Speaker 1: Yeah, back to stepping on the beach, the only place
Speaker 1: to read your emails and tweets. It's Wednesday, July fifteenth.
Speaker 1: I'm Jays Skeets and alongside me ready to toss around
Speaker 1: the old football on the sand, tass Melice.
Speaker 2: While we're tossing it around, first, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Justice Ginsburg,
Speaker 2: get healthy, Ruth, fight it off like you always do.
Speaker 1: And well, well, well look who escaped from the yurt.
Speaker 1: It's the bearded one, Trey Kirby. Ow heyo. Nice to
Speaker 1: have you back, buddy. We got the international man of
Speaker 1: mystery taking it to the max Lee Ellis friends, but
Speaker 1: not least making the magic happen here. It's jd Hell
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in pod City the basement right now in
Speaker 3: Lake Holiday, Illinois. Been outside a lot for the past
Speaker 3: five or six days, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: How was the yurt experience. I know, we saw a
Speaker 1: little bit of video. You gave us the mo vernie
Speaker 1: like hotel room tour in that yurt, But how does
Speaker 1: sleeping go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty quick tour in the old yurt. It's just
Speaker 3: beds and fans in there. We walked in, it was like,
Speaker 3: you know, the middle of the day, probably two o'clock.
Speaker 3: It was like one hundred and ten degrees. It felt like, well,
Speaker 3: I was instantly regretting my decision.
Speaker 4: How are we going to sleep in here? But then
Speaker 4: night falls and it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: In the year, slept easy, you know, because my kids
Speaker 3: didn't sell Laura had to go hop in the bed
Speaker 3: with them. I had a nice giant bed all to myself,
Speaker 3: you know, hopped up on the top bunk a little bit.
Speaker 4: Trying to throw it back to the summer camp days.
Speaker 4: Was a good time.
Speaker 1: Oh nice. Yeah, that yurt was way bigger than I
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be. I get it was like
Speaker 1: like a campground type thing. So it makes sense that
Speaker 1: you got to put a lot of kids in their
Speaker 1: counselors or whatever. But you know, I had it in
Speaker 1: my mind like just like much smaller. The thing was huge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: The first year, and I ever stayed in in my
Speaker 3: previous year experience, it was meant to sleep two or three,
Speaker 3: so that was.
Speaker 4: What I was expecting as well.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I can't imagine having twenty boys
Speaker 3: in there, you know, in the middle of summer. Well,
Speaker 3: that's a fart year it if you ask me, that's
Speaker 3: such a.
Speaker 5: Great wood yet hearing.
Speaker 1: It, yeah, it's fun to say, you know wrong. Al Right, guys,
Speaker 1: check out the Before we get into the questions, I
Speaker 1: want you to check out the new podcast feed on
Speaker 1: the Athletics. It's called The Athletic NBA Show. We had
Speaker 1: Big Wahs on yesterday's No Dunks pod. He of courses
Speaker 1: on hoops adjacent with Hall of Famer David Aldridge. That's
Speaker 1: a part of the Athletic NBA Show, and he was great.
Speaker 1: He was a fun guest. He not only give us
Speaker 1: the four to one one on all the shows within
Speaker 1: that podcast feed, but we had a bunch of fun
Speaker 1: questions for him, some serious ones, some silly ones about
Speaker 1: the bubble and he was killing it. So make sure
Speaker 1: you go check out that podcast with Big Waz posted
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Speaker 1: Pretty good?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Nick was pretty good. Yeah, he was just chilling
Speaker 5: out in Atlanta, sweltering like I was. And we popped
Speaker 5: the pack, got some nice cards in there. Had a
Speaker 5: nice little off the court card with Nick as well,
Speaker 5: which you might want to check out. I knew he
Speaker 5: was a member of the old NBA team and an
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Speaker 5: all NBA team. Go and check it out.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting little teas right there, and we'll very likely
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Speaker 2: Task first one Miska Muska, No Dog's Crew. There has
Speaker 2: been some talk leading up to the restart about players
Speaker 2: being able to sit courtside to watch other teams play.
Speaker 2: I have visions of Pat Bev trash talk in the
Speaker 2: competition while wearing the same white T shirt he's worn
Speaker 2: all month. Yeah, he's got him stacked in his room
Speaker 2: if you've seen his videos, those white teeth. But I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to some players doing things to get their
Speaker 2: NBA peers pumped. Who do you predict will be your
Speaker 2: favorite player's favorite player. I'm going with some not so
Speaker 2: obvious choices of CJ McCollum as someone who will cross
Speaker 2: up a big on a switch and get some ooze
Speaker 2: and Tim Hardaway Junior catching fire from three flip down.
Speaker 2: Hate you guys terrible. That's nice. I'm Matt from Portland.
Speaker 2: So who are other NBA players going to be excited
Speaker 2: to watch in person?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Tough question to get it started here. I love
Speaker 1: the Tim Hardaway junior suggestion, though, you guys know, I
Speaker 1: got Timmy Hardaway going for fifty in the bubble. It's
Speaker 1: still alive. Why not he could catch fire, although it's
Speaker 1: a weird one tasks, maybe just because it's in the
Speaker 1: news recently. He's got a great name. Looks like he's
Speaker 1: gonna have more of a prominent role on what should
Speaker 1: be a good team. Give me shake, Milton, give me shake,
Speaker 1: maybe impressing some of the other NBA players who maybe
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about his game, but being on
Speaker 1: again on a good team, looks like he's gonna get
Speaker 1: the starting point guard spot, Simmons moving to more of
Speaker 1: a four position there. If the Sixers play well and
Speaker 1: shake Milton balls out like he was. You know, but
Speaker 1: before the hiatus, when he was really filling in for
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons at the point corposition, you know, I could
Speaker 1: see some well, who is this guy? Oh? Those Sixers
Speaker 1: looking good. I've got a real point guard here, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just this is a tough question,
Speaker 1: but I could see it going there maybe or he
Speaker 1: would get some love on social media accounts from some
Speaker 1: of the other NBA players.
Speaker 2: It's a good one and the Sixers teammates, it feels inevitable,
Speaker 2: like when he pulls off a nice move, like they're
Speaker 2: all gonna do a little shake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this shape.
Speaker 2: It's player that players in the stands as well. You
Speaker 2: can't help it. The Sixers are an exuberant bunch. I'm
Speaker 2: sure they'll be doing the shake shake. And Joel embiid
Speaker 2: he sounds pretty pumped to be playing with a guard
Speaker 2: who can let it rip like he wants a jj
Speaker 2: reddick back like he had last season, and I think
Speaker 2: he's going to be pumped. It's weird to hear Ben
Speaker 2: Simmons say I'm gonna be setting picks for a guy
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be playing the pick and roll or
Speaker 2: the pick and pop, pick and pop, Ben Simmons, It's
Speaker 2: strange to hear him say that. But yeah, I can't
Speaker 2: wait to see that workout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you guys got.
Speaker 5: I think we've already seen a little bit of a
Speaker 5: return of one of the greatest romances in history with
Speaker 5: Toby and Bobie back in the bubble together, and I
Speaker 5: think you know this one obviously, Bobi he plays a
Speaker 5: little bit more sort of garbage time minutes, but I
Speaker 5: think every basket he's going to get, you know, Toby's
Speaker 5: going to be on the side cheering him on. Everyone's
Speaker 5: going to be cheering on Bobe.
Speaker 1: Everyone loves him.
Speaker 5: And I actually think, you know, talk about Joel Embiid.
Speaker 5: I think Joel Ebiid will also embrace the Bobie. I
Speaker 5: think he would love to see him out there because
Speaker 5: he's just such a fun guy, Boba, and he's already
Speaker 5: having a great time dancing and living it up in
Speaker 5: the bubble, So I think he's got I don't think
Speaker 5: anyone could possibly dislike him. And I think he's going
Speaker 5: to have the Bigges cheer squad down there.
Speaker 4: It's right.
Speaker 3: Another guy who's in the news a little bit lately.
Speaker 3: I think Jamal Crawford. You know, he's a guy that
Speaker 3: NBA players who have always loved to watch. He had
Speaker 3: been out of the league this season and now he's
Speaker 3: making a return. He's just got a highlight ready game.
Speaker 3: You know, players I'm sure will be excited to see
Speaker 3: Jamal Crawford back in the NBA. And then if he,
Speaker 3: you know, crosses somebody up goes behind his back, gets
Speaker 3: an there Jamal Crawford like highlight. People will be going crazy.
Speaker 3: This is what we were talking about. This is why
Speaker 3: you needed to have Jamal Crawford back. Not to mention,
Speaker 3: he said he never practiced his dribbling in his entire
Speaker 3: life and just came out naturally. So I'm guessing a
Speaker 3: year off isn't gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a bunch of a bunch of ones
Speaker 2: because it's hard to come up with an answer for that.
Speaker 2: You're right, Jamal Crawford, great one. So I came up
Speaker 2: with a bunch of little ones to add up to
Speaker 2: think it was good enough. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: When you don't have a good answer on beach stepping,
Speaker 2: you just get a bunch of little ones to think
Speaker 2: that it's good enough. Ben Simmons, I think he's going
Speaker 2: to be cheered on by Orlando's Michael Carter Williams because
Speaker 2: Michael Carter Williams gonna look at that guy and say,
Speaker 2: I don't want to shoot threes like him. I want
Speaker 2: to be as good as him, so he's gonna come
Speaker 2: cheer on Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is his idol. I
Speaker 2: think Miami's Jimmy Butler is going to cheer on Indiana's TJ.
Speaker 2: Warren sarcastically because they hate each other.
Speaker 5: YEA, still does that carry it to the bubble?
Speaker 1: You think?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would think so the way Jimmy Butler
Speaker 2: was despised that guy, and they did get their March
Speaker 2: twentieth game that they were supposed to get the rematch, right, so,
Speaker 2: oh god, yeah, Jimmy doesn't like him. Jannis will be
Speaker 2: at Lakers games to cheer on brother Costa for sure,
Speaker 2: and Coasta might play with the injuries that are happening there.
Speaker 2: And speaking of brothers, I think Robin Lopez of the
Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks might go up into the stands while his
Speaker 2: brother Brook is playing on the same team, because Robin's
Speaker 2: just that kind of guy and be like, I didn't
Speaker 2: know the rules. I'm just gonna go up there and
Speaker 2: cheer mud. Why not?
Speaker 1: Those are good? Back to like you were talking about
Speaker 1: maybe the Sixers pulling out the shake shake for shake, Milton,
Speaker 1: I like that I was thinking in thinking of this
Speaker 1: this answer to this question. Will we see some of
Speaker 1: the activities that the players have been doing in the
Speaker 1: bubble over the last week or so turn into celebrations,
Speaker 1: So like, will there be like a shotgunning beers celebration?
Speaker 1: Will there be a like will there be a fishing celebration?
Speaker 1: You know, like we're holding up your catch? Could be
Speaker 1: a ping pong sort of celebration, right, Like, there's some
Speaker 1: possibilities there. They get creative with some of these activities
Speaker 1: they're doing.
Speaker 2: I think you get a corn hole in there, corn hole, right,
Speaker 2: throw it up.
Speaker 1: I hope they do. I hope they do. All right,
Speaker 1: next one here? What up? No dunks? My friends and
Speaker 1: I just had a very heated discussion about Miami Heat
Speaker 1: team with Wade, Bosh and Braun. We were arguing about
Speaker 1: whether this team was a disappointment or not. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of hype surrounding this team. Heck Lebron himself
Speaker 1: predicted they would win up to eight titles, but as
Speaker 1: we know, they only won two titles and the second
Speaker 1: one was saved by a lucky Ray Allen three. So
Speaker 1: two questions. One, was this Heat squad the Wade Bosh
Speaker 1: Broun Heat a disappointment? And are there any other NBA
Speaker 1: teams that failed to live up to their hype? Thanks
Speaker 1: for all the amazing content, Keep up with great work.
Speaker 1: That's from Tyler in Connecticut to ask when do you
Speaker 1: get us started? There are two questions there, which one
Speaker 1: you want to tackle first?
Speaker 2: Are they a disappointment? When looking I say, no chance.
Speaker 2: They won two championships in four years plus two other
Speaker 2: finals appearances. That's not a disappointment. No, no, no. Lebron
Speaker 2: won two of his championships there. And I don't start
Speaker 2: going the lucky route with the lucky Rayale and three
Speaker 2: because I mean, you just if that's a slippery slope,
Speaker 2: my man, you're not gonna win a third.
Speaker 3: Man who hit the three from the Yeah, it's like
Speaker 3: one of the greatest three point shooters ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and something he practiced that doesn't matter anyway. Go
Speaker 2: earlier in the series, Tony Parker hit a luckier shot
Speaker 2: to win Game one when he sort of stumbled, kept
Speaker 2: his dribble, fell down and hit that game winner. When
Speaker 2: we all I remember us talking about that after it.
Speaker 2: We were like this could go down as an incredible
Speaker 2: game winner in NBA Finals, And now everybody forgets it.
Speaker 2: Because of the race shot. But it's a slippery slope. Man.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets quote unquote lucky. That's not even lucky. Why
Speaker 2: do I even why do I bring that word up again?
Speaker 2: The amount of time they stayed together, you can be
Speaker 2: disappointed by that. I do think that's shocking that they
Speaker 2: only stayed four times, or stay for four years, I
Speaker 2: should say, after you know, the whole Grand introduction where
Speaker 2: they won two, three, four, five, six seven. So whoever's
Speaker 2: arguing with you Tyler that it was a disappointment, come on, man,
Speaker 2: But I think go ahead.
Speaker 5: I think Tyler is actually from Boston. I think he's
Speaker 5: a Bean town boy. I think we've heard from him before,
Speaker 5: so that's why he's playing it down now. Look, I
Speaker 5: think it depends on what your expectations were. You know,
Speaker 5: four trips to the finals is two championships enough? Of course,
Speaker 5: I think it is. But I think if you were
Speaker 5: to look at that Mavericks loss in twenty eleven, I
Speaker 5: think that's the one that sort of things went wrong
Speaker 5: because they were up to one in that series and
Speaker 5: Lebron had a very very bad game. I think it
Speaker 5: was Game four and the MAVs came back in. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he had eight points in that game, So I think
Speaker 5: if you look at it in the hole, you could say,
Speaker 5: you know, they've sort of left one on the table.
Speaker 5: Certainly there to Dallas, but that one that they lost
Speaker 5: to San Antonio, the Spurs were virtually unbeatable in that finals.
Speaker 5: They were just a completely different unit. So I think
Speaker 5: I think overall, you know, champions any franchise would take
Speaker 5: two out of four if they could get there that
Speaker 5: many times. But you know, again, I think there's a
Speaker 5: case to be made there that they blew it against
Speaker 5: the Mavericks Trail.
Speaker 1: What do you think are the Heat the Heatles as
Speaker 1: we call them, a disappointment?
Speaker 4: Definitely not.
Speaker 3: You know, the two championships is great, but I think
Speaker 3: it just goes to show you how hard it is
Speaker 3: to win a lot of championships, especially in a row.
Speaker 3: You could look at the Heat and say they've got
Speaker 3: three of the best players in the league, they should
Speaker 3: win the championship every year, but that just doesn't how
Speaker 3: it happens. You know, they also strung together a twenty
Speaker 3: seven game winning streak that kind of goes unremembered as
Speaker 3: since it's a regular season thing, but that was a
Speaker 3: major moment in the league. It's similar to Kevin Grant
Speaker 3: and Steph Curry on the Warriors. You know, they get together,
Speaker 3: you assume they're gonna win every championship, but they had.
Speaker 4: Two seasons where they didn't even win sixty games.
Speaker 3: It's just hard to keep players healthy when they're playing
Speaker 3: one hundred games during a season. It's hard to keep
Speaker 3: everybody motivated. It's hard to keep everybody on the same page.
Speaker 3: And we've seen that time and time again. You know,
Speaker 3: the Lakers fell apart in their early two thousands because
Speaker 3: they eventually had be the same. You know, Lebron eventually
Speaker 3: wanted to go back to Cleveland, Katie, Steph and the
Speaker 3: Warriors eventually split up.
Speaker 4: It's just hard to spring together a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: titles together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been talking about this, or not talking about it,
Speaker 1: maybe ourselves, but I've been listening to a lot of
Speaker 1: podcasts talk about this team over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys have as well, because it was the
Speaker 1: ten year anniversary of Lebron's decision going down there, and
Speaker 1: there was a lot of retrospective columns and podcasts again
Speaker 1: talking about it. Chris bosh I know, talking about he's
Speaker 1: even started his own sort of thing, substack thing, the
Speaker 1: last Chip, I believe it's called. I think the only
Speaker 1: reason they get into trouble here as a disappointment is
Speaker 1: because of the not the decision from Lebron, which obviously
Speaker 1: just got ridiculed like crazy at the time and even
Speaker 1: to this day going on TV and saying in peace
Speaker 1: out Cleveland. But it is that celebration rally where they
Speaker 1: say they're gonna win six seven A titles. So you
Speaker 1: say that and then you come up obviously drastically short
Speaker 1: of that, Well maybe that is a disappointment. Like you
Speaker 1: were saying, tasks, they only even stick the game for
Speaker 1: four years, for crying out out, they don't have even
Speaker 1: a chance to even get to six seven or eight.
Speaker 1: So if you just remove that completely, if that never happened,
Speaker 1: then hands down, they're like, obviously, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the better teams of all time, maybe even with the
Speaker 1: talent they had, going back to back super difficult to
Speaker 1: do and going to four straight finals, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: just as difficult to do, but they do that, so
Speaker 1: you gotta knock them a little bit. That's that's I
Speaker 1: think where this argument probably between Tyler and his friends
Speaker 1: is coming up. They said this, and they didn't even
Speaker 1: come close to it, okay, but still obviously a great team.
Speaker 2: They brought it upon themselves, no doubt, no doubt with
Speaker 2: that open. I think in twenty years, when we look
Speaker 2: back at that that grand opening, when they came together
Speaker 2: that rally, I think everyone's gonna gonna say, you know what,
Speaker 2: Lebron said, they were gonna win twenty five championship. It's
Speaker 2: just gonna get bigger then, and bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2: Because it was not five, not six, not seven already
Speaker 2: it's up to eight. So it's not gonna stop. Lebron
Speaker 2: said he's gonna win one every year.
Speaker 1: What did what did he actually stop at seven?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think it was seven.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, you're right, it's already going up.
Speaker 2: It's ticking up, you're right, okay, yeah. But it's crazy
Speaker 2: to think, like two of his three championships we're in
Speaker 2: there those four years and it's a disappointment, like most
Speaker 2: of his championships were in that running. He's almost the
Speaker 2: best player of all time, but it's a disappointment. It's
Speaker 2: kind of weird. All right, next week, hey nd with
Speaker 2: the NBA about to restart in the Disney bubble and
Speaker 2: with your recent Disney Squad episode, I was wondering who
Speaker 2: you think had a great Wookie season. Let me explain.
Speaker 2: A Wookie season is a season where a rookie is
Speaker 2: just an absolute beast. In my mind, he's maybe not
Speaker 2: that offensively gifted, but defensively he's likely underrated thanks Force Choke,
Speaker 2: dark Side Evaders eyes. That's from Kyle Lee. Why don't
Speaker 2: you get it started?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, hold on before Lee answers JD, what is
Speaker 1: he talking about here? Why is a Wookie maybe not
Speaker 1: offensively gifted, but it's great defensively.
Speaker 6: They're tall, They're really really tall, I guess, and they
Speaker 6: can just hang out at the hoop and black people
Speaker 6: I guess. Okay, I mean I think a Wookie would
Speaker 6: make a great shooter, but I disagree wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1: So Lee, with that said, who's who do you got
Speaker 1: on your old Wookie team? Well, I'm going with.
Speaker 5: A guy who I think had his best season for
Speaker 5: his career as a rookie. It's a Mecha Oka four
Speaker 5: back in two thousand and four, two thousand and five.
Speaker 5: I mean, he won Rookie of the year when Dwight
Speaker 5: was the first pick in the draft and it was
Speaker 5: considered maybe a Mecha's going to turn out better than
Speaker 5: Dwight Howard. It didn't work out that way. But he
Speaker 5: had like fifteen and ten or fifteen and eleven, i
Speaker 5: should say, with two blocks a game and was just
Speaker 5: a beast, and I thought, man, this guy is really good.
Speaker 5: You knew he didn't have a very finished or polished
Speaker 5: offensive game, but you just thought athletically he was so
Speaker 5: big and strong he would just be catching oops for
Speaker 5: the rest of his career and then blocking shots on
Speaker 5: the other end. And it's funny when you look at
Speaker 5: his stats, they pretty much came down. He had his
Speaker 5: rebound sort of stayed consistent there for a few years,
Speaker 5: but his points just every single season. And of course,
Speaker 5: you know he did come back a couple of times,
Speaker 5: or he made a couple of attempts to get back,
Speaker 5: but really kind of a disappointing career when you consider
Speaker 5: that first season and just how impactfully.
Speaker 1: Was anybody else.
Speaker 3: Wookie Matisse Fibel is having one of those seasons right now.
Speaker 3: You know, he came into the league and he's instantly
Speaker 3: one of the best guys on the ball and off
Speaker 3: the ball, those crazy long arms. You have him out
Speaker 3: there with Ben Simmons and it looks like kind of
Speaker 3: two of the same guy who are able to do
Speaker 3: the same sort of things defensively, flying all over the court,
Speaker 3: protecting the rim, getting in passing lanes.
Speaker 4: He's been impressive.
Speaker 3: Another seventy six er way back when Neurlins Noel was
Speaker 3: the only player in the league to finish top ten
Speaker 3: in blocks and steels, and he did it as a rookie.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately now we just know him for inventing the
Speaker 3: pocket dog basically.
Speaker 2: Tasting when to add and Neurlans Zoel once had a
Speaker 2: hoop in his living room, like he put it up
Speaker 2: against the wall that was not ten feet for some
Speaker 2: weird reason. It's like a full hoop. It was like
Speaker 2: nine to six. He should be famous for that. Matist
Speaker 2: Stipele is a great one because he's he's fresh off
Speaker 2: the brain, because he's doing great work down in the bubble.
Speaker 2: See his videos. That guy is editing his own videos
Speaker 2: down There're awesome. Yeah, and he's he's turning out to
Speaker 2: be a better shooter than people expect. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if he's straight Wookie category. But I think I
Speaker 2: think like a guy like like struggles offensively but is
Speaker 2: doing good defensively, as Jared Culver of the Wolves going
Speaker 2: deep here and Jackson Hayes probably of the uh the Pelicans,
Speaker 2: the big guy, and maybe that's Wookie type hair. I
Speaker 2: mean he lets it fly bigtime. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know what a Wookie hair is. I'm just making
Speaker 2: things up now.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I get I get Wookie rhymes
Speaker 1: with rookie, hence the question yeah to me, JD again,
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. You're the expert here with
Speaker 1: Star Wars. But like I think wookie, You're right, I
Speaker 1: think of probably a tall guy, a big guy. But
Speaker 1: I also think of like a sidekick, a co pilot, right.
Speaker 1: I think it's someone that's lovable, it's got a big heart.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, the most famous Wookie we know, Chewbacca,
Speaker 6: is definitely a sidekick. But there are thousands millions of
Speaker 6: Wookies out there. There's got to be some later leaders
Speaker 6: in the bunch, right, I mean, right, right, right, I'm
Speaker 6: talking specifically about Chewbacca.
Speaker 1: Do we know other Wookies in the Star Wars canon?
Speaker 6: I mean, uh, you know I don't personally, Well, so
Speaker 6: you don't. Well, you know, I'm I'm our resident nerd,
Speaker 6: but I'm not that much of a nerd. Let's be honest.
Speaker 6: I mean, I got blasted last time I talked Star
Speaker 6: Wars because I referred to Luke as the chosen One. Well,
Speaker 6: he's not the chosen one. Apparently Darth Vader or Anakin
Speaker 6: Skywalker is the chosen one. So I'm gonna get lots
Speaker 6: of people pointing out famous wookies who are leaders.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 6: So yeah, don't worry, You're not gonna get it. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna get it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to bring that upon JD.
Speaker 3: I feel like Chewbacca was even he was like Wicked
Speaker 3: with the.
Speaker 4: Crossbow, wasn't he?
Speaker 6: Absolutely That's what I mean, A good shooter.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, to explain this one, Why does JaVale McGhee have
Speaker 2: one of his nicknames listed as Big Daddy Wookie?
Speaker 1: Oh didn't know that one.
Speaker 6: I didn't know that either.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think many people do. But Basketball Reference
Speaker 2: has you know, he's got the standard Pierre ye something
Speaker 2: else in there? The big secret what Big Daddy Wookie
Speaker 2: and the Great Adventure just came out of nowhere, big
Speaker 2: Daddy Wookie.
Speaker 1: All right, well, I'm sure a listener right now screaming
Speaker 1: at their podcast while they're walking their dog.
Speaker 6: What about episode five of Clone Wars season six, Man's.
Speaker 5: Turning on the Wars fans?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I saw, I did see him getting that
Speaker 1: blowback for his for his initial Star Wars comment there
Speaker 1: about whatever Anakin?
Speaker 6: Who'd you say, wasn't Anakin's a chosen one? But you
Speaker 6: know not? To me, Luke Skywalker, he's the chosen He
Speaker 6: brought balance to the forest.
Speaker 1: Come on, you know what, You're the chosen one. Thank
Speaker 1: you to me and us here on this podcast. All right,
Speaker 1: next one here, Hey, dunk boys, I'm the biggest Survivor
Speaker 1: fan I know. Listen to this. I've watched every season
Speaker 1: multiple times. Wow, but I always kept this is amazing.
Speaker 1: I always kept Survivor Pearl Islands unwatched because the idea
Speaker 1: of having no new Survivor in the back pocket for
Speaker 1: a rainy day felt like such a bummer. This guy
Speaker 1: watched every single season a Survivor multiple times, but somehow decided,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna watch them all because
Speaker 1: I need to have one just in case, you know,
Speaker 1: break in case of emergency, well covid to continue. The
Speaker 1: email is the Ultimate Rainy Day and I finally watched it,
Speaker 1: and to my surprise, Johnny Fairplay is not the bumbling
Speaker 1: idiot joke of a player that Survivor history seems to
Speaker 1: paint him as he's strategically and against all odds, socially adept,
Speaker 1: and he came within Weird o' lil's last vote from
Speaker 1: making the finals and potentially winning. Anyway, this made me
Speaker 1: think about NBA comparisons that fit this Fairplay situation. What
Speaker 1: present day player do you think will be historically misremembered
Speaker 1: for whatever reason? Learn lots, rub your thighs sausage. That's
Speaker 1: from Jack Coffee. Now again, Lee, before we go to
Speaker 1: you for your answer to the actual NBA question, maybe
Speaker 1: we'll go to JD or whatever one of you Johnny
Speaker 1: Fairplay just for the person listening to this has no
Speaker 1: idea what the hell Jack Coffee is talking about? Who
Speaker 1: wants to explain very quickly who Johnny Fairplay is in
Speaker 1: the Survivor canon of things.
Speaker 6: He's the biggest heel in Survivor of history. Probably he
Speaker 6: famous for what Probes calls the biggest lie in the
Speaker 6: history of Survivor. I think where he had during the
Speaker 6: loved Ones visit, he had his friend come on and
Speaker 6: lie that his grandmother had passed away while Johnny was
Speaker 6: playing the game, so fake tears were had. The entire
Speaker 6: tribe was was devastated for him, and then you cut
Speaker 6: cut immediately to his confessions like my grandmother is watching
Speaker 6: Jerry Springer and somewhere right right now. So he lied
Speaker 6: about his grandmother dying to get a sympathy card, which
Speaker 6: is a despicable move. But as as is pointed out,
Speaker 6: he made it to almost the end because of that.
Speaker 6: So you know he's he's a professional wrestler now.
Speaker 1: I read, Yeah, And that was a thing. Like his
Speaker 1: bit was very like he was like a like a manager,
Speaker 1: like a heel wrestling manager. Really like he leaned into
Speaker 1: that right from the get go, and he was pretty
Speaker 1: damn good television.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 1: As much as you hated him as a villain, he
Speaker 1: was he was something else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then he leaned into it even more.
Speaker 3: I feel like after that Survivor season was over, like
Speaker 3: JDS saying, he's a professional wrestler now, and like every
Speaker 3: appearance he had he was trying to be more and
Speaker 3: more despicable, and he had even been on his Survivor season,
Speaker 3: so that's probably why people misremember him a little bit.
Speaker 3: And I might be misremembering things, but when I think
Speaker 3: back to that moment where his his buddy comes out
Speaker 3: and they're talking about it, what a ridiculous lie that
Speaker 3: this even worked, because he comes out and Johnny Paarripleay's like,
Speaker 3: how's grandma, and his buddy just goes, She's dead, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how you're breaking it to a family member.
Speaker 1: She's dead, dude. He had practiced that line for a week, So, Okay,
Speaker 1: she's dead, dude. No, she's dead, dude. Drying it in
Speaker 1: the mirror, Yeah she's dead. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: Johnny fair play. That's amazing. By the way, Survivor Pearl
Speaker 1: Allen's one of the best Survivor seasons. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: where we get Rupert, right, SANDRAU. So there's there's some
Speaker 1: legends in that season, which was early on. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Lee present day player you think will be historically misremembered
Speaker 1: for whatever reason you got.
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's it has to be a polarizing
Speaker 5: play as someone who really does stoke the emotions of
Speaker 5: everybody whenever they talk about him. And that's why I'm
Speaker 5: going with James Harden. Because James Harden's a great player.
Speaker 5: He's a Hall of Famer, He's an absolute lock for that.
Speaker 5: But I think with the playoff, without having a championship
Speaker 5: or even being to the finals, I think people are
Speaker 5: going to sort of point at things and say, well, look,
Speaker 5: he was great in the regular season, but he could
Speaker 5: never deliver in the playoffs, you know, like he was
Speaker 5: a three time runner up MVP, a one time MVP,
Speaker 5: but in the playoffs things always went wrong for him.
Speaker 5: He couldn't play with superstars, he had an ugly way
Speaker 5: of drawing contact and shooting too many free throws. And
Speaker 5: I think that's going to detract away from the fact
Speaker 5: what he has achieved over these last seven eight years
Speaker 5: here in Houston. He's been an incredibly consistent, reliable player
Speaker 5: for the Rockets, always had them in the playoffs, but
Speaker 5: he hasn't been able to sort of find that ultimate success.
Speaker 5: And I think this is what we talk about a
Speaker 5: lot of times with the player that they need that
Speaker 5: championship almost to sort of like just kill off all
Speaker 5: that took because it happened with drk Novitski, I think
Speaker 5: a lot as well. You know, got that championship and
Speaker 5: he got that sort of now you can't ever say Dirk,
Speaker 5: you know, choke in the playoffs when he was on
Speaker 5: when they lost to the We Believe Warriors, like all
Speaker 5: that stuff kind of gets forgotten because he eventually got there.
Speaker 5: And I think if James Harden doesn't eventually get there,
Speaker 5: that's sort of going to I think how he's going
Speaker 5: to be remembered. It's going to be a mix of
Speaker 5: like great player, but only in the regular season, an
Speaker 5: ugly way of scoring. You know, people just didn't People
Speaker 5: either loved him or hated him. There's not that sort
Speaker 5: of in between.
Speaker 1: I think with him, well, this is the perfect answer
Speaker 1: because you just proved your own point. You misremember James
Speaker 1: Harden's career already. He made the finals. He was in
Speaker 1: the finals.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, but so there you go. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, okay, that's true.
Speaker 2: He was there.
Speaker 5: He didn't have a good finals.
Speaker 1: But I think what I'm talking about when he's with
Speaker 1: the Thunder.
Speaker 5: And yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, you sort of I'm talking
Speaker 5: pretty much his Rocket's career is what he's going to
Speaker 5: be remembered for. People are going to try to forget
Speaker 5: the thunder stuff there, But you know, I mean, and
Speaker 5: I am someone who finds him frustrating to watch, but
Speaker 5: I always try to respectfully show that he is incredible.
Speaker 5: How we can go out there and get forty or
Speaker 5: fifty points pretty much whenever he wants. It's just the
Speaker 5: way that he goes about it is not always I
Speaker 5: catching okay tass, anyone coming to mind?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm gonna jump around. I think tim ifay
Speaker 2: Mosgov will be remembered as the guy dunked on by Blake,
Speaker 2: but also forgetting a monster contract during the Capspike twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: one of those Yeah, there's a lot of those guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah on Mahimi, But but I think he'll be remembering that.
Speaker 2: Miami's Kelly Olinok will be remembered for yank and Kevin
Speaker 2: Love shoulder out of his socket in the twenty fifteen
Speaker 2: playoffs when Lebron couldn't win a championship because of timifay Mosgov,
Speaker 2: Yank initial and Kyrie Gotterer. But I killed, Actually, timofay
Speaker 2: Mosgov should thank Kelly Olinok for yanking Kevin loved shoulder
Speaker 2: because then timofay mosgov went on to star in the finals.
Speaker 2: He was their second best player in those finals. He
Speaker 2: was putting like, what do you average like twenty something
Speaker 2: in those in those finals in twenty fifteen, and then
Speaker 2: he got paid the year later.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the agent twenty.
Speaker 5: I don't think he averaged twenty, but I think he
Speaker 5: hit twenty maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe has some big games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just letting him a roll and a quick one.
Speaker 2: I think Enniscancer will be remembered for a guy as
Speaker 2: a guy who talked a lot. That's it. But I
Speaker 2: like Ednis cancer. He's fighting the good fight, but he
Speaker 2: hasn't stopped talkings for entire career.
Speaker 1: Trey, who you got?
Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned Tim and fay Mosgoff because mine
Speaker 3: is Blake Griffin. He was like the best thing to
Speaker 3: watch in the league for his his sort of rookie year.
Speaker 3: Remember he missed his first year with the kneecap problem,
Speaker 3: and then he was instantly twenty two and twelve Duncan
Speaker 3: on guys like mosgoth it seemed like a highlight every night.
Speaker 3: I would even argue that the Kawhi Leonard Paul George
Speaker 3: era of the Clippers isn't possible with Blake Griffin going
Speaker 3: to the Clippers, right, He put him on the map.
Speaker 3: He made the team not a joke anymore. He made
Speaker 3: it a place that Chris Paul would actually accept a
Speaker 3: trade to play with the Clippers, and that turned the
Speaker 3: franchise around the not a joke for the first time
Speaker 3: in franchise history. And it's all because they won that
Speaker 3: lottery and got to draft Blake Griffin.
Speaker 1: Number one good answers I'll go with. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: present day player Rudy Gobert is going to be a
Speaker 1: fascinating guy to see how he'll be remembered. What will
Speaker 1: be the first thing people will bring up with Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert twenty years from now? It might be COVID related, honestly,
Speaker 1: And that might be despite having obviously defensive player of
Speaker 1: the years, who knows that he wins a title, who
Speaker 1: all start selections, all MBA and all that. But that
Speaker 1: will probably be at the forefront of the first thing
Speaker 1: you're gonna remember with Rudy, And and the other part
Speaker 1: was like before that, it was like, oh yeah, it
Speaker 1: was that that guy that was upset about not making
Speaker 1: the All Star team and all that. Like he has
Speaker 1: like these unfortunate sort of like dings on his like
Speaker 1: career that people like go to immediately instead of like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that guy was a game changer defensively,
Speaker 1: especially on good teams. But he's gonna he's just gonna
Speaker 1: have that. And we've talked about it before. That's no
Speaker 1: knock on him. If anything, he probably started he actually
Speaker 1: maybe saved lives for crying out out for all we know,
Speaker 1: actually being patient zero and I throw that in air
Speaker 1: quotes and shutting down the league and obviously people taking
Speaker 1: things a little more seriously with the virus.
Speaker 2: So Rudy Gobert is my answer, all right, next email, hey,
Speaker 2: pulling up from three instead. I was lucky enough to
Speaker 2: find someone new during this pandemic. It was a strange
Speaker 2: experience early on in the relationship with all that's been
Speaker 2: going on in the country, social distancing and the inability
Speaker 2: to go on traditional dates. That made us be creative
Speaker 2: about seeing each other, but we made it work. I'm
Speaker 2: happy and proud to say she's an amazing person and
Speaker 2: for the sake of basketball talk, she's been a hell
Speaker 2: of a teammate thus far in my life. But I
Speaker 2: would be remiss if I didn't mention that during this time,
Speaker 2: a couple of exes have reached out to me in
Speaker 2: hopes of rekindling old flames.
Speaker 1: Ooh, this guy.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's out of boredom or their new team isn't
Speaker 2: doing all that well. I love who I'm with and
Speaker 2: I'm not about that. Double life got me thinking which
Speaker 2: NBA player had a decent or memorable second run with
Speaker 2: a former team? Does sound like this guy is is
Speaker 2: thinking about Rick. I was too broke to buy tickets
Speaker 2: when you guys came to Chicago, but an email read
Speaker 2: on beach stepping would make up for that. Well, here
Speaker 2: you go, Eddie, Love you guys. Keep up the great work,
Speaker 2: Eddie and Skokey Illinois. What do you got, Gokey?
Speaker 1: Where's Skokey? T You're near Skokey right now.
Speaker 3: I'm not too near Skrokey. It's north of Chicago, home
Speaker 3: of abdul Nader. Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I gotta
Speaker 3: get I gotta take my hat off to Eddie. It
Speaker 3: sounds like the man is a casanova when it comes
Speaker 3: to texting. Not only did he get a partner during
Speaker 3: the pandemic. He's had people reaching out to him saying,
Speaker 3: can we partner up again? The guy just mails me
Speaker 3: fire with emojis.
Speaker 1: Yeah's But see, that is sometimes the issue with some
Speaker 1: people out there, men and women. Right, some people are
Speaker 1: like their money when it comes to just communication through
Speaker 1: texting or you know, any sort of like dating app
Speaker 1: or whatever. Instagram comments like whatever, you know, and then
Speaker 1: and then maybe they don't have it in person, right,
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to bring it in person at
Speaker 1: some point with these people. But look, yeah, he's knocking
Speaker 1: it out of the park when it comes to doing
Speaker 1: this type of community.
Speaker 2: I assume he was facetiming big time.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe, yeah, maybe maybe how you do.
Speaker 2: Facet tamming was so hot in March and April and
Speaker 2: then it sort of died down when people are like, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go back to normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Lee, what do you you got an answer
Speaker 1: for that?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to take two names off the table
Speaker 5: because they kind of stand out, And that's Lebron going
Speaker 5: back to Cleveland, obviously he returned, and Steve Nash going
Speaker 5: back to Phoenix. He had a pretty good return there,
Speaker 5: picking up a couple song.
Speaker 1: I dug a.
Speaker 5: Little deeper for this question for a guy sort of
Speaker 5: later in his career, and I think it's Jason Kidd
Speaker 5: when he returned to the Dallas Mavericks, because obviously that's
Speaker 5: the team he was drafted by, started out there, he
Speaker 5: played two or three seasons there and Dallas things didn't
Speaker 5: really work out, and then when he came back, he
Speaker 5: was certainly not the same player he was when he left,
Speaker 5: but he had changed his game. Remember he's basically just
Speaker 5: shooting threes for the Mavericks, and he was a very
Speaker 5: important part of them winning the championship. So he actually
Speaker 5: came back and was more than just a sort of token, like,
Speaker 5: you know, this is the end of your career, come
Speaker 5: back to the team where it all started. He went on,
Speaker 5: came back, was a key part of a team that
Speaker 5: won the championship, and then he moved on again. So
Speaker 5: I think he was one of the ones who had
Speaker 5: probably the most most successful return that wasn't someone like
Speaker 5: a Lebron or Nash who was still in their prime years.
Speaker 1: It's a good answer, family few good answer. Good answer
Speaker 1: was throwing on the bar. Throw it on the board.
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, Jason Kid as well.
Speaker 4: I was surprised.
Speaker 3: I had definitely forgotten that he was an All Star again.
Speaker 3: When he came back to the Mavericks the season before
Speaker 3: they won a championship. You know, he was ten points
Speaker 3: a game, no big deal, but nine assists. That's easy
Speaker 3: stuff for Jason Kidd, just adding to the resume.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about current day player then? Who could pull
Speaker 1: off a Jason Kidd? What about Dwight Howard with the Lakers.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you forget that that did not go
Speaker 1: well the first time Toys with the Lake. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just got laughed out of the franchise, basic leader
Speaker 1: of the city. Now he's back somewhat of an instrumental part,
Speaker 1: has played really well, sort of rehabilitated his image to
Speaker 1: some extent. And if they went on to win a title,
Speaker 1: bubble or not, and he was playing well and was involved,
Speaker 1: I think he'd be like similar to Kid right, obviously
Speaker 1: being a Hall of Famer, but just having much more
Speaker 1: success in his second round with the same team. That's
Speaker 1: my answer. Dwight Hour.
Speaker 2: I went the other route. He also Eddie also asked
Speaker 2: a memorable second run with the former team. I'll go
Speaker 2: with Hidok Turgulho going back to Orlando after signing that
Speaker 2: monster deal with Toronto, after going to the finals with
Speaker 2: Dwight Howard. Toronto said this is not good. Trade into Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Phoenix after half a season said this is not good.
Speaker 2: And Orlando said, well, you know, he was good for us,
Speaker 2: We'll take him back. And he was way worse and
Speaker 2: he was making way more money than he was when
Speaker 2: he took him to the finals or played along with Dwight.
Speaker 2: Was there sort of their point guard that playoffs. So
Speaker 2: that was memorable in a very very bad way. You know,
Speaker 2: he'd a peaked and then he valied pretty quick at
Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett. I it was a nice moment or nice
Speaker 2: times when he went back to Minnesota at the end
Speaker 2: of his career there for a couple of years and
Speaker 2: that super fan with the no shirt, whoever that guy
Speaker 2: was in Minnesota, Jigly boy, Yeah, Jigly that was fun.
Speaker 1: I'll u just because it'll be the second time he's
Speaker 1: been mentioned on this podcast, which is weird. Tim Hardaway
Speaker 1: Junior for a lesser known guy going back to the Knicks,
Speaker 1: I mean he got paid and usually had a pretty
Speaker 1: good year with him when he went back in terms
Speaker 1: of scoring at least, I mean, that's really what he's
Speaker 1: going to give you. But started a rookie with the Knicks.
Speaker 1: I think he made an All rookie team, was fine.
Speaker 1: Then goes to the Hawks and had a really bad year,
Speaker 1: and then had a bounce back year, and then again
Speaker 1: got signed by the Knicks. Eventually got traded and all that.
Speaker 1: But he played well when he was there for a
Speaker 1: lowly Knicks team. And you know, that's why I started
Speaker 1: to fall in love with the idea of Tim Harday
Speaker 1: Junior could go for fifty in one game, and he floirated.
Speaker 5: He floated a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Oh, there was a lot of tweets coming at me
Speaker 1: some first halfs where Tim Hardaway had, you know, twenty
Speaker 1: eight or thirty or whatever. He always would chill out
Speaker 1: as the game went on. But yeah, it's a little
Speaker 1: bounce back. Anyone else, any other answers right here?
Speaker 2: Let me drop hold on, let me drop in. Tim
Speaker 2: I fan Moscov didn't average anywhere close to twenty points
Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals in twenty fifteen, but he had
Speaker 2: a twenty eight pointer, seventeen point or sixteen point or
Speaker 2: seventeen pointer and then David Blatt decided one game, you
Speaker 2: know what, this isn't working. Let's get him out of here.
Speaker 2: Let's get him out of here. So he didn't start
Speaker 2: and he had a zero point game that killed out.
Speaker 2: But he averaged about fourteen in that finals.
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Speaker 3: seeing all these bubble life videos of players fishing. Every
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Speaker 1: I just can't believe how much fishing content I'm into too.
Speaker 1: I'm sort of intrigued by it all. So that's a
Speaker 1: good one. Lee, Are you a fisherman, you like a
Speaker 1: cast in your reel.
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Speaker 5: a few weeks ago. Yeah, caughte nothing and it was
Speaker 5: the same, like it was just laded. You start with
Speaker 5: fish and we couldn't get anything. My eight year old
Speaker 5: got a nibble and he yanked too quickly he put
Speaker 5: it in and he didn't get it. And kids, you know,
Speaker 5: if you're going fishing with a kid, if you don't
Speaker 5: get a bite within thirty seconds, La, what the hell
Speaker 5: is this? This is boring as anything, you know, So
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Speaker 5: I don't know you can't get We were usually he
Speaker 5: had little hot dog like little pieces of hot dog.
Speaker 5: He said, this is a vegan finish, but that was
Speaker 5: the thing. He cast out a couple more times, Sebastian,
Speaker 5: and they just kept taking the bait and not coming
Speaker 5: in and he was not happy, not happy at all.
Speaker 5: So yeah, but it's funny though talking about formula one
Speaker 5: because I used to really follow it back in the
Speaker 5: day when I lived in England, because it's great in Europe.
Speaker 5: It's such a huge event in Europe, and in North
Speaker 5: America it's still kind of picking up. And I remember
Speaker 5: the nineteen ninety nine season was Michael Schumacher, I think
Speaker 5: it might have been his first season at Ferrari, and
Speaker 5: he was obviously their number one driver, their favorite, and
Speaker 5: you know, they have blatant like you're our number one,
Speaker 5: you're our number two, and they don't want the number
Speaker 5: two guy taking over. But the number two Ferrari was
Speaker 5: Eddie Irvine. And what happened was Michael Schumacher broke his
Speaker 5: leg halfway through the season, and Eddie Irvine obviously came
Speaker 5: their number one driver and he lost the driver's championship
Speaker 5: to Mika Hackenham by like two points. But it was
Speaker 5: a really exciting race to the end there because the
Speaker 5: Ferrari obviously would have loved to win, but it wasn't
Speaker 5: there guy winning. So there was this weird sort of
Speaker 5: like Eddie's like, I'm trying to win this thing, and
Speaker 5: Ferrari's like it's not good if Schumacher doesn't win, even
Speaker 5: if he's broken his leg, you know, like and he
Speaker 5: can't race, So there was the storyline of like Eddie
Speaker 5: going basically against Ferrari even though Ferrari were kind of
Speaker 5: pulling for him because that no one else and he
Speaker 5: nearly did it in the end.
Speaker 1: But well, that's exactly what this email is all about.
Speaker 1: It there is so much time, yeah, politics and drama
Speaker 1: within this racing world and like, oh yeah, they're also racing,
Speaker 1: you know, you know Coors.
Speaker 5: And well Schumacher is such a funny one too, because
Speaker 5: in his early days when he was at Benetton, he
Speaker 5: won out a couple of years in a row, and
Speaker 5: then I think it was ninety six when he was
Speaker 5: trying to win in the last race Damon Hill off
Speaker 5: the road to or he tried to and it didn't
Speaker 5: work and a backfight on him. Then Shoemackers just like, nah,
Speaker 5: I didn't do that. But you know these drivers, they're
Speaker 5: incredibly skillful. So for a guy to be driving along
Speaker 5: then just like ram into the other guy and then
Speaker 5: deny it was hilarious. Yeah, it's I want to get
Speaker 5: back into seeing you guys tweeting about it. It's it
Speaker 5: is fun. It's a really you've got to you've really
Speaker 5: got to invest in the whole season, though. I think
Speaker 5: you can't sort of just pick it up late. You
Speaker 5: gotta you've got to sort of see the storylines of
Speaker 5: how it builds up throughout the year.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't speak for Tree. I think he's
Speaker 1: similar to me, Like we really got hooked when we
Speaker 1: watched the actual reality show that they need surrounding the
Speaker 1: f one season Drive to Survive. It's on Netflix. There's
Speaker 1: two seasons now, Ray Tree, I think, up, yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I mean, you talk about drama like
Speaker 1: it's obviously edited incredibly well and they're giving you all
Speaker 1: the stories, the juicy like oh, this guy's battling this guy,
Speaker 1: this guy's beef with this guy, this guy's going to
Speaker 1: move to this team, and all that. But it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Highly highly recommend Drive to Survive if you haven't watched
Speaker 1: it already. Is it a movie a series? It's a
Speaker 1: serious like a horror series. But you will be I
Speaker 1: think you'll get hooked.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, see that. We used to have a Grand
Speaker 5: Prix in Melbourne too. That was the first one of
Speaker 5: the season and it was one of those in city tracks,
Speaker 5: so they had to block off streets like in a
Speaker 5: couple of weeks leading up to it, and that was
Speaker 5: beautifully flat. But you could tell when it was Grand
Speaker 5: Prix was nearby in Melbourn because everyone was in their
Speaker 5: cars just ripping around the streets.
Speaker 1: Everyone just like everywhere they go.
Speaker 5: And before they closed off those streets around the other part,
Speaker 5: like cops used to get everyone just speeding by because
Speaker 5: the road was so perfectly smooth and everyone's like, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm a Formula One driver, right.
Speaker 1: Right, right, gotta be careful out there. What about you, tak.
Speaker 2: It wasn't Michael Schumacher the highest paid athlete in the
Speaker 2: world for a time.
Speaker 5: Like probably yeah, yeah, when I moved to Ferrari, he
Speaker 5: probably was, yeah.
Speaker 2: Around like I think it was like back then it
Speaker 2: was a lot and what it was like twenty five
Speaker 2: or thirty a year or something like that.
Speaker 1: So, like Lewis Hamilton is at this point now challenging
Speaker 1: a lot of Schumacher's records, right, So.
Speaker 5: I think Hamilton's a six time champion. Chewey was a
Speaker 5: seven time champ.
Speaker 2: Shuey, Sue Jeey. It's great to get some Huey Louie.
Speaker 2: Good to hear Mika hacking in again. Hacking a loop
Speaker 2: over here, Mika kippers off and a loop I I'll
Speaker 2: jump in here. Sticking with sports baseball For me, it's
Speaker 2: you know, I just I just ate it up. But
Speaker 2: I can't stand a labor dispute. So after the ninety
Speaker 2: three season, uh Jays went back to back. I was
Speaker 2: a wee lad. I was enjoying. I was that was
Speaker 2: my sport for sure. But then ninety four it could
Speaker 2: have we could have had a Blue Jays Expos World
Speaker 2: Series if there wasn't a strike, and then I'd had enough.
Speaker 2: I think, well, then the Raptors came to town. So
Speaker 2: things changed for me.
Speaker 1: But you, but you, you're holding on to your love
Speaker 1: of baseball because you're you're always good for like sharing
Speaker 1: a nice baseball tweet. I think you just shared one.
Speaker 1: You're like, uh, what what was that Jay's game that
Speaker 1: clipped you shared? Was it like just a practice basically?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're doing a little inner squad because
Speaker 2: nobody in Toronto. This is their spring training two point
Speaker 2: zero right now, and they're having uh they're having these games,
Speaker 2: you know, within their teams and no fans in the
Speaker 2: stands obviously, and I could you could just hear the
Speaker 2: thwack of the bat. Maybe it's Bobachette's bat, just like
Speaker 2: Dad Dante used to do it. But that thing was loud.
Speaker 2: It was a loud back clip. Yeah, I watched it.
Speaker 2: I watched that clip only because you shared it. I
Speaker 2: was like, holy, that was a sweet crack at the bat.
Speaker 2: It was almost almost a thwack, some would say, as
Speaker 2: Dave Deforre said, and uh, actually I didn't. I'd seen
Speaker 2: this going around Blue Jay's Twitter. But they call the
Speaker 2: big the big sound, the big thwack of the bat
Speaker 2: they call they have a hashtag placata I guess because
Speaker 2: it makes that sound like p l a k A
Speaker 2: t A. If you see that hashtagging around, it's because
Speaker 2: the J's are thwacking. And yeah, that was that was
Speaker 2: bobah yesterday, first pitch of the Inner Squad game. It's
Speaker 2: just so weird. Though they're in Toronto. I don't even
Speaker 2: know if it's clear whether or not they're going to
Speaker 2: stay in Toronto, because that hasn't been cleared, like our
Speaker 2: team's gonna fly there because of the the US Canada thing.
Speaker 2: There's it's just baseball is weird.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: Baseball is very weird.
Speaker 1: My answer is very similar to all what you guys
Speaker 1: are saying. It's just all these other sports. I used
Speaker 1: to be a diehard baseball fan, like task was talking about.
Speaker 1: Same with football, the NFL, you know, Big Bills fan,
Speaker 1: and even hockey when I was much much younger. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it just I still like the sports.
Speaker 1: I'll still watch them occasionally, but I'm not, you know,
Speaker 1: obsessed with them by any means. And that's fine. You know,
Speaker 1: our love is basketball, our true love. Jady, do you
Speaker 1: have a different answer because we're all answering sports here.
Speaker 1: Do you get anything else?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess the most obvious answer is music. For me,
Speaker 6: I was in a bands and stuff from the age
Speaker 6: of fourteen to the age of thirty, and then I
Speaker 6: walked away in age I never looked back.
Speaker 1: Did you just set down your drumsticks like you were
Speaker 1: like Undertaker taking off his gloves and his hat in
Speaker 1: the right.
Speaker 6: I don't understand that reference, but probably, but.
Speaker 1: You said you just walked away. That's why I picture it,
Speaker 1: like you played the perfect set and then like your
Speaker 1: drums exploded and you just sat down your drumsticks.
Speaker 5: All these bosketball movies that we've been doing for film review. Jeddy,
Speaker 5: I think there's one here with you with a music review.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe one of your kids. So someone you
Speaker 5: know picks up that drum, the drum sticks and starts playing,
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, it just pools you back
Speaker 5: in there. You want to teach and pass on the
Speaker 5: wisdom of your experience.
Speaker 6: That could happen. Well, Yeah, the thing is that I
Speaker 6: started when I started playing the drums, it wasn't I
Speaker 6: wasn't a drummer.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 6: I kind of dicked around on the guitar and the
Speaker 6: bass and the drums. But every band that I was
Speaker 6: in needed a drummer so and I was best at that.
Speaker 6: So I was just behind the drums the whole time,
Speaker 6: where you don't have enough control.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you got as have been keeping
Speaker 3: up on your guitar and piano practicing, but it sounds
Speaker 3: like you could use a drummer as well.
Speaker 4: We could.
Speaker 1: I could also learn how to play the guitar first.
Speaker 1: I feel like tastes ahead of me and his keyboard skills.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. I got it a quick. Little
Speaker 2: Mary had a little lamb for you. If you're in.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see you battle. This could be like
Speaker 1: a little dueling piano as we could make it a podcast.
Speaker 1: My buddy Grish has a keyboard too, now, Tess. He's
Speaker 1: putting in the work. He's got nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying, maybe he's ahead of
Speaker 1: you already. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Splet's screen zoom, my buddy Grish dropping some ish.
Speaker 6: I got nothing, all right?
Speaker 2: Moving on any other answers to that one?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was just gonna say, I'm just like
Speaker 1: saddened now because from JD's story, I'm picturing like the
Speaker 1: way you made it sound is like you actually want
Speaker 1: to be the lead guitarist. You want to be, you know,
Speaker 1: the lead singer, and like you're almost just like you're
Speaker 1: forced to play the drums. He's just sitting there for
Speaker 1: sixteen years banging away. That should have been me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, I can't sing, so that's a problem.
Speaker 6: So that was part of.
Speaker 2: The problem, you know. Okay, Yeah, and he got Jackson
Speaker 2: Jackson riding your riding your wings, isn't He's He's.
Speaker 6: Well surpassed me. He's like so much better than I
Speaker 6: am so much better. He's like, he's up there doing
Speaker 6: the pretty shuffles. He's playing Tom Sawyer for Cranout.
Speaker 1: Lad. He's good.
Speaker 6: He's legit good. And I'm not just saying that because
Speaker 6: he's my kid.
Speaker 2: Awesome, all right, next email here Last week as task dropped,
Speaker 2: he had another great pun Yeah I did about his
Speaker 2: Royal Poison Ivy situation going on. Yeah, Royal Ivy a
Speaker 2: journeyman point guard in the league. Great, great name. I
Speaker 2: thought my interactions with him years ago. This guy had
Speaker 2: an interaction with Royal Ivy. I was fortunate enough to
Speaker 2: sit courtside at Jazz games occasionally, and it became my
Speaker 2: game within a game to try and get something from
Speaker 2: a player on the opposing team because of where my
Speaker 2: seats were. Royale was a super nice guy, talked to
Speaker 2: me throughout the game, and I ended up getting his
Speaker 2: shoes after the final buzzer. I was on a date,
Speaker 2: so I felt an obligation to give her one of
Speaker 2: the shoes as a keepsake. I regret this decision twelve
Speaker 2: years later and wonder what she ever did with it,
Speaker 2: and wish I had the other shoe to display.
Speaker 1: To display Royale Ivy shoes weare in the garbage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve years, she's probably not displaying that one shoe
Speaker 2: thinking I wish I had that guy's shoe. I mean
Speaker 2: you can call her. I'm sure you could find her number.
Speaker 2: Do any of you guys have regrets or a keepsake
Speaker 2: that you wish you still had? Thanks for all the
Speaker 2: amazing content and lasses from a long time fan, Wes
Speaker 2: Mangum in Utah. I mean, I'm not I don't really
Speaker 2: care to display shoes, but we had them on our set.
Speaker 2: On the starters. We had a an Andrew Wiggans shoe
Speaker 2: up there. We had some other shoes up there.
Speaker 1: It's wait, who is the big Do we have a
Speaker 1: map bond or shoe him?
Speaker 4: Or no, you did have a map bond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was another one too. It was at brad Miller.
Speaker 3: It was a couple of We had a couple of
Speaker 3: pair of brad Miller's shoes on. So, I mean, if
Speaker 3: you guys are missing those, we get I think.
Speaker 4: I think I got four of them. If we each
Speaker 4: want to go one shoe.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: So as far as the question any regrets or keep
Speaker 2: say you wish you still had? Just thinking about baseball,
Speaker 2: I still wish I had a couple of bats that
Speaker 2: I had when I was a kid. I wish I
Speaker 2: just had my slammer. I had a nice little toothpick
Speaker 2: wood one, just to have a round. It's nice to
Speaker 2: grip and rip occasionally, just to have it if you ever,
Speaker 2: you know there's a burglar around, if you ever need
Speaker 2: to take care of business. It's just it's just good
Speaker 2: to have a bat. They come in handy, metal, wood,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's nice to just fire out, like you know,
Speaker 2: it's nice to I just like swinging the feeling of
Speaker 2: swinging a bat. And I don't really like the whiffle
Speaker 2: ball situation.
Speaker 1: Not as fun like you like some weight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me a thirty ouncer.
Speaker 1: God, I would love to throw around a baseball right now, seriously,
Speaker 1: just you talking about that. I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would love to chuck around a baseball. That's fun too.
Speaker 1: I don't even have a glove anymore. Brutal, brutal, I'll
Speaker 1: go next, Yeah, keepsake, I wish I still had I
Speaker 1: don't know if I really wish I still had it,
Speaker 1: because I don't like to hold onto things all that much.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't like things that just sit
Speaker 1: in boxes or just have no point. Really. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know they have sentimental point or something, but it'd
Speaker 1: probably be a boomerang from Australia. Lee, I did buy
Speaker 1: a boomerang at one point in Australia. I think you're
Speaker 1: everyone does you have to? Yeah, and I definitely did
Speaker 1: when I lived there, and I had it for a while.
Speaker 1: I have you know, years ago. Now, I must have
Speaker 1: been like, why do I have this? Bye? And I
Speaker 1: just threw it. See I just threw it, but I
Speaker 1: threw it incorrectly, so it never came back. But I
Speaker 1: guess I wish I still had it. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I would really do with it. I got this
Speaker 1: big shelf now beside me here, you can't you guys
Speaker 1: can sort of see it. I have almost nothing on it,
Speaker 1: So maybe it would have gone there because we've you know,
Speaker 1: recently moved into our house and this room is the
Speaker 1: last one to get taken care of. But a boomerang,
Speaker 1: I wish I kept it. League Do you know anyone
Speaker 1: that can hook me up with an authentic boomerang? It
Speaker 1: was authentic?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you can actually get one here in Atlanta
Speaker 5: at the Australian bikery cafe. I know you've got a
Speaker 5: couple of therev Yeah. Yeah. He had even had a
Speaker 5: couple of digitides there too one time. So yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Never wanted that because the people that bought those traveling
Speaker 1: around with one of those, no thanks.
Speaker 5: Yeah. It's funny though, you talked about like the boomerang,
Speaker 5: because when I went to Australia one time with I
Speaker 5: only went back to like ten days. It was sixtieth birthday,
Speaker 5: I think it was. So I went up to Wears
Speaker 5: Rock to climb Air's Rock, and I bought this, you know,
Speaker 5: the classic Australian like a kubra hat, and I thought,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna wear that around and it's incredibly comfortable. It's
Speaker 5: really comfortable, and it's really good at keeping you like
Speaker 5: from not getting too hot while having a nice cool
Speaker 5: hat on. And so I took that back to Europe
Speaker 5: and I took it around the Middle East. And I
Speaker 5: went around the Middle East that year and it was
Speaker 5: stinking hot, like forty eight degrees celsius in Egypt, and
Speaker 5: this hat was incredible. Now I started sweating in it
Speaker 5: a lot, right, So eventually, I think at the end
Speaker 5: of the trip I just chucked it out, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I wish I kept that. Actually, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 5: can easily buy a new one, but that was the
Speaker 5: one that had been through some battles with me, you know,
Speaker 5: it had been some places, and I'm like, I wish
Speaker 5: I just didn't throw that out. That was really nice
Speaker 5: and comfortable. Now think about it again, we're in the
Speaker 5: middle of the stink and hot here in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I might go to the.
Speaker 5: Australian Bakery cafe and see if he's got one of
Speaker 5: those two buy one, because I need one.
Speaker 1: Everything Australian in this not everything, But he's got buy
Speaker 1: a kangaroo from this game. You can buy kangaroo meat.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, he's got a few other those little
Speaker 5: you know, things like that that people want, want souvenese.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm check it out. Tell you how to
Speaker 5: nith pick up some paws and Lemington's while you're there.
Speaker 1: Sounds delicious. What do you got here for this one tray?
Speaker 3: I struggled with this because for me, this is like
Speaker 3: an in the moment thing where I will remember like
Speaker 3: a ridiculous item of clothing that was no longer useful
Speaker 3: in my house and eventually went to the thrift store.
Speaker 3: But in that moment, I'm like, man, I really wish
Speaker 3: I'd saved that terry cloth t shirt, you know, like, like,
Speaker 3: why do I need a shirt that's made out of
Speaker 3: a towel?
Speaker 4: Only for one day? Could I want it? But that
Speaker 4: one day, I'm like, why in the world would I
Speaker 4: get that out of my house?
Speaker 6: I need it?
Speaker 1: Now give me my terry cloth. What about you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no regrets and no nothing. I don't keep anything
Speaker 6: and I don't regret not keeping anything.
Speaker 1: Really, you're you're similar to me in that in that sense,
Speaker 1: you don't hold on to things all that much.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really the same. Same with Trey. I really
Speaker 6: struggled with this. I could think of a single thing
Speaker 6: that I wish I still had. Wow, like nothing, there's nothing.
Speaker 5: Not even those drumsticks, drums.
Speaker 6: Especially the drumsticks.
Speaker 1: Well, let me, is your wife the opposite of you?
Speaker 4: JD?
Speaker 1: Like, does she like to, you know, keep things that have,
Speaker 1: you know, sentimental attachment to them or not? Really?
Speaker 6: She likes to horde things, but I don't know that
Speaker 6: it's sentimental half things out? Yeah exactly, Yeah, not really.
Speaker 6: I mean she she suspected she was looking at her
Speaker 6: engagement ring, and she suspected that they made there may
Speaker 6: be a blood diamond in it. So she took it
Speaker 6: off like this was this was years ago, and and
Speaker 6: and which was fine. I mean she bought it. I
Speaker 6: didn't buy it. It was she bought it for herself.
Speaker 6: That's how sentimental I am. And so I had a
Speaker 6: wedding band. I'm like, well, you're not gonna wear wear yours.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna wear mine. So I took mine off
Speaker 6: and I haven't seen it since. I have no idea
Speaker 6: where that wedding ring is. I think a guy donated
Speaker 6: to a good well or something.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Well, when I go back for my terry cloth, t
Speaker 3: sher jewelry section as well.
Speaker 1: Sit next one here, what's up? No Dunk's Crew. Recently,
Speaker 1: I've noticed two references to Keith van Horn on the podcast,
Speaker 1: once on the pod with NBA Jam author ray On
Speaker 1: Ali and the other with Cha Serano, who on the
Speaker 1: Who Wants Some Trivia podcasts. When I was six or seven,
Speaker 1: I loved Keith van Horn because he played for my
Speaker 1: hometown team, the seventy six ers, but also childishly because
Speaker 1: we share the same first name. So my question is
Speaker 1: have you ever liked a player for a really trivial
Speaker 1: or stupid reason? If so, who your tup? Love you guys, possum.
Speaker 1: That's from Keith r fun question. Yeah, we have talked
Speaker 1: to Oddlee a lot about Keith van Horn over the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks on the podcast what do You Got, Trey.
Speaker 3: We're gonna keep talking about Keith van Horn because he
Speaker 3: is my answer, along with his Nets teammate Carrie Kittles,
Speaker 3: because they had tass. You know, they had that great
Speaker 3: series against the Bulls in nineteen ninety eight, so they
Speaker 3: seemed like a team on the rise. Their socks certainly
Speaker 3: were on the rise. Jordan retired after that, so the
Speaker 3: Nets became my second favorite team just because they had
Speaker 3: two guys would pull their socks up to their knees.
Speaker 4: So for me, like seventh and.
Speaker 3: Eighth grade, I'm running out there with you know, our
Speaker 3: nineteen seventies uniforms handed down from the high school. I
Speaker 3: got the bike shorts sticking out and my socks pulled
Speaker 3: all the way up to my legs.
Speaker 4: I'm only showing kneecaps.
Speaker 1: I think you weren't alone in that that that you know,
Speaker 1: fashion fat or whatever you want to call it. People were.
Speaker 3: Kittles is even more of a legend because when he
Speaker 3: was playing at Villanova, he would go one sock up
Speaker 3: and one sock down. Seemed unbelievable that somebody could actually
Speaker 3: do that. I don't know if it was actually allowed
Speaker 3: for him in the NBA. So he eventually switched to
Speaker 3: the two socks up look but a money look.
Speaker 2: No doubt.
Speaker 1: Keith Van Horn, what do you got Lee?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't even really remember how it started, but
Speaker 5: the Kyle Kolova kisses really turned me to just a
Speaker 5: super fan of Kyle Korva. Like before he joined the Hawks.
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't dislike him or anything, but I
Speaker 5: didn't love him.
Speaker 4: But then it.
Speaker 5: Became to the point where I was like, Keith van
Speaker 5: Kyle Korva has to be an All Star in twenty
Speaker 5: fifteen or whatever it was twenty sixteen maybe, and he
Speaker 5: was and he turned into an All Star and it's like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, he's made it and now and then
Speaker 5: I did that shootout with him as well for the show,
Speaker 5: and I just sort of all of a sudden went
Speaker 5: from like, yeah, he's a you know, he's an Ashton
Speaker 5: Kutcher looking guy who can shoot threes into like Kyle
Speaker 5: Korva is my favorite player of all time.
Speaker 1: Wow, you you created the corvera kisses? Did you? Yeah?
Speaker 5: But how I don't know, I mean do we just
Speaker 5: like it must have been down at the Fortress one
Speaker 5: night and it was just that I guess after he started,
Speaker 5: after he started knocking in some threes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Great.
Speaker 5: But I just love Kyle now and I love seeing
Speaker 5: him out on the bucks and anytime he comes out
Speaker 5: on the court, I'm like, I hope he hits a
Speaker 5: few threes because he's great.
Speaker 1: Okay, task, I announced it.
Speaker 2: I will always love Jason max Seal because he had
Speaker 2: the perfect round head his head. His head unlike any
Speaker 2: other NBA player I've ever seen. He was He was
Speaker 2: rolled as a child. He never spent more than five
Speaker 2: minutes on his back or on his belly. He was
Speaker 2: rolled at all times. So his head is perfectly round.
Speaker 2: Try find me a more roundhead than Jason Maxiel.
Speaker 1: Eric snow no, Eric, No, that's a roundhead.
Speaker 2: I guess you're thought it was a more narrow.
Speaker 1: Jason Maxieal. I like that he has just a place
Speaker 1: in no Dunk Slash starter slash basketball Jones Lore too,
Speaker 1: with the infamous bet that we made way back in
Speaker 1: the day that he would be an All Star before
Speaker 1: Danny Granger, which is still one of the weirdest bets
Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, that's I think that. Didn't he
Speaker 1: Danny Granger? Did he only make one?
Speaker 5: I need to?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I had high hopes for Jason Maxiel.
Speaker 1: I fell in love early. I liked how he played,
Speaker 1: I loved his energy and it was good. And then
Speaker 1: he completely disappared and then Danny Greecher was the I
Speaker 1: don't know why. Why did I pick Danny Granger is
Speaker 1: the weird part, as like, I mean, maybe task maybe
Speaker 1: even you picked him and we were debating who was
Speaker 1: going to be better. I can't really remember that part
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 2: Story, but I don't know. Could have been a question too.
Speaker 2: Eric Snow looking looking it up now, I get what
Speaker 2: you're saying with the roundness. The top of his head
Speaker 2: is really round, but I'm talking full fully, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a sphere, perfect perfect head.
Speaker 5: Brooks had a little roundhead, didn't he, I think, Yeah?
Speaker 1: He had, didn't Marsham Brooks have he had a normal size?
Speaker 1: Had I thought? And then had like someone took photoshop
Speaker 1: and like shrunked his face down into the head.
Speaker 2: Small features, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Small features.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: You know it's the dog days, baby, because this one
Speaker 2: is about a reporter and everybody and everybody out there
Speaker 2: is getting their content from NBA reporters these days, hanging
Speaker 2: out in their hotel rooms, and you know, the contact
Speaker 2: with players has been reduced, so we're talking reporters, and
Speaker 2: this guy loves it. Heyo, No dunks. There, y'all are,
Speaker 2: And here I am in Omaha, Nebraska last Monday. When
Speaker 2: Test spoke the name of my beloved hometown, I instantly
Speaker 2: turned the volume up and pulled into a nearby runs
Speaker 2: up parking lot to properly indulge in the discussion. Hearing
Speaker 2: about local celebrity ESPN's Brian Windhurst in the conversation was
Speaker 2: absolutely delightful. Being an avid listener of the Hoop Collective,
Speaker 2: it's cool to know that the host of the podcast
Speaker 2: lives in my city. I'll admit, when I first found
Speaker 2: out that Wendy lives in Omaha, I had quite the
Speaker 2: fanboy moment. Granted, if I were to run into him,
Speaker 2: I'd play it off cool, just say hi and tell
Speaker 2: them that I respect his work. Best case scenario, we
Speaker 2: hit it off and find out that we have something
Speaker 2: else in common other than making the NBA, such as
Speaker 2: paddleboarding or coin collecting. With that said, who is a
Speaker 2: celebrity you think you could realistically meet and what do
Speaker 2: you think you'd have in common with them besides what
Speaker 2: they're most known for, you guys rock. That's from Jack.
Speaker 1: He took out his example at the end there, which
Speaker 1: I was laughing because he was like, He's like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you play the guitar and you met Eric Clapton,
Speaker 1: of course you would be able to talk about playing
Speaker 1: the guitar together, but that shouldn't count. I thought that killed.
Speaker 2: Thanks Laila, all right, Lee.
Speaker 5: Uh well, we got easy one here. Obama. I think
Speaker 5: there's a chance, because he's a big basketball fan, that
Speaker 5: at some point, NBA All Star, NBA Finals, he's there.
Speaker 1: I'm there.
Speaker 5: We just happened to cross parts, and we don't talk politics.
Speaker 5: We just get a ball out and we start hooping,
Speaker 5: and we just started shooting hoops. I think that's, you know,
Speaker 5: not beyond the complete realm of any sort of fantasy
Speaker 5: that it could never happen. I mean, I'm not sure
Speaker 5: he's just going to come out, you know, and just
Speaker 5: be like throwing the ball at me and saying, let's
Speaker 5: see you shot. But just you know, sometimes these things
Speaker 5: just kind of you know, you're in the right place
Speaker 5: at the right time, and it's like, holy hell, I'm
Speaker 5: just shooting around with Barack Obama right now. He's just
Speaker 5: getting some shots off with him.
Speaker 2: It could happen, nor paralytics, nothing but laugh.
Speaker 1: Man. What percentage of chance of that happening would you
Speaker 1: put at Lee?
Speaker 5: Well, well, he's alive and I'm alive, I'd say that's
Speaker 5: one yea in each I'd say it's about about three percent.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: But listen, he was in Chicago at the All Star Week.
Speaker 5: I know he's I know he's an Illinois guy. But
Speaker 5: you know now that he's so far from the sort
Speaker 5: of presidential you know, his time as president. I think
Speaker 5: I think at some point he's going to just turn
Speaker 5: up at the finals, you know, and it's like.
Speaker 4: Oh, well, it wasn't the finals in Toronto.
Speaker 1: I think as a right, that's right.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think he's showing up three hours early
Speaker 3: and milling around the court.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that, But what about late in the game,
Speaker 5: like maybe he's maybe he's had a few pops in
Speaker 5: the in the suite, and he's like after the game,
Speaker 5: you know, everyone's sort of making their way out, and
Speaker 5: I'm just out in the court. He's in the court.
Speaker 1: The security. Security's not coming out on the court leating
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, after the game, you know they've cleared
Speaker 5: it all out, like all the media has done, and
Speaker 5: you know, I'm packing up on grabbing my bag. He's
Speaker 5: about to head out, and then someone there's a ball
Speaker 5: there and he gets some shots up. Security's not coming
Speaker 5: saying excuse me, so you got to go. They're like shoot.
Speaker 1: Away, man, go for it.
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, I'm rebounding and firing
Speaker 5: the ball back to him. Nice shot, beat, Nice shot.
Speaker 1: You know I shot beat while you're already cald be
Speaker 1: Yeah what. It might be even more likely that this
Speaker 1: scenario would happen at like some sort of like charity event,
Speaker 1: some initiative that he's backing. You know that there is
Speaker 1: a court, there's kids, you know. Yeah, Okay, then maybe
Speaker 1: you get an invite somehow, You're you're covering it for
Speaker 1: some reason.
Speaker 5: Maybe send him an invite to join me on popping
Speaker 5: packs about that. I think he'd be great at it.
Speaker 5: I think he'd be awesome at it. All right, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna send a message just I'll tell you how guys.
Speaker 1: All right, well you're doing that, Trey, Do you have
Speaker 1: an answer for this one.
Speaker 3: I think it's possible I could meet Bravos Andy Cohen
Speaker 3: because he's a Saint Louis guy, so he's probably around
Speaker 3: there sometimes. I've got Saint Louis connections on my side
Speaker 3: of the family and on Laura's side of the family.
Speaker 3: And if that ever happens, no doubt. We're talking Ted
Speaker 3: Drews Rosen Custard, the most famous custard shop in all
Speaker 3: of America. And we're also talking The Grateful Dead. The
Speaker 3: guy's a huge deadhead. You know, he's backstage at Dead
Speaker 3: and Company shows. He's buddies with John Mayer, and you know,
Speaker 3: I'd just like to talk to him about Europe seventy
Speaker 3: two or Cornell seventy seven.
Speaker 4: Who knows.
Speaker 1: Okay, I could see it happened. I'm sure I'll go
Speaker 1: with Bieber. I think I'll one day run into Bieber again.
Speaker 1: I saw him when he was a young kid, had
Speaker 1: no idea who the hell he was, of course at
Speaker 1: that point, but uh, you know, why not. It's some
Speaker 1: sort of Strafford festival. Beibe's gonna be back in town
Speaker 1: see his grandparents, and then we're just talking Strafford. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: high school.
Speaker 6: Yell this.
Speaker 1: I can't believe this change. Can you believe they got
Speaker 1: a KFC now? Stuff like that? I think I could happen,
Speaker 1: and then it might just even be Yeah, it might be.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I've thrown the challenge out there before.
Speaker 1: I'd like to play on one on one. See who's
Speaker 1: Strafford's finess is between? Oh yeah, I would definitely drop
Speaker 1: the biber on Biber. That would be the first thing
Speaker 1: I would do. In fact, I don't think i'd ever
Speaker 1: shoot it. I would just keep trippling. Yeah, just keep
Speaker 1: going till whatever shot clock expired and hand the ball
Speaker 1: back to home. And I would only shoot in my
Speaker 1: left hand. Right, don't the shoot with his left hand
Speaker 1: on this and that one famous clip, I'd have to
Speaker 1: wear a La King's hat to give a stare to
Speaker 1: the camera. Yeah, Beabs, I'll run into Beabs at some point.
Speaker 1: Task gut an answer.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a spot I go to for kids down
Speaker 2: here in Atlanta, the Atlanta Children's Museum, and quite often
Speaker 2: they bring out you know, huge characters in their six
Speaker 2: foot costumes, like Daniel Tiger, you know Disney characters. I
Speaker 2: I have dreams of them bringing out the teenage mutant
Speaker 2: Ninja Turtles and meeting my idol, Michelangelo. I'm a huge
Speaker 2: Michelangelo guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he's such a party dude.
Speaker 2: It's a huge party dude. You know his primary focus partying,
Speaker 2: secondary focus none chucking, but his third focus of pizza.
Speaker 2: We could we could brow down on talking pizza, me
Speaker 2: and Michelangelo.
Speaker 1: To bring back in the reporter talk. Do you see
Speaker 1: Chris Mannix writing about he doesn't like cheese on anything
Speaker 1: except pizza. He was writing this in his bubble report
Speaker 1: for SI Crazy take. Doesn't like cheese on anything, finds
Speaker 1: it disgusting except pizza. That's the weirdest part to me.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, if you're anti anti cheese, okay, I
Speaker 1: get it. Maybe you're even lactos dollar or whatever. But
Speaker 1: he's obviously not because he loves it on pizza like
Speaker 1: a normal person. But Nacho's no bread. No, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's wild to me.
Speaker 3: It really makes you wonder would he eat a cheesy
Speaker 3: garlic bread It's pretty similar.
Speaker 1: I guess not. I guess.
Speaker 2: Fascinating times we are reading about all of these reporters
Speaker 2: food tendencies. I think Lee, you could take a tip
Speaker 2: from the athletics Joe Varden. He's trying to become vegan
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 5: Wow, that's tough.
Speaker 2: That is tough, and I know you're struggling to be
Speaker 2: in the vegetarian category. Maybe he can, maybe he can
Speaker 2: bring you along. You know, he's doing it in the bubble.
Speaker 5: I know, I've seen what people are tweeting out there,
Speaker 5: those ham and cheese croissants and things like that. I mean,
Speaker 5: if that's all you're getting, it's hot to just sort
Speaker 5: of pick the cheese and the ham out of that
Speaker 5: and just leak the croissant too. So it's a tough time.
Speaker 5: If he can pull it off, I commend him for it.
Speaker 5: If he can do it, then I can do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, we got way more than ten people,
Speaker 1: ten reporters in this bubble, right I don't know, if
Speaker 1: you keep it track, it's gotta be way over ten.
Speaker 1: It's closer to twenty if you ask me, maybe twenty
Speaker 1: five it feels like it gets and is it groundhog
Speaker 1: Day right now? Following all these guys and women, Like
Speaker 1: it's like I get it. They're stuck in a hotel
Speaker 1: room for seven days. They don't have much else to
Speaker 1: report on. They got to get that content going, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta crank that out, especially with the
Speaker 1: amount of money it takes to send these people there.
Speaker 1: But it's like I feel like I've read or seen
Speaker 1: the same thing like ten times now of like this
Speaker 1: is my kit and this is what I do, and
Speaker 1: this is my hotel room there. It's the exact same
Speaker 1: hometown rooms. But again, I'm not knocking them. It's like
Speaker 1: hilarious that they've they're just way. We've got this little
Speaker 1: lineup here of great reporters down there for all these
Speaker 1: different factions, but it's the same thing over and over
Speaker 1: over again. I can't wait till they're free to leave
Speaker 1: their hotel room at the.
Speaker 5: I just I'm just looking here for Barack Obama because
Speaker 5: he follows like six hundred thousand people on Twitter bad news.
Speaker 5: I can't slide into his dms there, but I have
Speaker 5: found I have found like a contact Barack Obama and
Speaker 5: if you've got to you know, if you've got something
Speaker 5: you want to say to him, just fill out this form.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna send him an out say if he
Speaker 5: wants to come and pop some packs with me.
Speaker 6: Take leah, I'll DM him for you. Because he follows me.
Speaker 5: Say it's already starting to come together like this, though
Speaker 5: I'd appreciate that.
Speaker 1: That'd be great he still follows you.
Speaker 6: I haven't checked it a while, but I think so wow.
Speaker 5: If he does, he just just slot in there and
Speaker 5: just say, my friend once last year.
Speaker 6: Wants to open basketball cards with you.
Speaker 1: Is he?
Speaker 3: What is he?
Speaker 1: Ten eleven? That's sounds like it could be fun. Oh no, No,
Speaker 1: he's a forty three year old man.
Speaker 5: Forty four.
Speaker 1: It's a good number for Yeah, you snergy. What the
Speaker 1: hell's a Runza? By the way, he said he pulled
Speaker 1: into a Runza parking lot. Never heard of a Runza.
Speaker 1: Is that a like a like a home depot type
Speaker 1: thing in Nebraska?
Speaker 2: Is it as a restaurant? It looks like.
Speaker 1: Never sandwich shop of some sort.
Speaker 2: Runs aren't Why Nebraska is obsessed with the Runs of Sandwich?
Speaker 1: Is that anywhere else in the country. I've never am
Speaker 1: I alone even saying this, I mean, I guess.
Speaker 2: Not yeah, no, no idea.
Speaker 1: Oh I gotta try a runza now I Brian Winnhor's
Speaker 1: talking about a runza? Is it good? Is it a
Speaker 1: good sub sandwich? Whatever?
Speaker 2: Chris Max, you gonna eat this? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a little cheesy, amazing, amazing, all right, one more
Speaker 1: and then we'll wrap this bad boy up. Hey, no,
Speaker 1: dumb's crewe. Lately, my two year old son has been
Speaker 1: running around the house saying bitch, bitch, bitch. My wife
Speaker 1: and I try not to swear in front of him
Speaker 1: because he's a little parrot, but a few f bombs
Speaker 1: have slept here and there. However, we don't normally say
Speaker 1: the word bitch, so we would be confused by this.
Speaker 1: On Wednesday, I turned on the Beach step in podcasts,
Speaker 1: and the second my son heard the music, he started
Speaker 1: saying bitch, bitch, bitch. Then it clicked. He's trying to
Speaker 1: say beach because he listens to every podcast. As soon
Speaker 1: as the regular intro music hits, he says podcast and
Speaker 1: hey he drops as in response to the bearded one. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about Jordan getting a bunch
Speaker 1: of bunk beds and having the delete eight second bubble
Speaker 1: At his vacant house in Chicago. There are a ton
Speaker 1: of rooms and a full sized court. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: the players will be thrilled by sharing rooms like they're
Speaker 1: at summer camp, like they're sharing a big yurt. But
Speaker 1: maybe staying in MJ's house adds a certain element to it.
Speaker 1: What you got that's from Eric fun little story off
Speaker 1: the top. Yes, it's beach. He's just trying to stay beach.
Speaker 1: But I love that he loves the music, he loves
Speaker 1: the podcast. But what do you think about this idea, Trey,
Speaker 1: this Jordan idea second bubble?
Speaker 4: Brilliant man. He's trying to sell his house.
Speaker 3: You could lease it for a few months and you know,
Speaker 3: to to cover the mortgage.
Speaker 4: In the meantime.
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan has a team that could actually be playing
Speaker 3: in the bubble, so or I don't know if this
Speaker 3: would be a bubble in the mansion, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it. So yeah, send the hornets there, send
Speaker 3: the bulls there. But I don't know if you're gonna
Speaker 3: have enough space for eight teams in one house. But
Speaker 3: there are a lot of celebrities that have basketball connections
Speaker 3: that also have basketball courts in their house, right, you
Speaker 3: could do The Warriors maybe could play at Drake's Shack
Speaker 3: has a court.
Speaker 4: Will Smith has a court.
Speaker 3: We can open it up, send two teams to each
Speaker 3: famous person's house and have them play a few times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then just make it a reality show. Oh,
Speaker 1: like them living in the mansion like Big Brother is
Speaker 1: a style there. Yeah, I like that idea a lot.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to. I mean, I guess who's the
Speaker 1: worst team to leave a you Warriors if they all
Speaker 1: went to MJ. So the Warriors would have to sleep
Speaker 1: in the cigar room. That's the punishment, right, because it's
Speaker 1: like Big Brothers, like first one in the house. If
Speaker 1: you have the best record, you get to go in
Speaker 1: the house first, and you get to pick your room.
Speaker 1: I think your team gets to pick your area of
Speaker 1: MJ's mansion. I don't know. I wouldn't want to sleep
Speaker 1: in a cigar room that lead Oh.
Speaker 5: God, yeah nah nah, No matter how much scrubbing and cleaning,
Speaker 5: it probably still is a bit musty in there. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it's funny, isn't it that he still hasn't been able
Speaker 5: to sell that house. I thought like it's stanyn to
Speaker 5: foty and a half million or whatever. That's a steal.
Speaker 5: That's a steal. I think it's shocked that he concept.
Speaker 5: It must be something else wrong.
Speaker 1: With it, Oh, bad bones.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe plumbing, maybe the electricals. You know, maybe someone's
Speaker 5: checked it out and they're like, this toilet, this the
Speaker 5: fifteenth toilet doesn't flush all that well, so it's a
Speaker 5: nobly handle. Yeah, who knows?
Speaker 1: Who knows? All right, guys, thank you so much for
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