1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's the second hour of the Sean Hannity's show. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Joe conche in for sean five day weekend. The guy 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: finally took a day off. He never takes off, and 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: that affects my earnings. Nevertheless, we're having a good time 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: so far, my kids, and we're going to continue to 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: have a good time. But first, it's shameless fuck sales time. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Come on, man, the truth about Joe Biden's terrible, horrible, 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: no good, very bad presidency. That's my book went all 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the way to number seven on the Wall Street Journal 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: bestsellers list, went all the way to number two on 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: the Amazon bestsellers list, and the New York Times, the 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Paper of Record, the old old old gray ladies somehow 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: couldn't find any spot for me on their bestseller list. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Because it's not biased or anything, I'm not angry about 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: that whatsoever. Please go out and buy this because you 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: know it's a great book for the holidays, right, I 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: mean maybe traveling, Maybe you got some time off. Get 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: off the phone, get off the Twitter, get off these 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: places and read for want and educate yourself on the 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: life Joe Biden. It's utterly horrifying and hilarious all at 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: the same time and his presidency. Of course. Carol Roth, 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: I know, the great entrepreneur, the great podcaster, the great 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: hair designer overall. She bought my book, I know, and 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a live review of it right now. 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Carol act like you Reddit go No, it's fantastic, Joe, 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: and I'm so proud of you. And I actually think 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: that it's a badge of honor that the New York 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: Times snubbed it. It goes to show that it was 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: so damaging to Joe Biden that they couldn't even put 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: it on their list. So good good for you for 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: stoking the fire there. Can I tell you I had 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: inside information on this that there were two books on 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: there that I doubled their sales and they still didn't 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: put it on. And then I talked to Molly Hemingway, 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: who's also one of those Fox talking head books, and 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: she said, you got to look at this nineteen eighty 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: three lawsuit against the New York Times from the guy 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: who wrote The Exorcist, and really it's said, yeah, he 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: went to number one Publishers Weekly, I made the Publishers 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: Weekly list, went to the USA Today Bestseller list. I 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: was on that Wall Street Journal, all of them. He 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: made all of them except for the New York Times. 43 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: But he had a clause in his contract apparently that 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: said he would get a bonus, but its specifically said 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: he had to be on the New York Times bestseller list. 46 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: And he sued, and then in court the Times had 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: to admit that it's not just based on data. In 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: other words, where we're both football people, right like who 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: had a higher score the Bears and Alliance. No, it 50 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: also was an editorial decision. They finally admitted that it's 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: just not about the numbers, and that's what it should be. 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: You know, runs hits and that's that. But anyway, I'm 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: talking too much about myself or cause something else. Call 54 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: it the New York Times Favorite Books that we deem 55 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: appropriate list or whatever it is. But if it's a 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: sales based list, if that is a metric, that should 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: be the metric that it goes off. The New York 58 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: Times Book Club. Yes, it could be like Oprah, but 59 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: different exactly good stuff. Hey, I want to play a 60 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: clip for you, and I want to get your reaction. 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: And everybody listening at home or driving home, or maybe 62 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: you're about to fly out somewhere out in your ears, 63 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: off your phone somewhere. Tell me where the misleading let's 64 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: call what is? Tell us what a lie is. And 65 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: this sound bite from Joe Biden talking about student loan 66 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: forgiveness and how it came to fruition. Originally, what we've 67 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: provided for is if you went to school, if you 68 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: qualify for a pelgrand, you qualify for two thousand. I mean, 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: can you qualify for twenty thousand dollars in debt forgiveness? Secondly, 70 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: if you don't have one of those loans, you just 71 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: get ten thousand written off. It's passed. I got it 72 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: passed by a vote or two and it's in effect 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and already a total of I think is now thirteen 74 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: million people have applied for that service. Okay, Carol Well 75 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: in that statement doesn't quite sound right. So could it 76 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: be that it passed by a vote or two in 77 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: his household? Is that what he meant? That's my final answer. 78 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: Do I have to say that in the form of 79 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: a question? And what is it's even talking about? I mean, 80 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: here's the thing with it, Joe, I'm not sure that 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: he has any idea what's going on? So this is, 82 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, his interpretation of what somebody's told him over 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: the telephone game. It's not like he's actually involved in 84 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: these decisions, but it's you know, very representative of the 85 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: falsehoods and the lives and the exaggerations, and they're just 86 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: made up stuff that comes out of Joe Biden's mouth. 87 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: And I'm just glad that Cornpop isn't here to see 88 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: all this. Hey, Carol, we have a very young and 89 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: beautiful audience. Can you explain with the telephone game is 90 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: exactly for those who aren't familiar with it? Are people 91 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: not familiar with the tell? I guess, yeah, I guess 92 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: people I gets. Back in the day, it was very different. 93 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: So we used to play this in school, right, Somebody 94 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: would would have a phrase that they would say and 95 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: they would whisper it in the ear of the next person, 96 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: and the next person was hear what they heard and 97 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: whisper it in the ear of the next person. And 98 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: by the time he got like fifteen people down the line. 99 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: What started out as you know, I like joke, Concha 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: is you know black cats, you know, have nice hair. 101 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's fun, and it kind of proved what 102 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: happened as you pass information along, how it gets misinterpreted 103 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: and adapted. But Joe Biden is a telephone game all 104 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: wrapped up in himself, isn't he pretty much? Yes, and 105 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: just celebrated his eightieth birthday. If Joe Biden runs for 106 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: president again and somehow gets the second term, we could 107 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: be looking at an eighty six year old version of 108 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden in the White House sleep tight America. Wow, 109 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: that would be I mean, let's way to say. If 110 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: it didn't affect all of our lives so deeply, it 111 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: would actually be pretty you know, amusing. But unfortunately, it's 112 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: affecting our lives. It's affecting our pocketbooks, it's affecting our freedom, 113 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: it's affecting our national security. So from that respect, it's 114 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: not so funny. Yeah, if he took a night shift 115 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: at like the Quickie Mark, then we're fine with that, right, Okay, 116 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: you got to fill the hour somehow. But this is 117 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: the most powerful person in the world. In theory. We're 118 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: talking to Carol Roth, the great entrepreneur, and Carol, I'm 119 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: just curious as far as these student loans are concerned. 120 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: I think the big story that everybody's missing is while 121 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: you forgive these loans, and something like fifty percent of 122 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: the loans go to those that have a graduate degree 123 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: or a master's degree, and those are the type of 124 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: folks that become lawyers and doctors and go into professions 125 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: where you earn a lot of money where you could 126 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: probably afford to pay back the loan. Won't disjust ultimately 127 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: because it's just a temporary bandit. Let's call it what 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: it is. It was a gambit to get votes from 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: young people that they knew wasn't going to be constitutional, 130 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: that he knew was going to be thrown out. But hey, 131 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: it's after the mid termself they throw it out, so 132 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: be it. It served its purpose. But in the end, 133 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: won't this just if it does somehow survive, raise the 134 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: cost to tuition where at schools like Harvard we're talking 135 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: now north of eighty five thousand dollars a year all 136 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: in just to go or Georgetown eighty thousand, Duke eighty thousand, 137 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: Stanford eighty thousand, or your average States school like where 138 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: I went to the University of Maryland. I think it's 139 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: something like almost fifty thousand dollars a year all in, 140 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: and that's a state school. So I don't see how people, 141 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: even upper middle class can afford to send their kids 142 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: to college at this point. Yeah, I mean that's the 143 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: real tragedy here is that it's not addressing the problem. 144 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, basically, getting the government involved in the student 145 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: lending business, not having any underwriting or risk assessment has 146 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: basically just allowed the colleges to continue to increase their prices, 147 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: not the value of the education, but what they're charging 148 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: for it, and it's become a huge wealth transfer. It's 149 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: basically created students that are indentured servants for the rest 150 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: of their lives. And this doesn't hold them accountable here already, 151 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: it's enabled the colleges to not have any skin in 152 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: the game and to extract more fees. All this does 153 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: is tell them, Okay, well this is working and we 154 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: can continue to do that. And so you know, it's 155 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: very emblematic, emblematic of government and trying to quote unquote 156 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: not solve the problem that they've created. It doesn't address 157 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: the issue of why it's so expensive. If colleges were effective, 158 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: people should be able to pay down their loan. Unfortunately, 159 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: people are not getting a return on that investment, and 160 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: so you know, we have to go back get government 161 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: out of student lending, fix the problem. Otherwise this is 162 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: just going to continue in a really bad trajectory. I 163 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: personally think, Carol Roth, that college is overrated. My brother 164 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: runs a school where basically he trains people to become 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: electricians or contractors. It's a trade school, right, and it's 166 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: in Patterson, New Jersey, which will never be confused with 167 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Fiji or Saint Barts. It's it's a tough town and 168 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: it's like ten minutes from me. So I'm not talking 169 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: down about it in any way, shape or form. I'm 170 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: just saying a lot of kids there they can't afford 171 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: to go to even a community college because they're they're 172 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: priced out right. They grew up in poor families and 173 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: his classes and I'm not doing this to promote my 174 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: brother's business, but his classes are filled to the tilt. 175 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: And when these kids get out, something like ninety seven 176 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: percent of them have jobs waiting for them because there 177 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: is such a demand. Like most of the last time 178 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: you tried to get like a handyman or contractor to 179 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: come to your house and they actually were able to 180 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: come on the day they were supposed to, and then 181 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: they were able to follow up it's such a shortage 182 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: here and I think that we should be talking about 183 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: that a lot more, but that would take sane and 184 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: sober leadership for talking about solutions instead about all the 185 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: things that we seem to focus on. Yeah, unfortunately the 186 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: left has come up with education is a right instead 187 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: of what colleges are providing, which is an accreditation. And 188 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: that's an investment, and so an investment has to be 189 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: evaluated on investment parameters. What kind of return are you 190 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: getting on that investment, And unfortunately, for many students, they're 191 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: not getting anywhere near the appropriate return, if they're getting 192 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: a return at all. And that goes back to your 193 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: point of the trades. In pushing people and saying that 194 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: you have to get this college education and it's so important. 195 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: We've now created this shortage in the important trades and 196 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: skilled areas you mentioned, you know, some of the contractors, 197 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: plumbers and the like. Also things like airline pilots. There's 198 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: going to be a huge shortage. There's very starting, but 199 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: we've got so many people if we're going to be 200 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: retiring over the next twenty years. The airlines are panicking 201 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: and doing whatever they can to try to recruit people 202 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: and these are you know, really well paying jobs. You know, 203 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: these are jobs that you know could be in the 204 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: six figures. So we really need to embrace and talk 205 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: to people about the full range of options. And also 206 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: the things that we're talking about pilots and plumbers and 207 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: electricians and contractors. Those are the kinds of jobs that 208 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: aren't going to be outsourced. They're not going to be 209 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: replaced by robots and so on and so forth. So 210 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: these are really solid jobs with security as the job 211 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: market continues to shift and change. So yes, the narrative 212 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: needs to continue to shift. We need more education, and 213 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: we need to get the government out of the student 214 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: lending business. Well said. She is the author, by the way, 215 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: Carol Roth is of the War on Small Business. Now, 216 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: my people tell me that thousands are now currently on 217 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Amazon since I promoted my book earlier in the segment 218 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: buying my book, make it too to the cart people. 219 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: The War on small business, How the government used the 220 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: pandemic to crush the backbone of America. She is Carol Roth. 221 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Yet even better, Joe, send them to a small business bookseller. 222 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Send them to bookshop dot org. That book fills a 223 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: small business bookseller, so that we can get those small 224 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: businesses getting those dollars, not Amazon. Excellent, excellent point. That's 225 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: why we have you who Carol. By the way, you 226 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: mentioned plumbers before, I can say, given that I had 227 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: a little pipeerst in my basement a couple of days ago, 228 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: the ass crack still lives. I mean, it's amazing how 229 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: consistent plumbers are with that where they just can't seem 230 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: to get the genes that cover that that very sensitive area. 231 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: So I saw another one and it was tremendous. We're 232 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: talking to Carol Roth. You know how I feel, you 233 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: know when any time we talk about plumbing, you know 234 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: how I feel about bid days and the washlets and 235 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: always like to give a plug there that the fact 236 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: that that has not been embraced as widely as it 237 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: should be in this country. I want to just add 238 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: that recommendation to our talk about plumbing, that everybody should 239 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: get a washlet because it's a it's a life changer. Well, 240 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: you know it's funny. Right before we came in the 241 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: arrows talking to the great producer Linda here, and she 242 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: could not advocate the bi day enough, right, she said that, 243 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, she stayed with a guy for like three 244 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: months after the relationship clearly was over because he had 245 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: of the day. So congratulations that land. I'm sorry didn't 246 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: work out, but you must miss that biday. Carol. Have 247 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: you heard of the phrase fake news? This is that 248 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: moment before Thanksgiving? We're having fun. So Carol, just to 249 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: go to a more sober thought here as far as 250 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: the midterms are concerned, given the conditions on the ground, 251 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: with inflation and with crime. You live in Chicago, you 252 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: know it quite well that even the Miracle Mile, you know, 253 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: Michigan Avenue, it is Chicago's my favorite cities. You know this, Uh, 254 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: there's no place anymore. Right, just doesn't happen in the 255 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: bad parts. Given inflation, given crime, given what's happening with 256 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: the US southern border, given that we have an unpopular 257 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: president in the White House. What happened to that red 258 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: wave that somebody folks like me you were talking about. Yeah, 259 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: it is staggering, Like if you can't win with these 260 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: economic conditions and the broader social conditions, it makes it 261 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: really challenging to think of what it would take to 262 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: get some people to switch their votes. My personal feeling 263 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: and I know some people aren't going to be happy 264 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: about this is that I think that the Republicans lean 265 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: too heavily into some of the social issues, and not 266 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: to say that they're not important, but fix them in 267 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: your communities, not with the government, and didn't spend enough 268 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: time really hammering on not only the economy but what 269 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: they would do to fix it. And so, you know, 270 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: I think this is an opportunity for lessons to be 271 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: learned and for prioritizing. But again, you know, we're we're 272 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: so far gone as a as a population that you know, 273 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: it's hard to say that even with that focus, if 274 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: that would have shifted thing. That's the thing, right, it's 275 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: more about voting against the other party than voting for 276 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: the party that you may support to just to own 277 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: them or something, or you just have this this notion 278 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: that one side is evil. It becomes down like good 279 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: versus evil, like we're watching Star Wars or all over again. 280 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: And that's that's that's a big deal anyway, Carol, thank 281 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us once again. The book 282 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: is the war on small business. She's right, go to 283 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: a local bookstore, support your local businesses, whether it be 284 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: buying books or whether it be buying clothes or buying 285 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: food that they could all use your help right now. Certainly, Carol, 286 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: you enjoy your Thanksgiving weekend. I assume you'll stay in 287 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: Chicago absolutely, and you have a wonderful Thanksgiving as well. 288 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: And I'm going to do my family a solid. I'm 289 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: not going to actually cook anything. I'm just going to 290 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: bring something so that everybody can actually eat it and 291 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: be happy. Good. You're bringing Arby's again, and everybody loves Arvys, 292 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: so thank you, Carrel. Have a good one. All right. 293 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: It's the second hour of the Sean Hannity's Show. Joe 294 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: Conscha in from mister Hannity back with more in just 295 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: a moment. Come on, man, it's taking me forty seven 296 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: years to perfect doing nothing. I had to become president 297 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: to show yeah, I could do that better than anybody. 298 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: Joe Biden the most dangerous man in America. This is 299 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show, and welcome back Joe Conscha sitting 300 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: here for Sean Hannity The Sean Hannity's Show. Coming up. 301 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: An amazing group, Boulder Crest Foundations, centered on post traumatic 302 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: growth and supporting veterans and first responders. They have a 303 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: new campaign It's called Operations struggle well, in addition to 304 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: their annual holiday dinners and staying at their locations. You're 305 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: gonna want to hear from these folks. I mean, this 306 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: is truly what Thanksgiving is all about, giving back without 307 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: asking for anything in return, back with more than moment. 308 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: This is Joe Konchen. Hannity is on right now. Oh 309 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: he isn't Scott Shannon. It's Joe Cootcha filling in for 310 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity. I listened to Scott Shannon when I was 311 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: like eight on w PLJ here in New York, and 312 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: maybe it was the one hundred. Now it was PLJ. 313 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: So it's funny like having him in my ear, and 314 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: he sounds great. He's still doing an awesome job. Thank you, 315 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Scot Shannon. Well, let us welcome, and this is a 316 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: special guest only because here we are the day before 317 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and so many of us are going to celebrate 318 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: with our families or we're gonna travel somewhere to see 319 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: our families. These folks are going to be working hard. 320 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: They had been working hard as far as what they 321 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: do to give back to their communities and then some 322 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: particularly to veterans. Let's introduce Ken Falk He's the founder 323 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: and chairman and Josh Goldberg co founder and executive director 324 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: of boulder Krest. Get that name in your head. Boulder 325 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: Rest a foundation centered around post traumatic growth in supporting 326 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: veterans and first responders. Bouldercrest they have this new campaign 327 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: called Operations Struggle Well in addition to their annual holiday 328 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: dinners and stays at their locations. Let's play their current 329 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: campaign and you gotta give a listen to this scope. Hello. 330 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: My name is ken Fall. I spent twenty one years 331 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: in the US Navy as a bomb disposal specialist. Early 332 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, my wife Julia 333 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: and I started to charity to help severely physically wounded 334 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: bomb disposal personnel and their families. Ten years later, that charity, 335 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: Bouldercrest Foundation, has helped over fifty thousand deserving men and women. 336 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: At Bouldercrest, we trained veterans and first responders to transform 337 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: their past struggles into future strength through a process called 338 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: post traumatic growth. We are very proud to report that 339 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: it's making a significant difference in the lives of these 340 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: heroes who stand up for us every day. But we 341 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: cannot do us alone. Please help us by donating ten 342 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: dollars a month to continue to offer our programming free 343 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: of charge to those remarkable men and women that we 344 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: call heroes. To learn more, check out Bouldercrest dot org. 345 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and let's bring in Ken Falk 346 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: and Josh Goldberg. Gentlemen, thanks for joining us on the 347 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having us. 348 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Good question for you. Yeah, of course some folks may 349 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: be a little confused about what post traumatic growth is. 350 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: You know, what it was here about syndrome, But how 351 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: do you define that exactly? Well, you're you're right. I 352 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: think most people, you know, they hear post traumatic and 353 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: then the next thing that they're expecting to hear is 354 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: stress disorder. Post Traumatic growth is a science that came 355 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: out of the University of North Carolina back in the 356 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: early in the commid nineties, and the concept of post 357 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: traumatic growth at the highest level is what doesn't kill 358 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: us makes us stronger and the idea that after a 359 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: traumatic event, what we can actually do learn from un 360 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: can allow us to become a better version of ourselves 361 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: or thrive, uh, you know, in the aftermath of that trauma. 362 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: And Ken you spend the majority of your time educating 363 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: the public and private sectors on the issue surrounding the 364 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: long term care of our returning military personnel and their families. 365 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, we we've pulled somebody folks out recently, obviously 366 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: Afghanistan a year ago August, the Iraq war as well. Uh, 367 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: we basically have nobody over there when they've come home. 368 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: What is the one condition that you've seen most that 369 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: that seems to have an impact on them that isn't 370 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: going away anytime soon. You know, I think the thing 371 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: we see most is probably post traumatic stress. But there's 372 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: a lot of depression and stress around just the military 373 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: transition in general terms. You know, the military is a 374 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: very tight knit group of people, and you know, when 375 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: you're separated from that, you know, and and sent back 376 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: to a place where it's it's it's not that um, 377 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: it becomes a very difficult way to live life. And 378 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: and and I think that stress us and the missing 379 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: of their brothers and sisters, I think is really where 380 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: we see the biggest challenges that come from this community. 381 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: And you know, as a kid, I grew up in 382 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, outside of DC during the Vietnam War, and 383 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we still see the Vietnam generation, you know, 384 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: suffering with the same thing. So you know, I tell 385 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: everybody every day, these these invisible injuries of war don't 386 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: get better with age. And I and I worry a 387 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: lot about this generation. And Josh Goldberg, when you see 388 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: reports about veterans being homeless, about veterans being on food stamps, 389 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean that that must be something. As somebody who 390 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: has led the development delivery study scale of post traumatic 391 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: growth based solutions, you know you must see this and 392 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: just to scratch your head, like, how can we do 393 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: that to people that sacrifice so much for us and 394 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: protecting this country? Cool? And it's a pollen, right, And 395 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: I think you go back to George Washington who said 396 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: they're likelihood of the next generation that is going to 397 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: be based on how this generation is treated and fair. 398 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: And I think you know it does it worries you 399 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: from a national security perspective of nothing else. And I 400 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: think when you look in particular at the suicide statistics, 401 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, what I don't understand, what I've shake my 402 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: head at, is we have lost more people every year 403 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: where military and veterans the suicide than we have in 404 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: the wars and a racking Afghanistan, and we lose more 405 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: people in terms of police to suicide than the line 406 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: of duty. And these are dangerous jobs they're doing. And 407 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 1: that's where you have to say that we have got 408 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: to stop, and we've got to figure out how to 409 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: show up for these folks, because there's no question when 410 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: we need help, when we need protection, when we need 411 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: people to go to the front lines, they don't hesitate. 412 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: And I think what we're asking for is part of 413 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: this effort is we have to return that favor and 414 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: try to figure out how do we be how are 415 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: we there for them? And we've got to do something differently, 416 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: And that's what this whole Postraumatic Growth effort is about. 417 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: Is far too many of these men and women feel 418 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: like they get a diagnosis and it's a death sentence 419 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: for the rest of their life and it's going to 420 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: be a permanent, permanently diminished life. And they deserve better 421 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: than that, and we deserve better than that, and we 422 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: need these men and women. They're the pillars of strength 423 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: in our society, and you're darn right we don't. We 424 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: don't want them on the streets, we don't want them 425 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: on foot stats We don't want them in early graves. 426 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: We need them to be leaders in our communities because 427 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: that's when we're at our strong end. We're talking to 428 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: Ken Falk and Josh Goldberg of the Bouldercrest Institute. That's 429 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: a studding and horrifying stat you just shared as far 430 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: as more folks are serving coming back home committing suicide 431 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: than actually died in the line of duty. What is 432 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: the primary driver as far as what would have someone 433 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: get to a point where where they take their own 434 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: lives and possibly in many cases probably leave families behind him. 435 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: What what ultimately do you see as far as them 436 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: getting to that point of no return? Well, I think 437 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: is kenn help people all the time. I think suicide 438 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: is a disease of hopelessness. You know, when you get 439 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: to the point where you can't see what anything's going 440 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: to get better tomorrow or the next day or the 441 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: next day. And you know the three major you know, 442 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: causes of suicide our depression, our substance abuse, and our 443 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: undiagnosed or misdiagnosed traumatic brain injuries, which a lot of 444 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: people during these last two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan 445 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: and received because of all the explosions and in the 446 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: closeness of the explosions that many of them has been 447 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: and we just haven't done enough for the traumatic brain 448 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: injury work, or the depression work, or the substance abuse work. 449 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the ninety seven percent of people 450 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: that go through substance abuse care, you know, come out 451 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: and they still have to go back the second time. 452 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: It's just the system doesn't work. And that's what we're 453 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: really trying to do a Bouldercrest is come up with 454 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: a new way of triage and these injuries and to 455 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: get people better so that they can thrive in the 456 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: aftermath of the trauma and not get to this, you know, 457 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: this this state of hopelessness where where suicide becomes an option. 458 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: We're talking to Ken Falcon Josh Goldberg of the Bouldercrest Foundation, 459 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: organization focused on the wellness teachings of post traumatic growth. Ken, 460 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: you were just inducted into the Veterans Hall of Fame. 461 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: That must have been quite an honor. What was it? 462 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: What was it like? What I feel like? Well, you know, 463 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: for me, it was I don't like awards, so I'm 464 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: a little bit embarrassed by But you know, I think 465 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: the thing that I was most honored by with the 466 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: other people, the other five and specifically one guy, Jam Scruggs. 467 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know the name, Jam Scruggs, 468 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: the Jams, the one who basically raised the money and 469 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: policy through the the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Washington, DC. 470 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: And you know, Jan Jans just an amazing man. And 471 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: for me to be, you know, in a category anywhere 472 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: near that guy, it's just it's humbling and it was 473 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: an interesting event, but it's I'm just I'm just not 474 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: an awards guy now nearly why I think it's something 475 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: you know, don't make it about yourself. It's about the cause, 476 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: and that's why you do what you do along with Josh. 477 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: But we do just just to feed into your non 478 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: existent ego just a little bit. Well, you have your 479 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: biggest fan here and that is Linda, our producer, who 480 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: can't speak highly enough of you guys. And when she 481 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: asked me to fill in, she said, by the way, 482 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: we're doing this the day before Thanksgiving and you're going 483 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: to talk to Boldercrest and here's why. So, Linda, I 484 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: know you have a couple of questions for the boys 485 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: as well. Yes, full disclosure. I love Boulder Crust, I 486 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: am working with them, I donate to them. They're a 487 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: fantastic group. And I think it's you know, this at 488 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: the time of Thanksgiving, and I think one of the 489 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: things that I know Josh talks about this a lot. 490 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: You know, the holiday season is one of our highest 491 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: times of suicide among people who work these very difficult 492 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: first responder and military jobs. And I think, Josh, maybe 493 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: you could just discuss that just a little bit and 494 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: talk about how we can be more aware of what 495 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: we can do to help. And then I'm going to 496 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: go back and embarrass Hin a little bit about his 497 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: military service. Yeah, And I think, and I just echo 498 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: in Kensa Hum think he's the epitome of why it's 499 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: so important that we allow veterans to kind of continue 500 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: to transition and live great lives. He's just he's an 501 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: amazing man. In the mention, you know, it's your question, 502 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: and I think there's two parts of that. There's no 503 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: question I think for folks who you know, you've got 504 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: divorce rates and first responder land at seventy five percent, 505 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: you've got to ninety percent divorce rate within special ops, 506 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: and so people who are sitting there reflecting on their 507 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: own in the holidays, all alone with alcohol and the 508 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: rest of it creates a world where I think it 509 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: really crystallizes the scort shirt nature of people's lives when 510 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: they really go through struggle. And so part of it 511 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: really is just the act of reaching out to another 512 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: human being. And if you think about somebody to text 513 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: the say hey, I'm thinking about you, because you have 514 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: no idea how much that means to somebody, And it 515 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: goes to this broader idea and broader sort of I 516 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: think narrative in our society is the people who are 517 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: said to be essential keep feeling left to be disposable. Right, 518 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: you know, we send our troops out ghanastic and they 519 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: believe they die, they watch their friends die, and we 520 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: withdraw and they essentially feel like what was it for? Right? 521 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: Does my life even matter? And it's the same with 522 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: the police. It's to defund the police stuff. It's like, 523 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: I'm willing to put my life on the line for 524 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: society that does not value and I think it really 525 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: does contribute to struggle. And so you've got you know, 526 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: the mental health system telling you you're broken, You've got 527 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: society telling you they don't really care, and you're left 528 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: and then you're just dealing with a lot of stress 529 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: and sling professionally. And I think it's easy to see 530 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: why that's such a toxic cocktail. And so part of 531 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: what we have to do isn't just to do programs, 532 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: but I think it's we have to change the nature 533 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: of all our societal narrative about trauma, about struggle, and 534 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: we've we've got to show up for these men and women, 535 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes that just means saying thank you, acknowledging the 536 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: value they provide, and being grateful for the things that 537 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: they do. Absolutely, and ken you, you got a big 538 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: year coming up next year. And for what I'm seeing, 539 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: you've been married to your wife Julia for thirty nine years, 540 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: you're coming up on forty. That's a lot of pressure. 541 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: You know, you got to find something that you haven't 542 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: bought for her before. And the shopping for the wife 543 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: is very tough. That I've learned forty years. You know, 544 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: the bomb disposals guy in the Navy and in the military, 545 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: that's CEO D Explosive Ordinance Disposal And in the Navy, 546 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: it was a joke when I first joined the Heart 547 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: for everyone's divorce. So we've we've made it. We've made 548 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: it through a lot of a lot of turmoil, and 549 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: they had a great marriage and a great family. Good 550 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: for you and and Josh, we can't let you go 551 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: with aout talking about you know, before I transferred University 552 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: of Maryland, I was an Emerson College guy in the 553 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: back day of Boston, and I always just remember like 554 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: going to the coolest party of Tufts, And I just 555 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: wonder if you remember back that far to say, yeah, 556 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, Tufts was a tough school, but also, boy, 557 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: you guys could do keg stands like nobody's business. We 558 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: had some very good parties. The ones that stick in 559 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: my minders some ice luge iluge yours if I wanted 560 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: to put my mouth on that, but it was. It 561 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: was a great experience. I love Boston. I love the 562 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: food up there, and and I did fall in love 563 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: with the Red Sox as well, So U judge me 564 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: if you will, but I did. It was an amazing 565 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: experience to get to go to school there and I think, uh, 566 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: you know, study the world and get to where I 567 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: am today. It's just amazing. I had a love hate 568 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: relationship with the Red Sox in a sense where Emerson, 569 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: where I lived, was right over Kenmore Square basically, and 570 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: then you could look into Fenway almost at least you 571 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: could see the Green Monster. But then that damn sick 572 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: Go sign, you know, that's above the wall. It was 573 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: right in my window. I had to put up like 574 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: heifty bags over it because I didn't go off until 575 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: exactly at the strike of midnight. So that that's what 576 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: I remember. I Boston's probably why I transferred Lindon, and 577 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: I think about it like I gotta sign yeah, first 578 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: first roll problems, no question about it. Hey, guys, how 579 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: do we donate to Boulder Crest? As far as I know, 580 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: go to the website, But is there faster ways to 581 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: do this where we could get as much money in 582 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: the cofference as possible for the most worthy cause. I 583 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: could think of it this holiday season. Thank you for 584 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: saying that. It's you know, there's so many great causes 585 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: and we do need help, but it's it's it's the 586 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: easiest thing is to go to the website. There's a 587 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: click donate button and you can put your credit card information, 588 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: and it's We've made it as easy as possible right 589 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: on the flat on the front page. That's great to hear. 590 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: And how much of you raise so far just a 591 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: ballpark category. Well, you know, we we have to raise 592 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: every year about eight and a half million dollars, and 593 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: for this campaign right now we've raised about two hundred 594 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and goals to raise a million, so we're 595 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: we had a long way to go and we could 596 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: resolve that. Help we can get well being on seven 597 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: hundred stations right now if certainly, I hope will help Linda, 598 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: I know you had want to put in one more 599 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: plug for one more worthy cause in the organization. So 600 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: you've got Operations Struggle, Well, just tell people about Operations 601 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: Struggle well this new campaign and how we're going to 602 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: be putting out more information on that. Yeah, you know, 603 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: our focus is on serving fifteen hundred combat veterans as 604 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: first responders as part of this Operation to Struggle. Well, 605 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: So the funding we're seeking, the million dollars can mentioned 606 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: is really designed to help us transform the lights of 607 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred people. And what I would say to anybody 608 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: listening is is the commitment we have is it's really 609 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: about transformation. It's not catching the leaves, it's not one 610 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: and done. It's not a few days away. This is 611 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: really about fundamentally changing people's lives and allowing them to 612 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: then change the lights of the people and their family 613 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: and in their community. And so it pays evidence everywhere 614 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: down the line. 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