1
00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,760
Speaker 1: Hi. This is Buzznight that host the Taketo Walk podcast.

2
00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,000
Speaker 2: And now we've got to look at music history for

3
00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,640
Speaker 2: the week of April twenty first, and for that, as

4
00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,040
Speaker 2: we always do, we go over to the music history

5
00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,920
Speaker 2: desk to the one and only music fan podcaster purveyor

6
00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,080
Speaker 2: of all things music history, Harry Jacobs.

7
00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,800
Speaker 1: Welcome back, purveyor. Is that like to do?

8
00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,400
Speaker 3: Would you consider like a hot dog vendor on the

9
00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,800
Speaker 3: Boston Common or in you know, in Manhattan, the purveyor

10
00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,160
Speaker 3: of hot dogs? I mean, is that the same kind

11
00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,440
Speaker 3: of thing? When you say purveyor, I'm a you know,

12
00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,479
Speaker 3: not necessarily a salesperson, but but I give the information out.

13
00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't have said it any better.

14
00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,800
Speaker 3: Just like a hot dog vendor, only with music history.

15
00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,960
Speaker 3: And with that in mind. April twenty first, nineteen sixty one,

16
00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,560
Speaker 3: the Beatles got together for the first time in public

17
00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,800
Speaker 3: at the Cavern Club. What I what I've noticed it

18
00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,360
Speaker 3: started doing this. There is not a week in music

19
00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,959
Speaker 3: history in the four months we've been doing this that

20
00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,959
Speaker 3: there's not something Beetle related in any given week.

21
00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,520
Speaker 1: And you gotta love that, right, Yeah, you gotta love it.

22
00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,880
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Liverpool.

23
00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,480
Speaker 3: I have not, and it's on my list.

24
00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have not either, and I think.

25
00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,520
Speaker 2: As I'm married to a photographer and we have talked

26
00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,640
Speaker 2: about this, she and I that would be a place

27
00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:37,720
Speaker 2: just Liverpool in general, because of the grittiness. She doesn't like,

28
00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,839
Speaker 2: you know, perfect things. To evidence by her being married

29
00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,039
Speaker 2: to me, she doesn't like perfect things as subjects. She

30
00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:50,160
Speaker 2: likes things that have great imperfections, and Liverpool seems like

31
00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,920
Speaker 2: that place. I'm sure if we went to the Caravan

32
00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,120
Speaker 2: Club we would be probably underwhelmed to some degree. It

33
00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,440
Speaker 2: would not be what we imagine it, but that definitely,

34
00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,840
Speaker 2: you know, would love to make that trip.

35
00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,080
Speaker 3: You can tour Abbey Road as well. I mean, there

36
00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,760
Speaker 3: are plenty of plenty of things and places you know

37
00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,239
Speaker 3: to go.

38
00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,440
Speaker 4: Have done that, I got to Oh okay, I got

39
00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,280
Speaker 4: to do that one time once again. Incredible experience. But

40
00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,040
Speaker 4: when you're there you understand the history and the depth

41
00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,160
Speaker 4: of it, but it's you kind of go.

42
00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,639
Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't picture it to look like this.

43
00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,160
Speaker 3: You know.

44
00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,440
Speaker 1: I think that's the way with a lot of things.

45
00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,320
Speaker 1: Did you and I ever have the conversation about Mount Rushmore.

46
00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,679
Speaker 3: No, I'm a motorcycle guy and I've taken a couple

47
00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,280
Speaker 3: of trips to Sturgis, and one of those trips, you know,

48
00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,639
Speaker 3: I wanted to see Mount Rushmore. You know, the history

49
00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,600
Speaker 3: and this is an important part of our country, and

50
00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,800
Speaker 3: I was underwhelmed it was so small. It was you know,

51
00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,320
Speaker 3: we see it in pictures and we see it on

52
00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,520
Speaker 3: television and it looks like it's enormous. But the first

53
00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,400
Speaker 3: thought I had in my head was, Holy God, this

54
00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,200
Speaker 3: is small. So but things are often different than we imagine.

55
00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,480
Speaker 1: They're going to be different perspective, that's right.

56
00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. On this date in nineteen ninety, McCartney had a

57
00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,840
Speaker 3: concert in Rio and and this.

58
00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,720
Speaker 1: Is the world. He holds the world's record, at least

59
00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:20,240
Speaker 1: at that point.

60
00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,040
Speaker 3: He did one hundred and eighty four thousand people at

61
00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,359
Speaker 3: the Paul McCartney show in nineteen ninety.

62
00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,480
Speaker 2: I wonder how many ambulances were there to watch over

63
00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,320
Speaker 2: the crowd during that experience.

64
00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,320
Speaker 3: I would imagine and Rio is a tough city, right,

65
00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,880
Speaker 3: There's a lot of a lot of crime. There's a

66
00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,000
Speaker 3: lot of nonsense that happens down there. I saw him

67
00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,680
Speaker 3: by that run in nineteen ninety at the Centrum and

68
00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:43,640
Speaker 3: I was just.

69
00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,120
Speaker 1: Blown away, like hearing him sing Fool on the Hill

70
00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,240
Speaker 1: and you know all these I mean full in the Hills,

71
00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,360
Speaker 1: I think probably my.

72
00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,000
Speaker 3: Favorite, you know, Beatles song. But hearing him sing those

73
00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,600
Speaker 3: Beatles songs and I know it's just it's you know,

74
00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,240
Speaker 3: it makes you emotional to hear and he loves them

75
00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,400
Speaker 3: like his, they're his. It's like there is kids.

76
00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.

77
00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,200
Speaker 3: April twenty second, nineteen seventy, the first Earth Day was celebrated,

78
00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,920
Speaker 3: and it was founded by a politician and a conservationist.

79
00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,040
Speaker 3: Day Lord Nelson was his name. Little history with birth Day,

80
00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:19,920
Speaker 3: don't we buss?

81
00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeahs, only we could milk something for the certificates of

82
00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,159
Speaker 2: what we were doing that This was the day every

83
00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,839
Speaker 2: year that our former radio station WZOX would do the

84
00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,320
Speaker 2: free concert on the Hatshell known as.

85
00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,280
Speaker 1: The b N So we chose to do. Do I

86
00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,760
Speaker 1: have that right? Am I confusing this with Bos's Earth

87
00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,440
Speaker 1: Day Concert? I think I am.

88
00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,120
Speaker 3: You know what, I think You're probably right? So WBOS

89
00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,520
Speaker 3: this is fine. We're going to leave this in here

90
00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,760
Speaker 3: because it just shows our lack of memory for that

91
00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,960
Speaker 3: time in Hayes in the mid nineties. But you ran,

92
00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,360
Speaker 3: first of all, you ran w CLX for those listening

93
00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,440
Speaker 3: in the Boston area legendary class sick rock station w ZX.

94
00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,320
Speaker 1: And that's basically how Buzz and I connected.

95
00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,040
Speaker 3: We did concerts on the hatshell at that, you know,

96
00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,920
Speaker 3: when we were at that station, a whole bunch of

97
00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,320
Speaker 3: different things, the band and Peter Frampton and Warren Zevon.

98
00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,000
Speaker 1: And boy Ry.

99
00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,920
Speaker 3: I will never speak ill that that, but Warren Zevon,

100
00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,560
Speaker 3: I want to pain any ass that guy was to me. Yeah,

101
00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,680
Speaker 3: he insisted on vegetables from Whole Foods or whatever it

102
00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,960
Speaker 3: was raw so we could he could juice them, but

103
00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,839
Speaker 3: he smoked one cigarette after another. He literally smoked me

104
00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,960
Speaker 3: out of his dressing room.

105
00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,960
Speaker 1: But we get a whole series of concerts.

106
00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,359
Speaker 3: And then after you were at ZLX, you went to

107
00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,520
Speaker 3: go work for Greater Media and we're overseeing a bunch

108
00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,440
Speaker 3: of stations, including WBOS and they.

109
00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,440
Speaker 1: Had the earth Dake concert.

110
00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,400
Speaker 3: That's what you're thinking about ZLX, we did the b

111
00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,600
Speaker 3: in the classic b in and at WBOS, I think

112
00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,479
Speaker 3: they did the Earthqake.

113
00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,560
Speaker 1: I never worked at that station, but I remember you

114
00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,080
Speaker 1: work on that.

115
00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, and a lot of great artists over the

116
00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,560
Speaker 2: years would play at that at that event. Yeah, I

117
00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,400
Speaker 2: mean Brandy Carlisle before she became a big star that

118
00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,800
Speaker 2: she is to this day.

119
00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,440
Speaker 1: You know Guster for a number of years who always

120
00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,000
Speaker 1: doing this popularity.

121
00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:16,200
Speaker 2: WBOS was called an adult alternative station Triple A, So

122
00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,279
Speaker 2: there's a lot of acts like that. But I'm sure

123
00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm missing a lot of cool artists that played it

124
00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,039
Speaker 2: at that event. I think, you know, spin doctors come

125
00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,800
Speaker 2: to mind. But yeah, I was screwing up the b

126
00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,640
Speaker 2: N with bos's Earth Day celebration.

127
00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,680
Speaker 3: Listen, we're not getting any younger. The mind is one

128
00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,680
Speaker 3: of the first things to go next to our knees

129
00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,120
Speaker 3: and hips, so I get it. It's okay. April twenty third,

130
00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,560
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty three, the Beatles and the Stones met for

131
00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,080
Speaker 3: the first time. And it wasn't out back of the

132
00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,479
Speaker 3: Cavern Club by the dumpster for a fight. It was

133
00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,680
Speaker 3: a friendly meeting at the Crawdaddy Club in England.

134
00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,080
Speaker 1: But that must have been an interesting meeting. Salty would

135
00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,640
Speaker 1: be the way I would describe the meeting. I bet, yeah, yeah.

136
00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,800
Speaker 3: A lot of competition between the two and as we've

137
00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,760
Speaker 3: talked about, you were in one camp or you were

138
00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,640
Speaker 3: in the other. Again, I go back to the Alex

139
00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,880
Speaker 3: Lifson interview that you did where he talked about you

140
00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,480
Speaker 3: asked him about influences and you know, Beatles or Stones.

141
00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,800
Speaker 3: He said owardly, I'm you know, I'm a Stone's guy,

142
00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:22,760
Speaker 3: not a Beatles fan.

143
00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate George Harrison, but I'm a Ston's guy. That's right.

144
00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably an interesting meeting Salty in nineteen seventy six.

145
00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,080
Speaker 3: On April twenty three, the Ramones released their self titled

146
00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,600
Speaker 3: debut album, a seminal work in punk rock history. Two

147
00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,200
Speaker 3: things here. One Joey Ramones the ugliest looking guy in

148
00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,480
Speaker 3: music history as far as I'm concerned. And number two,

149
00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,320
Speaker 3: I missed the boat on Puck. I know nothing about

150
00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,560
Speaker 3: the Ramones other than Joey's tall and he looks like

151
00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,640
Speaker 3: Howard Stern.

152
00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:57,120
Speaker 2: So well, it's some of it passed me by at

153
00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,640
Speaker 2: the point it was out for sure, not gonna lie,

154
00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,200
Speaker 2: and over time it would I would grow into it.

155
00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,960
Speaker 2: And if you want to check out a really cool

156
00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,600
Speaker 2: past episode of Taking a Walk. Danny Fields, who was

157
00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:18,320
Speaker 2: the main instrumental almost in defining what punk rock would become.

158
00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,600
Speaker 2: Uh he was their their manager at the time and

159
00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,000
Speaker 2: probably their publicist.

160
00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,280
Speaker 1: Also was for Lou Reed over a period of time.

161
00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,200
Speaker 2: And but we took a walk through Greenwich Village and

162
00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,440
Speaker 2: walked by Joey ramone way, and uh had quite a

163
00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,120
Speaker 2: quite a time telling telling stories. But Danny, Uh, Danny,

164
00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,640
Speaker 2: God love him and is in his early eighties and

165
00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,160
Speaker 2: still as feisty as ever.

166
00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,840
Speaker 3: Were you into the Ramones' music right anyway?

167
00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,400
Speaker 2: But but then when you know, over time, especially with

168
00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,080
Speaker 2: some of the mainstream rock stations, who would play music

169
00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,040
Speaker 2: that was with touch punk and would be you know,

170
00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,640
Speaker 2: to play some of these anthems because let's face it.

171
00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,760
Speaker 1: Come to off high school had anthems.

172
00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting. April twenty six, nineteen sixty nine, you know

173
00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,800
Speaker 3: again we got another Beatles related the story multiple times

174
00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,320
Speaker 3: in this In this week, McCartney denied rumors that he

175
00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,880
Speaker 3: was dead, addressing this, you know, Paul is dead.

176
00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,079
Speaker 1: The conspiracy that ran around. Did the Beatles have.

177
00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,800
Speaker 3: A lot to do with that, you know, with like

178
00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,520
Speaker 3: a day in a life and and there were there

179
00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,800
Speaker 3: were things tied to that period of time.

180
00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,320
Speaker 1: Where did they.

181
00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,120
Speaker 3: Perpetuate this conspiracy that that Paul was dead?

182
00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

183
00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,080
Speaker 2: I think it's sort of the equivalent which we've talked

184
00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,400
Speaker 2: about in previous episodes of of How Pink.

185
00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,280
Speaker 1: Floyd with the Wizard of Oz stuff. I think how

186
00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,360
Speaker 1: maybe perpetuate would be harsh.

187
00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,120
Speaker 2: They certainly didn't discourage some of the chatter because they

188
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,760
Speaker 2: they understood how to work the media and basically, but

189
00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,479
Speaker 2: I don't know of perpetuate, maybe just shy perpetuate.

190
00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, any press is good press, right,

191
00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,160
Speaker 3: So they kind of rode on it.

192
00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,880
Speaker 1: And then McCartney came out and yep and.

193
00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,400
Speaker 3: Said, you know, I'm alive them here long before there

194
00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,360
Speaker 3: was cloning, that's right, exactly yep. In nineteen eighty six

195
00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,200
Speaker 3: April twenty sixth Van Halen started a three week run

196
00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,400
Speaker 3: for fifty one fifty their album with Sammy Hagar two

197
00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,240
Speaker 3: camps right, two van actually three with Gary Sherome. But really,

198
00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,760
Speaker 3: when you think about Van Halen, you know mainly two lives.

199
00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,640
Speaker 3: They got a Roth life and they got a Sammy

200
00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,400
Speaker 3: Hagar life. Sammy point I want to ask you about

201
00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,760
Speaker 3: your perspective on it. But Sammy pointed out something very

202
00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,080
Speaker 3: interesting about that. You know, the Wroth era was ain't

203
00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,400
Speaker 3: talking about love, right. The Sami area was why can't

204
00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,600
Speaker 3: this be lof right? So Sammy would sing these songs

205
00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,320
Speaker 3: about love and heartbreak, and the wroth iteration of van

206
00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,000
Speaker 3: Halen was, you know, I don't give a shit James crying.

207
00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,800
Speaker 3: He't talking about love like you know it was. It's

208
00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,120
Speaker 3: kind of an interesting dichotomy between those two guys.

209
00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:22,240
Speaker 2: That's an interesting analysis. I saw that I'm run of

210
00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:28,320
Speaker 2: shows then, and I found it really enjoyable, you know,

211
00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,959
Speaker 2: seeing them and seeing you know, Sammy and I liked

212
00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,480
Speaker 2: I liked that album, you know, I mean definitely for

213
00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,720
Speaker 2: probably real super super hardcore van Halen fans was pansying

214
00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,720
Speaker 2: out a bit, but I liked a lot of those songs.

215
00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I.

216
00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000
Speaker 3: I liked it too. I loved Sammy with I never

217
00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,800
Speaker 3: got to see him with with van Halen, but I

218
00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,839
Speaker 3: liked that music at that time. And I have you.

219
00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,400
Speaker 2: Met him, Yeah, he's a total gentleman to Yeah, it's great,

220
00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,120
Speaker 2: just a nice man.

221
00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,239
Speaker 1: I asked him about when I met him the album

222
00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what was out mid you know again, around.

223
00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,640
Speaker 3: This time after he after he left so before Gary Charon,

224
00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,000
Speaker 3: around ninety five ninety six. In that time, I met

225
00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,400
Speaker 3: him and I asked him about the van Halen thing,

226
00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,280
Speaker 3: and he was still heartbroken by it. You could see him.

227
00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,679
Speaker 3: I noticed that. My takeaway was not just when he's

228
00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,840
Speaker 3: a great guy, but he's still really emotional. Was van

229
00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,040
Speaker 3: halen breakup really hit him hard?

230
00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:29,920
Speaker 1: Interesting?

231
00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,560
Speaker 3: You know? So he's got to run of shows here

232
00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,920
Speaker 3: in Vegas. He and Bruce Springsteen share the same road manager,

233
00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,559
Speaker 3: a guy by the name of Wayne Lebau who used

234
00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,240
Speaker 3: to work for the Boston Celtics, and Wayne lives in Framingham.

235
00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,840
Speaker 3: He's a He's a guy we know. And Wayne's gonna

236
00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,040
Speaker 3: be here in Vegas and I'm gonna I'm gonna get

237
00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,040
Speaker 3: to go see Sammy, So I will. If I get

238
00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,240
Speaker 3: to see Sammy, I will ask him about taking.

239
00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,080
Speaker 1: A walk awesome with you. So you get that.

240
00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,920
Speaker 3: There two final things for this week. In nineteen eighty five,

241
00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,840
Speaker 3: Coke introduced the New Coke, which is this reformation of

242
00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:11,640
Speaker 3: their legendary formula was out there and widespread dissatisfaction would

243
00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,600
Speaker 3: be the two words that come to mind when you

244
00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,920
Speaker 3: think about New Coke.

245
00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,040
Speaker 2: And to this day, if you have a conversation around

246
00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:24,360
Speaker 2: branding and marketing strategy, this is one that is looked

247
00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,040
Speaker 2: at in the.

248
00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,160
Speaker 1: Books as a classic failure.

249
00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,280
Speaker 3: Why would you fix something that's not broken, right, yeah,

250
00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:38,200
Speaker 3: ye crazy nineteen eighty six, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant happened.

251
00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,040
Speaker 3: I believe it was April twenty six, and just an

252
00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,319
Speaker 3: unbelievable tragedy. When you see pictures and you know there's

253
00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,840
Speaker 3: a new documentary that's out, it's on my Amazon list

254
00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,440
Speaker 3: to watch, but it's, you know, an unbelievable thing that

255
00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,080
Speaker 3: happened in Chernobyl.

256
00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:01,200
Speaker 2: Or atrocious, the devastation and the lingering effects for so

257
00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,880
Speaker 2: long they were really not lingering. I mean to this

258
00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,040
Speaker 2: day there's effects that obviously exist.

259
00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, crazy. Well, and anyway, there you go this

260
00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,560
Speaker 3: week in music history, the twenty first through the twenty

261
00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,080
Speaker 3: seventh of April. Next thing, you know, we're in May. Oh, thanks,

262
00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:19,640
Speaker 3: it'd be big.

263
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,080
Speaker 2: There you go, and I'm sure there'll be some Beatles

264
00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,560
Speaker 2: in there, all right, Harry, Well, thank you for another

265
00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,240
Speaker 2: look at music history, and thanks for checking out the

266
00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,440
Speaker 2: Taking a Walk podcast.

267
00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,600
Speaker 1: We are available wherever

268
00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,320
Speaker 2: You get your podcasts and part of the iHeart podcast

269
00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:32,760
Speaker 2: network