WEBVTT - Love Actually with Debra DiGiovanni 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.360 On the be Dol Cast, the questions asked if movies 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:07.000 have women in um, are all their discussions just boyfriends 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:11.200 and husbands, or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:16.400 and best start changing it with the Bedel Cast. Hi, 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.160 welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Jamie Loftus, 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.720 my name is Caitlin Durante. And this is the Okay, 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:31.080 Caleb start to dope queens. Oh no, that's crap, we 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:35.440 funked up. It's okay, let's stop. No, this is great, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.360 this is gold. We're keeping it. Our podcast is about 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.479 the portrayal of female characters in movies. That's true, and 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.280 that's why we call it the Bechtel Test. We just 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.920 had a long discussion if we should keep introducing what 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.280 the Bechtel Test is, and we decided no, no, We're 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:54.840 We're done. Aristotle are the man of the operation. He's 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.279 usually just tied to his chair, but he also does 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.200 an amazing job. We took the ball gug out of 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.679 his mouth right and he's like, well, he made a suggestion. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.240 He gets to say one sentence every time they see him. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.399 And he made the great recommendation that if you don't 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.720 know what it is. Just go back to the first 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.800 episode and listen. And in the time it took me 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.360 to say that, we could have just told you what 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.920 it was. Well, nobody's perfect. It's almost Christmas, it's Chris 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.959 it is. It's a Mike's Hard Lemonade day for me, Jamie, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.039 I've had a really Christmas e day. Is Mike's Hard 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.440 Lemonade a Christmas e? No, this is a coping mechanism, 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.880 I see. But I spent all day chasing around mall 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.840 Santa's for my job, and none of them wanted to 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:43.320 talk to me except South Central Santa, who really gave 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.240 me a lot of things I need to think about. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.880 That's great. No, it's a disgrace with my life and time. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.600 It sounds like you're doing very interesting things. Who else 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.040 today in America or anywhere in the world being cont 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.960 and here the only one. Well, here's my Mike's Hard Lemonade. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:09.000 To that, without much further ado, I say, we introduce 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.120 our wonderful guests. Hey, let's do it. She is a 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:18.079 comedian and a very wonderful person. I'm so happy. Oh yeah, 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:25.799 we love you so much. Debra. We're good. What is 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.480 your job? What do you what. So I write for 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.920 news outlet called Inverse, and I'm They're like, only West 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.600 Coast writer. They let me sort of do whatever, and 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.320 they were like, Jammian, we think would be really fun 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.640 if you talk to a lot of mall Santa's. And 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.280 I wasn't anticipating so many hoops to jump through to 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.639 talk to them. All there's a ton they don't want 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.880 to talk to you. I left it my apartment at 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:54.200 eight this morning and I went to Glendale. Both the 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.280 Santa said fuck off. No, I went to South Central 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.160 that Santa would talk to me. I went to the 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.560 Grove they said fun would say come on. They even 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.600 offered me like a really embarrassing consolation price. They're like, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.519 you can take a picture with the gingerbread man. Now, 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.840 you guys fuck off. And then I tried to hit 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.320 up to Beverly Hills Santa's, who were assholes. And then 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.760 I have to go to Santa Monica after this if 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.960 my person is also going to be an ass like 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:23.520 I'm going to drive all that way and he's gonna 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.880 tell me to funk off. Trouble is like malls are 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.040 always in these like elitist neighborhoods, and they're like these 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:35.440 rich It's true, it's true. Yeah, malls are night little dicks, 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.200 It's true. But the South Central Santa was nice to you, right, 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.560 he was awesome. Yeah, if you're listening to this, maybe 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.119 check it out. It will be on in first dot com. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.120 And I had a great conversation with him. He's the 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:53.320 first black mall Santa ever. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. So anyways, anyways, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:59.160 that's what said about. Now, No, we're here to talk 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:04.120 about the movie love. Actually, oh no, I feel like 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:09.640 we're going to get in trouble. Yeah, people love this movie. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:14.880 Like this was my first time watching. Okay, I have 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:16.919 avoided I don't know why I've avoided it, but I 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.920 have because it's a piece of shit. Makes me. PU said, 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.440 I used to love this movie. Me too. I remember 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.840 the first time watching and I love this movie. And 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.760 on every successive watch I hate it more and more. Kids, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.240 And like I was trying to put myself in like 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.000 what if I watched this when it came out, and 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.520 I think I would have loved it. I love a 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.800 good one because I loved I love vignettes, love it. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.880 But what year was it done to me? I didn't 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.200 even check two. Okay, so a long time ago, but 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.120 I have no excuse. I was not young, you know 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.560 what I mean. I feel like I was eleven, No, no, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.080 with a grown woman. I was. It was reason enough 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.960 that it's like I was like, we're thinking that different, 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.920 That's what I mean. It's not like three. We could 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.200 give it a bit of a pass. But now no 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.520 sor it too recent for it to be this bad. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.720 Oh my god. I had a lot of problems, but 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:17.960 I was also like sort of horny. The home confusing. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.360 How do we launch into this, like with our rage 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.279 against Yeah, this is a tough one. We usually start 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:29.400 by doing just a very brief overview of the story, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.920 of which there are around trillion Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:37.000 so yeah, this movie is full of just little micro stories. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:42.000 It's a bunch of vignettes, sort of tidy wedding and 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:47.560 Harry poorly poorly connected like in the most unbelievable ways. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.400 But anyway, tell like whenever this was like mapped out 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.000 in a room, like there's just a bunch of dudes 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:58.600 jerking off. Yeah, they so hard after this, like what 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.279 we make and Thompson and Hugh Grant brother and sister, 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.880 but never mentioned it until the very end, I mean 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.480 some Chronicles of Narnia ship. Yeah, no, And then I 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:11.720 was like at the end, I was like, was that 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.920 supposed to be a twist? Like and they're like, look 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.440 at this big reveal. It's like, no one gives a ship. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.200 He was like, Oh, this movie was bad. So each 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.160 of these storylines depicts like a separate relationship because this 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.680 movie is about love, love actually. It's even like man 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:36.200 splaining in the title, isn't it actually actually love actually? 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.839 So each of these stories really, they're all so dumb 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.120 and they're they're focusing on a specific relationship, most of 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.280 them romantic, but not all of them. The first one 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.920 we see is Bill Nigh, whose name is Billy Mac. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.560 He's trying to make a comeback as a musician. His 0:06:55.680 --> 0:07:00.560 manager is his friend, so there's that storyline. They're friends. Yeah, No, 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.440 we love Bill Knight. We've said this before. Didn't give you, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.760 we we forgive you, and we love you all the 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:07.800 same because he is, oh Night, He's made a lot 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:15.240 of missteps, still him, he's oh yeah, yeah, he's um. Yeah, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.800 he's in the worst movie I've ever seen, which is 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:22.480 I Frankenstein Star. He's the villain and it looks like 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:27.120 he was not briefed on what the movie sinister and 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.480 then he leave, but he plays a gargoyle overlord. I 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:35.040 want it's also the weird octopus villain from Pirates of 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.520 the Caribbean. Oh yeah, he isn't forgot Okay, Because I 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.080 was wondering, I was like, did he and Kiera Knightley 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.680 already know each other because of the whole octopus guy things? 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.120 Maybe not think this movie came first? Okay? So they 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.480 were like, oh love actually on the set of Party cool. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:57.120 Another storyline we get Colin Firth's character Jamie. I want 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:01.360 to say, uh Jamie, Look isn't Jamie? Oh yeah, he 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:08.720 luncle Jamie. He falls in love with Portuguese woman. No, 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:15.560 I'm sorry, but we'll get to a second. He gets 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:21.000 cuckolded by his brother, so that's another storyline. Liam Neeson 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.000 is sad about his dead wife and then he accepts 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.280 on who is in love with a girl at school. Yeah. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:32.800 I've never hated a child more than that child. Next 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:37.199 storyline is Emma Thompson. I forget her character's name. She 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:45.680 is in a relationship with Alan Rickman. He assistant throws 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.920 herself at him and then he like kind of strays 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.000 a little bit. That's a storyline. There's the ugly guy 0:08:52.200 --> 0:09:02.240 who wants to bang the American ladies. There's the porn standard. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.000 Oh my god, I almost blocked that part out almost, 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.760 Oh god, And that's such a shame because we love him, 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.400 Martin Freeman. This, I feel like this was the big 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.439 very beginning, and like he really needed the money for this. Okay, 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.040 let's give him the benefit of the But that said, 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.640 I feel like I could have written that storyline like 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.559 in like a ninth grade short story, like wouldn't it 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.480 be wild? Yeah? And then you get expelled from school? 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:31.920 But right, and then I make actually love yeah okay, 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:43.839 the holidays okay, very atheist okay. Uh. Then we have 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.840 the walking dead guy and he's in love with Pure 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.240 Knightley even though she's married to his best friend. His 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.880 best friend. Yeah, but then it's still like, isn't this romantic? No, 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:04.040 it's horrible per worded. Yeah, that video I can't even Okay, 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.880 there's more stories? Is there one more? There's the Prime Minister, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.959 I mean, perfect casting. How could Hugh Grant not be 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:17.760 playing the pri and he falls in love with I 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.240 don't know if she's an intern, she gets that's what 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:25.120 we know. She brings some biscuits, but also sometimes important files. 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:30.160 I don't know, we've all had that job. And finally 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.720 Laura Lenny who's in love with I don't know if 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:39.400 he's Italian, I'm not sure. And his name is Carl, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:46.680 a hot barign man named You couldn't even given us 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.480 a Carlos at the very last, but you Carlo, Carl 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.199 Carl car so many letters to work with. Yeah, that's it. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:02.040 So those are the you know, that's a different story lines, Hubris, 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.120 That's what I think about this. But I like, let's 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:11.080 lead with the concept of an ensemble movie is so great, 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:15.240 but I feel like it's so rarely works. Su I 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.400 think it's tough. I think it's tough because this is 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.840 this is huge, This is like this is a whole bunch, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:25.520 Like all the British stars are in this, you know, honestly, Yeah, seriously, Yeah, Yeah, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.160 it's it's tricky and again like the vignettes also tricky, 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.240 and there's a lot, there's too many, like it's just 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.959 nine or ten. Is just it's a lot to try 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.599 to interweave. Yes, is probably yes, Yeah, but this is 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.800 so now. Okay, basically, I think you get by now 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.679 that we really hate this movie. I think that is 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.839 you know, you've picked up on that unless you're you know, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:52.320 troubled um. But the movie itself is you know, every 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.960 every single one, they're just it's just deplorable. It's awful. 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.640 But then when you go back, because I knew the 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.079 right away, I was like, this is gonna be fun 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.000 to talk about because it's so awful. But then when 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:05.400 you actually focus on the female characters, it made it 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.160 like double horrible. Like I just I literally felt sick 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.640 for a moment when you really go back and and 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.719 just figure out every So let's let's start from the 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.160 beginning and just talk about the women, how they're portrayed 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:22.200 in this it's so awful. Number one Okay, so well, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.679 there's no female characters in the Bill Night storyline. And 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:29.920 on Calin Firth and Aurelia. Yeah, first of all, he 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.840 is cu colded by his by his brother and his wife. Right, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.760 so um, but I have just the thing that drives 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.599 me insane. I already even just you know, everyone we 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.120 call every cock and that's a new word in our 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.719 life now. I find it interesting that men even just 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.720 get a word for when they're cheated on. Do women 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.200 get a word for when we're cheated on? We don't. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.680 Basically that he was cuckolded and women, it's like it's 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.280 it's a part of life, like that's basically you know 0:12:56.280 --> 0:13:00.240 what I mean. Boys get a special word because they 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.120 were cuckled, but no, we just live with it. We 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:11.160 call you're exactly right, right, fine, I know you know 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.120 that doesn't It's just it's always that's always irked me 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.840 that it's like, oh, dudes get a word for anyway whatever? Um, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.520 but y yea and God forbid a man be cheated on? 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.439 Oh no, So he gets cheated on right away and 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:30.880 then goes to his cottage or something. Yeah, And and 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.200 there's um yeah, and there's a cleaning woman. I guess 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.839 the maid. Who is she? And she doesn't speak a 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:43.559 word of English deeply on a level where like none 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.920 of us have experienced in our lives yet, you know, 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.320 and they don't but they don't speak the same language 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.520 at all, which is me neither. I didn't like it 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.599 at all. This that I have in front of me 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.400 describes it as in spite of the fact that neither 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.160 of them speak the same language, their personnel. These are similar. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.280 That's the problem. Because there are so many different storylines 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.160 and so many characters, there's not enough time to develop 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.120 anyone characters fair enough. Characters are under developed, and then 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.880 just the depiction of love and romantic love and relationships 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.960 is very glossed over because everything that's portrayed as very 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:26.240 surface level, and usually the character's relationships are based on 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.600 like a physical attraction rather than so like, yeah, they 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.520 were hot, that would have been fair. Like if they 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:32.880 would have just like you know what I mean, it 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.760 would just been a hot weekend of passion, fund right. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:37.840 I think we all would have accepted that and been like, 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.920 all right, but no, But then they get married and 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.120 proposed stories like if that had just ended with like 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.920 he learned some Portuguese and as yeah, I would have 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:52.160 been like, that's actually very sweet, where he finds the 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.480 will to love again and then just moves on with 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:59.000 his life. No longer cook because yeah, because this story 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.280 takes place over the course of five weeks, so in 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.560 that time he manages to write a novel because it 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.480 only takes five weeks. I don't know. If you fall 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.800 in love and propose Mary, that's not too effort cook. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.840 That's a free official work for a cook. And you 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.160 know what, we love calling Firth week you know, lovely, 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.960 he always you know, he's great, but this is you know, 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.440 they're just it's just too quick. You know. The whole 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:28.880 of the whole thing is that no one gets to 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.320 stretch the legs, no one gets to really you know, 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:35.920 be worthwhile in any capacity in this movie. So he's 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:41.800 just stuttering king exactly exactly you've seen. That really drives 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.480 me nuts in this storyline is where all of his 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.280 papers fly into the little pond and she just strips 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.760 down for no reason and jumps in the water, and 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.280 like the way the camera like lingers on her body 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.480 and pans up and down. Very gross. But the thing 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.440 I kept trying to put my head in, like what 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:03.840 if I saw this when it came out, because I 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.160 would have been eleven when this game out? Oh did 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:11.080 I not say eleven? Did I say? It's like I 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.600 think that if I had seen that scene, like you know, 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.480 when you're younger, I would have interpreted like, oh so 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:22.520 that's what you do. Yeah, someone's papers, a veritable stranger's 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.360 papers about I would have taken it as gospel like 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.120 the nice time someone drops something, I'm just gonna strip 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.080 new like and which is gross. And the way it 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.600 was like like the way that they pan her body 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.160 and just like come and really like would you you 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.040 have to save your your maids out for it from 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.880 getting wet? I mean seriously, like I would maybe take 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:43.800 off my shoes in my watch, but other than that, 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.720 I'm you know, you keep everything. He could get it, yes, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.560 exactly yea, and he could be yeah, he can type 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:56.880 on a laptop and save it. Yes. And what I 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.800 really hated I hated the when they go to the 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.160 her family's restaurant and then the way they like they 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.879 pick the other sister against her and she's the gross sister. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.600 I hated it so much. It was just I found 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.320 that part just like, oh, is this the comic relief 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.960 part where there's a un attractive one that should marry 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.880 for Oh, it's just there's I made notes of all 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:23.720 the times that women are reduced to nothing more than 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.359 either how attractive they are or what they look like, 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.320 and there are dozen't of course. Yeah, there's one instance 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.719 in this storyline where Aurelia's father is talking to her 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.560 other her sister and he calls her like miss Duncan 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.240 Donuts two thou or two thousand three because she's a 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.720 heavier woman. And it's just like that's like a Donald 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.560 Trump comic, frustrating, and there's tons of those. Were like, 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:54.640 I'm sorry anyway. Also, um Natalie, who is the love 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:59.520 interest of the gods, her father also calls her tubby 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.280 or bee. That's her And if that woman is fat, 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.040 like sign me up, Like are you kidding me? There 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.080 is nothing fat about her. She's a perfect hour glass 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.520 and she's gorgeous, and they they talk about her thighs 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:19.159 the entire character anyway, Yeah, disgusting. So has that happens 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.560 a lot. Women are just like they're either like objectified 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:27.439 or like deeply disappointed. That's all I get. That's all 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.000 I get. Okay, what's the next one after after Uncle 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:35.240 Jamie liam Neeson slash his stepson. Yeah, you know, I 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.359 will say the only okay, there was only two scenes 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.720 in this entire movie still that maybe kind of go okay. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.280 Three in the beginning when they're at the funeral and 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.840 he plays her her favorite song, and that's still the 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.320 only part that I was like because and that's just 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.840 that's a lovely look, but that's it. But that is all. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.240 And then Liam turns into a pitiful excuse of a 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.960 man and doesn't know how to relate to a child, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.400 which I guess I understan dand but the whole thing 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.000 is just it's just contrived and awful. And that child, 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:09.159 oh god, he's just yeah, and how old was he 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.199 supposed to be and madly in love with I think 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.119 a girl much older than him. She seemed she did 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.639 see the way out of his story, out of his 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.840 leg and that's yeah, exactly supposed to be eleven and 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.600 she was like seventeen easy but there's no way, and 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.120 and just super duper out of his league whatever developed, Yeah, 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.879 very much and really beautiful. And then learning the drums 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.680 to who the whole thing is about him trying to 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.520 snag a girl even though like he just he never 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.919 even just spoke to her, but never even even at 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.200 that young age, like it was like he never even 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.680 say I guess think for Uncle James Portuguese is the 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:52.040 adult equivalent yeah, yeah, yeah, which again he was able 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.000 to do in two weeks. Yea, all it takes to 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.800 learn the drums. I can't believe. I can't believe none 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:00.560 of us have written a novel or learned to play 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:02.919 the drums. Wow, we've been talking like, I'm disgusted with us. 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:10.199 Where is our Maybe it's like in the matrix when 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:15.920 you can just like plug in and three. It would 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:20.000 be like a floppy disk I missed. I found a 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.080 bunch of floppy disks in my house when I was 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.080 visiting home in the most recent time. I was like, 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:31.240 we'll just never know. There's a line of dialogue I wrote, 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.920 also wrote down my favorite lines of dialogue. So as 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:39.680 Liam Neeson is lamenting about his dead wife, Emma Thompson 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.440 says to him, how how how are they related? Again, 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:50.960 they don't specify. Okay, okay. He starts crying and she says, 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.560 get a grip. People hate sissies. No one is going 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.440 to shag you if you cry all the time, which 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:01.800 is like, what now the good message for the kids? Yeah, 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:05.160 he's like pouring his heart out to her. Her response 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.760 is just like to perpetuate this like idea of like 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.520 the word masculinity, and it wor to be like a 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:16.159 funny moment. It's just like I'll only fucking man if 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:20.280 he's crying. Yeah, that's my power give you something to 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:26.760 cry with me. Yeah, it's like you want to cry. 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:37.479 Actually one time promised tears. But even the words sissy, 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:42.120 it's like really like it's suddenly it's all. It's just yeah, 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.639 it's it's ochaic and ridiculous. Anyway, I forgot about that, 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.920 Like I glossed over that, Like I don't even think 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.600 I even heard that. The second it is like yeah, 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.639 because and his wife is barely cold and dead in 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.080 the ground, and like it's been twenty minutes, and they're like, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.920 you should be fine, king already. What Jesus give him 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.760 a minute, you know. Anyway, and that's another very male 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.680 thing of like you got to get back out. They're 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:12.600 like women, they're like, we're black for a year exactly. 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.760 You have to cover your face, yea. So okay, are 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.000 we say that the whole movie is five weeks? Because 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.200 that's fair, all right. So then at the end two 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.480 of his vignette, he meets Claudia Schiffer. Of course he does, um, yes, 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:29.480 because that makes perfect sense. Um because she's the mother 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:36.240 of the of the beautiful, the teacher or something. Yeah. 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.960 And so then at five weeks of mourning the loss 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:44.480 of his wife, he's ready for Claudia. Sure, I mean 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.000 I guess who knew, I get who wouldn't be Let's 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:55.399 be honest. Anyway, Yeah, the next early on two, by 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:59.800 the way, that really I think unbelievable. Okay, the next 0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:03.960 one is Emma Thompson. Again I don't remember. Okay, me neither, 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.159 but I will say again we'll do a little you know. 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:10.600 I love Emma Thompson usually and thank you, and we 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:14.959 love of course Alan Rickman as well. Uh, this one 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.959 it's they're seeing there is repugnant as well. But at 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.320 the same time, I don't know, like they just they 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.000 may just because I like the both of them, they 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.280 felt the least disgusting to me. Um, but I mean, 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.800 you know the his stories of course, the beautiful young 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.360 chippy at the office, she's just like so slutty. It's ridiculous, 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.440 Like it's just the kind of behavior that like at 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.600 the office. Really with the sitting with the legs apart, 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:44.560 it's like, whoa, I mean, it's just it's ridiculous. That 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:52.520 reminded me of Margot Robbie in Yes, Yeah, and also 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:58.520 what's the movie with Sharon Yes, Yes, I mean ridiculous 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.480 And this is at the office Okay, the whole story 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:02.840 is is that, you know, obviously he's been married to 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:04.879 Emma Thompson for a while, they have children, you know, 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.479 they're a regular couple. And then he is tempted by 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:12.760 this the young hot girl, the psychopath, it's going to say, 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.879 who will clearly go through your trash and never leave 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.960 you alone. Um, but he falls, you know, he likes 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:21.159 but we nothing, nothing happens between the two of them. 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.280 He buys her a present that should have been for 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.600 you know, she thinks it's the wife thinks it's for her, 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.080 it's not. It's jewelry. And he then he gets her 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:31.280 Joni Mitchell c d's, which, let's be honest, you know whatever, 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.879 and it kind of sucks. But so nothing but he 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:37.320 but he does think about it, obviously, and that's enough 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.520 for her. Now I'm going to say this, this is 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.280 really like you don't go to therapy or try to 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.560 work it out. He thinks of another woman, and you're done, 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.600 yes or no? Are we like? That seems to be 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.280