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Speaker 1: Hey guys, Sunday Sampler Time, just some of the podcasts

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Speaker 1: from the Nashville Podcast Network. Since a lot of people

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Speaker 1: don't put up podcasts on Sundays, we put this up

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Speaker 1: maybe here a little bit of what you like, and

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Speaker 1: you go listen to the whole thing. In the Vets

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Speaker 1: Office with Doctor Josie, Doctor Josie sat down with doctor

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Speaker 1: Amy Addis, who is a house called Veterinarian in New

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Speaker 1: York City. So that means celebrity pets like share Billy, Joel,

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Speaker 1: Joan Rivers and some crazy stories. So that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Four Things with Amy Brown. I had Marcus King on

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Speaker 1: Who's Awesome Morgan's podcast? Oh that's coming up here, but

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Speaker 1: I do want to get started with a clip from

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Speaker 1: in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie, with that New

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Speaker 1: York City Vet.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to In the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horschhak.

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Speaker 3: The people you got close to you were pretty high profile.

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Speaker 4: And what I have noticed on this podcast especially is

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Speaker 4: will have stars, country music stars or like Bobby Bones

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Speaker 4: come on and you talk to them about their career

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Speaker 4: and their goals, and they're they're kind of one person.

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Speaker 4: And then when you talk to them about their animals,

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Speaker 4: you can just see like a completely different side of them.

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Speaker 4: I think just from watching her on TV that Joan

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Speaker 4: Rivers is pretty intimidating. I'm assuming that you probably saw

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Speaker 4: a lot more of a softer side to her with

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Speaker 2: I saw all sides of Joan Rivers. She was an

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Speaker 2: enormous personality. She was driven in a way that very

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Speaker 5: When I would go.

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Speaker 2: Into her home to work with the dogs, there would

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Speaker 2: moment and it ended at midnight. I mean, she was

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Speaker 2: at on occasion or emails that I wish she had

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Speaker 2: never sent to me. But when she was finished with that,

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Speaker 2: she turned out to be, of course a very dear friend.

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Speaker 2: So we would go through the cycles of Joan's love

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Speaker 2: and her wrath. She was an enormous supporter of mine.

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Speaker 2: When I started my house call practice, she told everyone

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Speaker 2: she knew. The relationship over those years turned into a lovely,

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Speaker 2: lovely friendship where we went out to dinner together. I

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Speaker 2: mean she called one day. We had homes close to

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Speaker 2: each other, about one hundred miles north of New York City,

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Speaker 2: and she called and said, take me to the movies

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Speaker 3: So it was like she didn't ask.

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Speaker 2: Of course, she didn't ask a question. She would have

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Speaker 2: the most beautiful dinner parties where the group of people

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Speaker 3: Of her person.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to be on her bad side. Oh no,

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Speaker 4: I love the story about her Yorky. I think it

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Speaker 4: and then she ended up doing it and was like

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Speaker 4: I was right to do it.

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Speaker 2: Said, well, she was never wrong, of course, But you know,

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Speaker 2: And like all of a sudden, you know, she had

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Speaker 2: just looked at me and she said, don't tell me

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Speaker 2: what to do, just make my dog well enough to go.

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Speaker 6: Like you didn't.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't messed with them exactly. Wow. Yeah, it's funny

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Speaker 3: we do, even if they're not famous.

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Speaker 4: You have everybody that's a bugineer and has owners that

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock and a Saturday night. I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: make house calls. If you truly had an emergency, it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like not in New York, no means no.

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Speaker 2: And you're retired.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Another thing that you talked about in the book that

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Speaker 4: I really loved and I have seen with my own

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Speaker 4: experience as a veterinarian, is that no, there is no

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Speaker 4: such thing as a disabled pet, and so we have

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Speaker 4: a lot of patients that require amputations, or they lose

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Speaker 4: an eye, or they go deaf, and so I really

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Speaker 4: loved how you put an emphasis on that. I think

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Speaker 4: I tell my owners all the time. We can learn

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Speaker 4: so much from our animals. I have had dogs going

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Speaker 4: Dogs on three legs or cats on three legs that

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Speaker 4: would never know the difference. And if someone cut my

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Speaker 3: You're the rest of my life. Who knows.

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Speaker 4: But they are just so resilient in that way.

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Speaker 5: What was your house like South Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 7: What was it?

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Speaker 1: I don't know the physically, what was the house like

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Speaker 6: my drums set and my guitar and I would just

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Speaker 6: spend hours in there, either playing drums. My grandfather tell

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Speaker 5: What's the train beat?

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Speaker 8: Can you.

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Speaker 5: Oh like it got it gotta go out? I hear

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Speaker 5: the train coming. That's what I think when you do that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, maybe just because we're trains in it

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Speaker 6: Yeah no, no, no, I mean that that's the train

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Speaker 6: be that's the quint essential. And he taught me, you know,

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Speaker 6: And I started on drums actually, so I just I

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Speaker 6: spent a lot of time alone. But it was you know,

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Speaker 6: played guitar all day or drums to sing.

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Speaker 1: We'll just call it the blues. Before your voice hits puberty?

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Speaker 1: What do you I don't know, man, And how bluesy

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean you'd have to ask, Like like Tina Turner,

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Speaker 6: like I liked soul singers. Sure, I feel like you know,

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Speaker 6: Bibe was putting out like soul records.

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Speaker 1: But did it change for it at some point where

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Speaker 6: Was I started singing when I was when I was thirteen,

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Speaker 6: So I think that's why I made before that Nah, Wow,

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Speaker 6: I just played guitar. I was too bashful to sing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, first time singing. Then then why in public? Why

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Speaker 1: what got you there?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know I had always kind of expressed my

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Speaker 6: Cross to bear by the Oman Brothers.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's not an easy one.

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Speaker 1: It's not an easy so you decided to just go Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I'm a little teapot, right.

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Speaker 6: That's how I learned to swim, you know, just get

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Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time in therapy. I got

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Speaker 1: Mom died drugs in her forties, and so you know,

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Speaker 5: They're built in, like they're cooked in.

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Speaker 1: But I can acknowledge them, and I can see them,

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Speaker 5: But I can ignowlre it. Right like forever, I didn't

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Speaker 7: I gotta know why.

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Speaker 5: I was just wanted to be by myself or.

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Speaker 1: You know, everything told me. I loved them tomorrow about

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Speaker 1: my wife a few years ago. But I was just

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Speaker 1: always like, this is who I am, This is who

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Speaker 1: I am, this swam But that's that was like what

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Speaker 1: mine were rooted in.

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Speaker 5: What was yours a parent thing? Was yours a home

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my mom left when I was very young, and

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Speaker 6: that was really hard for me, and that was it's

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Speaker 6: still something that I really struggle with.

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Speaker 5: You know, is she alive now, she's still alive.

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Speaker 6: Her health's not very good, but we you know, we've

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Speaker 6: packed things up and we're we're a lot closer now.

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Speaker 5: You know that you're a better man than I am.

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Speaker 5: Like my real dad's still alive. I don't talk to him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's it's challenging.

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Speaker 5: You know, how old were you?

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Speaker 6: I was like five, so like that age is really

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Speaker 6: really tough because you know, I'd go to school every day,

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Speaker 6: I'd get sent home from kindergarten every day because I'd

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Speaker 6: cry so hard that i'd throw up. And this was

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Speaker 6: a daily thing because you don't know where her mother's at.

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Speaker 6: It's you know, just as a as a mammal, a living,

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Speaker 6: breathing mammal, You're just instinctively you're gonna need your mother's

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Speaker 7: Cast up little food for yourself.

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Speaker 3: Tequila.

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Speaker 10: We don't always do it, but just make a deal

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Speaker 10: Ray speaking of the glass room where Scuba works. He

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Speaker 10: I really liked it so much so that, Yeah, I

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Speaker 10: There's a lot of na brands out there. This is

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Speaker 10: Curiosity, I decided to do a little research because I

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Speaker 11: We're gonna do it live.

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Speaker 7: We are the one, two three sore losers. What up, everybody?

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Speaker 7: I am lunchbox. I know the most about sports, so

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Speaker 12: It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.

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Speaker 12: I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,

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Speaker 11: We do have a farm.

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Speaker 12: It's beautiful, a lot of acreage, no animals, a lot

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Speaker 7: my father's like, hey, where is that curtain rod that

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Speaker 11: All the stuff you didn't do.

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Speaker 11: I coach, you haven't done it for six months.

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Speaker 7: I have never been told about a curtain rod anywhere.

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Speaker 7: And I'm like what. And he's like, yeah, she told

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Speaker 7: then we bought a mirror that she bought a mirror

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Speaker 7: where do you want to hang it? I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I do notice she's stuck in the closet. Never said

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Speaker 7: And I'm like, well, what the hell? Like they start

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Speaker 7: So they go in there and that's where they pick

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Speaker 7: out their clothes. I'm the man in this house, Jim, No, No,

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Speaker 7: father in law like, Hey, we're gonna clean this up

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Speaker 7: right now. We're gonna clean this laundry up right now?

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Speaker 11: What in this place look like?

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Speaker 7: I'm like, holy s. They like, we can't even take

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 6: Oh you're talking about mount laundry?

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Speaker 11: Honey, what happened to the mountain back here? Dude? It's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, But I'm sitting there trying to watch football going.

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Speaker 11: Across the top.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to relax, and there's drilling freaking knocking stuff out,

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Speaker 12: That was my big dilemma, right, You just stand there

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Speaker 7: I mean, I can't see a TV.

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Speaker 11: Well, see, we have a lot of tea.

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Speaker 12: I made sure that we're a TV household, so usually

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Speaker 7: We're doing, I have a TV I guess what spare bedroom.

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Speaker 7: How often do I go in the spare bedroom?

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Speaker 12: But bezos, you got this roller TV that I can

440
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Speaker 12: roll roll around the spare bedroom.

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Speaker 7: Never go in there. That's where the in laws are staying, right,

442
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Speaker 7: And what a pointless room, right, It's so dumb. It's like, oh,

443
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Speaker 7: we need a spare bedroom, you know when people come visit.

444
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Speaker 7: Guess how often people come visit? Maybe once a year.

445
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Speaker 7: So you can figure it out through an air mattress subury.

446
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Speaker 7: You don't need a spare bedroom. It's absolutely stupid. But

447
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Speaker 7: I'm I don't go in the spare bedroom. But since

448
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Speaker 7: they're staying in there, we need to tidy up the

449
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Speaker 7: spare bedroom.

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Speaker 11: So we're in there.

451
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Speaker 7: The in laws are moving the bed, vacuuming behind the bed, dude,

452
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Speaker 7: and I'm like, what the they're acting like that we

453
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Speaker 7: live in the damn shithole. And then I've never done

454
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Speaker 7: anything in my life. I mean, they've got the vacuum out,

455
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Speaker 7: they got the mop they're you know, doing washing the

456
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Speaker 7: sheets and the comforter and the pillows and the every

457
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Speaker 7: day coach.

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Speaker 12: That's not even the worst of it. Did you get

459
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Speaker 12: criticized for your tools?

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Speaker 7: Oh, next, Hey, where are your drill bits? Oh they're

461
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Speaker 7: right there in that closet. They may have a little

462
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Speaker 7: dust on them. And he's like, I didn't see him.

463
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Speaker 7: I don't think you have any drill bits. And I'm like, oh,

464
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Speaker 7: I have drill bits, man, they should be right there.

465
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Speaker 7: So I didn't. I didn't find them. He goes, I'll

466
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Speaker 7: just go to home depot and get them. You got

467
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Speaker 7: home depot and I'm like, all right, man, and he

468
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Speaker 7: goes home Depot gets whatever he needs. He comes back

469
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Speaker 7: and he's like, oh, they are in that closet. They

470
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Speaker 7: were just underneath something. I'm like, I told you. He goes, yeah,

471
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Speaker 7: but these these drill bits are better. These are these

472
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Speaker 7: are a little bit newer. And he goes to get

473
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Speaker 7: my electric drill and he's like, seems like you need

474
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Speaker 7: an electric drill. The battery's not holding a charge. No,

475
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Speaker 7: I charge that thing every night.

476
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Speaker 5: Should be good.

477
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Speaker 7: And he's like, you want to go pick you up

478
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Speaker 7: one right now? I'm like, or he goes, you want

479
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Speaker 7: to go to home depot with me and get one.

480
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Speaker 7: I'm like, no, I really don't. I don't have any

481
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Speaker 7: desire right now at this moment, at this point in

482
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Speaker 7: time to go to home depot to get a gosh

483
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Speaker 7: darn drill. I would just like to relax. And he's like,

484
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Speaker 7: I'll just go to home depot. So he goes back

485
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Speaker 7: to home depot.

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Speaker 11: He made a double trip to depot.

487
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Speaker 7: He made a triple tip trip to depot. Right, that's bad.

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Speaker 11: That means you didn't have it.

489
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Speaker 7: Coach, No, I had a drill. I had the drill bits,

490
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 7: but apparently the battery wasn't holding its charge. Then he

491
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Speaker 7: the back door, like when it's wintertime, it's harder to

492
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Speaker 7: lock it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you gotta winterize it, man, And.

494
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Speaker 7: He's like, oh, you need a chisel. He's like, do

495
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Speaker 7: you have a chisel?

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Speaker 12: I might Coach, you've been asked for the electric gun,

497
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Speaker 12: the chisel, the curtain rod in an ancient mirror.

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Speaker 7: And I'm like, no, no, man, I don't I don't

499
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Speaker 7: have a I don't have a chisel.

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Speaker 8: Heels.

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Speaker 7: I wish i'd known that for I got to go

502
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Speaker 7: back to home depot and he goes back down. Nebo

503
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Speaker 7: gets the chisel and he's like, chiseling out where the

504
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Speaker 7: lot goes because I guess it's sunken down or it's

505
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Speaker 7: not level anymore. So it was hitting the top and

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Speaker 7: he chisels a little piece of the wood off. I'm like,

507
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Speaker 7: none of this shit bothers me. None of this bothers me.

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Speaker 7: Can we like, I've lived in this house and none

509
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Speaker 7: of this has bothered me. I have not wanted to

510
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Speaker 7: fix any of this. No one has told me I

511
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Speaker 7: need to fix any of this. But they come to

512
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 7: town and it's like, oh my god, this house is

513
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 7: falling apart. And then the spare bedroom. Guess what, right,

514
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 7: we never used the spare bedroom. I never put a

515
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 7: curtain rod up never, or a shower curtain, right, and

516
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 7: so like, how are we supposed to take a shower?

517
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 7: I never, I didn't think about that. Whenever you come,

518
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 7: we usually just hang a towel and it gets on

519
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 7: the or put some towels on the floor and then

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Speaker 7: brust the water. Well that's unacceptable. Well we'll just run

521
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Speaker 7: the target real kit quick and we'll get a shower

522
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Speaker 7: curtain and rot and oh my god.

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Speaker 12: Damn dude, four depots and a target.

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Speaker 7: It was like, I mean, it made me just sitting

525
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 7: there going and then my wife's like, is everything okay?

526
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 7: I'm like, well, besides the fact that they think I

527
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 7: am incapable of doing anything. And b I don't know

528
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Speaker 7: if I'm other supposed to sit there and help, or

529
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 7: if I'm if I'm allowed to sit here and watch football.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: The you know protocol here.

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Speaker 12: The protocol is this, you offer something that's just completely pointless.

533
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Speaker 12: So for example, for me, it's just Gary, let me

534
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 12: hold this ladder for you. No, man, does these things

535
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 12: hold themselves? It it's four legs, stupid, Okay, no worries.

536
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 11: Man.

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00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 12: You offer something that you know they don't even need

538
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 12: help with. You know, hey, dude, it is getting darker.

539
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 12: You to grab a light or something.

540
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 5: No, man, I'm good.

541
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Speaker 7: Oh okay, Uh, just let me know if.

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Speaker 11: Anything you know you're offering, you know what am I

543
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 11: gonna do?

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Speaker 12: Hold a light?

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Speaker 7: You know, stuff like that. Because I looked at the

546
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 7: curtain run and they were I mean, it took him

547
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 7: forty five minutes to do the curtain run.

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Speaker 12: I'm like, guys, you gotta measure it. That's a whole thing.

549
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 12: It's not just sticking it up there. Gary would measure it.

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Speaker 12: He would put a laser on it, dude, he would.

551
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 12: He's got the drill gun. You're gonna do one side

552
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 12: then the other. There's a lot to level it. There's

553
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 12: a level on top. Me dude, me, I'd stick it

554
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 12: up two darts in the sides right.

555
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 7: And we had the exact same conversation. I said, guys,

556
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 7: it's been forty five minutes. What's going on? Why is

557
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 7: their tape all over the wall. And my wife's like, oh,

558
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 7: you know how my dad is. He likes to measure

559
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 7: everything and make sure everything's perfect. And she goes, that's

560
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 7: how I prefer it. You know what I mean is

561
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 7: if we just measure, measure, measure, measure, measure, make sure

562
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 7: everything's perfect. You prefer perfectly measured. She goes, let me

563
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 7: guess your dad would have just got up there and

564
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 7: eyeballed it. I said, yeah, I think he would eyeballed it.

565
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 7: That's what I would have done. I'd have just looked

566
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 7: your dad would I'm a construction guy, I know, but

567
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 7: I think he eyeballed a lot, like a curtain rod.

568
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 7: I don't think you is a big deal.

569
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Speaker 12: I would almost imagine that the curtain rod can probably

570
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 12: there's probably what is it called backsplash or something where

571
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 12: it's actually level there. You would just need to level

572
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 12: the top and boom it.

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00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 7: I don't know, but I'm just saying I left that

574
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 7: week feeling like, holy s man. He this dude thinks

575
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 7: I am the laziest person in the world because I'm like,

576
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 7: I don't want to do any of this crap. I

577
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 7: just want to watch football. I'd never planned to do

578
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 7: any of this be he criticized my tools, what I'm

579
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 7: working with. He was like, you need to step up

580
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 7: your game, and b see, they're coming back in like

581
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 7: two weeks.

582
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 11: Dude.

583
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 12: The worst is a tool criticization, criticizing It happened to me.

584
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 12: I would I He goes, hey, will you go get

585
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 12: me get me something to screw this in.

586
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 14: Dude.

587
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 11: I just went and got a Phillips screwdriver, like a

588
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 11: hand one.

589
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, dude.

590
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 11: He wanted like some drill gun. That's I bring him

591
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 11: that and he's like, what.

592
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 5: The is this?

593
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 11: I was like, at Phillips, fuck you want.

594
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 12: He goes, We'll be out here all night if I'm

595
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 12: gonna do it with that, my that's a good point.

596
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 12: He's like, you ain't got that thing, you know, whatever

597
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 12: the name is, it's just it's like a hydraulic gun.

598
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 12: And he's like, but dude, my I hand him like

599
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 12: it's limp and it has no cord connected to it, and

600
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 12: I'm I'm.

601
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 11: Like, yeah, just this little phillips.

602
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 7: Dude.

603
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 8: He's like that, get out of here, man.

604
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 11: So then I do it, and then I'm walking with

605
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 11: my little phillips.

606
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: Screwy. Wasn't good at all.

607
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: Take personal mules men.

608
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Speaker 15: Well, because November is men's Mental Health Awareness month. It

609
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 15: just happened. The whole November movement was happening. I really

610
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 15: wanted to focus this episode on men's mental health and

611
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 15: talk about it in a lot of different ways. But

612
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 15: first up, I have an expert on with me. Doctor

613
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Speaker 15: and doctor Adra you are a psychotherapist, but also you

614
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 15: kind of focus heavily on men's mental health.

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00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 5: How you doing?

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Speaker 14: I'm great, I'm so good. I'm so happy to be

618
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 14: here and excited to talk more about my passion.

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Speaker 15: Say you're a male and you did finally find a therapist,

620
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Speaker 15: and you're like, okay, this could be a fit for me.

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Speaker 14: Yep.

622
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Speaker 15: But then taking that a step further, is they feel

623
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Speaker 15: uncomfortable to do so why do you feel it has

624
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Speaker 15: been generally harder for men to get into.

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Speaker 14: Therapy generally, I think we expect men to be hyper independent.

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00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 14: They're problem solvers, you know, there's the trope around the

627
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 14: lone wolf, like you can do it on your own,

628
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 14: you can figure it out, and you are the provider,

629
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Speaker 14: you are the protector. Like they're all these and even

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Speaker 14: if these are stereotypes, they are really powerful expectations that

631
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Speaker 14: still exist in our society. And there are powerful expectations

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Speaker 14: that some men really hold true. Like there are a

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Speaker 14: lot of men that feel really proud of that traditional masculinity.

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Speaker 14: There are a lot of women who look to men

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Speaker 14: who want men to uphold that real traditional masculinity. There

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Speaker 14: are men who may be feel in conflict with it,

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00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 14: but regardless, there's an expectation. And so we're essentially asking

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00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 14: men to set aside everything that society has asked them

639
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 14: to be. You're a little boy, boys, don't cry, suck

640
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 14: it up, be a man. Don't cry. I'll give you

641
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 14: something to cry about. Like I have men who are

642
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 14: commenting on my videos on TikTok and sending me dms

643
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 14: all the time, sharing the experiences they had at ages

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00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 14: as young as four or five or six where they learned, oh,

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00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 14: I'm too old to cry now. And so when you

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00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 14: learn that young that you're not supposed to have those

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00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 14: sorts of emotions, that you're supposed to figure it out

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00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 14: on your own, man up. And then we expect them

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00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 14: decades later to feel super comfortable walking in and asking

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Speaker 14: for help. There's just such a discrepancy there between what

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00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 14: we generally expect men to be and then what the

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Speaker 14: experience and process of asking for help and going to

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Speaker 14: therapy usually is.

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Speaker 15: So being someone who is such an advocate for mental

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Speaker 15: health for everyone to address these issues and go to

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Speaker 15: therapy utilizing this space, How is the best way we

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Speaker 15: can encourage men that they are not losing their masculinity

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Speaker 15: and in fact gaining emotional intelligence and emotional vulnerability to

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Speaker 15: become like a better version of this man that they

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Speaker 15: want to be. On this podcast, if I am encouraged,

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Speaker 15: somebody's listening to this and like, yes, this is all true,

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Speaker 15: this is how I feel. Yes, how is someone like

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Speaker 15: me or say the women who are listening and their

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Speaker 15: partner or their brother or their family member, how can

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Speaker 15: they make it a space for that person in their

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Speaker 15: life to show them that they can have both because

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Speaker 15: they have been taught, you know, on learning these things

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Speaker 15: is part of that. But how can people help them

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Speaker 15: to understand that better?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 14: I think part of what happens is that I do

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Speaker 14: believe therapy as a resource or like coaching, even I

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Speaker 14: feel like I know a lot of men's coaches who

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Speaker 14: do essentially what I do in therapy, But there's a

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Speaker 14: branding shift which I think can be a little bit

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Speaker 14: more accessible for some men. But I do think even

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Speaker 14: therapy is becoming a less stigmatized resource, and even in

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Speaker 14: some places in the country, almost like a status symbol,

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Speaker 14: like oh, yeah, I've got the best therapist in New York,

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Speaker 14: Like you're in LA Like yeah, I'm going to go

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Speaker 14: see my therapists. Like there are places where I see

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Speaker 14: that shift happening, And I think especially versus for that,

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Speaker 14: I do see that shifting a bit. I think what

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Speaker 14: we can do general population can do is in our

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Speaker 14: own homes and with our own relationships with men. What

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Speaker 14: I hear from a lot of men is that before

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Speaker 14: they're even considering going to therapy, you know, they're gauging

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Speaker 14: in their own life. Is there space for me to

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Speaker 14: be emotional? Is there space for me to be vulnerable?

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Speaker 14: And what happens when I do take up that space.

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Speaker 14: What happens when I do allow myself to be vulnerable.

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Speaker 14: I open up, I cry, I share that I'm struggling,

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Speaker 14: I share that I'm hurting, I share that I'm I'm worried,

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Speaker 14: I'm scared. And what happens, what I hear happen. And this, again, generally,

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Speaker 14: this is not everyone, not at all. But I think

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Speaker 14: the men who are especially reluctant to therapy is that

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Speaker 14: in their own lives, they're experiencing what happens when they

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Speaker 14: are vulnerable and emotional, and it's completely turning them off.

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Speaker 14: So they're feeling like, Okay, I opened up to my spouse,

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Speaker 14: I opened up to my girlfriend, or I opened up

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Speaker 14: to my friends, and they they shut me down, or

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Speaker 14: they laughed it off, or they dismissed me, or you know,

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Speaker 14: I told her how I was feeling, and she seemed okay,

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Speaker 14: maybe she seemed a little uncomfortable in the moment that

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Speaker 14: I cried. And then three weeks later we got into

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Speaker 14: a fight and she turned it against me and she

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Speaker 14: threw it in my face. And so I think that unfortunately,

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Speaker 14: we are all unlearning a lot of these stereotypes. Women included,

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Speaker 14: are unlearning what it looks like for a man to

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Speaker 14: be a man, and what our expectations are and what

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Speaker 14: we want and how we reconcile those differences. If we're

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Speaker 14: wanting men to ship, then we're also having to recognize, like, oh,

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Speaker 14: my expectations and and what I've been socialized to expect

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Speaker 14: speets to show.

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Speaker 16: Hey, it's Mike d And this week on Movie Mike's

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Speaker 16: Movie podcast, I did a spoiler.

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Speaker 17: Free movie review of Mowana two.

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Speaker 16: I love me some animated Disney movies, and I know

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Speaker 16: I'm saying that as an adult male in his thirties,

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Speaker 16: but I broke down the entire movie. There have been

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Speaker 16: so many major movies coming out recently, so be sure

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Speaker 16: to subscribe to my podcast to hear more spoiler free reviews.

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Speaker 16: But right now here are my thoughts on ma Wana two.

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Speaker 16: Let's get into it now. A spoiler free review of

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Speaker 16: mo Wana. To the question I want to answer by

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Speaker 16: the end of this review is was it even necessary?

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Speaker 16: And yes, I know, I'm an adult man talking about

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Speaker 16: a movie primarily meant for kids, but it's a Disney movie.

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Speaker 17: It is important, so we're here to talk about it.

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Speaker 16: Pretty much, what this movie is about I hate to

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Speaker 16: say it, it's basically the same thing as the first one.

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Speaker 16: When it comes to the plotline, Mowana goes out on

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Speaker 16: another big adventure. This one is going to test her

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Speaker 16: levels of being a leader. Now somebody now who can

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Speaker 16: speak and communicate with the ocean to a whole new level.

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Speaker 16: Main problem I had it with this movie not just

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Speaker 16: that the story was very repetitive from the first one.

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Speaker 17: There's no real struggle. It kind of feels like.

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Speaker 16: The villain was a rehashed version of the villain from

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Speaker 16: the first movie.

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Speaker 17: It was the music.

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Speaker 16: The music was so important to Moana one, really so

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Speaker 16: important in.

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Speaker 17: Any Disney movie right now.

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Speaker 16: You need that one big song and Mawana you had

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Speaker 16: that song how Far I'll Go, which is a big

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Speaker 16: anthem from that movie. It is the character defining song

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Speaker 16: of Mowana. That is your hit from that Every Disney

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Speaker 16: musical movie needs that song to really resonate with kids,

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Speaker 16: to really drive this to be a movie that a

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Speaker 16: kid is gonna leave the theater and immediately want to

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Speaker 16: go watch it on Disney Plus, even though it isn't

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Speaker 16: available yet. You need that song to define your movie.

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Speaker 16: Mawana Io did not have that song. It didn't have

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Speaker 16: a how Far I'll Go. It didn't have a year Welcome,

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Speaker 16: which is another character defining song from Maui. It didn't

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Speaker 16: even have the shiny Thing song from one of the

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Speaker 16: villains in the first movie. There were no memorable songs

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Speaker 16: whatsoever in Mowana Too. And what I believe it comes

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Speaker 16: down to is that Linn Manuel Miranda was not a

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Speaker 16: part of this movie. He did not write the songs.

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Speaker 16: You have two new female writers who did all the music,

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Speaker 16: and they were really just given guidance from Lynn Manuel

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Speaker 16: Miranda before they started making the music for this movie.

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Speaker 16: He sat down with them and gave them the blueprint

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Speaker 16: of what he did on the first one and what

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Speaker 16: worked in that movie. And then they said he was

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Speaker 16: just a phone call or FaceTime away. So maybe they

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Speaker 16: used him with some guidance here and there, but you

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Speaker 16: really felt his presence missing in these songs because they

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Speaker 16: lacked originality, and it felt like they were given the

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Speaker 16: assignment of, hey, do what we did in the first movie,

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Speaker 16: channel your best Linn Manuel Miranda and create your own songs,

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Speaker 16: but you have to fit in this box. And what

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Speaker 16: happens when you do that? When it comes to music,

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Speaker 16: is you lose that creativity because you're just trying to

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Speaker 16: do an impression. You're trying to cover the songs from

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Speaker 16: the first one and make them your own. But you

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Speaker 16: don't have that say artists doing it, and you don't

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Speaker 16: have that originality. Because if Lynn Manuel Miranda was given

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Speaker 16: this movie and said, hey, let's see what you can

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Speaker 16: do here with all these new characters, with this new storyline,

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Speaker 16: what songs can you create? He's not gonna do exactly

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Speaker 16: what he did in the first one. He's gonna experiment

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Speaker 16: and do different things. And that is where you get

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Speaker 16: the better songs, not trying to do an impression of

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Speaker 16: what you did in the first one, but trying to

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Speaker 16: build upon it and create new songs. And you see

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Speaker 16: this happening in movies all the time. Whenever the Batman

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Speaker 16: movies lost Danny Elfman and they had to bring in

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Speaker 16: a new composer and say, hey, do what Danny Elfman

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Speaker 16: did and create these themes. You can't do it because

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Speaker 16: you're trying to do an impression of somebody. You're not

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Speaker 16: being original, and you're really not growing the.

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Speaker 17: Music in any way.

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Speaker 16: So I really felt out of everything that was really

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Speaker 16: what was lacking in this movie. The improvements I do

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Speaker 16: think they made was the animation style, and where this

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Speaker 16: movie looked the best was in the nighttime animation scenes.

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Speaker 16: I think on the water at night there was a

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Speaker 16: level of depth and the shading and the overall flow

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Speaker 16: of these characters. I think that is where this movie

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Speaker 16: really shined. And those action sequences, especially in that third act.

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Speaker 16: So maybe the story was kind of the same thing

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Speaker 16: over and over again. The music was kind of just

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Speaker 16: slapped together, but the animation really I thought was improved

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Speaker 16: from the first one, so I think at least Disney

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Speaker 16: is getting that right. Because even the comedy wasn't anything new.

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Speaker 16: It was really just rehashing some of the jokes from

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Speaker 16: the first one, which again I don't think kids are

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Speaker 16: really going to care about that, and the theater people

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Speaker 16: were still laughing as this movie went along. But I

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Speaker 16: think the main thing was we didn't really see a

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Speaker 16: whole lot of development from the character of Moljana from

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Speaker 16: one to two because she went through that entire journey

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Speaker 16: in one, and at the start of this movie it

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Speaker 16: almost felt like she was back at that point after

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Speaker 16: going through all those things and finding out all these

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Speaker 16: things about herself and being this really strong character. By

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Speaker 16: the end of one, it almost like she regressed a

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Speaker 16: little bit and was.

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Speaker 17: Learning all over again.

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Speaker 16: Instead, I would have liked to have seen her shine

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Speaker 16: more at the beginning of this movie. He has still

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Speaker 16: been given a test that she had to overcome and do.

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Speaker 16: What she set out to do was find this island

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Speaker 16: and connect her people with the rest of the world.

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Speaker 17: That still could have been a test. But I would

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Speaker 17: have liked to see her.

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Speaker 16: Be kind of a stronger leader in the beginning, because

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Speaker 16: I think that would have been more impactful to kids

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Speaker 16: of seeing like, oh, she learned something from the first one.

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Speaker 16: She has these leadership skills now that she has to

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Speaker 16: hone in and the struggles of being the leader, where

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Speaker 16: even though you are strong and have proven yourself, how

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Speaker 16: do you kind of advance on that. Instead, it was

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Speaker 16: kind of just her from the beginning again all over

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Speaker 16: and then trying to do what she did in the

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Speaker 16: first one. So I think you have to give the

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Speaker 16: kids like a stronger role model at the beginning and

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Speaker 16: show what comes with even though you have proven yourself,

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Speaker 16: how you have to do it again. I will say

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Speaker 16: as much crap as I give the Rock. He is

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Speaker 16: actually a really good voice actor. I think he should

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Speaker 16: stop doing live action movies and just do a voice

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Speaker 16: acting because he really shines as I think he really

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Speaker 16: gives it as all. You can see his inflections and

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Speaker 16: how much he puts a lot of his personal details

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Speaker 16: into Maui. I think he has a lot of fun

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Speaker 16: with it. It's probably also easier to fit into his schedule.

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Speaker 16: He can just get into a recording booth, lay some

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Speaker 16: lines down, and then get on his private jet and

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Speaker 16: go work out for ten hours or whatever he does

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00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 16: whatever causes him to be five twelve hours late to set.

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Speaker 16: I think he actually does really great work in voice acting.

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Speaker 16: Maui is his best character in the last ten years.

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Speaker 16: Why is Maui his best character in the last ten years.

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Speaker 16: It's because it's the only character that he portrays that

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00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 16: actually has depth, that actually goes through something, that actually

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Speaker 16: has ups and downs, and doesn't win all the time.

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Speaker 16: Maui loses fights. Mali also wins fights. Maui goes through

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Speaker 16: sad times. All his other characters in every other movie,

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Speaker 16: he's just the same thing over and over again, wins

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Speaker 16: every fight, doesn't get a scratch on him, faces no adversity.

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Speaker 16: Maui actually has that, so I think that is why

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Speaker 16: he's so attached to this character and why he's gonna

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Speaker 16: do it again in the live action movie. But I'm

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Speaker 16: not that excited for that. I think he should just

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Speaker 16: stick to doing more animated roles. So for Mawana too,

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Speaker 16: I don't think it was entirely necessary. I was even

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Speaker 16: at a two point five for a while, but there

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00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 16: was some clapping at the end of this movie, and

873
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 16: I think people did leave satisfied, and I saw a

874
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 16: lot of happy faces all around. So I think I

875
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 16: have to give it a point five just because I

876
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 16: am an adult talking about an animated movie meant for

877
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 16: a much younger demographic, and if they had a good time,

878
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 16: I think that is worth a point five boost. So

879
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 16: for ma Wana two, I give it three out of

880
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 16: five hooks.

881
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 8: Carrylone.

882
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 6: She's a queen talking.

883
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 8: He was sown you. She's getting really a.

884
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 5: Soul.

885
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 6: Just let it flo no one can do it.

886
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 8: Quiet Cary Line. It's time for Caroline. I just I

887
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 8: love being a dad. I love shape and and I

888
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 8: love it's I just think it's important for them to

889
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 8: see how I carry myself and what's important and how

890
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 8: I treat their mama and and just them the truth.

891
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 8: They're they're half crazy there. So we have a six

892
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 8: five twenty three year old and I'm just kind of

893
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 8: all about teaching them to grow up and be men.

894
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 9: How do you teach men in this world? I feel

895
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 9: like that's a lost art a little bit.

896
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 8: There's been so much people talk about you know, what's it?

897
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 8: Toxic masculinity is yes, And the worst thing you could

898
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 8: be is a is a man.

899
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 9: It's gone through a season where it's like being just

900
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 9: like a man's man is kind of like the worst truly,

901
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 9: the worst thing is And.

902
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 8: It's sad because I think that that's what we're supposed

903
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 8: to be. And I just I don't know, man. I

904
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 8: talked to him about every night we have storytell okay,

905
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 8: and it's I love it, a cherish it. And we'll

906
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 8: start off.

907
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 11: Got any questions, that's a great hit me with.

908
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,959
Speaker 8: Some and they'll ask me, you know, was Bigfoot real?

909
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 9: Well? Apparently he is real and lives at y'all's farm.

910
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 8: True.

911
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 9: I've seen footage video footage on your TikTok of the

912
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 9: Bigfoot in the wild.

913
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: Do your kids know? Have they?

914
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 9: Do? They still they know Bigfoot's real.

915
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 8: Yes, they know Bigfoot's real. Santa Claus is.

916
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 9: Real, everything's real. I love that tooth keep the magic going.

917
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 9: I feel the same way. That's so fun. Everyone needs

918
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 9: to check out Rodney's into his TikTok and dig a

919
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 9: little deep and you'll find the real sighting of Bigfoot.

920
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 8: He was there, man, it was a birthday party at

921
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 8: the farm and it was a blast. I was laughing

922
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 8: and sweating. God, it was hot. Bugs were burning in

923
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 8: the commitment. But yeah, we have story time, and I'll

924
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 8: start off with you got any questions, and then all

925
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 8: hearts and mind's clear, can we move on?

926
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 9: And then all you see you say that all hearts

927
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 9: and mind's clear.

928
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 8: Sometimes yeah, a lot of times, so are we good?

929
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 8: And then we'll move on to a lot of times

930
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 8: it'll be some little Bible story. Last night it was

931
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 8: what was it, Oh, the the Jericho and marching around

932
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 8: Joshua would And so we went through that for a

933
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 8: little bit, and then we'll go into some story. And

934
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 8: I try to tell stories that incorporate them in the

935
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 8: story that it's them going through some crazy adventure and

936
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 8: it's just a special time. And I'll make them lay still,

937
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 8: close your eyes, pictured in your head, and we do

938
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 8: it every single night. I love it.

939
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 9: That's amazing, it's fun. Why is being a dad so

940
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 9: important to you?

941
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 8: It's a responsibility. I mean, it's the most challenging and

942
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 8: most rewarding thing I've ever done, will ever do. It's

943
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 8: it's part of you, know what you leave behind, And

944
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 8: it's teaching them to be in service and connected, to

945
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 8: be more than just a good citizen, but to make

946
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 8: a difference. And I mean that's the future of everything.

947
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 8: I just I truly believe that. And how they see

948
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 8: me carry myself and live my life is the first

949
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 8: thing on my mind what I'm thinking about. And it

950
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 8: is cool because Rose is How do I explain Rose?

951
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 8: I say, she's she's kinder than she's tougher than life

952
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 8: and kinder than love. She's just what a.

953
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 9: Wonderful thing to say about your wife. Tougher than life

954
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 9: and kinder than love.

955
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 7: She is.

956
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 3: Oh, how has her love changed you? How has it?

957
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 9: How has it affected your heart and being married to her?

958
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 8: Man, I don't know if I do that.

959
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 9: Without crying.

960
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so sweet, Rodney, What a gift?

961
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 9: Having a love like that is also the biggest gift

962
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 9: you can have, exactly.

963
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 8: And for them to see that, I think that's so.

964
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 9: She's completely just metamorphosized you as a human with her love.

965
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's with her. It's when somebody loves you

966
00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 8: that way. You're vulnerable, but you're tougher than anything that

967
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 8: could ever come at you. At the same time because

968
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 8: you have that.

969
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,959
Speaker 9: Do you have a place to a soft place to land.

970
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're kind of fearless. Nothing else can hurt you.

971
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 8: Nobody on earth can hurt me, but her. I don't know.

972
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 8: Things fall into place when you when you see somebody

973
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 8: love you, and you just I just quit, I quit

974
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 8: listening to me about me and just trust her.

975
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 9: Oh okay, so what did you about you tell you?

976
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 9: And what does she tell you about you?

977
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 8: I mean, it's that golden rule thing about you know,

978
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 8: treat others how you want to be treated. But that's

979
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 8: I can't remember where I even got this from. Hit

980
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 8: me a long time ago about I wouldn't walk up

981
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 8: to you and I don't know, say awful things to you,

982
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 8: punch me in. I wouldn't force a gallon a whiskey

983
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 8: down your throat or large or you know, super double

984
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 8: large pizza just cram it down your throat. So I

985
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 8: don't know why people do it. You do it to yourself,

986
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 8: those things you say things to yourself.

987
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 9: Like bad self talk exactly. That's it. It took me

988
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 9: forever to even realize what self talk was. Like, I

989
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 9: didn't know that for a long time until I started

990
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 9: getting into therapy and self aware that, like I even

991
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 9: had bad self talk. And then when I realized it,

992
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 9: I'm like, man, I am an asshole to myself, Like

993
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 9: I am picking myself apart, I'm tearing myself down. I

994
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 9: don't believe in myself. It takes a lot to change that.

995
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 9: Did you have some pretty gnarly self talk?

996
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 8: I think so? Yeah. You know, I grew up, I

997
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 8: was adopted, and.

998
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 9: Your adoption story is so touching and it's such a journey.

999
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 9: I mean, that's a lot to go through as a kid, it's.

1000
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 8: But what it does to you is it makes you

1001
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 8: you deal with self worth and you're trying to overcome

1002
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 8: just abandonmenton that's your It's just a lot of self

1003
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 8: worth stuff. So you you beat the ship out of

1004
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 8: yourself over and over.

1005
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,640
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1006
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1007
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1008
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1009
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