to.
Speaker 1: Really disappear, o Jo, because you got the momentum and
Speaker 1: you let him be and so Andy they going their halftime.
Speaker 1: It's like you've heard this speech before, Ojo, it's Poorland.
Speaker 1: As we're playing, we'll only once score down. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: go out there.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: It didn't start out great because they go three and
Speaker 1: out their first two drives. But when you get a
Speaker 1: situation like that, you have to put some separation between
Speaker 1: you and if you look at that second half, and
Speaker 1: you know you're like, Okay, now, y'all, y'all keep on
Speaker 1: trying to be a party up because y'all wanted people
Speaker 1: to think he that dude. Yeah not, he's not. And
Speaker 1: now let me ask him. Did he answer all your questions?
Speaker 1: Because there's a couple of throws, the money throw. You
Speaker 1: gotta make those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to make those, especially the game of
Speaker 3: this magnitude because all those throws count. This this is
Speaker 3: the game where every throw, every run and I mean mine. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Mind you remember the two fumbles, Yes, well they kind
Speaker 3: of they kind of they kind of what's the world
Speaker 3: I'm looking for? Not eliminate each other because they both fumbled. Yea,
Speaker 3: they both back to back.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, we know for certain, there's a
Speaker 1: great there's probably a ninety percent chance we're projecto fumble.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get at least three out of that old Joe.
Speaker 1: Because he fled like the ten was a twelve yard
Speaker 1: lest So you know they're gonna get three. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not exactly where McCaffrey McCaffrey fumble, but there's you know, uh,
Speaker 1: it's not as the percentages are not the same but
Speaker 1: you're right.
Speaker 2: One had a.
Speaker 1: Turnover, the other had a turnover, and then Mahomes had
Speaker 1: a terrible pick because they had Kelsey just over threw it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really it's really that. It's really that simple there, know,
Speaker 1: there was no magic about it. Oh, they tricked them
Speaker 1: and they had this anxiety coverage, know exaety coverage. Kelsey
Speaker 1: was open and and my home boy sailed the ball.
Speaker 1: You know, it's really that simple. And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: But to give him credit, and you see and it
Speaker 1: started calling more runs. You see on fourth down, faking
Speaker 1: a get up the field. You see it. He looking
Speaker 1: to hit those creases because now everybody has their back
Speaker 1: turned to it and now he's able to he's able
Speaker 1: to get together, take off and use his leg.
Speaker 2: But he was, he was.
Speaker 1: Mahome was in leading Russia nine for sixty six head
Speaker 1: along with twenty two the checko what is that? Eighteen
Speaker 1: eighteen for fifty nine, Rights had two for five. But
Speaker 1: that was and and Kelsey one kid, He's like, give
Speaker 1: me the ball. Oh yeah, let that make this thing happen.
Speaker 3: I don't understand what was going on in the first half.
Speaker 3: I don't understand what's going on in the first half. Obviously,
Speaker 3: how do you allow a team to dictate you're one
Speaker 3: of your obviously your best threat outside of Rashid Rice,
Speaker 3: don't allow the defense to dictate getting your best players
Speaker 3: of all. I hate that. I hate that. I've discussed
Speaker 3: it before with other teams. You got, especially a game
Speaker 3: like this, you have a player of that magnitude probably arguably,
Speaker 3: I mean, which you would agree with the best tight
Speaker 3: end to ever play the game. You got to get my.
Speaker 2: Goal for me.
Speaker 1: And if you look at the way he's playing, But
Speaker 1: oh Jo and look, and this is not a knock
Speaker 1: on Gronk, because Gronk was very exact same way they play.
Speaker 2: They play at this.
Speaker 1: Level in the regular season and they're able to up
Speaker 1: it in the postseason, and both guys can do that,
Speaker 1: and so but I just think had I would have
Speaker 1: loved to see Gronk have a stretch of health like
Speaker 1: Kelsey's had, because you remember, Gronk had the back injury,
Speaker 1: he missed a couple of games with the knee, he
Speaker 1: had some ankle trouble, he had the elbow, and so
Speaker 1: he had some issues staying healthy.
Speaker 2: But he's still for me, he's my.
Speaker 1: Second greatest tight end that I that that I believe
Speaker 1: that's on my list.
Speaker 2: Now you can have I mean a lot of people
Speaker 2: have Gronk in front of Kelsey.
Speaker 1: Some people might have Antonio Gates, so Tony Gunzales in
Speaker 1: front of to have at it.
Speaker 3: But that's my list when it comes to that, when
Speaker 3: it comes to those guys like you Gates wrong, Kelsey, uh,
Speaker 3: numbers aside. I think it's based on preference. It's based
Speaker 3: on which because all of them, the different styles of players,
Speaker 3: they all get the job done, they just get it
Speaker 3: done in different ways. So I think it comes down
Speaker 3: to preference. Hell all y'all was good, all y'all, I'm
Speaker 3: good about the best they ever god damn play, So
Speaker 3: it ain't really no argument for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean and uh, but he got it. Mahomes
Speaker 1: got it going because he I thought he could have
Speaker 1: entered the game in the for and and and and
Speaker 1: regulation if he gets them all up on that back
Speaker 1: shower fade to Kelsey when.
Speaker 3: He got against the Warner against Warner, I played.
Speaker 2: That they had against Baltimore last to.
Speaker 3: Baltimore on on Cayle Helm's exactly Yeah, the show was, Yes,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know, Man the Man the forty
Speaker 3: nine and defense was tired that second half. Well, hell
Speaker 3: the chief defense was tired too, But for some reason
Speaker 3: they went they went to man the Man when obviously
Speaker 3: you could tell the players were gas. God damn, Fred
Speaker 3: Warner had Kelsey one on one. H. I mean, you
Speaker 3: know he can't he can't stay with him on that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: As great as Fred Warner is, you know he can't
Speaker 3: stay with him. Like God, safety and Nickels sometimes have
Speaker 3: have problems staying with Kelsey.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh Joe, what's the number one? Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: We're taught in the route to get across the defender's
Speaker 1: face as the defender.
Speaker 2: Your number one rule. You never let a man cross
Speaker 2: your face.
Speaker 3: Across your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, offensive line, never let a man cross your face.
Speaker 1: Defensive line, never let the man cross your face so
Speaker 1: he can get up on your back.
Speaker 2: Dvs. Never let the receiver cross your face.
Speaker 1: Roll you got man kept coverage and you playing because
Speaker 1: he played it for the wheel round, he played it
Speaker 1: for the fade. So now you gotta you kind of
Speaker 1: splitting the difference. You got your your hit, so he
Speaker 1: lined up and and so you're splitting him. You're his
Speaker 1: leg forward leg and you so he gives you a
Speaker 1: little nod, you open and you open it.
Speaker 2: That's it, over, Is it? All you need?
Speaker 3: All you need, listen, all you need is that small
Speaker 3: hesitation that look, half a step is done. It's done.
Speaker 2: My position, coach less deco.
Speaker 1: The man that hesitates be yeah every time, And people
Speaker 1: don't understand.
Speaker 3: He's like, well, all he did. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the elite of the elite. Oh, Joe Mimber,
Speaker 1: you're talking about race cars. I mean, everybody spending ten
Speaker 1: thirty forty million dollars. What's the the least mistake giving
Speaker 1: them the inside, the least mistake you make at this level,
Speaker 1: it's over.
Speaker 3: It's over.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody that exponentially better?
Speaker 1: Every once in a while you get a mismatch, Ojo,
Speaker 1: But in most yeah, but in most situations you're talking
Speaker 1: about the best of the best against the best of
Speaker 1: the best. But you can't, you can't that that mistake
Speaker 1: is to play man coverage and leave him out like that,
Speaker 1: because guess what, you got everybody coming, and so he's
Speaker 1: got to get over, he's got to get old picks. Now,
Speaker 1: he did a great job of getting over the pick.
Speaker 1: But a stay up, a step for trap, it's over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's over.
Speaker 2: This was this game was the second half.
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey had ten targets, nine catches for ninety three yards.
Speaker 1: He had He had eight of those catchers for ninety
Speaker 1: two of those yards in the second half. Nicole Harriman
Speaker 1: had an unbelievable game. Oh Joe, how many times are
Speaker 1: they gonna let them run that whip route where we started?
Speaker 2: Now, they got two touchdowns last year against.
Speaker 3: Phillyp with the whip route, coming in with the motion
Speaker 3: and then coming back back and coming back out with
Speaker 3: a snap. Yep, yep. Rashid Rice ran it twice. He
Speaker 3: caught one and Mahons missed him on the first. Oh no,
Speaker 3: that was a drop. Yes, that was a drop on
Speaker 3: the on the whip.
Speaker 1: Sky Moore caught a touchdown last year. Darius Tony called
Speaker 1: a touchdown last year. So that's two touchdowns. They come
Speaker 1: back and run that same play. Yeah, now they already
Speaker 1: know the tight end and Kelsey. Kelsey will even try
Speaker 1: to get open because he knows that they're gonna try.
Speaker 1: They gonna sink and they're gonna try to take the
Speaker 1: seven right, they'll sell around from him. If you go
Speaker 1: Kelsey doesn't even turn around. He doesn't even turn it around.
Speaker 1: He already you already know.
Speaker 3: What it is. M M comes in mm hmm in backup,
Speaker 3: wide open every time you know what I'm damn As
Speaker 3: a dB, you would damn to have to guess. You
Speaker 3: would have to guess based on based on film study.
Speaker 3: But in that situation, in a game like that, you
Speaker 3: don't want to guess. You want you want to want
Speaker 3: to play. You want to play with your eyes show you.
Speaker 3: You want to play with your I show you.
Speaker 1: In that defense, you got no choice because, Okay, if
Speaker 1: you get on this hip and you run the shallow cross,
Speaker 1: you beat. If you get ahead of him, you see
Speaker 1: he's gonna do. He gonna start your head, He's gonna
Speaker 1: whip it back out on you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta play honest.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's what the coach. You just say, Hey, that's
Speaker 1: on me. I put you in a bad spot, son,
Speaker 1: that's all you got In a bass spoting you could
Speaker 1: do that, and you know what I was thinking about, unless.
Speaker 2: Is probably zoned it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, once he go in motion EXPI Yeah, Now you
Speaker 1: run the risk of somebody sitting there down in that
Speaker 1: zone on your.
Speaker 3: Ass, bingo and and he gonna pick he's gonna pick
Speaker 3: you off. He's gonna pick you off, and and think
Speaker 3: it dunk if you do that. But again, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna touch on the Cadarius Tony stuff and the struggles
Speaker 3: that they had offensively in the first half. Obviously Cardarius
Speaker 3: Tony didn't play was he was a healthy scratch. But
Speaker 3: I felt and I said this, I think with you
Speaker 3: guys gonna first take, I said, we need all hands
Speaker 3: on deck, we need all hands on deck, and we
Speaker 3: nail all weapons on deck. And obviously I know what happened.
Speaker 3: I know some of the struggles Kadarius Tony had, but
Speaker 3: I talked about excuse me, having all hands on deck
Speaker 3: and him being a weapon that can be used, especially
Speaker 3: in the first half, because offensively it was so it
Speaker 3: was so like lethargic, you know, it was very methodical.
Speaker 3: It didn't look like it seemed like there was no
Speaker 3: really no creativity offensively, and the forty nine were on everything.
Speaker 3: You couldn't run the ball, you couldn't throw the ball.
Speaker 3: Play action wasn't working. Obviously, run it, yeah, exactly, So
Speaker 3: I thought maybe going to the short game. You know,
Speaker 3: little quick screens here and there. I just thought having
Speaker 3: Tony would have been a great answer in the first
Speaker 3: half when things weren't going the way you want them to,
Speaker 3: especially offensively. But listen, Tony, he didn't play, but guess
Speaker 3: what he getting a maringa and he got two here,
Speaker 3: and he got two up.
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Speaker 2: Oh Joe did he do it do it? Did he
Speaker 2: do himself any favors by going on I g.
Speaker 3: Line, No, no, sir, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Oh jo why why?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: You need to get with him and explain.
Speaker 3: I got him, I got him, I got him. I
Speaker 3: just there's only so much I could do. In the
Speaker 3: middle of a season. You got so much going on,
Speaker 3: emotions are running running high. You want to do well.
Speaker 3: You think about all the work you put in, and
Speaker 3: things aren't really going the way you plan. Sometimes that happens.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it happens, so I understand where it's coming from.
Speaker 3: Now he can exhale, he can reset, take some time off,
Speaker 3: and when it's time for him to train, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be right. I'm gonna have a cliche strapped up right
Speaker 3: with him. We gonna work, Oh Joe, what you think
Speaker 3: Kansas City comes back? A three P mahomes is the
Speaker 3: m v p hmm.
Speaker 1: We might have to we might have to really call
Speaker 1: that goat thing into discussion, right because it would be
Speaker 1: the first time in the history of the game that
Speaker 1: somebody is repeating, right if we understand how hard it
Speaker 1: is to repeat. That's why you handt.
Speaker 3: Along three mm hmm. You think you think they have
Speaker 3: an opportunity. Well, if they're going to repeat.
Speaker 1: They got to bring They got to get CJ. They
Speaker 1: got to get Lagarious Need, they got to get guys
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: Yep, Listen, they not repeating unless you have those two
Speaker 3: center pieces on defense. Because if you think about it,
Speaker 3: people in the chat, if you think about it, the
Speaker 3: regular season for the Kansas City Chiefs, it wasn't about
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. It was about Spagnolia. And they got their
Speaker 3: defense yea. And the way and the way they held
Speaker 3: them about the entirety of the season. And obviously, you play,
Speaker 3: you play, you play, you play great DV. You play
Speaker 3: great defense, and you leave it in my home hands
Speaker 3: when it's time to win the back trying to win
Speaker 3: the game. And he's gonna come through for you every
Speaker 3: time because he's someone that you can put everything, the
Speaker 3: onus and winning the game on him when it matters.
Speaker 2: Most O Joe, that muff punt.
Speaker 1: H hit the blocker, hit the blocker shut. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you know, oh Joe, I mean you can't say
Speaker 1: should have fell on it. He should have fell on instead.
Speaker 3: To pick it up. That's the rule.
Speaker 1: No, O Joe, that situation, you don't play hero ball
Speaker 1: that I said, Look, you try to tell yourself, hey man,
Speaker 1: just just a football game. Bro. It's just like all
Speaker 1: the rest of them. The feel is the same, difference,
Speaker 1: the points count the same. A touchdown a six, a
Speaker 1: safetiest too, A field gold is three, a p a
Speaker 1: t if you kick it is one. You go for
Speaker 1: it and get it, it's two. But you can't trick
Speaker 1: your mind. Your mind know what the magnitude of this
Speaker 1: game is. So you tell yourself all you want to
Speaker 1: is just the game. But you know, you understand, you
Speaker 1: can feel it. The moment driving to the stadium, people
Speaker 1: are waving. They got the banners, they got your banners,
Speaker 1: they got the other teams banners. On the way till stadium.
Speaker 1: You could come out on that field, o joke. You
Speaker 1: know how it was. Think about all the all the
Speaker 1: people that was already in the stands, think about all
Speaker 1: the people that were on the field.
Speaker 2: So you like, hold on this.
Speaker 1: Itsh ain't regular And when the when was the last
Speaker 1: time you had a regular season game that you were
Speaker 1: there from somewhere from Sunday to Monday. You have had
Speaker 1: a regular season game you were somewhere from Sunday to Monday,
Speaker 1: so your body, no hold on. I ain't used just
Speaker 1: sleeping in their beds so far in there like this
Speaker 1: this list.
Speaker 3: It is different. It's different.
Speaker 1: I ain't used to have used to having all the
Speaker 1: meetings every day in a hotel room, right, and then
Speaker 1: we have a big meeting in a conference room. That
Speaker 1: ain't normal, right, But that and sometimes that's what it takes.
Speaker 1: It takes, and the momentum swung big time at that
Speaker 1: point in time, and you're just like, Okay, they tried
Speaker 1: to get it back. But that block Pat, that block
Speaker 1: Pat is that was that was that was a huge
Speaker 1: jojo that was you.
Speaker 3: Know, that fifty yard field goal was huge.
Speaker 1: Well, Buck got legs straight straight down the line, straight
Speaker 1: down the line, and the Chief was down by Remember
Speaker 1: they were down by ten the first time they played
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. They was down by ten against
Speaker 1: the Eagles. They've been they were down ten to night.
Speaker 1: What else does Mahomes have to what does he what
Speaker 1: else you have to do with Joe?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I think if I'm not mistaken, in
Speaker 3: all the playoff games, playoff games, maybe not Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: he been down double digits and all of them if
Speaker 3: I'm if I'm not mistaken the game back and one.
Speaker 1: He was well, he was down double digit. He's down
Speaker 1: twenty four nothing against the Texas. He was down ten
Speaker 1: nothing against the Tennessee Titans. We know, we just mentioned
Speaker 1: he was down three. So he's been down double digits
Speaker 1: probably see, but you look at his record trailing in
Speaker 1: the second half of a playoff game was.
Speaker 2: Eight and two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy crazy. He's good. He's good. He's good,
Speaker 3: and I think also I want to give credit to
Speaker 3: Andy Reid as well with the play calling. I want
Speaker 3: to give credit Andy Reid as well with the play
Speaker 3: call and really not putting Mahomes and the ball in
Speaker 3: harm's way even though you're trailing, because you know, when
Speaker 3: you're trilling, you just start calling anything instead of just
Speaker 3: playing your game.
Speaker 2: That's where the term game manager.
Speaker 1: And you see that Mahomes understands I can't take the
Speaker 1: risks that I normally could.
Speaker 3: Right right when you're down. You have to be a
Speaker 3: game manager when you're down because all all your decision
Speaker 3: makings have to be right.
Speaker 1: You pay double for you play double for turnovers, ojoe, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you pay double for those. And so now as opposed
Speaker 1: to being swashed buckling. He has to be conservative. Okay,
Speaker 1: that four yard round, It's only four yard man, Come on, man,
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field. No, that throw isn't there.
Speaker 1: This is the throw that's there. And you know the
Speaker 1: thing is like, ah man, you know, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: coach of Steve Wilks is saying he's gonna get antsy.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna make him keep checking it down, making
Speaker 1: him keep checking it down, and then he's gonna get greedy,
Speaker 1: and when he does, we're gonna be there.
Speaker 2: Right. But he's learned and he's done a great job
Speaker 2: of this. Son.
Speaker 1: Take what they give you and don't be afraid to
Speaker 1: take off. From the time that he won that first
Speaker 1: Super Bowl when they were down against the Texans and
Speaker 1: he started using his legs, he's.
Speaker 2: The quarterbacks different quarterback.
Speaker 1: He doesn't run if he's never gonna be justin fields
Speaker 1: or Lamar mike Vic he never gonna be that.
Speaker 2: But he runs.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it hurts more when he runs because you're
Speaker 1: not expecting that.
Speaker 2: Back then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he had to run the night when he
Speaker 3: went up the gut.
Speaker 1: That third down, you see a point block, yet I'm
Speaker 1: hit the head of the gold. You block him, oh Man,
Speaker 1: DoD That was a great game.
Speaker 2: A great game.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs were down ten. In playoff games down seven
Speaker 1: or more in the Patrick Mahomes era, the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: ninety two. The next quarterback win ratio in that scenario,
Speaker 1: dating back to nineteen fifty is Tom Brady. He's ten
Speaker 1: and eleven. Let me read I want to read this
Speaker 1: again again, so people got people understand that in playoff
Speaker 1: games down seven or more in the Patrick Mahomes era,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are nine and two in those games. The
Speaker 1: next best quarterback win ratio in that scenario, which means
Speaker 1: down at least seven points, dating back to nineteen fifty,
Speaker 1: so we're going back almost seventy five years, is Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: He's subbed five hundred. He's ten and eleven. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: is nine and two in said games. The next closest
Speaker 1: is Tom at ten and eleven.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: And we've been talking about this there bill a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of Gold talk. And I was on
Speaker 1: I was on somebody's show Wednesday when I was doing
Speaker 1: media day for EYKOS, and I said, right now, Tom
Speaker 1: has the big horns.
Speaker 2: He used to go. He got the big horns. Of course.
Speaker 1: Of course, where you're gonna put mahome boy, he gets
Speaker 1: that three P three P for Super Bowl MVPs, right,
Speaker 1: and he's not thirty Where you putting?
Speaker 2: Do do?
Speaker 3: You? Do? You over But he doesn't overlap overlap Tom
Speaker 3: because obviously people will bring up the fact that Tom
Speaker 3: has six seven rings or what.
Speaker 1: I think I thought the eye tests, because that's what
Speaker 1: they told back I see it first. Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: They say Jordan is the gold because he threepeted. They
Speaker 1: say Covid is next in line because he threepetd. So
Speaker 1: I just need to know are we staying consistent with that,
Speaker 1: yes or no?
Speaker 3: Listen, now you have to talk to those who watch
Speaker 3: the game of basketball. I'm just gonna shick the football
Speaker 3: and what I actually know. But I think you know
Speaker 3: it comes down the numbers. It comes down the rings,
Speaker 3: and rings matter. Rings matter, especially when it comes to
Speaker 3: the quarterback position when we're talking about the goat. But
Speaker 3: until you unseat the individual who is in front with
Speaker 3: the most, then I mean, can there be a gold junior? Oh?
Speaker 1: Well he is that right now. But here's the right,
Speaker 1: if rings is well, Bill Russell has eleven. Nobody said
Speaker 1: it's the goat, you know, I like Robert Ory has
Speaker 1: seven rings, right. Uh, there are a lot of Celtics
Speaker 1: hamlet checking, Sam Jones and Casey Jones. I just think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's gonna be a very interesting conversation
Speaker 1: because no, because a lot of teams have tried the
Speaker 1: three P and the thing is, I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of extra games on your body because you're talking
Speaker 1: about going to four super Bowls in the span of six.
Speaker 1: Hold on, that'll be four and six years. Right, No,
Speaker 1: that'll be five yet three and one, that'll be five
Speaker 1: and six years. Nobody's ever done that.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yes, this ain't. This ain't the game of
Speaker 3: a Madden This is real life.
Speaker 2: It's real life. It's real life.
Speaker 1: But I mean I think now O Joe, nothing that
Speaker 1: he does surprises you. Yeah, I mean I just knew
Speaker 1: once they set up for the field goal. Hey, like
Speaker 1: John Witherspoon said in Friday, Next Next Friday, that's your that's.
Speaker 2: Your ass, mister.
Speaker 3: It was a rap. It was a rap.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Travis Kelson, Andy Reid incident.
Speaker 3: A J.
Speaker 1: Brown tweeted out the game. If that was me, I
Speaker 1: would have been kicked out of the league.
Speaker 3: Oh you know what it was? You come on, now,
Speaker 3: you know what Listen, you know what it is. There's
Speaker 3: no need to explain it. You know, there's certain people
Speaker 3: that can get away with certain things based on situation
Speaker 3: and circumstance. You know, A J. Brown, you're held to
Speaker 3: a different standard. You're on the microscope cheetah. Players that
Speaker 3: that that have personalities, players that are dean divas, you know,
Speaker 3: are held to us. It's it's always been that way.
Speaker 3: That that's that's nothing new.
Speaker 1: That's remember when he threw his helmet and they say,
Speaker 1: what damn are you doing? And the equipment got tried
Speaker 1: to get it back to him and say no, don't
Speaker 1: give me his helmet back. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: surprised though, I'm surprised that. Look, I know we've all
Speaker 1: had shouting at not getting shouting at the.
Speaker 3: Motion of the game. That's the more that. I don't
Speaker 3: think you really meant to bump him. I think it's
Speaker 3: just the emotion of the game, especially a game we
Speaker 3: talk about super Bowl, we talk about super Bowl and
Speaker 3: him wanting to contribute and them not being able to
Speaker 3: give him the ball. I would be frustrated too as well,
Speaker 3: allowing the forty nine defense to dictate what I can
Speaker 3: and can't do on the field. And I think that's
Speaker 3: what was frustrated the most.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, here's the difference between Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: situation and George Kettle. If you don't throw killing the ball,
Speaker 1: you still got Debo, you still got a You, you
Speaker 1: still got Christian McCaffrey, you still got Jennings if.
Speaker 3: So many other options.
Speaker 1: If you don't get Kelsey, basically you relegated to he
Speaker 1: and Rice. I mean Justin Justin what's the guy named
Speaker 1: eighty four? Justin Watson, justin watching to make a catch
Speaker 1: here their surprise of people. You dropped one to night too.
Speaker 1: He sure did, MBS. I've never seen a guy get
Speaker 1: a six yard completion and turn it into a four
Speaker 1: law four yard loss like nbfdding like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just gotta go down. You just got to
Speaker 3: go down. You just gotta go down once once you
Speaker 3: that first that for you gotta finy that first tackle,
Speaker 3: and once you feel your body, you haven't to treating
Speaker 3: it retreating it's nowhere to go. Just go ahead, go
Speaker 3: ahead and go down. Don't lose no yards.
Speaker 1: You not a j Brown bro, You like a buck
Speaker 1: saty five. So a guy's spending you around where you
Speaker 1: think you going right. But like you said, sometimes you
Speaker 1: gotta know when the journey's over. And everybody in my
Speaker 1: homes like, what do we what was?
Speaker 3: What do we do?
Speaker 2: What is that? You see, CJ.
Speaker 1: You see the depens on the sidelight, like what damn
Speaker 1: how we had a six yard completion and it turned
Speaker 1: it into a four yard loss.
Speaker 2: They looking like they're like, yeah, what.
Speaker 3: They was over there? There was they were able to
Speaker 3: overcome it. They were able to overcome it. God damn
Speaker 3: that man, special man. Godly people don't realize it.
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, Oh Joe, if you play in
Speaker 1: the city and your quarterback is good, you want him
Speaker 1: to be on mahomes level right right right, And you're like,
Speaker 1: well what he did well my quarterback beating was But
Speaker 1: how many times did he beat him when it mattered?
Speaker 1: Think about that. Look at this this man, this man
Speaker 1: goes into your building. This was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: year everybody said I want home field. Buffalo said, we
Speaker 1: want Mahomee to come to us because the last time,
Speaker 1: the last couple of times that we played in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: we had to go to Arrowhead in Buffalo. They didn't
Speaker 1: make a difference. Lamar had everything. He had a coach,
Speaker 1: Todd Mounkin, we had. You know, you got Odell, you
Speaker 1: got Bateman, you got a Za Flowers, you got likely
Speaker 1: who playing unbelievable filling in for Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2: Ye didn't matter.
Speaker 1: This is the difference, Ojo, What this is when you
Speaker 1: heard me say this? The mark of any great team
Speaker 1: a unit. Can you get done what you have to
Speaker 1: get done when you absolutely.
Speaker 3: Have to have it it? Yeah, got it.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get they got got forty eight. Dropped on
Speaker 1: them a deal. Hey, we need to get off the
Speaker 1: field on third down and you can't get off the field.
Speaker 1: Mahome was needed the field goal. What did he do
Speaker 1: with Joe? He took his team down and he got
Speaker 1: a field goal. Mahome needed to one up what brock
Speaker 1: Perty had done and went and got a touchdown. He
Speaker 1: went and got it. That's how you described greatness, not
Speaker 1: going and get forty Well he's going forty eight. He
Speaker 1: had five touchdown three hundred yards. He had this when
Speaker 1: he needed it, could.
Speaker 3: He get yeah?
Speaker 2: Go ahead? Yeah.
Speaker 3: The funny The funny thing is we talked about about party.
Speaker 3: Perdy played a good game. He would twenty he was
Speaker 3: twenty three, thirty eight, he had two fifty five and
Speaker 3: the TV. He had a good game. Hell, McCaffrey had
Speaker 3: a good game. Are you it was good? Jennings Obviously
Speaker 3: was was decent. We needed more Kittle, We needed more debo.
Speaker 1: If they wanted to have eleven targets for three catchers
Speaker 1: for thirty three.
Speaker 3: Yards, you got to you gotta make tho. You gotta
Speaker 3: make those plays. You got to make those plays. You
Speaker 3: gotta make those those throws. There were some throws that
Speaker 3: Purdy needed to make the change of dynamic of that game.
Speaker 3: Because the game, obviously, it's the game inches. It's a
Speaker 3: game of inches, and every play and every throw matter.
Speaker 1: So if we're gonna say so, that means Nick Foles
Speaker 1: is the go so because everybody keep saying, what Brady
Speaker 1: beat my homes when it mattered, So so did Eli
Speaker 1: man beat him? So if Eli manning the goat, you
Speaker 1: see how ridiculous that argument is, and Nick Foles beat
Speaker 1: him a guy that was a journeyman.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So Mahomes lost the Super Bowl to Tom Brady. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady lost the journeyman a journeyman.
Speaker 2: Nick Boles and Joe Flacco beat him in the playoffs twice.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So what are we doing here? What's your eye test?
Speaker 3: To you?
Speaker 2: In situation like this?
Speaker 1: Look and people, how about how about do it like this?
Speaker 1: O Joe Tom Brady. I still believe Tom is the go.
Speaker 1: But you're out your mind and you're lying if you're
Speaker 1: saying at the exact same age, Tom Brady was better
Speaker 1: than or the equivalent of Patrick Mahomes, There's no way
Speaker 1: you can say it. There's absolutely no way you can
Speaker 1: say Tom Brady was the equivalent of Patrick Mahomes at
Speaker 1: the exact same age, right, because Tom had no regular
Speaker 1: season MVPs none zero. Tom had no regular season MVPs
Speaker 1: none zero. He had no five thousand yard passing season,
Speaker 1: no fifty touchdown passing season.
Speaker 2: So what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: You said, well, wait, okay, Patrick Mahons got three, he's
Speaker 1: three for three, he won three super Bowl and he's
Speaker 1: the super Bowl MVP in all three. Brady didn't do that.
Speaker 1: He had two regular season MVPs, Brady had none. He
Speaker 1: had two five thousand yard passing season, Brady had none.
Speaker 1: He had a fifty touchdown passing season. Brady had none. Now,
Speaker 1: Brady would later go on to have a fifty touchdown
Speaker 1: passing season. He would go on to later have a
Speaker 1: five yard passing season. But at the where we are
Speaker 1: right now, O Joe were here, we're right here, Brady
Speaker 1: didn't have these accolades. Right now, we're gonna see. It's
Speaker 1: gonna take if Mahomes can stay healthy. Because the one
Speaker 1: thing you can say about Brady, Brady stayed relatively healthy
Speaker 1: over his twenty three year over his twenty three year career,
Speaker 1: except that one season two thousand and eight, he got
Speaker 1: hurt in the first game. He missed the entirety of
Speaker 1: the season. But other than that, Ojo, the one thing
Speaker 1: you can count on, if you played the Patriots, you
Speaker 1: gonna see twelve try the lands out there talking about
Speaker 1: let's go, let's have it go.
Speaker 2: You knew that.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't man I wont to twelve gona play today.
Speaker 1: Man I saw him on the injury report. There are
Speaker 1: certain people. When you saw him want the injury report,
Speaker 1: then you know he played.
Speaker 3: Yes, a number of smoking mirrorge That's.
Speaker 2: That's all it was.
Speaker 1: But it's a great debate that we're gonna have, and
Speaker 1: it's not gonna go away because we've never ever in
Speaker 1: the history of the game seen a quarterback this hood,
Speaker 1: this early, this complete, because we've maybe let's just say, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe he had the passing, but he didn't have the
Speaker 1: hardware and the super bowls. Brady had super Bowls, but
Speaker 1: he didn't have the regular season accolades. And they said, well,
Speaker 1: because Peyton, they killed Peyton. Bro oh Joe, but you
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm trying to you.
Speaker 2: Was in the league.
Speaker 1: You came in the league a what two thousand, two
Speaker 1: thousand and one, two thousand, came in two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: But anyway, uh.
Speaker 3: For real, yeah, for real? Oh my bad, I don't remember.
Speaker 3: They killed Peyton. Yeah, yeah, listen, oh Joe.
Speaker 1: They obliterated Peyton. They call him mister regular season. He
Speaker 1: couldn't win the big game.
Speaker 2: Now, when we.
Speaker 1: Hold the same standard, whoa shutner? You at there? Buck dancing?
Speaker 1: You out there shooking the driving you went to ESPN.
Speaker 1: I said, no, I thought we held our great players
Speaker 1: to the same standard, right, if the standard is the standard,
Speaker 1: why should we lord for somebody that we like?
Speaker 3: Why are we doing that? On Joe?
Speaker 2: Is that what we do?
Speaker 3: Listen if you and I tell you all the time,
Speaker 3: the goldposts always move, depending on who you're talking about,
Speaker 3: always it will. They will always do that. They will
Speaker 3: find a reason of their find excuses so they they
Speaker 3: find they use numbers, They manipulate the situation for the
Speaker 3: individuals that you're talking about. People do it all the time,
Speaker 3: whether it's basketball, basketball, football, hell, hockey, any any sport.
Speaker 3: When it comes to somebody you like, they gonna find
Speaker 3: a way.
Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to figure out who you gonna say.
Speaker 3: What's your drinking now that what's your drinking water? Oh okay, okay, but.
Speaker 2: If if you want to see what type of water
Speaker 2: that is?
Speaker 1: Somebody will have to pay for that, Old Joe, ain't
Speaker 1: nothing free but salvation and REVERENDI Jimmys Wagger Joelo's thing,
Speaker 1: kreplo dollar they charged for that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2: You know I'm ana become old minister, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, O Joe, Yeah, yeah, you know you know.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 2: Don't put change in the collection plate? God don't like noise.
Speaker 3: Only paper.
Speaker 2: That's what you don't change. Make nose. God don't like knowing, right.
Speaker 3: I like that. He like peaceful.
Speaker 2: He's like a quiet right.
Speaker 3: I'm still in that. Oh godly, that game was good.
Speaker 2: I need a water man, O Joe, Yes, sir, are
Speaker 2: you gonna run me my money? What are you fun?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: You owe me four hundred dollars? Keep betting on Cadarius.
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa? Hold on now, hold on, hold on
Speaker 3: the time. Now, come on, now, you just making up stuff. Now.
Speaker 2: You didn't tell me he's gonna be active. I told
Speaker 2: you he wasn't you said he was.
Speaker 3: We didn't bet on him being active. I just said
Speaker 3: he was going to be active because I don't have
Speaker 3: an energy for it out We don't know if already he.
Speaker 1: Could be one percent healthy. He can get out there
Speaker 1: and before today he can run full three. He ain't
Speaker 1: getting on that field. Oh Jo, you know oo? You
Speaker 1: know how superstitious coaches are? You going on winning streak?
Speaker 1: Do they change anything if you go on winning streak and.
Speaker 2: Then go ahead?
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking as I'm just thinking as a coach.
Speaker 3: You know, a game like this I want again I
Speaker 3: want all hands on deck. I want every weapon possible.
Speaker 3: With the creativity we can having everybody available. With the
Speaker 3: creativity that Andy Reid has, you can do more. You can,
Speaker 3: you can do more. And I know what Cadarius tone
Speaker 3: he can do with the ball in his hands. And
Speaker 3: I understood that team. Come see, oh Joe, what you want?
Speaker 3: You say, pull the tape.
Speaker 1: If I pull the tape, ou from Cadaria's toone, tell
Speaker 1: the people at home didn't get an opportunity.
Speaker 3: But you know I can. I can also pull the
Speaker 3: tape of him being very elusive, ability be separate. This
Speaker 3: ship is small, and he got some place out there.
Speaker 3: He got some nice places, man, he got some.
Speaker 2: Do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, listen, you know bad players on everybody
Speaker 3: this Sunday. We can find some good ones.
Speaker 2: It's Sunday.
Speaker 3: Oo noda Monday Sunday.
Speaker 2: No, no nice Sunday. It's Sunday.
Speaker 3: Still, it's twelve sixteen, it's Monday.
Speaker 2: If you if you, if you let that is where
Speaker 2: you are you in Vegas?
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm on East. Got get that?
Speaker 2: What time?
Speaker 3: You I'm on East? I don't live here.
Speaker 2: You there.
Speaker 3: I'm glad they wont know. Man, I'm glad they won. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was a good that was a good game.
Speaker 1: Ship Kelsey was mom after the game about bump and
Speaker 1: reed trap. I'm gonna keep that between us unless my mic,
Speaker 1: if my mic up tells the world.
Speaker 3: I was just no, no, he was miked up. He
Speaker 3: was maked up. You know, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3: I get we get a list of all the players
Speaker 3: that were miked up for you.
Speaker 2: Boy, probably check O c j uh sneed mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you right now. I'm gonna tell you right now who
Speaker 3: was miked up, so I'll be able to I mean,
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't share it with everybody because that that stuff,
Speaker 3: that stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You want to it's gonna, it's gonna If they're gonna
Speaker 1: put that, they'll put that in the uh you know
Speaker 1: when they do. They released the Super Bowl Edition in
Speaker 1: the prom it you guys might you guys might have
Speaker 1: it Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Oh they got it.
Speaker 3: They got it. Yeah, they got it, they got it.
Speaker 3: I'll let you know. I'll let you know what it
Speaker 3: was said.
Speaker 2: What was said? Yeah, what team is?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: The question is we got a question for and we
Speaker 2: got it up in the chat.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What team is most standing in the way of case
Speaker 1: three p The Ravens, team, the forty nine Ers, the Bills,
Speaker 1: we them boys, you know, we them boys went from
Speaker 1: we them boys?
Speaker 2: Do we need more boys?
Speaker 1: But anyway, my guess is the Kansas City. I'm going
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. They're the most standing in their way.
Speaker 2: Well and in whose way of the Chiefs of three
Speaker 2: p D.
Speaker 1: What team the Ravens, the forty nine Ers, the Bills,
Speaker 1: or the Cowboys are most standing in the way of
Speaker 1: the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Now, when I think about the team, the teams that
Speaker 3: are standing in the way of the Chiefs, that I
Speaker 3: think I would stay with the AFC. I would stay
Speaker 3: with the AFC. Obviously a healthy Joe Burrow in the Bengals, uh. Again,
Speaker 3: the Ravens, the Ravens as well with Lamar Jackson are
Speaker 3: very dangerous. Again, you got to think Jim Harbor over
Speaker 3: there trying to change the culture with the goddamn Chargers
Speaker 3: right justin Herbert. If he can get he would get
Speaker 3: if he can get them, you know, on the right track.
Speaker 3: They are also coming out the a f C back
Speaker 3: that can cause an issue. The Dolphins. I'm throwing it.
Speaker 3: I'm just throwing it out here, that's all. Yeah, I mean, listen,
Speaker 3: this is the AFC. You know what. You know what
Speaker 3: other AFC where all the quarterbacks are right, you know that.
Speaker 2: You know what happened.
Speaker 1: If you thought if it's windy outside, your poop up
Speaker 1: in there, you know it's gonna blow back in your face.
Speaker 1: Now you're just throwing out you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm just throwing out names of teams, teams that played
Speaker 3: well this year defensively.
Speaker 1: What team is most standing in the way? You gotta believe,
Speaker 1: not just naming teams, who do you believes most standing
Speaker 1: in the way?
Speaker 2: Challenge?
Speaker 1: Yes, the gift that presents the best opportunity. Who give
Speaker 1: them the opportunity that you say, you know what, that's
Speaker 1: the team that's standing in the way that's gonna keep
Speaker 1: kat from three B In the AFCRO.
Speaker 2: You can pick the Ravens, say the.
Speaker 3: Bang Bengals, Bangalan Bengals, Ravens, Bills, Bengals, Raving, Ravens, Bills, uh.
Speaker 1: The chat said Ravens forty two percent, forty nine Ers
Speaker 1: twenty two percent, the Bills twelve percent, The Cowboys twenty
Speaker 1: four percent.
Speaker 2: God damn, the Cowboys really to Dallas.
Speaker 1: I'ma move to Dallas, and I'm gonna open up your
Speaker 1: store because I can sell the Cowboy fans any damn thing.
Speaker 2: I can sell it. Anything. I I can sell them,
Speaker 2: dear poop and tell them it's perfume all the bottle. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got.
Speaker 3: You gotta believe in your team. Though, as a fan,
Speaker 3: you gotta believe in your team, nor.
Speaker 2: You ain't borrow.
Speaker 1: You hadn't won two playoff games in the same season
Speaker 1: since ninety five. At some point time, y'all got stop believing.
Speaker 1: The more day I told you they did, like they'd
Speaker 1: be dead. Hey boy, you know you know your old
Speaker 1: bago come pickure thinking against a wide creed. You know
Speaker 1: you old bag will take you or take you to
Speaker 1: the park.
Speaker 3: Wait, but the Lions hadn't been to the playoffs and
Speaker 3: win a playoff game in thirty two thirty five years though, right,
Speaker 3: so we Hald.
Speaker 2: So we hauling the Lions in the Cowboys to the
Speaker 2: same standy, that's what we do it.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you never know, so this might do.
Speaker 3: This might be the here for the Cowboys. You never know.
Speaker 3: You keep saying that, I'm saying, I'm just saying I
Speaker 3: keep saying that. But if a certain someone chooses not
Speaker 3: to steal a spotlight and let the team and the
Speaker 3: coach and do their goddamn job.
Speaker 1: Okay, you never know that might happen. What you think,
Speaker 1: what's the likelihood of that happened? You wish that would happen,
Speaker 1: don't you?
Speaker 3: Not good? Because soon as soon as I mentioned it,
Speaker 3: she was he would make a head lives already and
Speaker 3: they're not even in the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: See Joe, you you you you just wish they would
Speaker 2: go a certain way.
Speaker 3: I would, I would. You want to see change. Listen,
Speaker 3: When you want to see change, When you want to
Speaker 3: see change, you want to see results. That means you
Speaker 3: have to change up what you're doing. You got to
Speaker 3: change up what you're doing. You got to change your routine.
Speaker 3: And that's what that is. That the definition of insanity.
Speaker 3: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over
Speaker 3: and over and over and over and expecting different results.
Speaker 2: When it starts with you, I'm just oh, I just
Speaker 2: don't uh lamar. When is second MVP?
Speaker 3: MVP? Yep?
Speaker 1: But at what point in time do we start holding
Speaker 1: him accountable and says that's under chieving. You got the
Speaker 1: best you had the best defense, you had the best
Speaker 1: op you had the best rushing attack, you had the
Speaker 1: best set of receivers that you've had since you've been
Speaker 1: in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: And you were one vote. I don't know who that was.
Speaker 1: It took that boat away from you because you were
Speaker 1: He was one way fow away Ojoe from being a
Speaker 1: two time unanimous MVP, and he had the AFC Championship
Speaker 1: game and he had the guy. Because the one thing
Speaker 1: we know about Patrick Mahomes, he's a big game hunter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some people me, I'm a short fisherman. I stand on
Speaker 1: the bank, throw my ride out there. I catch a
Speaker 1: little fish. I ain't gonna hey, I can't catch no.
Speaker 1: I can't catch get.
Speaker 3: No, Marlin.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is a big game hunter. He's going hunting
Speaker 1: for Kate Buffalo, that's what he's going to do. Ain't
Speaker 1: going pheasant hunting right now. A lot of these guys
Speaker 1: doing pheasant hunting and quail hunting and dove hunting and calling.
Speaker 2: That big game.
Speaker 3: Nah.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes got pelts on his walls. And I know
Speaker 1: Peter don't want to hear me talk about that. But
Speaker 1: y'all at home, y'all get an understanding of what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. Now some point in time, Ojo ain't know
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be he's gonna have to catch
Speaker 1: the NBP and turn him into footbawl. Yeah, God, you
Speaker 1: keep well, he only twenty six. Mahomes is only twenty
Speaker 1: How was Patrick mahone twenty seven?
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty nine? Nine?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Twenty eight?
Speaker 3: Man, that's it, twenty eight. Imagine what if he played
Speaker 3: all the way to forty five? Like bro, I mean,
Speaker 3: listen with the rule, with the rut, the way the
Speaker 3: rules are. Now, Oh that's possible, that's on it.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Oh, Joe, Okay, you played plate
Speaker 2: So he's right now.
Speaker 1: So right now he's twenty eight, right, that means he's
Speaker 1: if he plays the forty five, that's another seventeen years.
Speaker 2: May you think Andy reefin to coach another seventeen years?
Speaker 2: You know what? No, so we are we saying.
Speaker 1: And then if it'd be on the sideline and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be ground up cheeseburgers by.
Speaker 3: That point, listen, even if it's not, Even if it's
Speaker 3: not Andy, it's Patrick Mahons is still Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sixty five.
Speaker 1: So you think that man gonna be wrong with the
Speaker 1: sidelines of eighty three? What are you gonna be on
Speaker 1: a motor scooter? Somebody gonna be putting in the week.
Speaker 3: Okay, you say, Andy, sixty five? Right, Well, Pete Carroll
Speaker 3: was seventy seven. Really, I'm just saying, I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: if you want to keep on winning.
Speaker 1: But if you look at Pete, Pete is so energized,
Speaker 1: Pete rob rob running up and down the field and
Speaker 1: everything like that, jogging, Yeah that ain't. That ain't and
Speaker 1: his demeanor. Now, I'm not saying, could I see him
Speaker 1: coaching another five years? Absolutely the seventy without even blinking
Speaker 1: or not not someone, No, I can see him. I
Speaker 1: can see him coaching another five Yeah, okay, okay, right,
Speaker 1: And that puts Patrick Mahome at thirty three. Stude for
Speaker 1: in another five years, would we be surprised? In five
Speaker 1: years if the Chiefs hasn't haven't won another two Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: We're probably gonna be disappointed if they don't shocked, because
Speaker 1: there's more likely, more probable than not, that they're gonna
Speaker 1: go to at least two more Super Bowls in the
Speaker 1: next five years based.
Speaker 2: On just that guy, Like you said that guy, that guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you draft, you draft right, free agency, you
Speaker 3: know everybody gonna want to come play there. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a possibility, but you.
Speaker 1: Got to make sure. But you got to make sure
Speaker 1: you show sure up keep the some core guys, because
Speaker 1: Chris Jones Howell is CJ. CJ can't be that old
Speaker 1: house CJ. He was disrupted. He didn't sack the quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he's very disrupted, very up CJ.
Speaker 2: Twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Howell sneed Steve gotta be like twenty nine. Also, right,
Speaker 1: I think he might be younger. He's twenty seven. Hold on,
Speaker 1: they might have the young one of the youngest defense
Speaker 1: because look at the safety.
Speaker 3: Say what to say?
Speaker 2: I mean McDuffie, McDuffie, the All Pro corner.
Speaker 3: He's on even the year, second, the third year.
Speaker 1: Damn yes, coloptus, colopidus, he's like twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 2: They're young, Ojoe. Their defense is really really young and brilliant.
Speaker 1: Good yeah, and probably their second best offensive lineman on
Speaker 1: whether you like Creed Humphrey or not.
Speaker 2: Joe Totey was out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they keep they keep this and they keep them
Speaker 3: the core guys together draft. Well, where can get scary
Speaker 3: over there?
Speaker 2: Still?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it's gonna be Look all them MVPs,
Speaker 1: the the people and guess what, Ojoe. You remember even
Speaker 1: when even when Peyton Manny had all them MVP they
Speaker 1: were still he can't win them, even after he won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So remember he won it and then
Speaker 1: came back lost to New Orleans and they said he
Speaker 1: couldn't win the big game game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna listen every time, they're gonna move them
Speaker 3: go post.
Speaker 1: Now. Chiefs are the youngest team defensively in the NFL.
Speaker 1: NFL and they just went back to back Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: don't you that fair.
Speaker 3: Bunch of baby bunch of babies. Oh listen, you know
Speaker 3: how I feel. You know they got that man over
Speaker 3: there on offense, the same thing ready, the same thingy
Speaker 3: did in Kansas City. But Brick give bread Beach credit.
Speaker 3: Those guys. Those guys did an unbelievable job that he does,
Speaker 3: an unbelievable job of getting the right pieces.
Speaker 1: Obviously, they let Patrick Mahomes have input as far as
Speaker 1: the offensive receivers.
Speaker 2: Like receivers or tight.
Speaker 3: Ends and things like that.
Speaker 1: He has an input. He knows what he likes throwing to.
Speaker 1: They know what they want. But he's like, I kind
Speaker 1: of like this guy. This guy can make tough catches.
Speaker 1: Uh got a big catch radius, nice run after the
Speaker 1: catch because she Rice is not a big guy, but
Speaker 1: he has tremendous run.
Speaker 3: After the catch the catch.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, And when you play in this style of offense,
Speaker 1: O Joe, you got to have that because it's not
Speaker 1: like they pushed them ball. They don't have tyreek, so
Speaker 1: they can't push the ball over the top of their
Speaker 1: head down a lot. Now they're surprising not ant catch
Speaker 1: you snapping yeah and go over your head with MBS
Speaker 1: or something like that. But for most part, everything is
Speaker 1: going to probably somewhere around twelve fifteen, another fifteen. A
Speaker 1: lot of bubble screens, a lot of smoke screens, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff like that. So guys need to
Speaker 1: be able to run after the catch. How much of
Speaker 1: this lost falls on Kyle shanhand Ojoe?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, what could kind of done better? I
Speaker 3: mean he called a good game. He called a good game.
Speaker 3: The execution offensively and the throws that perty needed to
Speaker 3: make He didn't make them. They were in position, they
Speaker 3: were in position to win the game. They were Think
Speaker 3: about it. You go to overtime. You didn't make many mistakes.
Speaker 3: Her didn't have any interceptions. McCaffrey did have a fumble. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there were no points out of that. I mean both
Speaker 3: both both fumbles on both teams. There were no points
Speaker 3: out of that. So that that kind of ex exes
Speaker 3: everything out. Oh that was that?
Speaker 2: Do we put this?
Speaker 3: Do we put this one on Shanahan? Even though it's
Speaker 3: his third time going and losing the head coach, the
Speaker 3: other time as a head coach, third time as a coordinator.
Speaker 3: But he's been there three times? Is it really his fault?
Speaker 3: Look where you're going again?
Speaker 2: But I think the thing is what people have said.
Speaker 1: You had a twenty eight three league, You had a
Speaker 1: ten point lead and a ten point lead, and you
Speaker 1: lost two games in overtime and you lost one.
Speaker 2: You end up losing one thirty eleven points.
Speaker 1: Right. I think that's stuff and seem for me my
Speaker 1: big I said, hold on, wait a minute. Look at
Speaker 1: Jordan Love looked against that team. Look at Jory Golf
Speaker 1: looked at team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Neither one of them could have if I gave him
Speaker 1: the Hubble telescope. They couldn't see Patrick Mahomes right right,
Speaker 1: So I said, if you give him that kind of time,
Speaker 1: I mean, thirty four forty six, three thirty three to
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, He's of Steve man easty. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: running out of words to describe him, because I'm old
Speaker 1: enough to remember a lot of the greats, and I
Speaker 1: saw a lot of them play. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: in the league when Joe played, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I know Joe and Steve and Peyton. I was
Speaker 1: in the league when Peyton played. I mean and Brady.
Speaker 1: I never thought Brady would be this because I played him.
Speaker 1: I played him twice, beat him in O two in
Speaker 1: their place coming off the Super Bowl. They came back
Speaker 1: and beat us in OH three, or he threw a
Speaker 1: last second touchdown pass with like twenty seconds on the clock.
Speaker 2: I thought he was good. I did. I thought he
Speaker 2: was really really good. But I didn't see this. I
Speaker 2: didn't see this.
Speaker 3: I mean that that losing as a coordinator, losing losing
Speaker 3: twenty eighty three when we have a lead like that,
Speaker 3: that's that's just.
Speaker 1: That's with the sad Ojo. If you go back and
Speaker 1: look at Patrick Mahon's losses, you gotta play it. If
Speaker 1: you look at Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow with the arrowhead,
Speaker 1: he outplayed it. You go to the Super Bowl, Brady
Speaker 1: out played it. You can say when he lost five
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, Brady still, I played it now the only
Speaker 1: game Brady that Brady just got the ball last.
Speaker 3: But Patrick mahons.
Speaker 1: You go back to look at Patrick Mahank's first AFC
Speaker 1: Championship game and the numbers.
Speaker 2: I mean, he damnar had four hundred yards passing. He
Speaker 2: was sensational.
Speaker 1: They were down like fourteen nothing at the blink of
Speaker 1: an eye, and he gave him the lead. And then
Speaker 1: he came back and got him in field goal position
Speaker 1: with like thirty six seconds and then Brady got the ball.
Speaker 1: Brady won the coin toss. They go down the field.
Speaker 1: But more time than not. If you go if you
Speaker 1: beat Patrick mahone the Kansas City Chiefs, your quarterback, I
Speaker 1: played Patrick Mahans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to. You have to.
Speaker 3: That's the only way you're gonna get it done.
Speaker 1: And you can say, well the quarterback ain't no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, But but it is your quarterback is
Speaker 1: have to match it, because if he don't, you can't
Speaker 1: beat it.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to match him or supersede what he's doing,
Speaker 2: or you can't beat him. Ojoe.
Speaker 1: It's it's really that simple. I mean, he's getting to it.
Speaker 1: He's he's he's top five. I don't think, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think. There's no debate.
Speaker 4: Top five all time, yes, oh yes, all time? That
Speaker 4: bad yeah, top number one, yeah, and he's one, and
Speaker 4: then now the gap between one and two, so he
Speaker 4: right here, and then there's two. Whoever you want to
Speaker 4: put it to. You want to put Lamar, you want
Speaker 4: to put Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, if you put all three
Speaker 1: of them together, you would need to put all three
Speaker 1: of them together. And I'm still sure. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that's still the equivalent of him, right because, O Joe,
Speaker 1: you say you want regular season wins, you say you
Speaker 1: want postseason wins. You say you want accolades in the
Speaker 1: regular season. You say you want accolades in the post season.
Speaker 1: Off season. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes, wont
Speaker 1: man he got a complete resume. There's no holes in
Speaker 1: his resume. He has no holes in his resume. No,
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, he got created, he got perfect created.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's really no argument. And you know, you know
Speaker 3: what we're gonna hear sometime this week, somebody gonna have
Speaker 3: something to say, Somebody going to find something. They're going
Speaker 3: to They're going to nitpick and find some way to
Speaker 3: discredit what he's done so far in such an early
Speaker 3: early point in his career.
Speaker 2: What's your take.
Speaker 3: I just don't know. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 3: what it is.
Speaker 1: What's your take on what's your take on party? Did
Speaker 1: he prove he's a top quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 3: I think so. I think so again again, I think
Speaker 3: he proved he was the top quarterback in the NFL. Obviously,
Speaker 3: what he did coming back against the Lions down seventeen
Speaker 3: that second half, he played miraculous football today. He played
Speaker 3: mistake free football this There were a few throws that
Speaker 3: he should have been able to make. I think that
Speaker 3: would have changed the games. Yeah, hit him and Debo
Speaker 3: and I think did miss on that whips pressure yep.
Speaker 3: But other than that, he played. He played a good
Speaker 3: game today. He played a good game today, even though
Speaker 3: they lost. I think this is a great confidence builder
Speaker 3: for him. Again, he does the supporting cast he has
Speaker 3: around him is spectacular. Can you still play that same
Speaker 3: mistake free football without the elite players around you? I
Speaker 3: think he. I think he probably can do it. But
Speaker 3: what I saw from Rock Rock today was really, really,
Speaker 3: really good football. But again he was going against that
Speaker 3: juggernaut that we call my homeboy.
Speaker 2: Though. But let me ask you a question. Did he
Speaker 2: prove he's elite? Because that was no, No, he's not.
Speaker 3: He's not elite. Come on, let's not do that. Let's
Speaker 3: not do that. He's a good quarterback. He's a good
Speaker 3: quarterback that is really good and situate, situate, playing situational
Speaker 3: football and not making mistakes. But elite, Let's don't. Let's
Speaker 3: come on now, come on, come on. I don't do that.
Speaker 1: I said it because I said it earlier, because everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to say he was elite after he beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He said, no, he's not. I said, sometimes you could
Speaker 1: have a you could have a great game, you can
Speaker 1: have a great season, but that doesn't make you elite.
Speaker 1: You got to do we understand? Do we understand what
Speaker 1: elite looks like?
Speaker 3: Look, we know what it looks. We look, we look,
Speaker 3: we know what looks like to night? Yes, you know
Speaker 3: and living color. Yes.
Speaker 1: When you see guys like a Brady, when you see
Speaker 1: guys like Manning, you see guys like Elwere, you see
Speaker 1: guys like Montana, you see guys like that, that's what
Speaker 1: the least look like. When you look at a Branshaw,
Speaker 1: you look at those guys.
Speaker 3: Did a year any out consistently? That's that's what it is,
Speaker 3: not a one.
Speaker 1: Oh well, bro, come on now, I think look, at
Speaker 1: some point in time we gotta stop looking.
Speaker 2: Well, but sing what you bro? Bro?
Speaker 1: You' here now? So I come into the league. I
Speaker 1: was a seventh pick, and I was a seventh round pick,
Speaker 1: one ninety two. So if I say, well, I don't
Speaker 1: get no better? Or with Shannon, you know a coach,
Speaker 1: I was one ninety two. Coach, what you expecting out
Speaker 1: of me? You can't you can't keep using Oh Shannon,
Speaker 1: he was the last pick in the draft. With damn ay,
Speaker 1: we're paying you, and you about the command you about
Speaker 1: to command and deserved and earned a big payday. And
Speaker 1: you let me ask you a question. If I gave
Speaker 1: Patrick mahone the forty nine of talent. I guarantee you
Speaker 1: they three if I gave him killing if I gave
Speaker 1: him are you if I gave him Christian McCaffrey with.
Speaker 2: That all three.
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Man? They might they ain't losing.
Speaker 1: If I let's just say, if I losing, if I flipping,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna flipp it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna do, o Joe.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Patrick Mahon and I'm gonna put him
Speaker 1: on the forty nine ers, and I'm gonna take Rock
Speaker 1: Party and put him on Kansas City.
Speaker 2: So where you think Kansas City going with Rock Party?
Speaker 3: Listen, Rock Brockers is good. They were efficient. But if
Speaker 3: you if you switch it and you put Mahomes on
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, it deep there. They would have
Speaker 3: scored forty five tonight. Man, they would have scored for
Speaker 3: satur tonight because listen, Shanahan would be in a position where,
Speaker 3: you know what, I just want to put the game
Speaker 3: on my home shoulders and just let him be surgical
Speaker 3: out there. They could They could throw the ball sixty
Speaker 3: five times and my home will make a mistake with
Speaker 3: that offense. Man, She that that that'd be, that'd be
Speaker 3: a sight to see, boy, that'd be a sight to see.
Speaker 3: Not saying that is not saying that Brocket is not
Speaker 3: good with him, because he is good with him. But
Speaker 3: I don't think they asked him to do that much
Speaker 3: because of the talent he has around.
Speaker 1: Just get in their hands and let them work. He
Speaker 1: made some big time throws. I thought that bore down
Speaker 1: throw the kittle. There was a third down throw the
Speaker 1: Jennings that he made. There's a couple of big time
Speaker 1: throws that you need to see. That out that that
Speaker 1: out that out the kittles. Yes, four down that ball.
Speaker 1: That ball placement is important. You know if you leave
Speaker 1: if you leave that behind a little bit, you know
Speaker 1: where it's going.
Speaker 2: Huh to the house.
Speaker 3: Oh that's going to the house the other way.
Speaker 2: Yes, very very important.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Booked up so I'm glad he had reservations from six
Speaker 1: and they were all riving at the same time, because
Speaker 1: you know, you want to show up at the same time.
Speaker 2: They were arriving at the same time.