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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike, and boy do I have

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Speaker 1: a great episode for you today. I'm sitting down with

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Speaker 1: the stars, directors, and writers of Hell of a Summer,

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Speaker 1: which is a new horror comedy out in theaters now.

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Speaker 1: Finn Wolfhart, Billy Brick, and Fred Heckinger. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about gen Z representation in film right now. In the

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Speaker 1: movie review, I'll give you my thoughts on Minecraft. I've

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Speaker 1: gone back and forth on whether or not this movie

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Speaker 1: And in the trailer park we'll be talking about the

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Speaker 1: new Leonardo DiCaprio movie, One Battle after Another. He is

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Speaker 1: teaming up with legendary director Paul Thomas Anderson for the

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Speaker 2: From the Nashville Podcast Network. This is Movie Mike Movie Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I got to get into my conversation with the stars

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Speaker 1: of Hell of a summer. It is in theaters now.

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Speaker 1: It is a horror comedy starring Finn Wolfhard. You would

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Speaker 1: know him as Mike on Stranger Things. He was also

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Speaker 1: He is a really great actor and now he's directing movies.

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Speaker 1: This is his directorial debut along with his friend Billy Brick,

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Speaker 1: who he co wrote the movie with co directed it

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Speaker 1: with as well. Billy was also in Ghostbusters Afterlife and

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Speaker 1: we also have Fred Heckinger, who you would know from

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Speaker 1: played alongside Joseph Quinn, who was also in Stranger Things,

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Speaker 1: so there's a big connection here. Fred was also in

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Speaker 1: Season one of The White Lotus. He was the son

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Speaker 1: most recently he was in the Oscar nominated movie Nickel Boys.

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Speaker 1: So he is another actor greatly on the rise right now.

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Speaker 1: And in this movie he plays a camp counselor named

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Speaker 1: Jason who's twenty four years old. He's going back to

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Speaker 2: Making a connection with them.

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Speaker 1: He is in charge this year and trying to be

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Speaker 1: a good example, but also trying to hang out with

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Speaker 1: all the teenagers. Anything that's gonna be the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: he has to get over the summer until he realizes

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Speaker 1: there's somebody with a mask going around killing people, picking

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Speaker 1: him off one by one. So the movie is part

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Speaker 1: horror slasher, much like you would expect from a movie

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Speaker 1: like Scream or Halloween, but then it also has a

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Speaker 1: lot of elements of comedy. It kind of reminded me

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Speaker 1: of like Idle Hands back in the nineties, which was

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite horror comedies of that decade, one

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Speaker 1: the way, Finn Wolfhardt is actually working on the reboot

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Speaker 1: of that movie. And I really think this could be

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Speaker 1: a defining slasher movie for gen Z because when you

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Speaker 1: see Hell of a Summer, it is characters talking like

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Speaker 1: actual teenagers would talk. And that's important because when I

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Speaker 1: now in film, because oftentimes the people making movies like

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Speaker 1: couldn't get into this movie. Back when you used to

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Speaker 1: you get hell of a summer. So right now, let's

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Speaker 2: Like your pants, Oh, thank you so much? I like,

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Speaker 3: Not really, but kind of.

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Speaker 1: I wish I feel like a bonder that we all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm liking this.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, I love the movie and it makes

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Speaker 1: And with you guys behind this having just that fresh

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Speaker 1: It just feels like this is what should be happening

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Speaker 1: right now. How does it feel for you guys for

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Speaker 4: That's really nice to be to say it feels great.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's been such a long journey

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Speaker 3: Really surreal to think about, Yeah, because we've been working

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Speaker 3: working with Neon bringing it theatrically nationwide is like kind

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Speaker 3: So it's a bit of a pinch me moment.

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Speaker 1: I have to say, Like Neon has just been crushing

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Speaker 2: Oh well, they they just saw the movie.

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Speaker 3: And then we feel like really fortunate because yes, Neon

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Speaker 2: And really every other everything they just want picture. So

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Speaker 3: It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: It's a testament to how cool they are as a

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Speaker 1: I guess. I think the thing to me that I

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Speaker 1: I found myself thinking, like I started thinking of whenever

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Speaker 1: just killing at random, right, So how did that go

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Speaker 1: Funny because you write it and then you're totally directing it,

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Speaker 2: I don't know it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I love what you said about the movie being sole

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Speaker 1: character Bobby, who's just like, I gotta be good looking

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Speaker 1: to these guys. So what's the how do you write

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Speaker 3: You write every character is if you're gonna play them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So is this movie a lot of like what you

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Speaker 3: I like to think that we're a little more self

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Speaker 3: But I mean, there's definitely I would say that Finn

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Speaker 1: You get four misfits thrown into the overworld with the

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Speaker 1: I remember those having moments like that back in the theater,

440
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Speaker 1: or even watching movies for the first time at home,

441
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: the movies that changed me, the movies that inspired me.

442
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 1: This is definitely gonna be one of those movies. And

443
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the harsh older critics who

444
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: are beating this movie to hell because on paper, it's

445
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: probably not what you would consider to be a quote

446
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 1: unquote good movie. If I went into this movie just

447
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: for the plot alone, I do think it's there. I

448
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: really do believe it because it has a story, it

449
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 1: has character development. The only thing I feel, as an

450
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: adult that is hard for me to overcome and just

451
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: fully enjoy it is some of the performances that have

452
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: to be so over the top.

453
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Speaker 2: Some of the.

454
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Speaker 1: Dialogue is overly cheesy and at times a little bit

455
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: cringe worthy when if you take it out of context,

456
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: like they did in the trailer, you think train wreck

457
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: all over this thing. Because the characters themselves are very cartoony,

458
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Speaker 1: Jason Momoa's character and really all the characters.

459
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Speaker 2: They're really just portray.

460
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: T'srading a live action animated movie because for the most part,

461
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: you really only have four humans in this movie. Jason

462
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 1: Momoa as the garbage Man, Jack Black as Steve Ma

463
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: Myers as Natalie, who was also in Wednesday, which it

464
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: took me a moment to realize, Oh that's her. Danielle Brooks,

465
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Speaker 1: who you might remember from Orange Is the New Black,

466
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Speaker 1: also get sucked into the overworld, and then you have

467
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Speaker 1: Sebastian Hansen who plays Henry. Those are the four main humans.

468
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Speaker 1: You also have Jennifer Coolidge, who really only sticks to

469
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Speaker 1: the real world and kind of has a whole b

470
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Speaker 1: plot going on. So I also feel like by having

471
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Speaker 1: these four characters being the only ones you can interact with,

472
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: and they're interacting with these fictional cubic characters, it's obviously

473
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Speaker 1: going to cause for a little bit of clunky dialogue.

474
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Speaker 1: I did enjoy the visuals in the Overworld. At times,

475
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Speaker 1: I wish they were a little bit more rich. There

476
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Speaker 1: are moments that lacked a little bit of depth for me,

477
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Speaker 1: and there were shots that were clearly just Jack Black

478
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Speaker 1: behind the green screen, or probably the flying scenes where

479
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: it just felt like they had a wind machine and

480
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: the green screen was in the background, and those moments

481
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: looked a little bit just hard to believe and really

482
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: broke that illusion for me of the Overworld, which at

483
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Speaker 1: times looked really fun and vibrant. I loved all the fire,

484
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Speaker 1: I loved all the chase scenes. I loved the scenes

485
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Speaker 1: at night with the creepers coming out. There were some

486
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Speaker 1: pretty good battle scenes. I love the moments they were

487
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Speaker 1: creating all the weapons. I thought all those moments looked

488
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Speaker 1: really good. But sometimes when the action got a little

489
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: bit too big, the special effects that animations really took

490
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Speaker 1: a downgrade. And I feel like that was the biggest

491
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Speaker 1: struggle of this movie. And also for a movie that

492
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Speaker 1: is a minecraft movie all about creativity and building, I

493
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Speaker 1: thought there should have been a little bit more building,

494
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Speaker 1: because the first act really won me over with the

495
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: story I started getting invested with all the characters when

496
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Speaker 1: it came to my favorite. I love garbage Man, played

497
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Speaker 1: by Jason Momoa. I thought his character had a lot

498
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Speaker 1: of heart. I thought he was actually going through the

499
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: roughest patch out of any character in this movie, because

500
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: he was a really big deal in nineteen eighty nine.

501
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: Now he has a video game store that is crumbling,

502
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: he's about to get evicted, and he needs a win.

503
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Speaker 1: And it's probably because I'm in my thirties that I

504
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: would identify more with his character and what he was

505
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Speaker 1: struggling with. But I think through his dialogue and some

506
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: of his actions and fighting, he came across as a

507
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: little bit of a corny character.

508
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: But corny works in this movie.

509
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Speaker 1: Corney isn't always bad, and I think you need larger

510
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: than life personalities like Jason Momoa and Jack Black to

511
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: really pull this movie off, because I can't really think

512
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: of any other A list star who has those comedic

513
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Speaker 1: chops to make this movie work. And someone watched this

514
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Speaker 1: movie and say they gave really awful performances, But I

515
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: think they did what they needed to do to make

516
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Speaker 1: this work, to make it resonate with the kids and

517
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Speaker 1: the young people who are a fan of Minecraft. It's

518
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Speaker 1: just not for adults. And I thought I could recognize

519
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Speaker 1: that I was sold in the story. I was sold

520
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: into the adventure. I thought it moved along really well,

521
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: clocking in just over minutes. I think it was like

522
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Speaker 1: an hour and thirty three minutes. For me, it dipped

523
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: a little bit and act too, where that is where

524
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Speaker 1: I thought they should have had some more exploration with

525
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: the building. It kind of just became your typical family

526
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: adventure movie at that point, and I feel like that

527
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Speaker 1: was the moment for it to really shine and to

528
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Speaker 1: grab the viewer and take him on this journey and

529
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Speaker 1: really own what it means to be a Minecraft movie,

530
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Speaker 1: because I think this is easily going to spawn a franchise.

531
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Speaker 1: There's just no question here. It has it written all

532
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: over it. I think it really easily sets up another

533
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: movie where I feel this movie just lacked an emotional punch,

534
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: which I kind of had to put myself back into

535
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: the perspective of a kid of what I would have

536
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: wanted out of a movie like this, and the character

537
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Speaker 1: Henry resonates with me being a smarter kid growing up.

538
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: I was never the smartest kid, but I was always.

539
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: Looked at as being like, I want to copy off

540
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: of that kid's homework because he's pretty smart. I don't

541
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: think because I was smart was the reason I didn't

542
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: have friends. I was just socially awkward. But I identified

543
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: with the character of Henry in that sense of not

544
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: really fitting into school and just being constantly curious wanting

545
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: to create. I really think his character needed a little

546
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: bit more of a heroic moment to really inspire kids.

547
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: I just think it came to a point where it

548
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: felt like, all right, we have to end this movie.

549
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: Let's just kind of wrap it up here, And for me,

550
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Speaker 1: it just didn't really hit that home run at the end.

551
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: It was a fine ending, but out of everything in

552
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: the film, the ending felt the most generic. But even

553
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: with that being said, the movie did win me over

554
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: a lot. This was a case of bad trailer, good movie,

555
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: which I'd rather have. The opposite is much worse. When

556
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: you see a trailer that is so just slick, makes

557
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: you excited to go watch the movie, and then you

558
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: go see it and leave so underwhelmed. This was not

559
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: the case at all. And it's a movie you're gonna

560
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: see online and probably see a lot of negativity around.

561
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of those that we've been talking

562
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: about recently, where this narrative starts of how bad it is,

563
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: and that's all critics fixate on, every review fixates on.

564
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: But if you actually go watch this movie and experience

565
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: it and remember what you were like at this age

566
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: when a movie like this was directed towards you, you

567
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: would feel that again. So I feel like I've given

568
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: the best explanation I can of where I struggle at

569
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: this point in my life where I still feel like

570
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: a movie like this is so important and I value

571
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: good family friendly adventure movies because they were so impactful

572
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: to me as a kid, so impressionable at that time.

573
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: And one of the main reasons I still do this

574
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: podcast is because I want to see that translate to

575
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: the next generation, to have movies that in a world

576
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: right now where they're grabbing every ip, slapping some A

577
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: listers on it and putting it out in theaters and

578
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: not really caring how it resonates with fans, that movies

579
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: like this need meaning, they need story, they need character development.

580
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: You can't just throw it out in the theaters, throw

581
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: out some cheap merchandise and just try to make a

582
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: bunch of money off of this ip. This one, I

583
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: feel had a lot of intention behind it, a lot

584
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 1: of world building, and maybe in the next one they

585
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: spend a little bit more money. One hundred fifty million dollars.

586
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: Is a lot, but I think if we could get

587
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: it up to.

588
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: Two hundred, two hundred and fifty million dollars, depending on

589
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: how well this movie does, which I.

590
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: Think it's gonna crush.

591
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: I think by a Minecraft movie too, the visuals can

592
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: be so much better. They bring in some more characters,

593
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: get in some more building in there, and I think

594
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: this is a great step in the right direction of

595
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: making great movie video game adaptations because we need them.

596
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: It is low key one.

597
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: Of my favorite genres. It has inspired me to, at

598
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: some point in my life want to go play Minecraft now.

599
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: So for a Minecraft.

600
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Speaker 1: Movie, I give it three point five out of five

601
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Lava Chickens.

602
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: It's time to head down to movie.

603
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: Mike Traylor, Paul Leonardo DiCaprio is the greatest actor alive.

604
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't even think that's too crazy of a thing

605
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: to say. I felt this way for a long time,

606
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: going back to the nineties with Titanic, going back to

607
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: the twenty tens with inception Django Unchain, Leo steps into

608
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: a role and it immediately becomes a great movie because

609
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: not only it's him and his name being attached to

610
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: a movie instantly tell me that it's something that I

611
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: want to watch. It instantly becomes one of my favorite

612
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: movies of the year that it is released, and oftentimes

613
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: enters into my favorite movies of all time. There are

614
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: no other actors I can think in my lifetime that

615
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: have achieved that for me, Not Tom Hanks, not Denzel Washington,

616
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: not Tom Cruise, not Meryl Streep, not Julia Roberts, not

617
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: even Sandra Bullock. And I do love me some Sandy b.

618
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: He is just that type of actor for me, the

619
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: actor the goat in my opinion, and he's now teaming

620
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: up with one of the best working directors, Paul Thomas Anderson.

621
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: The movie is called One Battle After Another. It is

622
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: coming out this year on September twenty sixth in theaters.

623
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Speaker 1: It also stars Sean Penn, Benicio Letro, Regina Hall, Tiana Taylor,

624
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: and Alana Hyam, who was also in the last Paul

625
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: Thomas Anderson movie, Licorice Pizza, which came out in twenty

626
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: twenty one. The movie follows a group of ex revolutionaries

627
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: whose enemy resurfaces after sixteen years. It depicts a race

628
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: against time where they try to rescue the daughter of

629
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Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio and Tiana Taylor. This trailer looks like a

630
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: lot of chaos, a lot of fun, a dark satirical

631
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: comedy with some action thrown in there. Before I get

632
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: into more, here's just a little bit of the one

633
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: battle after another trailer.

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Speaker 2: This is Bob Ferguson. I was a part of the

635
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: French seventy five Steve Locktrow guspah Tacher home and I

636
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: cannot remember for the life of my only child. The

637
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: answer to your question, maybe you should have spent me

638
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: the rebellion text of Little Harner. I need to find

639
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: my daughter. Well, then call us back when you have out.

640
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: At the time, you just you.

641
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Just you know what freedom is.

642
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: No fear.

643
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: That you sense Thanxian sense. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of things I love about this trailer.

645
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: It opens up with what you heard there Leonardo DiCaprio

646
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: at a pay phone speaking in code, which I think

647
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: is really interesting. Sounds like he's trying to get some information,

648
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 1: but it looks like he's frustrated trying to find his

649
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: daughter and he can't remember this password, and it doesn't

650
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: look at this moment like they want to help him.

651
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: So we teams up with the sense Beniso Legoro, so

652
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: he has to track down his sense who in this

653
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: movie looks like he's gonna teach him to live without fear.

654
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: There are some great shots in this trailer, which I

655
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: think really sets itself apart from anything I've seen this

656
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: year so far.

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Speaker 2: There's a really great shot.

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Speaker 1: Of Leonardo and Benicio driving in this car and you

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Speaker 1: see Leonardo DiCaprio like fly out of the car, and

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Speaker 1: just that shot that to him rolling down the hill

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Speaker 1: looks fantastic. It looks like there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of dry humor. You see Leonardo DiCaprio's love interest in

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Speaker 1: this movie shooting off a round of ammunition, so you

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of action, crime and drama as

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Speaker 1: he plays this civil rights activist who is joining this

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Speaker 1: anti government group to take on a white supremacist organization.

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Speaker 1: This movie was shot on thirty five millimeter film, which

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Speaker 1: gives it that rich.

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Speaker 2: Grainy look that I love.

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Speaker 1: Going to the theater to see one of the last

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Speaker 1: movies I saw in thirty five millimeters was actually Licorice Pizza.

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Speaker 1: What I love about that and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see him Like I'm a huge film snob and I

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Speaker 1: can tell the quality of a film, but for me,

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Speaker 1: I like the warmth of a movie. And when I

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Speaker 1: went to go see Licorice Pizza in theaters, which was

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Speaker 1: the last Paul Thomas Anderson movie, it was in thirty

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Speaker 1: five millimeter, you can see the scratches on the screen

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Speaker 1: just subtly. If you pay attention, you can see whenever

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Speaker 1: they have to switch to film reels, you start to see,

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Speaker 1: like this, a little flicker in the right corner, which

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Speaker 1: is the indicator to the projectionist that it's time to

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Speaker 1: flip over to the next one. And there's just something

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Speaker 1: about the way a movie plays on thirty five millimeter

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Speaker 1: that it's almost like if you had your favorite album

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Speaker 1: and you've only listened to it on an MP three

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Speaker 1: player or your CD player back in the day, or

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Speaker 1: you've only listened to it on a streaming service. If

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Speaker 1: you take that same favorite album and you listen to

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Speaker 1: it on vinyl, you can hear the little cracks of

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Speaker 1: the needle you can feel the warmth of the song

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Speaker 1: a little bit more because it adds like this layer

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Speaker 1: of texture that you can't get by listening to something digitally.

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Speaker 1: I think that's why I really enjoy it, and for me,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's watching a movie the way the

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Speaker 1: filmmaker intended you to see that movie. And there are

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Speaker 1: only a handful of directors where I feel that really matters.

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Speaker 1: Paul Thomas Anderson is one, Quentin Tarantino is another one.

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Speaker 2: I would also.

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Speaker 1: Put Christopher Nolan in that category because when I went

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Speaker 1: to go see Oppenheimer and not thirty five millimeter but

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Speaker 1: seventy millimeter, i'm he actually paid for the theater here

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Speaker 1: in Nashville, which is one of the only theaters that

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Speaker 1: has the capability to show a movie in seventy millimeters imax.

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Speaker 1: He paid for that theater to have their system fixed

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Speaker 1: so it could show his.

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Speaker 2: Movie in that highest quality.

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Speaker 1: So there's something about it to me that makes it

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Speaker 1: feel like you're getting it in all of its glory,

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Speaker 1: with it losing as little quality from when it was

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Speaker 1: made to when it gets into your eyeballs. That is

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Speaker 1: why I enjoy it, and sometimes it just gets lost

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Speaker 1: when you watch a little clip on your phone, or

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Speaker 1: you watch the movie on your laptop.

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Speaker 2: So I just.

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Speaker 1: Think that a little bit of that old school Hollywood

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Speaker 1: field exists when you can actually go watch a movie

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Speaker 1: shown like this. And I also know that not everybody

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Speaker 1: can experience it this way, but it is a reason

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Speaker 1: to check your local theater, which is another thing I

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Speaker 1: really encourage.

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Speaker 2: Support your local theater in your.

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Speaker 1: Town or wherever you can get to one close to

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Speaker 1: you that actually shows movies on film. This movie is

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Speaker 1: based on a nineteen ninety novel called Vineland, and the

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Speaker 1: reason this movie hits home it was filmed in the Albosto, Texas.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Texas guy. I was born in North Texas,

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in Central Texas, and also

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Speaker 1: visited West Texas a lot. My dad was a truck driver,

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Speaker 1: so he did a lot of loads over to Albaso,

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Speaker 1: so I grew up going there a lot as a kid.

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Speaker 1: And anytime a movie on the level of scale that

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Speaker 1: this one is is shot in your home state, that

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Speaker 1: means a lot.

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Speaker 2: I really wish when they.

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Speaker 1: Made Blue Beetle, which that story actually takes place in

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Speaker 1: the Albosto. In the comic books that they would have

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Speaker 1: actually filmed it there. They kind of changed his interpretation

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Speaker 1: of where the story was set from the comics to

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Speaker 1: the making of that movie. But I'll take it here

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Speaker 1: with seeing Leonardo DiCaprio in Texas looking awesome, and by

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Speaker 1: the looks of the trailer, it really captures the landscape

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Speaker 1: of the city. It reminds me at times one of

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Speaker 1: my other favorite movies that had some parts filmed in Texas,

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Speaker 1: No Country for Old Men. When it comes to Paul

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Speaker 1: Thomas Anderson, I really enjoy hearing how much actors love

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Speaker 1: working with him. When it comes to me and my

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Speaker 1: relationship with his movies, at times he is hit or

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Speaker 1: miss with me. I can be watching a Paul Thomas

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Speaker 1: Anderson movie and know that this is great and special

751
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Speaker 1: and why somebody who was a real cinophile would watch

752
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: these and enjoy them and be able to dissect them

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Speaker 1: as to why they are such great films. He has

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Speaker 1: been nominated for eleven Oscars in his lifetime, so he

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Speaker 1: is a fantastic director that I always pay attention and

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Speaker 1: take note of anything he puts out. With that being said,

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Speaker 1: he still is hit or miss for me. I can

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Speaker 1: always respect what he does, but they're not always my

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Speaker 1: favorite movies. There are some directors on his level that,

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Speaker 1: no matter what they put out, much like I was

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Speaker 1: talking about Leonardo DiCaprio earlier, I feel like they're going

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Speaker 1: to be my favorite movie. His still have to kind

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Speaker 1: of earn that for me. His last movie, Licorice Pizza,

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Speaker 1: I thought was pretty good, came out back in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. It was a nostalogic coming up age story

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Speaker 1: set in the nineteen seventies. I love the look and

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00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: feel of that movie, the overall aesthetic, more than I

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Speaker 1: did the actual story. His movies are also known for

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Speaker 1: being pretty long. It's reported right now that one Battle

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Speaker 1: after Another is clocking in at about two hours and

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Speaker 1: fifty minutes, which is a girthy movie. And there are

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Speaker 1: some directors who put out longer movies that you really

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Speaker 1: feel that run time. I don't think that's the case

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Speaker 1: with him. I always feel like he utilizes his run

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Speaker 1: times in a really strategic way, and he has a

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Speaker 1: reason for making each act so long. So in this case,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel the two hour and fifty minute runtime

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Speaker 1: on this movie feels as daunting to me as the

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Speaker 1: two hour and thirteen minute runtime of Licorice Pizza. But

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Speaker 1: if I had to pick a favorite Paul Thomas Anderson movie,

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Speaker 1: I think I would go with two thousand and two's

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Speaker 1: Punch Drunk Love because what it did for Adam Sandler's career,

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Speaker 1: who at that time was really just known as the

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Speaker 1: Sandman putting out wacky, zany comedies, and that was the

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Speaker 1: first time we had to look at him being a

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Speaker 1: well rounded actor, of being able to do a dramatic role.

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Speaker 1: And that was a really great movie for not only

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Speaker 1: me is the viewer, but also for Adam Sandler's career,

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Speaker 1: who anytime he dips back in to the dramatic world,

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Speaker 1: I think he references that movie a lot and thanks

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Speaker 1: Paul Thomas Anderson for what he did for his career.

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Speaker 1: So I think because I love Adam Sandler so much,

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Speaker 1: that is why that movie ranks pretty high on my list.

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Speaker 1: But then he's look at Boogie Knights from ninety seven,

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Speaker 1: There Will Be Blood from two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 2: The Master, which I really enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: But anytime I recommended The Master to anybody else, which

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Speaker 1: was the movie with Joaquin Phoenix and Phillips Seymour Hoffman,

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Speaker 1: and it was kind of a psychological drama. Anytime I

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Speaker 1: recommended it to someone they didn't like it. That's a

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00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: movie you really have to be in the mood for.

802
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: But that one really reminds me of back in the

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Speaker 1: red box days, where I would just walk to the

804
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Speaker 1: seven eleven, hit the red box on the way home,

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00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: and watch a movie almost every single night. That movie

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Speaker 1: was right there in my run of just going to

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Speaker 1: the red box so much. But the odd thing about

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Speaker 1: Paul Thomas anderson movies for me is there not really

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Speaker 1: comfort movies that I go back and rewatch a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: Even though they are these really great, important pieces in cinema,

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Speaker 1: I don't often feel like they have the most rewatchability.

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Speaker 1: But now seeing him and Leonardo DiCaprio working together for

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Speaker 1: the first time, I also love me some benicios, So

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Speaker 1: maybe this one could be the movie for me. The

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Speaker 1: movie has a hefty budget of one hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars, so I'm hoping for a lot of action

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Speaker 1: and more surprises. Again, It's coming out in theaters on

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Speaker 1: September twenty sixthez.

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Speaker 5: And that was this week's edition of Movie Line.

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Speaker 1: Tramor Bar and that is gonna do it for another

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Speaker 1: episode here of the podcast. But before I go, I

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Speaker 1: got to give my listeners shout out of the week.

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Speaker 1: Last week we had an interview with the stars and

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Speaker 1: writers of The Ballot of Wallace Island. If you missed

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Speaker 1: that episode, just go back one in the feed. But

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Speaker 1: I gave out the secret emoji that you could comment

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Speaker 1: message me with, and I said I would give whoever

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Speaker 1: replies with that first. And this week's listener shout Out

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Speaker 1: of the Week goes to Victoria Kluba. I hope I

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Speaker 1: am saying your name correctly. It is k l u

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Speaker 1: Ba who applied to my story after I posted about

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Speaker 1: that episode with the guitar emoji. You listen right on

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Speaker 1: Monday morning when I put out the new episode, So

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening. And this week it is time

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Speaker 1: for another secret emoji because we had the stars, writers

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Speaker 1: and directors of Hell of a Summer. So if you

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Speaker 1: want to comment, DM message me send me an email

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Speaker 1: moviemke d at gmail dot com. This week's secret emoji

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Speaker 1: is the camping emoji. There are a couple you can use.

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Speaker 1: There's one that's just the tent, there's one with the

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Speaker 1: tent and the tree. But I'll be posting some clips

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Speaker 1: on TikTok, Instagram, and x You can also check out

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Speaker 1: that full interview on my YouTube page YouTube dot com

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Speaker 1: slash Mike Distro. If you ever forget any of those links,

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Speaker 1: they are always in the episode notes. But that's this

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Speaker 1: week's secret emoji. Send me that and you'll get next

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Speaker 1: week's listeners.

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Speaker 2: Shout out of the week

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Speaker 1: And until next time, go out and watch good movies

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Speaker 1: and I will talk to you later