1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy Wilson. So we have our second shipwreck story 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: and as many weeks, and the Batavia was not just 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: a shipwreck. It's a shipwreck and a mutiny and also 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: a massacre. So this perfect storm of nautical carnage. Yeah, 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. Yeah, as you were researching, 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Tracy would keeping some messages is like, this is crazy 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: because everything knew she would uncover would add another layer 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: of infanity to it. Yeah, it's it just escalates and escalates. 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: And there are a couple of notes that we're going 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: to just lay out in the beginning, and the first 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: is the names in this episode. So the main cast 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: of characters in the story came from what's now the 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Netherlands and Belgium. And at this point in history, the 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: Dutch didn't generally use surnames the way most of us 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: are used to today. Instead of established surnames that were 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: passed down through the family and stayed the same, people 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: had patronymic names which came from their father's first names. 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: So Adrian Jacobs, who was our ship's skipper was Jacob's 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: son Adrian, and his father would have been Yacob somebody 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: else's son. Uh. But then our ship's upper merchant um 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Francisco Pelser. He was from Antwerp, and he had a 24 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: more typical family surname that we would expect to see today, 25 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: which was Pelser. So for the sake of consistency, we're 26 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: just going to call everybody the equivalent of what their 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: surname was, because it gets a little confusing. The other 28 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: note is that you may notice as you are listening 29 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: to this episode and the next one, because the story 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: is so big, it's in two parts. Um. The number 31 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: of passengers and crew on the Ovat, these numbers don't 32 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: seem to quite add up all the time, and this 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 1: is because as the voyage went on, people were born, 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: other people died. Sometimes crew just went a wall. When 35 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: the ship would stop to take on supplies somewhere, people 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: would just decide they were done with this mess and 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: they would go away. Um. Even the starting number of 38 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: people on board is not totally clear because there were 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: some last minute no shows and people who just never 40 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: reported for duties. So if you're if you're doing the 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: math on this episode and you kind of go with 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: this numbers these don't You just don't sink that is why. 43 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: So today's episode is going to be about the first 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: part of the voyage, the shipwreck, and the rescue mission 45 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: that happened afterwards, and then our next episode will be 46 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: about sort of what happened to the survivors while their 47 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: bosses were away trying to get help. Ready, yeah, okay, 48 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: so this whole story starts with the Dutch East India 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: Company or in Dutch the verenegda Ostendesa Company. I practiced 50 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: that I probably still did not say it perfectly, So 51 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: we're just going to call them the v o C, 52 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: which is what that boils down to. So the v 53 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: C was dominating trade in the East Indies, which is 54 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: basically Indonesia and the surrounding islands in the seventeenth and 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: eighteenth centuries. It became this political and commercial powerhouse, and 56 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: it sent ships from the Netherlands to Asia to buy 57 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: things like spices and silk and then to return to 58 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Europe to sell them. And the v C was headquartered 59 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: in Batavia, which is what's now Jakarta in Indonesia. One 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: of the v o C s ships, which was also 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: called the Batavia, left Tessel Holland on its maiden voyage 62 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: to Batavia in October of sixty eight, and its cargo 63 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: included an enormous amount of silver and jewels. The ship 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: also carried materials for a gatehouse which was to be 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: built at v O C headquarters. In command of the 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Batavia was the upper Merchant, also called the Supercargo, and 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: this was a man named Francisco Pelsert, and he was 68 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: one of the most experienced merchants in the Dutch East 69 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: in the India Company's fleet. He was also very fond 70 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: of women and money, and at one point, sort of 71 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: extraneous to this story, set himself up as a money lender, 72 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: using company funds while charging people extremely steep interest. This 73 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: was something that was discovered after the end of the 74 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: Batavia's story, but it kind of clues you in to 75 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: a little about this man's character. Willing to misappropriate company funds, 76 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: that's no problem, right. Next in command was the ship's skipper, 77 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: Adrian Jacobs, who was a sea captain with more than 78 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: twenty years of experience, and he was in a rather 79 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: awkward leadership position because in any other nautical context he 80 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: would be the one ultimately in charge. However, on a 81 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: V O C ship he reported up to the upper merchant, 82 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: who was a merchant and not a seaman. This is 83 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: pretty much how things worked in most of the big 84 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: trading companies. You would have somebody who was ultimately in charge, 85 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: whose job was to safeguard the financial interests of the company. 86 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Everyone ultimately reported to this person, even though this person 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: did not necessarily know how to sail a ship. So 88 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: that led to some headbutting in many contexts, not just 89 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: this one. I imagine we have um several listeners at 90 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: the moment thinking that this is very similar to some 91 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: corporate cultures. Yeah, not ours, I'm happy to report, but 92 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: it does happen. I mean I've certainly been in companies 93 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: where the person in charge it doesn't really know how 94 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: anything works. Yeah. I attempt one time for a company 95 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: where there was somebody who was in charge of I 96 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: T who had a history degree and they had been 97 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: hired because he was a people manager. But the people 98 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: who were working in I found that very frustrating. So 99 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Jacobs and Pelser had actually sailed together before, and they 100 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: had never really gotten along, and their headbutting only got 101 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: worse after this incident, on a voyage where Pelser was 102 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: traveling as a guest, Jacobs had gotten extremely drunk and 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: insulted him in a very loud old way, and that 104 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: ship's upper merchant had given Jacobs a really public reprimand, 105 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: and Jacobs always blamed Pelsert for having gotten him dressed 106 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: down in front of everybody. Always a good relationship to 107 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: start along voyage with. Always good to blame other people 108 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: for your own behavior. Third in command was the under merchant, 109 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Uronymous Cornelis, who had very little experience at see and 110 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more about his backstory as 111 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: we go on, because it becomes really really relevant later 112 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: on in the tale. Yeah, his his story is is 113 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: really relevant to part two, So it's in part two 114 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: of the episode. Gotch So. Also on board the Batavia 115 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: were about three and forty other people, and about two 116 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: thirds of them were officers and crew of the ship. 117 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: They're also about a hundred soldiers along with some civilians 118 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: seeking passage to the Indies, and some of these were 119 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: women and children. These were mostly families of voc employees 120 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: or other people who were going to join their family 121 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: in the Indian ease and before we talk about the 122 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: voyage itself, shall we take a moment and talk about 123 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor, Capital Idea. And now we 124 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: will get back to the journey of the Batavia. The 125 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: Batavia left Tessil in a convoy of seven ships, but 126 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: at the very start of the voyage they went through 127 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: a huge storm in the North Sea and most of 128 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: the ships lost sight of each other. Only three of 129 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: them managed to find one another again. Once the weather 130 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: had improved, the Batavia, ass and dev and the Burin 131 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: sailed on together towards South Africa. These three ships made 132 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: really good time. They got to the Cape of Good 133 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: Hope an entire month ahead of schedule. But on board 134 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: the Batavia, the under merchant Cord Cornelis and the shipper 135 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: Yakubs started to conspire to commit mutiny um. They also 136 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 1: drew the ship's high Boson into their plot as well, 137 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: and so as the ship departed from South Africa, in 138 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: order to further their plan of mutiny, Jacobs deliberately steered 139 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: the ship away from the two remaining ones in the convoy, 140 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: and so the Batavia wounded up going on the rest 141 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: of its journey alone. And then during the last stretch 142 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: of the Batavia's route northward through the Indian Ocean, Upper 143 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: Merchant Pelser became seriously ill and had to be confined 144 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: to his cabin under the care of the surgeon Franz Yawns. 145 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: At this point, Jacobs and Cornelis put their plotting on hold. 146 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: They were kind of enjoying Pelsart's absence and biding their 147 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: time and waiting to see if he would just die 148 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: and leave the ship in their hands. They weren't sort 149 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: of an interesting attitude to have about it. They weren't 150 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: going to have to put the effort into staging a 151 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: mutiny if the you know, the Upper Merchant was just 152 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: gonna die. Yeah, it takes some work. Yeah, so uh 153 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: sadly thwarting their plans. Eventually, Pelser recovered, and when it 154 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: became clear that he was going to live, Jacobs and 155 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: Cornelis realized that they had wasted some time and getting 156 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: their whole mutiny plan off the ground. They hadn't recruited 157 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: an enough men to physically take over the ship from 158 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: the people who would be loyal to the Upper Merchant, 159 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: so they decided to have another ploy. They conspired to 160 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: have a wealthy female passenger named Lucretia Yawns or you 161 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: all also see her name as Lucretia Vandermilion, which was 162 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: her husband's last name. They conspired to have her sexually 163 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: assaulted by masked members of the crew, and Jans was 164 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: traveling to Batavia to join her husband, and her station 165 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: was high enough that she had one of the best 166 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: cabins on the ship and her own maid. And by 167 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: attacking someone so prominent, they hoped to lure Pulser into 168 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: punishing those responsible, which they hoped would trigger a revolt 169 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: among the rest of the Skipper's team. It seemed like 170 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: a sure thing after Jan said she recognized the voice 171 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: of one of her attackers and it was the high Bosen. 172 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: What a horrible plan. It was not a good plan 173 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: in in every possible respect it was. It was not 174 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: good to to plan to do that in the first place, 175 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: and also on top off of it being a terrible 176 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: thing to do, it didn't work. Uh. Pelser investigated the incident. 177 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: He we know he accepted her her assessment of who 178 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: had attacked her didn't punish anybody. Part of this is 179 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: because he was still pretty sick, even though he was 180 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: now recovering, and he also was starting to suspect that 181 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: maybe there was something bigger going on and he should 182 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: not get involved in it quite yet until he had 183 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: a better sense of exactly what was happening. Yes, so 184 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: he was kind of keeping his cards close to his vest, 185 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: so to speak. He didn't want to I didn't want 186 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: to incite the riot that he thought might be coming now. 187 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: But before they could come up with some of their 188 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: ploy to bring the Upper Merchant down, the mutineers plan 189 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: was spectacularly derailed because the ship was wrecked. Yes, before 190 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: we tell the story of the wreck, let's take another 191 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: moment for another word from our sponsor. Now back to 192 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: our story. On June four, a couple of hours before 193 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: Dawn Pelser, who would this point, was still not well. 194 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: He was in his bunk but awake. He felt a 195 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: quote rough, terrible movement, the bumping of the ship's rudder, 196 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: and then he felt the ships strike rocks so hard 197 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: that he was knocked out of his bunk. Because they 198 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: were not really anticipating that they were suddenly going to 199 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: run into land. They were traveling at full speed when 200 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: they struck this reef and huge waves and a bit 201 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: really heavy wind continued to just pound on the ship 202 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: and push it harder and harder against the rock. Pelser 203 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: ran on deck to see that there were breakers all 204 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: around them, and according to his journal, he said to 205 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: Yakubs skipper, what have you done that, through your reckless carelessness, 206 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: you have run this noise around our necks. The crew 207 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: really scrambled to try to lighten the ship. They threw 208 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: cannons overboard, they felt the masts, and they started sounding 209 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: the depths to try to find a way that they 210 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: might be able to work the ship back into deeper water. 211 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: But it was no use. The ship was stuck, and 212 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: on top of that, they really did know where they were. 213 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: This part of the sea was virtually uncharted by Europeans 214 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: at this point. And on top of all that, when 215 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: they felled the main mest of the ship, it came 216 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: down in a different direction than they were expecting, and 217 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: it crushed everything in its path all the way down. 218 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: So their effort to lighten the ship just broke it worse. 219 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: It was only after some discussion that Pelzer and Jacobs 220 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: decided they must be in the Hootman Abrolhos Islands, which 221 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: is a long chain of islands about forty kilometers off 222 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: the western coast of Australia. Their name comes from Portuguese abrojos, 223 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: or open eyes, and it got its name after the 224 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: Dutch East India Company vessel Door Direct stumbled upon them 225 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: about ten years earlier, and the crew believed that they 226 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: were in open ocean, and then suddenly reef and islands 227 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: were everywhere. And these islands are as you can imagine, 228 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: treacherous for ships. Uh more than sixty vessels are known 229 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: to have been lost among them, and at this point 230 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: in history Europeans had not explored or charted all of this, 231 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: and they're so far off the coast that they were 232 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: likely completely unexplored by Australia's Aboriginal people's as well. So 233 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: kind of just a big mystery danger sitting out there 234 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: in the ocean. Yeah, that's why they got that name 235 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: about keeping your eyes open. There's another collection of islands 236 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: off the coast of South America with the same name 237 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: for the same reason, like people venturing into them believing 238 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: they were in totally open ocean and then whoa, not 239 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: so much islands everywhere. So after the wreck, about a 240 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty people were removed from the ship and 241 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: taken away in boats. This included about thirty women and children, 242 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: and about seventy men stayed on board, including under merchant Cornelis. 243 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Most of the survivors made their way to an island 244 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: which was later named Beacon Island, while the commander of 245 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: the captain and about forty other men went to an 246 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: island that was nearer the shipwreck and that later came 247 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: to be known as Traders Island. But the party split 248 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: up this way. The majority of the survivors at this 249 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: point very panicked and in poor health from the length 250 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: of their journey. We're on an island by themselves, and 251 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: no one was really in charge. Yeah, you had basically 252 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: civilians and the rank and file crew off on an 253 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: island by themselves, with no leadership, no leadership, and on 254 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: top of that, no supplies. So the men who stayed 255 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: on board the Batavia, who were overall the sedy ist 256 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: and most disreputable of everyone on board, largely amused themselves 257 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: by drinking, plundering the ship's stores, looting things for themselves, 258 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: and attacking anybody who came to the ship to try 259 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: to salvage supplies from it. A delightful bunch. Uh. The 260 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: crew did manage to get some provisions off the ship, 261 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: but it was not enough to sustain them for very long, 262 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: and these islands were basically barren. There were some birds, 263 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: there were some fish, and there were some sea lions 264 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: that they could eat, but almost nothing in the way 265 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: of water or shelter. So it was more like they 266 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: were stuck on a big chunk of coral and rock, 267 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: just sticking out of the ocean. And because this larger 268 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: group of survivors just became more and more desperate as 269 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: time went on, the officers started to balk at the 270 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: idea of trying to get supplies from the ship to 271 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: the island where most of the survivors were. It started 272 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: to become really risky, like there was a genuine risk 273 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: that panicked survivors were going to mob the boat and 274 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: capsize it and possibly destroy the cargo or the boat 275 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: itself or kill the crew. So after a while it 276 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: was like, we're just we're just not gonna mess with 277 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: them on that island because we're scared of them. Just 278 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: keeps getting worse. I know, it's awful. There are so 279 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: many just callous and horrible moves made along the way 280 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: that it's it's hard to Yeah, you don't. There's not 281 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: really a lot of people to root for. The officers 282 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: debated at this point what to do, because staying where 283 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: they were seemed completely hopeless. Once the storms that had 284 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: driven them into the islands cleared, they didn't have a 285 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: source of fresh water unless it started raining again. Uh, 286 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: and they would need just enough to provide water without 287 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: threatening their lives. Or an equally unlikely scenario, if the 288 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: hull of the ship broke apart and the current happened 289 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: to carry all of the ship's stores directly to the islands. Uh, 290 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: they might get some relief. So what they did was 291 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: they decided to start scouting the islands and the mainland 292 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,119 Speaker 1: for sources of water. So Pelsert, most of the officers, 293 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: and some crew and passengers, including two women in a baby, 294 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: went searching for water. This wasn't really Pelsert's idea. He 295 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: was sort of feeling like at this point it was 296 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: his job to stay with the survivors and to die 297 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: with them if that was what happened. His job as 298 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: a per merchant also involved the responsibility for making sure 299 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: the cargo stayed safe, and so he was really reluctant 300 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: to leave it behind, like his priority was definitely more 301 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: on the cargo than the people in terms of his 302 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: job description. But some of the sailors were pretty set 303 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: on trying to save themselves at whatever cost, and so 304 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: ultimately he went with them in the ship's longboat. Forty 305 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: eight total people went to look for water while they 306 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: stayed behind. Pretty much the only senior officer that was 307 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: not among the scouting party was Eronymous Cornelis back aboard 308 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: the Batavia. Their four day search for water was fruitless, 309 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: and finally Pilsert decided that the only possible way that 310 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: they were going to get out of this smith was 311 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: to go to Batavia for help. So they took their 312 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: long boat, which was about thirty ft long, and they 313 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: crossed nine hundred nautical miles of the open Indian Ocean. 314 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: Imagine Australia on a map, so the Hootman Abrojo's Islands 315 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: are about halfway down the straight ish part of the 316 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: western coast of Australia. Batavia is in Indonesia, and in 317 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: between them is just this long expanse of the Indian Ocean, 318 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: and that is what they were crossing. Yat and a 319 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: long boat that had like ten pairs of oars. I 320 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: think there are some shipwreck and mutiny survival stories that 321 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: are that involved long ocean crossings and remarkably small craft 322 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: in this, but still the fact that there there were 323 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: just these, all these people packed in the boat, including 324 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: two women in a baby. This astounding to me. Uh So, 325 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: to cuttle this part of the long story short, they 326 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: made it. It took them thirty three days to get there. 327 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: When they did get there, after thirty three days across 328 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: the ocean open, they had less than two pints of 329 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: fresh water left. And once they got to Batavia, Pelsart 330 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: charged the ship's high boson for outrageous behavior before the wreck, 331 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: because remember he was implicated in the sexual assault of 332 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: a passenger and he was executed, and skipper Yakovs was 333 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: arrested for negligence in causing the wreck. Pelser gathered supplies 334 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: and bordered the yachts Ardem and they headed back to 335 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: find the survivors. It took them sixty three days to 336 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: find them again, so basically twice as long months and 337 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: months of misery. So a whole lot happened on the 338 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: island in this three month in between when Pelser left 339 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: and when he got back with help, and probably the 340 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: survivors didn't even know they were heading out across the 341 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: Indian Ocean to begin with. They had no idea, but 342 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: they were just there three months, not knowing what was 343 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: going believing they had been abandoned. And that is the 344 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: story that we're going to talk about in the next 345 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: episode because as I discovered as I was researching this 346 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: crazy story, but they get long and involved. They do 347 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: when you're taking a long boat across the Indian Ocean 348 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: and when there is a shipwreck and a mutiny and 349 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: a masker. So we're going to continue the mutiny and 350 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: massacre part of this story in our next episode. In 351 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: the meantime, do you have listener mail me to have 352 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: some listener mail. Our listener mail is actually two comments 353 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: from our Facebook page in response to our recent episode 354 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: about Crucifixion in the in Greece and Room. The first 355 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: is from Tony, and Tony says, kind of sad that 356 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: you continue to push the myth that Jesus existed. You 357 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: admit there is no contemporary account his quote life, but 358 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: revert to the Christian normative position that he was real 359 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: sad position for quote historians, and the other is from Susannah, 360 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: who says, considering that there's zero evidence outside of the 361 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: New Testament, which was assembled beginning one of the existence 362 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: of Christ at all, I find it difficult to buy 363 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: any allegations that he was crucified. So I responded to 364 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: both of these on our Facebook page. But this is 365 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: actually something that you and I talked about when we 366 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: were recording whether we should address because we talk about 367 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: Jesus in a couple of places in our episode on Crucifixion, 368 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: we don't really talk about like Jesus has a historical figure, Yeah, 369 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: because that really, I mean, while that we mentioned in 370 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: the episode that was the most famous one everyone knows about, 371 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: that really wasn't what the episode was about. It was 372 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: about the practice that was taboo but still very common. Right. 373 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: You kind of can't talk about that without at least 374 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: mentioning said Jesus elements. And the general consensus among modern 375 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: historians is that they're Jesus is a real person who lived. 376 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: That's pretty much the the general consensus of today's scholars 377 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: of history. There are some people who debate this idea 378 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: based on some of the things that these a couple 379 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: of people commented on our Facebook page. Uh. But my point, 380 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: in the point that I made several times, is that 381 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: this same exact trait like there are not there's not 382 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: a first person, eye witness account of Jesus written down 383 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: during his lifetime, right. That is the case for many 384 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: many figures in antiquity. Um and and So if you're 385 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: if your rule for deciding that a person is real, 386 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: if that's your standard for what you need to have 387 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: to believe that a person is real, you're discounting many, 388 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: many historical figures from Greece and room. You're also discounting 389 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: the entire histories of cultures that kept their histories oral 390 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: rather than writing them down. Yeah. That often we're written 391 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: down by later culture when they either had it relaid 392 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: to them or discovered some element of yeah, of that culture. 393 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: So you can't kind of erase anything just because there's 394 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: not a first person contemporary account for it. So if 395 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: you would like to write to us on this or 396 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: any other topic, you can. We're at History Podcast at 397 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: Discovery dot com. 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