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Speaker 1: So this will be a fun one.

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Speaker 2: We've got Liz Wheeler, the host of the Liz Wheeler

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Speaker 2: Show on my show. Liz's a friend, she's smart on everything.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to get her take on this most

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Speaker 1: Nineteen people have been charged in this.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get her take on, you know, does

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Speaker 2: I want to get her take on that. But most importantly,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about her new book, Hydrid Children.

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Speaker 2: It talks about these attacks that we're staying on children

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Speaker 2: from the left. She identifies those groups, identifies the attacks,

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Speaker 2: her about her new book that is out in September,

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Speaker 2: but you can get it on pre order called Hide

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Speaker 2: Your Children. Here's Liz Wheeler, host of the Liz Wheeler Show.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: Well, Liz, It's great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: You've got a new book out which I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to getting into. So appreciate you making the time.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: We're in obviously a pretty crazy time as a country.

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Speaker 2: I think is putting it lately. Trump's now indicted again

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Speaker 3: Listen, I think that this increases his chances. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think I had a similar reaction to a lot

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Speaker 3: I mean, you almost can't make this stuff up, except

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Speaker 2: So I agree with everything you just said, except for

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Speaker 3: This campaigning that he's not doing this summer is exactly

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about politicians have to be unafraid to say

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Speaker 2: To a lot of these people, when I push back

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Speaker 2: the Life of children. Your new book is called Highrid Children,

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Speaker 2: And that's really you know why the left goes after

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Speaker 2: Liz, I think what they've really hurts my heart with

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Speaker 3: So this book is also a labor of love because

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Speaker 2: Very well said and such an important book, really pivotal

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's that they're not worth fighting for.

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Speaker 3: They certainly are, but that might be best left for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we think things are crazy now, and

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Speaker 2: so the book is out in September. Hydrid Children, Liz,

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Speaker 2: You're awesome. Anything else you want to leave us with.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I appreciate it so much. You can find the

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Speaker 3: book at Hide your childrenbook dot com. That's hideo childrenbook

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Speaker 3: I'm particularly proud of the second half of the book.

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Speaker 3: It is it's kind of a critique of the Republican

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Speaker 3: So I'm very excited, slightly feel slight bit of trepidation

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Speaker 3: We do need to use the power of government to

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Speaker 3: Once you read that second half of the book. You

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Speaker 3: get your copy today.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to have you come back on after

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Speaker 2: the book is out and then we can we can

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Speaker 2: reassess it and talk about the reaction.

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Speaker 1: But it's an important book.

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Speaker 2: I have no doubt that it's going to be amazing,

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Speaker 2: and I know it's going to be a huge success.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time, your friend, and proud

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Speaker 2: of you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Lise, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: That was Liz Wheeler, host of The Liz Wheeler Show,

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Speaker 2: author of the new book Hydried Children. A really interesting conversation.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad she wrote this book. It sounds like it

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Speaker 2: is very much needed. Proud of her, appreciate her taking

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Speaker 2: the time. I want to thank you guys at home

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Speaker 2: for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen

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Speaker 2: throughout the week. Want to think John Cassio and my

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Speaker 2: producer for putting the show together as always.

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Speaker 1: Until next time,