1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: La Brega is back this season. We're spending time with 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: the people and symbols that represent Puerto Rico. We're proud 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Borricas and what does that mean? 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: And we're still terrified. 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: We're telling stories about champions from a place worth fighting for, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: stories that will inspire you no matter where you're from. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 3: Come wow, this is La Brega. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Campeones. Listen early and ad free with Fuluto. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: Plus the biggest pop star in the entire world is 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: Puerto Rican. 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Bad Bunny has been getting hotter and hotter. Puerto Rican 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: superstar Bad Bunny has been named the global Top Artist 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: for the Bad Bunny and the Grammy goes to Bad. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: Bunny and Bad Bunny knows all about life in Puerto Rico, 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: whether it's swerving from the potholes coping with blackouts across 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: the island. Bad Money is also familiar with a saying 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: that gets thrown around a lot on the island. 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: It's called La Brega. 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: It's a phrase that Borigua's use all the time, and 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: it's also the name of our own Futuro Studios hit podcast, 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: La Brega. The third season just came out and I 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: promise it's a must listen this season. Season three is 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: all about Gambiones Puerto Rican champions and about exploring what 24 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: it takes to represent the island. So to celebrate the 25 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: newest season, we're bringing you the latest episode in our 26 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: next drop. But first we just have to share the 27 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: iconic first episode of season one where it all started. 28 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: All right, now, I'm turning it over to Alana cassanoa burgess. 29 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: She's the host of La Brega. 30 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: A few months back, a friend sent me a photo 31 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: of a water truck in a pothole in Gaguas, Puerto Rico. 32 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: At first I thought it was photoshopped. The front half 33 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: of the truck was up in the air, wedged in 34 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: an enormous crater in the middle of the road. It 35 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: looked as if the asphalt had opened a gaping mouth 36 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: and was trying to swallow the truck. And then there 37 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: were the words on the back Agua potable water, the 38 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: a of Agua obscured by the pothole. The whole thing 39 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: seemed like a metaphor for the state of things in 40 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. It was a bit on the nose, and 41 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: then I saw the video. These are the things that happen. 42 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: Whoever was filming said at the back of the truck, 43 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: the water was pouring out of the hose into the 44 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: depths of the hole. It turns out that it was 45 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: on its way to a neighborhood that had been without 46 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: water for two weeks, and a broken water pipe was 47 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: responsible for the sinkhole. There's a lot happening here. A 48 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: truck filled with water tried to reach a community that 49 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: had been without it. Then that truck gets swallowed by 50 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: a hole in the road that was caused by a 51 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: broken water pipe. And lastly, as if adding insult to injury, 52 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: the water in the truck was lost to the potholes. 53 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: These are the things that happen. 54 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: You have to deal with that. You have to avoid 55 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: a pug hoole any day when you go to work, 56 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: when you go to the supermarket. 57 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: Jose Angel Santiago Rios, better known as CEO Santiago, runs 58 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: the social media accounts adopta Oyo adopt a Pothole. He 59 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: reposted the truck video on Instagram and we spoke over 60 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: Zoom recently. 61 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: You go anywhere, you're going to find a pool. Trust me, 62 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: trust me, trust me, trust me. 63 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: I can confirm a lot of Puerto Rican roads are 64 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: filled with craters. People on the island often joke about it, 65 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: comparing the roads to the surface of the moon. Ten 66 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: years ago, Cheo drove over one that rattled more than 67 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: his axle. It's the reason I wanted to start this 68 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: podcast with him, because if I'm going to explain to 69 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: you what laverega means, what it means for Puerto Rico, 70 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: I need an example, and Chao's Brega tells the story. 71 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Chao used to live in Miami. He was there for 72 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: nine years, working as a plumber, driving the same car 73 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: without issue for all that time. When he moved back 74 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: to the island in two thousand and nine, he even 75 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: had it shipped from Florida. 76 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: And when I start using my con ro Rigo, in 77 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 2: less than a jeer is damaged. 78 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Then came the pothole. A decade later, he he still 79 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: remembers where it was and what it looked like. He 80 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: was going from Gurabo to San Juan. It was a 81 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: monster of a pothole Denomona, maybe twenty inches wide and 82 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: six inches deep. It caused damage to his front axle. 83 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: He got it fixed for one hundred bucks or so 84 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: and then he found himself a week later on the 85 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: same stretch of road, passing the very same oyo. 86 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: I got the spray paint, white spray paint with me 87 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: in the car, and I stopped the car and go 88 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: walk to the pothole in the highway and the market 89 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: with white paint. Everybody hitting the same pothole with the 90 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: same damage. You know, just just too much money. 91 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: He posted the photo online and that Oyo was born 92 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven. Since then, he estimates he's painted over 93 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: a thousand potholes this way, tracing the jagged outline of 94 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: the crater and then straight lines like sun rays coming 95 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: out of it. And now other people do it too, 96 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: sending him photos and addresses from across the archipelago. The 97 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: idea is that the road crews will see the posts 98 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: online and go to repair the holes, but in austerity 99 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: stricken Puerto Rico, there's a lot that goes unrepaired or 100 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: poorly fixed. So the paint becomes a solution to the 101 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: problem in itself, helping drivers spot and avoid los oyos. 102 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: And the potholes are dangerous. 103 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: You can heat another car, you can lose control in 104 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: when you're driving. 105 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: You can lose a tire, your entire wheel can get 106 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: stuck in a crater. There are videos of this happens. 107 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: So as Aquilo Marca Akilo Marca. 108 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: And even when an encounter with a pothole doesn't seem 109 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: too bad. 110 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you don't get an accident or any damage. But 111 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: in a few days you're gonna you're gonna listen a 112 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: new sound in your courage, starting with noise. The card 113 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: isn't starting with noise in a few days. 114 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: The audio situation in Puerto Rico is one that you 115 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: just have to negotiate with or wrestle with. You can't 116 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: actually fix it, but you can cope. 117 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: But that's the brega in Puerto Rico. That's laverega. That's 118 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: lave rega and Puerto. 119 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Rico love rega. There's no perfect English translation for this 120 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: word that Puerto Ricans use all the time, in a 121 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: way no other Spanish speakers do. Cho says bragando is 122 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: like dealing with it. But there are other definitions too, 123 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: So as we were in production for this episode, we 124 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: asked Briquas for help describing it and got voice memos 125 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: from San Juan to queens. 126 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: When I hear or use la Brega. I'm referring to 127 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: the struggle, the struggles from Lucas in the hastle, a hassle. 128 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: La Brega has to deal with everyday life. 129 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: I call it. 130 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: Delmasia, determination, survival. 131 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: Work, always to do something in circumstances that don't. 132 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: Let you get ahead, grinding you know now what it means, 133 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 4: you need to do it. I commonly, usually when someone 134 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: asked me what are you up to or how are 135 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: you doing? 136 00:08:54,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm cruising along, searching, continually, searching for. 137 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 5: Something's okaseing our true Puerto Rican brilliance. 138 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: If you're a Bariqua and someone asks you how it's going, 139 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: how you're doing, you might say, ah YETU aquian Abrega 140 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: here making it work, you know, dealing with it in 141 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: the struggle. In the last year, as we've been coping 142 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: with this pandemic and with so much else, I've used 143 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: aquian Abrega more and more. How else could I answer 144 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: when someone asks how are you doing? There's an imbalance 145 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: of power when you're bregando, whether it's against your boss 146 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: or some larger injustice. It's an underdog's word. Abrega implies 147 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: a challenge. We can't really solve, so you have to 148 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: hustle to get around it. And in Puerto Rico there 149 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: are a lot of challenges that seem unsolvable. Puerto Ricans 150 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: are constantly regando with the jobs that don't pay enough, 151 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: the electricity that comes and goes, their kids' schools that 152 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: are closed, the broken traffic lights that never get fixed, 153 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: the hospital that doesn't get built, the government's debts that 154 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: aren't paid, the frustration over status, austerity, colonialism, and la 155 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: brega is a word that came to the States with 156 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: the diaspora who have had to find a way to 157 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: deal with a new language, to navigate somehow being immigrants 158 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: and citizens at the same time, to struggle with displacement 159 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: and discrimination. But it's not just about dealing with the problem. 160 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: It can also be finding a way to fight the system, 161 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: to get around it or somehow keep moving. There's an 162 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: edge of creativity too, It's like an art. 163 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 6: Some individuals are very good at. 164 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: Gallia di Echis is a Puerto Rican writer and scholar 165 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: and professor emeritus at Princeton. He's thought a lot about 166 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: the way we use la brega, peppering it into our language, 167 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: even complimenting each other for struggling. 168 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting the expression asiago wigan. 169 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 6: I mean, we admire the way that she dealt with 170 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 6: the situation because it was so difficult. 171 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: Some twenty years ago, he published an influential essay called 172 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: de Como ikuando Brega. The essay used the language of 173 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: la Brega as a lens to understand Puerto Rican history 174 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: and politics and identity, basically arguing that there's something about 175 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: this word that unlocks a lot about who we are. 176 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: I think it's so profound and so frequently used that 177 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: we must go back a long long time. 178 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans are always in la brega, vulnerable and alert, 179 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: he wrote. Then the English word he thinks comes closest 180 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: is grapple. 181 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 6: La brega means that you have to invent, you have 182 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 6: to use what you have, and to pay attention to others. 183 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: And it's not an easy tour. 184 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: We'll be back. 185 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: I don't want to contribute to a self celebratory idea 186 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: of leave rega. There are many things to celebrate, but 187 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: we also have to recognize that there are failures. 188 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: More about what it means to Beregard. 189 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 5: After this break, there's a lot going on right now, 190 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 5: mounting economic inequality, threats to democracy, environmental disaster, the sour 191 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 5: stench of chaos. 192 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: In the air. 193 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: I'm Brook Gladstone, host of WNYC's On the Media. Want 194 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 5: to understand the reasons and the meanings of the narratives 195 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 5: that let us hear and maybe had to head. 196 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: Them off at the pass. 197 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 5: That's on the media's specialty. 198 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: Take a listen wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, we're back. 199 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: In the last few years there have been even more 200 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: memorable examples of Puerto Ricans in la brega. I think 201 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: often about a video I saw after Maria of a 202 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: woman in Bayamon showing off her dad's. 203 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 7: Invention, laandola bes. 204 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: A washing machine with bicycle handlebars attached so you could 205 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: spin it by hand even without electricity. 206 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 7: Mal Laura Guess, And I think about how after Maria, 207 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 7: communities came together, all the networks that were formed to 208 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 7: meet the needs that weren't being met in a desperate 209 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 7: situation obrega collecti. 210 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 6: They could not wait for the state to do it, 211 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 6: or the state failed in many cases. 212 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: And this is where labrega becomes a concept that can 213 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: be nauseating. Why do we take pride in negotiating, in hustling, 214 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: in putting up with how things are going, with the flow. 215 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: What does it say about us that we are so 216 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: often pragmatic, that that's our go to? And above all, 217 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: what does it say that we have a society and 218 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: a government that requires us to be in labrega all 219 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: the time. 220 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to contribute to a self celebratory idea 221 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: of lavrega. There are many things to celebrate, but we 222 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: also have to recognize that there are failures, and we 223 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: have to acknowledge that pragmatism is helpful in some situations 224 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: and not in others. 225 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: In the long, long months after Maria, when some Puerto 226 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: Ricans were without power for a whole year, we heard 227 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: a lot about resilience. Puerto Ricans resilience on display, and 228 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: I see. 229 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: The plight of the Puerto Rican people. 230 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: They're very resilient, such resilient, tremendously resilient, so much so 231 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: that there was a backlash against that word. It was 232 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: as though Puerto Ricans were being congratulated for being able 233 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: to put up with so much, even as aid and 234 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: recovery was being denied. This came up with Cio Santiago 235 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: from a adopt a pothole too. We shouldn't always have 236 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: to be in Nabrega patching up potholes instead of actually 237 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: repairing them. And yet he keeps painting the ojos and 238 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: posting them because he's hopeful that the effort helps people. 239 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: It might even save them. Think of it as an 240 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: act of solidarity of citizenship. That's part of La Brega too. 241 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: As I was producing this episode thinking about potholes, there 242 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: was actually breaking pothole news. Former Governor Ricardo rosse Jov 243 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: spoke to The New York Times, his first public interview 244 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: since the summer of twenty nineteen, when he resigned and 245 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: left the island after thousands of people protested relentlessly demanding 246 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: he leave office. It was during those protests he claimed 247 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: in this new interview that his car had hit a 248 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: huge pothole. His five year old daughter thought it was 249 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: a gunshot, and he says it was that the pothole 250 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: incident and his daughter's reaction that got him to resign, 251 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: not because he heard the demands of an outraged public. 252 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: Puerto Rican twitter exploded with memes of potholes protesting the 253 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: former governor. Or asphalt taunting him. There was one of 254 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: a creator photoshopped on to chiga Vada's face, a revolutionary pothole. 255 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: Twitter was roasting Rosello, but the memes were also pointing 256 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: to the twisted irony that the governor was panicked at 257 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: something Puerto Ricans deal with every day and something his 258 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: administration was responsible for fixing. At Gadio has been thinking 259 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: about those outraged people who went into the streets to 260 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: march against the governor, Los in dignalos and what happens 261 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: when people see their power. 262 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 4: But just look at so many young people, so many 263 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: and every day and so vibrant. What it meant to 264 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 4: me was that there was a need reserve of energy 265 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: and thought and moral conviction there. You know, it's there, 266 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: It's there, and it was such a joy to see 267 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 4: that it's there. We can imagine a different plot, a 268 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: different ending. Yeah, that doesn't mean we will succeed, but 269 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 4: we can imagine in spite of the harshness of the real. 270 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: That's La Brega collectiva and the individual. 271 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: Too, for our Gallio. That's part of La Brega imagining 272 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: a better reality together. This series is an anthology about 273 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Each episode opens a door to a different 274 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: aspect of the Puerto Rican experience. Our Brega. It's about 275 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: our history and our present. In many ways, it's about 276 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: colonialism and about what it means to be a people. 277 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: And the reason we decided to make this series is 278 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: that since Hurricane Maria hit, media around the state started 279 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: paying more attention to Puerto Rico, but many of the 280 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: conversations centered around US politicians or if we could or 281 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: should be admitted as the fifty first state of the Union. 282 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Those conversations didn't really focus on us, and so in 283 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: this series we start with the principle that we deserve 284 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: to hear stories about ourselves and how we got here, 285 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 1: which is why every episode is in two languages, so 286 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: we don't leave anyone out, either on the island or 287 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: in the diaspora. From Futuro Studios, I'm Alana Casanova Burgess 288 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: and this is La Brega. 289 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: That was episode one of season one of La Brega, 290 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 3: the very first episode that started it all. On our 291 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: next Latino USA podcast episode, we're going to bring you 292 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: the premiere of La Brega season three, and if you 293 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: don't want to wait, go to La Brega gampions feed 294 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: and listen because it's out now. And if you're a 295 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: fan of La Brega and you want to binge the 296 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: whole season right now, you can do so by becoming 297 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: a member of Futuroplas and you'll get to listen to 298 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: it all ad free right now. Just click the link 299 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: in the episode description and here are the original credits 300 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: from this episode, which was released originally in twenty twenty one. 301 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Labrega's production team includes Marlon Bishop, Es Sequel, Rodrigue Sandino, 302 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Mark Pagan, Victor Ramos, Luis Trees, Stephanie Lebau, Alisha ba YouTube, 303 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Lia Shaw, Damren Rosanna Cavan, and Gabriel La Bayez. Original 304 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: music for La Brega was composed by bal N and 305 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: our theme song is by Ivee. Leadership support for Labrega 306 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: is provided by the Jonathan Logan Family Foundation and the 307 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: john S and James L. Knight Foundation, with additional support 308 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: provided by Amy liss Astaxima. 309 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: This episode was adapted by senior producer Nicole Rothwell and 310 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: producer Renaldo Leanos Junior. It was mixed by Stephanie Lebau, 311 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: Julia Caruso and j. J. Carubin. Nancy Trujillo is our 312 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: production manager. Fernando Echarari is our managing editor. 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