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Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with growths and I heard

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Speaker 1: radio podcast. Welcome to the first episode of How Men

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Speaker 1: Think in My name is brooks Like, And I got

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Speaker 1: my brooks Like, I got my gracious co host here

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Speaker 1: with me, Mr Gavin de Gros. Buddy, Yeah, you two,

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Speaker 1: it's been like a year since I've seen you, almost

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Speaker 1: you get it feels like it. It actually feels like

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been like a decade. Is that it's

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Speaker 1: been a decade. It's a new decade, buddy. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the new year, my man. It's a good new year.

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Speaker 1: It's a great new year, hopefully even better than last year,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was top of the top for me.

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Speaker 1: Really not really, it's pretty good. I had a good one, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, but it can always be a little better. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: I have a gift for you to start off in

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Speaker 1: a wonder the most wonderful possible way. Is it a

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Speaker 1: home pregnancy test? Why you're going through something? No, it

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Speaker 1: is not. It is. It is the gentleman sitting to

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Speaker 1: only my my wife fan girl. When I told her

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Speaker 1: that you were coming in. Mr Freddie Prince Jr. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a gift just for you man, just for you

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Speaker 1: to see my gift. Yeah, brokes for wearing the rapper Man.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I self unwrapped to stay kicked back.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you need, perfect Freddy, I gotta play this clip

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Speaker 1: for you. So the other day I told Julianne that

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Speaker 1: you were coming in and East and our engineer here's

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Speaker 1: She doesn't like, literally, are you like all time crush

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Speaker 1: of all crushes? It's too funny. She did the dramatic

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Speaker 1: got a book, cookbook. Let's not let's not turn me

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Speaker 1: into some novelist. I'm not Jack Carrowac or anything like that. Um,

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Speaker 1: but she was, Oh my god, she was fired up.

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Speaker 1: this podcast. So your wife, Your wife's probably in her

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Speaker 1: mid thirties. I'm not trying to expose in a young

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Speaker 1: So the right around that age is all these grown

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Speaker 1: and all the girls of that generation do what your

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Speaker 1: bad because like they made their guys go see a

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Speaker 1: these and now that's their ex girl right now, right,

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Speaker 1: so they have a reason to hate me. And then

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Speaker 1: your girl said Summer Catch, which every year, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I love that movie. That movie well you saw in

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Speaker 1: So I was a hockey player. I was a hockey player.

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Speaker 1: I so, I I don't know why I loved I

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Speaker 1: and all those people kind of said, yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: I got a question for you, Um, do you uh

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Speaker 1: You're married, now you have two kids, but like, do

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Speaker 1: Like when I was younger, girls would run up and

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Speaker 1: But when I was younger, yeah, people would trip out

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Speaker 1: but you're actually pretty cool. And you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: And uh so I don't take the hate as hate,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know you and my like I said, I was raised

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Speaker 1: that's a hardcore way to live. But that's how we

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Speaker 1: I like social media, I like when people get mad.

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Speaker 1: Some people get mad at me over like Star Wars stuff.

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Speaker 1: Some people get mad because they just didn't like my movies, right,

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Speaker 1: I can't help out you interpret information. Do you ever

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Speaker 1: do you ever get like, do you ever get hate mail? Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you get like girls throwing themselves at you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: But what about hate mail? More like dudes like hating

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Speaker 1: even know how you say money manager, expert, money experts.

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Speaker 1: So we have Nicole she rich? Is she rich? If

425
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Speaker 1: she's not rich, I'm not taking any advice we have.

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Speaker 1: We have Nicole lapping on with us. Nicole, are you there? Well,

427
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Speaker 1: I'm a rich bitch alright, Uh, Nicole, I appreciate you

428
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Speaker 1: jumping on with us. UM. A lot of our listeners

429
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Speaker 1: have said the number one issue they want to address

430
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Speaker 1: in is money management. They want to learn how to

431
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Speaker 1: uh invest money, save money, money, or manage their money

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Speaker 1: so that they're not so much living paycheck to paychecker

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Speaker 1: and incurring huge debts. UM, could you give our community

434
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Speaker 1: just your first the low level, the low hanging fruit

435
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Speaker 1: on how to better manage their money in the new year.

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Speaker 1: You know is that a man is not a financial plan,

437
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Speaker 1: period full stop. Wait, she's the other way you can

438
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Speaker 1: get it together. It's not that complicated. I know that

439
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: a lot of money stuff sounds jargon E and I

440
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: think that money is a language like anything else. We

441
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: just don't have a rosetta stone for it growing up,

442
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: Like we learn a lot of vs stuff growing up

443
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Speaker 1: in school will never use again, like yeah, or the

444
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: Pythagoran zurum, like I have no idea why we need

445
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Speaker 1: to know that, but we don't learn how to do

446
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Speaker 1: a budget or taxes or business plans. So once you

447
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Speaker 1: can speak the language, then I think you can steel empowered.

448
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: And if you start off by thinking of a spending

449
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Speaker 1: plan instead of a budget, like just the way you

450
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Speaker 1: frame it can help a lot. You come from a

451
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Speaker 1: place of aspiration versus deprevation, So in the same way

452
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Speaker 1: as you would think of an eating plan instead of

453
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Speaker 1: a crash giant, a spending point is something that sustainable

454
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Speaker 1: and allows these small indulgences. So I suggest breaking down

455
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Speaker 1: your monthly spending plans spending percent going to the essentials,

456
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Speaker 1: so everything you need to live on every single day,

457
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Speaker 1: but through the transportation or whatever, going to the end game,

458
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: so your future self. You're investing, you're saving all that

459
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Speaker 1: good stuff, and then fifteen percent going to the extras.

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Speaker 1: So the latte by the way, that there's three ees,

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Speaker 1: I love you some alliteration of I like the only

462
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Speaker 1: financial person who will tell you to buy your morning latte.

463
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Speaker 1: You have to. You have to treat yourself otherwise, just

464
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Speaker 1: like in a regular diet, you'll end up bitching later on. Yeah, um, nicole.

465
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Speaker 1: The baby boomers kind of destroyed Western civilization with instead

466
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Speaker 1: of living to be happy, it was about attaining as

467
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Speaker 1: much crap as you could get. And they've been blamed

468
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Speaker 1: about this for years, but we've sort of taken that

469
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Speaker 1: to a new level. What are the types of habits

470
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Speaker 1: or how do you break bad habits of trying to

471
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Speaker 1: acquire so much stuff at a young age and putting

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Speaker 1: yourself in that kind of debt. How what are the

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Speaker 1: ways you would use to break those habits? Totally amen,

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Speaker 1: I mean, debt is the only four letter word I

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Speaker 1: don't like, by the way, and I think when you're

476
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Speaker 1: tackling your debt, you really need to prioritize to pulverize,

477
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Speaker 1: I say, um, because not all debt is created equal,

478
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Speaker 1: you know, like there's some good staffs, I guess, avocados

479
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: compared to French fries. There's some good debt like student loans,

480
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Speaker 1: you know, compared to credit card debt. So if you're

481
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Speaker 1: tackling your debt, you don't want to just indiscriminately pay

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Speaker 1: it off. You want to look at the highest integrate

483
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Speaker 1: first and so typically that's your credit card, So pay

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Speaker 1: off all of that first. And then if you have

485
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Speaker 1: a car loan, which you shouldn't, but if you do,

486
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Speaker 1: you don't want to keep paying on a depreciating asset,

487
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: so you pay that off second. And then if you

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Speaker 1: have a mortgage, then you would pay that off, and

489
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Speaker 1: then finally your student loans. Because they can take away

490
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Speaker 1: your house, they can take away your car, but they

491
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Speaker 1: can't take away your brain. And I think just generally

492
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Speaker 1: not acquiring stuff like that is a change in mindset.

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Speaker 1: What I would say to you people who just continue

494
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Speaker 1: to buy things to try and make them happy, which

495
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: as we know, never really seuse fruition is coming up

496
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Speaker 1: with what your goals actually are. And you know, when

497
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: people say I just want a million dollars. I'm like,

498
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Speaker 1: what do you want to do with that million dollars?

499
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Speaker 1: Maybe you want more than a million dollars, maybe need

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Speaker 1: less than a million dollars. I have no idea. It's

501
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: first figuring out the life you want to live, and

502
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: then reverse engineer to figure out how to get some

503
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Speaker 1: money to live the life you want. How do you

504
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Speaker 1: feel about when people buy a new car. I don't

505
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Speaker 1: feel great about it. A little bit of me cries

506
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Speaker 1: on the inside. Um, I think that more young people

507
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Speaker 1: get into leases. Do you guys have leases? Or I

508
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: own two cars? That's probably real? Yeah, totally. Like the

509
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Speaker 1: biggest appreciation period is in the first four years. So

510
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Speaker 1: if you buy a car after four years, like it's

511
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Speaker 1: four years old, then that's the sweet spot and then

512
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: you can run that thing into the ground. Um. But

513
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Speaker 1: at least it was like the biggest scam in the

514
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Speaker 1: history of the world. So what do you recommend people

515
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Speaker 1: do with the car as far as cars go? Exactly,

516
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Speaker 1: buy a four year old car, lease a four year

517
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Speaker 1: old car, by four year old car, by a four

518
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: year old car buying and run the gepies into the ground. Yeah,

519
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: Buffett has I think like some old lopes telling you

520
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Speaker 1: I bought a two thousand eleven Toyota four Runner. It's

521
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Speaker 1: what I loved every day. I bought it used. I've

522
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: got over a hundred twelve thousand miles on it now

523
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: like old muscle cars more. Yeah, and those don't they

524
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Speaker 1: don't get driven on the four oh five Like that's

525
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Speaker 1: a car. So I'm with that. But yeah, I bought

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Speaker 1: a used car. It already had miles on, it was tamer,

527
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: and it still runs like a dream. So you gotta

528
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Speaker 1: do that? What about rent or own your home? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Good question, man, I just interrupt really quick before we

530
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Speaker 1: move on. What would be the one major expense to

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Speaker 1: get hip on first? Would it be get a used

532
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 1: car rather than a new car? Would that be like

533
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: your first advice? What would be like the one first move?

534
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Speaker 1: Major life moves? First first first major life move is

535
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Speaker 1: like stepping away from all of this stuff and figuring

536
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: out your credit score, because your credit score is like

537
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: your financial report card, um and you that's actually gonna

538
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: make the most difference on whether you get a house

539
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: or car. Like, your interest rates are not created equal.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys all sit around and share your

541
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: interest rates on your credit cards. Man, yeah, right before

542
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: you call in, we had an interest rate specialists. That's true.

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00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: He's not lying. That's all we do around here. So

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00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: much promance with interest rates. No, I think you know,

545
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: we don't realize that your interest to race on everything

546
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: you borrow money for is connected to your credit score.

547
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: So if you can increase that and get that in order,

548
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: then you're going to be saying a lot of money

549
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: and interest in the long run. So that's the very

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Speaker 1: number one first thing. And then as far as the

551
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: house buying versus renting, I think there's a huge misconception

552
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: and I talked about this and you bunk get a

553
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: lot enriched fish where a house is an investment, like

554
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: a house is not an investment. Houses that LEDs to live.

555
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Speaker 1: And you know, unless you're some you know, flipper person

556
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: on some TV show like this is not a game

557
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: to make money. You know, when people say my grandma

558
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: bought a house for twenty five grand and now it's

559
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Speaker 1: worth two hundred and fifty grand or whatever. You know,

560
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: what people forget is that that thing inflation happened. And

561
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: so when Granama bought that house, you know, movie tickets

562
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: were also five sets and so, and you never get

563
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Speaker 1: the money back what you know that you put into

564
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Speaker 1: the house. If something goes wrong, look in the mirror,

565
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: you're the landlord. And so I think when you're building

566
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Speaker 1: your career, especially, I like to put the sexty back

567
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: into renting because you're missing out on your opportunity cost Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: a lot of young people are housed poor, Like they

569
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Speaker 1: save up a hundred grand or whatever by um, buy

570
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: a house and then can't do anything else, and that

571
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: is no life to live. In my opinion, I agree

572
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: with that, But there's also the flip side of that

573
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: to to look at the other side is that having

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Speaker 1: your own home brings an immense sense of calm and

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Speaker 1: peace um, which is almost invaluable to some people. So

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Speaker 1: I don't want to discourage everybody from not buying a home.

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00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: I would just I would encourage you to look at

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Speaker 1: what the priorities are in your life. But I completely

579
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: get what you say. You could have that hundred thousand,

580
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: You could invest that hundred thousand. It could make you

581
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: more money while you rent. You could do other things.

582
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: You could travel, you could live a different style of

583
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: life if that's what you want. What is the dumbest

584
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: mistake women make because I can ask that the guys can't.

585
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, for the housing thing, I'll just know really quickly.

586
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: The difference, um is like thinking of your house is

587
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: an investment. I'm all about a house being you're staying

588
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: short and your calm. But just frame it exactly that way.

589
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't think like you're going to be making a

590
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: ton of money in the long run. That's not the

591
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: that's not the reason, you know. I think the biggest

592
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: mistake that we make is we try to go into

593
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: the new year cutting stuff out cold turkey, so you know,

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Speaker 1: no morning latte or do not find any fun stuff

595
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: saying oh like living you know in austerity, and we

596
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: all know that that doesn't last. So a lot of

597
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: women will come to me and say, you'll be so

598
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: proud of me I cut out the morning latte um,

599
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: or you know, I'm not going out, and then come

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00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: April May they're like, yeah, I bought a Gucci purse

601
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: because it was so good bye. I'm like, hello, captain obvious,

602
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: if you just bought a latte and give yourself small indulgences,

603
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: you wouldn't binge on that. Can I ask you some

604
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: more stuff. Yeah, if you buy a property, do you

605
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: ever really own the property? Being that you gotta pay

606
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: property texts, you never get philosophical. That's what Gavin does

607
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: on this show. I like it. Here's another one. You

608
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: want to answer that one? That's like, if you buy

609
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Speaker 1: a townhouse, do you really own it? Because you only

610
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: own up to the paint. You don't own the roof.

611
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: And it's not even a town it's a house. It's

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And here's another. Are you gonna

613
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: answer that? Or what are we gonna wait all day? Well,

614
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: by the way, there's also in you know, um like

615
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: tom Springs Areas, the Indian Land. You actually don't own

616
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: that land. You don't own the land in Mexico to

617
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: you can do like a year lease is basically like

618
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: the law they'll give you and then like yeah, and

619
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Speaker 1: we take that crap back no better. How much you've

620
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: invested in it. That's incredible. Let me ask you something, Nicole.

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Speaker 1: Let's say I'm eighteen years old. It was a long

622
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Speaker 1: time ago, but let's say I'm eighteen years old and

623
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Speaker 1: my mom just said it's time for you to get

624
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Speaker 1: out and do your thing, which she said, which I

625
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: respect I have a job that allows me rent at

626
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Speaker 1: my apartment. What are the choices I need to start making?

627
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Speaker 1: Right then, I'm eighteen, I'm on my own. I'm trying

628
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Speaker 1: to be a man. I have no idea how to

629
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Speaker 1: be a man. How do I make a good decision

630
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: with my money? I think that starting young with dusking

631
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: is a great way to go because, of course, so

632
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: longer you keep your money in the market, over time,

633
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: you're going to make ten percent. And that's not saying

634
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Speaker 1: that you're watching the market every single day, because I

635
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: think that's bad news. There's like you need a value

636
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: to look at the market, um, But over time in

637
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: solution is throwing out about three pours. So basic masks

638
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: like I'm happy we learned this stuff is not a

639
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: lot of other stuff. But you know, ten minus three

640
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: is seven percent, so you're gonna need seven percent just

641
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: to buy the same stuff later on um that you

642
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: are buying today. And so I would start investing early

643
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: on with basics stuff like nothing's too exotic. Although the

644
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: rule of them is to take your age and put

645
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: that allocation in bonds um and then put the rest

646
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: in stock. So if you're eighteen, I put twenty percent

647
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: in bond, which is a safer investment, and then the

648
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: rest of the eight percent going into stocks, which is

649
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: a more aggressive investment, and ETFs mutual funds. It's just

650
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: that's a big basket, that's all diverse about it, and

651
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: you don't really need to think about it. I think

652
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: it's the way to go and those are easy you

653
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: can you can do that on them at your bank

654
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: or a bunch of different online. One more question on

655
00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: that on that UH category, has there ever been a

656
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: add time to get in the market historically speaking, where

657
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: so if you got in young before, you're still lost.

658
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Now there's i've, I was there a time I'VE. Last

659
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: year I studied this a lot. I read a lot

660
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: of financial books because I was out of hockey, retired

661
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: from hockey, The biggest earning years of my life were

662
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: probably behind me, and I wanted to know that the

663
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: money that I had earned could could carry me financially

664
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. And so I studied a

665
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: lot of this and Amy, I'd actually like to do

666
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: like a full financial episode to talk about the stuff,

667
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: the difference between a fiduciary and a broker for investments,

668
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. It's better to be for it.

669
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: I mean, but while he was asking that, but you know, no,

670
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: it's better to be it's better in the market in

671
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: the market period. If you there's some go nical, Yeah,

672
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: it's better to be in the market period. But you know,

673
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: you're never gonna be able to tell when you're in

674
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: the low end, right, So the only truisms in Wall

675
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: three and maybe in life is by low zel high

676
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: and it's better to be low expectations, and so you're

677
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: never going to be able to know right when that

678
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: when stuff is on sale is ideally you would buy

679
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: when you know, during the depression when when stocks neuron

680
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: sale essentially um. So sometimes when you're going into the market,

681
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, for easy maths, let's say you have twelve

682
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: brand and you want to invest it and take it

683
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: over a year and put a thousand dollars every single month,

684
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: and so you're sort of hedging for the fluctuations in

685
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: the market. Interesting, over the last twenty years, the snpis

686
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: averaged eight percent a year. Correct, So it doesn't matter

687
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: what time really you get in the market. If you're

688
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: in the market for the long term play, just get

689
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: in the market and there's There's two things to keep

690
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: in mind there for young people, because the philosophies that

691
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about right here are the two things that

692
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: eighteen year old guys are really horrible at, And the

693
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: first one is patients and the second one is thinking

694
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: long term. Right, Like, it's just unless you had strict

695
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: ass parents, it just wasn't a scenario. So when you're

696
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: when you're talking to young kids and they are kids,

697
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: and I know how dumb I was at eighteen. If

698
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: people weren't looking out for me, I would have been

699
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: a wreck. So you know, a simple thing is like

700
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: you don't have to just think stocks like bonds are

701
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: a different, separate thing. I invest in bonds if you

702
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: need that kind of an endorsement. Um. There's there's cities

703
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: that have bonds, like just locally here in California that

704
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: do great dividends in Palm Desert or Carmel or places

705
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: like that. But that's long term money that you guys

706
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: can't touch. So if it's money you can't afford to invest,

707
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: then maybe wait till you get that promotion at work

708
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: or until you get that next job. But starting early

709
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: and starting to develop habits and investing early isn't easy,

710
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: but it's necessary. So you've got to do more patients

711
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: than what the average eighteen year old does, and it

712
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: takes practice. You're gonna screw up. I did a lot.

713
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: That's where I was. I was lucky. One thing I'll

714
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: say that I did right in my life when I

715
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: had great advice when I was younger. Um as soon

716
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: as I turned pro and I started making money, my

717
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: financial advisor asked me, what is your biggest financial concern?

718
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: And my answer was that I don't want to be

719
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: an ex broke athlete when I'm sixty years old. I

720
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: want to know that I can fish and golf and

721
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: do whatever the hell I want the rest of my

722
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: life and just retire. And so when I was nineteen,

723
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: I put away three hundred thousand dollars. And I know

724
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: that's probably different than maybe most of our listeners, but

725
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: I put away three hundred thousand dollars that I won't

726
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: touch until I pay a penalty on if I touch

727
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: it before fifty nine and a half. And that money

728
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: will sit there and compound interest it's invested, and it

729
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: will compound and compound and compound, and hopefully it offers

730
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Speaker 1: me freedom the rest of my the question for Nicole

731
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Speaker 1: because I'm listening to all three of you guys talk

732
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Speaker 1: about this as men, and that's what this show is,

733
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: how men think. And I think, and I think Nicole

734
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: will agree that women do not make this as not

735
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Speaker 1: that they shouldn't. I think we're wrong, but women do

736
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Speaker 1: not make this as much of a priority as you

737
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Speaker 1: men do, just inherently by our nature. I would say

738
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: that's right. In my relime, to break down a wall

739
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: with a man is not a plant, right. So I

740
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: think that's why Nicole is amazing as a woman doing

741
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: what she does, because I'm pretty successful and I don't

742
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: do any of all the things y'all are talking about. Yeah,

743
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: it's I do it because in my life, my life

744
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: was shaped like that. I had prime earning years, I

745
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: had potential earning years as an athlete. I had a

746
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: shelf life, so I had to be aware that I

747
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: need to be smart with my money. So that started young.

748
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Speaker 1: Are women failing when it comes to their finances? I

749
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: don't think we're failing. I've never met a woman who

750
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: is not a strong woman, So I think that there

751
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: is a desire to learn more about it, and I

752
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: just don't think there are enough resources. That's why I

753
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: of course do what I do. UM, but you know,

754
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: going to this sort of like philosophy and visit better.

755
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: I think if we're keeping it real, you know, women's

756
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: currency is more looks and men's currency is more money.

757
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: You can even feel that on the skating field, and

758
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: that's that's biological. You know, guess what we're attracted to.

759
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: And so I think that the desire is of course there.

760
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: And I go back to the investing thing and just

761
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: make like a quick footnote, UM that before you even

762
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: start investing, make sure you have an emergency fund, because

763
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: you can't go if you lose that job, that scenario

764
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: that eteen year old you can't go to the grocery

765
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: store with your four own k or your mortgage or whatever.

766
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: So would you recommend yeah, I mean six months if

767
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: you have a steady job. More about nine months if

768
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: you have a precarious job. So if you're a real

769
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: estate groper or you know, a model or whatever and

770
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: you you're not making the same amount every single month,

771
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: to make sure that that first, and you know, to

772
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: your guys, the point of just leaving it there and

773
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: not touching it, that's definitely the way to go, Like

774
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have zero in your bank account and then

775
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: three grands in you know, a municipal bond or a

776
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: CD even or anything that's going to earn you something

777
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: versus just sitting there. Well, I have one more question. Uh, college,

778
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: it's very expensive. Convince me that it's worth it nowadays.

779
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: Oh I don't think so, because I'm not going to

780
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: convince you of Um. I think in my second book,

781
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: Boss Bitch, I make the whole case against the n

782
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: b A, and I break down the economics of that.

783
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I went to Northwestern, Like, I paid off

784
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: my student debt, But is that changing my career? No.

785
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: Had I done it all over again, I wouldn't have baughn.

786
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: I just wanted to start working. Um so UM. I

787
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: think a big issue for folks who also have kids

788
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: is that they're so concerned about for their kids college,

789
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: which and and and they put that in front of

790
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: their own retirement or their own investing, which is the

791
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: worst idea because you have to put your oxygen mouths

792
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: on first before helping others. If they don't say that

793
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: on the plane before take off, that to waste time.

794
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: It's totally true. You can't be of service to your

795
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: kids or anyone else if you're crashing and burning yourself.

796
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: And so by the time your kid goes to college,

797
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: there's probably going to be you know, a lot of

798
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: other methods to pay for it, and you're not going

799
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: to be helpful if their college is paid for it.

800
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: But like, you're living on cat food when you're retired,

801
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: and you gotta live on their couch. And so I

802
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: think that's a really important thing to know. There's a

803
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: ton of vehicles, of course, to save for college. You know,

804
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm Vegas, okay. Um the one on the

805
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: uh nicole uh. For our listeners listening that that want

806
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: to get in touch with you, where can they find you?

807
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: And also the book where can They get Make You creepy?

808
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: Don't tell us where we can find you. Just give

809
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: us for business inquiries. People reach out your Your book

810
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: is a New York Best New York Times bestseller. It's

811
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 1: called Rich. It's called Rich Bitch, a simple twelve step

812
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: plan for getting your financial life together. Uh. Finally, and

813
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: then you have Boss Bitch, which is a simple twelve

814
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: step plan to take charge of your career. Yeah. And

815
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: then my new book becoming Superwoman is uh, guess from

816
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: burnout to ballot super bitch over on the table? Were

817
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: happy on the table, It's through And then I was like,

818
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: the bitch thing is over where ultimate ultimate? Okay, but

819
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: here's the thing right here right about? What's the guy

820
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: version of this? Is it? Like rich dude, rich pro

821
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: rich fasters? Like, do you guys want to get in

822
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: on that be? What would the equivalent? But I think

823
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: you should write with Gavin. I think that'd be Gavin.

824
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: I think you should have some choice titles for you

825
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: the dough Bros. Nicole, I want to thank you so much.

826
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: We'd love to have you on AGAINDA to dive further

827
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: into this, Uh everybody, yeah, everybody check out those three books. Uh.

828
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: And then Nicole Lapping dot com is where you can

829
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: find her on the worldwide Web. Thanks Nicole Internet. Thanks

830
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: than young people. Got to check that out. You guys

831
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: gotta learn how to get your investments up early. Man.

832
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: I hate trying to teach my friends that are in

833
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: their mid thirties what to be doing with stocks because

834
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I don't know. I just know what

835
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: I did and what kept me safe with the people

836
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: looking out for me if you're in your thirties trying

837
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: to figure out it's like learning to ride a bike

838
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: pedaling uphill. This is a whole lot of you. One

839
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: of my one of my best friends in the world,

840
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: says Brooks. There's nothing like debt to make a man

841
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: want to work. And I was like, oh no, brother,

842
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: And I would caution to anybody listening, don't have the

843
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: attitude that you could always work for money, that you

844
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: can always I can always find a job to get money.

845
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: Start saving now, Start being mindful and thoughtful with your money.

846
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: Put it away so your money is working for you.

847
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: We got to take a break and then we'll be

848
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Speaker 1: right back with some more. Right after this, we are

849
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Speaker 1: onto topic number two that the listeners want to hear

850
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Speaker 1: about on areas they want to improve the quality of

851
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: their life. In gav we've talked about this, we have,

852
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: we have. You don't get a lot of it. I say,

853
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: it's a weapon. We are talking about sleep. Yeah, that's

854
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: a hard one. Why is it so hard? I think

855
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: it's the probably the same kind of thing because when

856
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: you're playing hockey, you are in different time zones all

857
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: the time. Stuff like that, you know, traveling, travel, schedule.

858
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: Same thing with me playing music. Uh, and if I

859
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: don't have my tour bus, it's just just bananas, you

860
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. When you're hopping on flights and

861
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: you're you're catching you know, twelve minutes of sleep in

862
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: a in an uber or or car or whatever. You know,

863
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of erratic. Um. But fundamentally speaking,

864
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: my my rhythm is late night. You know. Fundamentally speaking,

865
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: I usually need typically if I'm going to get proper sleep,

866
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: like a good eight hours, it won't I won't be

867
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: able to fall asleep usually until the sun starts coming up,

868
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: which is really weird. Freddy is gonna ask, you have

869
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: two kids, how do you sleep? Man? Look, I'm you're

870
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna be talking to the two of the two of

871
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: the three people in this group, doctor are some of

872
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: the most unhealthy sleep habit habit apologizing. But I have

873
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: two kids, I have a video game habit, and I'm

874
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: an actor writer. So you know, first of all, I

875
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: can't even go to sleep unless I'm listening to like

876
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: Richard pryor stand up comedy special, and then when it's over,

877
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: I wake up and have to put on a different

878
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: one and if I don't do that, I'm just sitting

879
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: there like this. So eight hours, oh sweet god, eight hours.

880
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: I think I was probably like seventeen, eighteen years old

881
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: and that was a good night, right there. Man, Okay,

882
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: I got a gift for you, gentlemen, got a gift

883
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: for you. Just giving gifts here today. So in studio

884
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: with us, we have a clinical psychologist and both a

885
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: diplomat of the American Board of Sleep Medicine and a

886
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: fella of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine. He's also

887
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: you'll see him up in that resumet. You'll also see

888
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: him on the Doctor Oz show. We have doctor Mike

889
00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: Bruce with say it right, Bruce, Um, Mike gott asleep.

890
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: I have said every podcast I've said that rest is

891
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: a weapon. I was a professional athlete. Rest is a weapon.

892
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: And to your point, Freddie, I try and get nine

893
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: hours a night like that is. What's actually interesting about

894
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: that is when you look at athletes in particular, athletes

895
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: actually may actually require more sleep. There's some great data

896
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: out of Stanford that showed that when you extended sleep,

897
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: free throw percentages increased. And so when you start to

898
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: look at specific tasks within the athletic field, depending upon

899
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: the sport. It can actually you can see and it's

900
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: significant improvement in overall. Y, you're you're a mess, right Like,

901
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: that's just the bottom line is you're a mass the

902
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: whole thing. I haven't gotten eight since seventeen. So also,

903
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: to be fair, eight hours is a myth, guys, Okay,

904
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: not everybody needs eight. It actually turns out to be

905
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: genetically predetermined. I can look at your twenty three and

906
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: me data or your ancestry dot com data. I can

907
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: tell you exactly how much sleep you need. I can

908
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: tell you the quality that that sleep is going to be.

909
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: I can even help be predictive of potential sleep disorders

910
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: that you can amy, Can we do this? Can we

911
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: do this? Yeah? That's crazy. Can you give us an

912
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: example of of of a specific gene type that that

913
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: that meets us the sleeptally? So I'm gonna give you

914
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: one that actually applies to you. So there's something called

915
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: the pe R three gene. If there's a if there's

916
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: a slight variation there, it turns you into a night owl.

917
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: I believe you said that you are a night owl. Now,

918
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: what's also interesting about night owls? And I treat several

919
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: musicians artists who are actually out there continue to be

920
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: out there, much like yourself. So one of the things

921
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: that I've recognized is jet lag becomes a problem. One

922
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: of the guys that I treat does two hundred shows

923
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: a year. Oh yeah, that's okay, two hundred shows a

924
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: year in different spots, so jets but he couldn't do

925
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: it if he wasn't a night owl. And one of

926
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: the things I found is a lot of my super

927
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: creatives actors as well, have a tendency to be more

928
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,479
Speaker 1: night people used to look right, I used to work.

929
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: I grew up in comedy clubs because my dad's Freddie Prince.

930
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: He was a stand up comic back in the day.

931
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: I was hanging out the improv when I was twelve,

932
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: watching guys do cocaine in the bathroom. Sure, so it was,

933
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: and the other part good for sleep, just TONI than

934
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: just saying. But when I when I stopped acting, I

935
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: took a random job for the w w E and

936
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: every stand up comic, every pro wrestler I know must

937
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: have the peer Is that a p E R three

938
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: gene Because that's every single man and woman in both

939
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: industries that I've met. Yeah, it's really fascinating because for

940
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: certain personality types, it turns out have certain what we

941
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: call chrono types. So you might not have heard the

942
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: word of chronotype, but you've heard of people being called

943
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: an early bird or a night ol. Turns out those

944
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: are chrono types. And when people don't go to bed

945
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: at the same time that their chronotype dictates genetically, they're

946
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: off and that causes sleeplessness. So there's it's it's unbelievable,

947
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: and there's some really interesting tools out there people can

948
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: use if they're suffering from sleeplessness. There's some new tech

949
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: that's been coming out lately these days. Also, if you're

950
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: a video game guy, one thing you've got to consider

951
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: is blue light blocking glasses. A pro gamer send him

952
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: to me to carer. Yeah, both of my kids like

953
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: to game, and I had to actually create my own

954
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: line of blue light blocking glass. Let. Absolutely, we'll get

955
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: you something. So what happens with the blue light? What

956
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: is that your eyes and turns off the melatonin Fawcett

957
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: in your brain? So I love melatonin. We do. We

958
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: all love melatonin at night, but not in this good

959
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: dream morning. Yeah. Absolutely, and it's actually a really good antioxidant.

960
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: But there's actually some newer tech that's out now that

961
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: i'd love to tell you guys about because I get

962
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: the opportunity to see really really cool, weird stuff that's

963
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: out there, and it can be super helpful for folks.

964
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. I grew up surfing, I

965
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: I was born and raised here as born at Cedar SI,

966
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: and I I've never needed an alarm clock to wake up.

967
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: That's a good sign. If I have to get up

968
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: for work and I know I have to be there

969
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: at seven, it's gonna take me an hour. Then at

970
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: six whatever, it'll be five, nine or six on the dot,

971
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: no matter what. Just my eyes have open. Yeah, it's

972
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: what what does I hate it? By the way, what

973
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: what does that? What is it that makes you go,

974
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: hey man, you got thirty second still at six am?

975
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: Good up? So once again, your genetics are playing a

976
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: role here. Like if I took your twenty three and

977
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: me data or your ancestry dot com data, I could

978
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: literally show you on the genome where some of that

979
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: stuff is happening for you. It's it's quite it's really

980
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: quite fascinating. But remember light plays a significant role. So

981
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: as light increases in the bedroom as the sun rises,

982
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: light comes through your eyelids and it sends a signal

983
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: to your brain to turn off that melatonin faucet, just

984
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: same way that blue light does at night. Right. So

985
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: that's why we were the blue light blocking glasses at night.

986
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: We want blue light in the morning. We don't want

987
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: blue light at night, so we want sunlight in the morning.

988
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: So a lot of my athletes what I have them

989
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: do as soon as they wake up, they drink a

990
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: full bottle of water and they get fifteen minutes of

991
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: sunlight immediately because it removed was the brain fog, and

992
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: then they can move on with their day. I love that.

993
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: I love that you're doing it that way versus like

994
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: a pound of coffee or here's like some I'm sint

995
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: a big, big pharmaceutical guy, and I'm trying to stay

996
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: away from a lot of the stimulants and the suff

997
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: I want people to get a good quality sleep. I

998
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: want people to be able to fall asleep easily, get

999
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: good quality sleep, do some things. I'd love to tell

1000
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: you about this new piece of tech that I actually

1001
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: had float by me. It's kind of interesting. It's called Modius,

1002
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: And what it is is it's a headset that you

1003
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: put on these little things that go behind here. You

1004
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: wear for about thirty minutes before bed, and it sends

1005
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: a mild signal into a very particular part of your

1006
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: brain to shift that circadian cycle. This is Philip K.

1007
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: Dick do Android's dream of electric sheep stuff. Man, this

1008
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: is like stop sleeping, tune to channel. This is crazy.

1009
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: Here's the thing is, it's healthy, it's non pharmaceutical and

1010
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: it works like that was because I was super duper skeptical,

1011
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: to be fair, like I got, I get all kinds

1012
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: of crazy stuff that shows up in my mom's called mobius.

1013
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: What is it camobius health. Have you ever heard of

1014
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: the bio charger? I have heard of the biocharge. Yeah,

1015
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: so I like there's things about that that I like.

1016
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry it was modi us, not with a B

1017
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: to be clear. I was thinking of the French artists

1018
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: more mobius. There's a little bit of a cross over there.

1019
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: But what's interesting is the signal is very very mild.

1020
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: You don't feel it. You wear it for thirty minutes,

1021
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: you can do it while watching TV. You take it off,

1022
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: you lie down and you go to sleep. Um. Interesting,

1023
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 1: So don't do when you're driving. Absolutely do this when

1024
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: you're driving, or sure, um, don't take the melotonin flavored

1025
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: ments while you're driving, and exactly, and don't use this

1026
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: type of device. But it's pretty amazing when you start

1027
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: to think about tech and inn tech actually have an

1028
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: influence on our biology. And the answer is yes, as

1029
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: long as we're responsible with it and we use it

1030
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: in the right ways. Well, we're never gonna do that.

1031
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be terminator to judgment day. Just not as

1032
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: soon as everyone said. But I'm a big believer in technology,

1033
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: but human beings are not responsible in enough to be

1034
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: responsible with the technology. And someone's gonna go on, build

1035
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: a sleep robot. It'll take over the world. They'll go

1036
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: like inception, like two point out to put you to sleep.

1037
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: I'll jump into your brain. I'm like, yeah, that's great,

1038
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: and you steal on my bank codes. I am so

1039
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: fascinated by people who do not prioritize prioritize sleep because

1040
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: I can't stand waking up and feeling like ass. I

1041
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: can't stand artistic thing. Man. Every artist I know and

1042
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: every jock I know is the other way like I'm

1043
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: friendly with a lot of UFC fighters and stuff, and

1044
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: their sleep is money there, it's there, it's a weapon.

1045
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: And every artist I know it's like they're texting me

1046
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: at midnight like, hey, man, were you doing. I'm just like,

1047
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like like with my with my

1048
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: actors and with my musicians, I actually create a situation

1049
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: for them where they don't have to go to bed

1050
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: before two o'clock in the morning, because a lot of

1051
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: them like when when you're out there, you don't get

1052
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: off stage until what time to three o'clock in the

1053
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: I mean it just depends, right, And so late at night,

1054
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: one of the guys I w with prints you don't

1055
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: even start till two am exactly, wouldn't even get on stage.

1056
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: So when you what I do is I actually do

1057
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: a whole shift for them, and I keep them on

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00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: night mode, and then I have them sleeping during different

1059
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: times during the day, so you're having them blackout curtains

1060
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: and I can get pretty extreme if I need to.

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00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm actually a performance coach and I use sleep as

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00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: my secret weapon, right, And so I used sleep to

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00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: assess people, and I used sleep to actually help motivate

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00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: people as well as give them more avenues for productivity.

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00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: Sleep is the secret weapon of all secret weapons. And

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00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting when you say priorities, right, So I'll

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: give you the best priority talk that I ever give anybody.

1068
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: Is you can last for about four minutes without air.

1069
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: You can last for about four days without water. You

1070
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: can go twenty five days without food. You can go

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00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: for six days without sleep. Okay, well let's talk day four.

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00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: You are crazy. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about

1073
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: the debilitative effects absolutely lack of sleep. So like I've

1074
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: seen it in the poker room, right, like a poker

1075
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: player too, when poker was big, and you would see

1076
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: I saw people falling asleep at the table literally and

1077
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: you would see that the way it would affect their choices.

1078
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: Question there the rate at which they would call and

1079
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: guys when they thought they were like talk about how

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00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: quickly just one night of no sleep can break you down.

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00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: So it's really interesting. So there's a cute sleep deprivation,

1082
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: so like pulling it all nighter. And then there's the

1083
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: I didn't get like normally my body needs seven and

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00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 1: I only got five and a half or five days

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00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: in a row. So there's cumulative and then there's acute.

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00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: Acute has some really interesting effects on it, specifically with

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00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: decision making and frontal lobe cognitive stuff. The more sleep

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00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: deprived you get from an acute standpoint, it just gets

1089
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: worse and worse. As a matter of fact, um, speaking

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00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: of poker, I think it was Phil Locke who did

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00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: like an eight day poker right right, Jennifer exactly, and

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00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: he was a man by the end of it. He

1093
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: was doing the stupidest things you could possibly do. Sleep

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00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: effects every organ system, every disease state, everything you do

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00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: is affected by sleep. To give you some interesting science

1096
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: that's been coming out lately, the Nobel Prize in Medicine

1097
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: last year was given to circadian researchers. Okay, we know

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00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: that cancer cells multiply faster the more sleep deprived you

1099
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: are cancer. Okay, we're not messing around here. We know

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00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: that you can deliver chemotherapy at particular times in the

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00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: twenty four hour cycle. It's more effective and you need

1102
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: less chemo Like this is the secret of all. You

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00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: actually in the room and lie down, all right. I'm

1104
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: big in the professional video gaming space. I like that

1105
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: world a lot and a lot of video game streamers

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00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: try to do these things for charity, so I feel bad.

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00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: But they say, Hey, I'm doing a marathon twenty four

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00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: hours of gaming straight, will you please retweet me? And

1109
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you need to go watch they shoot horses,

1110
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: don't They like, can't do that? Like marathon dancing was

1111
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: not cool. It was a lot of ticket with a

1112
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 1: death sentence. That's not what That's not like you want

1113
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: it's so important. There's a I heard rumor that there's

1114
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: a show in England, uh, and it's a sleep deprivation show.

1115
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: And they put a briefcase with a half a million

1116
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: dollars in the middle of a room and they say,

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01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: everybody stay awake. Last person standing gets the case. They

1118
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: used to do that in Japan. It's it's an idea

1119
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: from a Japanese game show. They used to do weird deprivations,

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Speaker 1: the worst idea in the universe to get somebody to

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01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: say no when it's five grand on the line. Did

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01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: you ever see there's some TV show where I can't

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01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: remember it was there some study where they sleep to

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01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: deprive people for twenty four hours and then they put

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Speaker 1: them through driving tests. Yeah, that's so. It's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: If you lose approximately three hours of sleep at night,

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01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: it's almost like if you were to blow a point

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Speaker 1: oh five wow I and so, like they put them

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01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: through a driving test at twenty four hours, then they

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01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to sleep again. They put them through one

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01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: at like twenty seven at thirty hours. These people are

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: driving their thirty hours no sleep. They're driving on this

1133
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: like course whatever. And there's like cats in the middle

1134
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: of their own not real ones. Obviously they're just hammering

1135
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: everything like they are. They don't give a damn anymore.

1136
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: They just they have no pognitive function left right, and

1137
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: and what happens think about it from a decision making standpoint,

1138
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: Like everybody makes a lot of important decisions throughout the day.

1139
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: Some of them are more important than others. For example,

1140
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: if you have decisions if with your children right, you

1141
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: don't want to be sleep deprived making decisions about things

1142
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: that are yell at your kids quick. As my daughter

1143
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: her best line is if when she when if I'm

1144
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: sleep deprived or somebody in the houses, she's like, Daddy,

1145
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: you're acting like a grumpy fish. And it's like that's

1146
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: the most perfect description there is, Like I totally understand

1147
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: what you're saying, I need to go take an oup?

1148
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: What about that? Was my next question? What about naps?

1149
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: Because I'm a huge advocate of naps. On game days,

1150
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: we would practice in the morning, go home from that

1151
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: nap for two hours in the afternoon because I don't

1152
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: think I have the PR three or the PR three. Yeah,

1153
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't think I have that because I'm like bad

1154
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: by nine o'clock at night. But if I sleep from

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01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: one till three, I can then perform at seven until ten,

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01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: which is when our games were at that Canadian discipline. Yeah.

1157
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: Which really interesting is if you look in hockey in particular, Um,

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01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: there was a sleep expert that came in many many

1159
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: years ago. I think it was with the Pittsburgh Penguins,

1160
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm not positive. Um, And it was during the Stanley

1161
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: Cup and they were having all kinds of and so

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01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: he changed the practice time because these guys had jet

1163
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: lag from moving all around and by just changing the

1164
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: practice time by giving them naps, guess what, all of

1165
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: a sudden, they had more energy. They performed better than

1166
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: they ended up. Actual Matten did that with the Chicago

1167
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: Cubs when the in the World Series. You had a

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01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: sleep expert the whole season right now. Almost every single

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01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: professional team out there, doesn't matter. The sport has got

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01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: somebody like me who's coming on board and looking at

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01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: this stuff and trying to really help. Because it's a

1172
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: performance game and these guys are in gals are all

1173
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: being tested for performance enhancing you know, drugs. So that's out.

1174
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: What else can you do? Sleep? You gotta help these

1175
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: pro gamers out, man. You gotta nobody do something together.

1176
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: Be fine, Yeah, man, nobody's helping them out. Nobody knows that.

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01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a it's like the wild West. Still.

1178
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta help these kids out, man, well and

1179
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: their kids. So they've got developing brains, like all the

1180
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: reasons they should be getting even more sleep, um, and

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01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: they're unfortunately they're not. We had a sleep doctor quote

1182
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: unquote sleep doctor. I don't know if you'd like that

1183
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: term or not, probably about seven eight years ago. So yeah,

1184
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: every team has you get you get a presentation all

1185
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: the time from these guys. They are checking with you randomly.

1186
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: They'll plan as soon as our schedule comes out, the

1187
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: schedule goes to the sleep the team sleep doctor, and

1188
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: he plans your travel. Athletes take it as seriously as

1189
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: you think they need to. Well, that's part of the issue.

1190
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: I mean that the doctor can plan that like, hey, Okay,

1191
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay overnight in this city and we're gonna

1192
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: fly the next day, and of the players are going

1193
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: to go, oh, I got a green light in New

1194
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: York City, Like there goes my sleep. Right. Um, But

1195
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: if that doesn't happen as much anymore, if you're responsible athlete,

1196
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: you want to be in the league for a long time,

1197
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: you won't do that. What I am is the rookies

1198
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: are the partiers, and the guys are like, I know,

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01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: I want like this has got to last. I've got

1200
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: a shelf life, right, and I wanted to last. You know.

1201
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: The NFL is called not for long right for a reason,

1202
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: And so we want to see our athletes performing better.

1203
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean, as a fan, you want to see it also.

1204
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: And so what I've noticed when I work with athletes

1205
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: is the young ones they're out partying. The guys that

1206
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: have been around two or three seasons, they're like, oh no, no, no.

1207
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: I feel like the social media when these player NBA

1208
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: players get caught at nightclubs, it's all sleep. Doctors just

1209
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: sleep shaming them. You bet. It's also it's also it's

1210
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: also insane how alcohol disrupts your sleep that withdraws and

1211
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: it'll here's the craziest thing about that. Alcohol is the

1212
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: number one sleep aid in the world. More people drink

1213
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: themselves to sleep than anything else. And while alcohol makes

1214
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 1: you feel sleepy, there's a really big difference between going

1215
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: to sleep and passing out right. And so what we

1216
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: want to do is want to avoid the passing out.

1217
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: So my general recommendation, it's okay to having a couple

1218
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 1: of adult beverages with your you know, your meal at night,

1219
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: but give yourself one hour per alcoholic beverage and one

1220
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: glass of water per alcoholic beverage. That way your body

1221
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: moves it through the system. You can have a nice

1222
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: glass of wine or a Scotch with dinner and then

1223
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: you can still fall asleep and do well. And anything

1224
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: over to it's severely one of two beers. Okay, anything

1225
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: over that is what we were taught in our presence.

1226
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: Anything from three to six, you're altering big time. From

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01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: six to ten, I mean you're just destroying I drink

1228
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: Japanese socket and now those cups are small, so can

1229
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: I go too bottles deep. You can go one of

1230
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: those mini bottles to give yourself some time afterwards and

1231
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 1: some water. Afterwards will be some time, there'll be someone.

1232
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. From a singing perspective, Uh, anything

1233
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: booze booze feels good when you're doing the show, great,

1234
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If I if I've got

1235
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: a sore throat, I've got flamed on my throat, I'll

1236
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: drink a little bit of whiskey and I'll clean it

1237
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: off and like warm it up and helps me get

1238
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: through the show for an hour or two. Great. But

1239
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: if I hit it hard next day, I'm done, it's over.

1240
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: And Uh, the same thing with sleep. I mean, if

1241
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't get a good night's sleep and I got

1242
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: a show coming up and I've got to go do

1243
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: a gig and I'm just having a hard time talking.

1244
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: If I catch like even just an hour nap before

1245
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: the show, my voice feels great. Changes it tremendously for me,

1246
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You go from from like

1247
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: just incapable to just you got everything you need. You

1248
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: become the rock star again or the actor or the athlete. Yeah,

1249
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: what's what's the philosophy? On the power nap is the

1250
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: twenty minute nap? Does it do anything? So I'm gonna

1251
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: do you one better. I'm gonna teach you what I

1252
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: call the nap a latte. All right now, this is

1253
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: a technique that I created and it works really well. So,

1254
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: first of all, naps are great. I'm a big proponent

1255
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: of naps. Unless you have insomnia. If you don't sleep

1256
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: well at night, napping during the day is just gonna

1257
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: make it worse, So don't do that. But let's say

1258
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: you only got five hours and you've got a big presentation,

1259
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: a gig, a game event, what what have you. Here's

1260
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: what you can do. Go out and get a cup

1261
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: of drip black coffee, put in three ice cubes just

1262
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: to cool it down, slug it, and then literally minutes

1263
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: after you finish it, close your eyes into a twenty

1264
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: five minute nap. Here's what happens is there's this stuff

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Speaker 1: called a dennison in your brain that has to be

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Speaker 1: burned through. That's what the twenty minute nap does. Caffeine

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Speaker 1: fits perfectly into the same receptor sites in the brain,

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Speaker 1: so it's waiting in the wings. So when you take

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Speaker 1: that twenty five minute nap. It burns through that at Dennison,

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Speaker 1: the caffeine locks in. You're good for four hours. Guarantee,

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Speaker 1: it's rocks. There you go. Listeners, look at that nap

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Speaker 1: a latte years actually taking a lot of naps after

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Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, and people like, are you crazy?

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01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna wake you up. I'm like, nah, man, it

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Speaker 1: feels good. I want to take a nap. Well, interesting,

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Speaker 1: Where can our listeners? I I want to almost like

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01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: have a sit down with you for like an hour

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Speaker 1: myself so we can dive further into um your website,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you? The sleep doctor dot com?

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01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: So I'm availablet the sleep doctor dot com. And if

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Speaker 1: people want to check out that tech that I was

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: talking about, it's at Modius Health m O d I

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Speaker 1: U S health dot com. I want to try one

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Speaker 1: of those whole time. So Dr Michael Bruce, I appreciate

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01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: you coming in. I Amy I'd love to have him

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Speaker 1: back on for like a full episode. It's so helpful. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you, buddy, I appreciate you. Bet well. He was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Dr Michael was awesome, right, fantastic. Now we're going to

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Speaker 1: get into topic number three that we're going to improve

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Speaker 1: in time management. Boy, And that's a tough one for me.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'll just get a start by saying we're enemies. Also,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, we we are failing massively at this because

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: we have an itinerary for this podcast and we were

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01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: running way behind us. What happens and you bring an

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01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: actor in to fill in, then I'll do my best.

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Speaker 1: So we are going to get into time management. And

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Speaker 1: right now on the phone with us, we have Craig

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Speaker 1: jar O there. Great. Yeah, so first off you have

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Speaker 1: as Gavin said, Greg, well, welcome to the show first

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: and then second story, we're late buddy, So yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate having me. So, Creig, you are the author

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Speaker 1: of time Management Ninja. I love that. So how does

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01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: one how does one become a time management ninja? Uh? Well,

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01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,440
Speaker 1: I think it really comes through a lot of practice.

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01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: And uh one of the first things I tell you

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: about time management is it doesn't have to be complicated.

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: It just has to be a part of your lifestyle. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I like that. So your mission is to help individuals

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01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: and companies sort of reclaim their time. Yes, yes, I

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Speaker 1: help companies and I also write a blog at timemagement

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Speaker 1: dot com, where I have a lot of articles that

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Speaker 1: individuals can use as well. So, where's the biggest waste

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Speaker 1: of time that you're seeing in companies or people? Individuals?

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Speaker 1: Like something for our listeners? How can they have? I mean,

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Speaker 1: we all have twenty four hours in a day, but

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Speaker 1: how can we have It's something? Honestly, one of my

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Speaker 1: top five goals in is to have space in my life,

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Speaker 1: to create space in my life. So, um, what are

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Speaker 1: some of your tools and tips for me and our

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Speaker 1: listeners to be able to create more space and get

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Speaker 1: more time back in our lives. Well, I think the

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Speaker 1: easiest one to start with is always the one that

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Speaker 1: we're always carrying around with us, right in the phone.

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Speaker 1: I don't wean, we don't go anywhere without it. Most

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01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: people sleep with it, and you know it to be

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01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: your best friend, but it's also your you worst enemy, right,

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01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: And a lot of people spend way too much time

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Speaker 1: on their phone. Yeah, that's I agree with. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: phone thing is brutal, and it also your your C

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Speaker 1: five and C six discs in your neck. Don't don't

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01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: love you too much either. Here here, here's my question

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01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: for you. There was a movie that nobody saw with

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Speaker 1: Michael Keaton called Multiplicity, and it was about not Oh

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01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: you and me were the only ones. Brother. We really

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01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: like Michael Keaton. So me too. Um. So he has

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01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: this line where he's talking to this doctor who's a

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: geneticist who's going to create clones for him so he

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Speaker 1: can literally have more time. He's not gonna tell anyone

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Speaker 1: about the clones. That's how he's gonna pull it off.

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Speaker 1: And uh, when the doctor's first speaking to him, he says, oh,

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01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: what do you do for fun and when you have

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Speaker 1: time off? And he says, I like to play golf

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01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: And he says, oh, how often do you get out?

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01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: And Michael Keaton just looks at him. He goes, never, Yeah, never.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have to cut back. And that's really

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01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 1: gonna hurt that. That is everybody I know working today,

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01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: because most people I know working today don't have one job.

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01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: They have to three four five different hustles going on

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: at once. How did you help a man? How do

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01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: you help that woman who legit has three four five

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01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: six things going on? The phone? Is the phone the

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Speaker 1: main thing? Like, take some time away from that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I really do think the phone can be the

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Speaker 1: main thing. I like what you said about the golf

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Speaker 1: joke there. I want to address that in a second.

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01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: But the phone things, it's everybody's main thing, right We

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: we live and we live on these things now, And

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01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: for me, it always comes back to is it a

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01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: tool or is a toy for you? You know? And

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Speaker 1: are you using it to get things done and you know,

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Speaker 1: using it as a superpower to multiply your time, or

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01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 1: are using it to waste time and sitting there watching

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Speaker 1: YouTube or social social networks or whatever it may be.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the best and worst thing

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Speaker 1: we have. So I think for many people it's kind

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Speaker 1: of reevaluating how you're using it. But the other big

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Speaker 1: thing I would jump on right away is the interruptions. Right.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we can't go more than ten seconds

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Speaker 1: without our phone beeping or you know, giving us a

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Speaker 1: notification or whatever it may be. And it's not even

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Speaker 1: the phone calls these days, it's just all the pings

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Speaker 1: and stuff we get. So I think that's a a

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Speaker 1: area to start for most people. Is turning down the

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Speaker 1: noise on your phone, bring off a whole bunch of

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01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of those notifications. I'm gonna blow your

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01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: mind right now. Okay, if um, just all our listeners.

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Speaker 1: If you were on your phone two hours a day,

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Speaker 1: So let's say you're let's say you're on Instagram or

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Speaker 1: YouTube or something. You're on your phone two hours a day,

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Speaker 1: that's one twelve of the day. Twenty four hours divided

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Speaker 1: by two, that's one twelve, which means that's one month

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Speaker 1: out of every year that you are on your phone. Yeah,

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01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: that is one whole month of the year spent on

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: your phone on social media, just scrolling wasting away. That's

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01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: not accounting anything you're doing with your career. That's not

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01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: accounting sleeping, what you're doing with your friends, how you're

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Speaker 1: spending your life. That's one month out of twelve wasted.

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Speaker 1: The phone is a tricky thing, right, And and you

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Speaker 1: said something that I think is very smart. Is it

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Speaker 1: a toy or is it a tool? My godfather a

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: long time ago, when he was giving me the staff

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01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: drug speech and and don't drink and all that stuff,

1393
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: he said, if it's not helping you push forward, if

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Speaker 1: it's not helping you achieve your goals, remove it from

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01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: your life. You'll have time for that later when you

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01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: run out of ideas. Um, the phone thing is tricky

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: because so many people they won't be being honest with themselves,

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01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: but they'll say I need my phone for work. And

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,799
Speaker 1: it's this cop out excuse that I hear so many people.

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Speaker 1: Is there. Do you have a philosophy on breaking that habit?

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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: Because more than anything, for people to get on board

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01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: with the philosophy, it's that first habit that has to

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01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: sort of be destroyed, either brick by brick or all

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01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: at once. Which way do you like more? Yeah? Yeah, No,

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: I like where you're going with that. And for most people,

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Speaker 1: especially with that that worked component, it's become a leash, right,

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01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: It's a leash that's always attached to us. And again

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01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: we always take these things with us every where we go,

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: even to bed, into the bathroom and everything. But yeah,

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01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: and I would I think that's the first thing you

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01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: need to break down, is how do you break that

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: leash that your phone is Because we're checking our email,

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01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: we're checking our slack whatever may be, twenty four hours

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01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: a day, and that's not productive. Um, when it comes

1415
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: to email in particular, I really challenge people, do you

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01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: really need your work email on your phone? And if

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01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: you do. Maybe you only check it morning, midday, and night,

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: you know, maybe three times a day or something like that.

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01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: But but incessantly checking your work messages and sessiantly trying

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01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: to plug in, You're never gonna get to your work.

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01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: You're never gonna get things done. Um you know. So

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01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: it's it's that leash that we need to break, and

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01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: that crap makes people anxious too. Constantly chat what did

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01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: that email? Comes? How to email? Like I see people

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01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: get two shakes because of that. The social media, I

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01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 1: think is the worst part of it because it's being

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: used as entertainment and that's that productive time that when

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01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: everyone at the end of that, I'm so ty wish

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Speaker 1: I had more time. It's like, be you spend three

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Speaker 1: and a half hours on Facebook today, you have time.

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Speaker 1: It's hard, though, to break that mindset. That whole there's

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's hashtags of fear of missing out right phone.

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Speaker 1: That's why people get alerts on their phone, which I'm

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01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: too old to get. I'm forty three years old. I

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: don't get a notification from a single app I have

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01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: outside of texts, I don't even get it. I don't

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01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: even hear my emails come up. I just check them

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. When my wife and

1439
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: I first started dating, there were things called kicks that

1440
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: were out. It was like instant messaging. Every actor had one,

1441
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: but me, Like, I hated being available. I have a

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01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: I have a have an app on my phone where

1443
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: if you text me and I'm driving, it auto replies,

1444
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: i'm driving, I can't talk to you right now. Like,

1445
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: but that's not saving time, that's just trying to be safe.

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01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: But the phone thing, it's how do you convince someone

1447
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: who says their life is their phone, I need this

1448
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: for How do you convince them? How do you show

1449
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: them they don't? Um, I think there's a couple of

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01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: things you can do to approach that. I was about

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01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: to use the word pomo, So I'm glad you went

1452
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: there first. But this this fear of missing out. Everyone's

1453
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: so afraid of missing something instead of actually living their

1454
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: life or doing their own thing. And and if you

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01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: let that rule your life, you're you're not living your life,

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: You're living someone else's urgencies and notifications popping up. UM,

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01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: I think one thing you can do. I'm amazed that

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01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: you got you. Guys sound very disciplined around the notifications

1459
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: and your phones and your technology. But I think for

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01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people, they can really start by, you know,

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01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: doing a self examination of what's on your phone. You know,

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01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: one of the things that challenge people with is what's

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: on your home page or your phone. You know, we

1464
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: don't even have one page now, we got you know,

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: nine pages of apps on our phones. But you know,

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01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: when I when I see somebody open up their phone

1467
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: and the first thing thing that they've got there is

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01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: YouTube and ESPN and whatever else may be, you know, Instagram.

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01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's what you're gonna do when you when

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01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: you're playing with your phone, you're gonna be playing with

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: it instead of using it for productivity. You know, do

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01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: you have your to dos to your calendar or stuff

1473
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: right there instead of those games? You know, that's like

1474
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: asking an alcoholic to look in the mirror that for real,

1475
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: what's what's on the first page of your phone. That's

1476
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: like looking into your own soul and genuinely kind of

1477
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: analyzing what you see and is that something you respect

1478
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: or someone you don't? Do you know, how I approach

1479
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: a phone? This is I hope this this helped me

1480
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: major and I hope this helps other people, Um Craig,

1481
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: I approached my phone as I pay money each month

1482
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: to have this device that gives me access to other people.

1483
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: I do not pay money each month to give other

1484
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: people access to me. So I think that's a big thing.

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01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: People think they have a phone, they have to be

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01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: accessible to everybody, and I have blackout times in the

1487
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: course of my day. Amy knows this. When I'm training,

1488
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: when I'm working out, my phone is nowhere nearly from

1489
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: from nine o'clock till eight am, I have do not

1490
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: disturb on. So if any text or phone call comes through,

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01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: with the exception of my wife, I do not. It

1492
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: does not alert me. My phone is silent from nine

1493
01:18:52,760 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: pm toe that quiet. All four of you comment on

1494
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: what if somebody has a relationship that's long distance, so

1495
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: really they rely on the phone and face time and

1496
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: text id that to be able to communicate with their

1497
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: significant other, Like what do all three of you think

1498
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: and our experts. That's fine. I had to do that.

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01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: My wife and I FaceTime all the time because we

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01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,759
Speaker 1: were living on oftimes. An exception to the rule. Yeah,

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01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: that's like family time though, It's just that that's the

1502
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: construct we live in today. The Jetsons could do it,

1503
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: so we get to do it, you know what I mean?

1504
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: Like that, and that isn't time waste of time with

1505
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: the family. I think it's more the YouTube stuff. It's

1506
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:42,440
Speaker 1: more the waiting for alerts on what celebrity or politician

1507
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: or or or athlete did did what? And oh okay,

1508
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: let me see what everybody's saying. It's like you just

1509
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: spend forty minutes doing nothing. That's why your boss hates you.

1510
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: That's why you don't get in respect. And one that's

1511
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: why you don't get the promotion because you're concerned with

1512
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: that stuff. I know that's hardcore these days, but that's

1513
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: just that's real stuff. This guy really really what you're saying, Freddy,

1514
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,799
Speaker 1: is that a lot of people spend their time watching

1515
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: other people's lives. At the base of it, that's what

1516
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: better than you are spending your time. Gavin and I

1517
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: fighting with you a couple of weeks ago, we Gavin,

1518
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: I were so heated because we're like f this social

1519
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: media where people are just showing their best lives and

1520
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: then remember, everybody came at us. I'll show my worst life.

1521
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: Did they come at us? Yeah? Yeah, it's that's why

1522
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: because because we are making just saying that their pretty lives.

1523
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: What did people come at us online and our co

1524
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: host Gig here's a question, Greg, I have a question

1525
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: for you. What about another topic? Um? What about work

1526
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: life balance? How abo do you advise people there? Um?

1527
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: I think there's two things you can mention there. One.

1528
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'll close the book on the technology for now.

1529
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: We kind of beat the phone thing. But but but again,

1530
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: it's about turning that off. It's about turning that off

1531
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: when you when you go to bed. You know, we

1532
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: talked about the pomo. You know a lot of people

1533
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: that that's what they do right before they go to bed.

1534
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: They don't even talk to their spouse. They're looking on

1535
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: their phone or they're checking that work email. Um, he

1536
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: will separate. That separates relationships. There's nothing more cold in

1537
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: a relationship. It's so weird when you see two people

1538
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: at a table out of dinner. Oh man, they're both

1539
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: on their phones. It's so weird to me. And you

1540
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: see it used to be like a unicorn, but now

1541
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: they're texting. Right, that's very They don't even chat on

1542
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. Okay, sorry, Craig, keep going, No, no,

1543
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. And I actually talked about that

1544
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: on my website. Was like, called it having an affair

1545
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: with your smartphone in the dating sites, but you're having

1546
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: an affair with your smartphone instead of with your spouse. Yeah. Um,

1547
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: but go go back to work life balance. Um Again.

1548
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: I think it's about setting those boundaries. And we've talked

1549
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: about the FOMO, we talked about the interruptions, but I

1550
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,799
Speaker 1: think it's about spending some time. You know, you mentioned

1551
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: how two hours a day adds up to a month

1552
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: of your year. How much are you spending on your

1553
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: life and and you know you can't force quality time.

1554
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 1: It's about spending time on the family, but then also

1555
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: spending time on yourself. And one of the other things

1556
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: that I like to talk to people about is having

1557
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: a hobby. And a lot of people like you made

1558
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: that golf joke earlier for multiplicity, but but so many

1559
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 1: people don't make time for a hobby. They're like, I

1560
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: don't have time for that. But the truth is when

1561
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: you invest in yourself and you invest in that personal time,

1562
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,839
Speaker 1: you actually multiply you know, your time because that passion,

1563
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, spreads to the rest of your life and

1564
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: you're that much more enthusiastic and energetic. And so getting

1565
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: in that golf time, if it's for you or it's

1566
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: you know, whatever your hobby is, can actually give you

1567
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: more time back in your life. And I think that's

1568
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: a something that people don't see, that they need to

1569
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: spend that time on themselves, whether it's at the gym

1570
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: or doing a hobby or whatever it may be. Uh,

1571
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 1: that's that's dead on. And I look, I'm a big

1572
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: believer in that. I found when I was a kid,

1573
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: I figured out kind of what I loved and I

1574
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: never let go of that. And as I grew up,

1575
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: I used to play Dungeons and Dragons as a little kid, right,

1576
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: And as I got older, that group went away because

1577
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: it was all these adults say, no, I don't have

1578
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,839
Speaker 1: time and adult life and all this. And I finally

1579
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: just started making time. And this was a good reason.

1580
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: This was a good part of social media. I don't

1581
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: want to just trash it. I found other people in

1582
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: the local l A area that also played, and we're

1583
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: looking for games and more. And if you make a hobby,

1584
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go on a D and D tenement

1585
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: a tangent. If you if you have a hobby, it

1586
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: means you have passion for it. And if you have

1587
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: passion for something, you will create the time because it's

1588
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: more important to you then watching that basketball game in

1589
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: March madness. It's more important to you than this all

1590
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: this other stuff. It was more important to me than

1591
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: going on dates with pretty ladies. That's how much I

1592
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: loved it. I made it important, you know what I mean.

1593
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: So if you have passion for it, you can make

1594
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,560
Speaker 1: time for it. It's when it's when you're kind of

1595
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: half ascid it. That's when you're like, oh no, I

1596
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: don't have enough time. Greig. I have a question for you.

1597
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: I heard this analogy about work life balance. I want

1598
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: to bounce it off and just get your thoughts on it.

1599
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: Somebody said that to me that work life balance was

1600
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: like a teeter totter. So a teeter totter, you're never

1601
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: just like if you were to sit still, perfectly balanced

1602
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: with the person on the other side, you'd go crazy.

1603
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, You'll be like, okay, I gotta

1604
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: move one way. So it's either you swing. You swing

1605
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: into work a little harder and then it swings down

1606
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: and you swing more into family time, and then once

1607
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: you've had a lot of that, you swing back into

1608
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: some work and it's this little it's a dance. It's

1609
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: like a teeter totter up and down, back and forth

1610
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: that it's it's not really a balance. It's never sitting

1611
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: there where the teeter totter isn't moving, um, because that's

1612
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 1: just boring for everybody. There's nothing there. But it's it's

1613
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: a a give and a pull, or like a push

1614
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: and a poll, and it's coming to coming back from

1615
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: just moving in and out of work and out of

1616
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: family time. Does that make sense to you? Te it was?

1617
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, And it sounds a

1618
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: little a little philosophical there, and if if you want

1619
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 1: to go on the philosophy side, I think it absolutely

1620
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: can be true in terms of you're always going back

1621
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: and forth. I mean, there's never gonna be a perfect

1622
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: stationary point to each stationary point. You're probably dead right, um.

1623
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: But I think it wasn't trying to be more of it,

1624
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: I say, just spreading that positivity rap. You know, it's

1625
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: it's always going to go be going back and forth, right,

1626
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: And you know, we always have busy times at work,

1627
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: We always you know sometimes have you know, either exciting

1628
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: things or drama things at home. So you know, I

1629
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: do think it's a it's that Teter Tyer analogy is

1630
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 1: a good example or good philosophy. I'll say this though,

1631
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: if you remember being on that playground to be on

1632
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: that tier, Tyder, if you ever took it too far

1633
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: and that board hit the ground on one side, it

1634
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 1: wasn't a good feeling for anybody, right. Oh yeah, I

1635
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: used to jump off on purpose just to make guys

1636
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: wipe out. Man, take that time from him and make

1637
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: it my own. But my point, my point is, I

1638
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: think if that happens in our lives, if one side

1639
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 1: hits the ground, you know, everything kind of comes out

1640
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: of balance, you know, and if the if the personal

1641
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: side or the work side goes too far, then it's

1642
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: a jolt to the system for everybody. Yeah. Um, awesome, man. Uh,

1643
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Because I love I love

1644
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: what you're talking about here, Craig. Where can people find you?

1645
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: How to manage your time with Craig Jarrow? Um? Is

1646
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 1: that where you hang out the most? Uh? No? Actually

1647
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: you can find me two places, one on the web

1648
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 1: at time management ninja dot com and then actually, I

1649
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: just had a book come out two months ago. You

1650
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 1: can find that on Amazon. It's twenty one tips for

1651
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: more time and less stress in your life Time Managing Ninja.

1652
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: So check that out. You know what I might do

1653
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: a book? I might start like a book club where

1654
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: I do a book a month. Good idea where I

1655
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: do a book a month. I want to add that

1656
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: we finally get invited over to your house. He gave

1657
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: has been to my house. I just had gave over

1658
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving? Did you about that? Yeah? That's awesome. Can

1659
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: I jump in um? First of all, thank you for

1660
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: inviting me for thanks you because you made my Thanksgiving bro.

1661
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: Thank you love you appreciate very much. But more important,

1662
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: only can I make sure the books are small books? Yeah? No,

1663
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: I like small books. I like small books because you

1664
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: know my eyes get tired. That's something that will put

1665
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: me to sleep. Yeah again, but that's a good stupid

1666
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: a long book. Yeah, it's true. Even when I'm interested,

1667
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: then you know you're gonna quit just based on the

1668
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: thickness of it. You gotta put me to that's true.

1669
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: That's true. I appreciate you, Craig, thank you so much

1670
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: for coming on