1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: I think I cool aid for lunch. Yeah, I think 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: you might. I think I did have the cool aid 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: for lunch. This me doing it happening. What are you doing? 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: You're an idiot, point for me, point for defensive endy Pete. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: So I will take this and it's another year of 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: me just continuing to dominate you in terms of predictions. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Something we all agree on that we are in the lounge. 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: I am Ryan make and I'm Garrett Downing. And the 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: off season, you know, calendar and all the activity of 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: the off season is in full swing right now. You know, 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of a busy time of the year. I was, yeah, 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: we always people think that the off season rolls around, 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: we turn off the lights, shut her down until August. 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: That's not the way things work. It's unreal. After the 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: season ends, you season clean out, clean up the lockers, 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: season reviewing, press conference with Steamshotti, who you here from 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: like twice a year. Then you go roll straight into 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: like coaching changes, all that kind of stuff happens, and 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: then you're going down to the Senior Bowl and Pro Bowl. 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Before you know it's you know, the NFL, I say 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: it all the time. They do an amazing job making 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: this league a seven three business. It really is, and uh, 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: I just feel like every single year he becomes that 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: even more so. Now if they could just space out 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl and the Senior Bowl, then we could 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: both go to the Pro Bowl every year. It would 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: be a great idea. We need to we need to 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: dig on the agenda and this offseason's Winner meeting or 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: this Springs owners meetings, that needs to be number one 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: on the agenda. Talked to Steve about that and get 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: it in Brazil. Good call. Alright, So, speaking of all 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: the changes, uh, let's start this out by talking about 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: the some of the biggest changes that have been going 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: on recently, and that's to the coaches. Ravens hired Greg Roman, 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: and they had two departures with Leslie Frasier the secondary 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: coach and offensive line coach. One cast that both those 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: guys went to Buffalo. So Garrett, let's start first with 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: the addition the Ravens made and bringing in Greg Ruman. 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: What's you does this mean for the offense and specifically 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: for the running game. Yeah, I think that when you 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: look at where Gregor Roman has been, his track record 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: has been that the offense is that he's he has 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: coached have been able to run the ball really well 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: at a high level consistently. There's a commitment to it 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: checks all the boxes in terms of wanting to improve 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: the running game. Now that said, I mean, I don't 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: think that he's just He's not just a running game coach. 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: You know, he's a tight ends coach, um, and so 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: I think that he his addition is a sign that 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens are absolutely committed to the running game. Everybody 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: said Steve A. Shotti, John Hardball at the end of 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: the season, gotta run the ball better. Marty morning Wage 53 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, got to run the 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: ball better. And that's a huge priority this offseason. And 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: I think that the addition of Roman is a is 56 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: a really good sign. You know, it takes making a 57 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: step in that direction. To me, it's kind of like 58 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: the debate that we got into a week or two 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: ago when you were saying, well, the Ravens haven't changed 60 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: their schemes since Gary Kuback left, and I was like, well, 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: but the unning game is different. You know, it's not 62 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: the same running scheme that Garry had here, that stretched zone, 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: it does not look the same. They've kind of been 64 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: like between schemes, They've done a little bit of this, 65 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: a little bit of that. And that's where I think 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: Greg Roman will come in as a senior offensive assistant 67 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: and really helped to kind of scheme up that run 68 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: game a little bit more. Uh. And like you said, 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: that's not the only thing he's gonna do. I think 70 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna help in a different number of different ways. 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: You know. John Harbor also talked about just having a 72 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: creative mind. I think that's a reputation that Greg Roman 73 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: has built over his time just being kind of a 74 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: offensive innovator in a way. Uh. You look at some 75 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: of the things that even the Bills did earlier in 76 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: the year. You know, he was only there for two games, 77 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: but some creative stuff, you know, I mean last year 78 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: with the Bills, some creative stuff with Tyrod Taylor. Uh. 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: You know, he went to a Pro Bowl, the Pro 80 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Bowl last year. Uh. So I think that he can 81 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: bring an element of that too, Uh to this offense. Well, 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean look at the offenses You've talked about Tyrod, Yeah, 83 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: that was an example, and then forty. I mean, both 84 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: those guys in Kaepernick and tire Out obviously totally different 85 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks totally different quarterbacks. But I think the point is 86 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: that he found a way to utilize their skill sets 87 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: to the best of their ability, you know, and it 88 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: made the most out of those guys in terms of 89 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: um you know, making plays with their with their arm 90 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: and with their legs. And I think that is sort 91 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: of the point, is that you find the best ways 92 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: to put your players in positions to succeed. And I 93 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: do I think that it's not just Roman. I think 94 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: it's an overall offensive philosophy. I don't want to say 95 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: it's a shift, but it's a clear it's a there's 96 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a clear, concerned effort between now in the 97 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: time of week one next year that they need to 98 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: get all the pieces in place to run the ball 99 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: strong and effective. And I think too about the running 100 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: game is he has it's a very physical pound of 101 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: the ball, downhill rushing attack. It's power running football. So 102 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: I think that they might get away from some of 103 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: the stretches, own finesse running the ball kind of stuff 104 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: and go more power attack. That's what Greg Roman was 105 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: known for with the specifically Frank Gore, all that kind 106 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: of downhill power rushing, and we've seen heard the Ravens 107 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: talk about wanting to beef up that offensive and get bigger, 108 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: get you know, better, and bigger basically is what they 109 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: said to me. That sounds like it's gonna be a 110 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: little bit less towards the all Right, we want athletic 111 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: guys who can pull and run down the field and 112 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: do all that stuff, get to the second level, more 113 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: towards we want to mall up front. Yeah that could 114 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: be the case. Yeah, that might that might happen. It'll 115 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: be interesting. That will be an interesting point to kind 116 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: of watch the progression of that throughout the off season 117 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: and going into training camp. Because you know that that 118 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: stretch zone running scheme that also is part of the 119 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: West Coast offensive, that they're going to continue to run 120 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: power running not part of the West Coast offense too, 121 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: he says, as he shrugs his shoulders. Um. Yeah, but 122 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: but because when you look at the the when you 123 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: look at teams that have used that West Coast system 124 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: that I don't want to say Kubiak is like the 125 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: guyfather of that, but everyone but his own unique system. 126 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: It's like his own unique twist on the West Coast. 127 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: And I don't think that the Ravens are like married 128 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: to being exactly that version of the West Coast. Now, 129 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: maybe some fansom want that because you had so much 130 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: success under Kubiak, but they're not going to be that. 131 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: It's not just the same. You can't have a different 132 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: guy running somebody else's complete defense or offense. They have 133 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: to make it their own. And I think that that's 134 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: how Greg Rowan will kind of influence Marty a little 135 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: bit and having that power rushing. And just to be 136 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: clear that Marty Morning makes still call in the place, 137 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, so he is still the play caller when 138 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: you get into the game. But I just think that 139 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: the Roman edition is going to be really good also 140 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: for game playing. I think that's gonna be a nice 141 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: piece of it too. All Right, So the two guys 142 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: who have left, Leslie Fraser and one Castile, how how 143 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: does their departure impact Yeah, I think it's tough to 144 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: lose Leslie Fraser for sure. I Mean he's somebody that 145 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: I think everyone really liked. We were like both these guys. 146 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: But um, when Leslie Fraser got here, he made the 147 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: point from the very first day turnovers takeaways, that was 148 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: the point of emphasis, all right, and everyone kind of 149 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: labeled him as the takeaways coach, you know, that was 150 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: like the unofficial title for him is that he was 151 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: the turnovers coach because the Ravens didn't have hardly any 152 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: two years ago six and then they lead NFL. It 153 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: went from the bottom to the top. And it's not 154 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: in a rap song from the bottom, starter from the bottom. 155 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: Now we're here, Drake, there you go, there you go. 156 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: There's your pop culture reference with the day um and 157 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: And I think Leslie Frazer had a lot to do 158 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: with that. I mean, see, I don't. I think that 159 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: he definitely helped him that and I'm not trying to 160 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: diminish anything that he did. I think he definitely did. 161 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: But I think it was more the team defensive speed 162 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: improvement that led to more interceptions than it was Leslie 163 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Fraser's specific coaching. It's not like he I mean, you 164 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: look at it, Okay, So did he like improve specific 165 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: guys who like weren't good at takeaways before Jimmy Smith 166 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: didn't have a single pick all season. He continues to 167 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: drop him, So it's not like he improved that much. 168 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Eric Weddle had four, which is about his 169 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: career average. You know, uh, Tavon Young had two powers 170 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: head to Web had one. It wasn't like Webb all 171 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden under Leslie Fraser turned into that ball 172 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: hawking and read like safety that we all hope had 173 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: one really nice one. Yeah, but I just don't. You 174 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: don't think Leslie Fraser had anything to do with them. 175 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: I do think he did, but I do and I 176 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: do think that the secondaries overall improvement is the credit 177 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: to him. But in terms of just saying like, well, yeah, 178 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: he's the reason why they went from six interceptions to 179 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: leading the tied for the lead league league lead with 180 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: eighteen was Leslie Fraser. I think it was more defense 181 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: because you look at some of the numbers. I mean 182 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: seven of your eighteen interceptions came from linebackers. Yeah, yeah, 183 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I had four and three each. And Weddle was an 184 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: addition that that didn't have anything to do with that 185 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: was right, that was going to improve the interceptions, no matter. Well, 186 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: I just think that overall the secondary was better, and 187 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: I think I think that is more to Leslie than 188 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: than the interception. But I think that part of the 189 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: the result of the secondary being better is that you 190 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: do end up getting more interceptions just as a whole. 191 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: I think the secondaries it. I think Eric Wettell had 192 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: a lot to do with that. But I think an 193 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: example of the secondary being better is you get more 194 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: interceptions across your entire defense, and I think that that's 195 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: part of it. And one cast Ceo leaving for Baltimore. 196 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: The Ravens have not hired offensive line coach yet as 197 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: of the time that we're taping this um. But you know, one, 198 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: he was a polarizing figure in Baltimore for a lot 199 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: of fans. I liked one. I thought he was good. 200 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: You know. I think for some reason, every fan base 201 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: like loves to hate on its offensive line, unless you're 202 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys or the Raiders, where you've invested a 203 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: ton of money in high draft picks. But like everybody 204 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: thinks their offensive line stinks. It's kind of like the 205 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: argument I make with cornerbacks. Everybody, every NFL fan thinks 206 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: their corner there those quarterbacks stink because they're on an 207 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: island out there. Whenever it passes completely early, well the 208 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: quarterback just gave that up. You know. It's like you 209 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: can pinpoint when things go wrong much easier. I feel 210 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: like it's the same with the offensive line, you know, 211 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean a sack is given up. It could have 212 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: been for a variety of reasons. It could have been 213 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: because the wide receivers just weren't getting any separation at all. 214 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: It could have been because the quarterback held the ball 215 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: too long. It could have been for any number of reasons. 216 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: But you always think, well, the offensive line stinks, well, 217 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: offensive line coach, what are you doing? You know, and 218 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: the offensive line like there's they never like make big plays. 219 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: So it's like you have that yeah yeah, so uh 220 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: so I thought one did a good job developing some 221 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: young guys. I when you look at Ronnie Stanley, he's 222 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: been a pretty darn good player. You look at Rick 223 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: Wagon or fifth round pick turned into a really good 224 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: right tackle. Colletia Stantley has a lot of money in 225 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: his pocket after working with for a few years exactly, 226 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, you never know, like, you know, I'm not 227 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: saying that collet he was an athletic phenomenon. Yeah yeah 228 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: before that, but he worked under him for a few 229 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: years and then he went and got the biggest contract 230 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: in NFL history for guards. So, but was it time 231 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: for the Ravens, you know, to move on from one 232 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: and for one to find another opportunity under Sean McDermott, 233 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: who he worked with in Philadelphia. Maybe it was you know, 234 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: maybe we'd reach that point where the Ravens wanted to 235 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: bring in Greg Roman revamp that run game. We all 236 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: know that one had fluents in the run games. He 237 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: was the run game UH coordinator back in two thousand thirteen. 238 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: So I think it was a fresh start kind of 239 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: for both sides, and it works out for both. So 240 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: we'll see if they hire offensive line coach moving forward. So, Garrett, 241 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: next thing, now that we have a lot of the 242 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: coaching and changes made, although there's still three opening, there 243 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: still openings quarterbacks coach, line coach, right because secondary coach. Uh. 244 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: But the next thing on the agenda for you and 245 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: I is the Pro Bowl, And it's always nice. This 246 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: year I got the good end of the deal, the 247 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: good end of the bargain, which is going to the 248 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Last year's you've reminded me maybe a thousand 249 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: times you went to the Pro Bowl in Hawaii. This 250 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: year's in Orlando. Orlando is gonna be nice, Florida, and 251 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: January is gonna be really nice. Hawaii is kind of 252 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: on the league of its own. Yes. So this all 253 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: went down a couple of years ago when you went 254 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: out to Phoenix for the Pro Bowl, and I was salty. 255 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: I was like, what the heck, man, I go. I 256 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: go to the Senior Bowl in Alabam right now, which 257 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: I will say, shout out to the brick Pit in Mobile, Alabama. 258 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: I go on this trip and look forward to it 259 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: every year just so I can go to the brick 260 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: pit and have their ribs there. Plus it's kind of 261 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: warm down there. It's not that bad. Yeah, okay, I 262 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: don't mind it. But anyway, we all realized that the 263 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl is a better thing. So I was complaining. 264 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: I was complaining it as you tend to do. Right. 265 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: This is before we decided that you were going out there, 266 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: Before you decided we decided you were going to get 267 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: to cover the Pro Bowl. I said, all right, fine, 268 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: well next year I get it. Then we do a rotation. 269 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: And we didn't know at that point where it was 270 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: going to be, but there was gonna go back to Hawaiian. 271 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: There was just kind of rotating. Yeah, so you agree 272 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 1: to it like a fool. I took. I took the 273 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: burden hand philosophy. I had the bird in the hand, 274 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: you take what you got and and ended up coming 275 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: back to bite me a little bit. Now on on 276 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: the wrong end of the rotation. We won't get into 277 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: too many details, but we have kind of a complicated 278 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: trade possibility in the works for Pro Bowl eighteen, depending 279 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: on where it is location, it's compensatory picks. It's a 280 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: real nice location. You get to go back to back years. 281 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: But then I get the road Trips. I get the 282 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: first three picks in the next year's draft for road Trip. 283 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: It's it's a kinba. It's very detailed, and you probably 284 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: all don't want to hear. We had to have our 285 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: general Council to take a look at the paper to 286 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: make sure that everything cleared out. Seriously, very complicated, all right, 287 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: So we'll figure all that out down the right. But 288 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: while we're talking about kind of looking back reminiscing, one 289 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to do on this podcast was call 290 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: back some of the season predictions that we made uh 291 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: at one of our earlier podcasts. I don't know which 292 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: one it was, but before the season started, right before 293 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: the Buffalo game, we made a bunch of season predictions. 294 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: You and I and we're gonna go back and look 295 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: at who got it right and who got it wrong. 296 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: And I have a sneaking suspicion I know who got 297 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: it right. Well, you know, our boss always gives media 298 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: in general hard time because you know, you make all 299 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: these predictions. You say this guy is gonna be great 300 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: and then he's not. Any go to this this game, 301 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: and they're always predictions, and nobody ever goes back and 302 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: has any accountability and says I made that prediction, unwilling 303 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: to stand up and admit that I said it at 304 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: the time, but we're willing to do that. That's right, 305 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: absolutely one. So let's start with the music. That's right. 306 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Let's start with the fifty three man predictions, which you 307 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: and I both had the same number wrong in this, 308 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: but our difference in predicting the fifty three man roster 309 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: was that I put Vlad Ducas on the team and 310 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: you put Jeremy Butler on the team. Yeah, which one 311 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: of those two players you think played a larger role 312 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: in the Ravens season this year? Well that was Butler 313 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: went and got signed somewhere else. So he went and 314 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: went somewhere else. So it's all he had an opportunity 315 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: to sign. I think practice squad. I believe they could 316 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: have had him on that. And what I said at 317 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: the time was that vlad Dukas I thought that he 318 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: would not be on the three man roster because if 319 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens had a need and needed to go back 320 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: and bring him back on the fifteen minute squad, he 321 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: would be there. So, as you pointed out, I was 322 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: correcting that you were incorrect and saying that he would 323 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: have made the fifty three. So point for me on 324 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, right, So I plus one on the 325 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: flag cost started eight games this year, right, guards, that's 326 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: plus one mink. Now we did offensive m v pea, Garrett, 327 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: you selected Joe Flacco. Do you think he was their 328 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: MVP on offense? Who would you say it was the 329 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: offensive MVP this year? Well, first I picked Steve smith Sire. Yeah, okay, 330 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: I would probably It's hard to let's be honest, it's 331 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: hard to pick an offensive MVP this year with the 332 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: offense did not play particularly. Offense didn't play well. Now 333 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: with the most valuable player on the offense, if you 334 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: take one guy on the offense and remove him from 335 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: the equation, I'm still gonna be every team's quarterback, starting 336 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: quarterback is their MVP. No, that's not the case. I 337 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: think that played the best who played the best at 338 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: their respective position. Right, Joe Flacco was in the bottom 339 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: tier of quarterbacks in the NFL, so I'm not gonna 340 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: make him the Ravens offensive MVP. I would probably say 341 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Mike Wallace had the best season. If we're removing Marshal Yonda. 342 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Marcia have a lot of caveats here. Well, 343 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: you can't take the quarterbacks because everyone would take take that. 344 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: You can take the quarterback, can't take you can't take 345 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: the guard because the guard is Martial had a great season. 346 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: The running game wasn't good or whatever, but he's their 347 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: best offensive player who had the biggest impact on offense 348 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: this year. I'd probably say Mike Wallace. He had a 349 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: thousand yards leather team had four touchdowns. I would agree 350 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: with that. You said it was gonna bead basically, you 351 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: said it was gonna be Steve Smith. I would say 352 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: Steve Smith is probably number two. I would put him 353 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: above Joe. And how would Steve finished with? Steve finished 354 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: with seventy catches for seven yards and five touchdowns. Yeah, 355 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean he was about what you'd expect missed a 356 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: couple of games with an ankle. You know, here's another question. 357 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: I think he won. He played really really well down 358 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: the stretch. Now, in some of those they were losses. 359 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: He had some of his biggest best games Dallas in 360 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: a loss, New England lost, but he won the Philly 361 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: game that touchdown at the end of the game, basically 362 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: won that game. What about Ronnie Stanley, It's an interesting one. 363 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: What about Kyle you Shack. I love just but Kyle 364 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: was not the ving so the most valuable player on 365 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: this team? About what I think? What about one of 366 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: the running backs, Terence West. I wouldn't give it to 367 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: them either. I mean, it's hard when you're basically the offense. 368 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: Never really Ronnie Stanley. I mean, from putting Ronnie Stanley inclastion, 369 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: I'm probably going Yanda, right, I understand that. But I 370 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: think that the reason I think that maybe you can 371 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: make a case for Stanley is when he was injured, 372 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: they lost every single game that he he was injured, 373 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: And when he came back, they were a much better team, 374 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: especially when he started playing well. Um, you saw how 375 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: valuable he was. So I don't know, there's a case 376 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: that you can make for Stanley. I won't give either 377 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: one of us a point on that one, although I 378 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: probably get a half point. Joe, come on. Defensive m 379 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: v P, Garrett took Terrell Suggs. I picked Eric Weddle. 380 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: Now you were quoted. Oh I forgot about this. You 381 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: were quoted with the offensive v P Joe Paco. Pick 382 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: your quote at the time. The injury seems like it 383 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: was years ago and it isn't on our radar anymore. 384 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: It's funny they said that the injury thinks affected him 385 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: this season as well. I was. I was going by 386 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: with Joe was saying at the time. Everyone else is 387 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: saying that I said quote about Steve Smith. I still 388 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: think the best offensive player on the team is Steve Smith. 389 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah pretty good. Alright, So defensive m VP, you picked 390 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: Rrell Suggs and you said quote, I think he will 391 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: be the team's best pass rusher. He will put up 392 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: double digit sacks right around ten. He finished with eight, 393 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: so he was the team's best pass rusher. You're right 394 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: about that, But he didn't get quite to ten. But 395 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: he was close. He had without the armas injury, he 396 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: might have gotten the ten. So I don't think that 397 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: was a bad pick for defensive MP. I don't. I 398 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: picked Eric Weddell. I said, quote, high tide rises all ships. 399 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be as dynamic of a player as 400 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: he was five years ago when he was league leader 401 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: of interceptions. I don't think he'll be that player. He's 402 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: gonna make more plays than anybody on that position since 403 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: I read, but I don't know that he's gonna come 404 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: up with eight interceptions. Spot On came up with four. Yeah, 405 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: we were both and he improved the secondary overall. That's 406 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: what I said. On the back end, Eric Wedal is 407 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna make a huge difference. Yeah, I think that we 408 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: will definitely approved the secondary. I still knowing what I 409 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: know now, I still give the nod to Terrell Sucks 410 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: for defensive MVP. Really yeah, I think so. I think 411 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: I think again most valuable player, and I think that 412 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: is er No. Eric. He was more valuable than wed 413 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: All in the defense. Yeah, and I think that there 414 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: were some games that Eric had some key miscuse latent games. Overall, 415 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: he was great. He was the best safety. If you 416 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: look at PFF, they say he was best safe in 417 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: the league. Um, but there were some big miscuse latent games, 418 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: Patriots game being one of them, Giants game being one 419 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: of them, Treill songs. I just think the leadership that 420 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: he brings wells also leader. It's it's tough too. It's 421 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: really one A, one B. You can make a case 422 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: either way. But I still think that Terrell Sugs is 423 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: the most valuable player for this defense pass rush, against 424 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: the run. He affects the games so many ways, and 425 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: he's everyone points to him as the team's leader. So 426 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: for those reasons, I give it to him. But I 427 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: don't think you make bad points. I think your point 428 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: about Wettell and the two games of Patriots game and 429 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: the Giants game is well taken. But where did the 430 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: defense make its biggest improvement this year? What turned the 431 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: Ravens defense into one of the best in the league 432 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: this year? It was the improvement in the secondary. I 433 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: would also say that it was having Troil Sucks on 434 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: the field. He wasn't on the field last season, and 435 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: having him on the field what made a staggering difference 436 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: in terms of the overall play of the defense. Yes, 437 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: but the defense in terms of the defense has been 438 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: stuff in the run, not quite as well as it 439 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: did this year for most of the year. But it's 440 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: been stuff in the run for a long time. The 441 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: Achilles heal because Brandon Williams, Let's not forget Brandon Williams, 442 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: Mike Pierce, their impact on the run defense. The secondary 443 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: was the Achilles heel of this defense, and Wettell turned 444 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: that around to a large degree, especially in terms of 445 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: giving up big plays. Now there was the Patriots, and 446 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: so we'll go with plus one for Garris. So I'm okay, now, 447 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: surprise player of the year. He was gonna be the 448 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: biggest surprise. Your selection was Matt jude On the rookie 449 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: outside linebacker. You said, I think he's right around a 450 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: six sack guy. I think Judon has more sex in Zadarius. 451 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that's a pretty good prediction right there. 452 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: You crushed me on saying he was going to be 453 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: more productive than Zadarius, and so I went and listen 454 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: to it. He was more productive Zadarius, and I think 455 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: that he was the biggest surprise. He was a fifth 456 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: round pick from green Bell four sacks um and the 457 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: race was really high on him, and then he ended 458 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: up fizzle. He ended up playing more than Zadarius Smith. 459 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: He passed him on the depth chart. Who was everyone 460 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: thought he was going to be not I'm not saying 461 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: it's a bad pick, but my pick was better. This 462 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: is a plus one for me because I picked Terrence 463 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: West and I supposed when Justin Forcett was still in 464 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: the roster all that stuff, and I said, Terence was 465 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: I think he will finish the year with more rushing 466 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: yards and more attempts than Justin Forcett. Did that happen? Yes, 467 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: I think he will leave the Ravens running be the 468 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: Ravens lead running back. Did that happen? Yes, I think 469 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: that he will run for close to a thousand yards. 470 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: And then I came back and said, actual, probably closer 471 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: to seven. Okay, what did he run for? Seven? Seven? Me? 472 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: Four and five touches? This is me doing? What are 473 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: you doing? You're an idiot? So you were on in 474 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: terms of what Terence West was going to produce. But 475 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it was a huge surprise because everybody 476 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: watching that guy during training camp thought that he was 477 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: the best running back on the field. Everybody said that 478 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: Terence said that had by far his best season of 479 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, on a on a when you step 480 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: back and look at it. This guy came from he 481 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: was a possible training camp cut before training camp open, 482 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: but we did this. He did this. This was not 483 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: before training camp open plus one for me, So that 484 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: wasn't really that one for me. Oh here's there. I'll 485 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: give you this one. Here's the crown jewel on the 486 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: wide receivers. From debating what impact the wide receivers are 487 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna have, Garrett and I quote, I would not be 488 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: surprised if Kamar Aiken led the team in receiving yards 489 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: this year. I think it's going to be Steve Smith 490 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: and Camary and as you're starting receivers. So just for 491 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: the record, here, just for the record, here, this is 492 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: when Perramian still wasn't back on the field yet, you 493 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: didn't know what you're gonna get out of him. So 494 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: I will admit I missed. That was one that I 495 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: was off on a big. Now when we did big, 496 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: can we just say, what was your prediction for Bush 497 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: Perraman in his exact step trying to change the subject. 498 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm admitting I'm wrong on that one. What was your 499 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: prediction on Brasari perramid Well, the first let's review what 500 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: I said about comic and I said, I'm sorry, quote, 501 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't think he's going to repeat nine 502 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: d some yards. I don't. I think you need to 503 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: have speed on the field at all times. He's your 504 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: number three coming off the bench. No, you hit on, 505 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: I've already already been So that's would you say what 506 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: was gonna? I will say this. I listened back to 507 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: the pod and we were both pretty spot on on 508 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: like our evaluation of brashot now and this at the time. 509 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: This is like in training camp or waiting for the 510 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: regency the start. We both said, you know, blah blah blah, 511 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: we're both spot on to quote, I said, he still 512 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: has to go as a player. He's not there yet. 513 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: He missed six cents a period of time. But I 514 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: think you uh, and he's still not a polishment wide 515 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: receiver coming out of college. But I think he will 516 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: make an impact on his offense because of his speed alone. 517 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: He can fly and that makes a difference. Which you 518 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: did a couple of touchdowns this year, a few touchdowns 519 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: because of his speed alone made a difference. You said, 520 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: you know you were you were concerned about the report 521 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: report between he and turned out that was spot on. Uh. 522 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: Now the predictions. Okay, you said this is in May. 523 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: We made these predictions before the knee injury that kept 524 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: him out of most of the summer. You predicted that 525 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: he would have thirty five catches for seven hundred yards 526 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: and five touchdowns. Not terrible, Still not on I predicted. 527 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: I was must have just been drinking the cool I 528 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: think I had cool aid for lunch. Yeah, I think 529 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: I think I did have the cool aid for lunch. 530 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: I preaked fifty catches for eight hundred yards and seven 531 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. Yeah, you said he ended up having thirty 532 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: three catches for four nine yards and three touchdowns. So 533 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: who was closing between us? You were close? Yeah? I 534 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: was well way closer much. So there we go. We 535 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: split those, so I think I know you get minus 536 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: two for he's gonna leave the team. We both missed 537 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: on each of those. So I got the Bho Terence 538 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: West point, I get the will split the wet All songs. 539 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: Nobody gets a point on that, and I get the C. 540 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: Smith point, So I would know would either of us 541 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: saying that? And I get the predictions closer than Jeremy 542 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: Butler to being an impact player on this team. The 543 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: Vinciman prediction is a definite point for me because it 544 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: ended up being exactly what I said it was going 545 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: to be, which is you can cut him and then 546 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: resign it, which is what they did. Point for me, 547 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: point for defensive MVP. So I will take this and 548 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: it's another year of me just continuing to dominate you 549 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: in terms of predictions. We all agree on that sight. 550 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: Moving on alright, to wrap things up this weekend. This 551 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: weekend NFC Championship games this weekend. They're gonna be some 552 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: good ones. There's some there's some decent football played last weekend. 553 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: But I think this Sunday settle in because he got 554 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: Steelers Patriots. It's a nightmare scenario for Ravens. Know it's awful, awful, 555 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: This is as bad as it can be. But my 556 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: question to you, Garrett is who are you rooting for 557 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: Steelers or Patriots? It is it's I knew, first of all, 558 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: as soon as the Ravens lost that game, you knew 559 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: this is gonna happen. I knew it was gonna be 560 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: as soon as the Ravens lost on Christmas Day in Pittsburgh. 561 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: I said it's gonna be Steelers Patriots AFC Championship. That said, 562 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pulling for the Patriots. Oh couple, it's 563 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: one um. Devin mccordy is currently slated to go to 564 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. If the Patriots go to the Super Bowl, 565 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: he will not be going to the Pro Bowl, and 566 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: that opens up a door for Eric Wettle to go 567 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. So I'm rooting for Wettle to 568 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: get to the Pro Bowl. Also, I just you gotta pick. 569 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: It's the lesser of two evils. I don't know how 570 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: you pick between those. So I'm gonna rationalize my pick 571 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: with wanting to see Eric Weill go to the Pro Bowl. 572 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: Oh God, that is weak. So you're gonna go all 573 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: this week but on your Ben Roethlisberger jersey this weekend. No, 574 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. But I am rooting for the 575 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: Steelers in this. Here's the thing, I that there is more. 576 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: I personally respect the Steelers more than I do the Patriots. Okay, 577 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: the Steelers to me, strike they're very Ravens esk. Except 578 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: they have more offensive playmakers. But they they play hard 579 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: nosed football that you know. I just think that they're 580 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: they're very much like the raven They have continuity. You know, 581 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: front office is great all the way down to the 582 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: coaching staffs, all that stuff now, but they remind me 583 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: a lot of the Ravens, for sure. They definitely, I 584 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: mean the same division. I have a lot of respect 585 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, but they do things the right way. 586 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: I see. I have gained more and more respect for 587 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots. What the way they have, how good they are, 588 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: continue to win. All the stuff Tom Brady whining to 589 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: the refs, all that stuff, all the other off field stuff, 590 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: what you won't get into. I'm looking at the Patriots 591 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: and what they've been able to do. What they did 592 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: it without the quarterback for four games there in the 593 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: position where they are without their best offensive playmaker, Rob Bronkowski. 594 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: I just marvel at the fact that they've been able 595 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: to be so successful. And the main thing is I'm 596 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: rooting for well to get into the Pro Bowl, so 597 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: for those reasons. So then there's also the argument, do 598 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: you buy into the argument of all right, the Ravens 599 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: were six inches away from beating the Steelers, so if 600 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers go to the the Super Bowl, it kind of 601 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: legitimizes the Ravens, you know, it says how good the 602 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Ravens were this year. I I do buy into that 603 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: to to a degree. I just think that the margin 604 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: of difference is so thin, it's razor thin in the 605 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: NFL between really good teams and the really close teams. 606 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: I think it's it's super thin. And I think that 607 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: game could have gone absolutely either way. And I think 608 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: how the Ravens made the playoffs. I think they could 609 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: have beaten the Dolphins at home, and I think they 610 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: could have beaten the Chiefs. I have very little doubt 611 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: of that, so I I do. Now you've got to 612 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: be careful with that game because the Eagles blew out 613 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers early in the season. Depends on when you 614 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: play teams when they're healthy. So it's not like the 615 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: Eagles can sit there and say, well, well we beat 616 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: the Steelers. If they win the Super Bowl, we are 617 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: now the best team in the NFL. So you gotta 618 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: be careful with that argument. But to me, actually I 619 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: don't put much in that. That's not why I'm runing 620 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: for the Oilers in this because that almost makes it 621 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: more painful to me that agree for me to root 622 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: for the Patriots, because you're like, man, there in the 623 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, we were six inches away from doing the 624 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: same exact thing. That makes it more painful to me. 625 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: It goes back to the respect factor, which teams like better. Uh. Now, 626 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: not that I like either of them completely. I think 627 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: Steelers fans, if I have to hear one fan base 628 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: crow about the Super Bowl and stuff being back in 629 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Steelers stands to me, are a lot 630 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: more palatable than Patriots fans, particularly on social media, which 631 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: is where I have to interact with them. I think 632 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: I think that, uh, you might be jaded a little 633 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: bit by the recent success of the Steelers and the Patriots. 634 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: I think if the Steelers are back in there, you're 635 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna be here and everybody talking about how many Lombardi 636 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: trophies they have and all that stuff, You're gonna get 637 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: real tired of that real quick. That's true. That is true. Uh, 638 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Here's one other wrinkle that I just want to get to. 639 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: If it meant that Tom Brady was hired as the 640 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: most winning with the quarterback with the most Super Bowl 641 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: titles in NFL history, if he won this year and 642 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: that meant he's retiring, would you absolutely then say I 643 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: definitely want the Patriots to win. That guy's going Yeah, 644 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: me too. Yeah, but he's not going anywhere before this. 645 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: If you said I'm retiring if I win it, I'd 646 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: be like, all right, buddy, go get it, get out 647 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: of here. I can't wait till I don't have to 648 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: face you anymore. Absolutely, anyway, that does it for us. 649 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: Enjoy or don't enjoy the Championship Games weekend, Matt Ryan 650 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: to who could prove himself with that whole Matt Ryan Joe, 651 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: if I could debate, that's gonna be an interesting one 652 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: to see if he can get this goal and win 653 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: the big ones. Uh So, enjoy the Games this weekend 654 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: and we will be back with you next week for 655 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: another episode of the Last