1 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to save our protection of iHeartRadio. I'm 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Annie Reeves. 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: And I'm mourn bah blah bum And today we have 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: an episode for you about Mounds and Almond Joy the candies. 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, fascinating episode. Yeah. 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, you know, glancing around looking for a 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: Halloween candy that we hadn't done, and this story struck me. 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, yes because as we record this as it's 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: coming out, it is Halloween. This is one of my candies. 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: I have candies, Almondjoy specifically now Mounds. Okay, oh, all right, 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: candies I try to get. I love an Almond Joy. 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I find they're very They're like usually people will give 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: them to me like people have strong opinions about them. 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: They do, they do, and I love them. I've said 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: before one of the few topics of like my favorite 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: foods we have not done is coconut, because that one 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: is going to be a big one, really big. Yeah, 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: but I love coconut. And so as long as I 19 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: can remember, I have loved. 20 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: Have we done all five of your must have Halloween 21 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: candies so far? 22 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: Can you remember? 23 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Do you know? 24 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, because it's Reese's kit Kats, M and M's 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: butter finger and I'm enjoy. 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: How have we talked about butterfingers? Yeah, I think so, Okay, 27 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna believe you. I'm gonna believe you. 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: Well oh no, I think so. 29 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: Well, there's no way of finding out now. 30 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: No, but if this is the last one, I feel 31 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: like a piece is puzzle was complete. You know what 32 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean? 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: We have we have not I checked, we have we 34 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: have not done an episode on butter fingers. 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: So blast, Yeah, I will say almon Joy and better 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: fingers are the hardest to come by. 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. They were a lot more common when we were 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: growing up. And certainly almon Joy is considered pretty old fashioned. 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: So Noll stinks. No, It's funny because I had a 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: friend text me the other day out of the blue 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: and she said her mic and ikes old fashioned, and 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: I said yes, and she said, how dare you? That's great. 43 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: I love that she asked you specifically and then got 44 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: mad at your answer. 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: That's true. 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: I'm nothing it's bad for that reason. I'm just saying no, 47 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: that's how they feel. 48 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So I would love to hear from younger 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: listeners if you're like all joy, Oh. 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: I love it. 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: I love them too. 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: I also am a fan oft I'm a fan of chocolate. 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of candy. I yeah, almonds are great. 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm eating a health food because it 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: has an almond in it, you know. 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, And in doing this research, I forgot it's been 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: a minute, and they do come in different sizes, but 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: I forgot that for a while they came. We've got 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: too in the same package, you know, too small. 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's the standard. I feel like 61 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: that's still the standard. 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: Is I think it is? But no, I think it is. 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: But I in the past few years have gotten the 64 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: many ones. It's just totally Yeah. Yes, we have done 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: not coconut, but we've done coconut adjacent episodes, and we've 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: done chocolates. We also have not done almond. 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: Nope, nope, we haven't all coconuts. Two really big ones 68 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: that I'm even in this uh, even in this year 69 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: in which we are tackling many topics, I had been 70 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: avoiding those two. Or I'm just like, you know, maybe 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: maybe not the week, not gonna do that to myself. 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: That's a lot. That sounds like a lot. 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: It is, indeed, it is, indeed, But we have done 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: other nut based topics. Huh, and all the other candies 75 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: barring Butterfinger. But yeah, plenty of episodes to check out. Sure, yes, 76 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: but I guess this brings us to our question. M 77 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Mounds and Almond Joy what are they? Well? 78 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: Mounds and Almond Joy are two similar candy bar brands, 79 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: both produced these days by Hershey's. They each consist mainly 80 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: of chunky, shredded coconut in a kind of sweet and 81 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: creamy vanilla sugar base, formed in two bars of various 82 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: sizes and coated in chocolate. Mounds is that coconut stuff 83 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: coated in dark chocolate, and Almond Joy is that coconut 84 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: stuff with a toasted whole almond placed on top, one 85 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: for every like inch or so of candy, and then 86 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: that whole thing is coated in milk chocolate. The chocolate 87 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: coatings are fairly soft and thin, like you get more 88 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: like of a chew and melt from them than like 89 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: a snap and crumble kind of situation, and the coconut 90 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: filling is thick and chewy and like very sweet. The 91 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: chocolate and coconut are both rich, but you get that 92 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: like nice, slightly bittersweet roasty notes from the chocolate, contrasting 93 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: with the like nutty, creamy vanilla coconut and in the 94 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: case of Almond Joy, an additional crunch and sweet toasty 95 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: flavors from the almonds. 96 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: They are. 97 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: They are considered a bit old fashioned, but like they're 98 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: soft and comforting, like the densest pillows, like a like 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: a weighted pillow, and you sort of feel like you 100 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: should probably brush your teeth after eating one, even if 101 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: you've only had a snack sized one. You're like, well, 102 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: this is good for my dentist. I'm I'm gonna fix 103 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: this now. 104 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: They are really soft. I hadn't considered that before. But 105 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: you're right about the chocolate. It's a very it's just 106 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: an easy bite to experience. 107 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like a crunch until you get to 108 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: the almond, right. Yeah, it's just soft, just nice. 109 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: I already got my Almond Joy for this. 110 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh you did, Okay, good good. 111 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: I haven't eaten it yet, I got it. Oh I 112 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: have not. 113 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: I have not had an Almond Joy yet this season. 114 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: But I also don't have anything like I don't have 115 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: a superstition about different candy bars. 116 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the world ending, the world ending if you don't 117 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: five Yeah, Wow, it's a responsibility. I almost there. Yeah, no, 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: I understand, I understand. 119 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: It's like Cabin in the woods. 120 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: But with candy. 121 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Almond Joy and mounds. They have come in 122 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: various shape for from bite sized two king sized, plus 123 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: things like egg shapes for Easter. Though right when you 124 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: get a full bar size, it's actually two or more 125 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: smaller pieces in a single wrapper. And I'm assuming that 126 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 2: that is to maintain the structural integrity of the candy, 127 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: because right, because they are so soft, I guess it 128 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: would just kind of go whoomp if it was a 129 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: big long bar. There have been a few experiments with 130 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: additional flavors being added to the basic product over the years. 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: I think mostly in the early two thousands. There was 132 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: like a Pina Colada flavor with white chocolate and pineapple 133 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: in it, a key Lime pie with white chocolate milk 134 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: chocolate with passion fruit, things like that. But for the 135 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: most part, it's kind of just the standard. There's also 136 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: been some co branded products, including an Almond Joy iced 137 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: coffee from Dunkin Donuts and an Almond Joy Coffee Creamer 138 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: coffee creamer episode from International Delights. Also like Almond Joy 139 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: in quotation marks. Is definitely a flavor concept that's out 140 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: there in the world now, even when people do not 141 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: license the actual name, you know, like coconut almond chocolate 142 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: is just a flavor that is in our zeitgeist. You can, yeah, 143 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: just eat the candy bars, but people do also chop 144 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: them up into other desserts like cookies or ice cream, 145 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: or use like little chunks of them as like a 146 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: topping for things like frosted cupcakes. 147 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: Maybe. Wow, Yeah, we love our treats. 148 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: We do. 149 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: We're speaking of what about the nutritiit Yeah. 150 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, treats are nice, treats are great. Candy is a treat. Yeah, 151 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm speaking to myself in this sternly, Lauren, Candy is 152 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: a treat. It's not dinner. It's not dinner. 153 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: You can't do that. 154 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: Just because you can, just because you're an adult and 155 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: no one will stop you, doesn't mean that you should. 156 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: H all right, I guess, so, don't take care of 157 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: vice from us. 158 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: No, No, can't tell you what to do. 159 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: No we can't. No, we can't try. No, we would never. 160 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: We do have some numbers for you. We do. 161 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: As of twenty eleven, Almond Joy was generating some sixty 162 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: point eight million dollars in revenue every year, making them 163 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: the tenth most popular candy bar in the United States. Mounds, meanwhile, 164 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: this isn't a number. This is like a cultural note. 165 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: Mounds is a candy that people really enjoy dissing. There 166 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: is all kinds of Mounds hate out there. Furthermore, almond 167 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: Joy doesn't get it as bad, but when it gets it, 168 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: it really gets it. Like for some reason, the TV 169 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: show The Boys over the past four seasons, past four 170 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: years has like dissed it so hard that it used 171 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: it as a plot device. 172 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh jeez. I was trying to think of, like, well, 173 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: we'll talk about this more in the history section. Actually, 174 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: but I prefer dark chocolate to milk chocolate same. I 175 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: don't know if that usually. I don't know if that 176 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: would have been true as a kid, But now Mounds, Yeah, 177 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: I was like, no thanks, But almond Joy absolutely And 178 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: I think as I do like that crunch. Maybe because 179 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: the chocolate is softer, I don't know, but it does 180 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: crack me up that there are this divide between me. 181 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, very similar, harries, very similar. I people have strong opinions. 182 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: We love a strong opinion. 183 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: Here we do. 184 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: Despite all of this, I will say that as of 185 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, Almond Joy was the most popular Halloween candy 186 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: in Connecticut by online sales on candystore dot com. 187 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: And there might be a historical reason for that. 188 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: There might, indeed, and we are going to get into 189 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: that history as soon as we get back from a 190 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: quick break for a word from our sponsors. 191 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you. Okay. 192 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: So we're going to unpack a lot from this statement. 193 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: Huh. 194 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: But mounds were first invented in Connecticut in nineteen twenty 195 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: by candy seller Peter Halligeann. Haligeann was born in Armenia 196 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty four, and he immigrated to the US 197 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: in eighteen ninety with aspirations of starting his own company. 198 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're pretty sure we're saying that his name correctly. 199 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: We couldn't find a direct pronunciation, so that is our 200 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: best guess based on our internet resources. 201 00:11:59,520 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: Okay. 202 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I've also seen his birthdate listed as eighteen seventy five. 203 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: At any rate, this was a time the eighteen nineties 204 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: that a lot of Armenians were fleeing the Ottoman Empire 205 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: amidst growing civil and political unrest that was turning the 206 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: climate significantly against the largely Christian Armenian population, there by 207 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: the largely Muslim Ottoman authorities. So Peter and his family 208 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 2: got out before the genocide. Yay, didn't know I was 209 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: going to have to deliver that note in the middle 210 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: of our mountain. I'm enjoy episode, but here we are. 211 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: A lot of Armenian immigrants were settling in New England 212 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: at the time, and Peter's family joined the community of Naugatuck, Connecticut, 213 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: where a lot of rubber was manufactured. Then Peter got 214 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: a job at one of those plants. But yes, he 215 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: wanted to start his own business. 216 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: Right, So after selling homemade candy and fruit door to 217 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: door and to commuters, he opened his own treat shop 218 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: along with his daughters on Water Street in Naugatuck in 219 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,239 Speaker 1: eighteen ninety five. The stores ran ads with creative slogans. 220 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: With the help of his brother in law and a 221 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: few other Armenian immigrants, they eventually opened other locations and 222 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: a manufacturing plant. Pretty good, but he was worried that 223 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: his last name would hinder the success of an American company, 224 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: so halla Jian legally changed his name to Peter Paul. 225 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: In nineteen nineteen, Paul founded the Peter Paul Candy Manufacturing Company, 226 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: where he often employed Armenians. The company produced other candies. 227 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: It had a couple of candies like a chocolate candy 228 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: bar with coconut, fruit and nuts that was called a 229 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: ConA bar. Mounds followed after that, dark chocolate wrapped around 230 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: a shredded coconut mix. Customers were big fans of the 231 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: candy bar, and it soon became their most popular offering. 232 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: It was strat as well, this candy bar, because there 233 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: was a lot of candy competition in the United States, 234 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: and at the time, Mountains was relatively unique. 235 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was also combining like classic beloved chocolate with 236 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 2: posh coconut. Coconut had been out of reach like aspirational 237 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: for most American consumers throughout the eighteen hundreds, but a 238 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: few technological and business happenings at the end of the 239 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: century made especially dried shredded coconut fairly readily available. But 240 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: it still hadn't like lost its sheen. It's it's cool factor. 241 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: And it seems that by the way, Peter was sourcing 242 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: his from the Philippines, which had just been annexed by 243 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: the United States in eighteen ninety eight. By nineteen twenty two, 244 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: just three years after they formed, after they opened this 245 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: manufacturing plant and formed this candy company, the company was 246 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: doing so well that it needed to expand the plant. 247 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: There was a little bit of a curve fuffle overfunding. 248 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: Apparently the first bank that they went to thought that 249 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: there was too much competition in candy making and that 250 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: they couldn't possibly do well enough to excuse the loan. 251 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: But jokes on them. The company wound up paying it 252 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: back in two years. Wow Yeah Wow. 253 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Paul died in nineteen twenty seven, passing ownership to his 254 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: brother in law, Cal Kazanjian. Under his leadership, the company 255 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: doubled down on their most popular products. By the end 256 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: of the twenties, the company no longer produced many of 257 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: the other candies that they used to, freeing up more 258 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: time and resources for the somewhat tricky to make mounds. 259 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: To speed up the process, which until then had been 260 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: done by hand, the company automated it. Yeah. 261 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: There was a machine for scooping the coconut meat out 262 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: of the shell. There was one for coating the coconut 263 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: bars and chocolate there were refrigerated conveyor belts to preserve freshness, 264 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: and a wrapper machine that they convert from wrapping soap 265 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: bars to wrapping candy bars. Well, all of these measures 266 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: were successful, and by the thirties the company was the 267 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: largest coconut consumer in the world. Wow Yeah. They even 268 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: soared through the depression by like leaning into quality and quantity. 269 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: In order to keep sales up, they started selling twin 270 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: bars for the same price, depending on like savings from 271 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: making bulk purchases to make up the difference, and it 272 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: paid off. In nineteen thirty four, they expanded the plant 273 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: again and introduced a new chocolate bar with diced almonds 274 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: in with the coconut filling, called the Dreams Bar, and 275 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: throughout the decade they raised wages for workers and kept 276 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: shareholders happy. They also made really good use of radio advertising. 277 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: World War Two put a crimp in the business, though, 278 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: when Japan invaded the Philippines in nineteen forty two, they 279 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: lost their entire supply of coconuts, so in order to 280 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: resume production, they started sourcing coconuts from the Caribbean, although 281 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: to do that they had to sneak their supply boats 282 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: past the German Navy who were patrolling the Atlantic Ocean. 283 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: So they employed several small wooden schooners that they nicknamed 284 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: the Flea Fleet to bustle coconuts from the Caribbean to 285 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: processing plants in Florida and Puerto Rico. And apparently the 286 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: boat well okay, so the boats were too small for 287 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: the Germans to warrant paying any attention to and apparently 288 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: the crews sometimes passed on information about the Germans whereabouts 289 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: to the American military. A little bit of espionage in 290 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: there too. With the wartime shortages and things like sugar, though, 291 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 2: they shrank their production lines down to just mounds, caramels, 292 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: and chewing gum. 293 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: Wow. Another why haven't you done this right? Well? According 294 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: to the Hershey website, the US Army was responsible for 295 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: eighty percent of mounds purchases during World War Two. These 296 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: mounds were sent to soldiers overseas who were very fond 297 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: of the candy. Yeah. 298 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: At their peak they were sending five million bars a month. 299 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Wow, uh okay, So Almondjoy. Almondjoy came out in nineteen 300 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: forty six largely because of the success of Mounds without 301 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: mounds No Almondjoy yeah or I also sell nineteen forty eight, 302 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: somewhere in there after the war. After the war, it 303 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: was first developed to replace Dreams Bars and Yeah. Almondjoy 304 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: was very similar to Mounds other than the chocolate malek 305 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: instead of dark and the addition of a whole chocolate 306 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: covered almond. The two layers of chocolate kept the almond attack. 307 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: At the time, that was the idea was yeah Yes. 308 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: The similarities between Mounds and Almondjoy drew many comparisons, and 309 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: the company sometimes leaned into the perceived competition in ads. 310 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: So you have the red packaging of Mounds the blue 311 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: packaging of Almondjoy, and it really made for some vivid 312 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: depictions of this rivalry. Yeah. 313 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: And Peter Paul was the first candy company to produce 314 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: full color television ads at the time. 315 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: Right, And according to people who work in advertising, it 316 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: was actually pretty clever because essentially they were advertising two 317 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: candies at the same time. Yeah Yeah, which brings us 318 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: to something I had forgotten was unlocked in my brain. 319 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: Probably one of the most well known instances of this 320 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy Leo Cordet and Leon carp jingle sometimes 321 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: you feel like a nut, Sometimes you don't almon Joy's 322 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: got nuts Mounds, Don't sometimes you feel like a nut? 323 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Commercial was produced in nineteen seventy six and it first 324 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: aired in nineteen seventy seven. These ads often featured someone 325 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: displaying some kind of nutty behavior, like riding a horse backward. 326 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: So silly, yeah, but it was catchy, like people remember it. 327 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: The jingle entered the Advertising Slogan Hall of Fame in 328 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, and more recent marketing has involved 329 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: a like tropical beach vibe with the jingle and sort 330 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: of an instrumental callipso thing. Okay, But in twenty twenty one, 331 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: the company ran an ad that featured the words, and 332 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: it was very popular. I don't know how much of 333 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: it was nostalgic, but definitely a lot of it was nostalgic. 334 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: People like I remember this. 335 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: I have to tell y'all that, like I get this 336 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: jingle stuck in my head about once a month. Really, 337 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: it just pops in there. It just it just haunts me. 338 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: It's just it's just there. It's just one of those 339 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: things that that and the pizza bagels, Oh, just just 340 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: jingles that live in my head. 341 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you feel like a nut. 342 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: And sometimes you don't you know, you get it, My 343 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: cats don't get it as much. 344 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. But I do think it's 345 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: very clever because it's it's quick, it's to the point, 346 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: it's advertising two candies at the same time from the 347 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah there you go. Yes, all right, So it did work. 348 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: It did work. The companies access caught the attention of others, 349 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: and in nineteen seventy eight, Peter Paul was purchased by 350 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: Cadbury Schwepps. Yes, that one. Though the manufacturing remained in Connecticut, 351 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: instances of the location were removed from packaging. So previously 352 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: it had said like it's made here in New England, 353 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: but they were sort of slowly removing that from the packaging. 354 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: And then in nineteen eighty eight Hershey purchased Cadbury Schweps 355 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: and got Mounds in Almondjoy as part of the deal. Yeah. Yeah, 356 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: so this is something that really interested me. If you 357 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: have been to the UK, there is a very similar 358 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: candy that we can't get here in the US. And 359 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was just sort of a europe has 360 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: their own candy things that we were not allowed to access. 361 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: But yes, the success of Mounds and Almonjoy also kept 362 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: the British chocolate coconut candy bar Bounty off us shelves. 363 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: And I have to tell you, every time I've been 364 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: to Europe, I love this candy bar. I seek it out. 365 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: It is similar to Almond Joy minus the almond, so 366 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: it's milk chocolate. It's like a milk chocolate Mounds. It 367 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have the almond. But there is a dark chocolate 368 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: version available. Okay, all right, yes, Mars attempted. Mars the 369 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: company attempted to break into the American market a few 370 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: times of Bounty, but eventually gave up in the face 371 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: of the dominance of Mounds and Almond Joys. 372 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: We're like, well, never mind, so we can't have Bounty. 373 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: Manufacturing of these candies moved from the original Connecticut location 374 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: to Virginia in two thousand and seven. This year, manufacturing 375 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: is moving to Illinois, if it hasn't already. But yeah, 376 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: these candy episodes are always interesting, That's true. They are. 377 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: I and I love how, I love how A lot 378 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: of these candies that are I mean considered a little 379 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: bit old fashioned but still feel like, I mean like 380 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: I would still gladly buy and eat one, right now 381 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: we're created like over one hundred years ago. That's that's wacky, right. 382 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: It is really wacky. It's because when you think about 383 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: not to be that person at a party that you're like, 384 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: please stop talking to me. But when you think about 385 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: like the history of coconut being posh in the United 386 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: States and the people who like why this candy bar 387 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: was popular when it was, it is interesting. It does 388 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: kind of feel like you're biting into history. I'm sorry, no, 389 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: it does. It does. 390 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: Oh heck, so okay. So I was tabling last weekend 391 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: at the Little Five Points Halloween Festival, and we had 392 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: a bowl of candy on the table and by the 393 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: end of the weekend, the chocolate was gone. We were 394 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: down to dumb dumb pups and Smarties, and some people, 395 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: like people's reaction to that was terrific because some people 396 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: would like look at the bowl and be like, I'm good, thanks. 397 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: Some of them would like painstakingly find the flavor of 398 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: lollipop that they wanted, and some people were like, oh 399 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: my heck, they're Smarties, yes, yes, Smarties. Yeah, and that's terrific, 400 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: Like yeah, and that's another candy that is so old 401 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: and like so based in this very specific type of 402 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: manufacturing process that was new and shiny ones and has 403 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: just stuck with us chocolate ever since. 404 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I loved it, Like what a nice moment. 405 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: I really do enjoy. We love strong opinions in general, 406 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: but I love like candy opinions. And a very good 407 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: friend of mine he's throwing a Halleen party this weekend 408 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: and she made everybody She found out everybody's favorite candies 409 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: and made them these like little cauldrons of their favorite 410 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: candy goodness, and she sent me a picture of it. 411 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: And I just feel like I'm looking at the story 412 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: of someone's life almost like wow, you like it's like 413 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: so different and so specific, and some of them I'm like, 414 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: I would never but it like brings me joy because 415 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: I know it brings them joy and there's some reason. 416 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: That they like it. Yeah, huh, so I do. I 417 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: really enjoy. 418 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: I love hearing people's candies candy opinions. Yeah. 419 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: It was great because I mean the booth that I 420 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: was at was also giving out like like harm prevention 421 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: supplies and like pregnancy tests and so so I was like, listen, 422 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: do you need some FETANL test strips or smarties. 423 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: I woe. You see, when you're a kid, you go 424 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: you go to the doctor, they give you candy, and 425 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: you're like, yes, this is the best. We need to 426 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: continue that for adults. Oh absolutely, yeah. 427 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: I did by the end of the first day move 428 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: the bowl of condoms away from the bowl of candy 429 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: because kids would go for both and their parents were like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, 430 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: those are those Those are for grown ups. 431 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: Friends. Yeah, but you know, the idea is. 432 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: It's not their fault they have like cartoons on them 433 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Anyway, Yes, yes, indeed, Well, listeners, 434 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: if you have candy opinions, oh please let us know, 435 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: please do, please do. 436 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I think I think this might be our last 437 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: full episode of Allween. Maybe if it's not, well, then 438 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. But if it is happy Halloween. 439 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: Maybe Halloween, yes, and anything else that you're celebrating, anything 440 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: else you're celebrating. 441 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, we would love to hear your candy opinions. 442 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: But I think that's what we have to say about 443 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: Almond Joy and Mountains for now. It is it is. 444 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: We do already have some listener mail for you, though, 445 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: and we are going to get into that as soon 446 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: as we get back from one more quick break for 447 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: a word from our sponsors. 448 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: Now we're back, Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and 449 00:28:41,240 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: we're back with very very spooky, oh terrifying, terrifying. Auric wrote, So, 450 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo mozzarella is a wonderful cheese, especially when you can 451 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: get the real dop one. Mixed ones are okay, but 452 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: the real thing is just so wonderful. Try putting some 453 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: on top of a burger, just off the grill and 454 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: drizzle a balsamic reduction on it to really take a 455 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: burger to an unexpected place. As mentioned, it can really 456 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: add some different depth and flavors to any number of things. 457 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Loved the revisit of Thirteen Days of Halloween. That was 458 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: a great episode and shows the writing talent. That was 459 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: a great series and I was hoping it would happen 460 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: again this year, but it'll last. Everyone did great jobs 461 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: on that, and Lauren, I absolutely loved your phone operator. 462 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: You completely and fully nailed the character. I think it 463 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: was the perfect vibe between evil and helpful to keep 464 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: you on the edge as to what it would be. 465 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: Since you both enjoy horror, you might enjoy this podcast. 466 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: House of ghouls, talk about all different kinds of horror movies, 467 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: especially the indies, and do a lot of fun interviews 468 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: with people. I also love that they do everything possible 469 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: to avoid spoilers and really appreciate they won't crap on 470 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: a movie. They may not like it, and they will 471 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: say they don't like something not for them, but they 472 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: won't tear apart someone's work is trash. They understand that 473 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: everyone likes different things. Oh yeah, see I appreciate that. Yeah, 474 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: that's why. 475 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: Again, like we appreciate strong opinions. But you know, like 476 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: we're never gonna say that food is that a food 477 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: is trash? 478 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's it's done good fun because I 479 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: have strong opinions. You have strong opinions, Yeah, we all do. 480 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: So it's nice that it's coming from a place of like, 481 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: you know what, that's not for me, here's why maybe yeah, 482 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: but but hey, I get maybe it's for you. That's 483 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: all right. 484 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for all the kind words about Thirteen 485 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: Days of Halloween. 486 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Yes, Lauren did do an excellent job, and I was 487 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: reminded of the fact that we did an episode of 488 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know forever ago where 489 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: you were also playing creepy voice Demon lady. 490 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was that was a drive through demon. 491 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: Totally separate thing, totally superent thing, character wise, very different, 492 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: very different, but yeah, very fun. They're fun for us 493 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: to do, as we said. And oh yeah, we like horror, 494 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: so my categories. If you just heard him out, he's 495 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: asking to be let out. I'm going to let him out. Okay, 496 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: and we're back. What were we talking about? Scary things? 497 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: We like? Horror cat could be very scary for sure. 498 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh they can be. They can be. They're certainly demanding 499 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: and make loud noises sometimes from other rooms that you 500 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: absolutely have to go check out. 501 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: It does sound like a horror movie, Lauren. Yeah, yep. 502 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: Usually they've just destroyed something in my experience. 503 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: That can have big horror attached to it. But oh yeah, 504 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: that's all right, okay, yeah. 505 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, I don't think I've ever had especially 506 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: like real buffalo mozzarella on a burger And now I 507 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: really need to do that. 508 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I haven't been able to find any I know, 509 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: I've found places I can get it, but I'm going 510 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: to have to put in some effort that I haven't 511 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: had time for yet. But I did find some Barrada. 512 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: Oh heck, I love Barda. I do love Barada as well, 513 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: so I I'm looking for different ways to use it. 514 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, this is good. Now I'm just thinking about cheese. Okay, 515 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: all right, Bo wrote, I've been a fan since the 516 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: first episode of food Stuff. I've always wanted to email 517 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: the show, but have never had anything to contribute or 518 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: a fun story that fit any of the themes of 519 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: the episodes until now. I've just finished listening to the 520 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: savor Ween Red Velvet episode. Fun fact, eggs and blood 521 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: show similar protein compositions, especially with the albumin that gives 522 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: them their coagulation properties. Due to this, you can use 523 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: sixty five grams of blood to substitute one egg, or 524 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: forty three grams of blood to substitute an egg. White 525 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: fun right, I thought so. Sometime last year, I decided 526 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: to try and bake a cake and test that theory. 527 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: I went to the local butcher shop to inquire about 528 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: some blood. Without question, he slammed a two liter bottle 529 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: of frozen cow blood on the counter and said that'll 530 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: be three bucks. Since I don't bake often and didn't 531 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: want to make anything inedible, I wanted to ease myself 532 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: in it. I didn't substitute all the eggs and the 533 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: recipe but most and went with a chocolate and beetroot cake. 534 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: I thought the earthy beetroot flavor and color would enhance 535 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: the blood properties and the chocolate would mask it a little. 536 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: If it didn't work out success, maybe it kind of 537 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: just looked like a dense chocolate cake, but maybe a 538 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: little darker. The taste was fine. I guess I'm not 539 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: a big cake guy, so I needed a second opinion. Unfortunately, 540 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: I couldn't get anyone else to try a piece. 541 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: Oh my, this is a fun fact. Yeah, fun fact 542 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: and this weird show. Wow, that is amazing. Thank you, 543 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: it really is, it really is. I thank you for 544 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: doing this research. I love this interaction with your butcher. Yes, 545 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: but also we have an episode it's on. If we 546 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: haven't done straight episodes on them, we've done related episodes 547 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: on like blood putting our blood, sausage. 548 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, stuff like that. But I think I'm still 549 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: saying wrong. I'm sorry, but yeah, yeah, you know, I hadn't. 550 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of it as like a one to 551 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: one substitute for egg but right, Yeah, sure. 552 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: Because it would be a good binder. Sure right now, absolutely, which, yeah, 553 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Maybe maybe we did a hagus episode. 554 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I talked about it a little in there. I 555 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: don't know. 556 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: Anyway, I feel like I've talked about that. 557 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: I feel like we have talked about it, and I 558 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: know I mentioned it in some episode. I did not 559 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: mention it in this rerun rerun, savorween red velvet. That 560 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: idea of like the blood, sweat and tears in a cake. 561 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: I loved the movie Matilda. Oh yeah, and it has 562 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: that scene yeah, cheers, and it just looks like a 563 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: regular cake. So I think there's a lot. There's a 564 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: lot going on here. But I appreciate you doing reporting 565 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,479 Speaker 1: to us about this research that you've done. 566 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: Yes, oh heck, I'm so sad that no one else 567 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: would try it, Like, come on, guys, it's just a 568 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 2: little blood. 569 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: It's just a little blood. 570 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: I mean, if you as long as you were upfront 571 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: about it, yeah right right, Like as long as you 572 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: eat beef. I don't see why you wouldn't be down 573 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: with eating cow blood. 574 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: Cake, cowblood cake? Yes, all right? Oh yeah, I like this. 575 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: Especially for the low low price of three dollars. 576 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: For that's a lot. That's a lot of blood. 577 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: Uh, that's quite a bit of blood. Oh wow. 578 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for being with us since the beginning 579 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: and writing in about this. Thanks to both of these 580 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: listeners for writing in. If you would like to write 581 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: to us, you can. Our email is hello at savorpod 582 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: dot com. 583 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: We're also on social media. 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