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Speaker 3: This is Girls Talkboys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, preferred

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Speaker 4: That intro. Let's start with that.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to Girls Talkboys Talk, presented by jig Sel, the

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Speaker 5: preferred dating partner for the Dallas Cowboys. Christie Scales, Nicole Hutcheson,

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Speaker 5: Aisha Morrison, jest of ours here with you at the

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Speaker 5: SWBC podcast studios, here at the Star and Frisco, Ladies,

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Speaker 5: I wish it wasn't such a somber mood here at

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Speaker 5: the Star and Frisco today because you're Dallas Cowboys coming

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Speaker 5: off of a forty two ten loss.

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Speaker 4: We just heard from Mike McCarthy. I wanted to.

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Speaker 5: Start with some injury updates that we just heard right

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Speaker 5: now from Mike, starting with C. J.

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Speaker 4: Goodwin and Layton vanderash.

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Speaker 5: She said that it is probable that they won't land

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Speaker 5: on ir We'll start there Christy, What does exactly that

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Speaker 5: mean for these guys? What are the limitations of IR?

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Speaker 5: Let's go over that just one more time for anybody.

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Speaker 4: That might not know, what does that mean?

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Speaker 5: As far as if they are placed on IR rules

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Speaker 5: and regular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a couple of different designations. It could

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Speaker 2: mean you're out for the season, but it could also

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Speaker 2: mean four weeks. So for example, guys like Matt will

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Speaker 2: Let's go and Nashan Wright starting the season on IR.

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Speaker 2: After four weeks you opened a three week window in

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Speaker 2: which they could return. So in the old days, IR

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Speaker 2: was the sentence where you are out for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the year, but over the last few years that

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Speaker 2: has changed. But obviously not good news. And Layton vandersh

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Speaker 2: with his history of neck and he's going back to

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and just the awkward way that was a

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Speaker 2: horizontal rock'm sock em robot hit that he took and

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Speaker 2: it was sort of a friendly fire incident where his

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Speaker 2: head was down and he collided. He was pushed into,

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Speaker 2: not in a illegal way, it was not a penalty

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Speaker 2: teammate Michael Parsons, and the way is his neck and

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Speaker 2: head kind of crunched down. It didn't look good at all.

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Speaker 2: So they also most of the guys last night when

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Speaker 2: they left, they didn't go to the locker room. They

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Speaker 2: headed up the tunnel towards the X ray room. So

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Speaker 2: disappointing for Leyton. And then with CJ. Goodwin, he actually

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Speaker 2: went back in for a play, tried to get through

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Speaker 2: with that. First we thought it was a shoulder injury,

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Speaker 2: now we know pectoral, but wasn't able to finish the game.

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Speaker 2: He was out from the second quarter through the remainder

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Speaker 2: of the game, and so very disappointing because he is

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Speaker 2: your special team's ace.

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Speaker 6: It's got some good news though, right Cavante Turbin, at

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Speaker 6: least we assume that it's.

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Speaker 2: Good news for now.

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Speaker 6: I know mac McCarthy was saying that he should be

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Speaker 6: in practice this week, but he'll be kind of keeping

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Speaker 6: an eye out on him. But yeah, losing a guy

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Speaker 6: like him, that would actually add more to the fire

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Speaker 6: if they do lose out on Cavante Turbin. But I

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Speaker 6: think that that's actually some really good news for this offense,

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Speaker 6: especially with the donning schedule they do have coming over

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Speaker 6: the next three four games.

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Speaker 5: So absolutely Another batch of injury news was we talked

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Speaker 5: about Dak Prescott off to the side with Mike and

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Speaker 5: he said he's good.

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Speaker 4: Nothing to worry about there.

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Speaker 2: His his finger got stepped on and so he had

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Speaker 2: it was his middle finger. It was his middle finger,

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Speaker 2: and they did a tape job and bandage around that.

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Speaker 2: That happened earlier in the game.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, so good there and other than that, those are

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Speaker 5: really the three was terp CJ and lighton that Mike

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Speaker 2: Other than that, Tyler Beotdis, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: Biottish, he said he's working through everything still and he's

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Speaker 5: hopeful that he's available for Monday's game.

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Speaker 2: He missed part of one series ironically it was the

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Speaker 2: But they will obviously keep a watchful eye on that

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Speaker 4: Donovan Donovan.

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Speaker 5: He did mention that Donna is is good. He didn't

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Speaker 2: He got it. It was it was good news, though because.

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Speaker 5: He said it was good news, they're just there was

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Speaker 5: a couple of things that they were working through to

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Speaker 4: But he should be he's hopeful. Well we'll leave it

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Speaker 4: at that.

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Speaker 2: So what happened with that is that was late in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter he got his ankle rolled and so

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Speaker 2: in the the blue medical tint, they had taken off

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Speaker 2: the shoe, they had, you know, checked out his ankle

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Speaker 2: So that was, you know good. Obviously, was not going

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter they had already taken out a lot

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Speaker 2: of the starters and the backups were in, so he

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Speaker 2: was not going to re enter the game anyway.

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Speaker 5: Well, we hope the best for all of these guys.

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Speaker 5: Just an already very deflating loss that just keeps pounding

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Speaker 5: at the Dallas Cowboys in their health. So wishing all

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Speaker 5: the best for all these guys. And it's never easy

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Speaker 5: to see a teammate a brother go down, especially with

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Speaker 5: these scary injuries, and just such a reminder of how

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Speaker 5: delicate this game can be in such a short time. Notice,

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Speaker 5: let's get into this game, ladies.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot to unpack here.

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Speaker 5: And I would say we could go through the good,

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Speaker 5: the bad, the ugly, but it was just ugly and

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Speaker 5: bad there.

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Speaker 4: Let's be blunt with it.

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Speaker 5: It was very ugly, very bad, and so let's unpack

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Speaker 5: it and let's go through it.

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Speaker 4: A Ysha, I know, we talked.

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Speaker 5: On the phone earlier today and he said, Lord, I

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Speaker 5: do not want to go through this tape.

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Speaker 8: It hurts.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure, I'm sure it hurt. A second time going

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Speaker 4: through it, he was a little painful. Let's go through.

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Speaker 4: What are some of the things initial.

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Speaker 5: Thoughts that you have. Let's start on the defensive side

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Speaker 5: of the ball. Let's start with the defense. Will work

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Speaker 5: our way to the offense in the second half of

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Speaker 4: Starting with the defense. Initial thoughts.

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Speaker 5: What kind of was the domino that set the domino

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Speaker 8: The pre snap penalties?

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Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, and there obviously were some post snap,

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Speaker 7: but on that first drive, I mean, Donovan Wilson comes in,

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Speaker 7: he feels perfectly, feels perfectly, but he gets a hold

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Speaker 7: out situation, Jaron curse unnecessary roughness and they go there

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Speaker 7: and get seven, and that really kind of set the

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Speaker 7: tone out. I felt like the defense and spots, you know,

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Speaker 7: they had their good plays and they.

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Speaker 8: Held it together as long as they could.

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Speaker 7: I want to say, it was seven to zero at

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Speaker 2: It felt a lot worse.

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Speaker 7: I felt it felt a lot worse. But they played stout.

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Speaker 7: They played stout in certain spots. But I just Jaron

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Speaker 7: Kurs said last week about the Cardinals and when we

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Speaker 7: asked him, like what was the problem, he said, their will.

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Speaker 8: Was stronger than theirs. And that's kind of how it was.

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Speaker 7: This to this past game, is that the forty nine

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Speaker 8: They just really really took it to them in so many.

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Speaker 7: Different areas, and I just was, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 7: I was floored kind of going back and looking because

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Speaker 7: it just wasn't it wasn't to the standard we've seen

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Speaker 6: I think that unnecessary roughness call was actually like the

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Speaker 6: was a huge turning point. And you think about it,

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Speaker 6: you're on threat. They believe it was third and four,

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Speaker 6: third and five, you get that call, third and four,

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Speaker 6: you get that call, and now you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: you get a whole new set of downs. So it's like,

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Speaker 6: at that point, you got to play in clean football.

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Speaker 6: You gotta play clean football. And I just think that

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say it is as nice.

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Speaker 6: As possible, but I mean it was so nice.

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Speaker 4: We stand as nice as possible.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's so much talent on this team that

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Speaker 2: And it was kind of.

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Speaker 6: Like disappointing for me because it's like, you have so

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Speaker 6: Nation was a little hurt about this as well, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: you gotta play clean football in situations like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the disappointing thing for me is not necessarily losing

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Speaker 2: to a team that is the class not only of

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Speaker 2: shame in that. But what's disappointing to me is that

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Speaker 2: there are no excuses entering this game. It's not like

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Speaker 2: our starting offensive linemen. You know this, and going in, oh,

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Speaker 2: we overlooked the Cardinals, you know. It's nothing like that. Coaches, ownership,

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Speaker 2: players talked about this being a measuring stick game and

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Speaker 2: that's what you come out with, you know. So that's

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Speaker 2: to me what was very disappointing is that everybody knew

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Speaker 2: it was on the line, and it really was pretty

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Speaker 2: evenly matched. Other than Trayvon Diggs right, and other than

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Speaker 2: Peyton Hendershot being out, he was really the only guy

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Speaker 2: out with injury. It these were your guys, and San

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Speaker 2: Francisco put it to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what was the most disappointing to watch

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Speaker 5: was how the fight was just sucked out of these

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Speaker 5: could see the fight and then it was just penalty

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Speaker 4: And then after a while it was like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 5: It felt like the big kid at lunch that kept

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Speaker 4: And they didn't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and when you're getting bullied to that extent, you

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Speaker 5: back and the dominoes fell after that. But penalties, guys,

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Speaker 5: you're talking six penalties for sixty yards in this game. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Because the timing of the penalties that killed.

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Speaker 2: You here is it big third doenalties that just said here,

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Speaker 4: And it was Christy, I'm so glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 5: The loss of the Cardinals. There were so many things

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, and injuries, things that happened in that

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Speaker 2: take away the Cowboys did a good job against McCaffrey overall,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Christy was just giving credit to the forty nine

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Speaker 9: With the way Christy's just going to jump over the taile.

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Speaker 8: And I'm not sure if that's the case.

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Speaker 4: It's just they couldn't.

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Speaker 2: This field position. Boy, you lost that field position.

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Speaker 4: It was not there.

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Speaker 5: And then you even talk about third downs during this game,

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Speaker 4: He was frustrated after the game. Christy, you got to

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Speaker 2: Frustrated during the game too. I think that's a little

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Speaker 2: But hey, when it was going to Cede Lamb and

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, man, yeah, you feature them.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you, Ayisha, how do you how

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Speaker 5: How do you start to untangle it? Because it feels

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Speaker 5: like every week the Cowboys have kind of thrown different

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Speaker 5: issues that all tie together in this little pot and

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Speaker 5: they're trying to reach out and say, okay, well how

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Speaker 5: do we fix this now?

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Speaker 4: And you're you're kind of holding this weaved.

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Speaker 5: Web of of confusion and miscommunication.

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Speaker 4: Where do you start with that?

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Speaker 7: Well, for starters, the offensive line, getting some togetherness is

448
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Speaker 7: going to be important. There were their fair share of mistakes,

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Speaker 7: but I.

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Speaker 8: Felt like they held up.

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Speaker 7: Okay, when you have a game where you can't run

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Speaker 7: the ball, you need to be able to pass because

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Speaker 7: there are going to be some teams that can defend

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Speaker 7: the run well. And with that being said, the lack

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Speaker 7: of vertical play on this offense is killing this offense

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Speaker 7: because when you go up against a team that has

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Speaker 7: linebackers that can run sideline to sideline, tackle physically and

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Speaker 7: be on time, then that means that you have to

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Speaker 7: be able to get them to pump the brakes back

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Speaker 7: up a little bit, respect what you can do downfield

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Speaker 7: and to your point of code, like you talked about

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Speaker 7: the deep balls, Yeah they happened, but that they have purpose, Nope,

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Speaker 7: where they set up what was going on there, and

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Speaker 7: so it's right now they just need to help each

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Speaker 7: other because the play calling is very much so working,

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Speaker 7: the intermediate game working, but they're not touching the middle

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Speaker 7: of the field, and that's a problem because that's how

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Speaker 7: people are beating you, is attacking the middle of the field.

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Speaker 7: And so for me, it's the lack of verticalness and

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Speaker 7: you know, being able to push the ball downfield in

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Speaker 7: any capacity consistently.

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Speaker 2: Dbs.

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Speaker 8: These secondaries they don't care.

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Speaker 7: They are literally sitting on everything. They are literally begging

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Speaker 7: you to keep passing underneath because that's gonna make you.

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Speaker 7: They're they're betting on the fact, you're gonna make a

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Speaker 7: mistake because even though the Cowboys are good at can

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Speaker 7: you know they have been good hear me, they have

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Speaker 7: been good at goodst other defenses, but not the best

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Speaker 7: and moving the moving the ball down the field and

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Speaker 7: being methodical. They're gonna keep playing you tight like this,

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Speaker 7: And so for me, it's opening up the play good

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Speaker 7: playbook from the receiving aspect, causing some conflict. Make playing

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Speaker 7: guys open, scheming guys open, because you're it's gonna be

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Speaker 7: days like this, man, this is what happens when you

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Speaker 7: play against some of the best and then also too. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it just there needs to be some cohesiveness on that

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Speaker 7: side of the ball to play together and do things

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Speaker 7: that are that are helpful for everyone that's involved in it.

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Speaker 7: Because it was bad and your quarterback got to be

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Speaker 7: better too. He's gonna have to make some he's he

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Speaker 7: I need him to make some business decisions at the

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Speaker 7: line of scrimmage when he sees that this is not favorable.

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Speaker 7: And I just so so for me. I'm sorry, I

495
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Speaker 7: don't mean to fuss, but it was this just to me,

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Speaker 7: this is this offense is not being run in a

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Speaker 7: way that is gonna it's gonna keep happen. This is

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Speaker 7: gonna keep happening, and so they break that and get

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Speaker 7: respect from other defenses from that standpoint.

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Speaker 8: My bad, y'all, I am not trying to hard.

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Speaker 2: Hard time on task is really gonna help, particularly with

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Speaker 2: the line. Uh you know, finally that helps. You know,

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Speaker 2: if Tyler has to miss some practice time this week

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Speaker 2: because of the ankle, that's not gonna help. But the

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Speaker 2: good news is, and we should mention that. Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: said that they're changing the process of evaluation this week,

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Speaker 2: and part of it is because remember there was a

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Speaker 2: Monday night game next week, so beneficial in a couple

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Speaker 2: of ways. We got a lot of guys banged up,

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Speaker 2: and so it's an extra day for them to recover

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Speaker 2: and hopefully be able to play next Monday, followed by

512
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Speaker 2: the bye week, so time to get healthy.

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Speaker 8: It's a good time.

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Speaker 2: That's a good time. But the other thing is, we

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Speaker 2: talk about the twenty four hour rule, right, twenty four

516
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Speaker 2: hours to celebrate or to put a bad loss behind you.

517
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Speaker 2: So Mondays is spent evaluating what happened the day before,

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Speaker 2: good or bad. This week, they're extending that by about

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours, so players have Tuesday off. On Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: which normally is working ahead to the upcoming game that's

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Speaker 2: going to be spent on corrections from the San Francisco game,

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Speaker 2: So a different pattern this week.

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Speaker 6: I think that it should help if you're extending that

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Speaker 6: evaluation process, but you have to make you the right

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Speaker 6: use of it, you know what I'm saying. Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 6: was saying that, you know, we got to ask the

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Speaker 6: right questions to figure out how to move forward. Well,

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Speaker 6: you got to ask the questions that you know might

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Speaker 6: hurt my you know, because you got to keep it

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Speaker 6: real in these situations. And so, yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 6: of ball left, but I feel like you got to

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Speaker 6: make use of this time and the right way rather

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Speaker 6: than just say, Okay, yeah we're gonna sit down and

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Speaker 6: evaluate and take until Wednesday extra two days to evaluate

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Speaker 6: the process. But you got to write, ask the right

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Speaker 6: questions and fix these issues now before it gets down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he did, And he did mention taking the

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Speaker 2: emotion out of it because they're still stinging. Guys. I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you that was about a somber a locker room,

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Speaker 2: and certainly one of the more somber charter flight tome

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Speaker 2: that we've had in a while. I thought I'd thought

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Speaker 2: coming home from Phoenix was pretty somber. Of course, it

543
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Speaker 2: was an overnight flight, most people are sleeping anyway, but

544
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Speaker 2: it was going to be quiet that that was not

545
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Speaker 2: a not a fun not a fun back end of

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Speaker 2: the road trip.

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Speaker 5: Well, I want to bring up a point here because

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Speaker 5: going into this game, a lot of the questions to

549
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Speaker 5: the guys were does this feel like a playoff game?

550
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Speaker 5: And on this end of things, they said, yeah, it

551
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Speaker 5: feels like we're getting ready for a playoff game. A

552
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Speaker 5: lot of guys just had a lot to prove, not

553
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Speaker 5: just to the world but to themselves for this game,

554
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Speaker 5: and I think internally, you put a lot of pressure

555
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Speaker 5: on yourself and either it's a make or break, And

556
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Speaker 5: obviously you saw what come out came out of it

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Speaker 5: during the game. After the game, Kyle Shanahan was talking

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Speaker 5: and he was talking about kind of how the forty

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Speaker 5: nine ers prepared for the week, and he said, quote,

560
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Speaker 5: just watching them Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, they were all

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Speaker 5: so locked in all week.

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Speaker 4: They didn't make too big of a deal of this game.

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Speaker 4: They seemed ready to go.

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Speaker 5: So from a coaching perspective, we didn't feel like we

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Speaker 5: had to do much all week but just coach them,

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Speaker 5: show them the film, put the game plan in.

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Speaker 4: And our guys were ready.

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Speaker 5: So it kind of just feels like on this side

569
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Speaker 5: of the ball for the Cowboys, maybe they got in

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Speaker 5: their heads a little bit. I mean, really, when it's

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Speaker 5: hard not to when you're media hyping this, Oh, this

572
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Speaker 5: is your dragon dislay, this is the game, this is

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Speaker 5: the playoffs in October. How do you not how do

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Speaker 5: you not get in your head about that and then

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Speaker 5: get down on yourself a little bit more than you

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Speaker 5: usually would if your things aren't going your way and

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Speaker 5: your pla, your plan's not working against them. I mean

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Speaker 5: it's it's one of those things where I think time

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Speaker 5: is going to tell how they come back from this adversity.

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Speaker 5: I don't think this necessarily defines them as a team.

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Speaker 5: You're still in week like, let's let's be real with

582
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Speaker 5: that too. It's barely week five. There's a lot of

583
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Speaker 5: season left to go. But I thought that was a

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Speaker 5: little interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't let this one loss turn into two.

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Speaker 4: Yep, you can't.

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Speaker 2: Emotionally, and again, you know that the injuries that came

588
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Speaker 2: out of this. I'm more concerned about the injuries and

589
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Speaker 2: how you're gonna fortify the depth that those positions, particularly

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Speaker 2: line back up.

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Speaker 9: You know, Oh my goodness, that's a good conversation because

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Speaker 9: we're going to do that.

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Speaker 2: And the conversation that is happening right now is Mike

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Speaker 2: McCarthy with Will McLay. Mike told us that as soon

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Speaker 2: as the press conference was over, he's gonna going over

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Speaker 2: to personnel and they're gonna meet.

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Speaker 8: You're about to talk about the defense.

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Speaker 5: Yep, we're going to talk about the defense here in

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Speaker 5: our in our next segment, stick with us. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: about the defense. Dan Quinn is actually talking right now,

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Speaker 5: so we're gonna get into a little bit of what

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Speaker 5: mitchadded tweeting out that according to dan Quinn, he said,

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Speaker 5: if a Layton vander USh is out for an extended

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Speaker 5: period of time, Michaeh Parsons could see more time at linebacker, which.

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Speaker 4: Just makes sense.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's kind of what we all figured.

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Speaker 5: So let's get into that. Christiana, you brought up your

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Speaker 5: concerned about the ripple effect these injuries from this game have,

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Speaker 5: and Leyton vander USh is a big loss on the

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Speaker 5: defense if he's not able to play for an extended

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Speaker 5: period of time, which it sounds like that will be

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Speaker 5: the case with that neck injury.

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Speaker 4: Let's start there and then we'll huntangle our very weaved mess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just his production, it's his communication skills,

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Speaker 2: right as the guy who relays the plays from dan

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Speaker 2: Quinn to his teammates in the huddle and help him.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you guys get lined up now. Of course,

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Speaker 2: he missed the three games last year with the next thing,

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Speaker 2: and guys like jay Ron Curse and Malik Hooker donno,

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Speaker 2: guys like that can can step up and fill a

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Speaker 2: good part of that void. But man, you know, Malik

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Speaker 2: Jefferson was elevated from the practice squad over the weekend

657
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Speaker 2: and ended up finishing the fourth quarter and had been

658
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: playing special teams. So he has had two of his

659
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: three practice squad elevations. So unless they bring in someone

660
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: from outside, make a trade or something, I would think

661
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: that you would take Malik and put him on the

662
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster is something that is immediate this week, I.

663
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 7: Would be looking to make a move.

664
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 8: To make a move.

665
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to make to hold.

666
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 8: This defense together for what it is right now.

667
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would definitely be looking to make a move

668
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 7: there at linebacker.

669
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: And the thing about Micah, you know, the position not

670
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: the same as what Layton does, right. And then Marquis

671
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: spell who has been a defensive back but gets moved

672
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: to linebacker this year, and I think they nothing against him,

673
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: but I think they exploited some of his inexperience yesterday.

674
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: That's not slight. They exploited a lot of people yesterday experience.

675
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: Or not a lot of people exactly. But that's Look,

676
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: here's the thing. That's what the forty nine ers do. Yes,

677
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: that's what they do.

678
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 5: That's why are they They are the best, if not

679
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: one of the best teams in the league right now.

680
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 5: That's why they are where they are because they're able

681
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: to expose your playmakers.

682
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 6: If this happened, if we do lose Layton, let's say

683
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 6: that happens, which is looking like we are. Damon Clark,

684
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 6: he's not even on that roster. He's on the roster,

685
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 6: But I'm saying he didn't play, you know what I'm saying,

686
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 6: So what does that do for d'mon a guy like

687
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 6: Damone and what should how should he step up in

688
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 6: that situation?

689
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he got snaps. So he he had been

690
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: battling his shoulder injury. And so the good news was

691
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: he was able to get past that. And so and man,

692
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: I think he's had a very good year. He had

693
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: an outstanding camp. And so again he plays next to Layton,

694
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: you know, So it's not it's basically what Micah had

695
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: done previously before going down to concentrate on defensive end.

696
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 5: What I think is interesting though about Dimoon is him

697
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: and Leyton have a very close relationship. They've worked together

698
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: from their injury history and they've formed this really close

699
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 5: bond together. Demones told me about how Layton would go

700
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 5: in with him in the rehab groups and every rehab

701
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: session that he had, Leyton would just go sit in

702
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: there with him when he was working back from his injury,

703
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 5: and so him and Layton have a really good communication.

704
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 5: He talked about this big brother esque type of relationship

705
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 5: that they had and I mentioned this on the podcast before,

706
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 5: but that Leyton would say, well, Sean Lee did it

707
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: for me, and so I'm doing it for you now

708
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 5: because that's just what you do around here.

709
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: And so I thought that.

710
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 5: Was a really cool analogy when he mentioned that. But

711
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 5: I almost wonder, you know, because Mike McCarthy, they're still

712
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: in the process of figuring out what happens where these

713
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 5: kind of take the team from here, what's going on,

714
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 5: And he was asked about, well, who would be the

715
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 5: communicator on the defensive side of the ball if Layton's

716
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 5: out and he doesn't know yet.

717
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: He said, we're figuring things out.

718
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: Well, it would be Jayron or Malik. It's possible that

719
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: Dumoon could do it. The leak's gonna start. So what

720
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: happens is there are three players that are designated with

721
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: radio helmets green that we call them green dots, and

722
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: so three defensive players. So it's Leyton Vandersch, Jyron Curse

723
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: and Malik Cooker. That's how it's been all year. Only

724
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: one of them can wear it on the field at

725
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: a time. So when Layton's out there, Malik and jay

726
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: Ron are wearing their non green dot helmets since only

727
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: one is allowed on the field. And so again, jay

728
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: Ron and Malik in the past have have worn that

729
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: and been able to communicate. But still that's from a

730
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: safety position and not right in the middle of the

731
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: defense at linebacker.

732
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 5: If you're going with this, next man up. As far

733
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 5: as youth mentality that you've seen throughout the team from

734
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 5: the course of last five weeks, act like it's been forever,

735
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 5: but it feels like it.

736
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: These five weeks have been long.

737
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 5: Do you see DeMont Clark being a guy that could

738
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 5: have possibly sure?

739
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, possibly, yeah, absolutely.

740
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 5: And shit how do you feel now with this linebacker

741
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 5: core being as stiff as it is where it's at,

742
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 5: the ripple effect and some other aspects that you noticed

743
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 5: from watching the game back that need to be short

744
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 5: up this week.

745
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 7: I don't know if there's something that could be short up,

746
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 7: but I was surprised that the lack of pressure that

747
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 7: the Cowboys defensive line was able to get. I mean,

748
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 7: there are plenty of times that party took like deep drops,

749
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 7: like seven step drops, and I'm like what, like and.

750
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 8: Like, how are they just doing this?

751
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: That was an.

752
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 7: Element of the game that surprised me a lot. I

753
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 7: expected for the Cowboys to exploit that right side of

754
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 7: that offensive line that is statistically and even watching film

755
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 7: had a hard time, and they just played them very

756
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 7: stout for the most part, and that surprised me. That

757
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 7: surprised me a lot. And then obviously it's a trickle

758
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 7: down effect because that he's your linebackers out there naked,

759
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 7: and it's just you got then at this and then

760
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 7: you see I saw a couple of times Malie Cooker

761
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 7: being the last person to make the tackle, So the

762
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 7: linebackers being short up.

763
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 8: And us figuring out what's going on there.

764
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 7: It's gonna be important moving forward because teams are attacking

765
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 7: you at the edges more than anything at this point,

766
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 7: and so you need linebackers that can move sideline the

767
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 7: sideline and make tackles and not put so much pressure

768
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 7: on your corners to have or safeties to have to

769
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 7: do that. That is what the linebacker is for. We

770
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 7: saw that yesterday from Fred Warner.

771
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 8: In Green Law.

772
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 7: We're too good, brother, They're too good. But I will

773
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 7: say I will say there were times like listen, we

774
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 7: one positive.

775
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 8: Tyler Smith is a bawler.

776
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 7: Tyler Smith he matched their intensity when he saw that,

777
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 7: when he saw opportunities, and I was like, okay, okay,

778
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 7: I see you, Tyler, Like that is one of my

779
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 7: only pass.

780
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: The league saw him too at the end with that penalty,

781
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: and he's gonna get a little fun this week predicting. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

782
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: maybe we'll have him put it in here.

783
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 10: No.

784
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: Actually, when when players just f y I kind of

785
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: a well, not a fun fact, because if you're the

786
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: one the fine, it's not fun at all. But when play,

787
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: when players are fined by the league for things like

788
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: tawning or personal fouls or things like that, or even

789
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: for uniform infractions. When a player pays a fine to

790
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: the league, it goes to NFL charities, which are over

791
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: the past several years been mainly to former players funds.

792
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: And so anyway, it can, it can it pushed it up,

793
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: it can act.

794
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 7: He pushed him at the club, put him at the club.

795
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: Well, either at the very end, Tyler Smith got the

796
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: penalty at the end, late in the fourth quarter for

797
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: the personal foul, So right, didn't he at the end?

798
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was at that point I was emostly.

799
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was going after one of the Well

800
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: else I didn't think he punted. I didn't think that

801
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: he was first. I thought that it was. But anyway,

802
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: but he's the one that got the flat and so yeah,

803
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: he's he's going to probably get the fine.

804
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, well, self inflicted wounds.

805
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: To your own pocketbook.

806
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: There we go.

807
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 5: Hey, okay, I like this little trend you started. We

808
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 5: have a couple of minutes left. Let's get some positives.

809
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 5: Let's try here, guys. And that sounds mean, but I

810
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 5: know of one that I Ushua would love to talk about.

811
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: That was Jonathan Hankins and Big Hank and those swatted balls.

812
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 5: Thank God for those big hands really like that set

813
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 5: the tone early and that's why that got the defense

814
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 5: back in the fight because there was a swatted ball

815
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 5: let's see by Hank too by Hank, and then there

816
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: were who else was it?

817
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: Well, here here's the problem. Your defensive tackle led the

818
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: defense and passes defensed yesterday.

819
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: There you go.

820
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 7: I don't even Christy that one, Christy.

821
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: Positive way, it's a positive for Jonathan. No, that was

822
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: that those were important at the beginning of the game.

823
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Uh, you're not always gonna gonna get

824
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: to the quarterback. So as soon as they you know,

825
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: stop you short and you see them start to, uh

826
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: release the ball, what's the number one thing you gotta do,

827
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: get your hands up and so good for Jonathan with

828
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: those two passes batted?

829
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 8: What's yours, Nicole? What's yours?

830
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 7: I ain't said mine yet, technically, just just said nik is.

831
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 8: Fully, honestly, I'll let you take that one.

832
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 4: I have another one.

833
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 8: Honestly.

834
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 6: My only positive is that kat touchdown his second offensive touchdown.

835
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 8: Of the season.

836
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 6: I mean, nothing really positive came from that game other

837
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 6: than Jonathan Haggins Kate Tea.

838
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 4: That was a rough one.

839
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 8: Okay, well, yeah, that's expected.

840
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 6: That's that's that's always expected, that that's should be. That's

841
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 6: honestly it for me. I mean it was such a

842
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 6: disappointing lot.

843
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 4: Sorry, and I'm like, wow, yeah, I mean.

844
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: It looks worse watching it a second time than it

845
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: was from the sideline last night. It's like it was

846
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 2: rough to watch.

847
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 6: It was very much rough to watch for a team

848
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 6: of this caliber that has so many, you know, good

849
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 6: pieces that that can succeed help his team succeed. So yeah,

850
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 6: that's that's my that's my positive man, Christy.

851
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say Turpin's touchdown just outside show

852
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: it was a good throw and great adjustment. That's hard

853
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: because usually you're looking over that and going down the

854
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: right sideline, he's looking on the outside. That was a

855
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: really really well done And the thing is, you know,

856
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: after Turpin went out, you know, you lose your return specialist,

857
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: So Rico doubt will we should kickoff returner and then

858
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: douce Vaughan on the punt return. So I imagine it

859
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: would be that moving forward. But what was disappointing was

860
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: that the Cowboys on special teams weren't able to take

861
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: advantage of something that we don't see a lot in

862
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: the NFL anymore because they keep changing the rules and

863
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 2: that's to make it harder to get more kickoff returns, right.

864
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: And so the Cowboys knew Jake Moody, the rookie kicker,

865
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: the third round pick for the forty nine ers, he

866
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: hasn't missed on any field goals, but he doesn't have

867
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: a booming leg on kickoff, so they knew that they

868
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: would have a chance for kickoffs in this kickoff returns

869
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: in this game. Also, kicking towards the north end of

870
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: the field, there was a pretty heavy breeze coming in,

871
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: so the ball was really getting knocked down by the

872
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: wind and so it was landing you know, nine twelve

873
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: yard line, that kind of thing. But the Cowboys weren't

874
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: able to you know, get any big returns and help

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Speaker 2: in that field position battle.

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Speaker 7: I'd say, yeah, so of set, so I said, I'd

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Speaker 7: say that my loan positive is that it is indeed

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Speaker 7: week five. Yeah, and there is a lot of football left.

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Speaker 7: It's either we don't suffer or it's gonna be good.

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Speaker 7: And so for me, I have to remind myself. I

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Speaker 7: even tweeted it like it's just week five because it

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Speaker 7: feels like it feels bigger like it feels big.

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Speaker 8: But my only.

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Speaker 7: Positive is that it is week five and that they

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Speaker 7: can they can regroup and they can figure things out.

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Speaker 7: Know Micha McCarthy talked about them Kumbaya and and whatnot.

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Speaker 7: So uh, I hope that they they they figure out

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Speaker 7: what it is the things that they need to fix

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Speaker 7: and how they gotta come together because babe, we got

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Speaker 7: three money. Well it's it's my badlitary is this.

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, they got time to, you know, huddle

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Speaker 7: together and figure things out.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, we got.

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Speaker 7: Three more months of on the job, on duty, so

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Speaker 7: let's figure it out.

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Speaker 5: Well, my positive is that it's over and you can

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Speaker 5: turn the page starting tomorrow and we we will get

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Speaker 5: into this discussion a little bit more tomorrow and then

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Speaker 5: we'll start turning the page as we goes on. Because

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Speaker 5: of course, the Dallas Cowboys will face the Chargers on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to see Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 4: It gonna be a fun one.

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Speaker 5: So look, I have a great quarterback and we know this,

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Speaker 5: but brought party.

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Speaker 2: Wow, he was he was yesterday.

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Speaker 4: You played a pretty well if you ask me.

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Speaker 2: My gosh, we almost got through this. It takes You're ready, Jazzy,

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Speaker 2: here we go.

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Speaker 8: It does. It takes skilled girl.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's end on that note.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, tomorrow, when we come back, we're going

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Speaker 5: to discuss this a little bit more in detail.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 5: We didn't even get into special teams today, so we'll

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Speaker 5: get into that tomorrow. The impacts of possibly not having CJ.

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Speaker 5: Goodwin for an extended period of time, We'll ask around,

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Speaker 5: see what we find out. In the meantime, a little

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Speaker 5: bit more about these injuries, see what we can get you.

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Speaker 5: But in the meantime, try to enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 5: your day.

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Speaker 4: Cowboys Nation, we appreciate you, we love you. Stay safe

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Speaker 4: and we will see you back here tomorrow. For Christy

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