1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: From grandmothers who whispered in their baby girl in two 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: fathers on dimly lit street corners, instructing young soldiers to 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: always keep their eyes open. You be queen, you were fired, 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: You will passed through centuries on the hands of your daughters. 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: They called you wisdom. Proverbs on the backs of diamond 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: eyed school children who growing into hymnals recited by amethyst 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: holding urban philosophers who recited neighborhood commandments out of the 8 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: windows of restored ALCHEMYO chariots to keep the warmth of 9 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: their blood. Be wise, be smart, being black, Opal Brown 10 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: courts bloodstone and prayer. Be every form of Jim se 11 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: King told, scribe, scribe, told son, son, told wife, wife, 12 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: told her daughter, and daughter told the sisters, and the 13 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: ancestors told me that you would come to give you wisdom. 14 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Thousands they said you would come Dropping Dropping Jim. Hey, 15 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: welcome to the Dropping Gym's podcast. I'm your host, Debbie Brown. 16 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you for joining us today, 17 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: and thank you for choosing yourself first and foremost, because 18 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: every moment that you spend with this show is the 19 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: moment that you are investing in your own process, in 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: your healing. And in all of the beautiful things that 21 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: you will co create in your life from this moment forward. 22 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: So thank you for spending time with you and spending 23 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: time with me. So this is part two of our 24 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: beautiful conversation with the amazing spirit, spiritual teacher and yoga expert, author, 25 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: healer Jessamine Stanley. I have been loving sinking into all 26 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: of the wisdom that Jessamine has cultivated and shared in 27 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: all of the ways that she serves really for the 28 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: collective ascension and betterment of us all. So we are 29 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: diving into part two now, and make sure this is 30 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: really resonating. Go ahead and share this episode with a friend, 31 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: drop a comment on the I g or leave a comment. 32 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: Here we go. The quote that's often said that I 33 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: think is very often weaponized is you know, I'm a 34 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm a soul having a human experience. And I think 35 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: that that you know. The thing about a lot of 36 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: the beautiful teachings and I and and the quotings that 37 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: we hear is you meet it at the level you 38 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: have met yourself. And so your your ability to interpret, 39 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: your ability to have discernment or to translate divine messages 40 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: is still limited by how much healing that you have 41 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: done or how deeply you know yourself, and so even 42 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: those teachings can be weaponized against ourselves, and so it's 43 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: so important to keep like investigating it, you know, and 44 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: from the new angle, never be unwilling. Let's saying this 45 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: ship for myself. I'm saying, I'm not trying to tell 46 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: anybody else. Want to never being afraid to go back 47 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: to square one, to just be in the the newness 48 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: of it. The god m I think, because there's this 49 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: desire to always master or to like get to some 50 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: kind of stopping point, and the reality is that if 51 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: you are still in the game of life that's not 52 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: over it, then it is still there's still plenty to learn, 53 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: and you can go back to level one right now, 54 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and it is always level one. It's always there's never 55 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: any kind of the truth is so simple and complex 56 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: that have to start from the beginning every single day. 57 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: And it doesn't even matter what you have, what you 58 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: knew before, Like it's irrelevant because because you change, because 59 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: you evolved, and that really is the beauty of being 60 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: in this duality, like being this this world. It's amazing. 61 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: It is so sad sometimes, but it is amazing, and 62 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: I think that like it's there's never any preparation for 63 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: how there's never any like I mean, there is preparation for, 64 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: but there's never any real preparation for like the true 65 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: depth of sadness that it can and will get to. 66 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: Like if you the longer you live, the more they're 67 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: the more whatever the next sad thing is going to be, 68 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: it's going to be sad. And it's just like that 69 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: part of it is. Um it is a tough pill 70 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: to swallow. And I think that I understand all of 71 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: the having different reactions to that, you know, like everybody 72 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: coming to a different conclusion about that truth. But I 73 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: feel like the more that it can or at least 74 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: my plan of attack when I'm when I'm practicing over here, 75 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: it's just like be in the beginning, fall over, stumble 76 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: flat on your face, bloody knows, nurse you're hurting me, 77 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: Get back up, try to toddle again. God, I love that. God, 78 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: That's beautiful every day as the beginning. But the way 79 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: the way I'm experiencing you say that, mm hmm, I 80 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: feel it in myselfs you know, because I think and 81 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: again I think this goes to mm hmm, there's so 82 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: much here and what you just said, Um, the depth 83 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: and being willing to begin the depth and being willing 84 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: to be a novice each day is the mastery, is 85 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing. And what you said that ability you 86 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: are arriving as the master when each day you strip 87 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: yourself and begin anew exactly. But it's so hard when 88 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: you're also a know it all hermione any granger at 89 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: st I'm only humans, good God anyway, Well, and yeah, 90 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: it's so you know with the human peace. Um, it's 91 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: like what I what I surmise out of that quote 92 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: of you know, we are all spiritual beings have any 93 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: human experience. I chose to be human right now, and 94 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: so I have to honor that. My spirit chose to 95 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: be human, So I have to also honor my human 96 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: which does mean to something you shared earlier, I can 97 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: get mad, I can get piste off at this place. 98 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: I can being an acceptance and I think and I 99 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 1: hope that for someone listening this in some way gives 100 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: a freedom. Being an acceptance doesn't mean it's your preference, 101 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, like being in deep acceptance of something or 102 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: the world. It doesn't mean that you like it. And 103 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that it's where you want to stay, 104 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that it's your preference, you know. 105 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: It just means I'm accepting that this is right now, 106 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: in this moment, whatever a moment is, whatever time is, 107 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: that this is what is. And I can still diligently 108 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: move towards more, but I can't do it from a 109 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: space of against nous for what is currently unfolding. There 110 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: has to be a gratitude that even if I don't 111 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: understand this, and also even if I don't like it, 112 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: I have a trust that it's serving a higher purpose 113 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: and a higher vision than I have access to as 114 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: this current version of me. And I think that that 115 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: is the thing that is at least under our most 116 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: misunderstood about acceptance is that you don't have to like 117 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: it too, accept it like very In fact, nobody said 118 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: anything about liking anything. It's just it's a totally different concept. 119 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: But I think the acceptance and happiness have somehow been 120 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: equated with one another. And so there's this thing of like, like, well, 121 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm accepting, so I gotta be happy. You know, you 122 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: should be pissed about it, and and you don't. There's 123 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: this UM. And honestly, I wouldn't know if this is 124 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: like specifically an American thing or not, but I think 125 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: at least in America, there is a feeling of like 126 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: like you want to constantly be doing better, like always 127 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: be on the on the the path of growth and change, 128 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: and that if you decide to accept, then that is 129 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: the opposite of growth and change, and that no, you 130 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: should never be accepting. You should always be seeing something else. 131 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: But if you are constantly seeking something else and never accepting, 132 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: how do you even know what you're working towards, how 133 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: you're you're not even present to what is actually happening. 134 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: This is not shade or anybody, Oh, this is self shade. 135 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: Like I think that there's a feeling of like like 136 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: I have to especially UM as an entrepreneur, as with 137 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: someone who shows up in capitalism. I think that there 138 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: is this constant check for me of like, Okay, so 139 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: what is the motivation here, what's going on? What does 140 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: this really have to do with? Because I think that 141 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: it can become about striving for striving sake as opposed 142 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: to like living in the truth and doing what the 143 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: universe is asking. But but then the the yoga practitioner 144 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: me is like, but it's just startful though, because you're 145 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: still always doing what should have been. Also here literally 146 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: talking about alf into a circle all day about philosophy, 147 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: and you know, it's so funny, Like I love that 148 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: because that is what this is. And I think, you know, 149 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: and that's the piece that I think people grow into 150 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: an appreciation of when they are working with spiritual teachers 151 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: and also people in mastery. It's like, I think we 152 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: are always an existential crisis, right, Like we are in peace, 153 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: but we are always in a profound philosophical debate inside 154 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: of our minds during our experience. Sometimes I'll be out 155 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: and people say like, why are you looking like that? 156 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: Or sometimes I'll be sitting at a dinner and I 157 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: can't help it, like my eyes involuntarily shut and I'll 158 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: just sit there like this, and I'm like, I I 159 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: am processing in real time, i am investigating. I'm seeing 160 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: where what I just heard or shared landed, and then 161 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm sending some love there, or I'm I'm filing it 162 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: away and saying I will revisit this later. Um, I'm 163 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: allowing it to be fed into my cells, you know, 164 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: And that's what you know, I guess that's also present 165 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: moment awareness and what we strive to experience. But you know, 166 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: I think it it is so important for everyone to 167 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: know and you ship in the way that you have 168 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: expressed here and also in your books. And I love 169 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: that because it gives a permission like, yes you are 170 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: in mastery. Yes you are a spiritual guide, you are 171 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: a teacher, you are a light worker for this planet. 172 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: And you are in your destiny and in your dharma 173 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: right now in a in a massive way. And you 174 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: are also constantly in a philosophical debate with self. You 175 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: are also constantly investigating even the things that you firmly believe. 176 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's this always this expression of softness and 177 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: rigidity and opening um and it's just it. I mean, 178 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: I just have to say, from experiencing you in this moment, 179 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: it's absolutely exquisite and I feel really grateful. I'm too 180 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: curious about two things, One of what your sun moon 181 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: rising signs are and to if you consider yourself an 182 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: introvert or an extrovert or not. I love these questions. 183 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: So first, I'm a double Gemini with the Leo rising 184 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: very interest. That was a sneak attack, Okay, I need 185 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: the whole natal chart. Do we want to talk about 186 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: galactic origins, because there's there's many a place. I come 187 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: from the sun, from the central sun, um, also Heydarian, Octorian, 188 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: There's so many. You know. I do consider myself to 189 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: be an extrovert, but I by nature of my human experience, 190 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm an only child raised by a single parent. I 191 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: was a latchkey kid and walked myself home and took 192 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: care of self. And so the nature of that also 193 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: means that though I'm an extrovert, I am always firmly 194 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: planted inside of my body in my process, or at 195 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: least when even when I wasn't inside of my body, 196 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: inside of my head. Um. So yeah, always an investigation. Wow. 197 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: I love how a Gemini extrovert could could show up 198 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: that way, because that to be well, to be in 199 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: your own head, like to be thinking a lot. That 200 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: that to me is like deep trademark of the Gemini 201 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: is in in thought. But to be in thought and 202 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: also like really that that would create a very specific 203 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: expression of extroversion. I just think it's fascinating. But I 204 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: definitely identify as an introvert. And so what you were 205 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: saying about just closing your eyes in conversation with people. 206 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: That is like the to be where I'm able to 207 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: do that and know that it's okay or well. I 208 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: guess it's not even really that. It's more like I 209 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: don't care. It's it's called somewhat closer to I don't care. 210 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: But being able to feel that, to me, it's like 211 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: such a blessing at this stage, because I think there 212 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: is mm hmm a not much need for talking most 213 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: of the time. I think there's more of a need for, 214 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: at least for me, there's a need to receive. And 215 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: I think that I feel a lot of pressure to 216 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: speak in that that it comes from that. But I 217 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: feel like that experience of just being able to fully 218 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: received what any other human being is expressing is just 219 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: such a gift and it really only ever comes from 220 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: me personally through silence. So I identified with that deeply. 221 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: I would love um to talk with you about one 222 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: of my favorite subjects, which is cannabis. Oh yes, right, 223 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and can I I think this might be the first 224 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: time I've said this publicly, but I was late to 225 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: the cannabis train. I actually, um, I didn't even start 226 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: till my thirties hell, yeah, that sounds that is beautiful 227 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: that I had. So I started um my like regularly 228 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: in my early twenties. But that to me, and even 229 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: now talking to like weedeads, I feel like that's pretty 230 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: late too. And but I appreciate adulthood for like really 231 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: being the space of reckoning with the plant that like, yeah, 232 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: you just really need is the end results, honestly, And 233 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: I think that there's more there's more debate on this 234 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: topic than is absolutely necessary, because I'm like, it just 235 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,239 Speaker 1: is we all are, we all need to be healing ourselves, 236 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: and this is something that is such a huge part 237 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: of that. It's also like one of my most favorite 238 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: topics in this world. So I'm excited, you know what. 239 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: I found it to be um such a beautiful spiritual experience, 240 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: and I think even being able to surrender to my 241 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: enjoyment of it was for me part of my spiritual process, 242 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: especially because of the stigmatization around it and also like 243 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: the structures of oppression and growing up and watching people 244 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: lose their lives literally or lose their freedom literally because 245 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: of this natural growing plant that Odd gave to earth. 246 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: And so then there's also to me a little bit 247 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: of um anger that I process that comes up when 248 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: I see how like everyone is so oh weed and 249 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, have a weed bath bomb and this d 250 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: dad and it's like cool, cool people have died, Like 251 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: people have lost so much when this was, when this 252 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: was marred and when this was showcased under a lens 253 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: of evil, wrong, lazy, um criminal, and it's like now 254 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: it's just oh yeah, go to your in l A. 255 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: So it's like, oh yeah, go across the street and 256 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: and they'll bring you some sparkling water with indica and 257 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: they'll do and you're just like wow, like the reckoning 258 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: of it being such a sacred indigenous practice and then 259 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: capitalism criminalizes it and millions of people have been forever 260 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: changed in a negative light because of it. And then 261 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: now it's like having its moment in the sun. Even 262 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: that duality, and that is so um sometimes really challenging 263 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: to be in the intersection of absolutely, I mean honestly, 264 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: it's all it is being in states where cannabis is 265 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: legal that I have been most like that. That is 266 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: where my organization We Go High was born. Was good 267 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: out of going to states where it's legal and seeing 268 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: this gentrification of weed where it's like it's gentrification of 269 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: weed culture. It's complete disrespect for the people who have 270 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: been consistently using this plant for way longer than I 271 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: could even count, and being just seeing it be like, oh, yeah, 272 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: no big deal, you know it's a problem. And then 273 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: in the same states, to see this beyond the legal market, 274 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: this the stigma of what it means to be a 275 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: cannabis users still prevails, and the effects, the second and 276 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: third degree effects of cannabis prohibition, incarceration. To your point, 277 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: the number of people that are impacted from just what 278 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: could seem like relatively small incidents are life altering for 279 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: so many people. And just to continue to see that 280 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: like it's marginalized. As a conversation, I was like, we 281 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: gotta do something, and it cannot be about trying to 282 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: make any plant legal. The plant doesn't a lot with 283 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: This is beyond the legal system. This we're really talking about, 284 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: like what it means to take care of yourself as 285 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: a human being, and that all human beings deserved to 286 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: have this. It shouldn't be like only if you have 287 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: a terminal illness or only if you like are able 288 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: to have the resources to go to this dispensary. In 289 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: this state, like, no, it's got to be that, and 290 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: it can't be that it's okay to talk about it 291 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: only when you are like at the dispensary or with 292 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: your friends who also smoke weed or whatever. It needs 293 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: to be on the same tip that someone could say 294 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: I take a legra, it should be like I enjoy 295 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: a wedding cake. Like that is the level. It can't 296 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: be something that you have to I mean, if this 297 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: is me pretending as though cannabis and spirituality have not 298 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: always moved in tandem. The being able to cleanse and 299 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: sweep out the talk about coming home to yourself and 300 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: being in your own body, like being able to even 301 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: remember that this is a body. It's not just something 302 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: that it's not all that there is. It's it's a 303 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: meat suit, that it's a rental meat suit that really 304 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: like kind of anything happened to it. It's like it's whatever, 305 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: Like it belongs to this earth and we're not always 306 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: on this earth, so like it really doesn't even matter 307 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: what happens to it, And it is so hard to 308 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: remember that when you, like when your mind has got 309 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: you so invested in the physicality of this experience, but 310 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: like it's just not even about that, and cannabis really 311 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: makes that a lot easier to understand. But I think 312 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: that that idea you said something about um having to 313 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: give yourself over to the to enjoying it. Like that 314 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: idea of being able to enjoy it, that is something 315 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: that I think is really difficult for people because we 316 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: live in a world that is not about being happy. 317 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: It's about being sad, and it its capitalism specifically, really 318 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: profits off of us feeling sad. And so you think, 319 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: like something makes me happy, especially on medicine, it makes 320 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: me happy, that you gotta be something wrong with that. 321 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: That's that's not that's that's something dangerous, and it's like 322 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: that's how that's how it should be, you should be. 323 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: We're supposed to enjoy, you know. And then it's such 324 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: a beautiful opportunity to investigate the against us we have 325 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: to our own joy and the way that we are 326 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: influenced without fully understanding the things that are shared with us. 327 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: That was a big takeaway for me because really, I mean, 328 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: I grew up I'm born in the eighties, so I 329 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: grew up with a DARE campaign and I believed it. 330 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: I was like, not my brain on drugs I'm not 331 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: about to be that egg, you know, right, I have 332 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: my Dare shirt on with the lion and I was like, 333 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: say no, and you know, and and not to take 334 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: away from that that was powerful because you know, it 335 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: also kept you from other drugs that are not medicines 336 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: of the earth. Um. But I remember being so judgmental, 337 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: so judgmental about people that smoked, and I thought it 338 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: was actually a badge of honor to say, oh, I 339 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: don't smoke. No, I don't smoke. You know, I used 340 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: to work in the entertainment industry, so everywhere I was, 341 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: people go to hand you, oh, I don't smoke. And 342 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: I thought that that somehow was me being like different 343 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: and shoal and I'm so mature and like And then 344 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you have deprived. When I started 345 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: smoking a couple of years ago, I said, oh, you 346 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: have deprived yourself your whole life. I said, oh, baby, 347 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: you poor thing. You could have been used this, you 348 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: could have been had this joy. MM it is here. No, 349 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. And as a tool and I and 350 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: I really bring this forward because and I shared this 351 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: at the beginning of our conversation. UM, seen you light 352 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: up before you did your spiritual experience with yourself was 353 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: beautiful to behold. And it was the first time I 354 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: had seen it done. And this is a couple of 355 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: years ago when I first found your page. It was 356 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: the first time I had not just seen it done, 357 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: but seen it done in front of an audience, and 358 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: in front of an audience that wasn't to your point, 359 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: like minded people, other enthusiasts, other people that were connected 360 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: to their spiritual self. And so the freedom and that 361 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: the freedom in that and I'm sure it might have 362 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: felt just you being you, but the freedom of you 363 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: being you as a lighthouse for others like that was 364 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: actually profound to witness, and it it extended such a 365 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: permission um And now in my practice, it's I I 366 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: am so proud to say how grateful I am for 367 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: for cannabis. I'm so grateful that cannabis exists. It has 368 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: saved me in so many ways, and it has given 369 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: me such a deeper layer of access to me and 370 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: you know the and sometimes it's it's as simple as 371 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: I feel like smoking because it's a beautiful day and 372 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: I want to I want to experience this a little 373 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: more deeply, or it's I'm doing a sacred ritual and ceremony, 374 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: and I've meditated for an hour and now I've lit 375 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: up my altar and now I am invoking things and 376 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm smoking. So that I can journey and so that 377 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: I can go, you know, set an intention and say 378 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: this is what I'd like to explore, like, help me 379 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: heal this, and then I have that sacred container to 380 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: now rest within myself. You know. Um, it's it's a 381 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: beautiful tool. It's a beautiful gift. Um, yeah, exactly right, 382 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: that is I just think. I mean, Okay, So in 383 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: my book Yoke, My Yoga of Self Acceptance, I've wanted 384 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: to talk about plant medicine, but specifically about cannabis because 385 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: I felt like this is one of the most important 386 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: parts of my spiritual life, and I think it's a 387 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: the one of the cornerstones of my personal wellness. It's 388 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: a daily practice for me. It's something that allows me 389 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: to actually do all of this. It's how I'm able 390 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: to put on all these different hats and be present 391 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: in different environments. And I think that there is so 392 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: much fear of this stigma that is deeply racialized and 393 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: very much used as a tool to control other human beings, 394 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: and I was just like we I don't I don't 395 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: want to be a part of it, so like, I 396 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: don't know, and it's no. It has been a very 397 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: profound journey of self to share that practice with other 398 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: people and to share what it looks like for me 399 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: to be um smoking weed at my house before and 400 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: after yoga, before and after bed like wherever, whenever. To 401 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: really share that has been very especially to share it 402 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: with an audience that is not does not hold the 403 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: same values, that's not always on the same values. Um. 404 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: It is something that it's in an incredible practice for 405 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: me to really be true to myself and to really 406 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: be authentic, and to see what it means for my 407 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: authentic self to be offensive to other people, and to 408 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: see what that looks like, to know that the logic 409 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: that people have two dislike what I'm doing really at 410 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day has nothing to do with me, 411 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: And this is me validating it instead of pointing out 412 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: the fact that it is all based on lies and 413 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with the truth. But like, 414 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: let's pretend for a moment that's not the case. It 415 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with me someone else's opinion, and 416 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: just being able to actually show what the practice looks like. 417 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: That to me feels like the whole reason to even 418 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: be on social media. It's like, is the point of 419 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: social media for people to like me? Know, the point 420 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: of social media is to be honest and to be 421 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: real and that it that is that as a motivator 422 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: and as a piece of my personal practices has been 423 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: very revealing in a way that I'm grateful for. And 424 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: it's wow, how does that peace um look in practice 425 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: and in process? You know, because it's really interesting. You know, 426 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: one of the things I think when when people are 427 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: on the road of healing, a piece of understanding our 428 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: emotional regulation is like existing and other people not having 429 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: to honor your truth or you know the quote that 430 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: we see sometimes on social media, like I'm in therapy 431 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: because all the people in my life that are not 432 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: in therapy or try you know, it's like you have 433 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: to put that in practice when you are just on 434 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: your your personal internal journey. But for someone as a 435 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: light worker and a soul lad leader um with a 436 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: large platform, it's not just the people in your life, 437 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: it's the perceived against us. It is the projections, it 438 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: is the experiencing of other people who are being awakened 439 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: and are fighting that awakening within themselves as they experience. UM, 440 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: you and and other light workers that are projected upon 441 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: in that kind of communal space. That's a lot. That's 442 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: a lot. That's millions of people, right, It's not just 443 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: your family of origin or your coworkers, it's millions of people. Um. 444 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: How how does one clear themselves of that, release themselves 445 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: of that, um, come into a space of divine acceptance 446 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: with that? At that level? I think that's exactly what 447 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, is that I think it is 448 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: all just acceptance. I think it's all being like it's like, okay, 449 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: so I too, uh one of Nancy Reagan's kids, one 450 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: of the Dare kids, Like I wish I'd say, if 451 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: I'd know how dope it would be now to have 452 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: that black with the rainbow Dare logo shirts. Still I 453 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: would get that from from fifth grade. But I was 454 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: definitely I was like PCP marijuana, same thing, not doing either. 455 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: Like I was just like, yeah, this sounds great. So 456 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: I have to accept that there is a narc that 457 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: lives inside of me, you know what I mean? Like 458 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: I have to I have to own that that she's there, 459 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: and she comes to she comes, she comes to dinner. 460 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: She's always got her pants pulled up really tight, and 461 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 1: she's ready to tell on everybody and she wants to 462 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: be that. She wants to know the most. She is 463 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: the smartest bitch in the room. She always knows everything. 464 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: And I got to own her and she's that's who 465 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: I am. And I say, you know, we love her too. 466 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: You know her pants are up very high, Yes they are. 467 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: She doesn't know it all. That's it just true and 468 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: it's okay. And then it when in the acceptance of it, 469 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: because again it's like you don't have to like it, 470 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: like I don't have to like I don't have to 471 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: like her to be her, and accepting that who you 472 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: know whoa oh my God, to like her to be 473 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: her because she is that that's a part of me. 474 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I gotta own her, just like I 475 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: own all the other parts. And that that's that's so 476 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: much of what any of this like, showing anybody that 477 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: part of my life is literally like just trying to 478 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: own her and really be like, you know what I'm 479 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: not it's yes, yes, I see her, I see And 480 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: so that it makes me. That's that has been the 481 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: the fonts of compassion for anyone else who says, like, 482 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, you are promoting this drug that is dangerous 483 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: and that stuff, And I'm like you on what I 484 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: feel you because I feel the same way. But at 485 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: the same time, there is another part of me that 486 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: knows that is not the case. And I own her too, 487 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: and we go all have dinner together and that's just 488 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: what it is. But you, I mean, you said something 489 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: that is going to be for another day to unpack. 490 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: But the wow you said, I don't have to like 491 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: her to be her. I don't have to like her 492 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: to be her. I have to sit with that um 493 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: that can be applied to so damn much when we 494 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: think of coming into acceptance with ourselves right like, because 495 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: then it's like, once you take that layer off, it's 496 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: you create the spaciousness to invite in liking her and 497 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: seeing her through a new lens. But to be willing 498 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: to be oneself the first step, and it's like you 499 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: can't even You have to just be willing to say, 500 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: she's there, it's sorry, she's there. Jessamine, it has been 501 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: um a complete honor to spend this time with you, 502 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: and I know my audience is familiar. But whoever has 503 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: not gotten it yet, yoke my yoga of self acceptance. 504 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: It is in stores right now. Um. Jessamine is the 505 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: founder of the Underbelly of Dear Jessamine of We Go High, 506 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: and you can find her on Instagram. I highly recommend 507 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: connecting with every single faceting fiber of her life's work. 508 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: It has been such a joy to be with you. 509 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You honor me. I am humbled. 510 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful to be in community. Thank you. Literally 511 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: anytime any place I'm there, hit me up big, thank you, 512 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to check in net week. A 513 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: little soul work for everybody, So a little way to 514 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: ground this beautiful conversation. If you have the time today 515 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: or in the days that follow, I would recommend finding 516 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: a moment to really be alone with your body and 517 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: so that can be clothed, that can be unclothed, um, 518 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: but in a private space in a way that feels 519 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: really nourishing for you. Do some slow stretching and as 520 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: you do it, really feel your body. Do it without expectations, 521 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: don't rush. Find a time where you can really kind 522 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: of ease into this practice. Maybe spend fifteen to thirty 523 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: minutes doing it. Maybe turn onto the music or light 524 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: a candle, but just really explore the way your body feels. 525 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: So if you want to lift your arms and stretch, 526 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: if you want to bend, if you want to move, 527 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: car about some dedicated time to do just that. Give 528 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: yourself a massage, put on lotion or oil with intention, 529 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: Allow yourself to do some deep breathing as you're doing 530 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: these stretches, big inhales, deep full exhales, and really give 531 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: yourself the gift of your own attention and time. I 532 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: hope you get a chance to do that. 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