WEBVTT - Rabbit, Rabbit with Mario Cantone... (S1 E9 "The Turtle and the Hare")

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Charlotte? We are here at Are You a

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte with the fantastic guests Mario kntone and we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to rewatch episode one oh nine. It's called The

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<v Speaker 1>Turtle and the Hair and it is directed by Michael Fields.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the second episode directed by mister Fields, who

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately I have.

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<v Speaker 2>No memory of. I'm very sorry, mister Fields. And it

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<v Speaker 2>is written by Nicole Averrel and Sue Klensky.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I did stand up comedy. We know both of

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<v Speaker 3>them who I think I've met.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we worked together many times with while Michael was

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<v Speaker 4>at the club at.

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<v Speaker 3>The Okay, so there's a connection.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the season when our writers weren't really with

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<v Speaker 2>us necessarily. They were they had written in La. Darren

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<v Speaker 2>had had a writer's room in La and scripts would

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<v Speaker 2>come and we wouldn't necessarily meet them, unlike every other year.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and Jenny.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point we.

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<v Speaker 2>Rewatched last episode one eight with Jenny. That was her

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<v Speaker 2>first Jenny Biggs, that was her first episode. And she

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<v Speaker 2>reminded me that she had been a consultant, she'd been

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<v Speaker 2>brought on, she'd been uh, that was her episode to right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she was a consultant, so it was her,

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<v Speaker 2>Darren and Michael in a room, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>amazing to think about it. And I hadn't really remembered

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<v Speaker 2>that she had been around the first season, which is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a.

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<v Speaker 3>Jenny after Sex and the City put me on two

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<v Speaker 3>seasons of men in trees.

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<v Speaker 5>No way, come on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeh.

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<v Speaker 3>She was great.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the best. Okay, So this is a very interesting episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Saw all the episodes in the first season, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, all of us are in it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we have we start at this crazy wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't it look like it was the eighties? Yeah? Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean because it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't the eighties, but I mean the colors in the

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<v Speaker 2>room and the and also we had no money. Like

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<v Speaker 2>at one point, Samantha goes to a restaurants just supposedly

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<v Speaker 2>the talk of the town, and I'm like, what what.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that restaurant?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at the bar, and yeah, it's like the saddest

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<v Speaker 2>talk of the town restaurant I've ever seen. But we

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<v Speaker 2>had no money in the beginning compared to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>later and now especially but you know, luckily now we

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<v Speaker 2>have people asking us to film at the super cool

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant because we're still recovering, you know, the restaurant business.

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<v Speaker 3>But back in the day not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>No one knew who we were or what we were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we begin at this wedding where a character named

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<v Speaker 2>Brooke not played by myself.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit confusing because I have previously.

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<v Speaker 2>Played a character named Brook for Darren, but Noah is

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<v Speaker 2>not me. She's getting married, but Carrie thinks that she's

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<v Speaker 2>getting married to someone who she doesn't really love, and

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<v Speaker 2>this begins the thematic conversation of is everyone in New

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<v Speaker 2>York settling in their relationships? Which is a really good

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<v Speaker 2>conversation to have and a very very important, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think conversation to say.

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<v Speaker 2>In my mind, obviously I'm single, but in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>you should never settle, like I do not think that

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<v Speaker 2>you should settle. You know, people are not yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love There's this one moment. I'm just gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you about it now. I sometimes go out of order.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this one moment where Carrie goes out with the

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<v Speaker 2>bride after the wedding to return some wedding gifts, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's still trying to figure out like, is she happy?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she not happy?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she pleased with her decision or not?

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<v Speaker 2>If she doesn't really love the guy, which doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>like she's passionately in love. And she says something like

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<v Speaker 2>what does it feel like to be married? And the

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<v Speaker 2>broke character says, it feels like.

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<v Speaker 3>A weight has been lifted? And I felt that.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt that, And isn't that crazy that I would

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<v Speaker 2>still feel that today in twenty twenty five, And I

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<v Speaker 2>know that things have changed about this, but like, we

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<v Speaker 2>are so socialized that you have to be paired up in.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever way that is.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be married, it might not be married, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, it is a social situation where people want

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<v Speaker 2>an explanation if you are not paired.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh sure, and it is stressful.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it is right, especially for I think, well

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<v Speaker 4>back in my day, especially for straight people.

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<v Speaker 3>He were gay, they were like whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But then gay marriage became acceptable. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel that pressure now you've been married for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, do you feel like that pressure?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I never felt that pressure because I just I'm a coupler.

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<v Speaker 4>It definitely was always a coupler. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 4>with somebody, right, Yeah, But when I met Jerry, it

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<v Speaker 4>was you know, nineteen ninety I met him and I

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<v Speaker 4>was with someone else at the time, and then we

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<v Speaker 4>were friends for a year and half and then I

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<v Speaker 4>went when I broke up with my ex site we

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<v Speaker 4>started to get together like six months later. It just

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<v Speaker 4>accelerated into that. But it's yeah, I mean I didn't settle.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on, Oh he's awesome. He didn't settle at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, okay, so wait, this is okay. So first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, let me talk about how we look at

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<v Speaker 2>the wedding, because what's going on with all of our hairs.

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<v Speaker 4>My hair, it's so you but in that corner with

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<v Speaker 4>all the weekends insane, it is ads right, it is as.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen that. What were we thinking? And you

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<v Speaker 3>looked all kind of like like there was a slight like.

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<v Speaker 2>Punk thing, and we talk about like that were and

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<v Speaker 2>then they when they cut towards at the kids table o,

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<v Speaker 2>My god, I almost fell out.

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<v Speaker 3>Because this still happens to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's rough to go to a wedding at

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<v Speaker 2>this point because I'm like, if I have to sit

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<v Speaker 2>with those children. Oh, I don't know what I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I don't know what I'm to do. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really don't want to do that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes people do get married, and I do feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I should go, So we'll see. But when coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she's not. I mean, if I'm sitting with

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<v Speaker 2>my own kids, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, sure. Don't you hate when they mix you

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<v Speaker 3>up to the separate you. Why are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>That's not right. No, that's not right. People.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get to a situation, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they can be.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, we're at this woman Brooks wedding and we're

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<v Speaker 2>we're at.

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<v Speaker 3>The reject table. She's so harsh.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got kids, and then we've got this man, Bernie

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<v Speaker 2>Turtle Tob who's kind of hysterical. She's known for good

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<v Speaker 2>investments but bad breath. And I'm really happy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, Samantha has this whole storyline with him

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<v Speaker 2>that I found kind of perplexing. I don't remember this

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<v Speaker 2>at all, right, but I was like, since when does

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha try to like fix anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Up and right and settle right.

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<v Speaker 2>Luckily, she comes to she kind of definitely different than

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<v Speaker 2>we see later, Like like I also thought like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha also is getting kind of worked out, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't ever remember that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't ever remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the nice thing about when she takes this guy out,

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<v Speaker 2>she dresses him differently and whatnot, and she tells him

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<v Speaker 2>that he has bad breath, and he says very sweetly

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<v Speaker 2>that he's taking these Chinese herbs, which I totally relate

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<v Speaker 2>to because I have many times in life been taking

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese IRBs and I probably had Chinese irb breath. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but he very sweetly says that, and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we can work on that. And it's kind of sweet

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<v Speaker 2>of her, you know what I mean, Like she's very

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mother to him.

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<v Speaker 3>And she actually wants to better him, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she gives up.

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<v Speaker 3>He's talking about those mushrooms for too long.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's analyzing the mushrooms in his dish and there's

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<v Speaker 2>like six possible mushrooms it is, and she's like, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>no one cares, she says really sweetly, also really sweetly,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, maybe it's chantrelle or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she's like I'm out, which is really true.

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<v Speaker 2>That really man, But that was a very departure type

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<v Speaker 2>of a Samantha s I felt, right, Also similar to

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<v Speaker 2>when I mean not similar, but kind of similar. Earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the episode, she comes to my I take her

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<v Speaker 2>home because she's drunk and she lives with my door man. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>also I mean very Samantha. But also it's funny to

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<v Speaker 2>see her drunken, like not together, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and Charlotte's trying to take care of her, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of cute.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this is the Rabbit storyline, when we actually

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<v Speaker 2>went to the pleasure Chest and filmed.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's right, we're at the pleasure chest.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's funny about this episode. I was rewatching

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<v Speaker 4>it and I had just seen it. Incidentally, I had

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<v Speaker 4>just seen this episode on HBO, maybe like a month ago,

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<v Speaker 4>You're kidding, And I was like, I was watching, Wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I just saw the wow, wow because I remember that

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<v Speaker 4>you being directed to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Yeah, I'm addicted to the Rabbit. Departure for Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 2>a very departure for a.

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<v Speaker 3>Very different thing for Charlotte. Charlotte is and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I saw. I saw the place I thought when I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>It, I just remember, this was my no.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, my hair is.

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<v Speaker 2>A mess, sturdy mean, and I'm wearing green silk.

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<v Speaker 3>What the heck?

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<v Speaker 6>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>And you see like a lot of my apartment, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not how my apartment was later, and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a big wall of books, which I think is super awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>And where do those books go?

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<v Speaker 2>Because now in Charlotte's apartment they're all white, They're wrapped

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<v Speaker 2>in white paper.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, it's just a design.

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<v Speaker 3>So Charlotte, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, so Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, back then they were all their real bindings, which

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<v Speaker 3>is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte was interesting, but also.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of mysterious. You're like, where's the real who was

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<v Speaker 3>the real show? Where is she going? Is going to

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<v Speaker 3>turn into?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and we of course know, but back then

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think she knew right because at first she's like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>vibrator is not going to take you out for your birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>A vibrator is not going to say I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, gives them a little speech at the very

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<v Speaker 2>sad coffee shop. You're at the real coffee shop in

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<v Speaker 2>Long Island City, that kind of scary coffee shop, sad

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<v Speaker 2>and scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember no, yeah, yeah, I remember? You remember

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<v Speaker 3>her set?

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<v Speaker 2>The coffee shop is not a set, it's a real

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<v Speaker 2>in Long Island City, which like in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the warehouses they used to be there.

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<v Speaker 4>She was saying that, you know, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>say I love you, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>she's she's canceling on.

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<v Speaker 2>That I and she's a bad liar, which is so

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<v Speaker 2>worse so me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a terrible liar, terrible liar.

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<v Speaker 2>They come and bang on my door and then they

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed the vibrator, which I thought was brave.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like they were and I do vaguely remember

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<v Speaker 2>some conversation, and I also I vividly remember being at

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<v Speaker 2>the pleasure Chest because I'd never been to the pleasure Chest.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I can't believe we're filming here.

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<v Speaker 2>And we had to hold the thing up in our

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<v Speaker 2>face right like like you know on film, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>never hold anything down here because they have to cut

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<v Speaker 2>to an INSTI you have to hold it up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like right in our face.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what all of us it's got the years.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's a crazy situation. It's a crazy situation. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the rabbit was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Turtle in the hair.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, I know, so I like that departure.

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<v Speaker 2>But can I tell you what else pops up in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind?

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<v Speaker 3>This is what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I free flow my memory and then I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>look at my papers. Sara Jessica and I are doing

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<v Speaker 2>that yoga scene and we're in the top floor of

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<v Speaker 2>Silver Cup, which was empty at the time. So like

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to look at those windows, you would

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<v Speaker 2>see Manhattan in the distance, which we also filmed in

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<v Speaker 2>last season Evan, just like that, and I believe we actually, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was somewhere where we were supposed to be in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what thing it was, but we were

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be in Brooklyn so we could use the skylight.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember also what I did, the scene I did

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<v Speaker 4>with with with Sarah Jessica.

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<v Speaker 3>When she was going to buy that apartment. Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>They built it. They built it up with the skylight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the one with those with too much se totally, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they built it up there.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that's the same floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Jessica and I had been a yoga teacher before before

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<v Speaker 2>I got Maler's place and We're up there and it's

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<v Speaker 2>very cold. They have the air conditioning on too much,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you guys, it's too cold.

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<v Speaker 3>You have the sets are often they're having to do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of work. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But we had to do yoga, and I remember saying like,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to we need to warm up, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to warm up, we need to warm up. But Sarah

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<v Speaker 2>had been a dancer, right, so she's super limber. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty limber, you know, and we're just doing our stretches.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Jessica pulled a muscle in the back of her

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<v Speaker 2>leg that I still feel bad about because we had

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<v Speaker 2>had you had a wretch, But you're acting, right, You're

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<v Speaker 2>acting and you're not thinking. And I know she's very limber,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember just like doing the thing like we

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<v Speaker 2>were supposed to do, and I just feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>pulled her too far or something and it hurt her

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<v Speaker 2>to sit on it on a hard chair for years.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, like we'd be in a theater scene, you

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<v Speaker 2>know how we had all those scenes like the fashion

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<v Speaker 2>show that she was sitting with us. But we'd be

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<v Speaker 2>sitting somewhere.

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<v Speaker 5>And she'd be like, oh, and I just feel terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrible bad. She I don't think she blames me, but

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<v Speaker 2>I still feel bad. I still feel bad. But I

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<v Speaker 2>love that scene. It's a really fun scene. And we

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<v Speaker 2>look like little children obviously, which is really funny. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>back at the wedding. We're at the wedding. I mean, man,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, I don't even know what to make of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when you look at people. You know, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>talk about women right now for a second. Let's leave

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<v Speaker 2>gay men out of it. For gay women, let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about with straight women. Yeah, do you feel like there's

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<v Speaker 2>pressure to settle and get married and have the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the big wedding?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, still I still do. I do. Thick

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<v Speaker 3>times have changed, but I do. Also there's I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if there's social pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess there is some social pressure pressure, but there's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of inner pressure that women put on themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we've been socialized.

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<v Speaker 3>They think that this wouldn't be supposed to be, that

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to make you happy.

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<v Speaker 2>When if you had a friend that you felt was

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<v Speaker 2>settling to get that marriage, you know, would you say something.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I would you know, after they were divorced, I'd

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<v Speaker 4>be like, I never liked them, but you know beforehand,

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<v Speaker 4>I can No, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Too delicate, it's difficult, and I really have.

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<v Speaker 4>To make sure even if they don't get married, you

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<v Speaker 4>have to make sure they are broken up and they

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<v Speaker 4>are never getting back together again.

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<v Speaker 2>Say anything, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't want to create problem. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want them to be mad at you, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's rough though. I don't ever say anything

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<v Speaker 2>about anything because I don't I don't really know what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on in that relation.

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<v Speaker 3>Whip don't right, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Look and the rule to one's relationship is none of

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<v Speaker 4>anybody's business, and there are different rules to different people's relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a very very good point. We cut back

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<v Speaker 2>to Carrie and she's typing in her adorable way. I

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<v Speaker 2>just love it so much. Then she calls big And

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<v Speaker 2>and she asks him why did he get married? And

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say this, I've been on a very

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<v Speaker 2>big journey with big rewatching the first season because I

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<v Speaker 2>just can't believe how he is to her, Like he's just.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, not giving you know at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, until this episode, I felt like he broke down

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a little warmer.

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<v Speaker 2>To her, do you know what I mean, finally, finally, finally,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think also she's going through this whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, I'm dating someone who never wants to

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<v Speaker 2>get married again, should I do? And she actually has

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<v Speaker 2>to contemplate all these things and then he has to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like reach out to her rather than her

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<v Speaker 2>always reaching out to him. None of these things ever

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<v Speaker 2>occurred to me when we were filming this. Well, you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it totally differently, totally I think because of the times,

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<v Speaker 2>but also think when you're in it, you're just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. You know, you're just trying to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And Charlotte was so big, so I was.

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<v Speaker 4>During that scene when they called this a split screen, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>very Brian to Palma's.

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<v Speaker 2>Terror love split screen.

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<v Speaker 3>We loved it and they talk that what did you

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<v Speaker 3>think of that? You think it was weird? I what?

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<v Speaker 3>I immediately went, it's a split screen.

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<v Speaker 2>He loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked it. I did. I did like I like

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<v Speaker 3>look watching it. Like I said to you, I like

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<v Speaker 3>the tone of it too all I like to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to so much. Sure does. It's twenty two minutes like bam,

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<v Speaker 3>bam bam, and you're like, oh, I want more. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a short twenty two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very short, I know, and they get so much

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<v Speaker 2>in there. I know, the writing is so good, so

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<v Speaker 2>so good, so so good. Okay, So Carry calls Big

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<v Speaker 2>and she basically says, you know, why did he get married?

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<v Speaker 3>And then he says he was.

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<v Speaker 2>A fool in love, which are just like, what, really,

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<v Speaker 2>at what age were you a fool in love? Because

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<v Speaker 2>this is not who we know him to be. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he says he's never going to get married again.

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<v Speaker 2>And then would you see her gulp exactly, which is

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<v Speaker 2>also I think kind of surprising in a way because

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<v Speaker 2>she's quite the you know, the girl about town.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's when you know that you really has deep feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Deep feelings, I know, sweet Carrie. Then so last week

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<v Speaker 2>we found out that he had been married. Now we're

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<v Speaker 2>casually finding out. But I do feel like this is

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<v Speaker 2>how relationships are in the beginning, right, Like people just

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<v Speaker 2>say stuff like kind of like of course, but in reality,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're over on the other side, like what it's

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<v Speaker 2>a clue. That's a bad clue, you know, like you're nitpicking,

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<v Speaker 2>a'll not not even nippicking, but you're you're just like

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<v Speaker 2>accruing details, right, trying to make the picture together. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so then the rest of us are not surprised to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that Big doesn't want to get married. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a major bummer, which is so funny

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<v Speaker 2>because it's something that I would say, now, oh silliness.

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<v Speaker 2>You wonder if they were paying attention to how I talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But then of course deman that Cared

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<v Speaker 2>not surprised at all. And then she says, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even thinking about getting married until I was told I couldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>and which I think is so true, right, Like you're

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<v Speaker 2>just on your own tracks, and you're assuming that other

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<v Speaker 2>people are possibly on that track too, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>hear that they're not in this shock right because you're

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of going about things assuming that their possibilities.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. That's not always the case, is right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do feel like that's a lesson that CARRY

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<v Speaker 2>learns basically every week with Big.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know and go. It fluctuates too, with her

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<v Speaker 4>relationship with him. I just went back and forth through

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<v Speaker 4>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and like, God, how then you didn't you cently?

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<v Speaker 2>I only rooted for them and now I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did I do that? That's do you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean? But that's how it is too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like sometimes when you're too close, you're not objective,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And I also think that

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<v Speaker 2>they have the chemistry they have and therefore you for

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<v Speaker 2>them right, exactly right, which is also eventually it just

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<v Speaker 2>took a very very long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, very very long time. Took a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It took a movie, and then another kind of I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, but then we didn't. Yeah, anyway, back

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<v Speaker 2>to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I say really adorably that I want my

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<v Speaker 2>relationship to be based on honesty and communication, which I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Still say, and I'm not wrong, no, like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what relationship should be based on. Wants that.

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<v Speaker 2>Characters my character definitely, and I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like the mature voice, which is amazing. You like

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<v Speaker 3>the voice of reason. I'm the voice of reason.

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<v Speaker 2>And see I never realized that in the beginning. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was always so naive. Well, I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a way to look at it that I am.

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<v Speaker 3>You are right, but it's but it's different.

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<v Speaker 4>It's you're it's it's you're a little bit more conservative,

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<v Speaker 4>then that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm conservative, right, but there's conservatives also saying conservative in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of like wants to get married, have kids. Is

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<v Speaker 2>very open about that. That's the goal, you know from

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<v Speaker 2>the get go, pretty much right, And obviously we know

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<v Speaker 2>we know that she comes up against some some difficulties

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<v Speaker 2>because of that, which is fine because I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So then as my producers write, this is the sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a major storyline, a big not wanting to get married,

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<v Speaker 2>which honestly I hadn't remembered this either.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I like no, I mean, well I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we were in it, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I remembered that, then what happens later

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<v Speaker 2>would have made more sense, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also feel and I talked.

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<v Speaker 2>I had Oliver Hudson two episodes again, so sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's done a lot of work on himself, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's also been married a long time and it was

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<v Speaker 2>super interesting to talk to him about being a straight

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<v Speaker 2>guy and what he remembers before he did and also

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<v Speaker 2>married right, successfully married before and how you know, scared

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<v Speaker 2>he was of expressing his feelings and communicating openly, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he learned how important it was and how you

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<v Speaker 2>do feel so much more. You're much more available to

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<v Speaker 2>love and all the things that can happen when you're

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<v Speaker 2>fully present and not you know, with the wall, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you look at Big, the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>has this incredible wall up for so long, and somehow

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<v Speaker 2>she handles it, she does handle it. I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know how.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>You talk about rooting for someone and hoping they're going

0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 4>to change what she actually did later on, but I.

0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Know she waited along, right, But in reality, like now,

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.879
<v Speaker 2>we would say, like, don't try to change that person.

0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 3>He's not going to change. Yes, we don't change people.

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, Isn't that what I would not always say now?

0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.560
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting, it's interesting, but I also feel like I

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.480
<v Speaker 2>feel and I could be wrong, and maybe we'll ask

0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Sir Jeska about this where she comes up, I feel like, yes,

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:15.359
<v Speaker 2>she wanted what she wanted, but at a certain point,

0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.320
<v Speaker 2>she was also willing to not get everything she wanted

0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 2>to stay with him, do you.

0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Know what I mean? Yeah, Because it's not like this.

0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:28.280
<v Speaker 2>In this episode, there's a crazy storyline with Stanford where

0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 2>she goes to meet his mother, which I had not

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.160
<v Speaker 2>really remembered, right, it's so good.

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Also when they go to the ballet, which you know, sir,

0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Jessica loves your ballet so much, and now she's chairperson

0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.920
<v Speaker 2>of the Ballet Committee and does this incredible fundraiser every

0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 2>year and raises so much money in New York City

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Ballet and we on and just like that film at

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:50.440
<v Speaker 2>the Ballet this year, which was incredible and we spent

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 2>so much money doing it. Yep, but we wanted to

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:56.320
<v Speaker 2>have that iconicy New York situation. But to see she

0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and Willie walking around Lincoln Center in the night and

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 2>she wirrel, it's incredible. It's incredible, And way back then,

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.680
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety eight we did that, Like, it's amazing

0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the kind of footprint of what would come in a

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:15.159
<v Speaker 2>much more kind of fully fully developed way later.

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 4>And in the settling, In the settling situation, even though

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 4>they are close friends and they love each other, there's

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:21.359
<v Speaker 4>the idea of them getting married.

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, He's like, why not because he would get his inherited.

0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.119
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't realize, right, And he would be fine with

0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.439
<v Speaker 2>her being with Big because he's gay, right, And it

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of makes sense and she's like, maybe this does

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 2>make sense.

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:36.920
<v Speaker 3>And then his mom, his mom mother, you guys me

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 3>wi WILLI Stanford's mom and she says, you know, you

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 3>know he's a fruit.

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 2>She says, yeah, yeah, and then she realizes that he's

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 2>not going to get the inheritance, so it's really not

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.119
<v Speaker 2>going to work. The friend's not going to work. But

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 2>it is super interesting. I did not really remember that.

0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I like that whole moment.

0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I liked it too.

0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:00.639
<v Speaker 2>And Stanford's like so sweet and like vulnerable. And you

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 2>remember when he goes he puts an ad in the

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 2>paper because we didn't have dating apps, and he basically

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 2>says Ed Harris type and Ed Harris type.

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 3>And which is what you said to me? When is that? First?

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.280
<v Speaker 4>He said he looks like Ed Harrison? And then I

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.199
<v Speaker 4>say to you, Ed Harris, how about Ed? I have

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 4>no Harris.

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 2>And then this guy walks up to him on the

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 2>street and it's like, this is.

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not gonna happen. His little face welcome to

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:35.120
<v Speaker 3>the gay world. Oh my gosh, the little side face.

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.119
<v Speaker 3>So it just broke my little heart.

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 6>Okay.

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:54.919
<v Speaker 2>Then oh, then there's there's the insanity of the Rabbit,

0:23:55.280 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 2>which really goes on for quite some your addiction time, right, well,

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>just and then the you know, like Charlotte's version of lying.

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 2>It's really funny, like, oh, you know, I'm supposed.

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 3>To go out with you to go to the Kelly,

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 3>but then they came up then make it, I know,

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 3>which is really really cute, door, really.

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Really cute, so cute.

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 3>I love them breaking down my door and taking care

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 3>of me. It's so cute.

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 2>It's so so cute. And then I say that I

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 2>think I broke my vagina.

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 4>That's right, wow, yes, yea. Knowing what your character became,

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 4>it's like wow. And the fact that you got you're

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 4>the one that got objected to this thing, that whole

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 4>thing is just.

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 2>But that was that, yes, exactly, I agree. And they

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 2>were trying to figure out, like what can we do

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't you don't see coming? You know what I'm

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 2>saying with her, And I was just trying to pull

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>it off so that they weren't like get rid of her.

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm serious, it was on my mind. I was scared.

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I was very scared for most of it. So I'm

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 2>just like, how could I make this? And also I've

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 2>been in an acting class for so long, right, So

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to make everything as real as I

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 2>possibly can, do you know what I mean? But it's

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 2>really cute when they come over. I love it very

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 2>very much. I love it and I really want to

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 2>watch it again. That's how cute it was, because it

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 2>seems like we're in high school. Yeah, it's like a

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 2>weirdly good episode.

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 3>And I remember when I saw it about a month ago.

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is a really good episode, and.

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 5>Did you thought that?

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I just I just thought the whole first season I

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 2>remembered it, which is crazy. See, I thought that the

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Rabbit episode would have been later, like I remember things

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 2>from it, but I don't remember them.

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 3>And I was surprised it was the episode when I

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 3>started rewriting again. Yeah, the other day.

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 4>Because I was like, wait, I just saw this and

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 4>this was from the first season totally.

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. That's why Cynthia always told me that the

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>first season was good and I was like, no, no,

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 2>she's right, right, Okay, so we're back with Beg. Carrie

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>tells Beg that she got a proposal. She's smoking and

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 2>which is hysterical. Isn't it funny to watch her smoking?

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right?

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>And like almost blows the up. And do you remember

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 2>when when he does a smoke ring. I remember that

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>he was like very proud of himself that he's smok ring. Okay, wait,

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>this is the intervention. Now we're back to Samantha with

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the turtle, which again so adorable and sweet and he's sweet.

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 2>He is kind of feel bad for him.

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 5>Oh wait, it's Stanford's grandmother.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Yo.

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, that makes more sense. That makes more sense,

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 2>becuse I was gonna say, we really don't see anyone's parents.

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 2>His grandmother who has the money. That makes sense. Then

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 2>we're back. Now this scene really really killed me because

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 2>there's so many future callbacks to this scene where Big

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 2>is making sauce okay and giving her the spook.

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, right, he has an issue.

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, well he was like, you brown the onion,

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 4>and you brown the garlic and then you throw in

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 4>the onion.

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, opposite you.

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 4>You brought you brown the onion and then rowing the

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 4>garlic quickly, and then you throw your sauce in and

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 4>then you cook it.

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I just made it, and the other day that's all

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I do is make sauce. Okay. Yeah, so that was wrong.

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember how many times throughout the years they've

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 2>done this, and like in the movie do it in

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 2>their beautiful apartment. I know, what's you know, it's adorable,

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 2>I know, but it's also like that's the hymn that

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I like, you know, like when I'm like this this,

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 2>I can see there had.

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 4>To be a certain thing about him, even at the

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.959
<v Speaker 4>very beginning, that you rooted for and was hoping for

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 4>that change and for that connection and ultimately that marriage.

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>So you know, but see, there are fans who would

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 2>say that they were not hoping sure, and there are

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 2>fans who would say that they were on aiden not

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 2>big you know what I mean? It was always right,

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 2>but for sure. I mean the writers definitely it was

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.719
<v Speaker 2>like the central storyline for her right too big or

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 2>not too big?

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, right, do you know what I mean? But

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 3>they were, yeah, the sauce thing. I but I love

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 3>that scene.

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a great scene. And she basically says,

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>you know this other marriage proposal, like God is not

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna it's got not going to work out. And then

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>she says that she does want to get married someday.

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>And when you think about that, this is season one

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 2>and they're having this conversation and how many years of

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 2>show and then movies would go on for this to

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>get worked out. But I also think it's very real.

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean, and also when they're in bed together and

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 4>she's like trying to be all cool, we'll getting right

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 4>married and yeah, I got a proposal today, and and

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 4>then he said Stanfford and he was and he knew.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 3>He was, like isn't he isn't he gay? Uh huh?

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 4>And so the cockiness kind of flips back around, like.

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>That kind of right that they because like, do you

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>remember early on when he's kind of evaded her wherever

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 2>they're supposed to get together, they didn't get together, And

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>she sees him on the street and she leans over

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 2>and tells him the word of the crossroad puzzle, Like

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 2>it's nice how they like trade power and right, and

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that's that's the saving grace of it, all right, if

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>it was just him being aloof the.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Whole time, boo.

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 2>But they trade back and forth. But this scene in particular,

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I felt like, at least we're seeing the potential of him,

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 2>the potential of their relationship, the potential of him being

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 2>nice to her, Like he holds her and kisses her

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>at the end is kind of reassuring to her, even

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>though he doesn't say, oh, yes, I do want to

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 2>get right. He doesn't say that, but his actions are

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>more like caretaking and make her feel you know, good.

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Which is interesting.

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Then the okay, but settling, and then I got the

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.719
<v Speaker 2>paper in front of me. Yes, the theme is settling,

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 2>which I think is obviously a fantastic theme and still

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>incredibly relevant. But we don't get a solution. Of course,

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't get a solution. How could we get a

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 2>solution to that? And also this is still a question

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>in society, like what's more important to you? Security? Right,

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the security of relationship or not something? Sometimes that's the choice.

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anything, people do both. It's plenty of people that

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 3>do both.

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 4>And you they either settle, and they settle because it's

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 4>money and power involved. And you know, yeah, I don't

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 4>let me tell you something. I always said this I was,

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's going to be on my gravestone. What

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I can buy the whole I can't be one.

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I do not think that you should put that

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>on your.

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 4>But I mean what I mean, but metaphorically what I

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 4>mean is I can't. I don't care how much money

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 4>you have, So I'm not going to be with you

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 4>for money.

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I I mean, I'll buy my my suite at

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 7>the day we're seeing Rome, I'll buy this, but I'll

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 7>buy a car to get me something, you know, But

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 7>I can't.

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I was like, I'll be fine. I'm the

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:55.719
<v Speaker 3>one that's gonna have the money. That's how you do it.

0:30:56.040 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I would never marry somebody I know, right,

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand that.

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand it either. And the thing that I

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>think is really dangerous about it is if you're a

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>young woman like Charlotte, right, And I mean the thing

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>that I do love about Charlotte though, is first season

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>she talks about the gallery every single episode, which I love,

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 2>like work is important to her, you know, which I

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 2>really love and I had forgotten, Like most of her arcs,

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>it's mentioned, you know, and then more so it comes

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 2>back than goodness. So it's not like she's like I

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want to work, you know. The later obviously there's

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 2>a time when she does it work and the girls

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 2>are like, you're not even working? Do you remember this

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>later on? Anyway, I think that the mistake that you know, mentally,

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Relying on someone else financially when you're young is a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a mistake that people very commonly make

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<v Speaker 2>because you have to you have to get those skills

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<v Speaker 2>yourself through so that you'll be okay, right, because but

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you can't rely on those other people and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're left dry and it's way.

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<v Speaker 3>Stressful or you're miserable exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Which seems like a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the problem is they're relying on right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can get married, you can settle, you can

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<v Speaker 2>do all the different things, just don't rely on them,

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<v Speaker 2>like keep your own bank account.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right, it's important. See, and Jerry

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel the same way you do.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we're very you know, look we have our money,

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<v Speaker 4>but we're we're we're separate with things too, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, look it's there's.

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<v Speaker 4>Times he made more money than me and times I

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 4>made more money than him, and and that's just you

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<v Speaker 4>just rely on each other, went back and forth, which

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<v Speaker 4>is a very healthy thing.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a very healthy thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And also because that means the power is even in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationships, right, yeah, right, Mario, You're amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just looking at my papers. I think we've done it.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's even like Jerry and I working together. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>when I did my One Man, he wrote all my music.

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<v Speaker 4>He writes my music for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>We work together everyone that you know, we've done shows together.

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<v Speaker 4>We we advise each other. It's a it is a

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<v Speaker 4>real balance of power.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful, you know, beautiful, and we love each other.

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<v Speaker 4>We scare each other a little bit, you know, because

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<v Speaker 4>we're both strict sometimes with things, and you know, we're

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<v Speaker 4>both control freaks. I think, well, not not in not

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<v Speaker 4>in the not in a horrible way, not in the

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<v Speaker 4>way where it rips apart our relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I just want to know he's safe and okay,

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<v Speaker 3>of course that's unhealthy for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Because we're getting older, and you know, I think about

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<v Speaker 4>life and yeah, I just do.

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<v Speaker 3>We all do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we all do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, And that's what I love about it, just

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 4>like that is everybody's older and we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone is changing in some way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, the audience loves some of it and

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 4>hate some of it, and it's just but it's like

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<v Speaker 4>too bad, this is life. You accept these changes and you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Anthony has changed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I when I first said to Michael, you know, when

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<v Speaker 4>I had the hot fellas, I was like, so, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be messing around with these.

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<v Speaker 3>She said no. He said no, no, no, no, because.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't where you eat this is, this is she said.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, you've evolved. You're the one that You're the

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<v Speaker 4>one that's not that doesn't do that anymore, which is

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<v Speaker 4>why when you find out in the second season that

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<v Speaker 4>I only hired straight men, I forgot.

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<v Speaker 3>I could, I could not do that.

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 4>And then I find out that Giuseppe is gay, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you're fired.

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I forgot, Yes, you're fired.

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 4>And then I like that we get he quits and

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 4>we get together. So I love that about me.

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<v Speaker 3>See that he's evolved that way. Well, if we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>evolved at all, how boring. That's not real. You know,

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 3>that's not real. It's not real.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and I know I know there's and you

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<v Speaker 2>have done.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just don't don't say anything, just shut up

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<v Speaker 3>and just hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said this to you, But the amount of

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<v Speaker 4>people that think you are so many magnificent.

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<v Speaker 3>In this iteration of the show, and how.

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<v Speaker 5>Walking, how hilarious you are.

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 4>You are really divinely funny than finely funny. You're drunken stuff.

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 4>You're that whole monologue to Harry during the hangover, but

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 4>she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you you. Thank you.

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm just looking to have Michael Patrick writing for me.

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<v Speaker 5>I am too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm lucky to have you as my partner.

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 4>You're my first and original partner, and we're still very

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 4>close friends, even though the kids take you away from

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 4>me sometimes, and I've said that Charlotte's up to her

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<v Speaker 4>ass and kids ship.

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<v Speaker 6>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, it's thank you for being with you.

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<v Speaker 5>I love you verys for finally asking me