Speaker 1: On the be Dol Cast, the questions asked if movies
Speaker 1: have women in um, are all their discussions just boyfriends
Speaker 1: and husbands, or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef
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Speaker 1: welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Jamie Loftus,
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Speaker 1: the portrayal of female characters in movies. That's true, and
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Speaker 1: I see. But I spent all day chasing around mall
Speaker 1: Santa's for my job, and none of them wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to me except South Central Santa, who really gave
Speaker 1: me a lot of things I need to think about.
Speaker 1: That's great. No, it's a disgrace with my life and time.
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Speaker 1: comedian and a very wonderful person. I'm so happy. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we love you so much. Debra. We're good. What is
Speaker 1: your job? What do you what. So I write for
Speaker 1: news outlet called Inverse, and I'm They're like, only West
Speaker 1: Coast writer. They let me sort of do whatever, and
Speaker 1: they were like, Jammian, we think would be really fun
Speaker 1: if you talk to a lot of mall Santa's. And
Speaker 1: I wasn't anticipating so many hoops to jump through to
Speaker 1: talk to them. All there's a ton they don't want
Speaker 1: to talk to you. I left it my apartment at
Speaker 1: eight this morning and I went to Glendale. Both the
Speaker 1: Santa said fuck off. No, I went to South Central
Speaker 1: that Santa would talk to me. I went to the
Speaker 1: Grove they said fun would say come on. They even
Speaker 1: offered me like a really embarrassing consolation price. They're like,
Speaker 1: you can take a picture with the gingerbread man. Now,
Speaker 1: you guys fuck off. And then I tried to hit
Speaker 1: up to Beverly Hills Santa's, who were assholes. And then
Speaker 1: I have to go to Santa Monica after this if
Speaker 1: my person is also going to be an ass like
Speaker 1: I'm going to drive all that way and he's gonna
Speaker 1: tell me to funk off. Trouble is like malls are
Speaker 1: always in these like elitist neighborhoods, and they're like these
Speaker 1: rich It's true, it's true. Yeah, malls are night little dicks,
Speaker 1: It's true. But the South Central Santa was nice to you, right,
Speaker 1: he was awesome. Yeah, if you're listening to this, maybe
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Speaker 1: And I had a great conversation with him. He's the
Speaker 1: first black mall Santa ever. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. So anyways, anyways,
Speaker 1: that's what said about. Now, No, we're here to talk
Speaker 1: about the movie love. Actually, oh no, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're going to get in trouble. Yeah, people love this movie.
Speaker 1: Like this was my first time watching. Okay, I have
Speaker 1: avoided I don't know why I've avoided it, but I
Speaker 1: have because it's a piece of shit. Makes me. PU said,
Speaker 1: I used to love this movie. Me too. I remember
Speaker 1: the first time watching and I love this movie. And
Speaker 1: on every successive watch I hate it more and more. Kids,
Speaker 1: And like I was trying to put myself in like
Speaker 1: what if I watched this when it came out, and
Speaker 1: I think I would have loved it. I love a
Speaker 1: good one because I loved I love vignettes, love it.
Speaker 1: But what year was it done to me? I didn't
Speaker 1: even check two. Okay, so a long time ago, but
Speaker 1: I have no excuse. I was not young, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I feel like I was eleven, No, no,
Speaker 1: with a grown woman. I was. It was reason enough
Speaker 1: that it's like I was like, we're thinking that different,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It's not like three. We could
Speaker 1: give it a bit of a pass. But now no
Speaker 1: sor it too recent for it to be this bad.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I had a lot of problems, but
Speaker 1: I was also like sort of horny. The home confusing.
Speaker 1: How do we launch into this, like with our rage
Speaker 1: against Yeah, this is a tough one. We usually start
Speaker 1: by doing just a very brief overview of the story,
Speaker 1: of which there are around trillion Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, this movie is full of just little micro stories.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of vignettes, sort of tidy wedding and
Speaker 1: Harry poorly poorly connected like in the most unbelievable ways.
Speaker 1: But anyway, tell like whenever this was like mapped out
Speaker 1: in a room, like there's just a bunch of dudes
Speaker 1: jerking off. Yeah, they so hard after this, like what
Speaker 1: we make and Thompson and Hugh Grant brother and sister,
Speaker 1: but never mentioned it until the very end, I mean
Speaker 1: some Chronicles of Narnia ship. Yeah, no, And then I
Speaker 1: was like at the end, I was like, was that
Speaker 1: supposed to be a twist? Like and they're like, look
Speaker 1: at this big reveal. It's like, no one gives a ship.
Speaker 1: He was like, Oh, this movie was bad. So each
Speaker 1: of these storylines depicts like a separate relationship because this
Speaker 1: movie is about love, love actually. It's even like man
Speaker 1: splaining in the title, isn't it actually actually love actually?
Speaker 1: So each of these stories really, they're all so dumb
Speaker 1: and they're they're focusing on a specific relationship, most of
Speaker 1: them romantic, but not all of them. The first one
Speaker 1: we see is Bill Nigh, whose name is Billy Mac.
Speaker 1: He's trying to make a comeback as a musician. His
Speaker 1: manager is his friend, so there's that storyline. They're friends. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: we love Bill Knight. We've said this before. Didn't give you,
Speaker 1: we we forgive you, and we love you all the
Speaker 1: same because he is, oh Night, He's made a lot
Speaker 1: of missteps, still him, he's oh yeah, yeah, he's um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's in the worst movie I've ever seen, which is
Speaker 1: I Frankenstein Star. He's the villain and it looks like
Speaker 1: he was not briefed on what the movie sinister and
Speaker 1: then he leave, but he plays a gargoyle overlord. I
Speaker 1: want it's also the weird octopus villain from Pirates of
Speaker 1: the Caribbean. Oh yeah, he isn't forgot Okay, Because I
Speaker 1: was wondering, I was like, did he and Kiera Knightley
Speaker 1: already know each other because of the whole octopus guy things?
Speaker 1: Maybe not think this movie came first? Okay? So they
Speaker 1: were like, oh love actually on the set of Party cool.
Speaker 1: Another storyline we get Colin Firth's character Jamie. I want
Speaker 1: to say, uh Jamie, Look isn't Jamie? Oh yeah, he
Speaker 1: luncle Jamie. He falls in love with Portuguese woman. No,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but we'll get to a second. He gets
Speaker 1: cuckolded by his brother, so that's another storyline. Liam Neeson
Speaker 1: is sad about his dead wife and then he accepts
Speaker 1: on who is in love with a girl at school. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've never hated a child more than that child. Next
Speaker 1: storyline is Emma Thompson. I forget her character's name. She
Speaker 1: is in a relationship with Alan Rickman. He assistant throws
Speaker 1: herself at him and then he like kind of strays
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's a storyline. There's the ugly guy
Speaker 1: who wants to bang the American ladies. There's the porn standard.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I almost blocked that part out almost,
Speaker 1: Oh god, And that's such a shame because we love him,
Speaker 1: Martin Freeman. This, I feel like this was the big
Speaker 1: very beginning, and like he really needed the money for this. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's give him the benefit of the But that said,
Speaker 1: I feel like I could have written that storyline like
Speaker 1: in like a ninth grade short story, like wouldn't it
Speaker 1: be wild? Yeah? And then you get expelled from school?
Speaker 1: But right, and then I make actually love yeah okay,
Speaker 1: the holidays okay, very atheist okay. Uh. Then we have
Speaker 1: the walking dead guy and he's in love with Pure
Speaker 1: Knightley even though she's married to his best friend. His
Speaker 1: best friend. Yeah, but then it's still like, isn't this romantic? No,
Speaker 1: it's horrible per worded. Yeah, that video I can't even Okay,
Speaker 1: there's more stories? Is there one more? There's the Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: I mean, perfect casting. How could Hugh Grant not be
Speaker 1: playing the pri and he falls in love with I
Speaker 1: don't know if she's an intern, she gets that's what
Speaker 1: we know. She brings some biscuits, but also sometimes important files.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we've all had that job. And finally
Speaker 1: Laura Lenny who's in love with I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's Italian, I'm not sure. And his name is Carl,
Speaker 1: a hot barign man named You couldn't even given us
Speaker 1: a Carlos at the very last, but you Carlo, Carl
Speaker 1: Carl car so many letters to work with. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: So those are the you know, that's a different story lines, Hubris,
Speaker 1: That's what I think about this. But I like, let's
Speaker 1: lead with the concept of an ensemble movie is so great,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's so rarely works. Su I
Speaker 1: think it's tough. I think it's tough because this is
Speaker 1: this is huge, This is like this is a whole bunch,
Speaker 1: Like all the British stars are in this, you know, honestly, Yeah, seriously, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's tricky and again like the vignettes also tricky,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot, there's too many, like it's just
Speaker 1: nine or ten. Is just it's a lot to try
Speaker 1: to interweave. Yes, is probably yes, Yeah, but this is
Speaker 1: so now. Okay, basically, I think you get by now
Speaker 1: that we really hate this movie. I think that is
Speaker 1: you know, you've picked up on that unless you're you know,
Speaker 1: troubled um. But the movie itself is you know, every
Speaker 1: every single one, they're just it's just deplorable. It's awful.
Speaker 1: But then when you go back, because I knew the
Speaker 1: right away, I was like, this is gonna be fun
Speaker 1: to talk about because it's so awful. But then when
Speaker 1: you actually focus on the female characters, it made it
Speaker 1: like double horrible. Like I just I literally felt sick
Speaker 1: for a moment when you really go back and and
Speaker 1: just figure out every So let's let's start from the
Speaker 1: beginning and just talk about the women, how they're portrayed
Speaker 1: in this it's so awful. Number one Okay, so well,
Speaker 1: there's no female characters in the Bill Night storyline. And
Speaker 1: on Calin Firth and Aurelia. Yeah, first of all, he
Speaker 1: is cu colded by his by his brother and his wife. Right,
Speaker 1: so um, but I have just the thing that drives
Speaker 1: me insane. I already even just you know, everyone we
Speaker 1: call every cock and that's a new word in our
Speaker 1: life now. I find it interesting that men even just
Speaker 1: get a word for when they're cheated on. Do women
Speaker 1: get a word for when we're cheated on? We don't.
Speaker 1: Basically that he was cuckolded and women, it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's a part of life, like that's basically you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Boys get a special word because they
Speaker 1: were cuckled, but no, we just live with it. We
Speaker 1: call you're exactly right, right, fine, I know you know
Speaker 1: that doesn't It's just it's always that's always irked me
Speaker 1: that it's like, oh, dudes get a word for anyway whatever? Um,
Speaker 1: but y yea and God forbid a man be cheated on?
Speaker 1: Oh no, So he gets cheated on right away and
Speaker 1: then goes to his cottage or something. Yeah, And and
Speaker 1: there's um yeah, and there's a cleaning woman. I guess
Speaker 1: the maid. Who is she? And she doesn't speak a
Speaker 1: word of English deeply on a level where like none
Speaker 1: of us have experienced in our lives yet, you know,
Speaker 1: and they don't but they don't speak the same language
Speaker 1: at all, which is me neither. I didn't like it
Speaker 1: at all. This that I have in front of me
Speaker 1: describes it as in spite of the fact that neither
Speaker 1: of them speak the same language, their personnel. These are similar.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Because there are so many different storylines
Speaker 1: and so many characters, there's not enough time to develop
Speaker 1: anyone characters fair enough. Characters are under developed, and then
Speaker 1: just the depiction of love and romantic love and relationships
Speaker 1: is very glossed over because everything that's portrayed as very
Speaker 1: surface level, and usually the character's relationships are based on
Speaker 1: like a physical attraction rather than so like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: were hot, that would have been fair. Like if they
Speaker 1: would have just like you know what I mean, it
Speaker 1: would just been a hot weekend of passion, fund right.
Speaker 1: I think we all would have accepted that and been like,
Speaker 1: all right, but no, But then they get married and
Speaker 1: proposed stories like if that had just ended with like
Speaker 1: he learned some Portuguese and as yeah, I would have
Speaker 1: been like, that's actually very sweet, where he finds the
Speaker 1: will to love again and then just moves on with
Speaker 1: his life. No longer cook because yeah, because this story
Speaker 1: takes place over the course of five weeks, so in
Speaker 1: that time he manages to write a novel because it
Speaker 1: only takes five weeks. I don't know. If you fall
Speaker 1: in love and propose Mary, that's not too effort cook.
Speaker 1: That's a free official work for a cook. And you
Speaker 1: know what, we love calling Firth week you know, lovely,
Speaker 1: he always you know, he's great, but this is you know,
Speaker 1: they're just it's just too quick. You know. The whole
Speaker 1: of the whole thing is that no one gets to
Speaker 1: stretch the legs, no one gets to really you know,
Speaker 1: be worthwhile in any capacity in this movie. So he's
Speaker 1: just stuttering king exactly exactly you've seen. That really drives
Speaker 1: me nuts in this storyline is where all of his
Speaker 1: papers fly into the little pond and she just strips
Speaker 1: down for no reason and jumps in the water, and
Speaker 1: like the way the camera like lingers on her body
Speaker 1: and pans up and down. Very gross. But the thing
Speaker 1: I kept trying to put my head in, like what
Speaker 1: if I saw this when it came out, because I
Speaker 1: would have been eleven when this game out? Oh did
Speaker 1: I not say eleven? Did I say? It's like I
Speaker 1: think that if I had seen that scene, like you know,
Speaker 1: when you're younger, I would have interpreted like, oh so
Speaker 1: that's what you do. Yeah, someone's papers, a veritable stranger's
Speaker 1: papers about I would have taken it as gospel like
Speaker 1: the nice time someone drops something, I'm just gonna strip
Speaker 1: new like and which is gross. And the way it
Speaker 1: was like like the way that they pan her body
Speaker 1: and just like come and really like would you you
Speaker 1: have to save your your maids out for it from
Speaker 1: getting wet? I mean seriously, like I would maybe take
Speaker 1: off my shoes in my watch, but other than that,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, you keep everything. He could get it, yes,
Speaker 1: exactly yea, and he could be yeah, he can type
Speaker 1: on a laptop and save it. Yes. And what I
Speaker 1: really hated I hated the when they go to the
Speaker 1: her family's restaurant and then the way they like they
Speaker 1: pick the other sister against her and she's the gross sister.
Speaker 1: I hated it so much. It was just I found
Speaker 1: that part just like, oh, is this the comic relief
Speaker 1: part where there's a un attractive one that should marry
Speaker 1: for Oh, it's just there's I made notes of all
Speaker 1: the times that women are reduced to nothing more than
Speaker 1: either how attractive they are or what they look like,
Speaker 1: and there are dozen't of course. Yeah, there's one instance
Speaker 1: in this storyline where Aurelia's father is talking to her
Speaker 1: other her sister and he calls her like miss Duncan
Speaker 1: Donuts two thou or two thousand three because she's a
Speaker 1: heavier woman. And it's just like that's like a Donald
Speaker 1: Trump comic, frustrating, and there's tons of those. Were like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry anyway. Also, um Natalie, who is the love
Speaker 1: interest of the gods, her father also calls her tubby
Speaker 1: or bee. That's her And if that woman is fat,
Speaker 1: like sign me up, Like are you kidding me? There
Speaker 1: is nothing fat about her. She's a perfect hour glass
Speaker 1: and she's gorgeous, and they they talk about her thighs
Speaker 1: the entire character anyway, Yeah, disgusting. So has that happens
Speaker 1: a lot. Women are just like they're either like objectified
Speaker 1: or like deeply disappointed. That's all I get. That's all
Speaker 1: I get. Okay, what's the next one after after Uncle
Speaker 1: Jamie liam Neeson slash his stepson. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: will say the only okay, there was only two scenes
Speaker 1: in this entire movie still that maybe kind of go okay.
Speaker 1: Three in the beginning when they're at the funeral and
Speaker 1: he plays her her favorite song, and that's still the
Speaker 1: only part that I was like because and that's just
Speaker 1: that's a lovely look, but that's it. But that is all.
Speaker 1: And then Liam turns into a pitiful excuse of a
Speaker 1: man and doesn't know how to relate to a child,
Speaker 1: which I guess I understan dand but the whole thing
Speaker 1: is just it's just contrived and awful. And that child,
Speaker 1: oh god, he's just yeah, and how old was he
Speaker 1: supposed to be and madly in love with I think
Speaker 1: a girl much older than him. She seemed she did
Speaker 1: see the way out of his story, out of his
Speaker 1: leg and that's yeah, exactly supposed to be eleven and
Speaker 1: she was like seventeen easy but there's no way, and
Speaker 1: and just super duper out of his league whatever developed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: very much and really beautiful. And then learning the drums
Speaker 1: to who the whole thing is about him trying to
Speaker 1: snag a girl even though like he just he never
Speaker 1: even just spoke to her, but never even even at
Speaker 1: that young age, like it was like he never even
Speaker 1: say I guess think for Uncle James Portuguese is the
Speaker 1: adult equivalent yeah, yeah, yeah, which again he was able
Speaker 1: to do in two weeks. Yea, all it takes to
Speaker 1: learn the drums. I can't believe. I can't believe none
Speaker 1: of us have written a novel or learned to play
Speaker 1: the drums. Wow, we've been talking like, I'm disgusted with us.
Speaker 1: Where is our Maybe it's like in the matrix when
Speaker 1: you can just like plug in and three. It would
Speaker 1: be like a floppy disk I missed. I found a
Speaker 1: bunch of floppy disks in my house when I was
Speaker 1: visiting home in the most recent time. I was like,
Speaker 1: we'll just never know. There's a line of dialogue I wrote,
Speaker 1: also wrote down my favorite lines of dialogue. So as
Speaker 1: Liam Neeson is lamenting about his dead wife, Emma Thompson
Speaker 1: says to him, how how how are they related? Again,
Speaker 1: they don't specify. Okay, okay. He starts crying and she says,
Speaker 1: get a grip. People hate sissies. No one is going
Speaker 1: to shag you if you cry all the time, which
Speaker 1: is like, what now the good message for the kids? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like pouring his heart out to her. Her response
Speaker 1: is just like to perpetuate this like idea of like
Speaker 1: the word masculinity, and it wor to be like a
Speaker 1: funny moment. It's just like I'll only fucking man if
Speaker 1: he's crying. Yeah, that's my power give you something to
Speaker 1: cry with me. Yeah, it's like you want to cry.
Speaker 1: Actually one time promised tears. But even the words sissy,
Speaker 1: it's like really like it's suddenly it's all. It's just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's ochaic and ridiculous. Anyway, I forgot about that,
Speaker 1: Like I glossed over that, Like I don't even think
Speaker 1: I even heard that. The second it is like yeah,
Speaker 1: because and his wife is barely cold and dead in
Speaker 1: the ground, and like it's been twenty minutes, and they're like,
Speaker 1: you should be fine, king already. What Jesus give him
Speaker 1: a minute, you know. Anyway, and that's another very male
Speaker 1: thing of like you got to get back out. They're
Speaker 1: like women, they're like, we're black for a year exactly.
Speaker 1: You have to cover your face, yea. So okay, are
Speaker 1: we say that the whole movie is five weeks? Because
Speaker 1: that's fair, all right. So then at the end two
Speaker 1: of his vignette, he meets Claudia Schiffer. Of course he does, um, yes,
Speaker 1: because that makes perfect sense. Um because she's the mother
Speaker 1: of the of the beautiful, the teacher or something. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so then at five weeks of mourning the loss
Speaker 1: of his wife, he's ready for Claudia. Sure, I mean
Speaker 1: I guess who knew, I get who wouldn't be Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. Anyway, Yeah, the next early on two, by
Speaker 1: the way, that really I think unbelievable. Okay, the next
Speaker 1: one is Emma Thompson. Again I don't remember. Okay, me neither,
Speaker 1: but I will say again we'll do a little you know.
Speaker 1: I love Emma Thompson usually and thank you, and we
Speaker 1: love of course Alan Rickman as well. Uh, this one
Speaker 1: it's they're seeing there is repugnant as well. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I don't know, like they just they
Speaker 1: may just because I like the both of them, they
Speaker 1: felt the least disgusting to me. Um, but I mean,
Speaker 1: you know the his stories of course, the beautiful young
Speaker 1: chippy at the office, she's just like so slutty. It's ridiculous,
Speaker 1: Like it's just the kind of behavior that like at
Speaker 1: the office. Really with the sitting with the legs apart,
Speaker 1: it's like, whoa, I mean, it's just it's ridiculous. That
Speaker 1: reminded me of Margot Robbie in Yes, Yeah, and also
Speaker 1: what's the movie with Sharon Yes, Yes, I mean ridiculous
Speaker 1: And this is at the office Okay, the whole story
Speaker 1: is is that, you know, obviously he's been married to
Speaker 1: Emma Thompson for a while, they have children, you know,
Speaker 1: they're a regular couple. And then he is tempted by
Speaker 1: this the young hot girl, the psychopath, it's going to say,
Speaker 1: who will clearly go through your trash and never leave
Speaker 1: you alone. Um, but he falls, you know, he likes
Speaker 1: but we nothing, nothing happens between the two of them.
Speaker 1: He buys her a present that should have been for
Speaker 1: you know, she thinks it's the wife thinks it's for her,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's jewelry. And he then he gets her
Speaker 1: Joni Mitchell c d's, which, let's be honest, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: and it kind of sucks. But so nothing but he
Speaker 1: but he does think about it, obviously, and that's enough
Speaker 1: for her. Now I'm going to say this, this is
Speaker 1: really like you don't go to therapy or try to
Speaker 1: work it out. He thinks of another woman, and you're done,
Speaker 1: yes or no? Are we like? That seems to be
Speaker 1: a bit impetuous. I mean, yes, okay, that was a
Speaker 1: mental emotional cheat. But I would maybe we have kids,
Speaker 1: I would maybe think about it. I mean, I would
Speaker 1: go for some therapy and then figure it out. No, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, No, I think she has an appropriate reaction
Speaker 1: with just to be just be upset when she comes up.
Speaker 1: But then yes, she pretty really readily just ye oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean she she's broken. And I will say again,
Speaker 1: Emma Thompson is a fabulous crier. She just did. She's
Speaker 1: a good crier. And the scene where she goes and
Speaker 1: cries in the bedroom and then comes back and she's like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to the pageant. I find me too.
Speaker 1: I did feel that too, because she's a really good crier. Yes,
Speaker 1: but of yeah, I get it. Yes you'd be heartbroken
Speaker 1: because you know what your husband's thinking and doing. But
Speaker 1: I would have gone to therapy after all of these
Speaker 1: character Yes, therapist if they moved into that family would
Speaker 1: make a killing killing But I don't know, Like, especially
Speaker 1: because Emma Thompson's character is introduced as being like so
Speaker 1: set in her ways and like this is the life
Speaker 1: path she's chosen and she's sticking to it, it seems
Speaker 1: almost like out of character about the very little we
Speaker 1: know about her that she would just be like you
Speaker 1: know what, fusk However, many exactly she's made this she
Speaker 1: so big into her family, and it's like she'said and
Speaker 1: she's this wonderful mother and she takes care of everything
Speaker 1: and then she's like I'm done. I mean it just
Speaker 1: it's very like she would do it my mom did,
Speaker 1: which is just be like you will obey me. Now
Speaker 1: I'm in charge and you have a very short law.
Speaker 1: If I'm the cock, that's it. That's it. And they
Speaker 1: also portray her, you know, as that sort of like
Speaker 1: pitiful type of oh and she's let herself go and
Speaker 1: I don't know, like they just really gave her kind
Speaker 1: of like a schleppy type vibe. The whole thing is like,
Speaker 1: you know, and we love Alan Rickman, but like what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's yes, you know what I mean, like they are
Speaker 1: equally matched, that is, you know, it's not at all
Speaker 1: like shocking, and they just make it so like she's,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever deserves to be cheated on or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a scene where me A, the
Speaker 1: young assistant that's in love with him, that's throwing at him,
Speaker 1: takes off all of her clothes and it's just like
Speaker 1: in a red bra and underwear, and she like and
Speaker 1: it's like, why is this in the movie? What? And
Speaker 1: I like, for a second, like, I guess you could
Speaker 1: argue that it serves to contrast because in the scene
Speaker 1: shot right before that you see Emma Thompson having taken
Speaker 1: off her dress. That's exactly what I thought of too,
Speaker 1: and she's in like a full like slip. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and its evil but yeah, what you know, and what
Speaker 1: bothers me about that is is guess what. Mia, By
Speaker 1: the way, Earth is also going to age at some
Speaker 1: point and she will one day be Emma Thompson. So
Speaker 1: just get the funk over yourself. Man. Anyway, Oh I
Speaker 1: got angry there for a second. Does she not? Also
Speaker 1: does she not also answer the door in the same bra?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Or she wearing the top when she
Speaker 1: answers the answer? She's wearing it? Okay, Okay, I just
Speaker 1: feel like she's in that red rob the very She's
Speaker 1: like one of those cartoon character closets. It's just so
Speaker 1: red bros. I thought she's the Einstein of Red Brass
Speaker 1: to dug or something totally anyway, Yeah, professor's name was
Speaker 1: My mom loves this storyline, and I'm like what mom,
Speaker 1: But she like so much for Emma Thompson's character. But
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, like there was sort of like an
Speaker 1: emotional infidelity that happened. But and that would and that
Speaker 1: would don't get it wrong, that would it would happen.
Speaker 1: But if you're married to someone else, you still find
Speaker 1: yourself attracted. Absolutely. Yeah. And this wasn't like a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: This was her like husband for Dick. Yeah, absolutely, And
Speaker 1: you know, and again I were not, you know whatever
Speaker 1: to each is that one how you think about it?
Speaker 1: But you're right men and of course women too, but
Speaker 1: men have a tendency to have a wandering eye a
Speaker 1: little bit more because you know, they're way more visual
Speaker 1: than women are. And so yeah, you look at the
Speaker 1: hot girl at the office, Okay, I mean it gets
Speaker 1: the buying of the gift means something he does, he does,
Speaker 1: act on it, he does. And also really, I mean
Speaker 1: I guess and she young, slutty, sexy Mia, she's going
Speaker 1: for a man like thirty years or senior. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: like what's the motive? I mean, wasn't at the same
Speaker 1: office that Carl works at. I mean she's like yeah
Speaker 1: the whole time. That was just sort of like you
Speaker 1: know all due respect exactly anyway, we all have a
Speaker 1: radic tape A little weird. That's problem with almost every
Speaker 1: storyline in this movie is that the character's personalities aren't established,
Speaker 1: so you have no idea what anyone likes anywhere. We're
Speaker 1: just we're facing it on agent. Looks that's what we're doing,
Speaker 1: right right. I forgot a line of dialogue that I
Speaker 1: wrote down that is just what a gem. He's telling
Speaker 1: his assistant or whatever Mia to plan the Christmas party,
Speaker 1: and he says it's one of the things to do
Speaker 1: advise the girls to avoid Kevin if they want their
Speaker 1: breasts unfondled, which the implications of that are he is
Speaker 1: the boss and he knowingly has an employee who sexually
Speaker 1: assaults women, and his advance is just to keep your
Speaker 1: breaths away from this. Yeah, whatst That is really disgusting.
Speaker 1: Will I think that his secretary she has to change
Speaker 1: her panties every five she's just like the yeah from
Speaker 1: a Yeah, she's just gooping. Yeah, I've totally forgot that
Speaker 1: line that. I don't know if I even never noticed
Speaker 1: it Inte neither, but I know I know that that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like a throwaway line. But it's like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, condoning sucking asshole. Yeah. Anyway, next storyline, when
Speaker 1: Colin got a X wants to go to America to Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: They this is my most hated I hate this one
Speaker 1: so much. It's really dumb. Alright, Akay, let's get into Okay.
Speaker 1: First of all, you at the beginning called him ugly,
Speaker 1: and it's so true because he's got like God bless
Speaker 1: He's friend calls him ugly. He is. He's one of
Speaker 1: those eyes with too much space, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like it's like the eyes on a bit of a
Speaker 1: fish with it's on the opposite and you know whatever
Speaker 1: I mean. Please, I know what I look like. But
Speaker 1: this boy, this is a little unfortunately. Of course, what
Speaker 1: saves him, of course in this whole thing is the
Speaker 1: British accent. And that's the only part that's clever in
Speaker 1: this whole thing is the fact that he's a British
Speaker 1: accent and then American women go crazy for him. Now,
Speaker 1: this is we sometimes do this. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: We have moments when we do this because there is
Speaker 1: something about a British accent that it's so able and
Speaker 1: it's wrong, and I feel stupid for saying it, but
Speaker 1: it's true. They have cute and the little and their
Speaker 1: words in there. And that's the only part about the
Speaker 1: whole scene, his whole storyline that is actually like, okay,
Speaker 1: remotely clever. When they're asking him to name things, what
Speaker 1: do you call this, and it's yeah, exactly, it's all right,
Speaker 1: that's cute. But of course then he goes to America
Speaker 1: because he says, and where does he go? Idaho or something? Wisconsin? Okay,
Speaker 1: So he shows up and he just walks into a
Speaker 1: diner of some sort and then meets those three women
Speaker 1: who like they hurt my soul, like I just it
Speaker 1: was January. That was January jar oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then um, the other with the Chris, the Canadian
Speaker 1: girl what's her name, yeah, Cuthbert yeah. And then um,
Speaker 1: of course the girl from American Pie Oh, Elizabeth, yes, Shannon, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: And there was there was one more oh yes, and
Speaker 1: then that that other one, the third girl who I
Speaker 1: can I don't know her name anyway, all hot, gorgeous
Speaker 1: girls and the way they they portray them is just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it is. It's absolutely really. I think
Speaker 1: they're all wearing cowboy hats, aren't they. They're like it's
Speaker 1: like someone google yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so stupid, And I think it's meant to be,
Speaker 1: like sure, they want to balance certain storylines out. Some
Speaker 1: of them are going to be more comical, some of
Speaker 1: them are going to be more emotionally. Yeah, but it's like,
Speaker 1: oh God, try harder. I don't know, like they're so
Speaker 1: not just even their backstory they all lived together and
Speaker 1: then they shared it's so gross and they as like
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, like they accidentally sprayed each other with ketchup
Speaker 1: or something and it's just, oh, my top and they
Speaker 1: it's just it's so like cue the music, Like the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies porn should have happened immediately because it was
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. But I thought was going to happen like
Speaker 1: this would be like that sort of and it's hacky
Speaker 1: and terrible too, but it would have been less offensive
Speaker 1: if like he shows up and there's two slow any
Speaker 1: chicks and one is like not like the others, and
Speaker 1: she's like, I don't fall for your and I was
Speaker 1: waiting for her to come to yea no, she doesn't know.
Speaker 1: It just it just gets worse and he just immediately
Speaker 1: kisses him, and it's just like she walks in. She's
Speaker 1: just like God, because that's what Americans do, by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that they immediately kiss
Speaker 1: you on the mouth. I mean, it's just it's it's
Speaker 1: it's absolutely ridiculous. It's just and the whole like they're back,
Speaker 1: they're all roommates and they sleep together, and it's just
Speaker 1: like who taught you about women? Whoever wrote this scene?
Speaker 1: Like it is just it is some thirteen year old
Speaker 1: boys fantasy and they put it on the director of
Speaker 1: this movie because some googling. Anyways, we'll get there. He
Speaker 1: wrote it to write and directed. Oh he's a yeah.
Speaker 1: I did fall for that though. Whenever I was a young,
Speaker 1: younger person and I was living in New York City
Speaker 1: and there was a British guy in a bar and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Australian. Yeah. We had
Speaker 1: a little bit of a romance on the fact that
Speaker 1: he was British not that attractive. If he was, that
Speaker 1: American accent have been repulsive. Once a British navy men
Speaker 1: offered me m d m A and I was so
Speaker 1: close to taking it just and he looked like a
Speaker 1: foot that like maybe I didn't. It's we're suckers. It's awful,
Speaker 1: but it's true. Yeah. The next one is the porn
Speaker 1: stand ins, which, first of all, I want to see
Speaker 1: that's as high production value enough that they hire standing
Speaker 1: where's where's that porn? It's not on porn hub. That
Speaker 1: tends to be a full service job. So it's Martin
Speaker 1: Freeman and a character whose name is just Judy and
Speaker 1: she's credited in the Oh no, I guess like the
Speaker 1: gimmick here is that they're shy and they're afraid to
Speaker 1: like ask each other l even though they're like miming
Speaker 1: Fallacio and each other and stuff. And she's they're naked,
Speaker 1: like she's full naked. Yeah, she's like bouncing on his
Speaker 1: like dick at one point, but they're too shy to
Speaker 1: actually ask each other for coffee. And oh again, just
Speaker 1: another like this is supposed to be one of the
Speaker 1: funny ones and it's just it's yeah, and that sits
Speaker 1: it and that's all it is, Like that's the whole thing,
Speaker 1: that's the whole scene. They just every scene we see
Speaker 1: them in a more graphic sexual position, and them talking
Speaker 1: about the books they've read, and that's not even They
Speaker 1: talk about traffic at one point like I don't even
Speaker 1: know again another and they fall in love. But I
Speaker 1: do wonder, like I looked at us and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's probably kick them one two days to yeah, they
Speaker 1: probably made a lot of money and two days I
Speaker 1: know you can't. I was going to say, you can't
Speaker 1: get mad at anyone here because this is the page check.
Speaker 1: It's it's always a paycheck. But you know, hopefully you
Speaker 1: saved that money and you can be more discriminating from you.
Speaker 1: What I'm learning from this movie is that the people
Speaker 1: you fall in love with are just the ones who
Speaker 1: are near you. Oh my god. Oh it's totally a
Speaker 1: proximity game. Absolutely was this before? Oh my god, we're
Speaker 1: always in the same room. Everyone loves Aristotle. Everyone loves Aristotle.
Speaker 1: Was this before? I guess this is way before online dating.
Speaker 1: Of course there is this two thousand and three. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it existed, but there wasn't. There was no
Speaker 1: swipe thing at this pot. I think it was still
Speaker 1: like there was a stigma around ye yes, dot com,
Speaker 1: but you were a weirdo in the basement. I remember, yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: do I have to move my car? What's happening? Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, you drive a Prius. You know how
Speaker 1: to drive a Prius. Guys, sorry, guys, more druma than
Speaker 1: is in Love. This is actually way more exciting than
Speaker 1: the entire movie. What's going to happen Christmas? Everybody? Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. We're real people, still real people. To
Speaker 1: move it, you know, just like everybody else. What do
Speaker 1: we talk about now that Aristotle's gone? We can say anything? Oh,
Speaker 1: maybe this is just a route. Maybe he doesn't my
Speaker 1: car doesn't have to move. Maybe he just has to poop.
Speaker 1: He took your keys to go and poop in my car?
Speaker 1: You pooped in my car? No, I think he went
Speaker 1: to poop in the bathroom with the cricket. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good cover. I'm not gonna take to take
Speaker 1: you a long time and seriously, wow, wows, I'll use
Speaker 1: that one one time. I really will love. Actually, do
Speaker 1: we have anything else to say about that? The chable one?
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't think I had any other
Speaker 1: nuts on that one. Do we have left we have? Mark?
Speaker 1: I think? Is this character's name the guy from Walking Down.
Speaker 1: This is like the iconic who doesn't speak. Does how
Speaker 1: many words you say in the whole movie? Heeping? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know that this one. They're trying to make this
Speaker 1: one so romantic and it's supposed to be, like it's not.
Speaker 1: It's just creepy parodied like this, just like because that
Speaker 1: scene became so iconic somehow, where he's like, it's a
Speaker 1: rip off of say anything basically, like, but it's also
Speaker 1: a rip off of you know, subterranean homes like blues. Basically,
Speaker 1: that's what that is. That's Bob Dylan with It's a
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan video where he just stands with the yeah
Speaker 1: and that's his whole song, like and it's so early seventies.
Speaker 1: I met Richard Curtis, the director, it was like, it's
Speaker 1: oh much, but I'm saying, this is the whole case,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's Cure Nightly and her lovely husband
Speaker 1: and you know we see them right it's at the
Speaker 1: wedding and we find out that Um Walking Dead is
Speaker 1: best friends and he's also taken the wedding video and
Speaker 1: then she goes to see it and the most the
Speaker 1: most exciting thing about this whole scene is that she
Speaker 1: mentions banoffie pie. Have you had Boffell? I didn't know. God,
Speaker 1: it's caramel banana pie. Everybody look into it and get
Speaker 1: into it. That's the only That's what I have to
Speaker 1: tell you from this whole movie. But Affie, my stuff
Speaker 1: just lift. What do you get so romantic? I tell
Speaker 1: you know. There was a little place, um, there was
Speaker 1: a little place in the grove actually that um called
Speaker 1: Simple Santa. Yes, it's called Simple Things. It's in the
Speaker 1: you know, it's in the Yeah, it's it does fabulous sandwiches.
Speaker 1: But they used to do a bonoffy pie there that
Speaker 1: Oh my god. A friend took me and I've I've
Speaker 1: it's one of those ones that I had like three
Speaker 1: years ago and I still think about it sometimes, one
Speaker 1: of those of you're just like, but yeah, anyway, So
Speaker 1: that's the highlight of that scene. My favorite part of
Speaker 1: the entire movie is when they played Titanic and it's
Speaker 1: just the other movie happening in this movie, because that's
Speaker 1: the best. I can't Titanic because I feel like that
Speaker 1: would be a three hour special because I think it's beautiful, dude.
Speaker 1: My favorite part of okay, quick Titanic. I have read
Speaker 1: the script to Titanic like the way James Cameron wrote it,
Speaker 1: and he is a perfect There's a scene, the sex
Speaker 1: scene in the car. I remember because I read it
Speaker 1: when I was like thirteen. I was like, it says like,
Speaker 1: and this is so like Victorian romance novel. He says
Speaker 1: like Jack gets on top of Rose and she flourishes
Speaker 1: under his welcome weight. I was like, whoa what flourishes
Speaker 1: under his welcome I was like, who has ever flourished
Speaker 1: under someone's welcome That sounds like your first day at
Speaker 1: wait watchers. Here's my welcome way. It's just so great.
Speaker 1: That's so gross. Oh I love that little that's scene.
Speaker 1: We never would have known that, but now we go. No,
Speaker 1: I might be the only person besides James Cameron. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's nice anyway. Okay, okay, so what did you
Speaker 1: what do you have to say about this one? Because
Speaker 1: this is a you know, well number one. So they
Speaker 1: show him being really mean to her, Yes, she doesn't.
Speaker 1: He pretends like he doesn't like her. Yeah, and I'll
Speaker 1: get into that Khaki ship like come on, yeah, it's god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: their their wedding and Laura, Lenny's there because guess what, guys,
Speaker 1: they're all connected. Yeah, and she sees him like staring
Speaker 1: at them dancing like the Mary couple dancing, and she's like,
Speaker 1: do you love him? And he's like what. She's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not maybe might love him. I just
Speaker 1: want to ask a question. And he's like absolutely not,
Speaker 1: no way, no way in hell, gross no. And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're he's well, he talking very being dismissive of the
Speaker 1: fact that he might be that she was suggesting that
Speaker 1: he was in love with her husband because it's two three, Yeah,
Speaker 1: queer eyes. So there's a few other instances of like
Speaker 1: some subtle homophobia. I sort of assumed that that would
Speaker 1: be the case for any two thousand three movie, and
Speaker 1: feel like these are the waning years where people make
Speaker 1: gay jokes in mainstream films and it's like, this is funny.
Speaker 1: We cap out and I now pronounce you Chuck and
Speaker 1: Larry two hour Engage. It always bugged me that there
Speaker 1: was no like a depiction of a gay yeah characters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: statistically there would be yeah, absolutely to yeah, but we
Speaker 1: don't see that, right, So he yeah, he's being very
Speaker 1: dismissive that someone suggests that he might be gay. Horrified. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's very, very disgusted by it. Now I feel like
Speaker 1: that is more like this whole thing, like he loves
Speaker 1: his best friend's wife is more of a cheat than
Speaker 1: Alan Rickman even buying a present for what I mean,
Speaker 1: that would that would and your I would be like,
Speaker 1: we're not friends anymore like you he I mean he is.
Speaker 1: He is obsessed over his best friends, right, and and
Speaker 1: the way she reacts because she like granted, she like
Speaker 1: extends in all of branch and it's like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: be friends, but it doesn't seem like she is. But
Speaker 1: she kisses him right after he does the whole thing.
Speaker 1: He shows up at the door and says, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll always love you, and then she runs out and
Speaker 1: she's like, this is you know, because you missed out,
Speaker 1: So she gives him a pity kiss, but it's still
Speaker 1: like honestly, it's still more and she's just been married.
Speaker 1: They're like, they're like three weeks married, you guys are,
Speaker 1: but like I got we don't know when I saw
Speaker 1: that scene where like when kier And Nightly kisses him,
Speaker 1: like you bet you just want the attention the only
Speaker 1: but that's the only thing I could think of, because
Speaker 1: they don't like she doesn't seem to particularly. She's like,
Speaker 1: I want to be friends with my husband's friend, even
Speaker 1: though I know he's declared as that. Wouldn't you be
Speaker 1: like come and wouldn't you be like no, stop and
Speaker 1: then go away. I'm okay, maybe I'm stupid, but I
Speaker 1: would go in and I would say to my husband,
Speaker 1: your best friend just totally hit on me and told
Speaker 1: me they loves me. And I would tell scary video
Speaker 1: of me on our wedding day that we I think
Speaker 1: we paid him to do the video. He only took
Speaker 1: footage of me, I mean. And then all she says is, oh,
Speaker 1: I look very pretty. Okay, first of all, take it
Speaker 1: down or not tonight? Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But you know, but I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if other women would keep that quiet, but I would.
Speaker 1: I would be like, yeah, I would you keep acquired?
Speaker 1: Would you tell your husband? No? I would. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: tell I want to put that scene on YouTube with
Speaker 1: horror movie playing and be like that would that would
Speaker 1: be scary for me? If I'm like that was four
Speaker 1: three years later, he rapes her like there's no way. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe that was a jump that, but she's dead somewhere
Speaker 1: and that's all we know. And don't like, don't kiss
Speaker 1: that man, because now he's never going to let it go.
Speaker 1: I know, I just I just think the kiss was
Speaker 1: super super unnecessary, right, well, the way, like the way
Speaker 1: his love for her is also I know, well it's
Speaker 1: like also extremely cartoonishly represented because he loves her so
Speaker 1: like why why why number one? Number two? If when
Speaker 1: he knows that his best friend is marrying her, he
Speaker 1: needs to work on himself and get yes, he needs
Speaker 1: to do something. Yeah. The fact that he just allows
Speaker 1: himself to keep loving her from in absolutely is borderline insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's insane because again we know that they're trying to
Speaker 1: make this this big romantic like unrequited love, and it's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's really not. It's it's weird. And you're right,
Speaker 1: he's a grow man. Get over it, you know, seek
Speaker 1: some therapy and and find yourself your own girl. And
Speaker 1: if I can't get over it, then stop hanging out
Speaker 1: with them. Yeah, exactly, move Like I just I tried
Speaker 1: to contextualize this with anyone i'd ever dated friend, and
Speaker 1: I just like I would tell someone right away. I
Speaker 1: would be so freaked out, like and I I, and
Speaker 1: this is what's so like damaging, and I feel like
Speaker 1: it results in all these creepy love moves from men
Speaker 1: in real life. Is like that, this is like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is how you do it exactly. And then someone
Speaker 1: saying like sends you a creepy mix tape about your
Speaker 1: feet and you're just like, what the fund is this?
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, I thought you'd like you Like, No,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. It's about my feet. That's just
Speaker 1: a little slice in my own life. There's it's not specifics.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I do love that. I love that
Speaker 1: scene where like he runs outside and he's like blowing
Speaker 1: off the steam because she just discovered that he loves her.
Speaker 1: And they're like, I think it's an Enya song or something,
Speaker 1: and it's so the music is so dated, and he's
Speaker 1: just like he keeps like spinning around. He's like, do
Speaker 1: I go back doing? And he like stomps around and
Speaker 1: then like, oh god, it's so dumb. I just I
Speaker 1: was like, who can relate with this? Just like yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's rare, it's and then well,
Speaker 1: the other thing is like shows how insane, like the
Speaker 1: fact that he just treats her like absolute garbage, which
Speaker 1: is the whole thing. If you're if you're watching that's
Speaker 1: what younger exactly, if young boys are watching this, they
Speaker 1: are you know, they don't have a chance. So okay,
Speaker 1: so you like a girl, so twitter like garbage to
Speaker 1: hide your feelings and lie to your best friend and
Speaker 1: then follow her and spy on her, and it's just
Speaker 1: the whole thing is weird. The whole thing is weird.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I hope, I hope young men aren't
Speaker 1: watching this or young women. To be honest, yeah yeah
Speaker 1: please yea god. I kept put myself in like if
Speaker 1: I watched that scene to I was not a man
Speaker 1: to do this for exactly. I want him to spin
Speaker 1: around to a yeah yeah, but you don't know, probably
Speaker 1: at eleven you would have, like, seriously, at eleven years old,
Speaker 1: you might think he loves to be so much, and
Speaker 1: it's it's so deluded and crazy. I used to watch
Speaker 1: a ton of these movies. I loved Matthew McConaughey when
Speaker 1: I was younger, Like the Wedding planner is my face.
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to plan matth, you know.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is how it happens and that's
Speaker 1: so plan Oh my god, that was a quote. I'm
Speaker 1: so so Harry. It's so it's so awful gross. Okay,
Speaker 1: what next one? So the next storyline after that is uh,
Speaker 1: Hugh Grant of the Prime Minister and his caters, like
Speaker 1: not too dissimilar from the secretary thing. It's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're inferior. What I am is that is that his
Speaker 1: thing is niche first of all, when he dances, and
Speaker 1: is this the one that he dances? Right? That makes
Speaker 1: I wanted to cry that. I was like so sad
Speaker 1: for him and this. I was like, really, they make
Speaker 1: him dance in the office and they're to be cheeky
Speaker 1: and he's also yeah, but oh my god, and when
Speaker 1: you actually watch him dancing, you're like, this is the whitest, yeah,
Speaker 1: most horrible. What is like here? What is like something
Speaker 1: good he's done? I don't know, can you think of one? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I always confuse Colin Firth and Grant. I'm like, like
Speaker 1: Colin first the good, but you don't know. I think
Speaker 1: I think I think he had like there's an old
Speaker 1: British movie that apparently he was amazing in and then
Speaker 1: we all just don't know about it. There has to
Speaker 1: be because you know, even even Three Weddings and a Funeral,
Speaker 1: it's really nothing same written by the same guy as
Speaker 1: Actually God, no wonder also that either I didn't like
Speaker 1: it either, by the way, and everyone loved that movie,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I don't see why everyone's
Speaker 1: going so crazy over that movie. Never liked it. So
Speaker 1: I think that that's why Hugh. That's why I think
Speaker 1: Hugh Grant is in this movie. It's because it's the
Speaker 1: same writer. Because of this man. Yeah, seriously, there anything
Speaker 1: else anything. Most of his career have been like rom com. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely well. He was also in another Richard Curtis movie,
Speaker 1: Notting Hill Julie Roberts, which is another weirdly sexist Britain
Speaker 1: every Oh no, that's saying that. Um let's see. He
Speaker 1: was in Bridget Jones. Oh yeah, he's been in every
Speaker 1: Richard Curtis movie. That's Oh my gosh, Richard Curtis. He
Speaker 1: was in Cloud Alice. I don't know if he's ever
Speaker 1: done anything good. He was in Sense and Sensibility the
Speaker 1: one with Kate Winslet. Oh that's right, that's maybe that
Speaker 1: was his jumping off point. But it's like I just
Speaker 1: don't every time I see him, like, why are you?
Speaker 1: Why do we know you? Yeah, why do we know you?
Speaker 1: Why are you around? Like you're not. You could usually
Speaker 1: you could be like, oh, Kean isn' ship because he
Speaker 1: was in the Matrix, right, but like he is, like what, yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you do it? Like there's never been Oscar
Speaker 1: buzz around Hugh Grant, Like that's never happened. Anybody's just
Speaker 1: British American women just gobbled enough, which Britain is a
Speaker 1: calling Firth or Hugh Grant, who is in that Amanda
Speaker 1: bind movie from two thousand to call What a Girl
Speaker 1: Wants okay, because I love that movie that I wanted okay,
Speaker 1: never saw it. I think we don't watch any of
Speaker 1: the same types of that I've only seen like okay
Speaker 1: movies and I've seen The Jinks eight times. That's like
Speaker 1: I watched it last week and it's like, well, because
Speaker 1: that news came out where he released to stevement Robert,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, everything I said in that series,
Speaker 1: I was high on meth. I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: gotta watch it again, and I did and I threw mathighs.
Speaker 1: I'm going to his trial anyways, oh my god. Really well,
Speaker 1: he's like being tried in Pasadena in February, and so
Speaker 1: it's in my calendar. I want to go. Anyone can go.
Speaker 1: It's like, you can go. I'm gonna get dug In
Speaker 1: Donuts and go real early. Oh god, if you should
Speaker 1: follow you around with you if ever you guys want
Speaker 1: to come, though, like might be into that. I was
Speaker 1: trying to. I was like, right, I was like, and
Speaker 1: then we can just like have a chat. But it's
Speaker 1: hard to not like, I wouldn't want to reach out
Speaker 1: to the wrong person and say, do you want to
Speaker 1: go to Roberts trial with me? Because because he is
Speaker 1: probably a murderer. Well he is a murderer, absolutely with
Speaker 1: killed them, of course a murderer. Anyways, February's interesting romantic
Speaker 1: time of yeard. We can all get horny for he
Speaker 1: wears a neck brace. Now pure yeah okay, sorry. So
Speaker 1: most of the jokes on this storyline, or just mentions
Speaker 1: of anything, are that she is fat. Yeah, this gorgeous
Speaker 1: girl is fat. Her boyfriend broke up with because she's fat.
Speaker 1: So basically what they're telling everyone in the world is
Speaker 1: fat women don't deserve love. And again, please just look
Speaker 1: at her for one minute. She is not fat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like she's like the Hollywood Yeah really, and and
Speaker 1: then it's you know, then the whole thing is that
Speaker 1: you know, he's the prime minister and she is an underling,
Speaker 1: and you know they hook up, and that's I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure against the rules. But I don't know what goes on.
Speaker 1: So well that evolved like the heatero romantic relationships, it's
Speaker 1: almost always between like a man in like a lot
Speaker 1: more power. And then that's subordinate because none of the women, yeah,
Speaker 1: none of the women in this movie. If if we
Speaker 1: even know what their jobs are, it's usually a cleaning lady.
Speaker 1: Laura Lenny. I think she's the only one that seems
Speaker 1: to be that we don't even know what her I
Speaker 1: just assume that she was on the same level as Carl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's it. But it's like, what is Carl creative?
Speaker 1: He was like a graphic design Yeah, somebody, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was big. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot
Speaker 1: like the men, like Alan Rickman is the boss or
Speaker 1: whatever company that is. There's a male prime minister. It's
Speaker 1: all these men in like positions of power and authority.
Speaker 1: And then it's a bunch of women who are like
Speaker 1: homemakers or cleaning ladies or maids. Yeah, and it's another
Speaker 1: like I was anticipating so many like super basic rom
Speaker 1: com trupes. I'm well versed in round Concert. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's weird that I haven't seen this movie, but I
Speaker 1: was expecting, you know, with this many storylines. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's going to be like a like a herald and
Speaker 1: mod kind of thing. They're going to invert it and
Speaker 1: there's going to be one younger man older but that
Speaker 1: never nebit. It's the same thing over and overno thing.
Speaker 1: There's no Yeah, there could be a lesbian couple. Why
Speaker 1: not have that, right, let's throw this and like there.
Speaker 1: But they had so many opportunities to do it and
Speaker 1: they had to do it, and they just like, Nope,
Speaker 1: it's just going to be a bunch of straight white people.
Speaker 1: I bet they thought they were using each other. I
Speaker 1: bet they thought they were so progressive to have like
Speaker 1: an interracial marriage. You know. It was another high five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's only going to say like three words the entire movie,
Speaker 1: and he's the cock and he's the but you know
Speaker 1: with a white guy, like absolutely, oh yeah, the one
Speaker 1: interracial marriage is ruined by a white male psychopath. I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking about the Prime Minister one again. And then
Speaker 1: of course they bring in the American Billy Bob Thornton.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? And depiction of Americans are terrible? But
Speaker 1: not at all? But if you need to choose someone
Speaker 1: to depict a sleezy American, can he your go to?
Speaker 1: He is your go to? He does the job, and
Speaker 1: just play the president. Am I wrong? He does? Okay,
Speaker 1: so I didn't. Basically that is a that was foretelling.
Speaker 1: We didn't know this, but that was basically he's Donald
Speaker 1: Trump in it, Like he's basically much more attractive and
Speaker 1: less stupid and disgusting and horrible. Let's not go there.
Speaker 1: I can't right now. Yeah, I got music, um, and yeah,
Speaker 1: and he makes a move, he grabs her ass or
Speaker 1: something and yeah, and then and then he's of course
Speaker 1: he stands up for her because he loves her, and
Speaker 1: well that was enough for you Grant to be like,
Speaker 1: she shouldn't have a job with me? Anymore. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he walked in on like like yeah, he like he
Speaker 1: fired devotes her or whatever for that publishment for the
Speaker 1: President of the United States hitting on you exactly demoted
Speaker 1: girl who didn't ask for this and who was the
Speaker 1: one being assaulted, but yeah, you get your job taken
Speaker 1: away and away. If I were her, I would have
Speaker 1: been like, yeah, American president sucked me right now. I
Speaker 1: don't care if the Prime minister's in the next room.
Speaker 1: If he walks in, I'll be like your next buddy.
Speaker 1: After this, we're gonna fun. Let's have a three sum
Speaker 1: and then any kalin. I'm just in control of my sexuality.
Speaker 1: I would be like, can I just like escape through
Speaker 1: a window, or like hide under a curvet or call
Speaker 1: this c I a yes, someone get Billy bobbed from
Speaker 1: my body? Well I would, I mean, I would only
Speaker 1: do that his welcome wife, I am not. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that language. He was still married to what's her name,
Speaker 1: the director of the hurt Locker, Catherine Bigelow Bigelow, I'm like,
Speaker 1: is this does she flourish under his welcome away? He
Speaker 1: always hated him. I always hated James anyway. Terminator two
Speaker 1: is a fantastic movie. Okay, everyone everyone has a good link.
Speaker 1: But I don't get him as a man. He seems
Speaker 1: like it's just like a dork, doesn't he just really
Speaker 1: like dork is his word? Yeah, like a dork who
Speaker 1: read a lot of fame fiction when he was younger.
Speaker 1: And now he's like, now you can make hot people
Speaker 1: do what I want. Yeah, Like, there's no way he
Speaker 1: didn't write fan faction, Like, there's no way. Right, I
Speaker 1: don't like Avatar me neither. Okay, on the next one,
Speaker 1: so there's well, there's a couple of I think we're on,
Speaker 1: we're not. There's a cup lines of dialogue. The Prime
Speaker 1: Minister is talking to one of his staff members. Yes,
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, you know Natalie who works here,
Speaker 1: and she's like the chubby girl. I know. Okay, first
Speaker 1: of all, she's the one who introduced Natalie. I know,
Speaker 1: you know what her name is. And then he goes,
Speaker 1: what I call her chubby Yeah, and she's like there's
Speaker 1: a pretty sizeable ask this huge thighs and it's like
Speaker 1: you're talking about someone you work with to the minister,
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister, you have time to documentary diploma. Seriously,
Speaker 1: this is what we do at that. This is what
Speaker 1: we're doing in the whatever house they live in, you
Speaker 1: know that, Yeah, and this is that, this is this
Speaker 1: is what we're talking about that and then and it's
Speaker 1: a woman and woman also like tearing down another woman
Speaker 1: that way. It's like really in that moment, I was like,
Speaker 1: what's this movie made? During like Lewinsky air but it
Speaker 1: was years after you had no reason for it. And
Speaker 1: then at the very very end, whenever the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: is coming out of the gate at Heathrow because you know,
Speaker 1: why don't they have an air force one equivalent anyone, anyone?
Speaker 1: Why is he just walking out like they talk about
Speaker 1: Heathrow Airport Like there's that happens at the very beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know if they if they bring it back. But
Speaker 1: he's like walking and she like runs and jumps into
Speaker 1: his arms and he goes, oh god, you weigh a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: her weight just commented on and she really did. Was
Speaker 1: never the big man. I mean seriously, he easily you know,
Speaker 1: caught her. It's just gross. And also you're right, like
Speaker 1: no that would they wouldn't like have shot her down
Speaker 1: or at least billy clubbed her down. I mean seriously,
Speaker 1: you can just run up to the come on again,
Speaker 1: why is he not using a private jet? And like
Speaker 1: whenever he knocks on like a hundred different doors. She
Speaker 1: works for you. You have her tax form somewhere with
Speaker 1: her address on. Also, you the prime minister. You can
Speaker 1: figure out where anyone lives. Why did he go? It
Speaker 1: was so stupid? Oh okay about it. The last storyline
Speaker 1: is Carla, which the thing that really bugged me about
Speaker 1: this is that she puts the needs of another man
Speaker 1: before her own. That drove me crazy. And I know
Speaker 1: it's her brother and stuff and the crazy. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: he's mentally ill, but he's at a he's at a hospital,
Speaker 1: he's cared for. He's not just sitting by himself at home.
Speaker 1: He's at a hospital with attendance. And yet she has
Speaker 1: to be the one to give over her entire life.
Speaker 1: And yes, okay, are we awful people? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Are we? Probably? No? I mean, you have to like
Speaker 1: fulfill your life and desires. Come on, sometimes there could
Speaker 1: have been some sort of balance struck because like all this,
Speaker 1: this whole fucking movie is about like women having to
Speaker 1: sacrifice their dignity or like Meg extreme compromise to meet
Speaker 1: like a philandering person in like Beyond the Middle, and
Speaker 1: so like when you see her do that, like she's
Speaker 1: the only female character, you're like, oh, she has a
Speaker 1: job that isn't nine dollars an hour. And then it's like, oh, nope,
Speaker 1: she's stuck too. I was really excited, like whenever she
Speaker 1: starts making out with this guy who she's been pining
Speaker 1: over in like a probably kind of creepy way, but
Speaker 1: like we've all done that. They don't, we don't. They
Speaker 1: don't reveal that she like spies on him or anything.
Speaker 1: Everyone in the office as a crush. She keeps it together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like a Mark video. No. Yeah, and she's
Speaker 1: not mean to him, you know, she's like, hi, Carl,
Speaker 1: Carl apparently tried to keep it together. It's cute. She's
Speaker 1: actually does it pretty well. It's cute crush. But then
Speaker 1: as soon as they like start making up and getting
Speaker 1: and then like she's like, no, my brother's calling, even
Speaker 1: though he's in a hospital on other people take care
Speaker 1: of them. I have to talk to him. I have
Speaker 1: to choose this moment to talk to him on the
Speaker 1: phone and not have you inside. She's half naked. She's
Speaker 1: half naked inside exactly, and she's like, I have to
Speaker 1: take the call now, like let it go, turn off
Speaker 1: your ringer and you know what I mean, come on
Speaker 1: eighteen minutes later. That's how we gotta do. Say you
Speaker 1: were in the tunnel and that's love. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it is. It's just very much just like give over
Speaker 1: And is that love? Really? I mean that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's she loves her brother so much that she gives
Speaker 1: up her own desires. I mean, not right, And I
Speaker 1: will say again what the three things that I enjoyed
Speaker 1: this movie is the ending when they're at the airport
Speaker 1: and everyone they do the montage with the song and everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, then you're they're watching people greet each other
Speaker 1: at the airport. Literally probably I think the only thing
Speaker 1: that makes you just go because it's not it is
Speaker 1: watching people greet each other at the airport is lovely.
Speaker 1: It is it is. It is coming to running into
Speaker 1: each other's someone who is almost never greeted at they ever,
Speaker 1: never never my entire life, and just like Nell and
Speaker 1: trudges out and I'm just I'm just sweaty and where's
Speaker 1: my bag? And don't touch me and yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: like it seems nice. I've never ever to It's it's fantasy.
Speaker 1: It's never seen it happen. I've picked someone up from
Speaker 1: the airport before. Yeah, yeah, but you never like park
Speaker 1: your car and go wait if they're like gate right,
Speaker 1: you just will did but really about my feets? Never again.
Speaker 1: So the thing is is that this movie is about relationships,
Speaker 1: yet there are almost no women on women relationships. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no friend relationships in this and I have cataloged
Speaker 1: all of the instances where women talk to each other
Speaker 1: and or are near each other. Given given the number
Speaker 1: of women in this movie, it's absurd how few there are. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the first one we see is Emma Thompson talking
Speaker 1: to her daughter about the Christmas pageant and how she's
Speaker 1: a lobster that technically passes the bed. It last ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen seconds, but it does, it does pass. The
Speaker 1: next one is when they were in the British White House. Whatever,
Speaker 1: I can't I'm at a loss for some reason. Natalie
Speaker 1: kind of turns to the older housekeeper woman. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: did you see what I did? In referencing the fact
Speaker 1: that she swore in front of the Prime Minister. It's
Speaker 1: barely audible and it lasts about two seconds, but it
Speaker 1: does it count if she doesn't respond. Really, these are
Speaker 1: just instances where they actually they're near each other and
Speaker 1: talked to each other, just don't know. It depends because yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like we we've we've gone through this whole thing
Speaker 1: to every were like which version of the backtle sy
Speaker 1: story using? Because I don't think that that other has
Speaker 1: she doesn't have any. Either way, the point that I
Speaker 1: will be arriving at is that the movie is two
Speaker 1: hours and fifteen minutes long, and there's lemon then like
Speaker 1: three minutes of women interacting with each other during the
Speaker 1: entire thing. You know what else, even even with the
Speaker 1: Bill night his story is about him being his best friend,
Speaker 1: his manager, which is they gave that to the men
Speaker 1: to which is so unlikely, Like, of course men have friendships,
Speaker 1: but it's like we all know you know where then
Speaker 1: where Yeah, you would assume that you would give that,
Speaker 1: but no you can't too. That's like I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like a broken trust of male friendship, but it's still
Speaker 1: like a very strong male bond that's established and they
Speaker 1: don't get they don't make obviously we know, we've already
Speaker 1: established there are no lesbians, there's no homosexuals, there's nothing.
Speaker 1: But they don't even they don't even represent like female friendship,
Speaker 1: which is all. I can't believe that that's discussing two
Speaker 1: hours in fifteen minutes. Yeah, there's a few more. There's um,
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, Ugly Colin. He probably has the
Speaker 1: most girls talking to each other. That scene does lass longest,
Speaker 1: But at no point did they ever actually talked to
Speaker 1: each other each other. They're they're talking to him beside
Speaker 1: each other, and that wasn't in furious because I was
Speaker 1: waiting for that, yeah, until I was like, oh, there's
Speaker 1: going to be a small but there isn't. It would
Speaker 1: have been the sexy one came in and said, what
Speaker 1: are you all doing? You idiots? Let's go back to college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to put the girl and like the other girls,
Speaker 1: didn't it to be like guys are because she's not
Speaker 1: wearing a tummy shirt, like she has proper underpants on.
Speaker 1: She's wearing a flannel and briefs. And she's like, we've
Speaker 1: got model you in you just described me. But anyway,
Speaker 1: literally it's time to go to model you. We gotta go.
Speaker 1: There's a scene where Laura Lenny asks me to turn
Speaker 1: down the music that lasts about four seconds. It technically
Speaker 1: passes the test, I think, but maybe not even There's
Speaker 1: a scene where the woman is introducing Aurelia to Colin Firth,
Speaker 1: being like, this is your new cleaning lady, but doesn't
Speaker 1: pass the test because they don't talk to each other.
Speaker 1: She only talks to Colin Firth about her. There's the
Speaker 1: we get a few different shots of Bill little NIE's
Speaker 1: music video, which is just women. There's just a shot
Speaker 1: of a woman's breasts. At some point there's a woman
Speaker 1: who did maybe playing the drums, and her legs are
Speaker 1: just like completely spread eagle for no reason. And then
Speaker 1: the rest of the women are just like licking their
Speaker 1: lips the entire time. That's how it so they are.
Speaker 1: Those women are near each other, but again they don't
Speaker 1: they don't speak. They're mostly salivating over themselves. Old man
Speaker 1: Richard Curtis is a perfect I feel so strongly about
Speaker 1: how much I dislike him. The more we read about him,
Speaker 1: the matter I get. Yeah, I want to hear what
Speaker 1: you find. Can I ask is this basically? Is this
Speaker 1: the average for every movie that you've discussed so far
Speaker 1: a very bad. I think that a lot like some
Speaker 1: that we do, don't pass, but they're usually older and
Speaker 1: they usually have far less female characters, So I think
Speaker 1: this is probably this is a lot of female characters
Speaker 1: and just barely passes. They're scene where Emma Thompson is
Speaker 1: talking to Natalie when they're at like the school play,
Speaker 1: but there does not pass the test because they are
Speaker 1: talking about the Prime Minister who's standing right there. They're
Speaker 1: just seeing where Natalie is talking to. She says something
Speaker 1: to her mom whenever the Prime Minister shows up at
Speaker 1: the door, and she's just like, too much detailed, mom,
Speaker 1: that's a line it. Emma Thompson talks to her daughter
Speaker 1: after the school pageant about being an orange lobster. I
Speaker 1: guess that passes, but like it kind of happens sort
Speaker 1: of off screen even and then Aurelia's sister tells her
Speaker 1: not to marry Colin for us, she's just like marry
Speaker 1: someone else, and it does not pass because they're talking
Speaker 1: about a man. So in the two hours and fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes this movie lasts, there's thirty seconds where women are
Speaker 1: passing the Bechdel tests. Having a conversation where they're talking
Speaker 1: about something other than a man. Every single other scenes
Speaker 1: or conversation is either two men talking to each other
Speaker 1: or a woman talking to a man, or even less frequently,
Speaker 1: two women talking to each other, but it's about a man.
Speaker 1: So it's pitiful attack having Can I can I talk
Speaker 1: about Richard Curtis a little because I need to execute
Speaker 1: him immediately. Okay, So a brief rund out of what
Speaker 1: he's written Four Weddings in the Funeral. Haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: It's probably not good to probably, and I don't remember
Speaker 1: very well. I just remember not liking it. He's a
Speaker 1: co writer of Bridget Jones Diary, which is an adaptation
Speaker 1: but is consistently very condescending to the protagonists of like
Speaker 1: she's kind of fat and kind of dumb, like and
Speaker 1: that's the whole character. So that was his and her friend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know if you worked on a sequel.
Speaker 1: Space and then love actually awful. Uh. And then he
Speaker 1: did this movie that I did see for some reason,
Speaker 1: called The Girl in the Cafe and it has Bill
Speaker 1: Night and a very young woman fucking each other and
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be nice. Uh. And then he did
Speaker 1: that movie about pirate radio that is all men and
Speaker 1: slutty women, and that was in two thousand nine. And
Speaker 1: then he wrote war Horse, which I think is very funny,
Speaker 1: just because like who knows, I'm I don't want to
Speaker 1: see war Horse, but I don't think it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like a feminist master. And then the last one I
Speaker 1: haven't seen. It's a movie called Trash. And that is
Speaker 1: how I feel about Richard Curtis. He's a cock. He
Speaker 1: is sixty years old, and I hope that he contracts something.
Speaker 1: He's a vile man. He would have infected my eleven
Speaker 1: year old brain with some funked up ship. Oh god, Okay,
Speaker 1: I feel better. We gotta wrap up so because I
Speaker 1: have to go to work downstairs. A nerd nelt but
Speaker 1: we is there any final, any final thoughts about this
Speaker 1: movie that we want to know. I'm not surprised. I knew,
Speaker 1: like when we when you suggested that. When I saw
Speaker 1: it on the list, I was pretty exciting, so I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is gonna be good. But I
Speaker 1: have to tell you when you break it down like that,
Speaker 1: I'm actually a little shocked. I don't I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just don't love it. I am. I mean it is,
Speaker 1: but even just like hearing like thirty seconds it's it's
Speaker 1: it's shocking to me. I didn't realize how bad and
Speaker 1: it's it's super bad. I want to watch it again,
Speaker 1: just because I was like pulling away by how much
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. This is one of those movies
Speaker 1: it just does not hold up, but it is really beloved,
Speaker 1: like it is a beloved Christmas movie. They put it
Speaker 1: up there with you know, like every oh we watch
Speaker 1: sound to music, it's a wonderful life and love actually,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well it's yeah, it's a crazy cap yeah,
Speaker 1: and as there's like the other movie I always associated with,
Speaker 1: like oh, this one doesn't hold up, but they loved
Speaker 1: it at the time is American Beauty. But I feel
Speaker 1: like people are a little more forthcoming with like, oh
Speaker 1: that movie is pretty perverted and like, but people loved
Speaker 1: it at the time. Love actually, almost like people people
Speaker 1: still stand by it time. Yeah, I'm saying like, I
Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna people are gonna be like, how
Speaker 1: could you say that about Yeah, they love this movie.
Speaker 1: I think it's just because it's it's under the veil
Speaker 1: of Christmas and people hot over it looking at hot
Speaker 1: straight people. But yeah, but I don't think any surprises here.
Speaker 1: I think this is we sort of knew coming into
Speaker 1: this and each episode by rating the movie and in
Speaker 1: the context of its portrayal of its female characters on
Speaker 1: a scale of zero to five, nipples five being five
Speaker 1: being very good, your best number of nipples to have. Yeah, good,
Speaker 1: dispair tire. So yeah, I'm gonna give it half a nipple. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it, okay, just because I don't feel like giving
Speaker 1: it a complete zero because some of these actresses, you know,
Speaker 1: they got paychecks, so I'm assuming all of them got
Speaker 1: probably not as big as the male counter, but I
Speaker 1: hope they gave some of it. I give it a
Speaker 1: half nipple, as Will did did nipple. I give it
Speaker 1: also I'm gonna go also with a half nipple, and
Speaker 1: it belongs to ugly Colin. Yeah. Simple. It just had
Speaker 1: so many opportunities to portray women so much better than
Speaker 1: it did, and it just failed on every single front.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, bury it burn it by forever um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you so much for being here. Wonderful.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you online if they want to follow? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This comes out this week. Oh yeah, my full name
Speaker 1: on Twitter, because you can find everything out on Twitter,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's I can't believe I didn't do
Speaker 1: like a little moniker, but it's my full name. It's
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for that, but yeah, there we go. It's good,
Speaker 1: it's good, it's easiest. Well, I'm now eight minutes late.
Speaker 1: I'm kinda thank you so much. Yes, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for being here. Fuck love. Actually, actually I got
Speaker 1: a Santa to attract under Santa, Happy holidays everyone, all right,