1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huts. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 2: Giants on My Giants, give me some job, part of 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: the Giants Podcast Network. Let's roll all right, We're here 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: for another episode of the Giants Little Podcast, brought to 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: you by Citizens, the official Bank of the Giants. Johnshvolk 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Poll Theatino at the Combined Indianapolis with from NFL dot Com, 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: NFL Network. 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: The one and only lends your line. Lens, it's good 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: to do this in person. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Good to be here, good to be here, fun to 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: fun to talk football with you guys. Absolutely, and lence, 12 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: let's get into it here. This top of the draft, 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: to me is one of the best tops of the 14 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: drafts I've seen just from a quality of the player perspective, 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: but the premium position perspective. 16 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: I mean quarterback, offensive tackle, wide receiver. These are thirty. 17 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: Million dollars a year positions at the top of the class. 18 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: You guys, it helps. It's not bad, right, you guys 19 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: could use all of them. Uh No, it is. It is, 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: and it's it's a fun draft. And it's a unique 21 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: draft in that you're gonna have five quarterbacks, possibly in 22 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: the first round. You're gonna have five or six tackles 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: possibly in the first round. You've got five or six 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: wide receivers in the first round. You've got about four cornerbacks, 25 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: maybe five in the first round. Then you throw in 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: one defensive maybe two defensive tackles, and a brock Bowers. 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: And that's what and that's what it looks like. That's 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: it's it's gonna flow. And I shouldn't in about five 29 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: pass rushers. So that's it. I mean, that's what it's 30 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: gonna look like. It's mostly going to be cornerbacks, pass rushers, 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: wide receivers, tackles, and quarterbacks, and those are the premium. Like, 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: if you look at it, the positions are the greatest 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: importance in the NFL. It goes like this. It goes 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: quarterback one, pass rusher two. It goes, in my opinion, 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: it goes offensive tackle three, cornerback four, wide receiver five. 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: Any amalgamation of that is what it is. And that's 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: what this whole draft is. The whole first round has 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: gone to, Hey, the most important positions happen to be 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: the strongest position. 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: Now what running back? Not one safety and not one linebacker. 41 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: No, And that's how the pay scale is going too, right, man, 42 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: that's how that's how the game is going. Is I 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: think the first run running back goes in the second 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: round potentially and either Jalen Wright from Tennessee or Jonathan 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: Brooks from Texas. Uh possibly Tray Benson from Florida State. 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: But that's that's the sport. Now, that's the game. 47 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Now, it might not be to the third round for 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: all we don't know. 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: It could slide that far. And and man, the baby 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: blues on this guy. I can't do this thing with 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: these blue eyes. Unbelievable. No, I mean unbelievable. 52 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: This guy. 53 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: That's that's just this is this is this is football 54 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: right here. 55 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: You gotta get you get a guy. 56 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: I'm talking football and this guy's you get John here 57 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: telling me about all these positions, and I'm like, man. 58 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: Shote O'Hara and I actually have blue eye competitions. 59 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: Back at the Giants, Sean, I usually my dad coach 60 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: Sean o'ha Yeah, he had him in Cleveland. My dad 61 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: was a wow bit grumpy. 62 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I really chilled. 63 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: I told Sean, I said, trust me, Sean, he really 64 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: chilled out after that. 65 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: He was a guard then though, I believe Sean was 66 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: a guard. 67 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: And now he's uh, you know now he's like a 68 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: wide receiver. He f tight end. Yeah, man, it's it's 69 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: a transferrt. I'm going the other way. He's losing weight 70 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: and he's offensive line and they're slimming down. But he 71 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: doesn't sit in a chair and write five hundred scouting reports, 72 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: and I don't have dark offices, eating bad food and 73 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: streaming shows in between, you know, in between your brain breaks. 74 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: But speaking of what, you can find all lances scouting 75 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: him for at NFL dot com. Just search for Combine 76 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: tracker and of course the covers NFL Network. It's funny, 77 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: which is just to follow up on the running back stuff. 78 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: Cacuse sa Quon Barkley's a big talk with Texans fans. 79 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: Everyone wants Saquon Barkley. Saquon Barkley. Well, here's the thing, though, 80 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: I don't know the Saquon Barkley is a great fit. 81 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: You know, I go a little deeper, so I don't 82 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: know if he's a great fit in that one cut 83 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: Bobby slowic outside zone scheme. He he does a little dancing, 84 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: and you know I watched him. I watched him play 85 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: at Penn State. I wrote him up at a huge 86 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: grade on him. Obviously had some the high ankle stuff 87 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: and had the ankle injuries and knee injury, and then 88 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: you have you know, offensive line stuff wasn't great. Year 89 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: before last it was good. The offensive line was much 90 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: better last year, not as good. But Saquon's incredibly talented, 91 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: can play, you know, run or pass. And yet I 92 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: think there's a lot of teams who are going to 93 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: have apprehension about adding running backs, and so the way 94 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: the game that we all came up watching has changed. Man, 95 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: It's it's very difficult for me from a projection standpoint, 96 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: because when do you pull the trigger on a running 97 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: back that's really really talented. There's no first rounders this year, 98 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: but how do you handle the running back position? How 99 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: do you handle the wide receiver position. Everyone's paying the 100 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: top wide receivers twenty million plus now, and you have 101 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: a lot of teams who are trading those players like 102 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: these are the best wide receivers, AJ Brown, Tyreek Hill, 103 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: they're getting at Devonte Adams, They're getting traded. They're getting traded. 104 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: So I think the way you build teams is in 105 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: flux right now. And a Giants specifically are really interesting 106 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: because you got to look at quarterback. You know, you 107 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: got to look at wide receiver, But how do you 108 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: value those positions? And where are you going to allocate 109 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: your money? And I think that's why it makes it 110 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: tough for Saquon and the Giants. Is I just think 111 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: some tough decisions had to be made on a good 112 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: football player and we'll see if he comes back. 113 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: But you don't. Teams aren't just going to. 114 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 2: Give away they lose to every other position. I'm sorry 115 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: they have the leverage on running backs, but that's. 116 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: The way it is. 117 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: And and no one is going to overpay a running 118 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: back when they know that they get value from lesser 119 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: drafted players. That's just the way it works. 120 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens, 121 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: so go to that retreat. Knew you move to the country. 122 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 123 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 3: you ready for all that life brings? 124 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: Speaking of the Giants, I'd like to go to your 125 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 4: last mock draft. I know you have a new win 126 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: coming up, but your last mock draft, you've got Fuwanga, 127 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: the offensive lineman, going to the Giants at six, passing 128 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: on guys such as Alt and Neighbors for example, who 129 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: many people you have already pegged for the Giants. 130 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I won't have there now. 131 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: That was coming off the Senior Bowl high. No, but 132 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: you know, I do have Moliite Neighbors as the top 133 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: player in the draft for me. Then it comes to 134 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior, and then it goes Caleb Williams and 135 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: Brock Bowers. Then I think it's Jaden Daniels after that, 136 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: and then Jared Verse. I believe I don't have a 137 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: tackle inside the top six for me. Joe Alt's rock solid, 138 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: looks like a giant, you know. It reminds me of 139 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: Nate Soldier in some ways. I could see him as 140 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: a giant for sure. That would be maybe a little 141 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: early for me from a great standpoint. But also I 142 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: think he's very safe. I think he's a very safe prospect, 143 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: which which. 144 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: I like, you would feel okay moving him to the 145 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: right side if you had to. Yeah, I don't have 146 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: a problem it. 147 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: I f Woga is a right tackle, which is one 148 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: of the reasons I put him there, and I think 149 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: he's one of the preeminent past protectors in this draft. 150 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: But I no, I think you do have to check 151 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: that my dad was an NFL line coach, And you 152 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: know it's funny because I see Max Stark's over there 153 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: with the Pittsburgh broadcast, and Max Starks was a left 154 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: tackle for my dad, and he's big and a little 155 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: slow a foot, so everyone thought he's a right tackle 156 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: now left tackle. 157 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: He didn't. 158 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: He he got guys blocked on the left side, and 159 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: he had struggles on the right side. And some guys 160 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: just don't move the same way right. They're not an 161 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: automatic flip flop. You know, you gotta you basically need 162 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: to see if they have reps over on the right side, 163 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: and then you got to get them in a in 164 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: a workout and see how they move on the right side. 165 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: And some of the stuff will happen here to combine 166 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: when you take a look at Joel. But there's a 167 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: lot of tackles to choose from if the Giants wanted 168 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: to trade back, but I don't think they will. To me, 169 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: it's going to be a fight between quarterback tackle and. 170 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: Obviously wide receiver. 171 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Hey Giant fans, score taste touchdown with Hellman's the official 172 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: mayonnaise of the New York Giants. 173 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: You love turf, You're good at it, so you start 174 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: a turf fizz business, grows, your savings grow, become the 175 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for all 176 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: that life brings? 177 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? I want to retrace just a bit because of 178 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: your expertise involving offensive linemen. I don't recall how you 179 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 4: graded Evan Neil, and we know that he had to 180 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: flip sides and with the Giants, he's had a lot 181 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: of injuries and hasn't lived up to the building up 182 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: to this point. How would you feel about him moving forward? 183 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: Joe Shane has said, we still think he's our starting 184 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: right tackle. Your your response. 185 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: To that, well, Evan Neil is a guy who to 186 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: me had some guard potential to I don't give up 187 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: on Evan Neil. If I need to move in the guard, 188 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: I'm moving to guard. You know he has some weight 189 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: fluctuations in college. I'm trying to pull up his scatter 190 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: report to give you. I liked him. I had gave 191 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: him sixty seventh grade. I thought Evan Neil was the 192 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: top tackle in that draft, and I and what I 193 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: and I think he was, and what I said was, 194 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: here's here's what I had. An executive on An NFA team. 195 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: I know who this is. He said he'll be a 196 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: good pro, but I don't see him as being the 197 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: best tackle to come out of the class. He's getting 198 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 2: an Alabama push from media types in my opinion. 199 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: That was what he said. But I just said Cross 200 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: would have been one of those. Yeah. 201 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: I just said, you know, rare Kin domination of measurables, 202 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: talent and pedigree. I talked about his experience at both 203 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: left and right tackle, ship project on the left side, 204 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: if he can continue to manage his weight. I did 205 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: said Neil will come into the league as a good 206 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: NFL start on either side of the line, but greatness will 207 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: require additional attitude and action. And my thing was he 208 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: took some snaps off and there were times he didn't 209 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: finish blocks, and he didn't play with the same Andrew 210 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: Thomas level of grit. He's more talented than Andrew Thomas. 211 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: He's got better measurables, but Thomas is a more gritty player, 212 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: and that's you know, part of the half the battle 213 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: is is grit and toughnes especially in that division, especially 214 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: in that city, especially with this you know, with the 215 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: history of the Giants, and he hasn't done that yet, 216 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: but I don't give up on him. He's got talent. 217 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: I'll bump him the guard if I need to, and 218 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: if he doesn't get it done there, you're onto the 219 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: next one. But it wouldn't preclude me from drafting tackle 220 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: this year. I'll tell you that much awesome stuff, my man. 221 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. Find them. 222 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: NFL Network drills begin on Thursday at three, and of 223 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: course they have coverage throughout the week on the NFL Network. 224 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Make sure you check it out for Lance and Paul. 225 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm John. 226 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: Will see you next time in the Johnsontle Podcast, brought 227 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: to you by Citizens Official Bank of the Giants.