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Speaker 1: John Middlecoffe to renow podcast. Hopefully everyone's doing well. I

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Speaker 1: thought we'd do a little rapid fire, some NFL stories,

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Speaker 1: Belichick raiders, Shanahan fires, DC Mike McDaniel says fines do

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Speaker 1: not work for keeping people late to meetings. Some quick

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Speaker 1: little college football. He's got a big Notre Dame game, though,

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Speaker 1: we got a playoff game Thursday, got a playoff game Friday.

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night, Monday night.

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Speaker 1: A lot of football coming up, so buckle up. But

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Speaker 1: just want to say anyone, obviously you're directly impacted by

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Speaker 1: I know we have a big presence, you know, listenership

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Speaker 1: takeaway was, Yeah, the first one was pretty entertaining. Now

428
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: I would say I'm on the high end of golf consumers, Like, ultimately,

429
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: I didn't care who won. Ultimately, after like thirty minutes,

430
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's just kind of the same thing

431
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: over and over. I don't necessarily and I'm not trying

432
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: to be a hater, I don't necessarily know it's going

433
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: to be sustainable. I haven't seen any of the television

434
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: ratings today. I think my main takeaway and anyone watching

435
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: it that plays golf would go, I would love to

436
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: hit balls there. That's all I kept thinking. I would

437
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: love to hit balls there. And clearly the screen, which

438
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: most projection screens where people that have like home theaters

439
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: or the golf simulator, This screen, for those who didn't see,

440
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: is twenty four soot times the size of a standard

441
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: projection screen. It is huge, and on TV when they

442
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: play a whole, that's the coolest part to me is

443
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: when they're hitting either the drives or the fairway shots,

444
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, the chipping they actually chip and put on

445
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: this green that they can simulate and make, you know,

446
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: basically change the elevations and the contour of the green,

447
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: which is cool, but they just putting and chipping on

448
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: the same thing, just over and over and over. I

449
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know. I would probably bet against it's staying power.

450
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: Now Tiger is a big deal and he's playing I

451
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: think next Tuesday, or maybe it's next Monday, after the

452
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: Monday night football game. I would guess a decent amount

453
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: of people just stay on the football game and watch

454
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: Tiger hit some balls, but you remove him for the

455
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: casual sports fan. I don't know. The one thing I

456
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: would say that I think they're onto something the youth

457
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: really likes. Anyone with younger children knows that. People it's

458
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: very popular to watch others video games, which is something

459
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: that didn't exist in my generation. You just played video games. Now.

460
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, we didn't have YouTube or whatever.

461
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: But it's obviously very very popular right now. To Twitch

462
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: is massive to watch others play video games. And there's

463
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: an element of this that I would say parallels that

464
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: a little bit with the video element that there's a

465
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: it feels a little video gamey, which I think can

466
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: be a positive. Now they can still tweak things and

467
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: kind of add things. I think there's only so much

468
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: you can do, and unless Tiger's playing every single week,

469
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: separated from this initial pop it'll be interesting how much

470
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: longevity this thing has, though, Like golf's a niche sport

471
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: and to get put on ESPN in a prime time

472
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: spot is pretty valuable. And I think a lot of

473
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: ram them people that the popularity of just a civilian's

474
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: playing golf has really really grown over the last three

475
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: or four years. More people just go to the driving range,

476
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: more people play at local muni's than ever before, So

477
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: maybe you are more inclined to watch that. It's just

478
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: kind of fun. It's light, it's loose, everyone's smiling. Hard

479
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: to tell because they're not actually wearing uniforms, they're just

480
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: wearing similar colors but with their own sponsors. So we

481
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: got some strides to make there. But I would say overall,

482
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: there's no disputing that. I would say it was pretty successful.

483
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: And I think there are definitely way more cool elements

484
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: to this than a bunch of negative stuff surrounding it.

485
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: I think, if you're just being realistic, you go, is

486
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: this thing going to be around for years? The actual

487
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: building that they built one hundred percent will and that

488
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: has I mean they could charge I mean I don't

489
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: even know how much an hour for just someone to

490
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: hit balls in the middle of the day when the

491
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: thing is empty. They could charge a ton to these

492
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: sponsors to host events there. So the actual venue has value.

493
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: The actual league of all these guys hitting into a screen,

494
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: hitting out of actual sand onto a turf green, how

495
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: much staying power that has. I think you could flip

496
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: a coin if you told me this thing last two years,

497
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: believe it. If you told me this thing last five years,

498
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: I'd probably be a little I would say it probably

499
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: has a little shorter shelf life. Then it's just gonna

500
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: be some booming business. Though. I'm rooting for it to succeed,

501
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: because the more I would say, hip and younger generation

502
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: and just make golf a little more mainstream that you

503
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: can get, the better. So props to Tiger and Rory

504
00:28:45,840 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: for taking a big swing here. Okay, it's finally here.

505
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: It crossed my mind within the last couple of days

506
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: that typically the semi finals would have already been played

507
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: and we would be coming down the home stretch of

508
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: playing the National Championship on a Monday, which has been

509
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: thrown for a loop a little bit because the NFL

510
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: has expanded their playoffs and now they have a Monday

511
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: night football game on wild Card weekend. So I'm still

512
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: trying to get used to the ebb and flow of everything.

513
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: But I had to get my guy Jackson on the

514
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: horn because as recording this, we're a little over twenty

515
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: four hours away from his Notre Dame Irish and I'm

516
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: not gonna lie Jackson. I'm tempted to place a very

517
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: very large wager on Penn State because I don't understand, obviously,

518
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: college is different than the NFL that they can be

519
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: very secretive about Abdual Carter's injury and we can just

520
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: just as we record this day, he doesn't play, but

521
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's missing a star defensive lineman. And I just

522
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: think the quarterback. You know, all these Bowl games, once

523
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: you get away from that first round where they play

524
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: at home, are in controlled neutral environment. The better passing

525
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: quarterback in the better passing explosive attack is at Penn State.

526
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: Like you could argue that these teams are the same, Okay,

527
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: I'd get the slide into Penn State. I can't. I

528
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: don't quite understand how they're favorite. I mean, you feel

529
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: that your squad is better than my bald brother James Franklin,

530
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: the Penn State Nitney Lions. I do.

531
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: I do because I think it's not a lot of

532
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: flashy names. Right when you go from Notre Dame's perspective,

533
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: all those guys you mentioned in the D line will

534
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: probably go third, fourth round, not real flashy linebackers Xavier

535
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Watts and the safeties. The secondary they have I think

536
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: is one of the best and most underrated in the country.

537
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: But to your point about Abdua Carter, I think it's

538
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: a big deal if he doesn't play, because you saw

539
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: at some points that Boise State was able to stretch

540
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: out in the outside and get some of those first downs,

541
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 3: and I think with Riley Lennon that's what he likes

542
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: to do. And I was kind of shocked Riley Leonard

543
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: was able to speed past some of those Georgia defenders,

544
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: and I feel like Abdul Carter is one of those

545
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: guys where I don't know, you think he runs at

546
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: four four four five when it comes to the combine,

547
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: that he could catch.

548
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: Up to Riley.

549
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: So I think it's a big deal. I do think

550
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: they match up pretty well. I just the only thing

551
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: I worry about Penn State's passing attack is if al

552
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: Golden figures out a way and there They've been prone

553
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: to be bad against tight ends recently, even with Georgia too.

554
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: Outside of some miscommunication, they could have had a touchdown

555
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: late in that fourth and two. I do worry about

556
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren. I don't know if he's gonna go Xavier

557
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: Watts just straight up one on one and are they

558
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: gonna double bracket him because outside of that, they don't

559
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: have a whole lot of receivers. So I know Drew

560
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: Auer's got a big arm, you know, talented quarterback, could

561
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 3: go number one. But if you can walk down Warren,

562
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: excluding that, they you know, get Allen and Singleton involved

563
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: in the passing game. Two, I don't know if the

564
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: receivers for Penn Steak can hold up against you know,

565
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: notre name secondary.

566
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know, I probably got a lot

567
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: of people listening that definitely that know these rosters well,

568
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: but probably a lot that don't. I mean, Abdul Carter

569
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: and for those that might have turned in really for

570
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: the first time to lock in on Penn State would

571
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: have been that game against Boise and he got hurt

572
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: really early on though, he did have that one pass

573
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: rush where he kind of dropped the hoop. He's I mean,

574
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: he's he's Michael Parsons, you know. I mean, that's that

575
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: type player, versatility pass rush. But he you've seen him

576
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: if you watch him during the season. If he's off

577
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and they run like a quick screen,

578
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: he can run outside, like laterally down the side. I mean,

579
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: he's a freak. And uh, you know, I I think

580
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: if this was an NFL game, you know, Al Golden

581
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: obviously is a famous name because he's coached at Miami

582
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: and Coddle Necky. Is that how you say, the the

583
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: offensive NECKI yeah, yeah, I mean he came from Kansas

584
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: first year. Yeah, he's He's definitely one of I would

585
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: say in college footballracles, one of the star coordinators are

586
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: viewed as, you know, just a guy that feels inevitable

587
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: to be be a head coach in a Power four program.

588
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: I would say in the next obviously not this cycle,

589
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: but probably the next cycle, especially if Aler were to return,

590
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: which I still think is I was thinking about that today.

591
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they're probably a win away if he throws

592
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: two or three touchdowns and beats Notre Dame. If you

593
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: get to the national championship, I think he would solidify

594
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: himself as a top ten, top fifteen pick. So it

595
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: would just be like, does he want to just play

596
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: and hang out in college like Liner again, or does

597
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: he want to, you know, take his talents. But the

598
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: coordinator matchup of Golden and Kytle Mecky is that's just

599
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: that's that's freaking awesome. I mean, if this it'd be

600
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: like Flores against Kyle Shanahan, right, or Aaron Glenn against

601
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: Kevin o'conne, like it's it's a bright lights college football

602
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: name like we've seen forever with the Sabans and the

603
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: Kirby's when they take on big time offensive coordinators. Uh.

604
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: But I I I'm really really excited to watch that.

605
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, this is

606
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: this isn't an old school. I mean, these these programs well,

607
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, shit, you're so young. But even before my

608
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: kind of got into sports in the mid nineties, I

609
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: think in like the eighties and the heyday of Lou

610
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: Holtz and Joe Paterno, this was one of the biggest

611
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: rivalries in college sports any you know, basketball or football.

612
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: But I think this is on the short list of

613
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: like you know, Florida State, Miami and their heydays playing

614
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: each other. Now they were conference foes, but I would

615
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: say Penn State and Notre Dame I think as a

616
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: pretty you know for older people, kind of had like

617
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: an NFL game feel in the in the eighties with

618
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: with lou and Paterno and just the I mean the

619
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: countless NFL players on both teams. I mean, these were

620
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: two of the powerhouse programs, you know, way back in

621
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: the day that they were really kind of like an

622
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: Alabama or Georgia as as football was really taken off

623
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: in like the seventies and eighties, just naturally becoming, you know,

624
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: the equal of of baseball and now what it's become.

625
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: You know, it became a little tougher for them, but

626
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: it's cool to see this. I mean there's a big

627
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: time Bright Lights brand matchup. I mean, all four of

628
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: these teams, it's they would have been if you picked

629
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: eight teams that you would want in the final, four

630
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: of these would have been. I mean, Ohio State Notre

631
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: Dame would have been top two or three picks, but

632
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: I think Penn State wouldn't have been far behind. Texas

633
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: who would have been a top five pick as well.

634
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: What do you think changed for you about your perspective

635
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: on Penn State. Was it that game after Ohio State

636
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: when they lost it the Oregon Big Ten Championship, Like

637
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: what kind of change your perspective? Because you've been on

638
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: saying that this Penn State team could win it all

639
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: for about a month now, and they progressively look good

640
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: and people go out there and say, oh, they've only

641
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Speaker 1: played SMU, they played Boise State, but they've looked, you know,

642
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Speaker 1: like like a national championship type of team. I guess

643
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: this is their biggest you know stage, since they their

644
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: best team they've played. But what's changed your perspective from

645
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Speaker 1: I guess the beginning of the season now about Penn State. Well,

646
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: I think one thing I've learned working in football and

647
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: then doing this and seeing it from a little bit

648
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Speaker 1: like a more of like a twenty thousand foot view,

649
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: is you cannot win big in the pros or you know,

650
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: and I would say this is basically pro's light in

651
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: the final four. Now, the college football player, if you

652
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: don't have a top end defense. So you look at

653
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: all four of these teams, they all got NFL guys

654
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Speaker 1: all over on defense, no different than the NFL. The

655
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs have been winning Super Bowls defense, the Ravens, Conference

656
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: championship defense, the forty nine ers over the years, the

657
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: Rams like, you gotta have a good defense. Then it's like, okay,

658
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: we all got sweet defenses. Well who's your quarterback? And

659
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: I think you usually just leaned to the team with

660
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: the better quarterback. And I think Drew Aller watching that

661
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: USC game, I actually didn't watch it live, so I

662
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: had to go back and watch the highlights of kind

663
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: of that historic comeback, right. I mean that was honestly

664
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Speaker 1: a loss for Lincoln Riley that derailed their season. And

665
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Speaker 1: you watched in these highlights, you know, Warren had I

666
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: think his final numbers were like seventeen of two hundred.

667
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: It was crazy. It was like one of the lines

668
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: of the year. But Aler made some plays in that

669
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Speaker 1: game that were like, man, this was really really impressive.

670
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Speaker 1: And then I think that the conference championship game against

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Speaker 1: Oregon and they you know, they took some early shots

672
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: and they were down, but he he made some big

673
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Speaker 1: time plays in that game, and I just went, I

674
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Speaker 1: just like this quarterback. They have good running backs so

675
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: does Notre Dame. So I would say those two cancel

676
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Speaker 1: it out assuming Love again, like an Abdual Carter. We

677
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: good on that knee injury. That's a little concerning, isn't it.

678
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Speaker 3: Is a little concerning. That was one of my other

679
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Speaker 3: questions I had for you too, was who was at

680
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: a bigger disadvantage Notre Dame without Jeremiah Love or you know,

681
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: Penn State with that Abdua Carter because Jeremiah Love, although

682
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: they've got Jenerium Price, he's kind of that downhill running back.

683
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: He's not that explosive guy like Jeremiah Love. Jeremiah Love

684
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: is kind of that one of a kind type of

685
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Speaker 3: running back. And same with Abduall Carter, like you can

686
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Speaker 3: replace him with somebody, but he's not going to show

687
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Speaker 3: you that same production as two of those guys. Jay

688
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: Love's concerning too because it's not his same ankle. It's

689
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: a knee. So now it's like, oh great, now we're

690
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Speaker 3: gonna do with the knee and an ankle on the

691
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Speaker 3: same leg.

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Speaker 1: See. So that's I would say, both teams very dependent

693
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Speaker 1: on those two guys, but the defense can still function

694
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Speaker 1: without car. It's not as dominant, but they still have

695
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: a ton of other NFL guys. Your guys offense is

696
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: pretty predicated on handing that guy the ball. I mean,

697
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Speaker 1: his his play against Indiana kind of you know, open

698
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: the floodgates, and I mean it's got to be the

699
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: longest play so far from scrimmage in these playoffs. Well

700
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Speaker 1: was it? It was technically ninety eight yards, but he

701
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: got the handoff like three year three yards four? Yeah, yeah,

702
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: he was in Indiana's defense. Is not their problem like

703
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: that they were good on defense. Turns out their quarterback,

704
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: do you see, played the whole season like an a

705
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Speaker 1: c L injury? Pretty crazy, but uh so I would say,

706
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: obviously enormous, somewhat cancel each other out. But given that

707
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Speaker 1: how important he is to your offense and how running

708
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Speaker 1: the ball is such a big deal, uh, it'd be

709
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Speaker 1: pretty concerning, like losing him assuming, like I you tell me,

710
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Speaker 1: they're both that. I believe you. That's a hard part

711
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: about college with these injuries. You never they could both

712
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: easily play and look okay, and they could both just

713
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Speaker 1: be like pregame warm ups and then not able to

714
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Speaker 1: go or do one of those what was the Tennessee's

715
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Speaker 1: running backs? You know, he like kind of started then

716
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Speaker 1: he didn't play. It's just very it's very secretive. So

717
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Speaker 1: I I just lean like the quarterback passing the ball, right,

718
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: if they both come out Drew Aller's first round pick

719
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Speaker 1: and your guy just is not and there's nothing wrong.

720
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still might go third, fourth round. Is

721
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Speaker 1: like some project, you know, compete to be a backup.

722
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Speaker 1: But that's that's a pretty big difference. If one guy's

723
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Speaker 1: slinging the ball like Riley Leonards is not like you

724
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Speaker 1: guys win a lot of games with him throwing like

725
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: Jimmy g Lines right, like eighty yards, one hundred and

726
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: ten yards and Penn State like when they're looking good.

727
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Speaker 1: I mean they're guys slinging at it a little bit.

728
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Speaker 1: And I mean you could argue the best player on

729
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: their team, not Duel. Carter is the tight end, and

730
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Speaker 1: he has gone to a different level as they've gotten

731
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Speaker 1: out of the cold and into these controlled environments, and

732
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Speaker 1: that's what this is gonna be. So listen, it's just

733
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Speaker 1: it's a fantastic I mean, James Franklin's a polarizing guy,

734
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Speaker 1: but there's no disputing he's an elite recruiter and he

735
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Speaker 1: was pre nil, post nil. He's great at it and

736
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Speaker 1: I would say motivated like and one thing I respect

737
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Speaker 1: about him is teams have underachieved, but no one's ever

738
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Speaker 1: called his teams like soft. They just have it like

739
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: one big games, but everyone goes got Penn State's a

740
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: very physical team and he's an offensive guy, right, former

741
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: quarterback makes sense. Notre Dame, your guy is a former

742
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: linebacker that they're really tough and physical, so I think

743
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: they actually, these teams are very, very similar. It's why

744
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: I would probably take the underdog. Whoever you know was

745
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: a one or two point underdog. But I just I've

746
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: liked Penn State and I'm just gonna I'm gonna keep

747
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: rolling in it this game. Whoever wins this game would be

748
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: playing with a lot of house money. I mean, if

749
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: I would have told Notre Dame fans or Penn State fans,

750
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: even if you end up losing by twenty de olhow

751
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: State that you were in the National Championship game and

752
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: any won three playoff games. I mean, you talk about

753
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: it successful. What an incredible year for those two.

754
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: Guys, right, That's what's so cool about the twelve team playoff.

755
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 3: I mean Penn State. There was some stat that they

756
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: would make eight or nine out of the last ten

757
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: or twelve playoffs if it were to be a twelve

758
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: team playoff. And then for Notre Dame, you lose to

759
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: NIU most years ninety nine point nine percent of the

760
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: years you're not making the four team playoff. But does

761
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: in this game to you seem like it's gonna be

762
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: like that Georgia game where both teams just could try

763
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: to control the line of scrimmage, battle the trenches and

764
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: it's only a matter of team or I guess which

765
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: team either you know, botches a punt, blocks a punt, yeah,

766
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: throws interception, fumbles or something like that. It just feels

767
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be the same thing like we saw

768
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Speaker 3: against Georgia. And that's one thing I do give Notre

769
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: Dame a lot of credit is they have capitalized all

770
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: season on turnovers, and you know, Drew Aller at some

771
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 3: times is prone to throw an interception or two or

772
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: maybe even fumble like we saw against Boise State. That's

773
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 3: one thing I kind of lean towards Notre Dame. But again,

774
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 3: Ryley Leonard's been shown that he could do the exact same.

775
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it would have been like twenty twelve.

776
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: It was the SEC championship game, and it was when

777
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Murray was the quarterback of Georgia playing like this

778
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: was the start of like peak Saban dynasty. And I

779
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: remember like every single snap on both sides of the ball,

780
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: guys were just getting crushed and it was like it

781
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: felt like every player on defense for both teams were

782
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: an NFL team. I think this game is gonna be

783
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: an absolute war zone. And it's also like whoever comes out,

784
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: you just pray to God you don't lose a couple bodies,

785
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: because I think from the jump this is gonna be

786
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the one of the hardest hitting

787
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: games of the year. And you know Georgia and Notre

788
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: Dame was like that, right, and this is even gonna

789
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: be amped up because what's on the line. And listen,

790
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: like if James Franklin, your guy would get more credit,

791
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: right because both of them don't get that much credit

792
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: for beating Indiana or SMU or Boise. But the Georgia

793
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: win is an incredible victory, right, you beat Georgia even

794
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: if this is not his greatest team, Like that was

795
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: a big time victory. So if he goes back to

796
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: back Georgia and Penn State like that's that'd be pretty sweet.

797
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: And for James, I mean, this would I don't know,

798
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: the biggest win of his career. And I think the

799
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: players all know this. What's on the line that the

800
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: program's history. I'd be stunned if these two coaches didn't

801
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: kind of tap into some of those eighties highlights like

802
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: Jerome Bettis and you know, some of the dudes from

803
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: Penn State back in the day. I think this thing

804
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: is I'm more fired up for this game than the

805
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: other game.

806
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because this one could go back and forth, whereas

807
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: the other one, more people are leading towards Ohio State.

808
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you this before we, you know,

809
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: head to Ohio State Texas. James Franklin Marcus Freeman had

810
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: a joint press conference this morning while we're recording this

811
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: on Wednesday, and James Franklin said it straight up in

812
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: front of Marcus Freeman that Notre Dame should join a conference.

813
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: What's your take on that right now in a new

814
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 3: landscape of college football, because I know you and Colin

815
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: talked about how Notre Dame's got a big advantage moving forward,

816
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 3: you know with the NIL the academic side of things,

817
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman's a great recruiter. On top of that, from

818
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: Notre Dame side, it's like, you know, we got our

819
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: own TV network. We don't really have to join a conference.

820
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: They beat Georgia, they move on to the SEMIS. Usually

821
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: that fourteen million dollars when you advance gets kind of

822
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Speaker 3: distributed to a whole conference, where Notre Dame got all

823
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: fourteen million dollars, which is pretty sweet. So I don't

824
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Speaker 3: know if that goes straight to the NIL fund or what.

825
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: But what do you make of like Notre Dame if

826
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: they should join a conference or not? Do you think

827
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: they'll be forced to eventually?

828
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Speaker 1: I think it's easy for James Franklin to say, but

829
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Speaker 1: I saw that same graphic. It's like the SEC twenty

830
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Speaker 1: eight million dollars. Well that's all the teams, and then

831
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Speaker 1: it was like Notre Dame fourteen million dollars. And if

832
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Speaker 1: they were to win this game, I don't know what

833
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: the next number is, but it's higher. They keep twenty, yeah,

834
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: thirteen or twenty total, right, and they get an extra

835
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: six million dollars, so they keep all the money for themselves,

836
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: Like they're not in some partnership with twelve fourteen, eighteen

837
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: other partners. They have a one sided television deal that

838
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: is financially incredible. It works right, they rate. So it's like,

839
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: my only issue with them is they did that like

840
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: alliance or deal with the ACC a couple of years ago,

841
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: right where they for a couple of year stretch they

842
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: were playing a bunch of those teams and it felt

843
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: like they were like pseudo in the AC, like they

844
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: were kind of wetting their beak. They've always felt more

845
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: like a Big ten team. But listen, if I was

846
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: their ad their chancellor, or anyone involved in their financials,

847
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: Like why would we join a conference we don't need

848
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: to and we already have automatic games against some good

849
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: teams now, like is it worth it for them? Because

850
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: people like, why don't you play Penn State Michigan? You

851
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: already play USC you know, do rotations with like Florida State, Miami,

852
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State. While it's like then we'll miss the playoffs.

853
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: Why would we even do that? Why don't we just

854
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: keep playing a couple of tough teams and then a

855
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: bunch of randos and go ten and two, eleven and one.

856
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: One thing I think this year is gonna buy them

857
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: that even next year. I haven't looked at their schedule,

858
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: but if they have schedules that parallel this year they

859
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: aren't like, I mean, not great. I think they'll get

860
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. And you know this year

861
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: is like they had to be eleven and one. Well

862
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: part of that is they lost to a NIU. I

863
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: think they have upcoming seasons where they could go ten

864
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: and two, and I think they would have no problem

865
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: giving them somewhere ten to twelve, you know, ten eleven

866
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: or twelve that seeding. So I actually think Notre Dames

867
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: helped themselves out a lot in getting the benefit of

868
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: the doubt moving forward with the coach, because you'd be like, oh,

869
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman's recruiting a bunch of NFL guys. Their team's good,

870
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: they can beat anybody, especially when this game's close. Even

871
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: if they lose. I think I wouldn't join a conference,

872
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: and I think James Franklin probably wants them to join THEIRS.

873
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: It just helps the Big ten's prand right, it's easier

874
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: to recruit. They're Notre Dame in Penn State, are probably

875
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: recruiting a lot of the same players, right.

876
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of Midwest guys. Maybe in the South,

877
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 3: but but not really. They're mostly Midwest. I'm looking at

878
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 3: their schedule right now. In twenty twenty five, they've got

879
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: A and M on their schedule. They got at Arkansas

880
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: Poise State, which is kind of a fun matchup USC.

881
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, other than that, you've got some basic Syracuse,

882
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: NC State, Boston College, Pitt, and Navy. So it's not the.

883
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: Greatest schedule, but that's a that's a real schedule. I mean,

884
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: you say Boston College, Pitt, Navy, like those are legitimate teams,

885
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: Like that is I give them credit for not just

886
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: having NonStop mac teams and not that they don't play

887
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: a MAC team here and there, but like playing Boise,

888
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: even if it's in Notre Dame, Like, that's a real game,

889
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: right playing Uh, I guess they get A and M.

890
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: That was a home and home. They get them at

891
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Yeah, that'll be a big game. Like, that's

892
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: a that's a real game. Playing USC every year is

893
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: no joke, right, I Mean, that's that's a real rivalry.

894
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: They've just happened to suck lately. But I mean, you

895
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: guys even this year like they were shitty, but it

896
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: was still a tough game. Took two pick sixes, right.

897
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that. That was a barn burner for sure.

898
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 3: That USC game would.

899
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: Have lost that game. They wouldn't have got in the

900
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: play they would have been out.

901
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would especially USC finishing up six four, six

902
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: and five. Transitioning to this next game, five Texas eight

903
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 3: Ohio State. Before we get to Ohio State, because everybody

904
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: and their mother is going for Ohio State and deservedly so,

905
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: the hottest team in the country. How can Texas win

906
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: this game? Is there any shot? How in your mind

907
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: do you see Texas pulling this one out?

908
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you got I don't see. It's just a

909
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: bad matchup because the thing their deficiency has been coverage,

910
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: and that's how, you know, kind of once Scataboo hit,

911
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: you get them on one on one coverage. K club

912
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: Nick was hitting guys down the sideline. Well, what's Ohio

913
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: State's best advantage is throwing the ball outside the hash

914
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: or outside the numbers. So I just I don't know.

915
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: You just have to ugly the game and you just

916
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: got to hope that Ohio State wants to run the

917
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: ball like Michigan, but I think that they kind of

918
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: learn from that game and they have not looked to

919
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: run the ball these last couple of games. So, especially

920
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: in a controlled environment, why wouldn't you throw it to

921
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith like once every three plays? You know, I

922
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: just I think you just feed that guy to me.

923
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: The only way you win is like a low scoring,

924
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: ugly game. You just like that game that just happened

925
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: to Texas where they kind of got discombobulated that they

926
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: would lose that game by twenty five points against Ohio

927
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: State if they get off kilter. Now, the crazy part

928
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: is Texas came out that game against ASU and you're like,

929
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: are they gonna win this game? Fifty to nothing? Two

930
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: plays touchdown and then that punt return where they speed

931
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: like they have dudes. So it's like, can their offense?

932
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: I guess you'd also have to say, could is Ohio

933
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: State's offense just gonna do this for four straight games?

934
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: Just basically feel like they're gonna score in every drive

935
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: or they just gonna have a weird half because they

936
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: used to have those in the regular season. You'd watch

937
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: them against Nebraska, like what is going on, but they

938
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: have not looked like the Michigan same thing, but they've

939
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: been like a they've been like the Kansee Chiefs, like

940
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: the Tyreek Hill version the last couple of games. So

941
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: I think you gotta hope they're a little off. Texas

942
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: defense is good, but man, that secondary and specifically the corners, well,

943
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: it's like they got a guy that everyone's saying that's

944
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: nineteen years old. It would be the number one pick

945
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: in the draft who looks like he weighs like two

946
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds and runs a four to four,

947
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 1: and their quarterbacks playing a lot of confidence. It does

948
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: feel like the Raven Steeler games, like how could anyone

949
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: pick the Steelers? Now Texas, if you're using that example,

950
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: is better than the Steelers, but it does feel a

951
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: little bit like.

952
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: Ohio States, Like I.

953
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: Wouldn't bet that game just because it almost feels like

954
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: too easy, but I'd be hard pressed, like I think

955
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: it would be. No coach has more of the four

956
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: has more pressure than Ryan because everyone thinks he should win.

957
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they're the heavy betting favorite on draftkingsone basically

958
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: one to one. And you know, for example, Penn State's

959
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: like six to one. Notre Dame's like almost five to one.

960
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: It would be this would almost I don't want to

961
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: say diminished the last two weeks. But Ryan days Now

962
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: put himself in this situation a lot. I go in

963
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: into the Michigan game. Nobody thought he was gonna lose.

964
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you lose that game, it's almost worse because like, oh,

965
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: they're so good, it's not even fair, that's what everyone thinks.

966
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: How could you not when you're watching them. I don't

967
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, what do you think. I just

968
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: think that I think you'd have to win the game

969
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: like nineteen to fifteen. It'd have to I can't see

970
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: Texas winning like thirty five to thirty two.

971
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: No, and they would have to hold Ohio State to

972
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: a slow start in the first quarter both of their

973
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: games in the playoff. Two hundred and five passing yards

974
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: against Tennessee, two hundred and twelve passing yards, two hundred

975
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: and thirty three yards against Oregon. So that to your

976
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: point about Will Howard, you get him going early, his

977
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: confidence only spikes. You get a mecha Buca and while

978
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: there's just too many weapons, and you flip the side

979
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: with Texas and heading into the season, it was all

980
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: this Texas offense got so many weapons. Now you kind

981
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: of look at them, it's like, we got two backup

982
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: running backs that are inconsistent. The offensive line struggled against

983
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: Georgia twice, who's a really good front seven, And oh yeah,

984
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 3: Ohio State's front seven is getting better. And finally something

985
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: that we've been wanting to see the entire season with

986
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 3: JT and Jack Sawyer. Okay, okay, what kind of weapons

987
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: do we have on the outside of that Isaiah Bond,

988
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: the receiver you got from Bama has been non existent,

989
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: and Golden's been great, But how can you compete against

990
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: Ohio State with that e leade of a defense with

991
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: one wide receiver and a tight I just I think

992
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 3: you're right. I think it's a bad matchup for Texas.

993
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: And it's one of those whole things that they've been

994
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: having during the season where they either come off to

995
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: a hot start in that second third quarter, it's like

996
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 3: they can't run the ball, they can't do anything offensively,

997
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: and then they get it into gear towards the end.

998
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: I feel like, Ohio State, you can't even do that.

999
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: You got to compete drive for drive against them. Order

1000
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: to have a shot.

1001
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know the game I was at

1002
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: and watching Texas live. They now granted it was Quinn,

1003
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: you were's first game back from injury. It was like

1004
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: a tight seven to three game with like almost two

1005
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: minutes left in the first half, and then Oklahoma fumble

1006
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you're watching Texas, You're going, how

1007
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: do they have all this talent? They can't move the ball?

1008
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: And Texas gets in these ruts where the one thing

1009
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: that camp be tonight is when Ohio State just gets

1010
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: it to their guys and just throws it a lot.

1011
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: It works. Texas tries that and sometimes it does not

1012
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: work right. And obviously Jeremiah Smith is better than anyone

1013
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: in Texas has, But yeah, I think running the ball

1014
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: one thing. Chip just you know, when Chip really hit

1015
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: the scene at Oregon, he was a running a run

1016
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: play calling offensive coordinator like he called Now they just

1017
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: hit like fifty sixty eighty yr runs all the time

1018
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: at Oregon, So it felt like they were When you

1019
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: say a really explosive offense, you think like Randy Moss,

1020
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill justin you think wide receivers, but his offense

1021
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: is historically like what he wants to do. Shady McCoy

1022
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: had a great year for him, Like he wants to

1023
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: run his big signing when Philly when he traded Shady

1024
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: was to signed what's his name, the cowboy running back?

1025
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: Uh Demarca Uh, what the fuck is his name? Oh,

1026
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray. Yeah, Like he loves running backs. And that's

1027
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: the thing about Michigan. I think he like, I want

1028
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: to run the ball down your throat. And it just

1029
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: was an all time backfire and I just think that

1030
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: they've they've just embraced we can't even fake it and

1031
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: there's no reason to well, I think if you're Sark,

1032
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: one thing that you you know, Kyle Shanahan has done

1033
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: this one year where they had to go on the

1034
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: road with Jimmy Garoppolo is like you got us when

1035
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: your offense isn't as good as the offensive teams, you're

1036
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: playing slow and ugly the game up, so Texas can't

1037
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: run the ball, Like that's the only way you can win.

1038
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: Run the ball, slow the game down, run the ball,

1039
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: and it's I think it's hard for Sark because he

1040
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: likes to pass the ball, you know, and it's and

1041
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: it doesn't and it might not work, and I think sometimes,

1042
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, the great NFL coaches will stick with the

1043
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: run because eventually I'll get a couple first downs even

1044
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: if I got a pun a couple of times. If

1045
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: we can just play a little defense early on, We're

1046
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: most coaches that are inclined to pass it more than

1047
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 1: run it, we'll just say screw it. This isn't working.

1048
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's been a Kyle Shanahan subtract this year.

1049
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: But like why he's had so much success in the

1050
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: playoffs is like he's very stubborn in a good way

1051
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: and he can slow the game down because you know,

1052
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: you're not Some teams are built for shootouts in Texas

1053
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: against this, I mean, it feels like one of the

1054
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: best in Ohio state has been built like this. Right. Offensively,

1055
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: they have been really really good under Ryan Day passing

1056
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: the ball, and they got the best wide receiver they've had,

1057
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: and they've had great wide receivers. It's crazy. I mean,

1058
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: they had Marvin Harrison who was the fourth pick in

1059
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: the draft, and this guy is way better, way better.

1060
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: And Marvin Harrison was like a no doubt about it,

1061
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: excellent All American player, and this guy's way better and

1062
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: he's nineteen.

1063
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: Now you know why Ryan Day was smiling ear to

1064
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: ear in a press conference. They when they told him,

1065
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: they said, he got Jeremiah Smith. Yeah, he signed to

1066
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: Ohio State, and he's just like, thank God. But to

1067
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: your point earlier about Jim Kelly, it is interesting how

1068
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 3: before the season we talked or everyone was thinking about

1069
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 3: Ohio State's offense was gonna be so predicated on the run.

1070
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: Now part of that too, the offensive line had some injuries,

1071
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: and now they've kind of flipped in the playoff, them

1072
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: changing their identity and say, hey, we're gonna we're gonna

1073
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: pass to open the run. We're gonna give it out

1074
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: to Jeremiah Smith, give it out to our weapons. It

1075
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: seems like that's what they've been preaching or people have

1076
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: been preaching them to do all season. Penn State, well,

1077
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: we're going to lean more on the running game and

1078
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: then play action with Drew Aller and Tyler Warren, notre Dame.

1079
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 3: We're not gonna throw it as much. Den Brock earlier

1080
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 3: in the season kind of wanted to get Riley Leonard

1081
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: to be a passer, and then then he said, you

1082
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: know what, We're gonna run it with him. We're gonna

1083
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: run it with our two running backs, and that's how

1084
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: we're gonna win games. It seems like Texas's offense, to

1085
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: your point about Stark wanting to throw the ball more,

1086
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: it seems like we're here in the playoff and you

1087
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: still don't know what their identity is. I'm trying to

1088
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: think look back on the season when Texas's offense was

1089
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: the best Michigan Week two. I can't think of a

1090
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: game where there's been like a dominant against against a

1091
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 3: good opponent that Texas's offense has found an identity and

1092
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: they've looked the part of their talent that they have

1093
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: on the field.

1094
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: They were better last year, right, I mean they felt

1095
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: much now great against Washington. You're right, yeah, I mean

1096
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Xavier Worth. They had Xavier Worthy. It was a first

1097
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: round pick by the Chiefs and Mitchell who went in

1098
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: the second round. But I mean a lot of people

1099
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: thought he was a top fifteen to twenty talent. You

1100
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: know that I think or some question marks off the field,

1101
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: But I will say this, and I have been critical

1102
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: of Sark over the years, but and Colin asked me that,

1103
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: like who had the you know, do Sark have a

1104
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. I think if on the pie chart

1105
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: of pressure, it's all on Ryan Day back to back

1106
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: years in the semi finals. This was a team like

1107
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: starting in two thousand and fourteen, so like a decade ago,

1108
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: six and seven, five and seven, five and seven, seven

1109
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: and six. They had one good year under Herman ten wins,

1110
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: but then eight wins, seven wins, five wins, and then

1111
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 1: Sark got there. In the last couple of years twelve

1112
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: and thirteen, he's in the semi finals, and he was

1113
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: favored last year against Washington. I thought that line was off.

1114
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it turns out Washington, right, they had the

1115
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: better quarterback, they had, I mean, an absolutely loaded offense

1116
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: and a coach that was literally going to Alabama. So

1117
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: now granted you could argue Sark declined Alabama, but it's like,

1118
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: at worst they're equals. Right. The coach, like Dubor, was

1119
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: a star as well, so it's not like he was

1120
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: this like little engine that no one had heard about.

1121
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: I think Sark's done a masterful job, and he's got

1122
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: resources like ohouse, Like he's got a big budget, which

1123
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: helps in the Niler. But he could lose this game

1124
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: by fifteen twenty points, and it's like what he has

1125
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: done to the program to be in the SEC Championship

1126
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: year one, to be in the semi finals. Now that

1127
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: that ASU game he had to win, that that would

1128
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: have been bad. So that would have been bad. But

1129
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: he hey, listen, he did you see you know. Kenny

1130
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: Dillingham after the game talked about the defensive coverage and

1131
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: people thought he was taking a shot at the dB

1132
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: and he basically said that we teach him on that

1133
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,479
Speaker 1: outbreaking route, which is fourth and thirteen. You're gonna break

1134
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: like they're gonna run the out route at the sticks

1135
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: to try to get the first down. Pretty ballsy play

1136
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: call to essentially run a double move because if you

1137
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: don't get protection and they were bringing the house, that

1138
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: play does not work. I got three step get rid

1139
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: of the ball. So if one of your offensive linemen,

1140
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: even if he trips or something or someone screws up,

1141
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: that is a disaster of viewers doesn't So it's I

1142
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: give start credit. That was a ballsy call in that

1143
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: moment because if something goes wrong, he gets sacked or

1144
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: he scrambles and has to just throw it up. It

1145
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: looked easy, but it was not like, I give start

1146
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: credit for that play call.

1147
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 3: Did your perspective change a little bit on that with Youers?

1148
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: I know, obviously it's one throw, but a fourth and thirteen.

1149
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: I almost texted you. I was like, there's no way

1150
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: Ers has the capability of doing that. Does any of

1151
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: that carry over to this game? Do you think there's

1152
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: any pressure? I guess more pressure on Youers versus sark

1153
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: alone where Viewers doesn't win this game, he plays flat,

1154
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: like does he consider the transfer portal? Does he go

1155
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: to the NFL draft or does that kind of not

1156
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: even matter in this game?

1157
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird. When you looked at his numbers

1158
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: after the ASU game, they were really good. He was

1159
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: like twenty to thirty three, a bunch of touchdowns and

1160
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: on individual play like that first touchdown throw, like a

1161
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: minute into the game, You're like, damn that passed to Essentially,

1162
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: I guess was that the game that was a game

1163
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: tying touchdown? Right? Yeah?

1164
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 3: The fourth and thirteen and then the second OT one,

1165
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 3: the one he had a helm was pretty sweet.

1166
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: He made some great individual throws, but I still feel like,

1167
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: do I trust this guy against again? He was against

1168
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: Arizona State, where besides skataboo. How many guys on that

1169
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: team start for Texas less than two or three? Right, Yeah,

1170
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: Dilli Ham would take most of their players immediately and

1171
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: start them on their team, and they were going totally.

1172
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: So it's just the talent discrepancy there is is pretty wide.

1173
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: I give you credit when you don't mentally crack, and

1174
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: there are points in time in that game where he

1175
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: could have just flattened And you're right, I mean the

1176
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: fourth and thirteen. There's no disputing like his arm talent. No,

1177
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: no one acts like he's like got some crappy arm,

1178
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: like a little peace shooter like he can if you

1179
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: get some time, he can sling it. It's just he

1180
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: also does some things, you know, just throwing the ball

1181
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: up to that guy that was double covered. That was

1182
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: a pick that I would say was a huge moment

1183
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: in that game that helped get ASU back some momentum

1184
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: and not the end of the world. It's not like

1185
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: a terrible decision, but you just he just makes plays

1186
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: like that, which I don't think he can afford to

1187
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: make if they, you know, to Beatlehouse State or even

1188
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: if they get to the National Championships against one of

1189
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: these other like he'd have to be much more in

1190
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: control of where his ball's going. But he makes explosive plays,

1191
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: right if he has some time on.

1192
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: The defensive side of things. For Ohio State, a guy

1193
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 3: that you know, they always mentioned Jeremiah Smith would be

1194
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: number one in this year's draft, Caleb Downs would be

1195
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 3: up there for number two. I feel like a lot

1196
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 3: of people and part of that has to do with

1197
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: the TV version. You don't really get to see a

1198
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 3: lot of Caleb Downs unless it's the skycam and you know,

1199
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 3: harber Street and foal Our go back and you see

1200
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: Caleb Downs like in the middle of the field. But

1201
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: from your perspective being around the NFL in college, what

1202
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 3: sticks out to you about Caleb Downs, especially in this defense,

1203
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 3: because it seems like he's one of those guys where

1204
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 3: all right, Caleb, we'll put you in the middle of

1205
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 3: the field since whatever you want to sense and his

1206
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: instincts and has changed the direction, it's just something special

1207
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 3: and he's he's definitely been. You want to talk about

1208
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith coming from the recruiting as a freshman and

1209
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: then him to be able to transfer from Alabama and

1210
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 3: Ohio State, those two alone, if you would have gotten

1211
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: if Ostin would have gotten those two. And Judkins is okay,

1212
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 3: like they got him in the nil money and he's

1213
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 3: a good number two. But it's like those two players alone,

1214
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 3: you don't even have to get any other transfers. They'd

1215
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: still be in the situation they're at right now.

1216
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think certain defensive backs pop immediately, and

1217
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: Derwin James was one of those guys. Mika Fitzpatrick was

1218
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: one of those guys. I would imagine if you go

1219
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: way back in the day, you know the ed Reeds,

1220
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: even farther back, like the Rod Woodson's, if you just

1221
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: watch college football, you're like, this guy the best player

1222
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: in the field, and you know his versatility. I mean,

1223
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: to come into Alabama and I know it's it's probably

1224
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: a little bit easier with the transfer portor the competition

1225
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: might not be as crazy as it would have been

1226
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: ten years ago. But to just immediately start and for

1227
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: Saban to just talk about this guy like he's a

1228
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: genius and I didn't know that much about him, just

1229
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: because I mean, Bama makes a living off getting like

1230
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: number one five star players, right. Did I remember when

1231
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: when Saban left and it was like Caleb Downs in

1232
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: the transfer portal. I remember being a really big deal

1233
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: in college football, and I was like, maybe I under like,

1234
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: maybe I need to pay a little more attention to

1235
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: this guy. It's like we cannot afford to lose him,

1236
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: kind of like and it shows you the power of quarterbacks.

1237
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: Remember when Lincoln left the USC, Oklahoma freaked out about

1238
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: Caleb and like their ad put out a statement like

1239
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: We'll do everything we can to keep Caleb. That's how

1240
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: I felt like Alabama was treating Caleb downs and it

1241
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: turned out like he was. He was probably as good

1242
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: as gone, but like he was probably only he would

1243
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: have left Alabama for like two spots, probably like Georgia,

1244
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State. It's not like he had a long list.

1245
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,439
Speaker 1: Maybe Texas. I mean it's or stay at Alabama. But yeah,

1246
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean he's he feels like a transcendent talent and

1247
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: we get you know, you watch Charger game, you watch

1248
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: Jrwyn James. When you get a versatile player at that position,

1249
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: because they cover, you know, whether it's the slock guy

1250
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: tight ends, they can play the run. You know, Caleb

1251
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: can return. He's just yeah, they just they just change

1252
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: your defense.

1253
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 3: It's gonna it's gonna be a it's gonna be a

1254
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 3: fun matchup. All four of these teams blue bloods. I

1255
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 3: guess Texas has kind of the home field advantage here

1256
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 3: being in the Cotton Bowl at AT and C Stadium.

1257
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 3: Thank god it's in a dome. Ohio State travels ball anyways.

1258
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 3: I always love the oh is this gonna be a

1259
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 3: factor in this game? Where the noise or whatever? With

1260
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: Ohio State. It's like, guys, Ohio State's played fifteen games,

1261
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: sixteen games this season, coming off the Rose Bowl, It's like,

1262
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 3: give you a break or I love I was gonna

1263
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: ask you this too. I see all the time on

1264
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 3: sports TV, Well, are these the best four teams in

1265
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: the College football Playoff? Are these the best four teams

1266
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 3: we could have? It's like, yes, yes, these are the

1267
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 3: four teams. I know it's not Oregon that we expected

1268
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: or Georgia that we expected, but I do wouldgit, I would.

1269
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: You're your thoughts on those four teams. I think they're

1270
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 3: the best four teams. I don't know what else you

1271
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: could put in there.

1272
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what asu That game was awesome, But

1273
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: I think when you look at it, there were six

1274
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: teams that were clearly head and shoulders above everyone else.

1275
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: And it turns out Oregon, I mean, just had a

1276
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: bad day, perfect storm Ohio State, who's the favorite to

1277
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: win it all? Like I think if they played ten times,

1278
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: Oregon looks like that once or twice. I mean, that

1279
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: was somewhat of an outlier performance, snowballed on them and

1280
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: it just got away from them quick. But and Georgia,

1281
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think those six teams were we could

1282
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: have just had a sixteen playoff this year. Now I'm

1283
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: glad Arizona State, Like that was a really cool moment

1284
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: for college football. But I wouldn't put them, you know,

1285
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: over the course of a season in that group. And

1286
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: then you just we saw a couple of matchups and

1287
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State killed Oregon and Georgia lost farrin Square. So yeah,

1288
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: I got these are clearly these were a lot of

1289
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: people picked. I would say most people picked Ohio State

1290
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: right to win the national championship. At the beginning of

1291
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: the year, I would say most people had Texas circled

1292
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: as a final four team, and I would say Penn

1293
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: State Notre Dame at minimum were picked to be like

1294
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: top eight teams. Right, get the final four, you have to.

1295
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, you never know who your matchup's gonna be.

1296
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think preseason we all acknowledged the rosters

1297
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: the talent. That's the thing in college football more than

1298
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like your roster and your talent of future

1299
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: NFL guys and draftable players really matters. That's what was

1300
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: so incredible Thatt Asu being able to come back against Texas.

1301
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: You're like, how do they do it? Obviously scataboo, but

1302
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: it's like, how are they pulling this off?

1303
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: It's pretty incredible to see his draft stock rise. I

1304
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 3: saw another ranking the other day, which the rankings doesn't

1305
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 3: mean a whole lot, but him being a top five

1306
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 3: running back at the beginning of the season, I think

1307
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: he was like bottom twenty. It's pretty remarkable his thing.

1308
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 3: But I was gonna wrap up with two more questions

1309
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,479
Speaker 3: for you having a down year? Is that just because

1310
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 3: the landscape of college football and it's just year to

1311
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: year where you know they kind of got left out

1312
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 3: with Ole Miss, South Carolina, Alabama losing three games, the

1313
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 3: Big Ten, the top three teams we knew were gonna

1314
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: make their way in. Not really a big deal, right,

1315
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 3: It's just a one year thing. We all know the

1316
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: SEC depth wise is the best conference.

1317
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's two separate conversations on a weekly

1318
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: basis just playing teams with a bunch of NFL players.

1319
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: Over the last ten twenty years, it's not debatable. One

1320
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 1: thing Colin got me thinking about that the top of

1321
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: the Big Ten and the top of the SEC has

1322
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: been relatively similar. Right, Hardball had a powerhouse these last

1323
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: three or four years. Beat Saban last year. Ohio State

1324
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: has been basically an SEC team since Urban Meyer got

1325
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: there through Ryan Day. They went to Totoe with one

1326
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: of those great Georgia teams a couple of years ago.

1327
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: Remember on was it New Year's Night. But the Big

1328
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: Ten programs have more money, and I include Notre Dame

1329
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: in that as well. So you got these Michigan, Well,

1330
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood was supposed to go to LSU. Well why

1331
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: to go to Michigan? They got more cash. Ohio State

1332
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: has unlimited money. Notre Dame has just I mean every

1333
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: bit of Ohio State Oregon type money. Oregon is now

1334
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. So when you look at the

1335
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: financial backing of the elite programs in the Big Ten,

1336
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: and we haven't even mentioned as USC who just can't

1337
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: figure you know, how to chew gum and walk straight

1338
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: at the same time right now. But they definitely have

1339
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: financial backing. If things started, if they were winning like

1340
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: Oregon Ohio State can the money there would be would

1341
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: be every bit the equal of like they'd be signing

1342
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood's to twelve fifteen million dollars. So you look

1343
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: at Alabama, They're eighty put out a statement begging for money.

1344
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: LSU just i'd mean loses out a guy to Michigan

1345
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: and even Brian Kelly said like, yeah, it's just tough

1346
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: Georgia last year, and I don't blame them, but they're like, yeah,

1347
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 1: we're just not going to pay a recruit four million

1348
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: dollars and he ends up going to Nebraska Big Ten.

1349
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 1: So the Big ten schools like this is all about

1350
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: money now, Like Mario Christavaul is not a very good

1351
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: coach I think relative to like how much recruiting and

1352
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: talent and he can dominate that element of it, but

1353
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: he does have financial backing. That's a huge huge player

1354
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: in moving forward. Now maybe that changes with like revenue

1355
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: sharing and everyone's under the same salary cap. If I'm

1356
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: the SEC, I want that to come right. So it's like, hey, quarterbacks,

1357
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: make this starting, you know, and it becomes a little

1358
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: more equal playing field, but right now it's not. And

1359
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: I saw I don't know if you saw the story,

1360
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: but Dirk Cutter retired the Boise OC and he said

1361
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: he must have done a local interview, and he said

1362
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: that one of their top guys on defense got a

1363
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: DM within twenty four hours of them losing the game

1364
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: from Oregon that offered him seven hundred or seven hundred

1365
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. Wow. And he said, our total budget

1366
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: at Boise is two million dollars and that's up four

1367
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars from the previous year. So it's like,

1368
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: how can we compete now? As of right now, that

1369
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: guy has not left Boise for Oregon. But I think

1370
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: Cutter was just trying to say, like how shady this

1371
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: whole thing is and how unfair it is to put

1372
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: these kids in these situations, Like this guy doesn't want

1373
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: to leave his teammates. He loves playing at Boise, but

1374
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: it's the wild wild West. But that's the thing with Oregon,

1375
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: like they can just they can offer people like seven

1376
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and He's just like a corner or

1377
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: a linebacker. This is not you know, Caleb or Caleb

1378
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: Downs or Caleb Williams or it's not like some lock

1379
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: top ten pick or Micah Parsons or whoever. This is

1380
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: just like a guy that will start first. We'll give

1381
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: you seven hundred dollars. You know why because there are

1382
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: budgets like twenty twenty five million dollars. That's a huge

1383
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: advantage for the Big ten. It is the money in

1384
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: the breaking to boost your money like that. I mean

1385
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: the now, how long can this sustain? I don't know

1386
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: because if I, if I wasn't, if I was a

1387
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: rich guy and I was cutting these checks, might he

1388
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: better be like in the playoffs every year? Because if

1389
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: we ever have like an eight win season, all miss

1390
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: a good example of that. They spend a lot of

1391
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: money last offseason they didn't make the playoffs. Well, it's

1392
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, I gave

1393
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: you a million dollars last year. I'll give you one

1394
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars this year. Make my money go a

1395
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: little farther.

1396
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: That's what's so crazy about the whole tampering aspect of it.

1397
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: I don't.

1398
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 3: I don't mind it. I'm not heartburn over it. But

1399
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 3: it's crazy how it's just legal Where Oregon can just

1400
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 3: DM a defensive line from boiss technically isn't right.

1401
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: It's just not being enforced. I don't think it's legal.

1402
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it is. I mean, if I

1403
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 3: was Boise State, why would you not. I guess report

1404
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 3: Oregon or report whoever that they were dming them. But

1405
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what the whole rules, with the whole window.

1406
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 3: But he's not.

1407
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: They don't want to. They don't they don't want to

1408
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: get sued. So it's like, you know, Hardball gets in

1409
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: trouble for giving the guy a cheeseburger in two thousand.

1410
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: It's like, well, harboss, these are just NCUBA rules, very

1411
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: black and white. If if I if I'm the nc

1412
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: DOUBLEA and I hammer Oregon, let's say I'm just making

1413
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: up a infraction like I deduct ten scholarships for twenty

1414
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: twenty five. Well, the laborer and the you know, the

1415
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: play all these lawsuits have been all leaning toward the players,

1416
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: like that would be like anti competitive, and that's where

1417
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: they just I think they were just terrified. They don't

1418
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: want to get too. They don't want to lose any money,

1419
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: so they just let it go. And that's where I

1420
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: think these coaches. None of these coaches have a hard

1421
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: have a like are against anyone getting paid. They just think, like,

1422
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 1: this is not really how it works. Now. You could

1423
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: also push back, like if Dirt Cutter wasn't sixty five

1424
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: and he was forty five and Texas or some Ohio

1425
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: state wanted him to be the offensive coordinator, wouldn't it

1426
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 1: operate the same thing? Like when your season ended, I

1427
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: would hit you up like, hey, you're making five hundred grand,

1428
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: We'll offer you one point five million dollars to be

1429
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: our offensive coordinator. So you could argue it's the same thing.

1430
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw Washington State lost thirty six players to

1431
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 3: the transfer portal. And it's funny too. The FCS Championship

1432
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 3: was on Monday, and they showed before how Chris climb And,

1433
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 3: who was the former NDSU coach there forever and won

1434
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 3: a bunch of national championships with them. He was repping

1435
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 3: Kansas State and he was at midfield, and I kind

1436
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 3: of made jokes with my buddy. I was like, yeah,

1437
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 3: Chris clemb is there supporting NDSU, But he's low key

1438
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 3: recruiting too. He's low key recruiting some guys at the

1439
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: FCS level.

1440
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: He was at that game on Monday night.

1441
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was at that game. He was talking to

1442
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 3: the head coach at NDSU. I don't know his name,

1443
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 3: but it seems like they have a new head coach

1444
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 3: every year. Won a national championship, then go on to

1445
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 3: USC or go on to wherever. But I just thought

1446
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 3: it was kind of funny how Climb's there repping Kansas

1447
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 3: State where it's like, yeah, he's there repping, you know,

1448
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 3: watching North Kota State, seving that he's built. But it's like,

1449
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 3: at the same time, how can you not look over

1450
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 3: at ndsqu's wide receiver number five, who's Trait Lance's brother.

1451
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 3: That dude could start out a Power five conference easily.

1452
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 3: He's a junior. I don't know if he's gonna leave

1453
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 3: her stay. Who knows. Maybe he's like a Christian Watson

1454
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 3: and just kind of makes his way up throughout the draft,

1455
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: gets drafted third or fourth round. But I feel like

1456
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 3: you're starting to see that even more with Nil on

1457
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: the portal. Is a lot of these guys going to

1458
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: the FCS and the group of five.

1459
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: See this, that would be the defense of Oregon coming

1460
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: after that dude on Boise. It's like Climbing's at Kansas State, right,

1461
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 1: which is a good football job. Uh, they're the guy

1462
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: that replaced him. I think his name's like I don't

1463
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: want to screw up his last name, but he's now

1464
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: the Fresno State head coach. South Dakota State's head coach

1465
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: just left to become Washington State's head coach. So all

1466
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: these guys go to Kansas State, Fresno State, Washington State

1467
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: with hopes of one day being the head coach of

1468
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: like Texas or Alabama or Oregon. Like that's the If

1469
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: things go really well and those guys rattle off like

1470
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: back to back ten or eleven win seasons, they will

1471
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 1: be up for the head coach of Washington If Jed Fishley,

1472
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, that's it's no different than a player. So

1473
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, Derk Kutter, Like, Bro, you

1474
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: bounced around, you became head coach. It's like, what the

1475
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:13,839
Speaker 1: hell's the difference? And I understand there should be some rules,

1476
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: but if I was at Oregon as like the quote

1477
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: unquote GM or the head coach, I had to be

1478
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. We'd have a list of It

1479
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't be everybody, but like, give me the top, like

1480
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: ten guys at the Boise's the UCFS. I guess UCF's

1481
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: a powerful but still you know whoever? I mean, guys

1482
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: that could immediately start for us that we can give

1483
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: an Washington State, Oregon State, probably one guy a program

1484
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: and we either have a connection through a player on

1485
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: our team that knows them, or we just go directly

1486
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,839
Speaker 1: to him or his agent and they're gonna get some yeses.

1487
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, how can you knock on those guys for

1488
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 3: just moving up the ladder? Like you mentioned, I've done

1489
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 3: all I could here at my school winning national championships.

1490
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: I want to go into Pac twelve. I want to

1491
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 3: go to the Mountain West and try to compete and

1492
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 3: then eventually make myself up the ladder.

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01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, one thing I heard. I saw this

1494
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: guy that used to be a GM in college football,

1495
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: and I saw a clip on social media and he said,

1496
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: the first couple of years of the transfer portal, because

1497
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: NIL was so new and so many programs didn't have

1498
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 1: their collective or money flow, figured out that the transfer

1499
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: portal was loaded with a lot of like elite guys,

1500
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: like a ton of Jordan Addison Caleb Downs type guys

1501
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: the first couple of years, and that's clearly has played

1502
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: out that way right in the draft. A lot of

1503
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: guys have been on multiple teams. Well, now a lot

1504
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: of these programs have corralled some money, so they're top guys.

1505
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: They can be very very aggressive to keep that they want,

1506
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,879
Speaker 1: So a lot of guys going in the transfer portal.

1507
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: It's become a little like NFL free agency, Like once

1508
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: the franchise tag happened, it's like, actually NFL free agency.

1509
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: A lot of the top guys don't actually hit it.

1510
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: They either get tagged or extended. And I do wonder

1511
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: if the transfer portal has been diminished a little bit

1512
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: at least with the powerful four guys jumping in. Like

1513
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: if you're a Power four guy and jump in, you're

1514
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: probably not in the leak guy, because if I want

1515
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: to keep you, if I'm a top thirty program, I'm

1516
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,560
Speaker 1: just giving you five hundred a million whatever cost to

1517
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: keep you where I think where you can pillage is

1518
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: the Boise Fresno state. Like those type programs are still

1519
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: right for the picking, but I do wonder if it's harder,

1520
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: like why does this guy want to leave Alabama? Like

1521
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: what's this actually? Because if they wanted to keep they

1522
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 1: probably could right. Or it's like Ohio State, because if

1523
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 1: I would have told you five years ago, like hey,

1524
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: three guys want to transferm Ohio State, will a lot

1525
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: of programs be all over them? Now? I'd be like

1526
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: that's why wouldn't Ryan Day just want to Keepe they

1527
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: have an unlimited but or Oregon or wherever. So I

1528
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: do wonder if now it's much more like the minor

1529
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: league non power for that FCS game, I mean, how

1530
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: many programs had their GM Hell, they might have sent

1531
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: them there on a scouting mission.

1532
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a There was a lot of good

1533
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 3: players on both sides, even NBSU. I know that it's FCS,

1534
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 3: it's a lower division. But when you talk about dynasty's

1535
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 3: in sports, NDSU's gotta be. I mean, ten national titles

1536
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 3: in fourteen years, that's that's pretty incredible. What they're going

1537
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 3: on in North Dakota State. You can even watch the

1538
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 3: entire season and you probably blink your eyes you could

1539
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 3: guess who would be in it. It'd be either in

1540
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 3: North Kota State, South Dakota State, or insert blank team.

1541
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: It's pretty Montana Montana State.

1542
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was pretty happy to see Montana State lose.

1543
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: So isn't their quarterback supposed to be? But think about that,

1544
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: like the Washington State guy, South Dakota State, the the

1545
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: Fresno State guy is only one year removed from North

1546
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: Dakota State. Those programs, it would have shock you of

1547
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: South Dakota State like a lot. Like Signetti brought over

1548
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: like fifteen guys to Washington State.

1549
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, South Dakota State's quarterback actually just committed to Iowa

1550
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 3: the other day, which is which is kind of a

1551
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 3: good fit. But to your point, that's.

1552
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: The guys better than Washington State. But I'm saying that

1553
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: next tier guys, like how many guys can that guy

1554
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: bring with them to Washington State? And that's just the

1555
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: kind of the new college football, at least for the

1556
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 1: foreseeable future, which you know, we're weird way is kind

1557
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: of entertaining. I like it.

1558
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's free agency. It kind of brings more

1559
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 3: eyes to sport. We always talk about parody and drama

1560
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 3: and stuff, but man, this season's flown by. It kind

1561
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 3: of stinks that we only got three more games left,

1562
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 3: but I'm excited to see how it ends up turning

1563
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 3: out for sure.

1564
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're feeling good, We'll get your feelings on

1565
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 1: your way out because I'm taking Penn State.

1566
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel good. I got Notre Dame. I think

1567
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 3: they win. I'm gonna go twenty four to twenty. I

1568
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 3: think I think it's a low scoring game, Like you mentioned,

1569
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 3: a dog fight back and forth. Hopefully my voice, I'm

1570
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 3: gonna try to keep my voice together from when we

1571
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 3: do the reaction after, because screaming a lot during that.

1572
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 3: But I just I know we talk about it Notre

1573
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 3: Dame all the time and stuff. But what Marcus Freeman's done,

1574
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 3: I mean that turnaround with NIU losing that football game

1575
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 3: to where they are right now and just the future

1576
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 3: of what it brings and Brian Kelly quitting on Notre

1577
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,839
Speaker 3: Dame and them wanting to stay in house and trusting

1578
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 3: the players. The athletic director said, hey, you know, we're

1579
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 3: gonna look elsewhere the players wanted. Marcus Freeman. He comes

1580
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 3: in and it's been a bumpy road. Marshall and I

1581
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 3: you obviously are the worst two losses, but this run

1582
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 3: has been special. It's been fun to see for sure.

1583
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 3: And there's been so much young recruiting that they have

1584
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 3: for years to come. I mean there's secondaries, freshman sophomores.

1585
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 3: It's incredible. And then you're like you, like, you mentioned

1586
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 3: your guy Bryce Young too, So what year?

1587
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: What years?

1588
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 3: Love sophomore?

1589
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like the core of their team. That

1590
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: video where the strength coach announces to the team that

1591
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of days after Brian Kelly, maybe

1592
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: it was it was within the week. It was relatively

1593
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: quick that they made the decision. It's pretty cool. I mean,

1594
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty cool and uh yeah, man, I I

1595
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: just you guys played I remember first week of the season.

1596
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: Was it two years ago? You played Ohio State lost

1597
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: kind of like a barn Burner game. Oh when was

1598
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: was that three years ago?

1599
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: I know that was that was the last year. Wasn't

1600
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 3: the first week, but it was in the middle of

1601
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 3: the It was in the million middle of the season,

1602
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 3: I want to say October when they wore the green

1603
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: uniforms and they brought twelve guys on defense and Ohio

1604
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 3: State scored on the one and McCord was dealing I

1605
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 3: think even a third and twenty three.

1606
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: I thought you guys had a game like Week one

1607
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: or two where you won like twenty to fifteen or

1608
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: twenty to twelve. Might have been twenty twenty. I thought

1609
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 1: it was twenty twenty two. But again it's so a

1610
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 1: Cole McCord's long gone who actually kind of looks sweet

1611
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: now it might be a good like third round draft

1612
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: picked dark horse in the NFL Draft one who okay,

1613
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 1: good Lucky Jackson. I will talk to you soon. Man.

1614
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 3: Appreciate it you over going

1615
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: The volume