Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting alongside West Hodkowits. We're coming
Speaker 1: to hear from our studios at Lambolefield and West. This
Speaker 1: is actually our final show for a while. We're going
Speaker 1: to take a break from Packers Unscripted from now until
Speaker 1: shortly before the Draft. We will be back with with
Speaker 1: more episodes as we get closer to draft time. But
Speaker 1: because this is our last show for a while, I
Speaker 1: want to kind of do a post Combine draft preview.
Speaker 1: I guess you might say, as far as the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers are concerned, and I know the fans are
Speaker 1: very anxious, very curious to see what the Packers are
Speaker 1: going to do on the defensive side of the ball
Speaker 1: in this upcoming draft, and a lot of talk is
Speaker 1: about pass rushers and cornerbacks. Do you have a priority list,
Speaker 1: so to speak, in terms of the positions and how
Speaker 1: the Packers go about this or what's your view of
Speaker 1: the approach. That's a great question, Mike. I guess my
Speaker 1: approach to this would be go pass rusher early. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that has to be at fourteen, but the
Speaker 1: Packers also pick at forty five. So I just think
Speaker 1: in the first two rounds you gotta get a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: even because it's like, well you have to replace Clay
Speaker 1: Matthews or Nick Perry. You just got to add to
Speaker 1: that rotation. You gotta get deeper there. I think Reggie
Speaker 1: Gilbert's a really fine young prospect. You know, adding Vince
Speaker 1: Biegel last year was good, but then he got hurt Um.
Speaker 1: They just need more options there because it's not just
Speaker 1: what you can do on the boundary, it's it's how
Speaker 1: you can be used in other ways too, in the
Speaker 1: sub packages and rushing inside like they did with Julius Peppers.
Speaker 1: So for me, that's an emphasis. And in hearing what
Speaker 1: people have said about this draft class, I think there's
Speaker 1: some really solid prospects we already outlined some of them
Speaker 1: that can be had probably in those first fifty picks.
Speaker 1: And again i'm Wes hot Cooits not my title to
Speaker 1: b GM, but I just think that this is a
Speaker 1: really good opportunity for the Packers to potentially add another
Speaker 1: edge rusher into that equation. Yeah, and we'll see if
Speaker 1: the thoughts change over the next several weeks. But the
Speaker 1: other thing that we're hearing is that a lot of
Speaker 1: drafts experts saying, as far as the edge rusher type
Speaker 1: of position goes, not a whole lot of depth in
Speaker 1: this draft class. Last year, I believe it was somewhere
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood of seventeen to twenty total edge rushers
Speaker 1: were drafted over the course of the of the seven rounds.
Speaker 1: They're not talking about that type of depth at at
Speaker 1: that position in this draft. So if you like one
Speaker 1: and he's there early when you pick, you might need
Speaker 1: to get him because I don't know if a guy
Speaker 1: like a Vince Bagel is going to be there on
Speaker 1: Day three. Yeah, and there's there's some analysis that Brian
Speaker 1: good Constant is his scouts are going to have to
Speaker 1: run in terms of trying to calculate the value of
Speaker 1: these guys. Who's looking at which players where these guys
Speaker 1: could potentially fall, because this is an opportunity to pick
Speaker 1: at fourteen. Uh, and you don't want to overdraft a
Speaker 1: guy just because you need somebody at that position. You
Speaker 1: want to be able to find the right fit. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: to my on my eye, and again one man's opinion here,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem like cornerback is a spot either
Speaker 1: that fourteen just has a guy that's screaming to be
Speaker 1: taken inside that that mark there just isn't someone of
Speaker 1: that level. I don't think good prospects, but probably a
Speaker 1: little bit more on the deeper side than what edge
Speaker 1: Rusher is in terms of where you could get a
Speaker 1: potential playmaker. The Packers have had success before finding those
Speaker 1: kind of guys in the middle rounds could go and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the certainly offense is certainly on the
Speaker 1: table as well. I just think, as we've talked about
Speaker 1: during this whole process, picking that early that they're gonna
Speaker 1: be you know, have a lot less projection and I
Speaker 1: don't want to call it a guestimation in terms of
Speaker 1: who's going to be available at like let's say it
Speaker 1: changes the game for and good ocunts. But it also
Speaker 1: is something you have to keep in mind too, is
Speaker 1: that you want to make sure you get the right
Speaker 1: value there. So whether that's trading, whether that's finding player there,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be an interesting game the Packers will have
Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, and we'll see you mentioned the cornerback
Speaker 1: position and obviously it depends on who's available and and
Speaker 1: how the draft falls in those first thirteen picks, then
Speaker 1: when the Packers are on the clock at pick number fourteen.
Speaker 1: But just an illustration of where the league is headed,
Speaker 1: um and and really what what team's value right now.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me at all if for the third
Speaker 1: time in the last four years, Damarius Randall Kevin King
Speaker 1: that the Packers potentially use their first pick again three
Speaker 1: times in four years at the cornerback spot, wouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: me at all. Well, there's a reason why we're talking,
Speaker 1: Mike about quarterbacks getting thirty million dollars a year now,
Speaker 1: and it's because it's a pass oriented league and that's
Speaker 1: where everything starts. You need to have guys they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to combat that. Packers had a lot of
Speaker 1: success for a number of years, and not to say
Speaker 1: they're not doing it now, but where they found the
Speaker 1: Sam Shields of the world. You know, an undrafted free agency,
Speaker 1: you had a guy like Trumont Williams gets signed over
Speaker 1: after spending time on the Houston Texans practice squad to
Speaker 1: become a Pro Bowl cornerback. They signed you know, Charles Woodson,
Speaker 1: who is at at that point not really a downturn,
Speaker 1: but really hadn't been the kind of player that he
Speaker 1: sort of made his name on. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to say the Packers got lucky, but they really lightning
Speaker 1: struck quite a few times in a row, and they
Speaker 1: had a lot of success with it in the defense thrived.
Speaker 1: It's getting more difficult to find that though, because with
Speaker 1: how spread out these defenses are getting, teams need four
Speaker 1: capable cornerbacks at any given time. It's not just a
Speaker 1: two corner league anymore. And I think for that reason,
Speaker 1: you see teams, not just the Green Bay Packers, having
Speaker 1: to use those early round draft picks to find a
Speaker 1: guy that'll fit in because in most cases, Mike, they're
Speaker 1: going to have to play as a rookie. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you know, you have just one or two injuries
Speaker 1: and suddenly you're going to the fifth and the sixth
Speaker 1: cornerback on your roster against against those dime packages, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it really is the position where you can never
Speaker 1: have enough, not enough, and not enough versatility is all right? Well,
Speaker 1: with that, we're going to toss to a breakback with
Speaker 1: more and Packers unscripted right after this Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Packers unscripted Mike Spofford right here West Hodko, WIT's all
Speaker 1: the way over there west, offensive side of the ball here.
Speaker 1: In terms of a draft preview for the Packers, there's
Speaker 1: a long term need I think at wide receiver we've
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, who's the next Jordy Nelson. Can
Speaker 1: the Packers find that kind of guy in this draft
Speaker 1: to pair with Davante Adams? Maybe long term tight end,
Speaker 1: a position the Packers have right now as of as
Speaker 1: of the time we're taping this episode, have only Lance
Speaker 1: Kendricks an Emmanuel Bird under contract at the position offensive guard.
Speaker 1: The jr R. Evans situation. Don't know at this point
Speaker 1: if he's coming back or not. The Packers may have
Speaker 1: an open starting spot there. I think the one position
Speaker 1: the Packers maybe aren't aren't necessarily concerned about offensively um
Speaker 1: in this draft is running back. Because of the three
Speaker 1: picks taken last year. You also have the backup quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: and it will some competition be brought in for for
Speaker 1: Brett Humley. Of something Mike McCarthy indicated at the combine
Speaker 1: he'd like to do. What do you see as uh,
Speaker 1: you know, do you have a priority? You know, have
Speaker 1: you prioritized the list on the offensive side of the
Speaker 1: ball here? Well, here's the thing, Mike, and I know
Speaker 1: I I caught some flak from fans due to my
Speaker 1: viewpoints on s Kwon Barclay before the combine. I am
Speaker 1: a big enough man to admit when I'm wrong, and
Speaker 1: I'll say this is Kwon Barkley is there at fourteen?
Speaker 1: That is rather enticing. I know he had the intangibles,
Speaker 1: That's why everybody was asking about it. And I got
Speaker 1: into this big fight about well, then he's not a
Speaker 1: top five player anymore. But here's the thing that combine
Speaker 1: he put together. He's not going to be there. So
Speaker 1: the question really becomes Mike with probably I would guess
Speaker 1: at least three maybe four quarterbacks being taken before number fourteen,
Speaker 1: who's going to fall heredeed? I mean, because you can't
Speaker 1: take them all. Somebody's got to be available at four teens.
Speaker 1: So you know, where does Quentin Nelson come off the board?
Speaker 1: Where you know, although there isn't really a big receiver
Speaker 1: prospect this year, that's like demanding top five, top ten attention.
Speaker 1: There are some good ones in this draft. Class as well.
Speaker 1: And then also depending on how patient you are, what
Speaker 1: you want to you know, really prioritize. There's some good
Speaker 1: tight end prospects that you and I have really talked
Speaker 1: about as well. So to me outside looking in, it
Speaker 1: just seems like that fourteenth pick, that first round pick
Speaker 1: is destined to be defense. But there are enough offensive
Speaker 1: players available in those first fifteen to twenty picks that
Speaker 1: Brian Goodkins is gonna have a lot of things to
Speaker 1: consider as well. Yeah, and when you look at, obviously
Speaker 1: how the rest of the draft lays out, the Packers
Speaker 1: have their picks in the first three rounds, and then
Speaker 1: on the third day of the draft, rounds four through seven,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be nine selections. I mean, I see the
Speaker 1: Packers in one in some way, shape or form, addressing
Speaker 1: offensive line, tight end, wide receiver. You know, we'll talk
Speaker 1: a little bit later on about just how many picks
Speaker 1: maybe we think the Packers are gonna actually end up
Speaker 1: making with regards to twelve, but there are a lot
Speaker 1: of there are a lot of spots to fill here
Speaker 1: and uh and you know, you look at the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: Like I said, Brett Honley was a fifth round pick,
Speaker 1: a few years ago, Mike McCarthy talked about wanting to
Speaker 1: bring in more competition. We don't know if that's going
Speaker 1: to come through free agency with signing a veteran to
Speaker 1: compete with Hunley for the backup job, or if the
Speaker 1: Packers are going to invest another draft pick in a
Speaker 1: quarterback and and let him duke it out with Hunley
Speaker 1: for preseason playing time and and see who really should
Speaker 1: be the number two guy in Yeah, and then that's
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of a puzzle to a
Speaker 1: little bit of a catch twenty two as well, because
Speaker 1: you kind of have to decide what you're looking for
Speaker 1: then if you go back into the draft, because if
Speaker 1: you d have a guy that's strictly based on potential
Speaker 1: and upside, it's gonna be tough for that young man
Speaker 1: to really push Brett Huntley for that job in year one.
Speaker 1: Maybe down the road could become a viable option. But
Speaker 1: then do you look at maybe a Matt Flynn type
Speaker 1: quarterback who had ample experience could potentially push him. But
Speaker 1: what's his upside? What has hit the long game with him?
Speaker 1: That's a question the package will have to answer. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the offensive line, Really there was only one time
Speaker 1: in Ted Thompson's tenure as GM, they didn't draft an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman was two thousand and fifteen, and it really
Speaker 1: came back to bite them. It was a mistake. You
Speaker 1: definitely want to keep that going because when you have
Speaker 1: to have five of those guys on the field at
Speaker 1: all times, you don't have another option. You have to
Speaker 1: have guys that could potentially fit into different spots. Everybody
Speaker 1: that they've taken recently Michael and then some of the
Speaker 1: guys that they haven't that have come in a street
Speaker 1: free agents like Justin McCrae, have had to play multiple
Speaker 1: positions behind that starting offensive line. Those guys are playing
Speaker 1: a thousand snaps a season. It's tough. Not everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: do what Corey Linsley did this year, going pillar to
Speaker 1: post the entire season, being able to stay on the
Speaker 1: field and then from the receiver position, just briefly to
Speaker 1: touch on that. I don't know what the Packers plans
Speaker 1: are there. Certainly you have things that determined to figure
Speaker 1: out what Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb and the like, But
Speaker 1: it has been sometimes since the Packers have really taken
Speaker 1: a receiver. I think, if you correct me, if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: it is it two thousand two with with Trevor Davis
Speaker 1: Davison throwned out of Cow. Yeah, so early rounds, could
Speaker 1: you be looking at that again like they did in
Speaker 1: two thousand and four team with Davante Adams something to
Speaker 1: consider as well. But certainly with those twelve picks, and
Speaker 1: we'll get into the shortly, it gives them different options
Speaker 1: if they want to move up, if there's a guy
Speaker 1: they like, and certainly if they want to stand pat
Speaker 1: they're gonna end up with a lot of prospects as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've talked obviously about the success at the wide receiver
Speaker 1: position finding guys in the second round. You know, Jennings Nelson, Cobb, Adams,
Speaker 1: James Jones was a third round pick. You know, the
Speaker 1: way things look. You know, I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen contract wise right now with Jordy Nelson and
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, but it just seems to me that, you know,
Speaker 1: if there's a received or prospect there that you see
Speaker 1: as potentially the next Davante Adams are the next Jordy Nelson,
Speaker 1: I gotta believe the Packers are going to pull the
Speaker 1: trigger and set the set up Aaron Rodgers for you
Speaker 1: know the four and five and six years beyond here
Speaker 1: that that would coincide with the extension they just gave
Speaker 1: to Davante Adam. It's the mirror match we talked about
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks, right, you need four of them, five of them.
Speaker 1: It is the same thing with the receivers because as
Speaker 1: we saw this past season with Geroni Wilson the game
Speaker 1: he had against the Cincinnati Bengals, You're gonna need to
Speaker 1: turn to different guys at different times, and then those
Speaker 1: guys have to be ready for that moment. All right.
Speaker 1: With that, we'll throw to a break back with more
Speaker 1: on Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford in this chair, West Hodkowits in that one, Okay, West.
Speaker 1: So everybody's wondering who exactly is going to be there
Speaker 1: for the Packers at pick in the first round. And
Speaker 1: of course, if we knew that, we wouldn't be sitting here.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have other things to do. But um,
Speaker 1: I've said this before and coming back from the combine
Speaker 1: did not change my feeling on this. It really it
Speaker 1: all comes down to these quarterbacks. There are four quarterbacks
Speaker 1: being talked about as being drafted in the first round,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen from Wyoming, Sam Donald from USC, Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: from u C. L A. And Baker Mayfield from Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: If there's a run on quarterbacks with these teams at
Speaker 1: the top of the draft where they're trying to making
Speaker 1: sure that they get their guy, and maybe there will
Speaker 1: even be some trades and some jockeying for position and whatnot. Essentially,
Speaker 1: when you're not in the market for a first round cornerback,
Speaker 1: a quarterback, excuse me, which the Packers are not. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the fourteenth overall pick looks like the
Speaker 1: tenth overall pick in essence, when you take take those quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: um and in those in those spots. But if those
Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't go in the top half of the first round,
Speaker 1: everything changes in terms of in terms of teams taking
Speaker 1: that you know, best player available and not just drafting
Speaker 1: the quarterback because that's the guy they really really need.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks of the guys who always dictate how these how
Speaker 1: these first rounds of the draft can go, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get guys that if you put them
Speaker 1: up on a board. As far as they're grade. They
Speaker 1: might not necessarily be a top five or top ten,
Speaker 1: or even a first round pick in some cases, but
Speaker 1: yet they're the top at their position, or they're at
Speaker 1: the top available at that position. In teams general managers,
Speaker 1: there's pressure right from the moment that you get a
Speaker 1: job if if you're going into a situation where the
Speaker 1: quarterback position is unsettled, that's your number one objective, and
Speaker 1: you look at right now the position a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys are in. I think I think last year
Speaker 1: with Ryan Pace and what the Chicago Bears did is
Speaker 1: sort of really emblematic of how much of a struggle
Speaker 1: this is to find the man. I mean, they're trading
Speaker 1: up one spot, they're trading draft picks, they're trading assets
Speaker 1: to move up for a guy that very well might
Speaker 1: have been there if they just waited for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Now he might not have, but he very well could have.
Speaker 1: And and and Pace just wasn't willing to take the
Speaker 1: chance because he was sold on the fact that Mitch
Speaker 1: Rubisky was was the quarterback of the future for the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, and he was going to he was going
Speaker 1: to get him come hell or high water, and I
Speaker 1: think it's also the defining moment on the other side
Speaker 1: of it too. I think John Lynch really got his
Speaker 1: you know sprinted out of the gate with those moves,
Speaker 1: being able to move back and then trading a second
Speaker 1: rounder for Jimmy Garoppolo. So, uh, this is the game
Speaker 1: that teams have to play. Not to keep bringing that up,
Speaker 1: but I mean this is ultimately Mike the game within
Speaker 1: the actual game in terms of trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how all of these things are gonna play out, because
Speaker 1: it's really just the giant, massive game of poker. Guys
Speaker 1: are holding their cards. Stuff gets leaked out, you know,
Speaker 1: so and so is looking at this guy or this
Speaker 1: team or whatever. We don't really know until that draft
Speaker 1: night happens. But the one thing the constant is, and
Speaker 1: you can skinny GM in the NFL about this, the
Speaker 1: more picks you have, the more real opportunity there is
Speaker 1: to make sure you get the most value out of
Speaker 1: those picks, whether it's moving up, moving back, or staying
Speaker 1: where you are. Yeah, And the one thing we're not
Speaker 1: hearing so much about, and again, the draft is what
Speaker 1: seven weeks away, so a lot of things can change,
Speaker 1: but we're not hearing so much about the these franchise
Speaker 1: left tackle types necessarily like up in the top ten.
Speaker 1: So when you look at Orlando Brown helped with that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that that was certainly a factor. So
Speaker 1: you look at this, if if you got the four quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you know, se Kwan Barkley is going to be picked,
Speaker 1: most likely Quentin Nelson, the guard from Notre Dame. He's
Speaker 1: really considered the top offensive lineman in the entire draft
Speaker 1: if he if if he is picked, and then the
Speaker 1: only the only other one. Yeah, you you mentioned at
Speaker 1: wide receiver. There is some talk about the Bears at
Speaker 1: number eight because they have such a glaring need at
Speaker 1: wide receiver that maybe they would take Calvin Ridley from
Speaker 1: Alabama that high. So if all of that happens, that's
Speaker 1: I believe seven guys that I've rattled off, the four quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: the guard, the running back, and the wide receiver. So
Speaker 1: in essence, if you're if you're looking at defensive guys,
Speaker 1: the Packers could get a guy who's really one of
Speaker 1: the top seven or eight defensive players in this entire draft. That's, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, that's very attractive, But again, you just don't
Speaker 1: know how it's necessarily going to fall, And as you
Speaker 1: talked about, that's how it happened in two thousand nine,
Speaker 1: that's how b j Rogi ultimately fell into their lap.
Speaker 1: I I kind of jumped over there, But I really
Speaker 1: would be very surprised if either Fitzpatrick or James are
Speaker 1: are available at four teen. Yeah, I was those guys
Speaker 1: are coming off the board then too. And if Hurst
Speaker 1: doesn't have out of Michigan doesn't have the heart condition,
Speaker 1: I think he was pretty much locked in to be
Speaker 1: a top ten or top twelve guy. So who's still
Speaker 1: there and in seeing exactly we can talk until we
Speaker 1: get blue in the face about certain prospects. Inevitably there's
Speaker 1: somebody who falls on draft night for one reason or
Speaker 1: another that sometimes we know. Sometimes it's it's known why
Speaker 1: this guy potentially his stock is falling. Sometimes we don't.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it just happens because the medical test don't get
Speaker 1: out there in the media, things don't get leaked. So
Speaker 1: that's the fascinating part of this to watch, And for
Speaker 1: the packers, there were so many years where they just
Speaker 1: had to wait where all these dominoes were falling to
Speaker 1: actually start to make heads and tails of this thing.
Speaker 1: This year. It's gonna happen a lot earlier. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: in a different spot for sure. With that, we'll toss
Speaker 1: to a break back with more on Packers Unscripted right
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford next
Speaker 1: to West had Quitz. Okay, Wes. This is its final
Speaker 1: segment here before a bit of a break and then
Speaker 1: we will kind of match my plane down to the door.
Speaker 1: The Packers are going into this with twelve picks. You've
Speaker 1: got your one pick in every round, that seven four
Speaker 1: compensatory picks, an extra fourth to extra fifths and an
Speaker 1: extra sixth and then an extra seventh because of the
Speaker 1: Laurenti McCray trade from a couple of years ago. So
Speaker 1: twelve picks, that's a lot of that's a lot of
Speaker 1: selections to potentially make. There could be some trades here
Speaker 1: and there. How many picks do you think the Packers
Speaker 1: will actually make? I bet they make ten? Is okay?
Speaker 1: So you're thinking some trades up. I wonder if if
Speaker 1: for no other reason, I wonder if Brian Goodkins is
Speaker 1: going to do with Ted Thompson always did, And that's
Speaker 1: make sure you don't actually have to pick in the
Speaker 1: seventh round. Thompson. That was actually one thing that very
Speaker 1: quietly he did during his reign as gm UH. He
Speaker 1: always seemed to part with those seventh round picks. And
Speaker 1: if you follow the game close enough, one of the
Speaker 1: reasons you do that is because it allows you sometimes
Speaker 1: to get a head start on the undrafted free Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're work. You're working the phones with those undrafted guys
Speaker 1: and trying to convince them to sign as soon as
Speaker 1: the draft ends. So it's sometimes, I think, can be
Speaker 1: kind of a weight and counterbalanced thing of trying to
Speaker 1: figure out which guys you're gonna have a real legitimate
Speaker 1: chance at getting and which guys you're not. The Packers
Speaker 1: drafted Jeff Janis with their seventh rounder and fourteen because
Speaker 1: I think one of the thought processes was it wasn't
Speaker 1: a lock that they were going to be able to
Speaker 1: get him as a uf A. So that's that's something
Speaker 1: to keep in mind. But the one thing Thompson always
Speaker 1: that he always threw those in when all these deals,
Speaker 1: I mean, go back and look at how many seventh
Speaker 1: round picks the Patriots probably got out of the Packers
Speaker 1: over the years, with all the deals that Belichick and
Speaker 1: Thompson swung, so I bet they end up with ten.
Speaker 1: I thought the best comment out of the combine came
Speaker 1: from John Schneider. Now they don't have a second and
Speaker 1: third round this year, I believe last year they didn't
Speaker 1: have a first round, and he mentioned just how challenging
Speaker 1: that is, how it really shifts everything is for terms
Speaker 1: of your philosophy. He he likes the challenge. He said,
Speaker 1: it allows you to makes you get a little more
Speaker 1: more creative with how you're gonna make this all work.
Speaker 1: But he comes from that round wolf Tree and the
Speaker 1: fewer swings at the bat you have, the fewer chances
Speaker 1: you have for a hit. And this isn't an average
Speaker 1: base league. It's a hit basically, and you've got to
Speaker 1: find guys and this is a big opportunity I think
Speaker 1: for Brian Couducus, and even hearing him talk about it,
Speaker 1: he's excited about it. Yeah, and so you say ten picks,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say eleven. I think I think he's going
Speaker 1: to I think there's going to be some maneuvering and
Speaker 1: we may see multiple trades both up and back. But
Speaker 1: I have I have a feeling, I just I just
Speaker 1: don't see them necessarily taking twelve players. But I'm not
Speaker 1: sure they're going to be enough trades up to end
Speaker 1: up with only like nine or ten, So I guess
Speaker 1: I'll say eleven, just to be a little different. I
Speaker 1: would be absolutely stunned if the Packers just drafted twelve
Speaker 1: players and all and stayed, stayed and all. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: I don't see that was in Thompson's way. For as
Speaker 1: much as people think he was conservative, he moved around
Speaker 1: a lot. There was one draft I remember, and I
Speaker 1: can't remember that was the one he stayed at every spot,
Speaker 1: and it was everybody was just stunned, like, how come
Speaker 1: there are underny trades but in those personnel departments, I
Speaker 1: expected to move a little bit, all right, I expect
Speaker 1: that as well. But with that, we're going to call
Speaker 1: it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted and
Speaker 1: sign off for a little while, though. We will be
Speaker 1: back with you shortly before the NFL Draft in late April.
Speaker 1: With that, He's West Hodkowitz. I'm Mike Spofford. Thanks for watching, everybody,
Speaker 1: see you next, right,