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We had a classic on Thursday night where 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 4: the Niners go on the road kind of if you 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 4: listen to the crowd not really at so far to 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: beat the Rams in overtime and the mac Daddy Mac 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: Jones body cramps and all gets it done. What does 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 4: this mean for Mac Jones and what does it mean 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 4: for the Rams moving forward? 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 5: We will do discuss. 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 4: We're also going to get into the very latest speculation 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: about some change it could be taking place. 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I want you to know that sincerely, 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 7: you're on a slippery slope. 51 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 5: Bro, good god, Oh my god, what. 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: Do you mean by that? 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 5: How do they fit two battleships on a shot glass? 54 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 5: You gotta be kidding me. 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 4: That's a huge bitch, don't I didn't even know what 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: to believe anymore. 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: You go on Instagram and it's like, all right, is 58 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 5: this fake? 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 6: Is it? 60 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: AI? 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 6: Like, I. 62 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 4: Take take your word for it. We did have we 63 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: did have somebody who was rewarded. That would be Duke 64 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: head coach John Shire has been extended through the twenty 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: thirty twenty thirty one season, so this was the guy 66 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: who was picked to take over after Mike Krzyzewski. He's 67 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: slowly but surely gotten the Duchies back to prominence. They've 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: had some good recruiting, they've had some great players. Whatever 69 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: the hell that collapse was in the Final four last 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: year and not ideal with Cooper flag in a game 71 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: that they looked like they were in control. Of over Houston. 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: But it does say something for somebody who takes over 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: for a name like Mike Krzyzewski, and at least it 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: feels like he's got him heading in the right direction, 75 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 4: because that can't be the easiest job in the world. 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: I can't imagine who ever took over for Joe Pa 77 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: after he left had the easiest job in the world 78 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: to try and go in there. 79 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 6: That's probably the worst compeers that ever. 80 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean from a football standpoint. 81 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 6: I mean, I've yeah, yeah, that was that was a situation. 82 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 5: Okay, well, I know you're. 83 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 7: Trying to get levard to talk about it, but I'm 84 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 7: not sure that's the way we go. V. 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts in the Shire session. 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm listen. 87 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 8: It is if they feel like it's the best decision 88 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 8: for the Duke program, great, you know, I'm a Duke fan. Obviously, 89 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 8: they they have our guy there as the head coach 90 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 8: of the football team and Manny Diaz, and I really 91 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 8: like Manny, but I mean Duke. You know, if you 92 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 8: know basketball, you know that Duke always has a formidable 93 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 8: line up, a formidable team, and the standard you know, 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 8: has been set by quite a few you know, it's 95 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 8: a short list of guys who have coached the game 96 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 8: and I have impacted the game from the level that 97 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 8: Mike Skizhsky has. And yeah, man, when you have to 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 8: follow a guy that has had all that success, all 99 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 8: the players that he's coached, and and just all the 100 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 8: accolades that go along with just a brilliant career with 101 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 8: what what Mikezwsky did. Yeah, if you're if you're able, 102 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 8: I always say, you never want to be that first guy. 103 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 8: You want to actually be the next guy after, you know, 104 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 8: because you get the opportunity to come in and somebody 105 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 8: else took all the all the bullets for what you 106 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 8: were going to take, not possibly living up to being 107 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 8: what that legend was that you're replacing. 108 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 6: Sometimes that doesn't work that way. 109 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 5: Bounce back, Kalen de Boris, bounce back. 110 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 8: He's quite a lot of people one week for one week, 111 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 8: you know, that's how it works for a week. 112 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: I would say this though, Shires off to a really 113 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: good start. 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 7: You know, not a lot of people go back and 115 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 7: look at the Duke program before coach k got there. 116 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 7: Really took him until his fourth season where they made 117 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 7: the tournament. I mean think about that for a second, 118 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 7: Like it it took until coach K's fourth season before 119 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 7: they made the NCAA tournament. So so granted, this is 120 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 7: going back in the nineteen eighties, but Shire has been 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 7: able to take a program that had one of the 122 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 7: most recognizable figures. 123 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: Running it for such a long period of time, and 124 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: the model. 125 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 7: Of consistency too with his success there that it's hard 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 7: to put your own stamp on it, but I think 127 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 7: John Shire has done that. They've gotten better every single year. 128 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 7: I think they got bounced out in the round of 129 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 7: thirty two, lead eight, final four, and honestly, in the 130 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 7: final four, like Houston was one of those hot teams, 131 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 7: they had a six point lead with forty seven seconds left. 132 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: Gag joy. I thought it was an awful. 133 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 7: Foul they call it on Cooper flag off that free throw, 134 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 7: which ultimately led to Houston taking the lead and Duke 135 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 7: losing that game. Now, I'm not sure even if Duke wins, 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 7: if they beat Florida, but at the end of the day, 137 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 7: all the number one seeds made it. He was a 138 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 7: part of that, you know, kind of chalky group of 139 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 7: high expectations. Can they make it through? They didn't so 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 7: I love what he's done. I think he's done it 141 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 7: in his own styles, own way. It's a it's a 142 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 7: long term extension form, which is great, I think, great 143 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 7: for recruiting, great for him personally. I do look at 144 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 7: it and just wonder, you know, would he leave people 145 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 7: had talked about so I don't think so, you know, 146 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 7: and look maybe not, you know, maybe he've used this 147 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 7: as a job that he'll be at like coach k 148 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 7: was until he retires, and maybe this is that job 149 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 7: that if you coveted enough, you know, Duke, North Carolina. 150 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what other ones fall into that category. 151 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Are there other way? 152 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 8: Yukon, Well, I would always see that Ford to be 153 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 8: as as blue blood as it is. What would be 154 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 8: the determining factor of if you would stay or if 155 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 8: you would leave? Outside of obvious money? He played there, 156 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 8: he played at Duke, So to me, I would think 157 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 8: that the you know, the sentimental value of being able 158 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 8: to coach your I'm a mater and it is a 159 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 8: blue blood program. Where else are you going to go 160 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 8: where you would have the type of feelings that you 161 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 8: would have going to the place where you played and 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 8: you know, ultimately you're there coaching. 163 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 5: That's why I felt dream job. 164 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 4: That's why I felt bad for like Mike Gundy, although 165 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: that you know, he had a long time there. But 166 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: Scott Frost, how disastrous that was? Like like that's got 167 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: to leave a real sour taste in your mouth, Like, hey, 168 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: I'm going back to where it all started and then 169 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: it ends the way that it did. And I wonder 170 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: how many jobs in college football would you say that's 171 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: the place you don't leave, like a blue blood in 172 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: college football where you say I'm not leaving here, because. 173 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 7: I man, I would have said Notre Dame. And so 174 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 7: Brian Kelly left, He's different. How's that working out for you? 175 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 6: Like? 176 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: But if you think about it, because in college basketball 177 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: yet Kentucky Duke, North Carolina, Kansas? 178 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, buy Cali Perry left left him to Kansas. 179 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: How did I fail to remember Kansas? Chase? 180 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: Well, they've you know, sorry, it's not been the same. 181 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 7: No, I mean it's a blue blood that I should 182 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 7: have been. You know, you would have said Indiana twenty 183 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 7: years ago? Right, and this I mean back LeVar when 184 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 7: you were in college, Like Indiana was the team football wise? 185 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 7: Or basketball? Basketball? 186 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Basketball? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean 187 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: that that program. I think the tough part too, is is. 188 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 7: How they handle the transition, you know, from certain legend 189 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 7: is you know, Coach k to John Shire was probably 190 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 7: easier than Bobby Knight to whoever was next like that, 191 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 7: just you were not going to emulate that style again. 192 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 7: You probably could never even coach that way again. 193 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: But you look at Indiana since then, they've struggled. 194 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 6: Been any good? 195 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 196 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,479 Speaker 2: Uh, And that's a program that has all the resources. 197 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 8: If you don't think any program is if you ask 198 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 8: is there programs that exist that you wouldn't want to leave? Sure, 199 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 8: it's the job that you have. And and when you 200 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 8: want to leave is when there is an opportunity that 201 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 8: comes your way that is worth leaving. And that's just 202 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 8: the reality of it. So it's listen, it's hard to 203 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 8: get jobs. And then you get a job out of 204 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 8: place like Duke, even if I wasn't an alumni of 205 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 8: the school, to get a quality gig like that, why 206 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 8: would you ever want to leave outside of Again, what 207 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 8: the obvious would be, which is I get a better 208 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 8: opportunity with stability. Maybe they give me a guaranteed contract, 209 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 8: maybe they give me a little bit more power in 210 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 8: terms of what I'm able to do as the coach, 211 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 8: the resources that are coming our way as a program, 212 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 8: like there are things that practically, you know, the practical 213 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 8: thought of it. Yeah, you wouldn't leave even if it 214 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 8: was a blue blood, a traditional, amazing college. But I 215 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 8: would find it hard to believe that if you go 216 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 8: to a place that that really really has that type 217 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 8: of a program like Duke has. There's probably so much 218 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 8: there in terms of resources that it wouldn't make sense 219 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 8: to leave, other than to think that maybe the inevitable 220 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 8: was coming, which was they were probably thinking of getting 221 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 8: getting rid of you anyway, something to that effect. 222 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 4: I would say, where would you say if James Franklin 223 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: or if Marcus Freeman were to leave that you would say, oh, 224 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 4: that's a step up from where you are. 225 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: I don't the NFL. 226 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 7: Yeah, somebody say for Marcus Ohio State because that's his 227 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 7: alma mater, and it is you know, it's a program 228 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 7: that has been built up, it's had a ton of success, 229 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 7: It's obviously had success versus entertain So I think some 230 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 7: might throw that in there, but I just, I mean, 231 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 7: I'm not sure what are their jobs out there in 232 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 7: college football? 233 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: You throw them category. 234 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 6: I don't think there is. 235 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 8: I think there's a you could go, but I think 236 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 8: him even going to Ohio State would be a parallel 237 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 8: or excuse me, a horizontal move. It'd be a side step. 238 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 8: I don't think that would be a step up in 239 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 8: terms of brands. I don't think it would be a 240 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 8: step up. Like you said, the sentimental value that he 241 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 8: was a LB there, like, okay, that may make sense, 242 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 8: but I mean sometimes familiarity can can breed, you know 243 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 8: that that whole contempt, and sometimes it could work against you, 244 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 8: you know, like people expect things of you, you know, 245 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 8: whatever it may be. It may be fair, maybe unfair, 246 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 8: but it isn't always great going to be at the 247 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 8: place where you came from. You know, you're just you 248 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 8: just may be judged differently. So, I mean, you mentioned 249 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 8: Scott Frost, and how do you feel after after you've 250 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 8: been what you've been to them as a player, you 251 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 8: go there and it doesn't work out the way you like, 252 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 8: because at some point it's not going to work out, 253 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 8: Like that's kind of the coaching the coaching profession. At 254 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 8: some point it's not going to work out. So at 255 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 8: that point in time, how do you feel about the breakup, 256 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 8: like is it worth? 257 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,119 Speaker 6: Is it worth. 258 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 8: Ruining your your feelings of the institution that that you 259 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 8: went and got educated at. 260 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: It's got a tainted for a little bit at least, it's. 261 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 8: Got to, if not forever, you got to feel like 262 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 8: you were let down, because what coach ever feels like 263 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 8: they really should be fired. I mean honestly, like give 264 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 8: me another chance, Like you're a competitor, Like give me 265 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 8: a little bit more time. 266 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 5: Mike, Mike. 267 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: So, Mike Gundy was at in Stillwater for thirty five 268 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: years in some capacity, and he could probably I mean 269 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: there's probably hard feelings and he's bummed out, but I 270 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: would say after a certain amount of time, I could 271 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: see him being like, yeah, but you know what, it 272 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: was a great run to just run its course. Scott 273 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: Frost was a disaster, like it was bad. 274 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'm I mean, look bad the way it ended, 275 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: we can call it a disaster. There was some issues 276 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: kind of early on. 277 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 7: There was times where you felt like maybe they were 278 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 7: about ready to kind of break, you know, kind of 279 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 7: build it up, and it just never really got there. 280 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 7: And I think part of the issue is and Matt 281 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 7: Rule's done a great job now and looking at their 282 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 7: administration office now and how they viewed Nebraska is a 283 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 7: lot of the older blue blood programs, they have to 284 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 7: kind of change the way they think and see their 285 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 7: program within today's world. Like it's almost like when people 286 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 7: say that that phrase, like meet people where they are, 287 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 7: it's the exact same thing to me when you go 288 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 7: about hiring a coach for some of these blue blood programs, 289 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 7: like you have to meet that program where they are. 290 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 7: Too many times or too often you'll find programs that 291 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 7: are blue blood programs that are live in the past 292 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 7: and they're trying to meet a coach who's trying to 293 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 7: take them into the twenty first century, and they're still 294 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 7: hanging on to the stuff they did in the past. 295 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 7: And then they come up and they say, well, that's 296 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 7: not how we do it here, or that's not our tradition. Look, 297 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 7: it's twenty twenty five. The college sports world has been 298 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 7: turned upside down, between nil the transfer portal, the amount 299 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 7: of money that's now involved, Like there wasn't like this 300 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 7: thirty years ago, tv rights deals, even what coaches were 301 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 7: being paid. I think Philip Folmer is the first coach 302 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 7: to make a million bucks that was like twenty five 303 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 7: years ago. 304 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: Think about that. Now guys get like ten million a year. 305 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: Was he really the first Jesus? 306 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: And so the reality to what LeVar said too. 307 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 7: And the point is it's hard to stay someplace like 308 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 7: Gundi did or anywhere else, because you'll get to a 309 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 7: point where someone looks the job you're doing and they 310 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 7: think you're overpaid. They think you're compensated too much. And 311 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 7: when you're at john Shire, just to go back to 312 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 7: how he got into this subject, someone comes to you 313 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 7: and just says, you know, hey, you had a subpar 314 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 7: season with a great recruiting class. 315 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: Happened. 316 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 7: You know, There's gonna be times with those injuries. There's 317 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 7: gonna be times we have bad years. There's gonna be 318 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 7: times when you miss on guys or guys are slow 319 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 7: to develop, you're not quite there. People don't want to 320 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 7: hear that when they're at some of the top programs. 321 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 7: They believe that they should always live at the top. 322 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 7: So you know, it becomes a really really difficult task. 323 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 7: I think for you know what, John Shire or anyone 324 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 7: else who goes back to their alma mater, albeit a 325 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 7: blue blood where those expectations are there every single year 326 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 7: for them. So I'm happy for me you got the extension. 327 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 7: I think he deserves it. He's done a tremendous shob 328 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 7: filling in for coach k Not many people could do 329 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 7: something like that. But how do you guys feel about 330 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 7: the NCAA tournament expanding the seventy six teams? 331 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 5: And I see that, right, it's just what we need. 332 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: Let's throw some more teams in there. Why not? They 333 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 5: have to have more because we can't figure it out 334 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 5: in sixty eight teams. Let's add more. What is this 335 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: seventy six? Now? Why don't just make it an even 336 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: eighty and just go from there. 337 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't know if you care or not, 338 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: but I look at it. 339 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 7: I go, all right, look at most professional sports leagues, 340 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 7: they don't quite have half the teams make it. It's 341 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 7: usually somewhere below that, like forty percent, forty four, whatever 342 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 7: it is. I mean, you think about the NFL, is 343 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 7: fourteen teams make it? Now out of thirty two, what's 344 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 7: the what's the NBA had? How many teams making the NBA? 345 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 7: I guess if you count the plan because that really 346 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 7: is part of the tournament. Even though it's they don't 347 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 7: technically make it part of the tournament. 348 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what else do you call anything after 349 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: the regular season? 350 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: Twenty plan there you go. 351 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 7: So there's there's a much greater percentage of teams at 352 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 7: least the pro level. 353 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: This is about. And this is the funny thing. I 354 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: was like researching this. 355 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 7: I go how many Division one men's basketball teams are there? 356 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 7: And every single site was like more than three hundred 357 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 7: and fifty. How'm like, so there's not an exact number, 358 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 7: like they're like, it's like an ebbs and flows of 359 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 7: programs that are like Division one or not. Anyway, the 360 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 7: point is if you just seventy six, that's like football too. Yeah, 361 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 7: but it's a little more standile. There's like one hundred 362 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 7: and thirty four. Like I could give you an exact number, 363 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 7: you know, like last shock, I can give you an 364 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 7: exact number. 365 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: It's just weird and you're like looking it up. It's 366 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: hard to get an exact number. 367 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 7: But a little less than twenty two percent of the 368 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 7: teams when I was shot at making it, And so 369 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 7: I don't know if like you look at that and 370 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 7: you go, all right, like maybe college football should have more. 371 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 7: College football is like nine percent, there's like one hundred 372 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 7: and thirty four teams twelve make it something like that, 373 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 7: which I mean and by the way, I'm not even 374 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 7: sure if we could really. 375 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 8: Make it harder to figure out, it would be way 376 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 8: harder to figure out how to keep adding teams without 377 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 8: impacting the season because you only have so much time. Like, yeah, 378 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 8: I mean the ability to be able to play the 379 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 8: games quicker. You know the fact that you can play 380 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 8: a game today, then you can play a game after 381 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 8: one day's rest. Hell and basketball, you could play it. 382 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 8: You could play more than one game and one day, right. 383 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 7: Right, But but again you're looking back to the NFL model, 384 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 7: you have fourteen to thirty two. So like what you 385 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 7: do is you would do away with the conference championship games. 386 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 7: And so if you want to go to sixteen, or 387 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 7: even if you want to go to thirty two, you 388 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 7: do it with conference championship games. Those games are now 389 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 7: sold as part of the expanded playoff package. 390 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: And then you have the regular season. 391 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 7: When they play nine conference games or ten conference games 392 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 7: if you get there. That's how they determine who the 393 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 7: conference champion is, and they'll do it based on they'll 394 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 7: be tie breaking scenarios and all that stuff, but like 395 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 7: that's ultimately how do you do it? I mean, that's 396 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 7: how we do divisions in the NFL, It's how we 397 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 7: do I mean, we eventually playoff for a conference championship. 398 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 7: So maybe maybe that format, that expanded format. You know, 399 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 7: they play through some sort of semi final then final 400 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 7: for their conference and those are like part of the 401 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 7: playoff but also qualifiers to ultimately. 402 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: Win the conference. 403 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 7: You know, maybe you go that route, but that would 404 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 7: that'd be assuming that all things are equal. 405 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: Then that's the problem with college football is we don't 406 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: look at we don't look at the. 407 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 7: ACC the Big twelve as equals to the Big ten 408 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 7: of the SEC. So it kind of stands in their 409 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 7: way of that that thought at least. But I don't know, 410 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 7: I don't have a problem with it. I mean, I 411 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 7: love that time of year. I think it's so much fun. 412 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 7: If people haven't been to Vegas during that time of year, 413 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 7: it's it's absolutely electric. 414 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 4: So you know, I don't know that game's more fun. 415 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if there is a solution to this. 416 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 4: But when I look at College of Basketball and I 417 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: go what could they do to improve it? I don't 418 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 4: think let's add more teams to the NCAA Tournament. I think, 419 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 4: why don't you make the regular season better? Like the 420 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: focus should be on how can we make the regular 421 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: season more entertaining and better, especially if it's in the 422 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 4: middle for a decent amount, if it's in the middle 423 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 4: of football season, and I just like, instead it'd say, well, 424 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 4: let's just add on to the NCAA tournament. Man just 425 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: sixty eight's fine, it's awesome, Like it's awesome about it is. 426 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: But when has the regular season ever mattered for college basketball? 427 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: Man? Fact Like it used to be to where you 428 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: would get excited about big matchups in college basketball, like 429 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: Big mondays the East. 430 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 6: That was when the Big East was the Big East 431 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 6: and stuff like that. It's not. 432 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 8: The landscape of the game has changed so dramatically, man Like. 433 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 6: It's it's it's not the same. 434 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 8: You don't get to know the players the way that 435 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 8: you you used to. It's the bonds between the players 436 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 8: and the fans that the relationship. 437 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 6: It's not. It's it's just not the same. 438 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 8: The landscape doesn't allow for it in college basketball. 439 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 6: It's it's just it's very different. 440 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 8: It's it's very transactional, and it's always Basketball has always 441 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 8: been a very transactional type of sport, but it's even 442 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 8: more so nowadays. I mean, even knowing coaches is difficult. 443 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 8: I mean back in the day, you knew it was 444 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 8: a Tartanian, you knew it was a Fisher, or or 445 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 8: a Thompson, you know, a Nolan Richardson, you know, or Harrison, 446 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 8: Nolan Harrison. You know Richards Richardson, Richard richards Yeah, Harrison 447 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 8: was my teammate. That Nolan Harrison was my teammate. But yeah, 448 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 8: I mean you knew who these guys were, and you 449 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 8: knew who the players were, you know, and that's what 450 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 8: created such signature, you know, signature brands like Duke, you know, 451 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 8: and and coaches like Mike Krzyzewski. It's not really like 452 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 8: that anymore. It's not so you have a different you 453 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 8: have a different level of trying to market, brand and promote, 454 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 8: you know, the game of college basketball, especially the regular season, 455 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 8: because you don't know nobody, you know, there's no real 456 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 8: connection to it. You're not looking at it like, all right, 457 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 8: is this the team? I mean, there was a little 458 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 8: bit of it with Duke last year, like how good 459 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 8: could they be But you know, you were looking at 460 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 8: teams and like, can this team go undefeated? 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We have to recap last week. 546 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: It was a rough week. 547 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 7: Rough Week one five and one picked a lot of 548 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 7: the big boy games. Bama Georgia was conflicted. Went with 549 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 7: Georgia Bama got took care of business. LSU gett a 550 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 7: point and a half at Old Miss. Just kind of 551 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 7: needed to see it from Old Miss. Obviously, they proved 552 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 7: me wrong with that one too. Florida State at UVA. 553 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 7: What a win for Uva. They had to juice the 554 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 7: entire time that game. That was I don't want to 555 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 7: say shocking, but definitely surprising. Chandler Morris played his tail 556 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 7: off happy for the Cavaliers. Wahu wa to see them 557 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 7: perform that way, but it definitely didn't kill one of 558 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 7: those bets. 559 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: Washington versus Ohio State. 560 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 7: I really thought first road Big Ten game for the 561 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 7: Buckeyes might be some troubles, but that defense is legit. 562 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 7: I mean, Don Williams Junior is a really good player. 563 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 7: Jonah Coleman's one of the best running backs in the 564 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 7: Big Ten. Denzel Boston, I mean, they've got players, now 565 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 7: tell them six points. 566 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. 567 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 7: And then USC Illinois, I'll be the first to tell you, 568 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 7: uh that secondary fair ill Ainoyan. 569 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: I think they were missing four or five starters. And 570 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 2: if there's one thing. 571 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 7: That USC going into that game does extremely well store 572 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 7: on the football round. 573 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: They still did it. 574 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 7: But Illinois's offense stepped up a completely different team from 575 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 7: what we saw the week prior versus Indiana, So a 576 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 7: number of losses. Tough to go buy TCU Arizona State. 577 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 7: They pushed and then obviously the only winner. I took 578 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 7: the three and a half points in Oregon, who obviously 579 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 7: went out right. Well, yeah, I had to recap it. 580 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 7: But this week's games another week with a lot of 581 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 7: big lines here, LeVar, I know your sensitive about it. 582 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 7: There's nothing I can do, all right, they can't win 583 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 7: a white I don't. I don't know to tell you, 584 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 7: all right, Autohouse State, I know, trust me. I knew 585 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 7: this was going to come up. I knew it would 586 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 7: be a soft spot for you. 587 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: I get it. 588 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing we can do about it, though, all right, 589 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 5: do your wins, all right? 590 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 7: This week we've got Dabo what ten and sixteen on 591 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 7: the season, so below five hundred. 592 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: Not that last week kind of tarpoon things. 593 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 7: But we're gonna get back on track this week, and 594 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 7: it starts off with a battle on the ACC Dabo 595 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 7: or Dabbo, depending on how some people call them. 596 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: Pointoi for some reason calls them Dabo. 597 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 5: It's weird. 598 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 7: Clemson's taken on UNC and they're laying what thirteen and 599 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 7: a half? Last time I checked fourteen fourteen? Around fourteen 600 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 7: now there on DraftKings. At some point, Clemson's gotta figure 601 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 7: this out, right, I mean at some point, and I 602 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 7: would imagine there will probably more Clemson fans in Chapel 603 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 7: Hill than North Carolina. I mean, that's that's my bet 604 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 7: on this. But Clemson's the way more talented team, It's 605 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 7: a proven track record. This year has been rough, but 606 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 7: I think this could be a get back on track 607 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 7: game for them. I'm gonna lay the fourteen points and 608 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 7: Clemson on the road here. Next up one that should 609 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 7: make LeVar Arrton happy. Penn State traveling out to LA 610 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 7: to take on the Bruins. The Brugans have already fired 611 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 7: their head coach. They're struggling offensively. This is a get 612 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 7: right game for James Franklin. Historically he's had no issue 613 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 7: whatsoever covering these big spreads. 614 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: And the line is twenty four and a half. Lay them. 615 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 7: Penn State will pound UCLA, not be on to score, 616 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 7: and then Penn State's offense will run. 617 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: All over the UCLA defense. So love laying the big 618 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: number there. 619 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 7: With the Ndney Lions Next up, a sneaky, really good battle, 620 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 7: and you wonder if Washington gets beat twice by Ohio 621 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 7: State or how they come out of that game. Washington's 622 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 7: going to head all the way across the country to 623 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 7: Maryland and they're getting. 624 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: Six and a half points. 625 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 7: I thought the udub offense got a little bit exposed 626 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 7: last week Versusale State defense. Although there's just kind of 627 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 7: that good. But I've been hyping up Malak Washington all 628 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 7: year long, the true freshman quarterback. He could sling it 629 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 7: and they've got playmakers on the outside. So I like 630 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 7: Maryland at home. Tough game, big game, but a West 631 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 7: Coast team that you know, again, different time zones. I'll 632 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 7: take the six and a half in Maryland. Next up, 633 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 7: another great matchup. This Houston team has I would say 634 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 7: exceeded expectations probably for most of the Big Twelve, but 635 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 7: a big number here. They're hosting Texas Tech, who I 636 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 7: believe to be the best team in the Big Twelve. 637 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 7: But in eleven and a half points, that's the number. 638 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 7: It's a little bit too much for me. I think 639 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 7: this Houston team can score with others. Barren more than 640 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 7: the quarterback for Texas Tech. Remember he was knocked out 641 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 7: the last game they played versus Utah. Will Hammond came in, 642 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 7: played phenomenal more will be back for this one. So 643 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 7: go in and take the eleven and a half points 644 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 7: with Houston and our final matchup TCU at home taken 645 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 7: on Colorado. 646 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: It's a big number. It's thirteen and a half points. Look, 647 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: I think this Colorado team has struggled. 648 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 7: They've they've kind of had a rotating charo quarterback there 649 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 7: for them and on the road versus a team that 650 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 7: I think TCU is flying under the radar as one 651 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 7: of the best teams in the Big Twelve. So I'm 652 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 7: laying the thirteen and a half points. See who's lost 653 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 7: two of their last three. The struggling to put up points, 654 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 7: especially when they face powerful competition, only average about twenty 655 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 7: points of games. So joshuaver has been phenomenal this year 656 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 7: for TCU. I like the Horned Frogs. Lay the thirteen 657 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 7: and a half. 658 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 4: Here's what I'm talking about right there? You know what? 659 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 4: What a persevere Yeah, buddy, maybe this would be a 660 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 4: better week. Rough week, crazy week in college football. Get 661 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: them up off the stool ready for another round. 662 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: Well, I mean again, weeks. 663 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 7: Ago three and one really could have been four and 664 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 7: ol but said we got cut out cut when's whens. 665 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: It's like if a tree falls, it's like it never existed. 666 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 5: A tree falls in the forest. Is anybody here? 667 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: You know? 668 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 5: By the way, uh Houston now getting twelve and a 669 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 5: half on twelve and a half. 670 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 8: There you go. 671 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: So I moved up a little bit. 672 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so, uh so there's that. 673 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 4: But uh but we are in agreement that Penn State's 674 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 4: going to lay the hamber on UCLA. 675 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: Throttle them, come on, throttle them. And if they don't, 676 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: and if they don't, I'm taking out of Lvar. 677 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 7: I'm letting you know that right now, LaVar like no 678 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 7: bs like I know it means so much to you know, 679 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 7: it's er all my money, I get all that. 680 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: But at some point your boys got to start playing 681 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: up through the capabilities. 682 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 6: I hope. 683 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 8: So that's all I can say. I mean, I don't play, 684 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 8: and I don't cope, So all I can do is 685 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 8: root and hope and and yeah, do you get nervous 686 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 8: feel good about this week? 687 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 5: Do you get nervous watching your Alma maters play? 688 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 8: I don't get nervous. I just I want to see 689 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 8: them win, that's all. Yeah, I get I feel the feelings, 690 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 8: I feel the emotions of it. 691 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 6: For certain absolutely I was. 692 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: I mean again, I'll pull back the curt a little bit. 693 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 7: You know, it's starting a collective and being like more 694 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 7: intricately involved you you kind of have to separate the 695 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 7: emotional from you know, your your fandom for it, because 696 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 7: otherwise you can get kind of wrapped up into it. 697 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 7: But when you start to get to know some of 698 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 7: the players and that whole thing, it just it lends 699 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 7: you to to not get nervous but get excited, and 700 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 7: then you know when there's losses, your soul searching at times. 701 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 2: So I can only imagine what it's like for LeVar. 702 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't have a son yet that's playing, so. 703 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 7: That would if I had a kid who was on 704 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 7: the team, I could be I don't know, yeah, i'd 705 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 7: I'd be a mess. 706 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna be a mess. 707 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 6: I don't know. 708 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 8: I think you'd be good. It's always you always think 709 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 8: it's going to be something that it's not. Like when 710 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 8: I got drafted, I thought i'd cry, like, oh my gosh, 711 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 8: I finally made it. 712 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 6: They call my name. I was like all right, let's go, 713 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. 714 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 8: Like it seems like every significant moment I thought I 715 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 8: would cry when I saw my daughter and my son 716 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 8: on the field for the first time. 717 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 5: No, oh my god, you got no heart. Huh, you 718 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 5: do have a heart. I'm not numb at all, not 719 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 5: at all. 720 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 2: What is going on? 721 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 6: It just doesn't It just doesn't play out that way. 722 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 8: It's like I feel more triumphant, like I feel like 723 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 8: strong in that moment, like dang, like look at my daughter, 724 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 8: or look at look at my boy coming out on 725 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 8: the field. 726 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 4: Like I got emotion on my son's T ball game, 727 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: at his te ball game, I got a try I 728 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: hit it. I just and my wife was like, are 729 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 4: you crying? Like are you are you crying? I was 730 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 4: like no, it's just I'm so happy for him. Like, well, 731 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 4: here's more happiness. 732 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 5: I kiss my ass. 733 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: No frighting fall, that is true. 734 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 5: I don't know. 735 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 8: I think sometimes sometimes emotions get me. Like I saw 736 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 8: one of my kids that I mentored since he was 737 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 8: in the sixth grade seventh grade and was with him 738 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 8: all the way through and he ended up going to 739 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 8: Penn State and and played at Penn State. Finished that marshal, 740 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 8: but he just became a fireman and and I saw 741 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 8: him for the first time, and I got, I welled up. 742 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 8: I got a little teary eyd I had. I had 743 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 8: a kid I mentored that ended up becoming a marine, 744 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 8: and and a lot of it was the time we 745 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 8: had spent and you know, just bonded, and he ended 746 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 8: up seeing himself being more than just a football player, 747 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 8: and it turned into him going into the military, and 748 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 8: he's living an amazing life now. And he just had twins, 749 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 8: which is pretty cool. But I cried at his wedding, 750 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 8: like I had, I had, I got welled up at 751 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 8: his wedding. I think I think it was significant seeing 752 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 8: my son and daughter on the field. But I think 753 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 8: I think what would make it more emotional is if 754 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 8: there was something I don't I don't know, like something 755 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 8: a little bit more to it, like if they're like 756 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 8: in the National Championship game. 757 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 4: Or I don't know, you know how cool it's going 758 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 4: to be if he gets some burn time and it's 759 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 4: the first time and it's at the Rose Bowl this weekend. 760 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 6: That would be pretty cool, man, awesome, that would be me. 761 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 7: You were just there too, You're just there this week, Yeah, yesterday, 762 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 7: think about think about like that, like omen you know. 763 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 8: I mean, and he wasn't supposed to travel, you know, 764 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 8: so there's there's always an effect of it. Yeah, And 765 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 8: I'll make sure I have my my Louisiana Hot Sauce 766 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 8: in my back pocket too. 767 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 3: You know. 768 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 8: It's the perfect balance of Pepper's, you know, vinegar and salt. 769 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 8: And if I am able to have some wings, nachos 770 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 8: or burgers while I'm there at the game, well, I'll 771 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 8: make sure I hit a couple of tailgates up, get 772 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 8: some food and use that bold, handcrafted flavor of the 773 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 8: original Louisiana Hot Sauce. That's Louisiana Hot guys by you something. 774 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 5: That I was just gonna say that, man, just gonna 775 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 5: I was thinking the same thing, man. Yeah, all right. 776 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 4: Coming up next here we are going to have a 777 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 4: discussion about a real hot topic in the world of sports. 778 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 5: But should it be right here on FSR. 779 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 780 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 3: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar ering to 781 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: and and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three 782 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 3: am Pacific. 783 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, 784 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 4: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming 785 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 4: off top of next hour a little over ten minutes 786 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 4: from now. Somebody in the NFL not thrilled, not thrilled 787 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 4: they're taking accountability, but apparently the team is pissed. We'll 788 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 4: get into that for you again coming up here a 789 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 4: little over ten minutes from now. You guys have some 790 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 4: thoughts on the WNBA commissioner kind of ripping into Caitlin 791 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 4: Clark and some of their players. And now you've got 792 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 4: players from the WNBA that have now taken shots at 793 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 4: the commissioner saying, you know, we've got really poor leadership, 794 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. I'll be honest with you, I 795 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: think a lot of this conversation about the WNBA is manufactured. 796 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 4: It feels like this is ESPN and others are really 797 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 4: trying to force the WNBA down. Everybody's throat have of 798 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 4: that golf clap, and I just I have a hard 799 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 4: time getting into some of the drama in the WNBA 800 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 4: anymore tried to give it a chance. It just feels 801 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 4: like somebody's always complaining about something and they're all there's 802 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 4: always infighting in the league, and I don't understand it. 803 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't understand these topics today. Man, y'all got 804 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 8: this cause I don't, you know, I don't care like that. 805 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 8: The WNBA is like what, it's the playoffs right now? 806 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 7: Is that what it is? 807 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 5: I don't even know. 808 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't either. 809 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 5: They're still going on. It's the playoffs, Yeah, it is 810 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 5: the playoffs. I think the finals are about to start. 811 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 8: All right, the Mercury play the Aces, Like that's what 812 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 8: we have going on right now? Okay, yeah, Like, if 813 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 8: anybody on this show can name me two players off 814 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 8: of each team, two like right now, no looking up, 815 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 8: no cheating. If you can name me two players off 816 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 8: of the Murky Theory and the Aces right now, I 817 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 8: give you straight props, straight props, three, two one exactly. 818 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 6: Nobody knows because nobody cares. 819 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 8: And listen, I know that there are some avid sports 820 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 8: fans out there or that are super dedicated to the 821 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 8: w NBA the sport in general. 822 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 6: I'm a supporter of women's sports. I'm not. I'm not 823 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 6: trying to diminish women's sports. 824 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 8: I'm really not. I'm just saying I'm just not. Really, 825 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 8: I don't know I'm not me personally. I'm just not 826 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 8: into it, that's all. I love volleyball, love volleyball. 827 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 4: I just think everything about the everything about that league 828 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 4: is drama and not the good kind. And I just 829 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 4: I have a really hard time giving it any attention 830 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 4: or giving it. 831 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: Anythun till you watched all the games. 832 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 4: No, I don't really not a fan. I'm sorry you're 833 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 4: betting on some of them now. I mean, let'sten, I'll 834 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 4: bet on it, but I'll bet on anything. I bet 835 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 4: on a horse to run backwards during COVID so but 836 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 4: think I actually won that one? Yeah, big time. 837 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 2: I just quickly asked this though, what league and what league? 838 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: Do the players like the commissioner? 839 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 5: None? 840 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: So, like, why is this a surprise? 841 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 7: Like we're acting like there's there're all there's disgruntlement between 842 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 7: the commissioner and the players. 843 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's. 844 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 7: Out the commissioner works for the owners, Like there's always 845 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 7: that dividing line. 846 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: They don't care about the players. It's all bs like. 847 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the reality of it. 848 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 4: I just think everything that was okay with me, Every 849 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 4: storyline that comes out of there is drama. Like it's 850 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 4: just like, why can't they just make it hot? But 851 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 4: can't they make it spicy? 852 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 6: You know, we gotta do it again. 853 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 8: We got to do spicy on to make sure you 854 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 8: do Louisiana hot, all right, spicy hot, you know. 855 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 3: What it is. 856 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 8: Let's taste good on your food, your your wings, your nachos, 857 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 8: all that stuff. 858 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 6: Just make sure you use some Louisiana hot alright, and 859 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 6: buy you some