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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 3: We are rolling with you.

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Speaker 2: Lots of fun and a ton of different topics to

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Speaker 2: dive into. Gavin newsom our friend. We're going to start

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Speaker 2: off with this another big sit down interview. It's amazing

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Speaker 2: how many of those he has time to do. Talking

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Speaker 2: about Kamala Harris NBC on COVID, Our good friend Mark

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Speaker 2: Cuban with an intriguing position on COVID that Buck texted

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Speaker 2: me about this morning.

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Speaker 3: We will discuss that.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, by the way, news wise, has announced that

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Speaker 2: he is going to skip the second Republican debate, which

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Speaker 2: is taking place September twenty seventh at the Reagan Library.

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Speaker 2: What do we think about that? Probably not a huge

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Speaker 2: surprise that he is making that choice. DeSantis and Trump

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Speaker 2: an interesting little interchange as they have gone back and forth.

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Speaker 2: This came out of the Meet the Press that Trump

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Speaker 2: did with Kristen Welker, the new host there, where he

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Speaker 2: ripped Ron DeSantis and the six Week abortion band, the

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Speaker 2: limitations that now exist in the state of Florida. That

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Speaker 2: is a bit intriguing, if only because Trump is actually

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Speaker 2: to the left of DeSantis on that issue and several others.

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Speaker 2: And we'll probably dive into that as well, but I

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Speaker 2: wanted to start with this book. I didn't interview with

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Speaker 2: Adam Carolla. He's been on the show several times. Adam Carolla,

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Speaker 2: formerly of The Man Show, really funny comedian. I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of you guys out there are are fans

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Speaker 2: of Adam Carola. And we talked about Gavin Newsom Buck

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Speaker 2: and Adam Carole had a great analogy. He said, Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom's like a guy who's got a really bad Mexican

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Speaker 2: restaurant and he's decided that he wants to franchise it.

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Speaker 2: That's what he basically said of Gavin Newsom's tenure as

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Speaker 2: the governor of California, that he hasn't done a very

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Speaker 2: good job. People in California are mostly unhappy, but he's

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Speaker 2: decided that he wants to take his California brand national.

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Speaker 2: And for a guy who has expressed that he has

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Speaker 2: no interest, supposedly in being president of the United States,

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Speaker 2: he sure does seem to be doing a lot of

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Speaker 2: national interviews. And he did another one with CNN and

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Speaker 2: I wanted. By the way, Joe Biden also spoke at

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Speaker 2: the UN. I went through and watched a lot of

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Speaker 2: these clips, and he said nothing of any substance or interest,

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Speaker 2: at least to me. I don't know if you felt differently, Buck,

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Speaker 2: but it's like to go speak at the UN and

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Speaker 2: of saying anything that I thought was particularly profound or

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Speaker 3: I thought was very strange.

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Speaker 2: But Gavin Newsom, I wanted to play this because everybody's

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Speaker 2: now getting asked about Kamala Harris says he's absolute. She

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Speaker 2: is absolutely the best choice for Biden's running mate. Of course,

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Speaker 2: she is listen to cut nine here.

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Speaker 4: Nancy Pelosi, she heaped praise on Kamala Harris, but she

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Speaker 4: declined to say whether or not she.

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Speaker 3: Thought that the vice president is best.

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Speaker 5: Person to be on the ticket with Joe Biden at

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, do you.

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Speaker 4: Of course she is Biden Harris administration masterclass in terms

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Speaker 4: of performance, bipartisan deals on infrastructure, bipartisan deals on guns

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Speaker 4: and debt, ceiling on the chips and side.

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Speaker 3: She's the best choice I mean, by.

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Speaker 6: Definition, if I think this administration the last two and

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Speaker 6: a half years has been one of the most outstanding

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Speaker 6: administrations in the last few decades, and she's a member

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Speaker 6: of that administration, she gets the lady and claimed credit

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Speaker 6: to a lot of that success.

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Speaker 4: Answer is absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, buck, what that is like? There's no way that

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Speaker 2: he believes anything that he just said. Are we missing

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Speaker 2: some sort of four D chess? What's going on here?

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Speaker 5: He knows that he's able to say it in a

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Speaker 5: way that almost drips with disdain, but that the words

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Speaker 5: the transcript and say that he was undermining this White House, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's he's singing the required tune here, but

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Speaker 5: he's not doing it with any enthusiasm. He's doing what

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Speaker 5: still have not made Although I've seen there are across

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Speaker 5: the web right now you'll see different pieces people are

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Speaker 5: raising the anxiety over Biden's age, but they're all saying

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Speaker 5: it's almost too late.

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Speaker 3: It's almost too late. I haven't seen enough of.

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Speaker 5: The momentum to bring about a switch or to even

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Speaker 5: So I think Gavin is reading the room with that

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Speaker 5: I'm sure in the next one. Remember, part of what

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Speaker 5: we've talked about here is how important the vice presidential

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Speaker 5: pick is for Trump or for Biden, assuming that Trump

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Speaker 5: assuming Biden is the nominee too, although he is the president,

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Speaker 5: that would be quite a quite a change up, quite

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Speaker 5: a surprise. But Clay, the other part of it is

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Speaker 5: that you're going to have the general election campaign for

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty eight effectively kick off two years into the

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Speaker 5: presidency of whoever ends up winning. So it's not like

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Speaker 5: you have to wait eight years if you get a

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Speaker 5: Democrat victory. Here, Gavin Newsom's not waiting on the sidelines

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Speaker 5: for eight years. He's waiting on the sidelines for two

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Speaker 5: at at you know, that's assuming nothing crazy happens the

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Speaker 5: next few months. So you know, look, he's very he's

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Speaker 5: very slick. We joke around about it. He gets a

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Speaker 5: lot of media attention. He understands that I still don't know.

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Speaker 5: I haven't really seen excellent numbers. I still don't think

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Speaker 5: that he would play very well in the battleground states.

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Speaker 5: And at the national level, our presidential elections are to

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Speaker 5: winning in those places. Right Winning in California for a

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Speaker 5: Democrat is irrelevant. Losing for a Democrat in you know,

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Speaker 5: Wyoming is irrelevant, although I mean doesn't doesn't have a

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Speaker 5: lot of Electoral College votes period anyway, but you get

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I think it's isn't that the most

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Speaker 3: I think it's Wyoming.

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Speaker 2: It might be it was Wyoming. And honestly, this is

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Speaker 2: why Joe Manchin is in such trouble. I think West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: I think Trump won West Virginia by the biggest margin.

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Speaker 2: I think it was thirty nine points. I feel like

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Speaker 2: it was West Virginia one, Wyoming two. If somebody on

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Speaker 2: the staff wants to look that up in the twenty

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Speaker 3: Am I right? Is it wy Is it West Virginia one?

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll have the staff check that. When a staff

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Speaker 5: pull it, it's it's close. It's it's a neck and

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Speaker 2: So here's the problem with what you just said, Buck,

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Speaker 2: and I don't disagree. If Gavin Newsom is on record,

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Speaker 2: which he just said on CNN, hey, it's the Biden

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Speaker 2: Harris administration. They've done an incredible job. How do you

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Speaker 2: justify Yes, of course she should be on the ticket.

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Speaker 2: Of course she should be the vice president if you

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Speaker 2: believe that to be true. Now, how does that not

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Speaker 2: get played in the event that Biden wins, Like I

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Speaker 2: just Harris has to be the nominee. If Biden wins

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Speaker 2: eight years, And frankly, I think that, and I hate

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Speaker 2: to say this, I think that at some point, if

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Speaker 2: like we said, then she's going to end up president

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Speaker 2: again we talked about this last week, just to put

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Speaker 2: Half of every person, half of the people that were

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Speaker 2: already dead in America. So the idea that he at

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Speaker 2: she's going to end up, in my opinion, president of

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Speaker 2: pretend that somehow Biden serves out his whole term and

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Speaker 2: know they're swearing in a new president. I don't see

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Speaker 2: any way that Kamala Harris is not the nominee by

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Speaker 2: almost popular acclamation. If people like Gavin Newsom are now

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why he cares about doing all these

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Speaker 5: What he he can't be seen, Clay, he can't be

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Speaker 5: the future. What he's doing is presenting it as though

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Speaker 3: He's a party line guy. He supports the administration. But

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Speaker 5: At some point in the future the Democrat Party faithful

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Speaker 2: Okay, I understand that, But that would suggest that he

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Speaker 2: they have to pick a nominee. Then he's going to

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Speaker 3: He'll changes tune if he's gonna run.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I don't think he's running now, or

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Speaker 5: rather he's not going to run the next year.

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Speaker 3: I believe we'll see.

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Speaker 5: I could be wrong, but at this point, if anyone

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Speaker 5: I think I have to give them some pretty strong odds.

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Speaker 5: If he's gonna run in uh whatever, at twenty eight,

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Speaker 5: no one's gonna remember what he says now about Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 5: and I just think.

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Speaker 2: It gets harder to step over her if Biden wins. Now, Biden,

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Speaker 2: here's the question. No, he he creates nothing but downside

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Speaker 2: for himself. If he's seemed undermine right now. He creates

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Speaker 2: He creates downside with voters that he's gonna need down

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Speaker 2: the line. This is do you think Gavin Newsom is

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Speaker 2: rooting for Donald Trump to beat Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: I think Gavin Newsom is rooting for Donald Trump to

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Speaker 3: I think because that helps him politically.

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Speaker 2: Think about it as we go to break here in

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Speaker 3: Here's my argument.

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Speaker 5: But I would say, of course, absolutely not. Are you

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Speaker 2: the most in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna have the team clip that, and that's

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, sir, well, yes, because you're now married, so

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Speaker 2: you probably don't hear that very I do not hear

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Speaker 2: Wyoming sixty nine point This is crazy. Sixty nine point

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Speaker 2: of battleground safe states. Right but when I look at

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Speaker 2: it and say, okay, we're down fifty one forty nine

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Speaker 2: right now in the Senate, three that should West Virginia

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Speaker 2: should happen?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: So, I think West Virginia, I think Democrats are basically

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Speaker 2: going to throw in the towel there. We're going to

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Speaker 2: be fifty to fifty. Okay, then at a minimum, you

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Speaker 2: need to win Wyoming or Ohio. Trump won Ohio by

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Speaker 2: eight points. He won Montana by like twelve or something

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Speaker 2: like that. I think those are states that were big

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Speaker 2: red winners. Assuming again we're presuming looking out at the

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Speaker 2: landscape right now, if Trump is on the ballot, he

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Speaker 2: would perform well in West Virginia. He would perform well

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Speaker 2: in Ohio, he would perform well in Montana. We have

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Speaker 2: ample evidence of that from the last two presidential cycles.

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Speaker 2: So there should be some tail, you know, some tailwind,

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Speaker 2: some coattails to elevate whoever those candidates are, and at

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Speaker 2: a minimum, take back of the Senate because as much

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Speaker 2: of a battle as the presidency's going to be, what

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Speaker 2: I want to know, Buck, is when I go to

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Speaker 2: bed on election night next year, in about fourteen months,

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Speaker 2: I want to at least know worst case scenario divided government,

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Speaker 2: because we can't have what happened with the first two

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Speaker 2: years of Biden, where he comes in and look, Buck,

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Speaker 2: as bad as inflation is, no one talks about this.

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Speaker 2: It could have been so much we five trillion, We

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Speaker 2: would have been sitting at thirteen or fourteen percent inflation.

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Speaker 2: And the only reason that didn't happen is because Joe

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Speaker 2: Manchin and Kirsten Cinema said no, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: go for this. But that's how close, how fine the

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Speaker 2: line was between the blowout and you just mentioned we're

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Speaker 2: sitting at thirty three trillion in debt, we'd be like

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Speaker 2: thirty seven or thirty eight trillion in debt. If the

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Speaker 2: Democrats had gotten to spend money like they wanted to.

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Speaker 2: So at a minimum, we have to have a check

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Speaker 2: out there on this. But that is where the landscape

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Speaker 2: looks as we set fourteen months out. My hope is,

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Speaker 2: by the way, that Joe Manchin actually runs a third

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Speaker 2: party candidate, because that's the one aspect that nobody spending

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Speaker 2: a lot of time on. I would say, kind of

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Speaker 2: projecting in twenty twenty four, we know Cornell west right

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Speaker 2: is going to be the Green Party candidate, and I

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Speaker 2: do think that as a black guy running on the

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Speaker 2: far left, he may peel off some support, just like

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Speaker 2: Jill Stein did for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. We

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Speaker 2: know you idiots out there who vote libertarian are going

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Speaker 2: to show up and still vote libertarian in challenge states,

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Speaker 2: and so that's going to be an issue. But if

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Speaker 2: we could get somebody like Joe Manchin on the ballot,

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Speaker 2: I think that that would hurt Biden the most and

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Speaker 2: make a Trump victory or whoever the Republican nominee is

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Speaker 2: more likely.

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Speaker 5: All Right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 5: right now. Thanks for being here with us, everybody. A

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Speaker 5: couple of things to put on your radar. First off, off,

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Speaker 5: national debt today topping thirty three trillion dollars sounds like

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Speaker 5: a lot of money to me. This is a problem, folks.

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Speaker 5: It's the problem that our political system is unwilling, certainly

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Speaker 5: to fix in any meaningful way.

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Speaker 3: I know there's.

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Speaker 5: Discussions about a continuing resolution right now for the budget

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Speaker 5: and a government shutdown and all that we've been through

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Speaker 5: this too many times.

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Speaker 3: The government will not be shut down. They will extend

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Speaker 3: the funding and.

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Speaker 5: People, you can't even get anyone's attention focused on this

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Speaker 5: for more than a few minutes because everyone, I think

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Speaker 5: recognizes that reality. We got the householding the first impeachment

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Speaker 5: inquiry next Thursday. We'll discuss or we've discussed that a

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Speaker 5: little bit. We'll get back into it later. Plus Trump

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Speaker 5: will be skipping the debate next week and instead is

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Speaker 5: going to hold a rally with auto workers in Detroit.

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Speaker 5: As you know, there are strikes right now the auto industry,

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Speaker 5: the unions trying to negotiate the usual stuff, better wages

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Speaker 5: and benefits, a lot of it revolving are also around

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Speaker 5: the electric car industry and how that will be competitive

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Speaker 5: or whether it will be competitive in the future. So

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Speaker 5: Trump going to do that, Clay, we can talk about

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Speaker 5: the decision to skip the debate in a few First off, though,

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Speaker 5: I wanted to let everyone hear this because I think

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Speaker 5: this is an issue that the more people understand, the

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Speaker 5: more they will be furious at the Biden administration for

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Speaker 5: what is a clear dereliction of duty. We are told

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Speaker 5: in so many ways in this country that you have

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Speaker 5: to obey the law, the laws, the law, even though

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Speaker 5: laws can be so complicated at the federal level that

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Speaker 5: you'll have different attorneys have different interpretations of them. And

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Speaker 5: this has been a problem for a long time. We

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Speaker 5: have an enormously complicated legal system on many issues. On immigration,

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Speaker 5: we have a legal system that is complicated by the

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Speaker 5: fact that the federal government decides that the law is

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Speaker 5: no longer can how immigration law doesn't really matter? And

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Speaker 5: I know they say, oh, but what about this, and

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Speaker 5: they'll point to all these things. At the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, you have millions and millions of people who

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Speaker 5: are in the country without legal permission to be here.

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Speaker 5: You have millions more who have entered. The number right now, Clay,

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Speaker 5: it's got to be something over six million, I think

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Speaker 5: is a good estimate. In three years of Biden, we're

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Speaker 5: talking about we're talking about three million, I'm sorry, two

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Speaker 5: million a year over three years on average, not going

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Speaker 5: to get any better. In fact, the numbers look like

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Speaker 5: they're getting as bad in terms of illegal crossings as

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Speaker 5: they've ever been. Here is Bill Malugin over at Fox

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Speaker 5: News Clay announcing over just the last few days, how

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Speaker 5: many encounters meaning people being detained at the border because

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Speaker 5: they've entered illegally. Did they see play This is from

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Speaker 5: Customs and Border Patrol play it.

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Speaker 7: But you're getting some new staggering numbers from our CBP

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Speaker 7: contacts telling us that between Friday and Monday there were

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Speaker 7: over thirty five thousand migrant encounters at our southern border.

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Speaker 3: You do the math on that.

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Speaker 7: That's almost nine thousand every single day, astronomical numbers approaching

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Speaker 7: record highs.

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Speaker 5: Clay, approaching record highs. Thirty five thousand people, I mean,

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Speaker 5: a pretty good sized sports arena full of people who

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Speaker 5: are all entering the country illegally. They're not going through

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Speaker 5: the ports of entry, they're not going through the normal process.

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Speaker 5: A lot of them will end up in major cities

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Speaker 5: like New York. We see what that does to New

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Speaker 5: York City. The Biden administration, I think people have to

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Speaker 5: recognize this is an active decision that they've made to allow.

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Speaker 3: This scam of asylum seeking to continue.

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Speaker 5: And by the time that people will be able to

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Speaker 5: cast judgment in next November on this process, if they

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Speaker 5: know about it, we're probably going to have eight million

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Speaker 5: people who have entered the United States illegally in one

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Speaker 5: presidential term. Yeah, there was and I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you saw it Sunday in the New York Times, Buck,

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Speaker 5: I think it was the front page article about the

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Speaker 5: Darien Gap, which is now become one of the primary

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Speaker 5: conduits to get to the United States from all of

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Speaker 5: Latin America, and for people out there who don't really

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Speaker 5: understand what this thing is.

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Speaker 3: For a long time, the idea was you couldn't walk.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, from Venezuela and obviously take boats and cars

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Speaker 2: and everything else, because this Darien Gap region was considered

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Speaker 2: to be so inhospitable that basically you would never be

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Speaker 2: able to get through this jungle area because and this

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Speaker 2: is from between Colombia and Panama. For people out there

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Speaker 2: that I'm not a geographic wonder star by any stretch

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Speaker 2: of the imagination, but if you picture this area.

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Speaker 3: And buck the article all about it.

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Speaker 2: So the Darien Gap was this supposedly almost impossible traverse

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Speaker 2: area between Colombia and Panama where people could then continue

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Speaker 2: their walk the rest of the way on the Columbia

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Speaker 2: side of the Darien Gap. Now they have built an

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Speaker 2: entire industry that basically is I would encourage people to

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Speaker 2: go read this article about what's going on there, but

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Speaker 2: they will give you. They basically have taken over Columbia

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Speaker 2: sort of. They're not military, but it's like a game basically,

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Speaker 2: and they provide security. But you have to pay a

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Speaker 2: fee to traverse the Dairyen Gap and they'll there are

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Speaker 2: different ways you can go, like you can hire a porter,

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Speaker 2: you can hire boats, you can get somebody who will

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Speaker 2: set up tents.

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Speaker 3: They sell food along the way.

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Speaker 2: It's a massive industry that they have created and it

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Speaker 2: is filled with hundreds of thousands of people now that

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Speaker 2: are constantly walking through en route to our southern border.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think about this and what the incentives

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Speaker 5: are for people. Let's say just and there are illegals

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Speaker 5: coming in from all over the world, one hundred and

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Speaker 5: sixty plus countries represented. But if you look at this

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Speaker 5: you're let's say a migrant. You know, one of the

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Speaker 5: one of the countries where we've had a fair number

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Speaker 5: of migrants come in would be Venezuela, right if and

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Speaker 5: now there's different Some countries are under a special you know,

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Speaker 5: there's a dispensation because of either a natural disaster. I

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Speaker 5: think that was in Central America a few countries for

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Speaker 5: a while. I mean there's specifics for each each nation,

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Speaker 5: but let's just generally speaking, if you're from a South

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Speaker 5: American country, doesn't matter which one you can try to

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Speaker 5: and you have no tie into America, no family here already,

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Speaker 5: you can try to go through the legal immigration process

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Speaker 5: and it will take you years and you may be unsuccessful,

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Speaker 5: or you can do what you're talking about, yeah, where

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Speaker 5: you just get into America. And under the Biden administration,

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Speaker 5: there is no notion of punishment or there's nothing punitive

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Speaker 5: about entering the country illegally. Now you will not be detained,

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Speaker 5: you will not be told that you know you've broken

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Speaker 5: the law, really not in any meaningful way, and in fact,

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Speaker 5: you'll be transported somewhere, given free food, free health care.

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Speaker 5: And then you'll have politicians in America demanding you be

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Speaker 5: given work permits, so then you can compete with particularly

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Speaker 5: those at the lower end of the wage scale in

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Speaker 5: this country, even though you're in the country illegally. It

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Speaker 5: is appalling what is going on. It is contrary where

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Speaker 5: he's told all the statutes and the law, and you

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Speaker 5: have to pay such attention to the law when it

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Speaker 5: comes to like taxes, for example, on immigration. This stuff

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Speaker 5: is being abused left and right all the time. There's

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Speaker 5: constant intentional malfeasans. And you brought up the system that

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Speaker 5: people have set up to get here. It's big business

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Speaker 5: for the cartels now, even saying if you add it

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Speaker 5: all up, it gets to be close to even more

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Speaker 5: than what they make selling Fentonal, right, and you know

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Speaker 5: fental obviously.

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Speaker 3: Did they say that cartel.

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Speaker 2: Traversing of the border to put it in context, is

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Speaker 2: a bigger business, Yes, than any pro sport. There is

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Speaker 2: more revenue being produced. This is not talking about drugs.

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Speaker 2: On the illegal crossing of the border. The cartels make

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Speaker 2: more money than the NFL teams do combined, like they're

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Speaker 2: talking about as big as you know NFL football is.

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Speaker 2: The cartel business to get people illegally into the country

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Speaker 2: is a bigger business than the nfl IS.

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Speaker 5: And over the weekend there were videos circulating online, different

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Speaker 5: news sites picking them up. You know, Fox News had

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Speaker 5: this Daily Mail had this of freight trains coming up

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Speaker 5: from Mexico and they are absolutely, you know, overflowing with

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Speaker 5: single adult males. I should note not with families in

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Speaker 5: these videos, single adult males who are on their way

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Speaker 5: to the US Mexico border to come into the country illegally. So,

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Speaker 5: you know the visualization of a think of you know,

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Speaker 5: some of you've probably been stuck at a railroad crossing

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Speaker 5: and a freight train. You know, those freight trains can

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Speaker 5: just they're like a mile long and these things just

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Speaker 5: go forever. Imagine a freight train where in every single

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Speaker 5: car there are I mean, I'm looking at the photos

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Speaker 5: right now, you know, you're talking about you know, twenty people,

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Speaker 5: thirty people in every car and that's just one train. Yeah,

662
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Speaker 5: and they're all just getting ready to get into the country,

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Speaker 5: our country illegally. The Biden administration is only working to

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Speaker 5: make this easier and more comfortable for them. They're not

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Speaker 5: trying to stop it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing we should add on the incentive

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Speaker 2: structure jobs is one if you come here and you

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Speaker 2: have it. Because this article about the Darien gap. There

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Speaker 2: are women who are pregnant that decide they are going

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Speaker 2: to do whatever it takes to get to the United

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Speaker 2: States and have that baby. Your kid is then a

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Speaker 2: citizen and you will never be kicked out. So again,

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Speaker 2: incentive structures matter. And I want everybody out to pretend

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Speaker 2: that you are in Venezuela. You are a part of

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Speaker 2: the broken socialist system of Maduro. There's probably a decent

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Speaker 2: chance that you have family or friends who live in

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Speaker 2: the United States now buck, they may not live now

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Speaker 2: near you. South Florida has a huge Venezuelan fily, a

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Speaker 2: ton of Venezuelan migrants here. Yeah, And if you knew

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Speaker 2: that you had family living in the United States, this

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Speaker 2: land of milk and honey, and all that it took

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Speaker 2: was you getting to the southern border and getting into

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Speaker 2: the United States, and that your child would then become

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Speaker 2: a citizen of the United States, wouldn't you do everything

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Speaker 2: in your power to get here.

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Speaker 3: I would. I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: If I were Venezuelan and I had friends and family

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Speaker 2: living in the South Florida area, living anywhere Franklin in

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Speaker 2: the United States, and I was talking to them on

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Speaker 2: the phone and they were saying, you know, I'm making

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00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: forty x what I was making, and my wife or

693
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Speaker 2: girlfriend just had a baby, and I've now got an

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Speaker 2: American citizen son or daughter. This is a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: And this is why Buck, I think there needs to

696
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Speaker 2: be a serious conversation. We have to have this conversation

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Speaker 2: birthright citizenship. Trump said he was going to end it

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Speaker 2: in his first term, and he said he was going

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Speaker 2: to end in his first term. He says he will

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Speaker 2: end it in his second term. He did not end

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Speaker 2: it in his first term. Okay, but I hear hardly

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Speaker 2: anybody talking about it to me. With this debate coming

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Speaker 2: up on September twenty seventh, I think this is a

704
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Speaker 2: situation and again a lot of people don't want to

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Speaker 2: even think about this. The argument for birthright citizenship. I'm

706
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Speaker 2: not talking about if you are a citizen and you're

707
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Speaker 2: serving overseas in Korea or you're serving overseas in Germany,

708
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Speaker 2: your kids should certainly.

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Speaker 5: Be of course, that is what the law says, subject

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Speaker 5: to the jurisdiction thereof meaning you are a US subject

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Speaker 5: abroad you are not somebody who is a foreigner who

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Speaker 5: comes here.

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Speaker 2: This, the birthright says, doesn't exist hardly anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 2: You know, go to Japan or China and have a

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Speaker 2: baby there and then have dual citizenship because you're an American,

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Speaker 2: they're also a Japanese. That the legacy of this, and

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Speaker 2: I researched it and wrote about it a lot in

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Speaker 2: my book Buck. This is a colonialius legacy. The idea

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Speaker 2: was back in the day, if you're going to be

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Speaker 2: willing to go to Brazil and live in a colony,

721
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Speaker 2: or you're willing to come to the United States, your

722
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Speaker 2: kids would be British subjects because they didn't want to

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Speaker 2: give up their ability to be connected to the homeland.

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Speaker 2: That's why only two I think of the G seven,

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Speaker 2: America and Canada, actually have by soil citizenship.

726
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Speaker 3: If you're born there, you become a citizen. Well, you

727
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 3: can just think this through.

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Speaker 5: If you're an American serving in let's say Germany, or

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Speaker 5: you know, you're an American serviceman or something, your wife

730
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Speaker 5: gets pregnant, you have a kid there, guess what that

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Speaker 5: kids in America very straightforward.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise you're going to have a whole problem.

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Speaker 5: It is not for me or that kid is not German, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: And so you apply that same logic to what happens

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Speaker 5: in this country, and you can see how the whole

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Speaker 5: premise is wrong. I mean, the premise that you could

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Speaker 5: have a foreign national, not with the legal permission to

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Speaker 5: be in the United States, who gives birth here and

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Speaker 5: then that person is is defined as an American for

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Speaker 5: the purposes of law.

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Speaker 3: That's wrong.

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Speaker 5: And you know it's wrong, especially when you see the

743
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Speaker 5: way that these birth hotels are set up in because

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Speaker 5: they've actually prosecuted people for this in California specifically with

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Speaker 5: particularly Asian and Chinese. Individuals will pay to come here

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Speaker 5: to have their baby here to go back to China,

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Speaker 5: and then eighteen years later their kid is a US

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Speaker 5: citizen and wants to go to Berkeley and wants to

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Speaker 5: you know, and is a US citizen for all intents

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Speaker 5: and purposes.

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Speaker 3: Right, You're not.

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Speaker 5: That's actually illegal. You're not allowed to do that. There's

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Speaker 5: a reason why that's illegal. But the the system here,

754
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Speaker 5: the more people that get piled into the system who

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Speaker 5: are illegal, the greater the weight to just do exactly

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Speaker 5: what the Democrats want, which is a mass amnesty which

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Speaker 5: will forever change the American electorate.

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Speaker 3: That's the plan.

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Speaker 5: And people who say, oh, they won't have they won't

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Speaker 5: be uh, they won't be given voting rights. Sure, sure,

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Speaker 5: sure they won't right. I mean, this is like go

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Speaker 5: back evenn Reagan, was it an eighty six. I think

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Speaker 5: Reagan went along with an amnesty. He did, and it

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Speaker 5: was one of his big regrets, he would say later

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Speaker 5: on in life, because the amnesty happened, but all the

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Speaker 5: border security that didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And also, by the way, what we do know happen,

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Speaker 2: buck is all these kids that are born here are

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Speaker 2: citizens and they'll be able to vote.

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Speaker 3: So that's millions.

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Speaker 5: Of course, with war, we've got one political party that

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Speaker 5: says that your parents should be made citizens tomorrow, and

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Speaker 5: another political party that's kind of sort of sometimes saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: maybe we shouldn't reward this process of coming to the

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Speaker 5: country illegally.

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Speaker 3: I think we all know who you know they're more

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Speaker 1: More The Truth Compass Pointing Do Right every Day, The

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All Right, you

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Speaker 2: got a couple of things I want to hit, but

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Speaker 2: we asked Congressman Boeber to come on the show.

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Speaker 3: It's got a great sense of humor.

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Speaker 2: I think if she were going to do a media outlet,

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Speaker 2: this would be the one that she should do to

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Speaker 2: talk about what has turned into a huge fake faux

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Speaker 2: rage incident.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to use the term faux rage a lot,

810
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Speaker 2: where people just pretend to get outraged by something that

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Speaker 2: they actually don't really care about very much. And the

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Speaker 2: idea that you could be someone who was fine with

813
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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton getting a blowjob from an intern, and you're like, hey,

814
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Speaker 2: we've got to make sure that he stays in office,

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Speaker 2: as many Democrats were, and then you could simultaneously come

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Speaker 2: out and say, but this Lauren Bobert behavior during the

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Speaker 2: Beatlejuice musical is completely unacceptable, and that is what a

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Speaker 2: lot of them are bargain. And we talked about it

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Speaker 2: the other day with the Virginia State House candidate who

820
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Speaker 2: had the sex tape, Howard Sternbuck, who used to put

821
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Speaker 2: lesbians on the radio having sex live on air, came

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Speaker 2: out and said that Warren Bobert's behavior during the Beatlejuice

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Speaker 2: musical was completely unacceptable and I'm paraphrasing in here and

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Speaker 2: Lauren Bobert I think got caught by TMZ. The offer

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Speaker 2: to come on this show stands out. But I was

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Speaker 2: reading the transcript on this and it's actually pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: Here's Lauren Bobert Buck responding to the controversy surrounding her behavior.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe this is a real story during a

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Speaker 2: Beatlejuice musical performance.

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Speaker 3: Listen. Ultimately, all future date nights have been canceled, and

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Speaker 3: I learned to check party affiliations or you go on

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Speaker 3: a team.

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Speaker 5: But all in all, you know it was it was

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Speaker 5: mostly a lovely time, and you know, I've taken responsibility

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Speaker 5: for my actions.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to know how the musical ended. Is that

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Speaker 3: is that date in life? Is that over with him

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Speaker 3: because of some papers like because he he had a

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Speaker 3: drag long all.

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Speaker 2: His his Yeah, nothing to do with anything or anybody recorded.

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Speaker 5: But honestly, oh so, first off all, I'm getting the

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Speaker 5: sense that the relationship or whatever it was is over right,

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Speaker 5: That's that's the part of the news from this. She

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Speaker 5: made a comment check party affiliations before you go on

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Speaker 5: a date. I guess the guy was a Democrat, So

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Speaker 5: you could argue that was her first mistake.

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Speaker 2: I so, first of all, that's a funny line. I

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Speaker 2: wonder how the musical ended. Give credit to her. I

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Speaker 2: think she's got a pretty good sense of humor. Fuck,

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Speaker 2: Howard Stern is afraid to leave his apartment because of COVID.

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Speaker 2: He stayed in his apartment for two plus years. He

852
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: basically wants lockdowns to return. And now he's outraged by

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Speaker 2: behavior on a date and thinks that because of the

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Speaker 2: outfit that Bobert was wearing and because of what happened

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Speaker 2: on the date, that she shouldn't be able to represent

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Speaker 2: the state of Colorado. That's what he argued on his show,

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Speaker 2: and we had some clips, but the clips are evidently

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Speaker 2: not able to be aired on regular radio. To me,

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Speaker 2: Howard Stern is a great example of someone that used

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Speaker 2: to be I think he used to consider himself a

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Speaker 2: Republican whatever you think about that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, really, yeah, I think he did. I was never

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Speaker 5: a listener. I was a rush listener. I did not

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Speaker 5: have time for this, mister Howard Stern fellow.

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Speaker 2: I appreciated and thought many Howard Stern clips were funny

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Speaker 2: over the years. I think he's a talented radio guy,

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Speaker 2: but I think actually his trajectory is so interesting and

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Speaker 2: evocative of what's happened to the left in this country.

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Speaker 2: Because whatever you think of Howard Stern, he used to

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Speaker 2: be a rebel. FCC was always after him. He was

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Speaker 2: always in danger of losing money, losing a show, violating

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Speaker 2: the rules and promulgations associated with radio.

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Speaker 5: He said he is in the past probably a Republican

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Speaker 5: if you look at some of the issues that he

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Speaker 5: cares about.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that really means, but I think

877
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 2: he talked about running as a repeat. I bet there's

878
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: people who listen to us now that used to be

879
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: Howard Stern listeners. I'm very confident of that because Stern's

880
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: Pathbuck has been from I'm an outsider, I am a idiosyncratic,

881
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: interesting thinker who is not in the mainstream, to becoming

882
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: the most dogmatic enforcer of the people in positions power.

883
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: Wear a mask, don't leave your house. Oh my goodness,

884
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: can you believe what that girl is wearing. He's now

885
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: everything that he used to hate. And this is I

886
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: think Buck really important for people out there listening. Republicans

887
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: have for the first time in my life and I

888
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: wrote about this a lot in my book, An opportunity

889
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: to actually be the party that is pro full flourishment

890
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: of creativity that the Left has become so dogmatic in

891
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: its enforcement of what's acceptable to say and do that

892
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: just by being a party that likes jokes, just by

893
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: being a party that is pro hey, wear sexy dress

894
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: and go on a date if you want, That's how

895
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: I think you go back and reclaim some of these

896
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: voters that have been lost, particularly younger people, because they

897
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: don't want to be the part of young people on

898
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: some level enjoy rebelling. And the idea that the left

899
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 2: in this country has become the school arms, the people

900
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: wagging their fingers and saying, oh my goodness, you can't

901
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: do this or you can't do that is something that

902
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: I never would have believed would happen in my life.

903
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: And I think Howard Stern is emblematic of that trajectory

904
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: because he's become everything that he used to claim to hate.

905
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 5: Look, all you have to know is if somebody is

906
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 5: as crazy about COVID as he is, you can't trust

907
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: their judgment on anything anymore. I think they have become effectively,

908
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 5: you know, overtaken by an anxiety disorder and that affects

909
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 5: their ability to see the world. I think, very very broadly,

910
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: especially when you start talking about policy and politics. Look

911
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: on the Lauren Bovert thing, that one thing that sticks

912
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 5: out to me is they're trying to run now, they're

913
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: trying to say that that she's effectively committed a crime.

914
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I like to this is something else that

915
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 5: they like to do. And this this, uh you see

916
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 5: this on the left. They're the same people, I will

917
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 5: point this out, the same people who are writing and

918
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 5: these are you know, I think up on the Drudge

919
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 5: Report right now, which used to be like one of

920
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 5: my favorite websites, and unfortunately it has gone gone over

921
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 5: to uh it has a bandoned the forest and has

922
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 5: joined the dark side. But I think there's a story

923
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 5: up there about how maybe Lauren Bobert, you know, broke

924
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 5: a broke a lot or something. Sure, these the same

925
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 5: people who will go along with that and say something

926
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 5: like that. And there's a whole lot of other cases

927
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 5: or you know, allegations against you know, people that are.

928
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: On the right or in some way out of favor

929
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: with the left.

930
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 5: Those same voices will be the ones that are shouting

931
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 5: at you who are having any problem with grown men

932
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 5: in fishnets and thongs dancing in front of little kids

933
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: at drag queen story or not sorry abag in these

934
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 5: drag queen brunches that they were doing for a while.

935
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 5: So Lauren Bobert, you know, consenting adults. You know, she's

936
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 5: getting a little hand they're getting a little handsy. I

937
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 5: don't believe anything was exposed that they're saying might be

938
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 5: a crime. But the same voices on the left that

939
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 5: will try to say, oh, we should look at that

940
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 5: as some kind of a violation of statute maybe are

941
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 5: the same people that think that kids should be at

942
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 5: these drag you know what I mean, Like, there's yeah,

943
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 5: they use these things as a weapon. There's no decency,

944
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 5: there's no foundational ethics or morality that they draw upon

945
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 5: for these distinctions. It's just they the other team we

946
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 5: will destroy and our team we will defend. Yeah, And

947
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 5: you know, I think you see that to the point

948
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 5: about Howard Stern and saying, oh, well, I mean he's

949
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 5: kind of weird, but I don't know what his politics

950
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 5: really are. But the people that are attacking Lauren Bobert

951
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 5: for this, to your point, are the same people who.

952
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: Are fine with the Virginia State rep you know, running

953
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: and that playbook twenty five years ago. Twenty years ago,

954
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: even if Howard Stern saw a picture of Lauren Bobert

955
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: in that dress, he would have said, my goodness, this

956
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: is the best looking congresswoman on the planet.

957
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: Why isn't she in the Senate? Why isn't she running

958
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 3: for president?

959
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 2: He would have talked about how good looking she was

960
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: as evidence of why he cared about her. Right now,

961
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: the dress that she's wearing is so unacceptable that she

962
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to represent the state of Colorado.

963
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I would think this is just a this

964
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: is a crazy.

965
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: Trajectory, and I don't think Howard Stern is alone in it.

966
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: Buck the people who would have gone to would Why

967
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: has Howard Stern upset about this? Given that you think

968
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: that he's kind of a Republican, Like, why.

969
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 3: Is he like that?

970
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 6: No?

971
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 3: I think he I think he now he has said

972
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: in the past that he was a Republican.

973
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: I think that he has so gone left, and so

974
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: I almost think that he's afraid of some of the

975
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: jokes that he's made in the past, and he's like

976
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: falling down on his hands and knees, beggaring to not

977
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: get canceled.

978
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 5: Do you think do you think COVID might have switched

979
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 5: the circuitry in his brain, because I think that's happened

980
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: to other people. I think they'd got full leftist because

981
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 5: COVID broke them. I think that that has certainly accelerated.

982
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 5: I think Trump started to break him. I think he

983
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 5: is a representation of someone in creative space who, prior

984
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 5: to Trump had somewhat reasonable insane perspectives. And the thing

985
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: is here, Bucket, I think is so important, and you

986
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 5: kind of hit on it. We talked about it yesterday.

987
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: There is a principle if you are out there listening

988
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: to us right now, and your principle is.

989
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: I don't want for.

990
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: People who engage in acts of immorality, right, whether it's

991
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, whether it's Lauren Bogert on a much smaller scale. Right,

992
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: If your perspective is personal behavior matters deeply to you

993
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: and you would not want to vote, there's some people

994
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: out there, buck who don't want to vote for somebody

995
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: who's gotten divorced. Right, Like this has been an issue before,

996
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: Like if personal morality is of.

997
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: Extreme importance to you.

998
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: I understand that, but I think you have to apply

999
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: it consistently and if it isn't, then I think you

1000
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: look at it on a case by case basis and say, Okay,

1001
00:51:59,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: is this acceptable or not.

1002
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 5: And this is what I meant about, especially allegations that

1003
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 5: involve anything that is in the in the realm of

1004
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 5: you know, uh, sex, sexuality, these sorts of things. Yeah,

1005
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 5: you know, Joe Biden was accused by a Senate staffer

1006
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: of sexual assault on the record by name, knew him,

1007
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 5: very retailed for years, and it is never brought up

1008
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 5: by the same people who will say that the you know,

1009
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 5: the Egen Carol allegations are obviously you know, they'll say

1010
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 5: it's obviously true in the whole thing. They never bring

1011
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 5: it up because morality to them is a joke. It's

1012
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 5: just the pretense of morality that can be used as

1013
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 5: a weapon. Yes, And I think we see that against

1014
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 5: a lot of people these days. And it is the

1015
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 5: leftist authoritarians who are the most vicious, who will who

1016
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 5: will cast out presumption of innocence, you know, the Kavanaugh

1017
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 5: effect I've called that comes to mind as well. This

1018
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 5: is something that people need to really think long and

1019
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 5: hard about, because this becomes a situation where I mean,

1020
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 5: you know, you're gonna serve in public You're going to

1021
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 5: serve in public life, you member of Congress. If people

1022
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 5: are going to throw the book at you for for

1023
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 5: what really vaping and you know, uh, heavy petting or

1024
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 5: whatever they caught, I don't know what.

1025
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what that's what the phrase is. But yeah,

1026
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things, it is a non entity.

1027
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: And yet because she's a Republican, it is a monster story.

1028
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: And by the way, I would just encourage everybody out

1029
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: there listening figure out what your own personal line is

1030
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: and try to apply an even standard regardless of the politician.

1031
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 5: Wasn't there a staff a Democrat female member of Congress

1032
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 5: who was having like a threesome with the staffers and

1033
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 5: and then she said that it was like persecution because

1034
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: she's a woman, you know what I'm talking about.

1035
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: It wasn't that.

1036
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: I think she was a California congresswoman. She lost her seat,

1037
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: right there were sex tapes or nude photos or whatever

1038
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: that came out of her.

1039
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean I.

1040
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 5: Look at that, and and you know, I'm saying Democrats

1041
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 5: defended that though they said that sexist, that she may

1042
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 5: be the perfect example is this Virginia Republican who was

1043
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 5: taking money to engage in sex acts on camera, and

1044
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 5: then when the story came out that she had done that,

1045
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 5: she said she was a victim of revenge porn.

1046
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: It's like, no, if you are a porn star.

1047
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: It isn't a crime for people to decide to factor

1048
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: in that you are a porn star and whether they

1049
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: want to vote for you or not. Like if you

1050
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: are and I don't know what the definition of star is,

1051
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: but if you are in a porno, if you're having

1052
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: sex for money on camera, to me, you are a

1053
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 2: porn star, right Like that you haven't chosen to engage

1054
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: in pornography. That is very much in the in the

1055
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: public ze. I guess I think that's very reasonable for

1056
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: any voter in Virginia to consider. Now, maybe maybe that

1057
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: makes you more likely to vote for him. I think

1058
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: that would be crazy, But you have that right. But

1059
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: the idea that she can be a victim and and

1060
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: that you should still vote for in Virginia. And meanwhile,

1061
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: Warren Bobert should be kicked out of Congress. There's there's

1062
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: no way to make those two arguments and have a

1063
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