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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? We are here at Are You a

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Speaker 1: Charlotte with the fantastic guests Mario kntone and we are

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Speaker 1: going to rewatch episode one oh nine. It's called The

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Speaker 1: Turtle and the Hair and it is directed by Michael Fields.

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Speaker 1: This is the second episode directed by mister Fields, who

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Speaker 1: unfortunately I have.

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Speaker 2: No memory of. I'm very sorry, mister Fields. And it

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Speaker 2: is written by Nicole Averrel and Sue Klensky.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I did stand up comedy. We know both of

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Speaker 3: them who I think I've met.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we worked together many times with while Michael was

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Speaker 4: at the club at.

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Speaker 3: The Okay, so there's a connection.

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Speaker 2: This is the season when our writers weren't really with

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Speaker 2: us necessarily. They were they had written in La. Darren

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Speaker 2: had had a writer's room in La and scripts would

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Speaker 2: come and we wouldn't necessarily meet them, unlike every other year.

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Speaker 2: Right and Jenny.

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Speaker 3: At this point we.

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Speaker 2: Rewatched last episode one eight with Jenny. That was her

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Speaker 2: first Jenny Biggs, that was her first episode. And she

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Speaker 2: reminded me that she had been a consultant, she'd been

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Speaker 2: brought on, she'd been uh, that was her episode to right,

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Speaker 2: and then she was a consultant, so it was her,

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Speaker 2: Darren and Michael in a room, which is kind of

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Speaker 2: amazing to think about it. And I hadn't really remembered

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Speaker 2: that she had been around the first season, which is

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Speaker 2: kind of a.

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Speaker 3: Jenny after Sex and the City put me on two

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Speaker 3: seasons of men in trees.

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Speaker 5: No way, come on.

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Speaker 6: Yeh.

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Speaker 3: She was great.

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Speaker 2: She's the best. Okay, So this is a very interesting episode.

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Speaker 2: Saw all the episodes in the first season, right, so

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Speaker 2: as you know, all of us are in it, and

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Speaker 2: then we have we start at this crazy wedding.

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Speaker 3: Didn't it look like it was the eighties? Yeah? Well yeah,

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Speaker 2: Wasn't the eighties, but I mean the colors in the

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Speaker 2: at one point, Samantha goes to a restaurants just supposedly

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Speaker 2: the talk of the town, and I'm like, what what.

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Speaker 3: Is that restaurant?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the bar, and yeah, it's like the saddest

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Speaker 2: talk of the town restaurant I've ever seen. But we

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Speaker 2: later and now especially but you know, luckily now we

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Speaker 3: But back in the day not so much.

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Speaker 2: No one knew who we were or what we were doing.

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Speaker 2: So we begin at this wedding where a character named

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Speaker 2: Brooke not played by myself.

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Speaker 3: A little bit confusing because I have previously.

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Speaker 2: Played a character named Brook for Darren, but Noah is

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Speaker 2: not me. She's getting married, but Carrie thinks that she's

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Speaker 2: getting married to someone who she doesn't really love, and

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Speaker 2: this begins the thematic conversation of is everyone in New

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Speaker 2: York settling in their relationships? Which is a really good

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Speaker 2: conversation to have and a very very important, I.

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Speaker 3: Think conversation to say.

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Speaker 2: In my mind, obviously I'm single, but in my mind,

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Speaker 2: you should never settle, like I do not think that

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Speaker 2: I love There's this one moment. I'm just gonna talk

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Speaker 2: to you about it now. I sometimes go out of order.

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Speaker 2: There's this one moment where Carrie goes out with the

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Speaker 2: bride after the wedding to return some wedding gifts, and

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Speaker 2: she's still trying to figure out like, is she happy?

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Speaker 3: Is she not happy?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Is she pleased with her decision or not?

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Speaker 2: If she doesn't really love the guy, which doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: like she's passionately in love. And she says something like

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Speaker 2: what does it feel like to be married? And the

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Speaker 3: A weight has been lifted? And I felt that.

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Speaker 2: I felt that, And isn't that crazy that I would

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Speaker 2: still feel that today in twenty twenty five, And I

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Speaker 2: know that things have changed about this, but like, we

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Speaker 3: Whatever way that is.

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Speaker 2: It might be married, it might not be married, whatever

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Speaker 2: it is, it is a social situation where people want

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Speaker 5: Oh sure, and it is stressful.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it is.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it is right, especially for I think, well

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Speaker 4: back in my day, especially for straight people.

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Speaker 3: He were gay, they were like whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, But then gay marriage became acceptable. And I don't know,

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Speaker 2: do you feel that pressure now you've been married for

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Speaker 2: a long time, do you feel like that pressure?

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Speaker 4: I never felt that pressure because I just I'm a coupler.

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Speaker 4: It definitely was always a coupler. I wanted to be

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Speaker 4: with somebody, right, Yeah, But when I met Jerry, it

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Speaker 3: I knew.

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Speaker 2: Go on, Oh he's awesome. He didn't settle at all.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, so wait, this is okay. So first

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Speaker 2: of all, let me talk about how we look at

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Speaker 2: the wedding, because what's going on with all of our hairs.

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Speaker 4: My hair, it's so you but in that corner with

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Speaker 4: all the weekends insane, it is ads right, it is as.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen that. What were we thinking? And you

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Speaker 2: Punk thing, and we talk about like that were and

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Speaker 2: then they when they cut towards at the kids table o,

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Speaker 2: My god, I almost fell out.

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Speaker 3: Because this still happens to me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's rough to go to a wedding at

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Speaker 2: don't really don't want to do that, but you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes people do get married, and I do feel like

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Speaker 2: I should go, So we'll see. But when coming up,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure she's not. I mean, if I'm sitting with

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, sure. Don't you hate when they mix you

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Speaker 3: up to the separate you. Why are you doing that?

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Speaker 3: That's not right. No, that's not right. People.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to a situation, you know what

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Speaker 3: Right, they can be.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we're at this woman Brooks wedding and we're

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Speaker 3: The reject table. She's so harsh.

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Speaker 2: We've got kids, and then we've got this man, Bernie

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Speaker 2: first of all, Samantha has this whole storyline with him

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Speaker 3: Up and right and settle right.

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Speaker 2: Luckily, she comes to she kind of definitely different than

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Speaker 2: Samantha also is getting kind of worked out, right, because

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Speaker 2: But the nice thing about when she takes this guy out,

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Speaker 2: that he's taking these Chinese herbs, which I totally relate

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Speaker 2: we can work on that. And it's kind of sweet

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Speaker 3: And she actually wants to better him, I know.

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Speaker 2: And then she gives up.

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Speaker 3: He's talking about those mushrooms for too long.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's analyzing the mushrooms in his dish and there's

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Speaker 3: And then she's like I'm out, which is really true.

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Speaker 2: That really man, But that was a very departure type

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Speaker 2: when I mean not similar, but kind of similar. Earlier

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Speaker 3: Kind of cute.

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Speaker 2: And then this is the Rabbit storyline, when we actually

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, we're at the pleasure chest.

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Speaker 4: You know what's funny about this episode. I was rewatching

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Speaker 2: The Yeah, I'm addicted to the Rabbit. Departure for Charlotte,

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Speaker 3: Very different thing for Charlotte. Charlotte is and that's what

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Speaker 3: I saw. I saw the place I thought when I saw.

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Speaker 2: It, I just remember, this was my no.

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Speaker 3: I know, my hair is.

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Speaker 2: A mess, sturdy mean, and I'm wearing green silk.

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Speaker 3: What the heck?

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Speaker 2: And you see like a lot of my apartment, which

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Speaker 3: And where do those books go?

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Speaker 2: Because now in Charlotte's apartment they're all white, They're wrapped

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it's just a design.

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Speaker 3: So Charlotte, I.

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Speaker 5: Know, so Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, back then they were all their real bindings, which

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Speaker 2: Charlotte was interesting, but also.

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Speaker 3: Kind of mysterious. You're like, where's the real who was

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Speaker 3: the real show? Where is she going? Is going to

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, and we of course know, but back then

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Speaker 2: I don't think she knew right because at first she's like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: vibrator is not going to take you out for your birthday.

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Speaker 2: A vibrator is not going to say I love you.

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Speaker 2: She's like, gives them a little speech at the very

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Speaker 2: sad coffee shop. You're at the real coffee shop in

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Speaker 2: Long Island City, that kind of scary coffee shop, sad

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Speaker 3: Do you remember no, yeah, yeah, I remember? You remember

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Speaker 2: The coffee shop is not a set, it's a real

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Speaker 4: I guess there is some social pressure pressure, but there's

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Speaker 2: Say anything, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't want to create problem. No,

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Speaker 4: Look and the rule to one's relationship is none of

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Speaker 3: Well that's when you know that you really has deep feeling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know and go. It fluctuates too, with her

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Speaker 3: Yes, very very long time. Took a movie.

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Speaker 2: It took a movie, and then another kind of I mean,

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Speaker 2: So then I say really adorably that I want my

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Speaker 2: Characters my character definitely, and I think that's great.

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Speaker 3: I'm like the mature voice, which is amazing. You like

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Speaker 2: And see I never realized that in the beginning. I

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Speaker 2: of a major storyline, a big not wanting to get married,

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00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 2: which honestly I hadn't remembered this either.

442
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 3: You know, I like no, I mean, well I don't either.

443
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 2: Because we were in it, you know what I'm saying,

444
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 2: And I think I remembered that, then what happens later

445
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 2: would have made more sense, right.

446
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 3: But I also feel and I talked.

447
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 2: I had Oliver Hudson two episodes again, so sweet.

448
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 3: I love it.

449
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 2: And he's done a lot of work on himself, and

450
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 2: he's also been married a long time and it was

451
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 2: super interesting to talk to him about being a straight

452
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 2: guy and what he remembers before he did and also

453
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: married right, successfully married before and how you know, scared

454
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 2: he was of expressing his feelings and communicating openly, and

455
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: then he learned how important it was and how you

456
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 2: do feel so much more. You're much more available to

457
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 2: love and all the things that can happen when you're

458
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: fully present and not you know, with the wall, right,

459
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 2: But if you look at Big, the fact that he

460
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 2: has this incredible wall up for so long, and somehow

461
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 2: she handles it, she does handle it. I don't even

462
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 2: know how.

463
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 3: I don't know.

464
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 4: You talk about rooting for someone and hoping they're going

465
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 4: to change what she actually did later on, but I.

466
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: Know she waited along, right, But in reality, like now,

467
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 2: we would say, like, don't try to change that person.

468
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: He's not going to change. Yes, we don't change people.

469
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: Right, Isn't that what I would not always say now?

470
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: Right?

471
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: It's interesting, it's interesting, but I also feel like I

472
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: feel and I could be wrong, and maybe we'll ask

473
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 2: Sir Jeska about this where she comes up, I feel like, yes,

474
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 2: she wanted what she wanted, but at a certain point,

475
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: she was also willing to not get everything she wanted

476
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: to stay with him, do you.

477
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Yeah, Because it's not like this.

478
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: In this episode, there's a crazy storyline with Stanford where

479
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: she goes to meet his mother, which I had not

480
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 2: really remembered, right, it's so good.

481
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: Oh.

482
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 2: Also when they go to the ballet, which you know, sir,

483
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 2: Jessica loves your ballet so much, and now she's chairperson

484
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: of the Ballet Committee and does this incredible fundraiser every

485
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: year and raises so much money in New York City

486
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: Ballet and we on and just like that film at

487
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: the Ballet this year, which was incredible and we spent

488
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: so much money doing it. Yep, but we wanted to

489
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: have that iconicy New York situation. But to see she

490
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: and Willie walking around Lincoln Center in the night and

491
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: she wirrel, it's incredible. It's incredible, And way back then,

492
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight we did that, Like, it's amazing

493
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: the kind of footprint of what would come in a

494
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: much more kind of fully fully developed way later.

495
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 4: And in the settling, In the settling situation, even though

496
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 4: they are close friends and they love each other, there's

497
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 4: the idea of them getting married.

498
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: Right, He's like, why not because he would get his inherited.

499
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: He doesn't realize, right, And he would be fine with

500
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 2: her being with Big because he's gay, right, And it

501
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: kind of makes sense and she's like, maybe this does

502
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: make sense.

503
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 3: And then his mom, his mom mother, you guys me

504
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: wi WILLI Stanford's mom and she says, you know, you

505
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: know he's a fruit.

506
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: She says, yeah, yeah, and then she realizes that he's

507
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: not going to get the inheritance, so it's really not

508
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: going to work. The friend's not going to work. But

509
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: it is super interesting. I did not really remember that.

510
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: I like that whole moment.

511
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: I liked it too.

512
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 2: And Stanford's like so sweet and like vulnerable. And you

513
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: remember when he goes he puts an ad in the

514
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: paper because we didn't have dating apps, and he basically

515
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: says Ed Harris type and Ed Harris type.

516
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: And which is what you said to me? When is that? First?

517
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 4: He said he looks like Ed Harrison? And then I

518
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 4: say to you, Ed Harris, how about Ed? I have

519
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: no Harris.

520
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: And then this guy walks up to him on the

521
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: street and it's like, this is.

522
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: No, it's not gonna happen. His little face welcome to

523
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 3: the gay world. Oh my gosh, the little side face.

524
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: So it just broke my little heart.

525
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 6: Okay.

526
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: Then oh, then there's there's the insanity of the Rabbit,

527
00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: which really goes on for quite some your addiction time, right, well,

528
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: just and then the you know, like Charlotte's version of lying.

529
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: It's really funny, like, oh, you know, I'm supposed.

530
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: To go out with you to go to the Kelly,

531
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: but then they came up then make it, I know,

532
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: which is really really cute, door, really.

533
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: Really cute, so cute.

534
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: I love them breaking down my door and taking care

535
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: of me. It's so cute.

536
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: It's so so cute. And then I say that I

537
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: think I broke my vagina.

538
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: That's right, wow, yes, yea. Knowing what your character became,

539
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: it's like wow. And the fact that you got you're

540
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 4: the one that got objected to this thing, that whole

541
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: thing is just.

542
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: But that was that, yes, exactly, I agree. And they

543
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: were trying to figure out, like what can we do

544
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: that doesn't you don't see coming? You know what I'm

545
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: saying with her, And I was just trying to pull

546
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: it off so that they weren't like get rid of her.

547
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm serious, it was on my mind. I was scared.

548
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: I was very scared for most of it. So I'm

549
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: just like, how could I make this? And also I've

550
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: been in an acting class for so long, right, So

551
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to make everything as real as I

552
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: possibly can, do you know what I mean? But it's

553
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: really cute when they come over. I love it very

554
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: very much. I love it and I really want to

555
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: watch it again. That's how cute it was, because it

556
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: seems like we're in high school. Yeah, it's like a

557
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: weirdly good episode.

558
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: And I remember when I saw it about a month ago.

559
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: I was like, this is a really good episode, and.

560
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 5: Did you thought that?

561
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: I just I just thought the whole first season I

562
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 2: remembered it, which is crazy. See, I thought that the

563
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 2: Rabbit episode would have been later, like I remember things

564
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 2: from it, but I don't remember them.

565
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: And I was surprised it was the episode when I

566
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: started rewriting again. Yeah, the other day.

567
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 4: Because I was like, wait, I just saw this and

568
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: this was from the first season totally.

569
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: It's crazy. That's why Cynthia always told me that the

570
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: first season was good and I was like, no, no,

571
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: she's right, right, Okay, so we're back with Beg. Carrie

572
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: tells Beg that she got a proposal. She's smoking and

573
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: which is hysterical. Isn't it funny to watch her smoking?

574
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: Oh?

575
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, right?

576
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: And like almost blows the up. And do you remember

577
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: when when he does a smoke ring. I remember that

578
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: he was like very proud of himself that he's smok ring. Okay, wait,

579
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: this is the intervention. Now we're back to Samantha with

580
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: the turtle, which again so adorable and sweet and he's sweet.

581
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: He is kind of feel bad for him.

582
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: Right.

583
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 5: Oh wait, it's Stanford's grandmother.

584
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: Yo.

585
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that makes more sense. That makes more sense,

586
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: becuse I was gonna say, we really don't see anyone's parents.

587
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: His grandmother who has the money. That makes sense. Then

588
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: we're back. Now this scene really really killed me because

589
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: there's so many future callbacks to this scene where Big

590
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: is making sauce okay and giving her the spook.

591
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: Yes, right, he has an issue.

592
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well he was like, you brown the onion,

593
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 4: and you brown the garlic and then you throw in

594
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: the onion.

595
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, opposite you.

596
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 4: You brought you brown the onion and then rowing the

597
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: garlic quickly, and then you throw your sauce in and

598
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 4: then you cook it.

599
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 3: I just made it, and the other day that's all

600
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: I do is make sauce. Okay. Yeah, so that was wrong.

601
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: Do you remember how many times throughout the years they've

602
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: done this, and like in the movie do it in

603
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: their beautiful apartment. I know, what's you know, it's adorable,

604
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: I know, but it's also like that's the hymn that

605
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: I like, you know, like when I'm like this this,

606
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: I can see there had.

607
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 4: To be a certain thing about him, even at the

608
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 4: very beginning, that you rooted for and was hoping for

609
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: that change and for that connection and ultimately that marriage.

610
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: So you know, but see, there are fans who would

611
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: say that they were not hoping sure, and there are

612
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: fans who would say that they were on aiden not

613
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: big you know what I mean? It was always right,

614
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: but for sure. I mean the writers definitely it was

615
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 2: like the central storyline for her right too big or

616
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: not too big?

617
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 3: You know, right, do you know what I mean? But

618
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: they were, yeah, the sauce thing. I but I love

619
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 3: that scene.

620
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was a great scene. And she basically says,

621
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: you know this other marriage proposal, like God is not

622
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: gonna it's got not going to work out. And then

623
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 2: she says that she does want to get married someday.

624
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: And when you think about that, this is season one

625
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: and they're having this conversation and how many years of

626
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: show and then movies would go on for this to

627
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: get worked out. But I also think it's very real.

628
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: I mean, and also when they're in bed together and

629
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 4: she's like trying to be all cool, we'll getting right

630
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: married and yeah, I got a proposal today, and and

631
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: then he said Stanfford and he was and he knew.

632
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: He was, like isn't he isn't he gay? Uh huh?

633
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: And so the cockiness kind of flips back around, like.

634
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: That kind of right that they because like, do you

635
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: remember early on when he's kind of evaded her wherever

636
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: they're supposed to get together, they didn't get together, And

637
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: she sees him on the street and she leans over

638
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: and tells him the word of the crossroad puzzle, Like

639
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: it's nice how they like trade power and right, and

640
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: that's that's the saving grace of it, all right, if

641
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: it was just him being aloof the.

642
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: Whole time, boo.

643
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: But they trade back and forth. But this scene in particular,

644
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: I felt like, at least we're seeing the potential of him,

645
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: the potential of their relationship, the potential of him being

646
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: nice to her, Like he holds her and kisses her

647
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: at the end is kind of reassuring to her, even

648
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: though he doesn't say, oh, yes, I do want to

649
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: get right. He doesn't say that, but his actions are

650
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: more like caretaking and make her feel you know, good.

651
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: Which is interesting.

652
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: Then the okay, but settling, and then I got the

653
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 2: paper in front of me. Yes, the theme is settling,

654
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: which I think is obviously a fantastic theme and still

655
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: incredibly relevant. But we don't get a solution. Of course,

656
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: we don't get a solution. How could we get a

657
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: solution to that? And also this is still a question

658
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: in society, like what's more important to you? Security? Right,

659
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: the security of relationship or not something? Sometimes that's the choice.

660
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything, people do both. It's plenty of people that

661
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: do both.

662
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: And you they either settle, and they settle because it's

663
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: money and power involved. And you know, yeah, I don't

664
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: let me tell you something. I always said this I was,

665
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: you know, it's going to be on my gravestone. What

666
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: I can buy the whole I can't be one.

667
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: Wow, I do not think that you should put that

668
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: on your.

669
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: But I mean what I mean, but metaphorically what I

670
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: mean is I can't. I don't care how much money

671
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 4: you have, So I'm not going to be with you

672
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: for money.

673
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I I mean, I'll buy my my suite at

674
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 7: the day we're seeing Rome, I'll buy this, but I'll

675
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 7: buy a car to get me something, you know, But

676
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 7: I can't.

677
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: I don't. I was like, I'll be fine. I'm the

678
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 3: one that's gonna have the money. That's how you do it.

679
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 4: And yeah, I would never marry somebody I know, right,

680
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: I don't understand that.

681
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: I know.

682
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: I don't understand it either. And the thing that I

683
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: think is really dangerous about it is if you're a

684
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: young woman like Charlotte, right, And I mean the thing

685
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: that I do love about Charlotte though, is first season

686
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: she talks about the gallery every single episode, which I love,

687
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: like work is important to her, you know, which I

688
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: really love and I had forgotten, Like most of her arcs,

689
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: it's mentioned, you know, and then more so it comes

690
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: back than goodness. So it's not like she's like I

691
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: don't want to work, you know. The later obviously there's

692
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: a time when she does it work and the girls

693
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: are like, you're not even working? Do you remember this

694
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: later on? Anyway, I think that the mistake that you know, mentally,

695
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: Relying on someone else financially when you're young is a mistake.

696
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's a mistake that people very commonly make

697
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: because you have to you have to get those skills

698
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: yourself through so that you'll be okay, right, because but

699
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: sometimes you can't rely on those other people and then

700
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: you're left dry and it's way.

701
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: Stressful or you're miserable exactly.

702
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: Which seems like a nightmare.

703
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: And then you have kids.

704
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: I feel like the problem is they're relying on right,

705
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: Like you can get married, you can settle, you can

706
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: do all the different things, just don't rely on them,

707
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: like keep your own bank account.

708
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right, it's important. See, and Jerry

709
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: and I feel the same way you do.

710
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're very you know, look we have our money,

711
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: but we're we're we're separate with things too, and that's

712
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 4: a good way.

713
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: And yeah, look it's there's.

714
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: Times he made more money than me and times I

715
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 4: made more money than him, and and that's just you

716
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: just rely on each other, went back and forth, which

717
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: is a very healthy thing.

718
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: I think that's a very healthy thing.

719
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: And also because that means the power is even in

720
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: a relationships, right, yeah, right, Mario, You're amazing.

721
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at my papers. I think we've done it.

722
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 4: And there's even like Jerry and I working together. Yes,

723
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: when I did my One Man, he wrote all my music.

724
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: He writes my music for me.

725
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: But that's amazing.

726
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: We work together everyone that you know, we've done shows together.

727
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: We we advise each other. It's a it is a

728
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: real balance of power.

729
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: Beautiful, you know, beautiful, and we love each other.

730
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: We scare each other a little bit, you know, because

731
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: we're both strict sometimes with things, and you know, we're

732
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: both control freaks. I think, well, not not in not

733
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: in the not in a horrible way, not in the

734
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: way where it rips apart our relationship.

735
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: Well, I just want to know he's safe and okay,

736
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: of course that's unhealthy for sure.

737
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: Because we're getting older, and you know, I think about

738
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 4: life and yeah, I just do.

739
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: We all do.

740
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, we all do.

741
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: You know, And that's what I love about it, just

742
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: like that is everybody's older and we are.

743
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: Everyone is changing in some way.

744
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the audience loves some of it and

745
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: hate some of it, and it's just but it's like

746
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: too bad, this is life. You accept these changes and you.

747
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: You know, Anthony has changed.

748
00:33:59,360 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: You know.

749
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: I when I first said to Michael, you know, when

750
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: I had the hot fellas, I was like, so, I'm

751
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: gonna be messing around with these.

752
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: She said no. He said no, no, no, no, because.

753
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 4: You don't where you eat this is, this is she said.

754
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: He said, you've evolved. You're the one that You're the

755
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 4: one that's not that doesn't do that anymore, which is

756
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: why when you find out in the second season that

757
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 4: I only hired straight men, I forgot.

758
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: I could, I could not do that.

759
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 4: And then I find out that Giuseppe is gay, and

760
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're fired.

761
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot, Yes, you're fired.

762
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: And then I like that we get he quits and

763
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: we get together. So I love that about me.

764
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: See that he's evolved that way. Well, if we haven't

765
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: evolved at all, how boring. That's not real. You know,

766
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: that's not real. It's not real.

767
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: I know, and I know I know there's and you

768
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: have done.

769
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: Can I just don't don't say anything, just shut up

770
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: and just hear it.

771
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: And I said this to you, But the amount of

772
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: people that think you are so many magnificent.

773
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: In this iteration of the show, and how.

774
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: Walking, how hilarious you are.

775
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: You are really divinely funny than finely funny. You're drunken stuff.

776
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 4: You're that whole monologue to Harry during the hangover, but

777
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 4: she doesn't.

778
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you you. Thank you.

779
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: I'm just looking to have Michael Patrick writing for me.

780
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 5: I am too.

781
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: I'm lucky to have you as my partner.

782
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: You're my first and original partner, and we're still very

783
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: close friends, even though the kids take you away from

784
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 4: me sometimes, and I've said that Charlotte's up to her

785
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 4: ass and kids ship.

786
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 6: I know.

787
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

788
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's thank you for being with you.

789
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 5: I love you verys for finally asking me