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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Brio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Stanley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Balley Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on a

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. Well, let's do it live on a Tuesday

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Speaker 1: edition merely Bow and a freshly slicked up Z. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know. I know you warned me, but

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Speaker 1: I even walking in here, I had forgotten. I don't

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Speaker 1: I didn't have anything going on this weekend, but I

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Speaker 1: just if I just don't. I was not prepared. What

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Speaker 1: do you think. I love it. You've a fantastic Punham.

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Speaker 1: I loved you. I loved you bearded though too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my kids, I don't think I'll be happy. Kaala wanted

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Speaker 1: to just change it up for a little bit, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a mix up. I just said, I

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Speaker 1: looked you younger. It's going to do that? Was like,

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Speaker 1: that's good with with bodily hair, mix it up from

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I don't just leave it that

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Speaker 1: same theory. Yeah, I would have been fine leaving it.

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Speaker 1: It does feel it feels good. I feel fast. I

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Speaker 1: feel like Yeah, I could see like if swimmer Nate

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Speaker 1: the little drag on the beard, right, no doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so good, you look great. Man had a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: How about that weekend with from a weather standpoint, was

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Speaker 1: that amazing? Yesterday was unbelievable, awesome, took the We had

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Speaker 1: a nice walk outside yesterday. It was great. It was

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Speaker 1: kind of like the cap to our anniversary week art

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Speaker 1: and stronger than Ever. I was stronger than ever. Arden

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Speaker 1: debuted in Footloose on Friday. Saw her Friday Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: that was great. They did a great job with that.

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Speaker 1: So shout out to the Hocking Player's Society for crushing

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Speaker 1: that same story as the movie. Yeah, basically the same optics. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who got to be the big bad? Who got to

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Speaker 1: be the Preacher? The Preacher was this kid who he

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Speaker 1: was incredible? Yeah, because he was kind of terrifying on

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Speaker 1: And then after the show he came out and he

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Speaker 1: and he seemed like this nice young man. It's called

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Speaker 1: acting acting brilliant, but he was great. I mean to

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Speaker 1: transformation that he did. And it wasn't from makeup. It's

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Speaker 1: just the way that he kind of carried his body.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, which was I was very impressed by. And

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Speaker 1: then on on Sunday, I had a moment that I've

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Speaker 1: been dreading for fourteen years and about ten months, I

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Speaker 1: hosted Arden's boyfriend, oh boy for dinner. Okay, I made

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Speaker 1: a bowl in the A's that was delicious. Dare I

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Speaker 1: say that you were both And he's Italian and he oh,

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Speaker 1: his grandmother makes you know, the sauce in the house

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Speaker 1: and and Uh in the family and he said that

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Speaker 1: this was he put me in the same rare, which

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Speaker 1: honest againness couldn't have been nicer, sure, fantastic play sports smart,

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Speaker 1: time where you're like, yeah, of course, what's your intent son?

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Speaker 1: It's like fifty and sonny, I mean we played hoops.

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Speaker 1: It felt like April. It was to me. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: believe that spring is right around the corner, and that

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Speaker 1: Buddy Garretty And it was an entire different walk experience

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Speaker 1: And then I started thinking Buddy, almost like as a child, like,

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Speaker 1: was a debacle. There's no no quick fix there. Coach

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Speaker 1: there's the garage smelled for months. You got two of them,

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Speaker 1: minute of it. Jerry. We've got some news, actual news,

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Speaker 1: quite a bit our great friends. Special Teams coordinator Mike

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Speaker 1: Priefer has been relieved of his duties. Kevin Stefanski with

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Speaker 1: this statement this morning. I appreciate everything prief has done

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Speaker 1: for this team in his three seasons. Is my Special

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Speaker 1: Teams coordinator, but I have decided to move in another

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Speaker 1: the city will forever be grateful for the job he

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Speaker 1: did as acting head coach in our AFC wildcard win

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Speaker 1: and for all his contributions while leading the Brown Special

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Speaker 1: Teams units for the past four seasons. We wish Prief

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Speaker 1: the best with his next opportunity. He is near and

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Speaker 1: dear to our heart. Yes, we love him. He was

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Speaker 1: in here a lot. He's he's a naval man, which

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Speaker 1: I mean it really sucks. I get it. I understand it.

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Speaker 1: that this morning. Yeah, because it's it's sad. And the

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Speaker 1: like if you're reading between the tea leaves that the

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Speaker 1: Colts have Avenue head coach. Yeah, Bubba Ventrone who played

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Speaker 1: But tough man, honestly goodness, tough, like really really really

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Speaker 1: them that? Did you see the I sent it to you.

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Speaker 1: There's the meme where it's the Spider Man with like

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Speaker 1: the fuzzy glasses he's looking he can't really see and

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Speaker 1: it's like Steph Curry and then he puts the glasses

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Speaker 1: on it and it's the miz and Steph Curry is

428
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Speaker 1: liking his Instagram posts and like responding to it. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what is going on right now? Crazy? Crazy moment he

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Speaker 1: had and ended a lot because of the way that

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Speaker 1: they played. He had really no impact on the game

432
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Speaker 1: because of the way he was on the team. He

433
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Speaker 1: couldn't get the ball, he can't do anything. Um, the

434
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Speaker 1: guy who's trying me nuts, and yet he won it.

435
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Speaker 1: He won the night. He won the night in one

436
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Speaker 1: moment in a way that nobody else could. And awesome.

437
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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable and it made me so happy for him.

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Speaker 1: It made me watch the stupid thing because he was

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Speaker 1: in it because I was curious how he would do.

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Speaker 1: And he gave you the moment to see how it

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Speaker 1: would come. He gave you the moment. He rewarded your

442
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Speaker 1: your patience, your diligence, and it gave you the moment

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Speaker 1: to just to make it happen. An I could be

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Speaker 1: happier for him. Awesome, Yeah, it was good. A couple

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Speaker 1: more notes from the Animal Warden Yep, just SUSA to SUSA.

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Speaker 1: If you see a skunk, just stop, walk backwards in

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Speaker 1: a way slowly they get away from it. They only

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Speaker 1: spray in imminent danger. Okay, good note. So if someone

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Speaker 1: is ten feet away, they're okay. Just don't keep approaching it, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right? In all caps. Don't walk a dog with

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Speaker 1: a retractable leash. Yeah I don't. I don't do that anyway.

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Speaker 1: Keep on his short lease, especially at dusk and dawn hours.

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Speaker 1: When letting out at night or in the morning. Don't

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Speaker 1: let the pup run free. Turn on the lights, give

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Speaker 1: a quick scope. Yeah, I'm on. I do that anyway.

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Speaker 1: So it's good. Those are good. These are all good notes,

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Speaker 1: and said, here's the other issue right now, is mating

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Speaker 1: season for stunks not great? All right, so we gotta yeah,

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Speaker 1: does he do skunk eradication? Now, well, he's the animal warden,

460
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Speaker 1: So there has to be some kind of you gotta

461
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Speaker 1: be something we need to be able to. Can't and there, yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: you can't. Legend legendary guy come over because we had this.

463
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Speaker 1: We had him a couple of years. A couple of

464
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Speaker 1: summers ago. There was a couple of them that were

465
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Speaker 1: cruising around and um, guy came out and he's like,

466
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Speaker 1: if you want me to, we can get rid of this,

467
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Speaker 1: but you're not gonna like the way it looks. It

468
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Speaker 1: was basically a series of box traps to to that

469
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Speaker 1: you had to be throughout the yard. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I really don't care how it looks. And then somehow

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Speaker 1: it went away. But I mean I remember going down

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Speaker 1: the road of like a series of elaborate traps to

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Speaker 1: get the thing out of the man awful pess. By

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Speaker 1: the way, not even a cut, not even a comment

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Speaker 1: for this the first It's gorgeous. I'm so taken by

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Speaker 1: your face, your p them slicked. I just wasn't ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna use I'm bring it out at the combine.

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Speaker 1: I'll bring it the combine. Then, yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it on until I was anyone. I

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Speaker 1: have it in my house when I was like clean

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Speaker 1: in this morning, so I put it on right when

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Speaker 1: I got in the car. I took it off to

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Speaker 1: work out. I took it off while I ate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then now it's on. I'm nervous to wash it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I was worried about like, yeah, I would

486
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Speaker 1: so I don't know, but it's gonna it'll get run

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Speaker 1: out next week at the combine for Provide. We're all there.

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Speaker 1: That's that's all. It looked looked great for you and

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Speaker 1: I walking in in Unison. Maybe gibby'll finally wear his.

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Speaker 1: Which are you gonna wear it at the combine? I

491
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Speaker 1: usually tend to. You can usually go like the polo

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Speaker 1: and nice pants. So where wear it over the polo?

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Speaker 1: Over the polo? Which is a look I like. I

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Speaker 1: see a lot of people doing it, a lot of

495
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Speaker 1: the the JT justin Thomas. Now, it's not that I

496
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Speaker 1: don't love the sweatshirt. Yeah, I wear the sweatshirt. I've

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Speaker 1: worn the sweatshirt twice out and about and had many

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Speaker 1: people sure, yeah, that's an attension here. Here's the problem

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Speaker 1: with white or cream or anything. But it's a cream.

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Speaker 1: It's a cream. My issue is I like to wear

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Speaker 1: my food. Well, well you don't. I just said you

502
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Speaker 1: take it off. You gotta take it off to eat?

503
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Speaker 1: Take it off? Yeah, I mean that's yeah, depending on

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Speaker 1: the shirt underneath, might not. It might be better off

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Speaker 1: for the world if I just kept it off. Well

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Speaker 1: you got you get weard. It's the combine got to

507
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Speaker 1: have to come on, it's got to get sorted out,

508
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Speaker 1: sorted out. Um, all right, we will go around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: hitting my coach is gonna make a crazy sound. I

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Speaker 1: thought that was a good one. Sounded like a cat

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Speaker 1: that was like hit by an electrical occurrence. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it was like that that was good Today.

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Speaker 1: Is I'm gonna come with a good chicken later? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. We'll see you. You probably more experience. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm very familiar. If they're operations see what you think

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Speaker 1: of it. The hens have a different sound than the roosters.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who I am. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: like cockadoodle do that's the rooster guy. Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give like more of a buck buck buggirk type of

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Speaker 1: thing of it. That's kind of know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little more of that. That's it. Well, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see you think see all right, I'll judge it

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Speaker 1: coming your way in approximately one you'll get that then

534
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Speaker 1: as we go around. The NFL franchise take window officially

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Speaker 1: opens today runs through March seventh, so this is when

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Speaker 1: you can start doing it. You won't see any I

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Speaker 1: don't think you'll see any real tags today. You'll see

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Speaker 1: this is things don't work out. Among the names are

539
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Speaker 1: big Ones, Lamar Jackson, Daniel Jones, Geno Smith, Orlando brown

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Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley is up as well. The numbers um

541
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Speaker 1: yes about the linebacker is the most expensive because they

542
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Speaker 1: must be lumping in the outside outside linebackers, backers, and

543
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Speaker 1: three fours. Look at the defensive tackle up to nineteen

544
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Speaker 1: million right now. The best if you have a tight

545
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Speaker 1: end that's a good value. Safety is a pretty good

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Speaker 1: value as well. Yeah, and is it that? What did

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Speaker 1: I see about? The exclusive number on quarterbacks is like

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Speaker 1: forty five? Yeah, so what does that mean? Exclusive? That's

549
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Speaker 1: the one where they have to give you like two

550
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Speaker 1: first rounders or whatever so you can take any more. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's what Lamar would be in that world, I

552
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Speaker 1: would think, right, he's I don't know what's going to

553
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: happen with it. There are so many dominoes that are

554
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Speaker 1: going to fall all of a sudden at this quarterback position.

555
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Speaker 1: I think I think this is going to be a

556
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Speaker 1: wild offseason of quarterback movement. So when do you think

557
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: it needs to start being done by? Like are we

558
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Speaker 1: gonna get stuff next week? I don't know. Didn't you

559
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Speaker 1: see cars? And that's the next note on this is

560
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Speaker 1: that David Carr, the brother of Derek, who I imagine

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Speaker 1: has a good source. Just like we just sourced some news, right,

562
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Speaker 1: I wish we could actually source it, but we act

563
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Speaker 1: the person himself. There's been other instances in history where

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Speaker 1: we've had that properly sourced and again zip it. Yeah,

565
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Speaker 1: but I heard it from the person. No, he literally

566
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Speaker 1: said it to me to me, Yeah, along with some

567
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Speaker 1: other things anyway, David saying it's going to be a

568
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Speaker 1: long process for his younger brother, despite Derek receiving high

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Speaker 1: interest from the Jets and other teams. So I don't

570
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Speaker 1: know why he would want to take his time. To me,

571
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Speaker 1: you'd want to get this deal done. If you're Derek

572
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Speaker 1: car you were in a unique position to get this

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Speaker 1: done prior to the starter free agency, so that all

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Speaker 1: of the available money is out there, right, Yeah, you

575
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Speaker 1: want to be the first person to sign so you

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Speaker 1: can lock in. They won't be able to pay you

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Speaker 1: probably until that happens, right. I think it's I think

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Speaker 1: it's when he says long or it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a long process. I think what he's the way I

580
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Speaker 1: read it was it's not going to be tomorrow, but

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Speaker 1: it'll be. It's gonna be in the next two weeks.

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Speaker 1: It has to be. And I think that there are

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Speaker 1: really kind of two different pursuits that are happening here,

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Speaker 1: the Derek Carr pursuit. Just think about this. When's the

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Speaker 1: last time a Pro Bowl quarterback came to a true

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Speaker 1: free market. I mean Brady did, but it was that

587
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Speaker 1: was a different circumstance. Like Cousins is probably the last one.

588
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Speaker 1: It was a true free agent that played out his cap,

589
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Speaker 1: his his franchise tags, and was a true free agent.

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Speaker 1: Like to have a starting NFL Pro Bowl caliber quarterback

591
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Speaker 1: be available for no cost to you. That doesn't happen

592
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Speaker 1: very often. Cousins is the last one I could remember.

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Speaker 1: It's wild that came to market totally free. So there

594
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Speaker 1: are going to be teams, whether it's the Jets and

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Speaker 1: I thinking of all those teams in the in the

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Speaker 1: NFC South, who look at Derek Carr and say, Derek Carr,

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Speaker 1: what is he thirty thirty two somewhere in there twenty

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Speaker 1: fourteen draft. Okay, so he's probably thirty three, yeah this

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Speaker 1: full way there, Yeah, yeah, twenty two, so it'll call

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Speaker 1: him thirty one, yeah somewhere in there. So he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have There are gonna be teams that look at him

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Speaker 1: and go, we can have Derek Carr for nothing in

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Speaker 1: terms of assets, for for for nothing for the next

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Speaker 1: five years. And what what does that get us? Does

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Speaker 1: that get us what let's use Cousins. Does that get

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Speaker 1: us what Minnesota has been the last five six years

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Speaker 1: For many teams, that's a big win. That's winning the

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Speaker 1: NFC South. If you put him on one of those teams,

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00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: he'd be the best quarterback in the division. You win

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Speaker 1: the division, you can win a I mean they want

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Speaker 1: a playoff game in Minnesota with cousins, Like it's all.

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Speaker 1: If you want to just use that as a doppelganger,

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Speaker 1: then there are going to be other places that say,

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Speaker 1: with a quarterback, we can go win a super Bowl yep,

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00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: and that quarterback might be Aaron Rodgers yep. And we

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Speaker 1: will give up first round picks in order to get

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Speaker 1: that window, which is the Stafford Rams window. So I

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of And then you mention the

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Speaker 1: other dominoes, the Lamar domino in this whatever the Bears

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Speaker 1: do at the top of the draft, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: going on. Good Derek car though, I feel like you

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Speaker 1: could even say he could be Stafford Ish at this

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Speaker 1: stage in his career when he was good. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he could be in the Afcno in the NFC though,

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00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: I think you could definitely see him taking the team

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Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. He turns thirty two on March

627
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Speaker 1: the twenty eighth. He turns thirty two. He Derek Carr

628
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Speaker 1: has played with I was reading something about it. So,

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Speaker 1: he's a four time Pro bowler, he has played with

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Speaker 1: in his career the worst dvo A defense and special

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Speaker 1: teams of like any quarterback ever. I believe that. So

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Speaker 1: I think he's unfairly judged by how awkward he was

633
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Speaker 1: on Hard knocks. He is a strange guy. I think

634
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: people saw him on hard Knocks and went, this is

635
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: a weird dude, a different dude, different way of going

636
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: about his business and so, and I think he's held

637
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: back by that. And I think it's also you mentioned

638
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: four time Pro bowler in the AFC. Yeah, I mean

639
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: that's where all the quarterback talent has been prior to

640
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: this last season, which was not great for him. Prior

641
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: to this last season, he had five straight years where

642
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: he completed at least sixty seven point three percent of

643
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: his passes through for more than four thousand yards through

644
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: for more than averaged over well over twenty touchdowns, averaged

645
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: about maybe ten interceptions per year, and had a quarterback

646
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: rating that was right around one hundred for five straight seasons.

647
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: He did that. Yeah, that's a track record, man, Like

648
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: he can play, That's what I'm saying. Like, if he's

649
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: in the NFC, that's and it's a team that's a

650
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: quarterback away in the NFC, you're a contender. Yeah, you know,

651
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: wherever that may be. I don't know if that's in

652
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: the one of those NFC South teams. Is that Washington?

653
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: Is it the Giants if they don't do something with

654
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: Dan Dimes. Yeah, the NFCS is the toughest division to

655
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: go into a bar. But if you can get to this,

656
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: like you said, to your point, the South, you have

657
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: a chance to really, I think, be good pretty quickly.

658
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: I think the Saints would be an intriguing play landing

659
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: spot for him. Um, I still think at Land is

660
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: a great landing spot for Lamar Jackson. Go ahead and

661
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: get him right out of the AFC and get him

662
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: down there. I think that he would That would fit

663
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: well with what they do down there. Yeah, it's gonna

664
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: be interesting if I'm a quarterback. Yeah, I want to

665
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: go to the bites at the Apple and I want

666
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: swings at the plate. For all the analogies, which means

667
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: getting into the playoffs. Your path through the playoffs is

668
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: significantly easier in the NFC than it is the A.

669
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: The period end of story, hard stop, like not even close,

670
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: not close, right, So, but that those are the I

671
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: think you'll you'll get a feeling on this next week

672
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: at the combine. We'll get a feeling on a lot

673
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: of this stuff. A couple of the coaching updates. The

674
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: Enemy officially agreed to terms as the offensive coordinator and

675
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: assistant head coach in Washington. The Colts expected to name

676
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter their new offensive coordinator. Great name, best name.

677
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's huge, weird for a name like that

678
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: to go from Jacksonville to Indie. Feels like Jacksonvill's started it.

679
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: He was in Detroit, right, Yeah, he definitely was. Charges

680
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: are promoting Derek Ainsley Annsley as their new defensive coordinator.

681
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: Tom Pella sero. So uh. The last item here on

682
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: this Around the NFL and then around the sports world landscape.

683
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Saturday night, I had what has become a very unique

684
00:35:53,280 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: sports experience, one where I saw something live that was stunning, shocking,

685
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: wonderful and did not see it coming in any way,

686
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: shape or form. I don't know even know how I

687
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: stumbled onto it. It was nobody saw it coming. The

688
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: boys had gone to bed. I didn't. And it's funny

689
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: because I was last week I think you and I

690
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: were talking about this. I didn't even know who the

691
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: four people were in the dunk contest except for Kenny

692
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: Martin Junior only because I knew his dad, right. I

693
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: didn't even know there was a Kenyan Martin junior. Same that,

694
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know who existed. And I just happened to

695
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: let's see where they are on All Star Saturday Night. Yep,

696
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: And I turned it on and mc McClung goes forth,

697
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: which leads me to go to, who the hell is this?

698
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: Who's this guy? Who's Matt McClung. So I get in

699
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: and I'm looking in Yeah, okay, all time leading high

700
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: school scorer Virginia, played at Georgetown, played at Texas Tech,

701
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: Gee League guy, played two games for the Sixers, Like,

702
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: who is this guy? And then he proceeded to give

703
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: me one of the most unique sports moments of just

704
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: an explosion onto this that you did not see coming.

705
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: I had no clue he could do anything. I mean,

706
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: no idea, Adam, you have no idea. And by the way,

707
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: his resume, I don't even resentd He was the only

708
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: thing that maybe kind of I would say, tipped me off,

709
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: is that you just read his resume, and that doesn't

710
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: feel like you should be allowed to be in the

711
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: NBA Slam Dunk contest with that resume. Somebody's in it.

712
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: So I just thought, well, just needed warm bodies to

713
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: be in the thing. He had to be pretty so yeah,

714
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: upon further inspection, he's known to for this, Like apparently

715
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: there's YouTube channels that have his stuff. Okay, so that's

716
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: how he got it. But for most of us nothing,

717
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: I knew nothing, never watching it live. Heard his name,

718
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: so I saw I don't know if it was your tweet.

719
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: I saw a tweet about it and then put it on. Okay,

720
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: so you maybe missed the first dunk lot, but then

721
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: I saw it. I watched three. Yes, I watched the

722
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: next three yeah, and I was just like, he's floating,

723
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: he's done. He did. He did three dunks I've never

724
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: seen before. I've never seen anybody hurdle two back and back,

725
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: tap the backboard and dump and then ducket. Yeah. I've

726
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: never seen anybody do a five forty ever. Yeah, and

727
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody jump and then double pump a windmill.

728
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: That that was I've never seen that. He just he

729
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: was suspended in air. Yes, Glenn Robinson Junior was that

730
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: who jumped over two people. Somebody did a similar one

731
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: to him, but didn't tap the backboard where they went over,

732
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: and then it ended up being a reverse over two

733
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: with a guy like on other guy's shoulders. The five

734
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: forty was similar to somebody else, but everything he did

735
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: was with Warre Panash. It was just better. The fact

736
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: that he's six two, yeah, only made it more extraordinary

737
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: to watch because you saw the difference from his feet

738
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: to the ground. Was was what it was. I was

739
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: trying to think of other things that were just shocking

740
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: commets out of nowhere, and I thought of like, yeah,

741
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: cel Puig was like that with the Dodgers, Like nobody

742
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: he's like came over in a boat at night from

743
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: but and then all of a sudden he was hitting

744
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: eat off for the Dodgers and hitting yeah, eight hundred.

745
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: I was like, is this babe Ruth? And then he

746
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: did it for a whole year and then disappeared. Same thing. Yeah,

747
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: And the only other one was like Lisanity Jeremy Lynde

748
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: did that with the Knicks. But it wasn't like this

749
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: was a live moment. We aren't surprised much as sports

750
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: fans anymore, we're smarter than we've ever been. We know

751
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: who's good when they're fifteen, you know, so like to

752
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: have somebody I've never heard of dunk, Like, I've never

753
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: seen anybody dunk, and I'm not saying it's been players too.

754
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: Was also Yeah, I was like, they're like, wait, what

755
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: what are we watching? And then who game was it?

756
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: Lisa Leslie? They gave him a nine? Yeah, she blew it.

757
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: That was the only My wife was so mad. That

758
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: was the only nine. Everything else and they all should

759
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: have been fifties gave him. It should have been four

760
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: perfect scores. He never missed, by the way, didn't miss

761
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: which that's critical. I think was Shack's advice, don't miss one.

762
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: Do that. That's a win. Um. That was Can we

763
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: talk about Sunday night? We not next hour, the next hour,

764
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Sunday night, Yeah, exactly. Um, we'll take

765
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: a look at our head, our coaching. Vacancy's on the staff.

766
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Spancy's got a lot of work ahead of him here.

767
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up next. Let's to Cleveland

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00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily,

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00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: brought to you by Bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio

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00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. All right, welcome back to Cleveland.

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00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: Browns Daily. It's not bad. It's not bad. Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Baally Bet, coming soon Ohio on Cleveland. Just

773
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: looking in there and the look for from like a

774
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: disappointed and unhappy father figure in there. It's not a

775
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: look of disdain like the first time you did it.

776
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is that? And I'm like,

777
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: is it gear malfunctioning? And I just kind of gave

778
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: you a look and I was like, all right, fine,

779
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: I get it where you're going. But then mister Ed's

780
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: been dead for ten minutes. He decided to whoop him again. Right, Well,

781
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: I announced that this one was this one scheduled. I think, yeah,

782
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: it's not bad. It's pretty close. It's pretty close. Thank you. Yeah. Um, well,

783
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: if this doesn't work out, yeah, I can play a

784
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: chicken in a movie. You'd be ready there you go. Yeah,

785
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: all right, here's where we stand. We need a special

786
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: teams coordinator. Yep, you talked. You mentioned this earlier, um

787
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: in terms of the gentleman in Brown former Brown, and

788
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Stephen Holder about that here at the

789
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: top of the hour, so he would be at the

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00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: top of the list. Yeah. He was the special team's

791
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: captain for the brown in two thousand and eleven and twelve,

792
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: is a special team's captain for the nine Ers in

793
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: thirteen and fourteen, played safety for the Browns for two

794
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: thousand nine two thousand and twelve. His special teams units

795
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: have ranked in the top five each of the last

796
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: five years in Indie where he has been the special

797
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: teams coordinator, And if if reporting is to be leaved,

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00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: it does feel like he is. It's all. He's taken

799
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: the he's taken the job. Somebody just tweeted us out

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00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: and even better, Oh my goodness, gracious me, did you

801
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: see that dunk? No? Oh, yeah, look looks just the

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00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: jack of Hearts side. I'll find it um, all right,

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00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: So we'll ask Stevenholder about him coming up at two o'clock.

804
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: When was he here, Bob a Ventron two thousand and

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00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: nine to two thou twelve, so predates both of us,

806
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: both of us. Yeah, and he was special teams captain

807
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: for the Browns and eleven and twelve. When my first year,

808
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: which have been thirteen thirteen season, he went to the

809
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: Niners and was the Niners Special teams captain in thirteen

810
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: and fourteen. And as I mentioned, his units have been elite.

811
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: They've been elite units. Yes, we need a new quarterbacks

812
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: coach because Drew Petsing went to Arizona to rund the

813
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: offense there. Ravens quarterback coach James Urban has been one

814
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: of the names linked to the Browns for this. Per Zribek,

815
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: who we've had many many times on the program. He

816
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: had been the Ravens and he'd been there quarterback coach. There.

817
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: We need a defensive line coach because Chris Kiffen is

818
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: no longer with us, and then a dB defensive backs

819
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: coach and passing game coordinator as well. So there's a lot,

820
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: got a lot. It's got to get sorted out. We

821
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: got a lot to do. And you know, you look

822
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: at offensively, Stefanski obviously head coach, and he runs the offense.

823
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: He's back at Alex van Peltz, back at oc Stump

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00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: Mitchell back with the running backs. You've got Chatosha with

825
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: the receiver, Cec McCartney with the tight ends, and the

826
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: great Bill Callahan assisted by Scott Peters with the offensive line.

827
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: So you've got an opening quarterback coach? Do you need one?

828
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, I mean Alex Van Pelt could easily be

829
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and quarterback coach. I don't know that

830
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: you need one, but obviously that is a change with

831
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: Drew gone, so perhaps they will want one there. But defensively,

832
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, you've got some changes now, and it feels like,

833
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: really the opening is d line coach. If Banda is

834
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: coming in to be the replaced Jeff Howard with the safeties,

835
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: Brandon Lynch, you know, from all accounts, is still here.

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00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: We haven't heard anything different on that. With the corners,

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00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: and then we need special teams, and it sounds like

838
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: it we could have the special teams one sounds like

839
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: it could be filled quicker now as I understand it,

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00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: the Colts have to grant permission, and we'll talk all

841
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: about this with Stephen Holder. Now, the Browns could also

842
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: just do what the exactly what the Washington commanders did

843
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: with bi Enemy, which is say, oh yeah, you're the

844
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: offensive cordiner and assistant head coach. So he could just

845
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: be social teams coordinator and assistant head coach. To give

846
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: it a promotion and then you don't have to get

847
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: their permission. Yeah, a lot of turmoil and against some

848
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: odd odd timing of the changes that have happened here

849
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: for the Browns, you know, with Drew Petsing leaving this week,

850
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: your special teams coordinator leaving, and again it feels like,

851
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: and we'll get more insight from Holder, I would guess

852
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: that the Browns just really really wanted Bubba Ventrone. And

853
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: with the coaching change in Indianapolis and that coming is

854
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: La as it did with given that it came from

855
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: the Eagles after the Super Bowl, that now that's a possibility,

856
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: and so they decided to make this move. I think

857
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: one I'm with you, it alls the timing of it

858
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: is not normally and priefs our guy, so we you

859
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: know that bums you. But the the other thing is

860
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: is like the whole league's behind schedule. Yes, you know,

861
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: like there weren't This was not a coaching This was

862
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: not a coaching window where there were there was Sean

863
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: Payton and then everybody else. There weren't a bunch of

864
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: guys out there who we were waiting on. No, if

865
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean the I it was like both in Indie

866
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: and in in Arizona, it was like, well, I guess

867
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: we might as well hire the coordinators in Philly. They're good,

868
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: and so they did. It's not like anyone was talking

869
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: about Gannon and I'm blanking on the guy in Indie. Yeah,

870
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: we'll have to find out how he says. It wasn't

871
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: like we were hearing their names. Yeah, you know, it

872
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: wasn't like Robert Sala. When it was like someone's gonna

873
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: hire Robert Sala, like just a matter of he was

874
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: gonna pick his right spot. That wasn't the case here,

875
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: Like it felt like Indian Arizona kind of exhausted options

876
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: and then ended up with the two coordinators for Philly

877
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: for lack of better options. Yes, and I think so

878
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: that made the coaching carousel last a lot longer than

879
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: it normally did, because normally you got guys hired in

880
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks. It feels like, yeah, and

881
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: there were many job open I mean, even Reich was late.

882
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: It's not like he was right away in Carolina. A

883
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: lot of them were down the road a couple of weeks.

884
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, for sure. Strange hiring season and

885
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: it just has kind of created it's your point a

886
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: late start on a lot of these coaching situations that

887
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: have happened in the Browns obviously are kind of caught

888
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: in that with one of those new coaches hired after

889
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl plucking our quarterback coach to be there

890
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: oc and now it feels like we are plucking a

891
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: navailable special teams coordinator to replace the great prief. All right,

892
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: so we'll ask Stephen Holder, he's been all over this

893
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL reporter in Indie, what he can tell us

894
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: about Bubba Ventron and about this process that will come

895
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour. You listened to

896
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: Clevean Bron's Daily brought you by bally Bet coming soon

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900
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: on the Twisted T Hotline, brought you by Twisted T

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00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: hard Ic official sponsor for your Cleveland Browns. Keep it

902
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: Twisted Cleveland. On the other end, we find ESPN NFL

903
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: reporter Stephen Holder. Stephen, thank you so much covering the

904
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: Colts over in Indie. A lot of Bubba Ventrone. What

905
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: can you tell us where we stand now? Is is

906
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: this thing done as you understand it or close? I

907
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: don't think done is the right description, but I but

908
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: I do think there's a lot of expectation that he'll

909
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: end up in Cleveland. That is definitely true. I mean

910
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: I heard about this early this morning, and the feedback

911
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: I was getting is that he's on his way to Cleveland.

912
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: Obviously that might have been overstated by some of those sources,

913
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: but but that speaks to the expectation of people in

914
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: the league right now that this is likely to happen.

915
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I mean, nothing's ever done until it's done.

916
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: And the one thing I'd say is that there has

917
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: been a lot of movement here and this this hiring

918
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: cycle has been if you talk to people that they've

919
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: they've all kind of said, this has been just an

920
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: unusually busy hiring cycle. So things have been have become

921
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: a little unpredictable. But but I would not be surprised

922
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: if this gets done, that's for sure. Yeah, it's been

923
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: a strange cycle, and it's also because it's been a

924
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: delayed cycle. The Cults, one of the two teams hiring

925
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, one of the coordinators of the Eagles after

926
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So you're having this movement in February.

927
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: What you know would make Ventrone want to leave? Did? Did?

928
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: And how do you say you're a new head coach's

929
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: name the last name Shane Stike? St did Stiken have

930
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: a special team's coordinator of his own? Because you look

931
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: up the resume and Bubba Ventron's units have been top

932
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: five every year that he's been there, So how has

933
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: it come to be that he would be available? And

934
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: it almost feels like that's the reason Preefer was let

935
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: go today by the Browns is because Bubba Ventrone is

936
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: now suddenly available to them. Yeah, I mean it is interesting,

937
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: like you can connect the definitely does make sense if

938
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: do that now. To answer your question, I would say this,

939
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: when when the Colts introduced Stiken last week, I guess

940
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: a week ago today, they had the press confidence the

941
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: coaches who were still on the staff or all in attendance,

942
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: including Bubba Ventrone the defensive staff, which we expect to

943
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: be retained, but hasn't been any official announcement, And so

944
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: I was working under the assumption, like a lot of

945
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: people that Bubba Ventrone was coming back. I know that

946
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: he is held in high regard in the organization, So

947
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: it may just be as simple this just came about

948
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: that It's possible. It's very very possible this just came about.

949
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't have any indication that this was something that

950
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: had been brewing for a long time. I reached out

951
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: to a couple of sources in the Culture organization today

952
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: and they were unaware until this news came out. So

953
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: I do think this is something that's just unfolding. And

954
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: so what I'm saying is I presume this opportunity just

955
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: came up, and there's a couple of things that would

956
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: perhaps right, perhaps on speculating, but perhaps make this appealing

957
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: to him. Bubba Ventrone has a lot of interest in

958
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: becoming a head coach in the long term, and I

959
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: think he has the stuff to do it, I really

960
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: do now to do that. Maybe he gets I don't

961
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: know what the Browns staff currently looks like, but maybe

962
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: there's an associate head coach kind of title to be

963
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: had that would certainly be appealing. Money is always a

964
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: factor for all of us. Okay, that's that's certainly could

965
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: be a factor here. So you know, I just think

966
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: when you're looking at your long term goals, sometimes you

967
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: know you have to kind of move around and position

968
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: yourself to get where you want to go. That there's

969
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: could be a lot of reasons that we aren't aware

970
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: of that maybe make this appealing to bubble control. But

971
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: you are right, he is definitely I think among the

972
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 1: elite special teams coordinators in the NFL, have the Colts

973
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: granted the permission we know the Browns have asked for permission?

974
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: Is that you're interesting that the Colts have granted that

975
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: permission at this time. So it's a little unclear. I

976
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: mean it certainly impairs that way. I mean, every indication

977
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: is that there's strong interest there. I think generally when

978
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: these when permission is requested, when we hear about it,

979
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: it's usually because the coach is going to make the

980
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 1: interview right. Generally, every blue moon you hear about permission

981
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: being denied, that generally doesn't doesn't happen very often because

982
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: those conversations tend to not come out. So yeah, a

983
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: little speculative there, But my interpretation of this is that

984
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: it has been what we also are unclear about is

985
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of times this is hard with with

986
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: assistant coaches, we don't always know their contract status. It's

987
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: possible his contracts up or about to be up. I

988
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: think those assistant coach contracts come up usually at some

989
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: point after the Super Bowl. So if not, if not

990
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: already and pretty soon. And so if that's the case,

991
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: then you know, then it would just kind of be

992
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: almost a formality if you will, you know, if a

993
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: coach is coming out of his contract. But but I'm

994
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: not clear on that part. But but it does seem

995
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: as though that that that permission was granted. And look,

996
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: I think the coach the coat, having just made a

997
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: coaching change, you know, I think maybe in a situation

998
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: like that, you want to kind of do your guys

999
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: a solid if they're looking for other opportunities, which would

1000
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: be understandable. The last thing I would say is, I

1001
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: have no idea if this is a factor here, But

1002
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm just mentioning this. U Trone was passed over for

1003
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: the interim head coach job when Frank Reich was dismissed

1004
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: in mid season. I know he would have been very

1005
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: interested in in having that title, and I think I

1006
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: happen to think he would have been probably the best

1007
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: choice and so you know, something to keep in mind,

1008
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, way in the back of our heads if

1009
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: and when this happens, maybe a question to ask him

1010
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: talking to the great Stephen Holder ESPN NFL reporter and

1011
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: Indie about Bubba ben Trone current special teams coordinator there

1012
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: potentially could be the future one here. Um. You've mentioned

1013
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: this on a couple of your answers, and I've taken

1014
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: notes certainly about him having the stuff to be a

1015
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: head coach. What what does he have? What is their

1016
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: twom or is it just it? And if you have it,

1017
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: he does, what can you tell us about him the man,

1018
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: his coaching style that would lead you to lead you

1019
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: to have that type of stance on him. Yeah, So

1020
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: there is sort of the intangible stuff, right, which you

1021
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: kind of mentioned there. There's that, and and if I

1022
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: ever figure it out, you know, how to playing, I'll

1023
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: bottle it and sell it. But by failing that, I

1024
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: think everybody kind of knows what you mean, right. It's

1025
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: just there's a there's a vibe about that you that

1026
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: you get from some guys, right who just kind of

1027
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: have it. So there's that, and then coupled with with

1028
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: the things that his players say about him and just

1029
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: the way that he coaches them hard but also uh

1030
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: gets the best out of them. But I think there

1031
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: are some also there are also some tangible things we

1032
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: can point to, and it's a couple of things. Number one,

1033
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: I think he has a really good eye for talent.

1034
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: I can point to uh a few years ago and

1035
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: I think when he first got here. In fact, I

1036
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: can point to them, you know, looking at Rigo Blankenship

1037
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: as um a you know, a guy who was coming

1038
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: in as an undrafted free agent UH punter kicker I

1039
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: think out of the University of Hawaii. UH. They end

1040
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: up keeping him as their their punter and he becomes

1041
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: one of the best punters in the NFL. You know

1042
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: that was that was really uh Bubba Ventrone who who

1043
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: saw that in him and really um you know, was

1044
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: open to that uh and and convinced and that that's

1045
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: the other thing could sold the organization on that too,

1046
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: which is also important. The other thing I would say

1047
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: is there have been a number of I think really

1048
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: good course special teams players here who who really you know,

1049
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: we're on the friends of the roster and and we're

1050
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: kept only at the behest of Bubba Ventron you know,

1051
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: otherwise would have been cut and they weren't course special

1052
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: teamers when when he convinced the team to keep them,

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00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: but he developed and developed them into course special teamers

1054
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: because he saw it in them. And some of those

1055
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: guys have gone on to become rotational players or even

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00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: starters as well on offensive defense. So I just think

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00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: his ivor talent is is really really good and sharp,

1058
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: and I think you that can only help you, you know,

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00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: when you're making the case, you know, for a bigger

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00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: role with any organization, Steve, and I know you gotta run.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time, really appreciate it.

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00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: On short notice. Hey anytime, guys. It's Stephen Holder, ESPN

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00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: NFL reporter in Indie on Bubba Ventrone potentially being in

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00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: the mix here. Great get by Gibbe to get to

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00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: get him, Stephen Holder to talk Bubba Ventrone, who was

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00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: went by Ray Ventrone when he was with the Browns.

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00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: And I think Bubba's got more of a much better ring. Yeah, great,

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00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: bubba Um. It sounds like from him that people in

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00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: Indie kind of think this is it's happening now. I

1070
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: will note the Browns have also requested to interview Giants

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: as assistant special teams coordinator Anthony Blevins. According to multi Reports,

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00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: he interviewed with Denver for their special teams coordinator opening

1073
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: and is currently with the Giants. So it feels like

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00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: they felt like they had to let prefer go to

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00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: get a shot at Bubba Ventrone, right, And that's from

1076
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: Stephen Holders talk about it. It sounds like he feels

1077
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: pretty good that it's happening, so we'll have to stay there.

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00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: He is. He's in considered to be, as you heard,

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00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: an elite special teams coordinator. His units have ranked, as

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00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned, near the top in terms of performance, certainly

1081
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: the last few years. According to the Pro Football Focus grades,

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00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: his special teams units have been basically top five in

1083
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: each of the last five years. There was one exception

1084
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, but last year fourth, twenty twenty one, second,

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00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: twenty first, twenty nine, twenty eighteen, fifth, So four last

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: five years in the top five, including a first and

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00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: twenty a second and twenty one. So sounds pretty good.

1088
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: Sounds pretty good, and we need to be you know,

1089
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: we are a team that has a lot of pressure

1090
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: on it, and you cannot discount the fact that some

1091
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: of the games got away from us this year because

1092
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: of special teams. Jets game, you have a mix miss

1093
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: extra point, you failure to recover an onsidekick, Chargers games,

1094
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: multiple miss field goals, including one that would have won

1095
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: the game. And I think those early season ones, the

1096
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: punt returned against the Ravens, you know, those are all

1097
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: in the first seven weeks. You win those three games,

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00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: I think this is a completely completely different season. Well,

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00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: and I think the other thing is you're And that's

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00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: why I thought it was interesting that Stephen kept talking about,

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00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: you know that has this stuff to be a head coach,

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00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: you know when you think about and Priefed did a

1103
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: great job in the wildcard game and coached that game

1104
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: and got a victory, So forever indebted for that. But

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00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: I think you're also and this was probably the case

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00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: with Joe too. You know, there a little bit of

1107
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: juice maybe injected. So maybe if he has those qualities

1108
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: whatever that it is, if he has those qualities, you know,

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00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: that leadership, that vocal. Uh. You know, we talked about

1110
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: it a lot this season about you know, the accountability

1111
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: and leadership, and you got to have some guys who

1112
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: are following me to freedom guys. Schwartz certainly is that

1113
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: has that that was well well documented at his press conference.

1114
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: Knew what you're getting in there, and Fintron has that too,

1115
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: then there's a little bit of a balance. Here's what

1116
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: Colts linebacker e J. Speed had to say on his

1117
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: relationship with special teams coordinator Bubba Ventrone. He said, quote,

1118
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: he the type of coach that makes you believe you

1119
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: can be more than what you are. He's always gonna

1120
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: be honest about how he's feeling and what you should

1121
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: be doing. You can come to him and talk to

1122
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: him about anything you've got going on, and he's not

1123
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: gonna colly you. He's going to give you a grown

1124
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: man answer. Any coaches the same way. He expect you

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00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: to do it right every time. It has to be

1126
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: every rep. It's not like, well, when you get in

1127
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: the game, just to make sure you make that block,

1128
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: because if you're in practice and you're not making that block,

1129
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: he's going to let you know it's unacceptable and he's

1130
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: gonna hold you accountable. That's why I roll with Bubba,

1131
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: because when you're doing that type of stuff and you're

1132
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: keeping it real outside of the football field, I can

1133
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: come talk to you about anything now. I want to

1134
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: be that great for you. You know what I'm saying.

1135
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: And if I know I'm a guy who's been showing

1136
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: that I can do this and do that and another

1137
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: guy hasn't, Bubba will be like, look, I don't care

1138
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: who the other guy is. You've been shown in practice.

1139
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: Go ahead and shine. I'm gonna put you in the

1140
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: light and let the front office or whoever else take

1141
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: it from there. He's really cool like that. So that

1142
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: obviously able to relate to players. And I think some

1143
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: of what you know has ailed us that we've talked about.

1144
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: And this is not in any way, shape or form.

1145
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: I think this is an overall thing. This is not

1146
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: a Joe Woodsinger Mike Preefer thing is. But we have

1147
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: had a tough time I think reaching the players and

1148
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: getting to be more than you know, the some of

1149
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: the parts. Yeah, And I think that that is you know,

1150
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz just hearing him. That's the kind of guy

1151
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: that he is. He's going to lead and be fair

1152
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: and be honest and be direct and get in their

1153
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 1: butts a little bit and be emotional. And it sounds

1154
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: like Bubba Ventron is able to do that as well,

1155
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: and I think that's something that we need injected into

1156
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: this organization. And I think that can go a long way.

1157
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: Because defensively, we're going to be a good offense. I

1158
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: have no doubt about that. I mean, we were top

1159
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: ten offense WHI Chekobe Brusett last year. We're gonna be

1160
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: a good offense. We're in very good hands there. Defensively,

1161
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: while we had some butts, we could have been better

1162
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: than we were. It was a lack of discipline on

1163
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: and off the field. I think that really affected that unit.

1164
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: That should get cleaned up. With Schwartz and then special teams,

1165
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: he gets to touch the whole team because you have

1166
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: guys from offense and guys from defense on special teams.

1167
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: So I think it sets up very well for the

1168
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: Browns if Bubba Ventron actually is the guy. And it's

1169
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: kind of amazing that this opportunity came up, but it

1170
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: would make more sense as to why things have gone

1171
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: down the way that they have. Mike Preefer, if it's

1172
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: because Bubba Ventron is now available, yeah, and if he's

1173
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: if we go in another direction. We just did like

1174
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: thirty minutes on Bubba Ventron it's great, which is fantastic. Yeah,

1175
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: believe me. If people are fired up about Bubba Ventro,

1176
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: so I hope he comes. Yeah. I think it's fun

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01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: and it is fun to say. All right, we'll count

1178
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: down our ten biggest needs for the Browns this offseason.

1179
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: Numbers ten and nine coming up. We've got a little

1180
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: higher lower as well. Give some thoughts on Sunday's All

1181
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: Star festivities. There was a ton of sports this weekend.

1182
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm curious the ratings will be out tomorrow. They're delayed

1183
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: a little by President's Day. I'm curious how Daytona five

1184
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: hundred XFL was this weekend. The golf was in LA

1185
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: He had the All Star Game festivities as well, so

1186
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. We'll get to all of that.

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Speaker 1: things that are the biggest needs for us this offseason.

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Speaker 1: So for clarification, how are we defining at your own

1202
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: how do you how are we going to define things?

1203
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: I have all over the place. I have positions that

1204
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: we don't have right now that need to be addressed.

1205
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: I've got people on the roster that need to be

1206
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: better than they were a year ago. I have fear

1207
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: like kind of in the moment type of things that

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of stuff here. I got a

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01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: lot of stuff here. All right, So let's let's roll.

1210
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: Let's go with your number ten, number ten thing countdown.

1211
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: Number one is the most important, number ten, the least important,

1212
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: least least to most. Yes, all right, I'm gonna you

1213
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: need a minute. I think it's good. This is good,

1214
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, this is the final week, full week of February.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We made it through, all right, dude, we

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: made it. I mean, that's what I said. Like, I'm

1217
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: not going to complain about the weather in March, not

1218
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: the temperature. I can complain about the rain. I'll reserve

1219
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: the right to complain about that. I'm sure we're going

1220
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: to get our fair share of the last week that

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01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: we've had come on in February. It's been a delight

1222
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: to be and there's not that horizon, all right, So

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01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: give me your ten, number ten, number ten. I'd like

1224
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: a true slot cornerback on this roster. I think that

1225
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: we have. I don't know if moves are going to

1226
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: be made in that cornerback room, but I do think

1227
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: we need a true nickel on the roster. Somebody who

1228
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: liked Troy Hill was the year before boh, your hand

1229
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: is raced. Would it be possible that he already is

1230
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: he just wears number twenty one. It is possible, But

1231
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't think, given his concussion history, that your nickel

1232
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: defender has got to be an integral part of your

1233
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: run defense. And I don't think Denzel is that interested

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01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: in that. And then also be I don't know that's

1235
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: that prudent to have him sticking his head in there

1236
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: as much in run defense. Look, we have three great

1237
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 1: outside corners. I don't know what by time Greg gets

1238
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: here and how that all gets worked out, but my magic,

1239
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: my guess is he wants to play outside. And statistically

1240
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: last year our two best outside corners were mj Emerson

1241
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: and Greg Newsom. So we're in a little bit of

1242
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: a pickle there. Having a true nickel I think would help,

1243
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: just because because there are going to be injuries. It

1244
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: just always happened, So yeah, you need to have that

1245
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: guy that's a true slot so that when if Denzel

1246
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: were to miss some time, which he has done on

1247
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: a fairly regular basis, not a lot, but that you

1248
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: have a true nickel that you can slide in there.

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01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: So I think that is a that's a that's a

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01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: priority for us this off season. All right, number nine

1251
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: on your list? What's number ten on your list? Same

1252
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: as yours? Oh it was okay, Yeah, I'm Erdie Johnson here,

1253
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: You're okay, that's you. Number nine on my list is

1254
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: a true center field free safety. And so this is

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01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: number nine because as of this time, it's not a

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01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: glaring need or a pressing need. You have John Johnson,

1257
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: and you have You've got Grant delp it back, John Johnson.

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: Could he be a Brown this year? Certainly. We love

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Speaker 1: talking with him on the show. I thought he played

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01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: wall as the season went on, played better. But he's

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01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: got a big price tag and money is right now

1262
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: a little tight where I'm sure we're gonna do some structuring.

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01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: We could restructure Amri, we could restructure Miles. We constructure

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01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: to Sean and clear up some cap space there. But

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01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: with a post first designation, John Johnson's cut would be

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01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: would save nine over nine million dollars. He and Grant

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01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: are very similar in where they are the best. They

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: are both best closer line scrimmage. Now, Grant showed as

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01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: the season went on, you know, four interceptions this year,

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01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: played some. He had a great cover two which is

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01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: a deep half safety look where he got an interception

1272
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 1: of Carson Wentz and then you know man in the post.

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01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: He played deep center field and got to pick against Ushingham.

1274
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: But I think he's at his best kind of closer

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01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and more of a strong

1276
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: safety role. So if you had a true center fielder,

1277
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: so we could play some of those cover threes, free

1278
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: grant up to be a playmaker. That would be a

1279
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: big thing. Jesse Bates is a name that has been

1280
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: constantly linked to the Browns this offseason. He would be swing.

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01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: It would be a huge right from your you know,

1282
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: from a rival and put him on your team, that

1283
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: would be huge. But it's number nine because it's not

1284
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: a need. If if we know that, you know, we

1285
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: do make a change on the back end of this defense,

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: that would shoot well up the list. To me, there's

1287
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: a redundancy to Johnson and delp It. They're they're both

1288
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: good at the same thing, right, So that's that's what

1289
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: makes it tricky. And neither one is totally comfortable doing

1290
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: what you just explained. That's not their best part of

1291
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: their game. And so you want them up near the line,

1292
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: you want them blitzing, you want them and they both

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01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: do that at a high level. Delp It you drafted

1294
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: he's that's what he did and that's what he did

1295
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: at LSU. So um, that's that's kind of where that

1296
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: thing goes. Um two in the secondary again, these are

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01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: at the bottom of yeah, the packing order. Sure, Like

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01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 1: I mean, if we rolled out our secondary of Denzel MJ,

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01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: Greg John and delp it I think, obviously you need

1300
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: some depth there, but that's pretty good. Yes, you still

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01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about that back in so it's not

1302
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: a huge need. And the slot corner is really more

1303
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: of a depth. But if we do bring in another corner,

1304
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: you want it to be I think a true nickel

1305
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: um and then I think that not the true center

1306
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: field free safety is what really could get this defense going.

1307
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Other We're going to get to other parts of the

1308
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: defense as we go on, but that to me, you know,

1309
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: is not necessarily a need today but has the opportunity

1310
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: to be a need and then become a huge strength

1311
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: if you are the team that is able to convince

1312
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: Bates to come and play here. Oh my gosh. Well,

1313
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: and the other thing, that's when you think about we

1314
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: think about the priority list, and as we get you know,

1315
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: get towards the top of the list, you're it's going

1316
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: to be the things that we talk about all the time.

1317
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: But you kind of have to There's only so much

1318
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: money to go around, so you have to kind of

1319
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: pick your poison in terms of where are we going

1320
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: to be. You can't be elite everywhere nobody can be

1321
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: because we're at a point now where we're having to

1322
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: pay our best players. We're paying Miles, we're paying Denzel,

1323
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: we're paying to quarterback, paying Nick Chubb. So you're paying

1324
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: a lot of the in two guards, right, you're paying

1325
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: paying a lot of our veteran guys. There's enough money

1326
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: to go around. This isn't the old days when you

1327
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: had Baker on a rookie contract and Miles hadn't been

1328
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: redone and Denzel's on a rookie contract, and why it

1329
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: was off the scrap heap and you could start throwing

1330
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: a lot of money around. Our money's allocated. Yes, so

1331
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: this will be bargain deals, prudent and yeah, restructurings, those

1332
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: type of things are going to be. You know, I

1333
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: think very much the topic of the day as we

1334
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: get into free agency. I mean this is we have

1335
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: been big swings in free agency as long as I've

1336
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: been doing this show. We've had a lot of big

1337
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: swings in free agency, but we identify who we want

1338
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: to go get them, and that's probably not gonna be

1339
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: the case this year. It's gonna be tougher. Like people

1340
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: who think they're gonna be able to get Durron Payne

1341
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: or Jevon Hargrave and to Jesse Bates, that's gonna be

1342
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: that's very difficult. I think they're gonna choose one big

1343
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 1: star and then they're going to try to get pieces.

1344
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: And it's probably easier on the interior the defensive line

1345
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: to find pieces that can together or create what you're

1346
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: looking for. You know, now, Joe Schwartz always had an

1347
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: All Pro or a Pro bowler on the interior of

1348
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: his defensive line everywhere that he has been, literally every

1349
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: single stop. It might be true that the best chance

1350
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: for that is Perry and Winfrey Perry and Winfrey in here,

1351
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: but he's got to Key has got it. He has

1352
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: got to grow up fast. He's got to become a

1353
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: professional quickly. Talent wise. Yes, he has the ability to

1354
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: be a very very productive, disruptive interior defensive linement. We

1355
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: saw that really over the second half of the season.

1356
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: Should had three sacks this here, all in the second

1357
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: half of the season. Yeah, And as we get to

1358
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: the top of this list, I mean, you're it's your

1359
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: list we're going off of. But I'm know for a

1360
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: fact our number ones are going to be the same.

1361
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 1: So that's something that it was a late edition. Okay,

1362
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: so is it an organic as opposed to specific? A

1363
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: little hint for the kids. Number two is more organic

1364
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: and less specific than number one one? Somewhat specific, right, Um,

1365
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: all right, so we'll do eight and seven tomorrow yep

1366
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: on this list. Um, you want to do NBA All

1367
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: Stars Sunday quickly here before we get to hire lower Fine.

1368
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: It was awful. I've never heard players and coaches just

1369
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: destroy the game the way they did. It was awful.

1370
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: I stopped watching it was. Um. I think basketball, of

1371
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 1: all of them is it's it's a little bit like

1372
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: you hear. You've heard people use the analogy, you know,

1373
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: even bad pizza's good pizza. There's still some entertainment in

1374
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: seeing people dunk, right, But the fact that this thing

1375
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: has been bastardized to the point of no effort at all.

1376
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean they put in those elim endings, which that's

1377
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: from the basketball tournament where you play to a score.

1378
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: They put those in to try to make the end

1379
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: of quarters fun. They didn't even care about that, didn't

1380
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: care about that at all. All the shooting from half court,

1381
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: the nonsense, I mean, no defense whatsoever, just free reigned

1382
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: to the rim whenever you want it. It was Jalen

1383
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: Brown said, He's like it was like a layup line.

1384
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: There were so many uncontested just like layups, night dunks,

1385
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: just like layups. Anybody who had the ball that wanted

1386
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: to score it could score every single time they had

1387
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, if they just wanted to move towards

1388
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: the basket, they would have scored every time. Yeah. And

1389
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: it was a far cry from even It's funny so

1390
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: often you end up and get off my on territory.

1391
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: But this isn't even going back to like when you

1392
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: and I were kids. I'm talking about even Kobe and Michael.

1393
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: I was just going to bring that up. They were

1394
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: getting after it. Yes, you know, and Kobe. There's a

1395
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: clip going around with Kobe Um that was going around

1396
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: this weekend about how in that when it came time

1397
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: for the fourth quarter, it was like, Okay, let's go

1398
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: let's play really bad. I'm gonna go win the that

1399
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: never came. I'm gonna go win the All Star Game.

1400
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna go win the All Star Game like I'm

1401
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: not losing. And and that is gone, gone, gone from

1402
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: the sport. I mean, that was it was. It was bad.

1403
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: It was a clown show. Malone Saturday. After the game,

1404
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: I thought Anthony Edwards I thought was spot on about it.

1405
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown was spot I thought Edwards was cool too.

1406
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: He said, we gotta stop with this not playing nonsense.

1407
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: You know, people maybe be able to afford to go

1408
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: to one game a year and they picked that game

1409
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: because they want to see that player. And then he

1410
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: just is like, yeah, I'm resting, Like some of that

1411
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: isn't to be fair, some of that isn't in the

1412
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: player's hands. Some of that's coaching or even ownersh be

1413
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: able to sit there, guys on for rest. No, of

1414
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: course it shouldn't be happening. Um, I've bemoaned the fact

1415
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 1: that it happened twice here with the Warriors. In the

1416
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: it happened with the Warriors, the Bucks, and the Luca

1417
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 1: was the big one though, Like one trip into town

1418
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: gets a rest day, same thing with the Warriors, get

1419
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: one trip into town. Steph Clay, Draymond all healthy, all sat.

1420
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: They should just have nobody to play back to backs

1421
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: then and then nobody ever sets They could schedule that out.

1422
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: They could. They're gonna have to. They're gonna have to

1423
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: lose some games on the schedule, but I think they've

1424
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: got to find I mean, I think all you gotta

1425
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: do is, like, as a player, you have to have

1426
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: some pride and to say, Okay, we're gonna try and

1427
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: play like the Lebron could do it with in one

1428
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: fell swoop. Yeah, if he just said, hey, we're gonna

1429
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: go hard, now, find would go. Yeah, that fix the

1430
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: All Star Game? Who ended up being the MVP. Jason

1431
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: Tatum had fifty five points. Yeah. So the record forever

1432
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: was Wilt had forty two in an All Star Game,

1433
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: and now it's been broken three times in the last

1434
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis had fifty, Steph Curry had fifty last year

1435
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: here and then Jason tatums at the all time record

1436
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: fifty five. Jeez, but it was just a layup. It

1437
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: was just either layups or half court shots. Yeah, too many,

1438
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: just clown show. Yeah, silliness really was all right, we'll

1439
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: do a little higher, lower, better or worse. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. There he is in a cream, in this,

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Speaker 1: he's in this, He's in one of these. The he

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Speaker 1: just needs to put them put it out there there.

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Speaker 1: I'm Temno, he has our blessing. He doesn't need it,

1451
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: but yeah you should. Right, you're not up now? Go?

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Speaker 1: Is that a Is that a fresh hood? Easy? Like?

1453
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: It looks like it's fresh out of the box with

1454
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 1: like this. I am, I'm fully aware of it, but

1455
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: it looks like it's fresh. We've talked about the cream

1456
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: clothing lines several times. Yeah, that it's happened. Yeah, it

1457
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: looks good. This is my first time, I think seeing

1458
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: you wear it in the studio. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's

1459
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: made in Milan, no way. Yeah. Wow, the journey of

1460
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: a young woman from Milanda, Minsk. That's right, Rochelle. Rochelle

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01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: che aps in studio. Uh give me wants to know

1462
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: what are your opinions? On Mike Preef for being relieved

1463
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: of duties. Yeah, this was, uh a change that you

1464
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: could have seen coming after the last couple of years

1465
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: of just the inconsistent play on the special team side

1466
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: of the ball. Um, it wasn't just kind of the

1467
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: troubles that k your hat. Obviously there was you know,

1468
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: some some ups and downs as far as punt coverage

1469
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: and kick coverage and um, it just where where things

1470
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: could could get better on really all sides of of

1471
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: of special teams play. So, um, you know, pres such

1472
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: a great guy. Sorry to see him go, but um,

1473
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 1: you know they they need to be a lot stronger

1474
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: in that department next year. And and that's that's why

1475
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: the change, you know, I think had to be made.

1476
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: But it's odd timing, right, It is definitely odd timing.

1477
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: It feels more like, oh, stike and goes to Indie

1478
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: wants to get out, So now because we have a

1479
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 1: chance to upgrade in their we're going to do something.

1480
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: But I think they were fine bringing Preef back. You know,

1481
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: it's still in the top half of the league. We're

1482
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: over a month into the offseason. Normally this is when

1483
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: you're not letting coaches go you're you're, you're, if anything,

1484
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: figuring out who's still coming in and uh, yes, the

1485
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: timing was definitely definitely interesting and a little off putting.

1486
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: Um so, but I think what you have is probably correct.

1487
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: It's it's assistance are moving around the league right now.

1488
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: Ums as the coaching stuff gets figured out and thinks

1489
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: it was late, Yeah, it was late, and I think

1490
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: they maybe saw a chance where they can make an

1491
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: upgrade and they're going for it. Yeah. Um, how many

1492
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: combines you've been top? Uh? Just one? Just one last

1493
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: year unless it's from this skunk guy. I'm now told

1494
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: that Brown's Bill Willis diversity coaching fellow Israel Wolf Fork

1495
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: has been informed you can join the Arizona Cardinals staff,

1496
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: per league source. Wolffork currently expected to be named the

1497
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals QB coach. Yeah. Well, he just waved by to

1498
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: us and thanked us and said it was great knowing us.

1499
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, we can. I didn't see that. There's a

1500
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: well we didn't say it, but I mean that literally

1501
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: happened to happen. Yeah, two weeks ago. Correct. Yeah, we

1502
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: lamented the fact and said that it was a salute

1503
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: near a month ago. We give it salute goodbye a

1504
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: nice way. You know, that's one of those things that

1505
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: we kind of get, like we can we can confirm

1506
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: good knowing you guys pleasant CD confirmed it. That's right, right, Sorry,

1507
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: it's a little miss a lot you have a you have,

1508
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: but I can't see anything. It was over on this side.

1509
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: Get may to be honest, it was where you had vision.

1510
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: It was honest through AP's head. That would be in

1511
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: order for you to get the scores on that. You

1512
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: always have to pay attention to the scores on this program. Yeah,

1513
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: but those scored you to to be paying it. I

1514
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: think laser focus, Well we did. I mean it came up,

1515
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: I know, but I mean there were crumbs. There were

1516
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: crumbs that were always crumbs that leads you to where

1517
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: you need to be. But yeah, Hansel and growl. Yeah,

1518
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: so this is your second second. How are you preparing

1519
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: this year different than the last? Uh? Well, I was

1520
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: gonna say it's definitely spending more time. Uh well, not

1521
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: just at kill Roy's, Saint Almos too, I would like

1522
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: to go. So last year, uh at Saint Almos. My

1523
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: first trip, I went by myself because this was after

1524
01:18:58,360 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: the whole Brown screw had already left. I had to

1525
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: day one extra day for I think it was I

1526
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: wanted to stay for the specialist interview the next day,

1527
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: and uh I went to say now moos by myself

1528
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: sad at the bar at the last year too. It

1529
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: was great, it was. It was a great night, just

1530
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: like the rest of the other nights. I had an

1531
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: indie and it was just unaware of the ferocity of

1532
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: the saint almost cocktail and how hard that was going

1533
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: to hit. So I took a massive bite out almost.

1534
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: I took a massive bite out of the first shrimp

1535
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: and uh I had the bartender was looking at me

1536
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: as as she took it. Unbenowns that I didn't know

1537
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: that she was looking at me, and um saw me

1538
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: instantly grabbed my beer and just take a one, big, big,

1539
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: big swig and she said, how was it? And I

1540
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: was like, it was the bear doesn't even helps, it's

1541
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: in your head, doesn't But that was like the most remarket.

1542
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: It's one of the most remarkable remarktable, like one of

1543
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: the one of the most remarkable marketing schemes of all time.

1544
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 1: It is just a shrimp cocktail with a lot of

1545
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: horse rader. That's right, that's it. That's the list, and

1546
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: yet they sell a billion of them because I don't

1547
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: know where it started or how they how it became

1548
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: a thing, or if they just said we're gonna make

1549
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: our horse rapped like this is amazing, because it's it's

1550
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: just really, I mean, the shrimp are great. They're really

1551
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: big giant shrimps. Great, but like it's they're not that

1552
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: different than you one that you pick up at Hinens

1553
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: or whatever, Like it's all similar. So they're just big shrimp.

1554
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: But it's just it's almost an orange color in the cocktails.

1555
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: That's my house cocktail sauce. Now, yeah, I mean I

1556
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: buy it. They solid at Hinenz. You can get a

1557
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: local grocer and it's delicious. It's every bit as hot. Well,

1558
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: I just took like really as big of a bite

1559
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: as I probably could have taken, huge mistake, and it

1560
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: just felt like gastling was just coming out of my nose,

1561
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: like it was I almost died. You guys are witnesses.

1562
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 1: That's fine. It's like iokane powder, though, you can build

1563
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: up a resistance. Like now I could go in there

1564
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: and I could I could spoon the whole thing, so

1565
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: we were I finished the cocktail. We were told that

1566
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: there was a combine one that's actually less and then

1567
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: there's like the local one that's like that that they

1568
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: have all the time for the locals or whatever. And

1569
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure didn't. Didn't we say, like, give us

1570
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: we want. I feel like you would you did this?

1571
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: You give us the regular what I do? I know,

1572
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming you. I'm sure I wanted it too.

1573
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: We all want it. But I think that and so

1574
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: I was. It took a big glob and it was

1575
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: about got me. You weren't speaking, You're no. It comes

1576
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: in the back of your head. Back here. You can

1577
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: smell the inside of your cranium. That's mo than what

1578
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: I was smelling because I just remember feeling in my nose.

1579
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't eat stuff. You don't, it'll clean up. Sinus

1580
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: is right on out. Yeah, it's it's wild. I'm always

1581
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: curious what India is like. So many times I'm only

1582
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: ever there for big events. Yeah, so I don't know, like,

1583
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 1: if you show normal today, what's it like in downtown

1584
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: a ghost town? Is that the people there? I have

1585
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: no idea. It's a great question. You know, you see

1586
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: the crazy damn things there and yeah, you do combine week.

1587
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: I enjoy almost giving on a scale of one to ten.

1588
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: How much do you love the combine love him? I

1589
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: know you love it so much. There's nothing you love more.

1590
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: If it were up to you'd be there for a month. Yep, well,

1591
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: never forget the first time. He just love me to

1592
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: kill Roy's last year loves time. Yea, all the spots. Yeah,

1593
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: got in on the kill Roy's action. Yeah, that was

1594
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: a fun night. I've talked major trash to Mike Tomlin

1595
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: and kill Roy's. Yeah. I've been on Jerry's bus outside

1596
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: a steak and shake it. Yeah, I don't say I've

1597
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: always former Brown's quarterback always get excited when I see

1598
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: that bus just parked alongside the It's there. It's so exciting,

1599
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: all right, Higher, lower presented. I keep it fun. Ohio

1600
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: from the aisle lotter who reminds you set your time

1601
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: in spending limits when gambling. Hello, give a boys, hey man.

1602
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: Ranking the six drills we'll see if this year's NFL

1603
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: scouting combined. So I'm not actually asking you higher lower,

1604
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm asking you to rank the ones that I'm interested in.

1605
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Are the ones that are most relevant? Most relevant? I

1606
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: like this, it's like most important most obviously it depends

1607
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: on position. But as you get reading to the underwear Olympics,

1608
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: what is what are the most important drills you're looking

1609
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: for in this? I don't see on here tape number

1610
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: one their tape. I would agree with that. So let's

1611
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: let's go number two. Number number two, number two. So

1612
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this one I think is fun.

1613
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: And the most fun is when is the bench. So

1614
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: we're set up near the bench so you can see it,

1615
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: so we had we had no I'm saying, I'm doing

1616
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: how I want to do. Most fun. You do whatever

1617
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: you want your world. I would do bench press is

1618
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 1: the most fun. We were set up adjacent to it

1619
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: and we saw dk Metcalf do one hundred and six

1620
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it was like, this feels like that's

1621
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: a lot. So that and people get excited about the

1622
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: bench and I like, remember the guy that tours Bice,

1623
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: was it Billy Price. It was Billy Price. It was

1624
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: Billy Price, like it was the very first guy to

1625
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: do the bench and he still went like first round,

1626
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 1: first round two since he's has never never been what

1627
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: he was it behind the state. No, I like the

1628
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: bench because we're closest to it obviously the most Yeah,

1629
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: but we're not there for that you're watch I agree

1630
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: with Bo. If you're talking most fun, it's definitely the

1631
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: bench However, when I got the list or information of

1632
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: what we were gonna be talking about, it was phrased

1633
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: as most important. There So to me, benches like out

1634
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: of the six that we had here, six is six

1635
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: for sure. But if we're going off the fun uh

1636
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: value that that Bo had, then then I think you

1637
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: got to put the forty yard dash next. Um. Obviously

1638
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 1: not far from the entertaining value as the bench press

1639
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: pot because you've just seen a bunch of guys running

1640
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: and there's no most important is forty yard that's that's

1641
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: number one on my list of most people without pads. Yes,

1642
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: because receiver like guys can still elevate their stock with

1643
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: a good forty time at most positions. Um, I think

1644
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: it applies to a lot of positions, the wide receiver, cornerback, linebackers.

1645
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean every position really to a fault, what's up

1646
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: sometimes to a fault. Yes, it makes you overvalue somebody exactly. It.

1647
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the perfect It's far from the

1648
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: perfect scale. We're just talking about the jows that we

1649
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 1: have that we get to see on the combine. So, girl,

1650
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: what would be your number two? Probably the vertical or

1651
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 1: the broad jump, because those are things that we can

1652
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 1: all relate to and it ties into the explosiveness and

1653
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: you know things like this with that DK metcalf do

1654
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: that jumping thing, and I was like, hey, he's probably

1655
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: gonna do pretty well in the Celebrity All Star Game. Well,

1656
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: this is the problem with this is in the city

1657
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: we mentioned K twice. So it was the cone drill. Remember,

1658
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 1: people weren't cone drill with Tom Brady and saying they

1659
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 1: were putting him. They superimposed him and it was like

1660
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: he's slower than Tom Brady and the cone drill. So

1661
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: he fell to the second round. YEP. It was like, well,

1662
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: wait a second, what are we doing. I think every

1663
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: drill has an major outlier, somebody who either did terrible

1664
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: in it and ended up being amazing or somebody who

1665
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,759
Speaker 1: you know, blew the tires off and ended up being terrible.

1666
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: So never forget Orlando Brown at the forty yard dash.

1667
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: I know we were not talking to him, but ran

1668
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: terrible four yard dash, fell to the Ravens and I

1669
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: think the second or third round or something, and wait,

1670
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,879
Speaker 1: what does they have to do with being an offensive exactly?

1671
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: But but that forty yard dash. He was supposed to

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01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: be a first round pick and that forty yard dash

1673
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: is what bumped him. I think it made no sense.

1674
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: But the combine is there's parts of it that are cool.

1675
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: There are parts of it that are absurd. The hyperbole

1676
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: that needs to be given to every prospect is crazy.

1677
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if you remember at the combine last year,

1678
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 1: like who's trading up to get Malik Willis the guy

1679
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: got drafted in the third round. Yeah, oh my god.

1680
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: This week he had somebody comparing Bryce Young to Patrick

1681
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: Mahomes Steph Curry and I he stop stop plays basket.

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01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: I remember last year, like Taekwon Thornton had like like

1683
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: a blazingly fast, like best fort yard dash and like

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01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: I believe he scored against us. He did that was

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01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: probably the one good paying last year. But yeah, he

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01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: did like that. That was like for me, teetering on

1687
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: the dark side of Gibbey right there, and he loved it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 1: that was when we made what's I don't remember the

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01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 1: guy's name. I wanted. I said it was gonna say

1690
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty, but I know that's not his name. What

1691
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: was the name of the quarterback that absolutely looked like

1692
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: Joe Montana or Tom Brady from the Patriots that started

1693
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: against us. Le's happy, Yeah that guy. Yeah, we made

1694
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: Bailey's appy look he was. Maybe that was one of

1695
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback games ever. I mean it was flawless.

1696
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: And apparently in New England they're saying there's not much

1697
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 1: difference between me and that and back Jones. Well, based

1698
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: on what we saw. Yeah, no, I'd say there's a

1699
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: big difference. He's good. Yeah, all right, here's mine. Jones

1700
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: tape is one. So then I would go bench press

1701
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: two forty three, vertical four, broad jump five, twenty yards

1702
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: is six and three cone to seven. Let's say we

1703
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 1: never even see the twenty yards or the three cone.

1704
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't even like I kind of had to like

1705
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: refresh my memory on how the twenty yard shuttle goes.

1706
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: Isn't it it's it's five five or is it? I

1707
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: think it's five ten, ten, five. You start in the middle,

1708
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: you go five, then you go the full ten and

1709
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 1: then back five two trees. Like I forgot already. I

1710
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 1: think I the explosive is what you're seeing this? Who's explosive?

1711
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: Change of pace and stuff? Yeah, change of direction? Yeah,

1712
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: all right? Are they a slot receiver? Then I'm interested

1713
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: the nickel corner? Fine, now I care right? Yeah, yeah,

1714
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the it's mostly I mean

1715
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: to let you guys in all the secret it's mostly

1716
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: the interviews and the medical right and the medical yeah,

1717
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: the medical and the finding out what everybody's going to

1718
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: do in free agency. Yeah, then the worst step secrets.

1719
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: That's what's fun. Yeah, those are the things. And killer

1720
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I hope that we come out of there

1721
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: was some My goal for the Combine has come out

1722
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: of there with Okay, this is what the Bears are doing.

1723
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: We had that with Kyler. We were there ten minutes

1724
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh yeah, they are not going

1725
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: to keep Josh Rosen now. So that that's why I

1726
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: think we will. That's when Steve Kin went to the

1727
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: podium dress tress like kings Goodness at the Combine. Yeah yeah, man,

1728
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't need to He was like stuffed into a

1729
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 1: point black t shirts ridiculous. He looked up. It just

1730
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: didn't fit, especially him, just supposed to Cliffliff in the

1731
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: same spot, walking into places like this is not gonna work.

1732
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Yeah, tremendous, so much more to come. You

1733
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: listen to Cleveland Ron Daily brought you by Ballly Bet

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01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:55,200
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1737
01:29:55,280 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 1: reading about Elmo's. Um. Yes, the star options are fun

1738
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: over there, the Navy being soup and then they have

1739
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 1: the red Gold tomato juice as starter options that I

1740
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: always think that's fun. Um. The the cocktail, though, it's

1741
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know when it became a thing, that's the

1742
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 1: and there's no real answer for when it became a

1743
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 1: thing over there. The first round cocktail was like in

1744
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: the fifties in Vegas. Yeah, it's where it was like invented.

1745
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: But in terms of like why it's a big deal

1746
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: in Indie or why it's a big deal at Saint Almost,

1747
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. They must I just word of mouth,

1748
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it says that they forty eight

1749
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 1: thousand pounds of shrimp a year. Sometimes I wonder how

1750
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: are there enough Brussels sprouts for everybody? How are there

1751
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: enough shrimps. That's a lot of shrimps, buddy, And that's

1752
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: one restaurant in Indie. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1753
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 1: Good question. Maybe last next week you can find the answers.

1754
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do that next week. No first round pick,

1755
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: We'll just answers the questions answers to us about Indianapolis cuisine. Yeah,

1756
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 1: I like it. I'm not afraid. I know you're not.

1757
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: The next level's coming up next. We're back tomorrow. Cleveland

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01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:12,799
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Speaker 1: Browns Daily, a production of the Cleveland Browns, and eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland