WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Tim Legler (06-04-20) 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.160 Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our one. On 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.600 this Thursday, Dan and The Dana stan Patrick Show. Saw 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.280 an interview with Drew Brees yesterday that was floating around 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:17.760 and I didn't know was from yesterday because the comments 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.720 had to do with kneeling, had to do with the flag, 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.759 had to do with Colin Kaepernick directly indirectly, and I 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.640 thought maybe this was from a few years back, and 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.200 I wasn't sure why it was trending, and then I 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:34.760 realized this was Drew Brees from an interview yesterday on Yahoo. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:41.199 Yahoo Finance interviewed him and Drew talked about hatriotism, standing 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.360 for the flag, and I'll play the full context of 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.680 the question and the answer there and then because I 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.880 want to give both sides to this. He has since 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.840 come out with an apology that I just got about 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.800 ten minutes ago. I'll read that for you. We'll talk 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:02.360 to we'll hear from Malcolm Jenkins, a teammate of Drew Brees, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.880 is in what he had to say yesterday, the timing 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.399 of this, the insensitivity of the timing of this with 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.759 Drew Brees, because I can let Drew Brees have his opinion. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.360 I may not agree with his opinion, but it's his opinion, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.360 and that's the beauty of what we have here in 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.119 the United States. You can have an opinion. He may 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.960 not agree with Colin Kaepernick's opinion, or Malcolm Jenkins' opinion, 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.559 or Michael Thomas's opinion, but you at least have to 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.640 have an understanding of why they feel the way they do. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.520 And I would say the same to Michael Thomas and 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.959 Malcolm Jenkins. They have to understand why Drew feels the 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.160 way he does. But this is a time of less 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:48.120 talk and more listening, and I think Drew understands that now. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.240 You know, if this is three weeks ago and we're 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.160 talking about this, maybe it's different, maybe it's received differently. 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.280 But this has been Drew Brees' stance on the anthem, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.040 and he's said this down through the years in previous 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.400 interviews that we've had. I may not agree, and I 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.200 have said I didn't think what Colin Kaepernick was doing 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:14.000 was it was not the flag that he was disrespecting. 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.560 And the reason why I say that is I go 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:22.400 back to what a former Green Beret, Nate Boyer played 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.480 with the Seahawks. He said to Colin Kaepernick, remember when 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:30.079 he sat. He was sitting and no one noticed. There 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.320 was a reporter who eventually saw that Colin Kaepernick was 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.560 sitting during the anthem, and Nate Boyer, green Beret, says 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:43.280 to Colin Kaepernick, it would be more respectful to the 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.880 nation's military if he would kneel. This is a Green 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.680 Beret saying this. I never thought it was about the 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.560 flag as much as it was at this moment. I 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.239 can have eyes on me and I want to let 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.560 people know about social injustice. And he went about it quietly. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.400 He didn't even tell his teammates he was going to 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.160 do it. I thought we had moved on from it. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.160 We can agree to disagree about Colin Kaepernick. Look, we 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.800 all wrap ourselves, you know, in the cloak of patriotism. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.080 We want to respect the flag, but you have to 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.360 understand their segments. There are people, there are groups, there 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.040 are races that look at it differently than we do. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.280 I have a military background with my father in the Marines, 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.519 and my uncles won in the Army and one in 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.920 the Navy. We all have that. But when people when 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:40.360 these when the military came home not everybody was treated 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.000 the same. Let's put it that way. You know, the 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:48.320 GI Bill didn't apply to everybody. African Americans didn't get 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.120 those same benefits the GI Bill. They thought that for 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.720 their country, they didn't get the same benefits. And I 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.800 understand that. And as much as I understand the military 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:05.280 and the sacrifices, I didn't know that African Americans were 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:09.680 treated differently when they came back. And that's what we 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.320 have to understand. All it is is, let me just 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.760 listen to why you feel this way, why it is 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:23.279 so painful, why somebody gave up their NFL career. Colin 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.480 Kaepernick gave up his career, was willing to give up 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:31.560 his career. I have to be respectful to that opinion. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.039 I don't like that he did it. I understand that 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.159 he did it because I knew once he did it 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:42.080 what it was going to mean, and maybe I was 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:46.720 nervous about how uncomfortable it was going to make America, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:53.560 not just football world America, and we saw what happened. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:58.960 I think it was misinterpreted, totally misread People grabbed it 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.520 and used it for their own social causes. Kaepernick, I 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.560 do think with what he was saying or not saying, 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.760 and what he was doing was to open our eyes 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:15.760 with what we just saw in Minneapolis. I truly believe that, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:20.680 truly and my heart believe that we all want to 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.040 respect the flag, we all want to respect the anthem, 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.039 but we're not all treated the same under that flag, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.359 under that anthem. And that's why we are where we 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:38.160 are right now. And Drew Brees, who has been a 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.240 pillar of integrity for the city of New Orleans, for 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:45.159 the state of Louisiana sportsman in the year back in 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:50.520 twenty ten, what he was saying is the same answer 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.359 that he had given to me a couple of years 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:57.080 prior and a couple of years prior to that. But 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.839 I think understanding your teammates when you are a leader 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:06.479 is listening to them. You may not agree, but you listen. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.960 And it felt like Drew Brees was not listening to 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:15.480 his teammates and understanding why they're so hurt, why they 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.600 were so angry at him. Michael Thomas, his starwide receiver, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:29.400 angry at Drew Brees, Malcolm Jenkins angry at him, and 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.680 Drew Brees now I think understands, which why did it 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.920 take this long to understand why your teammates would be hurt, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.440 but I want to play this in context. This is 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.920 the question that's asked and the full answer with Drew Brees, 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.440 and then I will read you his apology. This is 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:54.040 from Yahoo Finance yesterday. Everyone is looking back now at 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.760 Kaepernick's protests for a few years ago, and obviously they 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.480 were always about police brutality, and now it's coming back 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.480 to the full and a lot of people expect that 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.640 we will see players kneeling again even when the NFL 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.760 season starts. I'm curious how you think the NFL will 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.920 and should respond to that. And of course you're such 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.120 a leader in the league. What is your responsibility as 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.600 a leader in times like this for the rest of 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:20.080 your teammates and players in the league. Well, I will 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:24.360 never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.600 States of America or our country. Let me just tell 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.440 you what I see or what I feel when the 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.640 national anthem is played, and when I look at the 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:38.120 flag of the United States, I envision my two grandfathers 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.240 who fought for this country during World War Two, one 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.080 in the Army and one in the Marine Corps, both 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:48.240 risking their lives to protect our country and to try 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.240 to make our country and this world a better place. 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.760 So every time I stand with my hand over my 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.680 heart looking at that flag and singing the national anthem, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.080 that's what I think about. And in many cases, it 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.760 brings me to tears thinking about all that has been sacrificed, 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.360 not just those in the military, but for that matter, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.920 those throughout the civil rights movements of the sixties and 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.040 everyone and all that has been endured by so many 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.840 people up until this point. And is everything right with 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.960 our country right now? No, it's not. We still have 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.120 a long way to go. But I think what you 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.560 do by standing there and showing respect to the flag 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.200 with your hand over your heart, is it shows unity. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.480 It shows that we are all in this together, we 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.960 can all do better, and that we are all part 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:39.200 of the solution. Okay, I understand all of those things 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.000 he's saying, and I can understand where he's coming from. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:50.240 But in today's world, as volatile as it is, you 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.320 have to understand what is going on and what is 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:58.640 being said, and what is being demonstrated and protested. And 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:03.240 that's where drew his tone deaf. You know, if you 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.640 frame it in a way and say, what happened in 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.000 Minneapolis can't happen again. And I understand the pain and 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.760 the anger, or at least I'm trying to understand the 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:16.559 pain and the anger. You have to at least put 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:22.199 it in perspective of today. Yes, your great grandfather's mind 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:27.040 fought too. I want to respect the flag. I want 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:31.760 to respect those who respect the flag. But I'll go 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:37.439 to my grave in saying Colin Kaepernick was just trying 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:45.560 to get eyes on this issue systemic racism. That's what 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:51.640 he wanted. He wanted dialogue. He did it peacefully, and 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:57.160 it wasn't good enough. He was shunned. And now we 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:01.680 have the hypocrisy to say, as a former, you know, 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.600 employee of the NFL, hey, why don't we give him 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:12.440 a job with the vikings. It's just hypocritical. He just 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:16.880 asked to have you listen, let's make change. He sacrificed 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:21.360 his career. And remember at the time, all those reasons 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:26.360 why nobody wanted to sign Colin kaepernin memory. People came 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.360 up with all these excuses and none of those were true. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:36.000 They actually they actually had somebody say his diet, Oh 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.319 he's you know, he's on a new diet. Can he 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.920 withstand you know, the rigors of play in the NFL 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.760 and going on his diet. Oh, his mechanics are Wait, 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.320 this is the same guy that towards the packers and 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:52.320 you're gonna tell me this. But we kept making excuses, 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.960 and that's the problem. We've continued to make excuses, and 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.120 that's why this is where we are right now. We 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:11.320 make excuses, we look the other way. Here's Malcolm Jenkins, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:17.000 Saints defensive back, talking about Drew Brees. Our communities are 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:23.280 under siege and we need help. And what you're telling 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.320 us is don't ask for help that way, ask for 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.920 a different way. I can't listen to it. When you 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:33.760 ask that way. We're done asking, Drew, and people who 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:39.880 share your sentiments, who express those and push them throughout 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:44.760 the world. The airways are the problem. And it's unfortunate 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.880 because I considered you a friend. I looked up to you. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.680 Here's somebody who I had a great deal of respect for. 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:55.480 But sometimes you should shut the up. That's Malcolm Jenkins. 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.520 Drew Brees was on the show May of twenty eighteen 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.720 and he talked about stands on the national anthem. You 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.880 know I've I've I think I've made myself very clear 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.200 in where I stand in all of this. I think 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:13.679 that the national anthem to way to unify everyone. I 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.160 think by some people kneeling and some people standing and 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.960 all that, I think that that's very divisive for our country. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.640 And I think that the flag and the national anthem 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.880 deserves our respect for all those who have come before us, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.439 who have fought so hard, who have died and sacrificed 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.000 in order for us to have the freedoms that we 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.400 have in this country. So I believe that no matter 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:42.320 what you're protesting, because there's plenty of things about this 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.720 country that I think we would all like to see improvements. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.040 I just don't think that the national during the national 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.280 anthem is a time to voice those opinions. I think 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.960 that it deserves our full respect by standing at attention, 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.280 looking at the flag, hand up over your hard, singing 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:06.080 the national anthem, and paying that respect. That's Drew Brees 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:13.000 May of twenty eighteen. That's his opinion. I respect your opinion. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.480 I may differ from it, and in this case I do. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.960 I don't agree with that, but you can have your opinion. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:25.200 It doesn't mean I hate Drew Brees don't respect Drew Brees. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.720 I just see it differently than Drew Brees does. That's 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.079 the luxuries that were afforded here in the United States. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.680 But you just have to listen to why other people 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:42.240 would be so passionate about it. And that's what I 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:47.000 didn't understand when Drew. If you understand what Kaepernick is risking, 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.960 and you start with his life because there were death 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:55.760 threats with Colin Kaepernick, let alone, he killed his career, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.960 I have to understand why that mean so much to you. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.920 And it's easy to go, hey, he's anti American, he's 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:11.040 anti flag. He's not. He wants to be pro American. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.400 He wants to be pro flag. He wants that flag 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.960 to mean the same to him as it does to 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:20.800 Drew Brees. Drew Brees issued an apology this morning. I 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.640 got it about twenty five minutes ago. I would like 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.280 to apologize to my friends, teammates, the city of New Orleans, 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.360 the black community, NFL community, and anyone I hurt with 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.880 my comments yesterday. In speaking with some of you, it 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.440 breaks my heart to know the pain I have caused 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:43.040 in an attempt to talk about respect, unity and solidarity 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:47.000 centered around the American flag in the national anthem. I 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.800 made comments that were insensitive and completely missed the mark 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.320 on the issues we are facing right now as a country. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:59.400 They lacked awareness and any type of compassion or empathy. Instead, 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.640 those words have become divisive and hurtful and have misled 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:08.840 people into believing that somehow I am an enemy. This 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.280 could not be further from the truth. It is not 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.720 an accurate reflection of my heart or my character. This 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:19.080 is where I stand. Drew Brees goes on to say, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.440 I stand with the black community in the fight against 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:28.479 systemic racial injustice and police brutality, and support the creation 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.920 of real policy change that will make a difference. I 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.600 condemn the years of oppression that have taken place throughout 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.920 our black communities and still exist today. I acknowledge that 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.640 we as Americans, including myself, have not done enough to 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:48.840 fight for that equality or to truly understand the struggles 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:53.080 and plight of the black community. I recognize that I 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.640 am part of the solution and can be a leader 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.360 for the Black community in this movement. I will never 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.800 know what it's like to be a black man or 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.600 raise black children in America, but I will work every 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.720 day to put myself in those shoes and fight for 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.720 what is right. I have always, in capital letters, been 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.360 an ally, never an enemy. I am sick about the 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.680 way my comments were perceived yesterday, but I take full 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:23.080 responsibility and accountability. I recognize that I should do less 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.440 talking and more listening, and when the black community is 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:30.040 talking about their pain, we all need to listen. For that. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:35.880 I am very sorry and I ask your forgiveness. So 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:40.280 that's Drew Brees and his apology, the question and his 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.600 full answer yesterday that led to this. We'll have a 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.400 little bit more on this, but I wanted to give 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.240 you both sides of this. My opinion has always been 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.920 out there. My opinion hasn't changed. I probably have a 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:57.640 deeper understanding as we move along away from Colin Kaepernick, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:06.639 but it's there. Colin Kaepernick is. He's back in mainstream America, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.920 and I hope it's a good thing because I hope 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:13.040 it brings change. We don't like to be uncomfortable, but 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.360 we're uncomfortable now and I think that's a good thing. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.919 Take a break back after this. Thanks for listening to 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.320 The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.880 live every weekday morning nine to noon. Eastern or six 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.840 to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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If there is something 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.720 to move this forward, I've given you my opinion on it. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.160 Phone calls are welcome eight seven seven three DP show 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.600 email address DP of Downpatrick dot com, Twitter, hand to 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.639 a TP show. There are other topics to bring to 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:04.320 your engine. We'll talk to Tim Legler from ESPN. He'll 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.040 join us coming up here. I want to talk to 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:10.080 him about bringing the NBA back and why it is 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.240 going to take two months to do so. Todd and 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.280 Wisconsin joins us. Hi, Todd, what do you have for 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:22.000 me today? Six one two twenty Yes, I just basically 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.840 I think Breeze, you know, is he was baited with 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:30.359 the question. I understand his points, but really what needs 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.480 to happen, you know, really the last four years, where 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:38.320 has the NFL and its players been unified in this 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:44.760 where someone's either locking arms kneeling. So my my thing 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.600 that they maybe should do is not on the national anthem, 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.760 but like on the sideline, raise your hand. All the 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.200 players on the sideline that wants to do it, raise 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.560 their hand for the whole game, and that's going to 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.879 be more dramatic in one little anthem, and then you 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.320 move on to the game. Well, you're seeing players demonstrating 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.879 the whole game and doing it in a year after 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:15.840 year after year. That will bring the point across. I know, Todd, 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.800 I don't want to make light of this, but holding 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.399 my hands in the air for an entire game on 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:27.520 the sidelines does not make this more dramatic. Seems unreasonable, physically, 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:35.400 seems problematic. There it accomplished what I think Colin Kaepernick 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.000 wanted it to accomplish, and that was there was discussion, 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.960 There were eyes on this. Then there was the question 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.760 of will other teams do this? Do you lock arms, 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.679 do you take a knee? But the fact that a 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.639 former Green Beret is the one who said to Colin Kaepernick, 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.680 don't sit on the bench, then you'll show disrespect to 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:56.400 the flag if you kneel, you will not That's from 0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:00.280 a Green Beret. Now, everybody has their opinion on it. 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.280 Nobody's going to change their opinion. You can hate Colin Kaepernick, 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.040 you can think he's an American. That is your opinion. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:11.800 We will agree to disagree, and I think that's where 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:17.159 we are. Colin Kaepernick, to me, what he said is 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.760 now playing out right in front of us, and you 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:23.359 see the outrage and the anger. That's what he was 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:28.520 asking you. Let's try to avoid this because this is 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.159 the reason why he came forward is there was a 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.520 twenty six year old African American who was shot over 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:40.159 twenty times by police, and he decided that he wanted 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.959 he had to do something about this, and he came forward. 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:50.400 He sat, nobody noticed except for one reporter, and then 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.000 he decided that he was going to take a knee, 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:58.120 and he lost his job. And you can't bring him 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:05.280 back now. Although somebody suggested that, hey, bringing back to Minnesota, 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:10.520 that'll fix everything, it won't. I remember mak Mood Abdul 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.080 rah Wulf did not stand for the anthem and the fallout. 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:17.879 I think he I think he was told to go 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:21.320 back into the locker room. I think somebody there was arson. 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:25.280 I think somebody burnt down his home in Colorado. He 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.520 paid a price for that. He just didn't believe in 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:32.240 the anthem and what it stood for. It's bringing Tim 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:36.600 Legler covers the NBA for the Mothership. Not an easy 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.560 segue here, legs, But I do appreciate you. Were you 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:44.240 in the NBA when mak mood was doing his silent 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:51.320 protest when he was actually still Chris Jackson in Denver 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.359 when he was a rookie, and then I remember that 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.359 playing out. I believe I still was in the league, 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:58.359 and I think some of the context around that was 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.159 like the Gulf War, and it took on a different 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:04.440 meaning in a context that was Americans at war with 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.440 a foreign country. And I think that's why what he did, 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.160 I think, you know, got even more severe backlash at 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.560 that time, but it's no doubt that it definitely costs him. 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.040 But when you take a stance like that that meaningful 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:19.080 to you, when it involves anything to do with the 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:23.320 country and a national viewpoint, you run the risk of you, 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:25.680 how are people going to interpret this? And I think 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.159 that's what this Colin Kaepernick situation has been from the beginning. 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:33.000 It's different people's interpretation of what that means. What was 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:37.960 your reaction to Drew Brees and then the fallout? Yeah, Well, 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.119 I think as far as Drew Pies is concerned, I 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.399 think he was expressing his own point of view. But 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.840 I think what we have learned over time, all of 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.240 us have learned is the way that you may interpret 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:53.159 it a particular act might not be what the original 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.760 intent was, and there are times you have to listen 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:59.520 to the other side on what the intent of that 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.080 act it is and really take that to heart and 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.960 make that meaningful. Now, you might still disagree with it, 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.200 but when you come out and make a public statement 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.480 in any way, that's a negative reflection of it, and 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.880 basically in doing so, you are saying I really don't 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.440 understand the interpretation that you've given me on what that means, 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.960 You're going to get a significant reaction, and that's exactly 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:25.879 what happened in the case of Drew Brees. Do I 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.040 think he needs to be taken to the point where 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.320 you're now called Drew Brees or racist or things like that. 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.080 I think that just takes it too far when you 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:33.679 look at the way he's lived his life into what 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.000 all by all accounts, the things he's done in that community, 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.560 and just the kind of person that he generally is 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:41.360 regarded as. I don't know that we need to make 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.320 that leap, but I do think you need to understand 0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.080 there are going to be repercussions if you are going 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.439 to voice an opinion that differs from what the attent 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.080 of a particular action is. Yeah, I don't, you know, 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.720 we it's either black and white from the standpoint of 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.879 your answers. I either agree with you or I don't. 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.840 I'm either happy for what you said or I'm angry 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.200 at what you said. I think Drew Brees is a 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:08.400 wonderful person by all accounts, what he's done after Katrina, 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:13.160 the money that he donates, the importance of his presence 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.480 in that city. I just don't agree with his stance 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.119 on the anthem. That's it. If he was on the show, 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.800 I'd still embrace him for who he is and what 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.600 he is, but we would disagree, agree to disagree, and 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.800 I mean that's the beauty. We have that luxury here 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.080 agreeing to disagree. I just don't believe that somebody is 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.600