WEBVTT - Beach Steppin' | Were 'The Heatles' A Disappointment? 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.720 Yeah, back to stepping on the beach, the only place 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.960 to read your emails and tweets. It's Wednesday, July fifteenth. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.280 I'm Jays Skeets and alongside me ready to toss around 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.760 the old football on the sand, tass Melice. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.919 While we're tossing it around, first, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Justice Ginsburg, 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.400 get healthy, Ruth, fight it off like you always do. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.320 And well, well, well look who escaped from the yurt. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:52.800 It's the bearded one, Trey Kirby. Ow heyo. Nice to 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.720 have you back, buddy. We got the international man of 0:00:54.760 --> 0:01:00.160 mystery taking it to the max Lee Ellis friends, but 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.640 not least making the magic happen here. It's jd Hell 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.039 there is, and here we are. Keep your questions coming. 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.080 Email us No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com or 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.919 tweet them in at No Dunksinc. Or use that hashtag 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:12.840 no Dunks tray. It's great to see it. Looks like 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.800 you got a nice tam going on there. And Killer 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:16.720 led Zeppelin. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.520 Yeah, I'm in pod City the basement right now in 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.720 Lake Holiday, Illinois. Been outside a lot for the past 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:27.759 five or six days, no doubt about it. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.840 How was the yurt experience. I know, we saw a 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.640 little bit of video. You gave us the mo vernie 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.759 like hotel room tour in that yurt, But how does 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:37.440 sleeping go? 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.560 Yeah, pretty quick tour in the old yurt. It's just 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.959 beds and fans in there. We walked in, it was like, 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.720 you know, the middle of the day, probably two o'clock. 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.400 It was like one hundred and ten degrees. It felt like, well, 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.200 I was instantly regretting my decision. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.160 How are we going to sleep in here? But then 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.440 night falls and it's beautiful. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.600 In the year, slept easy, you know, because my kids 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.440 didn't sell Laura had to go hop in the bed 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.400 with them. I had a nice giant bed all to myself, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.600 you know, hopped up on the top bunk a little bit. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.520 Trying to throw it back to the summer camp days. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:08.160 Was a good time. 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.680 Oh nice. Yeah, that yurt was way bigger than I 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.440 thought it was gonna be. I get it was like 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.480 like a campground type thing. So it makes sense that 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:16.720 you got to put a lot of kids in their 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.600 counselors or whatever. But you know, I had it in 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.560 my mind like just like much smaller. The thing was huge. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:23.480 Yeah, for sure. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.720 The first year, and I ever stayed in in my 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.839 previous year experience, it was meant to sleep two or three, 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:29.440 so that was. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:30.639 What I was expecting as well. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.760 But I don't know, I can't imagine having twenty boys 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.400 in there, you know, in the middle of summer. Well, 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.960 that's a fart year it if you ask me, that's 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:39.320 such a. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.919 Great wood yet hearing. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.040 It, yeah, it's fun to say, you know wrong. Al Right, guys, 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.360 check out the Before we get into the questions, I 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:48.960 want you to check out the new podcast feed on 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.880 the Athletics. It's called The Athletic NBA Show. We had 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.040 Big Wahs on yesterday's No Dunks pod. He of courses 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.079 on hoops adjacent with Hall of Famer David Aldridge. That's 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.680 a part of the Athletic NBA Show, and he was great. 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:02.440 He was a fun guest. He not only give us 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.680 the four to one one on all the shows within 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.919 that podcast feed, but we had a bunch of fun 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.960 questions for him, some serious ones, some silly ones about 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.240 the bubble and he was killing it. So make sure 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.680 you go check out that podcast with Big Waz posted 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.880 it on Tuesday. Also on Tuesday, Lee popping packs with niek. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.960 So you can now go and watch that on our 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.360 Instagram account at no dunk sync. How'd that one go? 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:24.280 Pretty good? 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.080 Yeah? Nick was pretty good. Yeah, he was just chilling 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.919 out in Atlanta, sweltering like I was. And we popped 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.160 the pack, got some nice cards in there. Had a 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.639 nice little off the court card with Nick as well, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.920 which you might want to check out. I knew he 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:38.480 was a member of the old NBA team and an 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.160 old Star, but he was also a member of another 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.640 all NBA team. Go and check it out. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.160 Okay, interesting little teas right there, and we'll very likely 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.280 post that as a podcast later in the week, maybe 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.400 on the weekend, Popping Packs with Hall of Famer Dominique Wilkins. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.960 And finally, here, in case you haven't figured it out 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.160 about yet, we're on YouTube again, guys, JD. It is 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.480 officially a streak. How many days in a row we've 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:01.600 been on YouTube it's like four. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.600 Or five now it feels like a hundred. 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There has 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.760 been some talk leading up to the restart about players 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.839 being able to sit courtside to watch other teams play. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.400 I have visions of Pat Bev trash talk in the 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.400 competition while wearing the same white T shirt he's worn 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.719 all month. Yeah, he's got him stacked in his room 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.080 if you've seen his videos, those white teeth. But I'm 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.360 looking forward to some players doing things to get their 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.400 NBA peers pumped. Who do you predict will be your 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.880 favorite player's favorite player. I'm going with some not so 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.960 obvious choices of CJ McCollum as someone who will cross 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.960 up a big on a switch and get some ooze 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.560 and Tim Hardaway Junior catching fire from three flip down. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.560 Hate you guys terrible. That's nice. I'm Matt from Portland. 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.960 So who are other NBA players going to be excited 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:24.479 to watch in person? 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.600 Yeah? Tough question to get it started here. I love 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.960 the Tim Hardaway junior suggestion, though, you guys know, I 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.080 got Timmy Hardaway going for fifty in the bubble. It's 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:39.400 still alive. Why not he could catch fire, although it's 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.400 a weird one tasks, maybe just because it's in the 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.760 news recently. He's got a great name. Looks like he's 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.719 gonna have more of a prominent role on what should 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.000 be a good team. Give me shake, Milton, give me shake, 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.920 maybe impressing some of the other NBA players who maybe 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.760 don't know a lot about his game, but being on 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.680 again on a good team, looks like he's gonna get 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.680 the starting point guard spot, Simmons moving to more of 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.479 a four position there. If the Sixers play well and 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.000 shake Milton balls out like he was. You know, but 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.000 before the hiatus, when he was really filling in for 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.400 Ben Simmons at the point corposition, you know, I could 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.160 see some well, who is this guy? Oh? Those Sixers 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.960 looking good. I've got a real point guard here, you know. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:15.719 I don't know. I just this is a tough question, 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.719 but I could see it going there maybe or he 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.000 would get some love on social media accounts from some 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.320 of the other NBA players. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:25.440 It's a good one and the Sixers teammates, it feels inevitable, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.000 like when he pulls off a nice move, like they're 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.280 all gonna do a little shake. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:30.120 Yeah, this shape. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.080 It's player that players in the stands as well. You 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.120 can't help it. The Sixers are an exuberant bunch. I'm 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.359 sure they'll be doing the shake shake. And Joel embiid 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.559 he sounds pretty pumped to be playing with a guard 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.919 who can let it rip like he wants a jj 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.440 reddick back like he had last season, and I think 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.680 he's going to be pumped. It's weird to hear Ben 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.800 Simmons say I'm gonna be setting picks for a guy 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.279 and I'm gonna be playing the pick and roll or 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.280 the pick and pop, pick and pop, Ben Simmons, It's 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.039 strange to hear him say that. But yeah, I can't 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.039 wait to see that workout. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:00.680 Yeah, what do you guys got. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.359 I think we've already seen a little bit of a 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.800 return of one of the greatest romances in history with 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.320 Toby and Bobie back in the bubble together, and I 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.760 think you know this one obviously, Bobi he plays a 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.480 little bit more sort of garbage time minutes, but I 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.800 think every basket he's going to get, you know, Toby's 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.600 going to be on the side cheering him on. Everyone's 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:18.520 going to be cheering on Bobe. 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:19.360 Everyone loves him. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.000 And I actually think, you know, talk about Joel Embiid. 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.720 I think Joel Ebiid will also embrace the Bobie. I 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.440 think he would love to see him out there because 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.239 he's just such a fun guy, Boba, and he's already 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.480 having a great time dancing and living it up in 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.760 the bubble, So I think he's got I don't think 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.560 anyone could possibly dislike him. And I think he's going 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.000 to have the Bigges cheer squad down there. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:39.240 It's right. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.920 Another guy who's in the news a little bit lately. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.640 I think Jamal Crawford. You know, he's a guy that 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.560 NBA players who have always loved to watch. He had 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.280 been out of the league this season and now he's 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.600 making a return. He's just got a highlight ready game. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.920 You know, players I'm sure will be excited to see 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.200 Jamal Crawford back in the NBA. And then if he, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.800 you know, crosses somebody up goes behind his back, gets 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.720 an there Jamal Crawford like highlight. People will be going crazy. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.080 This is what we were talking about. This is why 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.600 you needed to have Jamal Crawford back. Not to mention, 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.200 he said he never practiced his dribbling in his entire 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.480 life and just came out naturally. So I'm guessing a 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:13.840 year off isn't gonna be a problem. 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:18.320 Yeah, I got a bunch of a bunch of ones 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.200 because it's hard to come up with an answer for that. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.480 You're right, Jamal Crawford, great one. So I came up 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.080 with a bunch of little ones to add up to 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.040 think it was good enough. You know what I mean. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:27.680 When you don't have a good answer on beach stepping, 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.360 you just get a bunch of little ones to think 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.440 that it's good enough. Ben Simmons, I think he's going 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:36.240 to be cheered on by Orlando's Michael Carter Williams because 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.080 Michael Carter Williams gonna look at that guy and say, 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.160 I don't want to shoot threes like him. I want 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.040 to be as good as him, so he's gonna come 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.400 cheer on Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is his idol. I 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.959 think Miami's Jimmy Butler is going to cheer on Indiana's TJ. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.920 Warren sarcastically because they hate each other. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.480 YEA, still does that carry it to the bubble? 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:54.960 You think? 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.679 Oh yeah, I would think so the way Jimmy Butler 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.839 was despised that guy, and they did get their March 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:04.600 twentieth game that they were supposed to get the rematch, right, so, 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.440 oh god, yeah, Jimmy doesn't like him. Jannis will be 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.720 at Lakers games to cheer on brother Costa for sure, 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.319 and Coasta might play with the injuries that are happening there. 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.680 And speaking of brothers, I think Robin Lopez of the 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.760 Milwaukee Bucks might go up into the stands while his 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.880 brother Brook is playing on the same team, because Robin's 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:27.360 just that kind of guy and be like, I didn't 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.120 know the rules. I'm just gonna go up there and 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.040 cheer mud. Why not? 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.880 Those are good? Back to like you were talking about 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.920 maybe the Sixers pulling out the shake shake for shake, Milton, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.920 I like that I was thinking in thinking of this 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.000 this answer to this question. Will we see some of 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.320 the activities that the players have been doing in the 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.240 bubble over the last week or so turn into celebrations, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.199 So like, will there be like a shotgunning beers celebration? 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.160 Will there be a like will there be a fishing celebration? 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.839 You know, like we're holding up your catch? Could be 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:03.320 a ping pong sort of celebration, right, Like, there's some 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.000 possibilities there. They get creative with some of these activities 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:06.360 they're doing. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.400 I think you get a corn hole in there, corn hole, right, 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.160 throw it up. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.760 I hope they do. I hope they do. All right, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.720 next one here? What up? No dunks? My friends and 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.200 I just had a very heated discussion about Miami Heat 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.080 team with Wade, Bosh and Braun. We were arguing about 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.400 whether this team was a disappointment or not. There was 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.240 a lot of hype surrounding this team. Heck Lebron himself 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.120 predicted they would win up to eight titles, but as 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.360 we know, they only won two titles and the second 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.080 one was saved by a lucky Ray Allen three. So 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.160 two questions. One, was this Heat squad the Wade Bosh 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.839 Broun Heat a disappointment? And are there any other NBA 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.320 teams that failed to live up to their hype? Thanks 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.000 for all the amazing content, Keep up with great work. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.959 That's from Tyler in Connecticut to ask when do you 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.840 get us started? There are two questions there, which one 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:57.760 you want to tackle first? 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.839 Are they a disappointment? When looking I say, no chance. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.640 They won two championships in four years plus two other 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:10.360 finals appearances. That's not a disappointment. No, no, no. Lebron 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.400 won two of his championships there. And I don't start 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.360 going the lucky route with the lucky Rayale and three 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.679 because I mean, you just if that's a slippery slope, 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.400 my man, you're not gonna win a third. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:22.960 Man who hit the three from the Yeah, it's like 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.040 one of the greatest three point shooters ever. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:26.079 Yeah. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.120 Yeah, and something he practiced that doesn't matter anyway. Go 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.760 earlier in the series, Tony Parker hit a luckier shot 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.240 to win Game one when he sort of stumbled, kept 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.720 his dribble, fell down and hit that game winner. When 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.080 we all I remember us talking about that after it. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.640 We were like this could go down as an incredible 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.640 game winner in NBA Finals, And now everybody forgets it. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.040 Because of the race shot. But it's a slippery slope. Man. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.120 Everybody gets quote unquote lucky. That's not even lucky. Why 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.920 do I even why do I bring that word up again? 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.680 The amount of time they stayed together, you can be 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.200 disappointed by that. I do think that's shocking that they 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.000 only stayed four times, or stay for four years, I 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.880 should say, after you know, the whole Grand introduction where 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.800 they won two, three, four, five, six seven. So whoever's 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.960 arguing with you Tyler that it was a disappointment, come on, man, 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:14.440 But I think go ahead. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.040 I think Tyler is actually from Boston. I think he's 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.080 a Bean town boy. I think we've heard from him before, 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.559 so that's why he's playing it down now. Look, I 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.720 think it depends on what your expectations were. You know, 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.720 four trips to the finals is two championships enough? Of course, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.520 I think it is. But I think if you were 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.600 to look at that Mavericks loss in twenty eleven, I 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.000 think that's the one that sort of things went wrong 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.840 because they were up to one in that series and 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.080 Lebron had a very very bad game. I think it 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.920 was Game four and the MAVs came back in. Yeah, 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.719 he had eight points in that game, So I think 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.600 if you look at it in the hole, you could say, 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.080 you know, they've sort of left one on the table. 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.680 Certainly there to Dallas, but that one that they lost 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.920 to San Antonio, the Spurs were virtually unbeatable in that finals. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.480 They were just a completely different unit. So I think 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.600 I think overall, you know, champions any franchise would take 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:02.920 two out of four if they could get there that 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.640 many times. But you know, again, I think there's a 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.920 case to be made there that they blew it against 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.600 the Mavericks Trail. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.920 What do you think are the Heat the Heatles as 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.160 we call them, a disappointment? 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:14.800 Definitely not. 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.600 You know, the two championships is great, but I think 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.480 it just goes to show you how hard it is 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.959 to win a lot of championships, especially in a row. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.080 You could look at the Heat and say they've got 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:25.720 three of the best players in the league, they should 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.320 win the championship every year, but that just doesn't how 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.439 it happens. You know, they also strung together a twenty 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.040 seven game winning streak that kind of goes unremembered as 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.200 since it's a regular season thing, but that was a 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.959 major moment in the league. It's similar to Kevin Grant 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.040 and Steph Curry on the Warriors. You know, they get together, 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.960 you assume they're gonna win every championship, but they had. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.960 Two seasons where they didn't even win sixty games. 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.560 It's just hard to keep players healthy when they're playing 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.679 one hundred games during a season. It's hard to keep 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.560 everybody motivated. It's hard to keep everybody on the same page. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.640 And we've seen that time and time again. You know, 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.040 the Lakers fell apart in their early two thousands because 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.200 they eventually had be the same. You know, Lebron eventually 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.680 wanted to go back to Cleveland, Katie, Steph and the 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.000 Warriors eventually split up. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.640 It's just hard to spring together a whole bunch of 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:08.280 titles together. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.640 Yeah, we've been talking about this, or not talking about it, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.000 maybe ourselves, but I've been listening to a lot of 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.320 podcasts talk about this team over the last couple of weeks. 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:17.800 Maybe you guys have as well, because it was the 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.960 ten year anniversary of Lebron's decision going down there, and 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.320 there was a lot of retrospective columns and podcasts again 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.640 talking about it. Chris bosh I know, talking about he's 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.840 even started his own sort of thing, substack thing, the 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.120 last Chip, I believe it's called. I think the only 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.760 reason they get into trouble here as a disappointment is 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.760 because of the not the decision from Lebron, which obviously 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.320 just got ridiculed like crazy at the time and even 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.480 to this day going on TV and saying in peace 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.880 out Cleveland. But it is that celebration rally where they 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.520 say they're gonna win six seven A titles. So you 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.960 say that and then you come up obviously drastically short 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.480 of that, Well maybe that is a disappointment. Like you 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.320 were saying, tasks, they only even stick the game for 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.200 four years, for crying out out, they don't have even 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.000 a chance to even get to six seven or eight. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.720 So if you just remove that completely, if that never happened, 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.640 then hands down, they're like, obviously, you know, one of 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.600 the better teams of all time, maybe even with the 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.320 talent they had, going back to back super difficult to 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.920 do and going to four straight finals, you know, maybe 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.520 just as difficult to do, but they do that, so 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.640 you gotta knock them a little bit. That's that's I 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.880 think where this argument probably between Tyler and his friends 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.120 is coming up. They said this, and they didn't even 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.600 come close to it, okay, but still obviously a great team. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.960 They brought it upon themselves, no doubt, no doubt with 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.680 that open. I think in twenty years, when we look 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.720 back at that that grand opening, when they came together 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.040 that rally, I think everyone's gonna gonna say, you know what, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.960 Lebron said, they were gonna win twenty five championship. It's 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.040 just gonna get bigger then, and bigger and bigger and bigger. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.440 Because it was not five, not six, not seven already 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.920 it's up to eight. So it's not gonna stop. Lebron 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.120 said he's gonna win one every year. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.880 What did what did he actually stop at seven? 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:02.280 Yeah? 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:02.960 I think it was seven. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:04.840 Oh okay, yeah, you're right, it's already going up. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.880 It's ticking up, you're right, okay, yeah. But it's crazy 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:13.240 to think, like two of his three championships we're in 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.200 there those four years and it's a disappointment, like most 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.280 of his championships were in that running. He's almost the 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.680 best player of all time, but it's a disappointment. It's 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.280 kind of weird. All right, next week, hey nd with 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.160 the NBA about to restart in the Disney bubble and 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.160 with your recent Disney Squad episode, I was wondering who 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.880 you think had a great Wookie season. Let me explain. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.480 A Wookie season is a season where a rookie is 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.960 just an absolute beast. In my mind, he's maybe not 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:45.800 that offensively gifted, but defensively he's likely underrated thanks Force Choke, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.960 dark Side Evaders eyes. That's from Kyle Lee. Why don't 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:50.560 you get it started? 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:50.920 What? 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.040 Yeah? Well, hold on before Lee answers JD, what is 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.160 he talking about here? Why is a Wookie maybe not 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.520 offensively gifted, but it's great defensively. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.800 They're tall, They're really really tall, I guess, and they 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:04.959 can just hang out at the hoop and black people 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:09.640 I guess. Okay, I mean I think a Wookie would 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:14.040 make a great shooter, but I disagree wholeheartedly. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.840 So Lee, with that said, who's who do you got 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.960 on your old Wookie team? Well, I'm going with. 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:21.919 A guy who I think had his best season for 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.040 his career as a rookie. It's a Mecha Oka four 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:25.880 back in two thousand and four, two thousand and five. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.000 I mean, he won Rookie of the year when Dwight 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.720 was the first pick in the draft and it was 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.439 considered maybe a Mecha's going to turn out better than 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.719 Dwight Howard. It didn't work out that way. But he 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.399 had like fifteen and ten or fifteen and eleven, i 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.720 should say, with two blocks a game and was just 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.960 a beast, and I thought, man, this guy is really good. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.160 You knew he didn't have a very finished or polished 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.480 offensive game, but you just thought athletically he was so 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.800 big and strong he would just be catching oops for 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.560 the rest of his career and then blocking shots on 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.000 the other end. And it's funny when you look at 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.040 his stats, they pretty much came down. He had his 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.200 rebound sort of stayed consistent there for a few years, 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.359 but his points just every single season. And of course, 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:03.800 you know he did come back a couple of times, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.800 or he made a couple of attempts to get back, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.920 but really kind of a disappointing career when you consider 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.840 that first season and just how impactfully. 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.000 Was anybody else. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.120 Wookie Matisse Fibel is having one of those seasons right now. 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.000 You know, he came into the league and he's instantly 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.320 one of the best guys on the ball and off 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.120 the ball, those crazy long arms. You have him out 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.359 there with Ben Simmons and it looks like kind of 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.000 two of the same guy who are able to do 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.720 the same sort of things defensively, flying all over the court, 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.680 protecting the rim, getting in passing lanes. 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:34.720 He's been impressive. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.119 Another seventy six er way back when Neurlins Noel was 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.160 the only player in the league to finish top ten 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.400 in blocks and steels, and he did it as a rookie. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.720 But unfortunately now we just know him for inventing the 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.119 pocket dog basically. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.639 Tasting when to add and Neurlans Zoel once had a 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:54.000 hoop in his living room, like he put it up 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.520 against the wall that was not ten feet for some 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.399 weird reason. It's like a full hoop. It was like 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:02.840 nine to six. He should be famous for that. Matist 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.440 Stipele is a great one because he's he's fresh off 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.760 the brain, because he's doing great work down in the bubble. 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.879 See his videos. That guy is editing his own videos 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.480 down There're awesome. Yeah, and he's he's turning out to 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.160 be a better shooter than people expect. So I don't 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:21.560 know if he's straight Wookie category. But I think I 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.960 think like a guy like like struggles offensively but is 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.680 doing good defensively, as Jared Culver of the Wolves going 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.720 deep here and Jackson Hayes probably of the uh the Pelicans, 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.040 the big guy, and maybe that's Wookie type hair. I 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.879 mean he lets it fly bigtime. I don't know. I 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:39.639 don't know what a Wookie hair is. I'm just making 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:40.280 things up now. 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.280 Well, yeah, I mean I get I get Wookie rhymes 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:47.360 with rookie, hence the question yeah to me, JD again, 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.480 correct me if I'm wrong. You're the expert here with 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.080 Star Wars. But like I think wookie, You're right, I 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.720 think of probably a tall guy, a big guy. But 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:58.840 I also think of like a sidekick, a co pilot, right. 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.000 I think it's someone that's lovable, it's got a big heart. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.200 Well, I mean, the most famous Wookie we know, Chewbacca, 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:10.639 is definitely a sidekick. But there are thousands millions of 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.280 Wookies out there. There's got to be some later leaders 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.640 in the bunch, right, I mean, right, right, right, I'm 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:17.560 talking specifically about Chewbacca. 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.600 Do we know other Wookies in the Star Wars canon? 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:26.119 I mean, uh, you know I don't personally, Well, so 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:30.480 you don't. Well, you know, I'm I'm our resident nerd, 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.719 but I'm not that much of a nerd. Let's be honest. 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.680 I mean, I got blasted last time I talked Star 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.880 Wars because I referred to Luke as the chosen One. Well, 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.679 he's not the chosen one. Apparently Darth Vader or Anakin 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:45.440 Skywalker is the chosen one. So I'm gonna get lots 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.440 of people pointing out famous wookies who are leaders. 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:49.200 Yep. 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.400 So yeah, don't worry, You're not gonna get it. I'm 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:52.959 gonna get it. 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.680 I'm sorry to bring that upon JD. 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.719 I feel like Chewbacca was even he was like Wicked 0:20:59.720 --> 0:20:59.919 with the. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:00.919 Crossbow, wasn't he? 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:03.600 Absolutely That's what I mean, A good shooter. 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.040 Yeah. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.840 Well, to explain this one, Why does JaVale McGhee have 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.920 one of his nicknames listed as Big Daddy Wookie? 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:13.879 Oh didn't know that one. 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:15.000 I didn't know that either. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.360 No, I don't think many people do. But Basketball Reference 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.200 has you know, he's got the standard Pierre ye something 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.240 else in there? The big secret what Big Daddy Wookie 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.639 and the Great Adventure just came out of nowhere, big 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:28.320 Daddy Wookie. 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.200 All right, well, I'm sure a listener right now screaming 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.280 at their podcast while they're walking their dog. 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:45.040 What about episode five of Clone Wars season six, Man's. 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:43.119 Turning on the Wars fans? 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.719 Well, yeah, I saw, I did see him getting that 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:50.080 blowback for his for his initial Star Wars comment there 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:51.080 about whatever Anakin? 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.320 Who'd you say, wasn't Anakin's a chosen one? But you 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.679 know not? To me, Luke Skywalker, he's the chosen He 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:57.919 brought balance to the forest. 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.080 Come on, you know what, You're the chosen one. Thank 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.040 you to me and us here on this podcast. All right, 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:08.320 next one here, Hey, dunk boys, I'm the biggest Survivor 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:12.720 fan I know. Listen to this. I've watched every season 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:16.960 multiple times. Wow, but I always kept this is amazing. 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:22.960 I always kept Survivor Pearl Islands unwatched because the idea 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.919 of having no new Survivor in the back pocket for 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:29.720 a rainy day felt like such a bummer. This guy 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:34.800 watched every single season a Survivor multiple times, but somehow decided, 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.360 you know what, I'm not gonna watch them all because 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.040 I need to have one just in case, you know, 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.159 break in case of emergency, well covid to continue. The 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.359 email is the Ultimate Rainy Day and I finally watched it, 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.440 and to my surprise, Johnny Fairplay is not the bumbling 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:52.720 idiot joke of a player that Survivor history seems to 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.720 paint him as he's strategically and against all odds, socially adept, 0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:00.280 and he came within Weird o' lil's last vote from 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.000 making the finals and potentially winning. Anyway, this made me 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:07.000 think about NBA comparisons that fit this Fairplay situation. What 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:11.080 present day player do you think will be historically misremembered 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:16.120 for whatever reason? Learn lots, rub your thighs sausage. That's 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.280 from Jack Coffee. Now again, Lee, before we go to 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.920 you for your answer to the actual NBA question, maybe 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:25.280 we'll go to JD or whatever one of you Johnny 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.760 Fairplay just for the person listening to this has no 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.240 idea what the hell Jack Coffee is talking about? Who 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:34.080 wants to explain very quickly who Johnny Fairplay is in 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:35.600 the Survivor canon of things. 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.399 He's the biggest heel in Survivor of history. Probably he 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:45.199 famous for what Probes calls the biggest lie in the 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:48.679 history of Survivor. I think where he had during the 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.959 loved Ones visit, he had his friend come on and 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:56.240 lie that his grandmother had passed away while Johnny was 0:23:56.280 --> 0:24:00.480 playing the game, so fake tears were had. The entire 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:05.040 tribe was was devastated for him, and then you cut 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:08.600 cut immediately to his confessions like my grandmother is watching 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.640 Jerry Springer and somewhere right right now. So he lied 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.639 about his grandmother dying to get a sympathy card, which 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:21.720 is a despicable move. But as as is pointed out, 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.399 he made it to almost the end because of that. 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.680 So you know he's he's a professional wrestler now. 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.119 I read, Yeah, And that was a thing. Like his 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:36.280 bit was very like he was like a like a manager, 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.920 like a heel wrestling manager. Really like he leaned into 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:43.000 that right from the get go, and he was pretty 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:44.280 damn good television. 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:44.639 He was. 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.800 As much as you hated him as a villain, he 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.520 was he was something else. 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.600 Yeah, then he leaned into it even more. 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.280 I feel like after that Survivor season was over, like 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.639 JDS saying, he's a professional wrestler now, and like every 0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.119 appearance he had he was trying to be more and 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:02.440 more despicable, and he had even been on his Survivor season, 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.600 so that's probably why people misremember him a little bit. 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.160 And I might be misremembering things, but when I think 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.719 back to that moment where his his buddy comes out 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.679 and they're talking about it, what a ridiculous lie that 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.399 this even worked, because he comes out and Johnny Paarripleay's like, 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:21.639 how's grandma, and his buddy just goes, She's dead, dude. Yeah, 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.399 that's how you're breaking it to a family member. 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:30.840 She's dead, dude. He had practiced that line for a week, So, Okay, 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.720 she's dead, dude. No, she's dead, dude. Drying it in 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:38.440 the mirror, Yeah she's dead. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:41.200 Johnny fair play. That's amazing. By the way, Survivor Pearl 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.480 Allen's one of the best Survivor seasons. I mean, that's 0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:48.960 where we get Rupert, right, SANDRAU. So there's there's some 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.880 legends in that season, which was early on. But anyway, 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.880 Lee present day player you think will be historically misremembered 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:56.960 for whatever reason you got. 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:58.760 Well, I think it's it has to be a polarizing 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:02.119 play as someone who really does stoke the emotions of 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.280 everybody whenever they talk about him. And that's why I'm 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.880 going with James Harden. Because James Harden's a great player. 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:08.760 He's a Hall of Famer, He's an absolute lock for that. 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:14.520 But I think with the playoff, without having a championship 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:16.840 or even being to the finals, I think people are 0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:18.400 going to sort of point at things and say, well, look, 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.080 he was great in the regular season, but he could 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.240 never deliver in the playoffs, you know, like he was 0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.959 a three time runner up MVP, a one time MVP, 0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.320 but in the playoffs things always went wrong for him. 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.640 He couldn't play with superstars, he had an ugly way 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.720 of drawing contact and shooting too many free throws. And 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.080 I think that's going to detract away from the fact 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:37.520 what he has achieved over these last seven eight years 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.560 here in Houston. He's been an incredibly consistent, reliable player 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.040 for the Rockets, always had them in the playoffs, but 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.359 he hasn't been able to sort of find that ultimate success. 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:46.720 And I think this is what we talk about a 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.560 lot of times with the player that they need that 0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.280 championship almost to sort of like just kill off all 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.040 that took because it happened with drk Novitski, I think 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.439 a lot as well. You know, got that championship and 0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.920 he got that sort of now you can't ever say Dirk, 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.040 you know, choke in the playoffs when he was on 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.120 when they lost to the We Believe Warriors, like all 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.920 that stuff kind of gets forgotten because he eventually got there. 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.760 And I think if James Harden doesn't eventually get there, 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.000 that's sort of going to I think how he's going 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:12.520 to be remembered. It's going to be a mix of 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.639 like great player, but only in the regular season, an 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.040 ugly way of scoring. You know, people just didn't People 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.480 either loved him or hated him. There's not that sort 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:22.040 of in between. 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.439 I think with him, well, this is the perfect answer 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.920 because you just proved your own point. You misremember James 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.560 Harden's career already. He made the finals. He was in 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:31.160 the finals. 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:36.640 Oh okay, yeah, but so there you go. Yeah, yeah, 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.440 I mean, obviously, okay, that's true. 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:38.880 He was there. 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:40.320 He didn't have a good finals. 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.720 But I think what I'm talking about when he's with 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:43.440 the Thunder. 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:47.000 And yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, you sort of I'm talking 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.320 pretty much his Rocket's career is what he's going to 0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.200 be remembered for. People are going to try to forget 0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.399 the thunder stuff there, But you know, I mean, and 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.600 I am someone who finds him frustrating to watch, but 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.960 I always try to respectfully show that he is incredible. 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.520 How we can go out there and get forty or 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.520 fifty points pretty much whenever he wants. It's just the 0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.879 way that he goes about it is not always I 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.640 catching okay tass, anyone coming to mind? 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.600 Oh yeah, I'm gonna jump around. I think tim ifay 0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.919 Mosgov will be remembered as the guy dunked on by Blake, 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:23.000 but also forgetting a monster contract during the Capspike twenty sixteen, 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.719 one of those Yeah, there's a lot of those guys. 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.240 Yeah on Mahimi, But but I think he'll be remembering that. 0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.680 Miami's Kelly Olinok will be remembered for yank and Kevin 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:36.160 Love shoulder out of his socket in the twenty fifteen 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:41.160 playoffs when Lebron couldn't win a championship because of timifay Mosgov, 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.400 Yank initial and Kyrie Gotterer. But I killed, Actually, timofay 0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:50.000 Mosgov should thank Kelly Olinok for yanking Kevin loved shoulder 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.680 because then timofay mosgov went on to star in the finals. 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:54.440 He was their second best player in those finals. He 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.640 was putting like, what do you average like twenty something 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.960 in those in those finals in twenty fifteen, and then 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:00.000 he got paid the year later. 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:00.480 For sure. 0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.080 Yeah, he was the agent twenty. 0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:03.680 I don't think he averaged twenty, but I think he 0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:04.840 hit twenty maybe. 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.120 Yeah, maybe has some big games. 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:10.040 Yeah, they're just letting him a roll and a quick one. 0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.560 I think Enniscancer will be remembered for a guy as 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:17.640 a guy who talked a lot. That's it. But I 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.280 like Ednis cancer. He's fighting the good fight, but he 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.680 hasn't stopped talkings for entire career. 0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:25.680 Trey, who you got? 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.440 It's funny you mentioned Tim and fay Mosgoff because mine 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.040 is Blake Griffin. He was like the best thing to 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.800 watch in the league for his his sort of rookie year. 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.320 Remember he missed his first year with the kneecap problem, 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.040 and then he was instantly twenty two and twelve Duncan 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.760 on guys like mosgoth it seemed like a highlight every night. 0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.440 I would even argue that the Kawhi Leonard Paul George 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.120 era of the Clippers isn't possible with Blake Griffin going 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:51.920 to the Clippers, right, He put him on the map. 0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.080 He made the team not a joke anymore. He made 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.840 it a place that Chris Paul would actually accept a 0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.040 trade to play with the Clippers, and that turned the 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.520 franchise around the not a joke for the first time 0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:05.200 in franchise history. And it's all because they won that 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:06.760 lottery and got to draft Blake Griffin. 0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:11.000 Number one good answers I'll go with. You know, obviously 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.320 present day player Rudy Gobert is going to be a 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.880 fascinating guy to see how he'll be remembered. What will 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.160 be the first thing people will bring up with Rudy 0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.680 Gobert twenty years from now? It might be COVID related, honestly, 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.160 And that might be despite having obviously defensive player of 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:28.760 the years, who knows that he wins a title, who 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.440 all start selections, all MBA and all that. But that 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.479 will probably be at the forefront of the first thing 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:38.120 you're gonna remember with Rudy, And and the other part 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.120 was like before that, it was like, oh yeah, it 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.240 was that that guy that was upset about not making 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:43.960 the All Star team and all that. Like he has 0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:47.000 like these unfortunate sort of like dings on his like 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.120 career that people like go to immediately instead of like, 0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.120 oh my god, that guy was a game changer defensively, 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.560 especially on good teams. But he's gonna he's just gonna 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.640 have that. And we've talked about it before. That's no 0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.959 knock on him. If anything, he probably started he actually 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.640 maybe saved lives for crying out out for all we know, 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.640 actually being patient zero and I throw that in air 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.000 quotes and shutting down the league and obviously people taking 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.600 things a little more seriously with the virus. 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:14.840 So Rudy Gobert is my answer, all right, next email, hey, 0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.600 pulling up from three instead. I was lucky enough to 0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:21.200 find someone new during this pandemic. It was a strange 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.560 experience early on in the relationship with all that's been 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.280 going on in the country, social distancing and the inability 0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.760 to go on traditional dates. That made us be creative 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.080 about seeing each other, but we made it work. I'm 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.320 happy and proud to say she's an amazing person and 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.040 for the sake of basketball talk, she's been a hell 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.160 of a teammate thus far in my life. But I 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.720 would be remiss if I didn't mention that during this time, 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.000 a couple of exes have reached out to me in 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.360 hopes of rekindling old flames. 0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.320 Ooh, this guy. 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.080 Maybe it's out of boredom or their new team isn't 0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.360 doing all that well. I love who I'm with and 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.240 I'm not about that. Double life got me thinking which 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.560 NBA player had a decent or memorable second run with 0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:09.080 a former team? Does sound like this guy is is 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:14.840 thinking about Rick. I was too broke to buy tickets 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.840 when you guys came to Chicago, but an email read 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.600 on beach stepping would make up for that. Well, here 0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.160 you go, Eddie, Love you guys. Keep up the great work, 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.520 Eddie and Skokey Illinois. What do you got, Gokey? 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.960 Where's Skokey? T You're near Skokey right now. 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.960 I'm not too near Skrokey. It's north of Chicago, home 0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:35.720 of abdul Nader. Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I gotta 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.400 get I gotta take my hat off to Eddie. It 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.440 sounds like the man is a casanova when it comes 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:44.920 to texting. Not only did he get a partner during 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.240 the pandemic. He's had people reaching out to him saying, 0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.960 can we partner up again? The guy just mails me 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:51.200 fire with emojis. 0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.080 Yeah's But see, that is sometimes the issue with some 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.480 people out there, men and women. Right, some people are 0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:01.000 like their money when it comes to just communication through 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.440 texting or you know, any sort of like dating app 0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.520 or whatever. Instagram comments like whatever, you know, and then 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.240 and then maybe they don't have it in person, right, 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:10.920 You gotta be able to bring it in person at 0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.640 some point with these people. But look, yeah, he's knocking 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.240 it out of the park when it comes to doing 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:17.080 this type of community. 0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.000 I assume he was facetiming big time. 0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.640 Oh maybe, yeah, maybe maybe how you do. 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.800 Facet tamming was so hot in March and April and 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:26.680 then it sort of died down when people are like, Okay, 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:27.720 let's go back to normal. 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.320 Yeah, well, Lee, what do you you got an answer 0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:31.480 for that? 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.440 Well, I'm going to take two names off the table 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.560 because they kind of stand out, And that's Lebron going 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.320 back to Cleveland, obviously he returned, and Steve Nash going 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.240 back to Phoenix. He had a pretty good return there, 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:41.080 picking up a couple song. 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:41.720 I dug a. 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:43.880 Little deeper for this question for a guy sort of 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:45.960 later in his career, and I think it's Jason Kidd 0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.720 when he returned to the Dallas Mavericks, because obviously that's 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.840 the team he was drafted by, started out there, he 0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.840 played two or three seasons there and Dallas things didn't 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.400 really work out, and then when he came back, he 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.520 was certainly not the same player he was when he left, 0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.000 but he had changed his game. Remember he's basically just 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.880 shooting threes for the Mavericks, and he was a very 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.479 important part of them winning the championship. So he actually 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.600 came back and was more than just a sort of token, like, 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:10.560 you know, this is the end of your career, come 0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.239 back to the team where it all started. He went on, 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.080 came back, was a key part of a team that 0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.080 won the championship, and then he moved on again. So 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:18.479 I think he was one of the ones who had 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:23.279 probably the most most successful return that wasn't someone like 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.399 a Lebron or Nash who was still in their prime years. 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:29.560 It's a good answer, family few good answer. Good answer 0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:31.439 was throwing on the bar. Throw it on the board. 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:33.920 Jason Kidd, Jason Kid as well. 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:34.719 I was surprised. 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.520 I had definitely forgotten that he was an All Star again. 0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:40.640 When he came back to the Mavericks the season before 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.799 they won a championship. You know, he was ten points 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:44.959 a game, no big deal, but nine assists. That's easy 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.320 stuff for Jason Kidd, just adding to the resume. 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.919 Yeah, what about current day player then? Who could pull 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.480 off a Jason Kidd? What about Dwight Howard with the Lakers. 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.400 I mean, like you forget that that did not go 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:00.480 well the first time Toys with the Lake. I mean, 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.960 he just got laughed out of the franchise, basic leader 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.359 of the city. Now he's back somewhat of an instrumental part, 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.680 has played really well, sort of rehabilitated his image to 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.520 some extent. And if they went on to win a title, 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.200 bubble or not, and he was playing well and was involved, 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.960 I think he'd be like similar to Kid right, obviously 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.719 being a Hall of Famer, but just having much more 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.040 success in his second round with the same team. That's 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:26.200 my answer. Dwight Hour. 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.000 I went the other route. He also Eddie also asked 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:36.040 a memorable second run with the former team. I'll go 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.400 with Hidok Turgulho going back to Orlando after signing that 0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.560 monster deal with Toronto, after going to the finals with 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.640 Dwight Howard. Toronto said this is not good. Trade into Phoenix. 0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.560 Phoenix after half a season said this is not good. 0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.920 And Orlando said, well, you know, he was good for us, 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.319 We'll take him back. And he was way worse and 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.759 he was making way more money than he was when 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.239 he took him to the finals or played along with Dwight. 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.160 Was there sort of their point guard that playoffs. So 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.960 that was memorable in a very very bad way. You know, 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:08.719 he'd a peaked and then he valied pretty quick at 0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.080 Kevin Garnett. I it was a nice moment or nice 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.040 times when he went back to Minnesota at the end 0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:15.839 of his career there for a couple of years and 0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.279 that super fan with the no shirt, whoever that guy 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:23.239 was in Minnesota, Jigly boy, Yeah, Jigly that was fun. 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.160 I'll u just because it'll be the second time he's 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.880 been mentioned on this podcast, which is weird. Tim Hardaway 0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.880 Junior for a lesser known guy going back to the Knicks, 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.520 I mean he got paid and usually had a pretty 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.279 good year with him when he went back in terms 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.160 of scoring at least, I mean, that's really what he's 0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.840 going to give you. But started a rookie with the Knicks. 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.400 I think he made an All rookie team, was fine. 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.920 Then goes to the Hawks and had a really bad year, 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.080 and then had a bounce back year, and then again 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.600 got signed by the Knicks. Eventually got traded and all that. 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.160 But he played well when he was there for a 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.600 lowly Knicks team. And you know, that's why I started 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.000 to fall in love with the idea of Tim Harday 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.760 Junior could go for fifty in one game, and he floirated. 0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:04.840 He floated a couple of times. 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.239 Oh, there was a lot of tweets coming at me 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.640 some first halfs where Tim Hardaway had, you know, twenty 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.160 eight or thirty or whatever. He always would chill out 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.080 as the game went on. But yeah, it's a little 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.440 bounce back. Anyone else, any other answers right here? 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:19.920 Let me drop hold on, let me drop in. Tim 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.800 I fan Moscov didn't average anywhere close to twenty points 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.440 in the NBA Finals in twenty fifteen, but he had 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.040 a twenty eight pointer, seventeen point or sixteen point or 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:32.040 seventeen pointer and then David Blatt decided one game, you 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.799 know what, this isn't working. Let's get him out of here. 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:36.600 Let's get him out of here. 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She already 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.479 got done talking about how much fun yurt is to say, 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.960 if you can, if your products work in a stinky yurt, 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:30.239 your money made all right. Next one here, boys. It 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.240 was awesome to see Skeets and Trey tweeting about Formula 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.080 one the other weekend. Like you guys have gotten into 0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.480 F one recently, and I've been completely absorbed by not 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.840 only the racing, but also the politics and drama surrounding 0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:46.200 the sport. It's kind of reality TV show of twenty 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.239 contestants mixed with a sport. Anyway, I've been so consumed 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.920 that I lost pretty much all interest in the NBA, 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.440 apart from listening to Your Guys podcast. Is there something 0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.120 you guys also fell out of love with despite being 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.960 completely obsessed with with at some point in your life? 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.000 Did you regain your interest? Thanks for the pods. That's 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.880 from Issuru. I see Ru. I'm not sure how you 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.319 pronounce that. It's a cool name. I you are you? 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.279 I see rou Is Surou. Yeah, f one tray You're 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.000 all into it, but has got some answers for this guy. 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:17.640 Yeah. 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.320 Back to back races at the same track. Pretty crazy 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.279 way to start the season. We got another one coming 0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:22.960 up in Hungary. 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:23.600 Tune in. 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.920 It's been an eventful start. That first race though, it 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:27.279 was good. 0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:28.600 Yeah, But for. 0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.520 Me, something I've been obsessed with that I fell away 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.880 from that. I now really want to get back into 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:38.719 seeing all these bubble life videos of players fishing. Every 0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.160 time I come back to Illinois in the summer, we 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.160 go fishing anyways, but this time I'm thinking I got 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.279 to bring my polls and tackle boxes back home. I 0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:49.000 know there's places in Georgia to go fishing. It was 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.720 so much fun. I used to be so obsessed spending 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.600 hours watching like the bass Master Classic on ESPN or 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:59.040 a Banjo Mino info mercial. I'm reading Field and Stream 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.200 magazine and The Fishermen to learn the best crank baits 0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.280 in the game. But then, you know, I didn't fish 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.759 for like twenty years until I had kids, and I said, 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.319 you guys got to learn how to pull a bass 0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.440 up out of this lake. So I'm getting back into fishing. 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:16.000 It's a great leisure activity. I mean, there's a lot 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.880 of space in a yurt to keep your tackle, so 0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.359 if you're out a yurt, you better have a fishing pole. 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.959 I said something similar to though big was yesterday. I said, 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.360 between watching all of these videos of these guys in 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:33.280 the bubble fishing and then watching seasons of the reality 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.120 show Alone where these people need to fish to survive, 0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.759 I have not consumed this much fishing content since we 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.520 found out about Bill Dance and a Bloopers, I haven't. 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:47.319 I just can't believe how much fishing content I'm into too. 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.560 I'm sort of intrigued by it all. So that's a 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.840 good one. Lee, Are you a fisherman, you like a 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:53.800 cast in your reel. 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.440 We did a little bit of fishing at An, Alabama 0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.360 a few weeks ago. Yeah, caughte nothing and it was 0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:00.480 the same, like it was just laded. You start with 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.480 fish and we couldn't get anything. My eight year old 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.440 got a nibble and he yanked too quickly he put 0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:06.719 it in and he didn't get it. And kids, you know, 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:08.480 if you're going fishing with a kid, if you don't 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.520 get a bite within thirty seconds, La, what the hell 0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:12.560 is this? This is boring as anything, you know, So 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.000 how we couldn't get it. The guy was really apologetic 0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:17.080 to's like sorry, I mean there's so many fishing that 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:21.480 I don't know you can't get We were usually he 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.480 had little hot dog like little pieces of hot dog. 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:29.120 He said, this is a vegan finish, but that was 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.719 the thing. He cast out a couple more times, Sebastian, 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.839 and they just kept taking the bait and not coming 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.480 in and he was not happy, not happy at all. 0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.759 So yeah, but it's funny though talking about formula one 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.239 because I used to really follow it back in the 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.160 day when I lived in England, because it's great in Europe. 0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.040 It's such a huge event in Europe, and in North 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.880 America it's still kind of picking up. And I remember 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.600 the nineteen ninety nine season was Michael Schumacher, I think 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.080 it might have been his first season at Ferrari, and 0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.080 he was obviously their number one driver, their favorite, and 0:42:58.080 --> 0:42:59.920 you know, they have blatant like you're our number one, 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.279 you're our number two, and they don't want the number 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:04.920 two guy taking over. But the number two Ferrari was 0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.880 Eddie Irvine. And what happened was Michael Schumacher broke his 0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:12.040 leg halfway through the season, and Eddie Irvine obviously came 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.560 their number one driver and he lost the driver's championship 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:16.360 to Mika Hackenham by like two points. But it was 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.600 a really exciting race to the end there because the 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.279 Ferrari obviously would have loved to win, but it wasn't 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.920 there guy winning. So there was this weird sort of 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:26.600 like Eddie's like, I'm trying to win this thing, and 0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.879 Ferrari's like it's not good if Schumacher doesn't win, even 0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:31.799 if he's broken his leg, you know, like and he 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:35.320 can't race, So there was the storyline of like Eddie 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:38.200 going basically against Ferrari even though Ferrari were kind of 0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:39.960 pulling for him because that no one else and he 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:41.000 nearly did it in the end. 0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.960 But well, that's exactly what this email is all about. 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.760 It there is so much time, yeah, politics and drama 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.920 within this racing world and like, oh yeah, they're also racing, 0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:51.920 you know, you know Coors. 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.919 And well Schumacher is such a funny one too, because 0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:55.600 in his early days when he was at Benetton, he 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:56.920 won out a couple of years in a row, and 0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.279 then I think it was ninety six when he was 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:04.399 trying to win in the last race Damon Hill off 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:07.600 the road to or he tried to and it didn't 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.880 work and a backfight on him. Then Shoemackers just like, nah, 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.040 I didn't do that. But you know these drivers, they're 0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.319 incredibly skillful. So for a guy to be driving along 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:16.160 then just like ram into the other guy and then 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.440 deny it was hilarious. Yeah, it's I want to get 0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.880 back into seeing you guys tweeting about it. It's it 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.440 is fun. It's a really you've got to you've really 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.000 got to invest in the whole season, though. I think 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:27.360 you can't sort of just pick it up late. You 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:29.480 gotta you've got to sort of see the storylines of 0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:30.839 how it builds up throughout the year. 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:32.640 I mean, I can't speak for Tree. I think he's 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.040 similar to me, Like we really got hooked when we 0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.200 watched the actual reality show that they need surrounding the 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.680 f one season Drive to Survive. It's on Netflix. There's 0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.719 two seasons now, Ray Tree, I think, up, yeah, that's right, 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.520 and it's like, I mean, you talk about drama like 0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:49.560 it's obviously edited incredibly well and they're giving you all 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.520 the stories, the juicy like oh, this guy's battling this guy, 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:54.080 this guy's beef with this guy, this guy's going to 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:55.960 move to this team, and all that. But it's amazing. 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.879 Highly highly recommend Drive to Survive if you haven't watched 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:00.880 it already. Is it a movie a series? It's a 0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.239 serious like a horror series. But you will be I 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:05.320 think you'll get hooked. 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.839 Yeah, well, see that. We used to have a Grand 0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.560 Prix in Melbourne too. That was the first one of 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.520 the season and it was one of those in city tracks, 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.400 so they had to block off streets like in a 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.200 couple of weeks leading up to it, and that was 0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.600 beautifully flat. But you could tell when it was Grand 0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.239 Prix was nearby in Melbourn because everyone was in their 0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:23.960 cars just ripping around the streets. 0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.440 Everyone just like everywhere they go. 0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.520 And before they closed off those streets around the other part, 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.160 like cops used to get everyone just speeding by because 0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:37.520 the road was so perfectly smooth and everyone's like, hey, 0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.240 I'm a Formula One driver, right. 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.440 Right, right, gotta be careful out there. What about you, tak. 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.759 It wasn't Michael Schumacher the highest paid athlete in the 0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:47.040 world for a time. 0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:50.279 Like probably yeah, yeah, when I moved to Ferrari, he 0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:51.240 probably was, yeah. 0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.480 Around like I think it was like back then it 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:55.399 was a lot and what it was like twenty five 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.359 or thirty a year or something like that. 0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:00.880 So, like Lewis Hamilton is at this point now challenging 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:02.840 a lot of Schumacher's records, right, So. 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.560 I think Hamilton's a six time champion. Chewey was a 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:06.480 seven time champ. 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:11.239 Shuey, Sue Jeey. It's great to get some Huey Louie. 0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.919 Good to hear Mika hacking in again. Hacking a loop 0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:19.280 over here, Mika kippers off and a loop I I'll 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:24.200 jump in here. Sticking with sports baseball For me, it's 0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.640 you know, I just I just ate it up. But 0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:31.520 I can't stand a labor dispute. So after the ninety 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.680 three season, uh Jays went back to back. I was 0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:36.600 a wee lad. I was enjoying. I was that was 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.520 my sport for sure. But then ninety four it could 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.280 have we could have had a Blue Jays Expos World 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:46.160 Series if there wasn't a strike, and then I'd had enough. 0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:47.960 I think, well, then the Raptors came to town. So 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:49.120 things changed for me. 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.120 But you, but you, you're holding on to your love 0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.240 of baseball because you're you're always good for like sharing 0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.600 a nice baseball tweet. I think you just shared one. 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.640 You're like, uh, what what was that Jay's game that 0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.280 clipped you shared? Was it like just a practice basically? 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:06.080 Yeah. I think they're doing a little inner squad because 0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:09.000 nobody in Toronto. This is their spring training two point 0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:13.080 zero right now, and they're having uh they're having these games, 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.279 you know, within their teams and no fans in the 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:19.240 stands obviously, and I could you could just hear the 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.520 thwack of the bat. Maybe it's Bobachette's bat, just like 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:26.000 Dad Dante used to do it. But that thing was loud. 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:27.960 It was a loud back clip. Yeah, I watched it. 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:29.759 I watched that clip only because you shared it. I 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.400 was like, holy, that was a sweet crack at the bat. 0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.239 It was almost almost a thwack, some would say, as 0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:40.839 Dave Deforre said, and uh, actually I didn't. I'd seen 0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.840 this going around Blue Jay's Twitter. But they call the 0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:46.160 big the big sound, the big thwack of the bat 0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:50.120 they call they have a hashtag placata I guess because 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:51.759 it makes that sound like p l a k A 0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.160 t A. If you see that hashtagging around, it's because 0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:57.920 the J's are thwacking. And yeah, that was that was 0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:01.160 bobah yesterday, first pitch of the Inner Squad game. It's 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:04.640 just so weird. Though they're in Toronto. I don't even 0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:06.360 know if it's clear whether or not they're going to 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:09.400 stay in Toronto, because that hasn't been cleared, like our 0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:13.040 team's gonna fly there because of the the US Canada thing. 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.000 There's it's just baseball is weird. 0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:16.080 Weird. 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:17.200 Baseball is very weird. 0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.719 My answer is very similar to all what you guys 0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:21.480 are saying. It's just all these other sports. I used 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:23.720 to be a diehard baseball fan, like task was talking about. 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:27.160 Same with football, the NFL, you know, Big Bills fan, 0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.359 and even hockey when I was much much younger. So 0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.360 it's like, you know, it just I still like the sports. 0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:36.560 I'll still watch them occasionally, but I'm not, you know, 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:40.359 obsessed with them by any means. And that's fine. You know, 0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.680 our love is basketball, our true love. Jady, do you 0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:45.840 have a different answer because we're all answering sports here. 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:46.640 Do you get anything else? 0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:50.799 Yeah, I guess the most obvious answer is music. For me, 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.120 I was in a bands and stuff from the age 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.160 of fourteen to the age of thirty, and then I 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.600 walked away in age I never looked back. 0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.759 Did you just set down your drumsticks like you were 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:05.680 like Undertaker taking off his gloves and his hat in 0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:07.000 the right. 0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:11.080 I don't understand that reference, but probably, but. 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:12.960 You said you just walked away. That's why I picture it, 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:16.480 like you played the perfect set and then like your 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.480 drums exploded and you just sat down your drumsticks. 0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:23.040 All these bosketball movies that we've been doing for film review. Jeddy, 0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:25.080 I think there's one here with you with a music review. 0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.880 You know, maybe one of your kids. So someone you 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.520 know picks up that drum, the drum sticks and starts playing, 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:32.680 and all of a sudden, it just pools you back 0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:34.960 in there. You want to teach and pass on the 0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:36.640 wisdom of your experience. 0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.399 That could happen. Well, Yeah, the thing is that I 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:43.279 started when I started playing the drums, it wasn't I 0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:44.160 wasn't a drummer. 0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:44.960 I was. 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:47.759 I kind of dicked around on the guitar and the 0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:50.560 bass and the drums. But every band that I was 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.640 in needed a drummer so and I was best at that. 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:57.200 So I was just behind the drums the whole time, 0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:59.160 where you don't have enough control. 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.040 I don't know if you got as have been keeping 0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.840 up on your guitar and piano practicing, but it sounds 0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:05.239 like you could use a drummer as well. 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:07.280 We could. 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:11.120 I could also learn how to play the guitar first. 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:14.240 I feel like tastes ahead of me and his keyboard skills. 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:16.880 Yeah, I got it. I got it a quick. Little 0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:18.719 Mary had a little lamb for you. If you're in. 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:22.279 I'd like to see you battle. This could be like 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:24.400 a little dueling piano as we could make it a podcast. 0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:28.200 My buddy Grish has a keyboard too, now, Tess. He's 0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:30.000 putting in the work. He's got nothing else to do. 0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:32.719 I don't know. I'm just saying, maybe he's ahead of 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:33.960 you already. I don't know. 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:36.000 Let's do it. 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:36.880 Let's do it. 0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:42.320 Splet's screen zoom, my buddy Grish dropping some ish. 0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:43.839 I got nothing, all right? 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:46.520 Moving on any other answers to that one? 0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:48.279 No, no, no, I was just gonna say, I'm just like 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.920 saddened now because from JD's story, I'm picturing like the 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:53.960 way you made it sound is like you actually want 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.719 to be the lead guitarist. You want to be, you know, 0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.960 the lead singer, and like you're almost just like you're 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.239 forced to play the drums. He's just sitting there for 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:06.000 sixteen years banging away. That should have been me. 0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:10.000 Yeah, well, you know, I can't sing, so that's a problem. 0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:11.840 So that was part of. 0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:16.520 The problem, you know. Okay, Yeah, and he got Jackson 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:22.640 Jackson riding your riding your wings, isn't He's He's. 0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:26.160 Well surpassed me. He's like so much better than I 0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.040 am so much better. He's like, he's up there doing 0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:32.480 the pretty shuffles. He's playing Tom Sawyer for Cranout. 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:33.799 Lad. He's good. 0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:36.000 He's legit good. And I'm not just saying that because 0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:36.600 he's my kid. 0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:42.000 Awesome, all right, next email here Last week as task dropped, 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.120 he had another great pun Yeah I did about his 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:49.520 Royal Poison Ivy situation going on. Yeah, Royal Ivy a 0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:54.200 journeyman point guard in the league. Great, great name. I 0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.600 thought my interactions with him years ago. This guy had 0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.680 an interaction with Royal Ivy. I was fortunate enough to 0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.000 sit courtside at Jazz games occasionally, and it became my 0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.440 game within a game to try and get something from 0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:07.759 a player on the opposing team because of where my 0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:11.080 seats were. Royale was a super nice guy, talked to 0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:13.000 me throughout the game, and I ended up getting his 0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.839 shoes after the final buzzer. I was on a date, 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.319 so I felt an obligation to give her one of 0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:21.840 the shoes as a keepsake. I regret this decision twelve 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:25.040 years later and wonder what she ever did with it, 0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:30.160 and wish I had the other shoe to display. 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:38.200 To display Royale Ivy shoes weare in the garbage. 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:44.240 Yeah, twelve years, she's probably not displaying that one shoe 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:48.560 thinking I wish I had that guy's shoe. I mean 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.880 you can call her. I'm sure you could find her number. 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.120 Do any of you guys have regrets or a keepsake 0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:55.880 that you wish you still had? Thanks for all the 0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:58.880 amazing content and lasses from a long time fan, Wes 0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:04.319 Mangum in Utah. I mean, I'm not I don't really 0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:06.439 care to display shoes, but we had them on our set. 0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:09.240 On the starters. We had a an Andrew Wiggans shoe 0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:11.919 up there. We had some other shoes up there. 0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:15.160 It's wait, who is the big Do we have a 0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:16.040 map bond or shoe him? 0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:17.680 Or no, you did have a map bond. 0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:22.880 Yeah, there was another one too. It was at brad Miller. 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:24.160 It was a couple of We had a couple of 0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:26.640 pair of brad Miller's shoes on. So, I mean, if 0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:28.800 you guys are missing those, we get I think. 0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:30.120 I think I got four of them. If we each 0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:31.320 want to go one shoe. 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:32.799 Nice. 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:38.120 So as far as the question any regrets or keep 0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:41.040 say you wish you still had? Just thinking about baseball, 0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:42.960 I still wish I had a couple of bats that 0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:44.719 I had when I was a kid. I wish I 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.960 just had my slammer. I had a nice little toothpick 0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:50.960 wood one, just to have a round. It's nice to 0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:54.120 grip and rip occasionally, just to have it if you ever, 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:55.960 you know there's a burglar around, if you ever need 0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.680 to take care of business. It's just it's just good 0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:02.520 to have a bat. They come in handy, metal, wood, 0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:05.719 doesn't matter. It's nice to just fire out, like you know, 0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:08.279 it's nice to I just like swinging the feeling of 0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:11.520 swinging a bat. And I don't really like the whiffle 0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:13.000 ball situation. 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.360 Not as fun like you like some weight. 0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:17.120 Yeah, give me a thirty ouncer. 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:22.239 God, I would love to throw around a baseball right now, seriously, 0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:24.320 just you talking about that. I was like, yeah, I 0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:26.959 would love to chuck around a baseball. That's fun too. 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:32.319 I don't even have a glove anymore. Brutal, brutal, I'll 0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:34.279 go next, Yeah, keepsake, I wish I still had I 0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:35.759 don't know if I really wish I still had it, 0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:37.600 because I don't like to hold onto things all that much. 0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:41.799 I just I just don't like things that just sit 0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:44.560 in boxes or just have no point. Really. I mean, 0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:49.200 I know they have sentimental point or something, but it'd 0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:52.040 probably be a boomerang from Australia. Lee, I did buy 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:54.120 a boomerang at one point in Australia. I think you're 0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:57.399 everyone does you have to? Yeah, and I definitely did 0:54:57.440 --> 0:54:59.480 when I lived there, and I had it for a while. 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.239 I have you know, years ago. Now, I must have 0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.840 been like, why do I have this? Bye? And I 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:06.520 just threw it. See I just threw it, but I 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:10.360 threw it incorrectly, so it never came back. But I 0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.320 guess I wish I still had it. I don't know 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:13.560 what I would really do with it. I got this 0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:16.239 big shelf now beside me here, you can't you guys 0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.480 can sort of see it. I have almost nothing on it, 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:21.719 So maybe it would have gone there because we've you know, 0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:24.680 recently moved into our house and this room is the 0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:27.120 last one to get taken care of. But a boomerang, 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:28.840 I wish I kept it. League Do you know anyone 0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:30.960 that can hook me up with an authentic boomerang? It 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:31.640 was authentic? 0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:33.840 Well, yeah, you can actually get one here in Atlanta 0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:35.840 at the Australian bikery cafe. I know you've got a 0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:38.040 couple of therev Yeah. Yeah. He had even had a 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:41.840 couple of digitides there too one time. So yeah, I. 0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:46.280 Never wanted that because the people that bought those traveling 0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:50.120 around with one of those, no thanks. 0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:55.600 Yeah. It's funny though, you talked about like the boomerang, 0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:58.480 because when I went to Australia one time with I 0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:02.040 only went back to like ten days. It was sixtieth birthday, 0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:03.239 I think it was. So I went up to Wears 0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:05.759 Rock to climb Air's Rock, and I bought this, you know, 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.440 the classic Australian like a kubra hat, and I thought, 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:12.560 I'm gonna wear that around and it's incredibly comfortable. It's 0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:14.880 really comfortable, and it's really good at keeping you like 0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:17.400 from not getting too hot while having a nice cool 0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:19.879 hat on. And so I took that back to Europe 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:21.360 and I took it around the Middle East. And I 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:24.080 went around the Middle East that year and it was 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:27.319 stinking hot, like forty eight degrees celsius in Egypt, and 0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:29.960 this hat was incredible. Now I started sweating in it 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.799 a lot, right, So eventually, I think at the end 0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:34.640 of the trip I just chucked it out, and I'm like, 0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:37.040 I wish I kept that. Actually, yeah, I mean I 0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:38.520 can easily buy a new one, but that was the 0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:40.560 one that had been through some battles with me, you know, 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:42.560 it had been some places, and I'm like, I wish 0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:44.319 I just didn't throw that out. That was really nice 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.040 and comfortable. Now think about it again, we're in the 0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.040 middle of the stink and hot here in Atlanta. 0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:48.920 I might go to the. 0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:50.680 Australian Bakery cafe and see if he's got one of 0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:52.520 those two buy one, because I need one. 0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:56.440 Everything Australian in this not everything, But he's got buy 0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:59.040 a kangaroo from this game. You can buy kangaroo meat. 0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:03.160 I think, yeah, he's got a few other those little 0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:06.080 you know, things like that that people want, want souvenese. 0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:08.080 So yeah, I'm check it out. Tell you how to 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:10.319 nith pick up some paws and Lemington's while you're there. 0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:13.359 Sounds delicious. What do you got here for this one tray? 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.800 I struggled with this because for me, this is like 0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:19.760 an in the moment thing where I will remember like 0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:23.080 a ridiculous item of clothing that was no longer useful 0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:25.400 in my house and eventually went to the thrift store. 0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:27.959 But in that moment, I'm like, man, I really wish 0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:31.080 I'd saved that terry cloth t shirt, you know, like, like, 0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:32.680 why do I need a shirt that's made out of 0:57:32.720 --> 0:57:33.160 a towel? 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:35.640 Only for one day? Could I want it? But that 0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:38.400 one day, I'm like, why in the world would I 0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:39.400 get that out of my house? 0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:40.000 I need it? 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:45.080 Now give me my terry cloth. What about you? 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:49.040 Yeah, no regrets and no nothing. I don't keep anything 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:51.040 and I don't regret not keeping anything. 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:53.760 Really, you're you're similar to me in that in that sense, 0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:55.760 you don't hold on to things all that much. 0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:58.960 Yeah, it's really the same. Same with Trey. I really 0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:01.400 struggled with this. I could think of a single thing 0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:06.800 that I wish I still had. Wow, like nothing, there's nothing. 0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:09.960 Not even those drumsticks, drums. 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:11.880 Especially the drumsticks. 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:14.800 Well, let me, is your wife the opposite of you? 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:15.200 JD? 0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:18.960 Like, does she like to, you know, keep things that have, 0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:21.880 you know, sentimental attachment to them or not? Really? 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:24.200 She likes to horde things, but I don't know that 0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:30.800 it's sentimental half things out? Yeah exactly, Yeah, not really. 0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:33.520 I mean she she suspected she was looking at her 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:37.400 engagement ring, and she suspected that they made there may 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:39.160 be a blood diamond in it. So she took it 0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:43.440 off like this was this was years ago, and and 0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:45.160 and which was fine. I mean she bought it. I 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:47.200 didn't buy it. It was she bought it for herself. 0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.760 That's how sentimental I am. And so I had a 0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:53.120 wedding band. I'm like, well, you're not gonna wear wear yours. 0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:54.760 I'm not gonna wear mine. So I took mine off 0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:56.640 and I haven't seen it since. I have no idea 0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:59.600 where that wedding ring is. I think a guy donated 0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:00.680 to a good well or something. 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:02.000 Wow. 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:04.520 Well, when I go back for my terry cloth, t 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:06.920 sher jewelry section as well. 0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:11.400 Sit next one here, what's up? No Dunk's Crew. Recently, 0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:16.400 I've noticed two references to Keith van Horn on the podcast, 0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:19.360 once on the pod with NBA Jam author ray On 0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:22.560 Ali and the other with Cha Serano, who on the 0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:25.400 Who Wants Some Trivia podcasts. When I was six or seven, 0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:28.720 I loved Keith van Horn because he played for my 0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:33.560 hometown team, the seventy six ers, but also childishly because 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.640 we share the same first name. So my question is 0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:38.760 have you ever liked a player for a really trivial 0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:43.280 or stupid reason? If so, who your tup? Love you guys, possum. 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:48.360 That's from Keith r fun question. Yeah, we have talked 0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.280 to Oddlee a lot about Keith van Horn over the 0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.320 last couple of weeks on the podcast what do You Got, Trey. 0:59:52.520 --> 0:59:55.080 We're gonna keep talking about Keith van Horn because he 0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:58.600 is my answer, along with his Nets teammate Carrie Kittles, 0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:01.160 because they had tass. You know, they had that great 1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:05.040 series against the Bulls in nineteen ninety eight, so they 1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.640 seemed like a team on the rise. Their socks certainly 1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:10.080 were on the rise. Jordan retired after that, so the 1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:12.960 Nets became my second favorite team just because they had 1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:14.840 two guys would pull their socks up to their knees. 1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:16.440 So for me, like seventh and. 1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:18.919 Eighth grade, I'm running out there with you know, our 1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:22.240 nineteen seventies uniforms handed down from the high school. I 1:00:22.240 --> 1:00:24.680 got the bike shorts sticking out and my socks pulled 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:25.680 all the way up to my legs. 1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:26.920 I'm only showing kneecaps. 1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:31.720 I think you weren't alone in that that that you know, 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:34.560 fashion fat or whatever you want to call it. People were. 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:37.400 Kittles is even more of a legend because when he 1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:39.800 was playing at Villanova, he would go one sock up 1:00:39.800 --> 1:00:43.000 and one sock down. Seemed unbelievable that somebody could actually 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:44.920 do that. I don't know if it was actually allowed 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:48.400 for him in the NBA. So he eventually switched to 1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:51.320 the two socks up look but a money look. 1:00:51.240 --> 1:00:51.640 No doubt. 1:00:52.440 --> 1:00:54.400 Keith Van Horn, what do you got Lee? 1:00:54.960 --> 1:00:57.280 Well, I don't even really remember how it started, but 1:00:57.760 --> 1:01:00.680 the Kyle Kolova kisses really turned me to just a 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:03.440 super fan of Kyle Korva. Like before he joined the Hawks. 1:01:03.880 --> 1:01:05.880 You know, I didn't dislike him or anything, but I 1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:06.640 didn't love him. 1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:07.120 But then it. 1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:09.800 Became to the point where I was like, Keith van 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:12.120 Kyle Korva has to be an All Star in twenty 1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:14.560 fifteen or whatever it was twenty sixteen maybe, and he 1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:16.280 was and he turned into an All Star and it's like, 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:18.440 oh my god, he's made it and now and then 1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:20.360 I did that shootout with him as well for the show, 1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:22.080 and I just sort of all of a sudden went 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:24.520 from like, yeah, he's a you know, he's an Ashton 1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:27.120 Kutcher looking guy who can shoot threes into like Kyle 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:29.560 Korva is my favorite player of all time. 1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:34.160 Wow, you you created the corvera kisses? Did you? Yeah? 1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:36.360 But how I don't know, I mean do we just 1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:38.440 like it must have been down at the Fortress one 1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:40.920 night and it was just that I guess after he started, 1:01:41.560 --> 1:01:43.160 after he started knocking in some threes. 1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:44.919 Yeah. Great. 1:01:44.960 --> 1:01:46.640 But I just love Kyle now and I love seeing 1:01:46.680 --> 1:01:48.680 him out on the bucks and anytime he comes out 1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:50.200 on the court, I'm like, I hope he hits a 1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:51.480 few threes because he's great. 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:53.560 Okay, task, I announced it. 1:01:55.080 --> 1:01:57.320 I will always love Jason max Seal because he had 1:01:57.360 --> 1:02:02.520 the perfect round head his head. His head unlike any 1:02:02.600 --> 1:02:05.480 other NBA player I've ever seen. He was He was 1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:08.040 rolled as a child. He never spent more than five 1:02:08.080 --> 1:02:10.280 minutes on his back or on his belly. He was 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:13.080 rolled at all times. So his head is perfectly round. 1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:15.640 Try find me a more roundhead than Jason Maxiel. 1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:22.920 Eric snow no, Eric, No, that's a roundhead. 1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:25.760 I guess you're thought it was a more narrow. 1:02:27.200 --> 1:02:29.320 Jason Maxieal. I like that he has just a place 1:02:29.560 --> 1:02:33.600 in no Dunk Slash starter slash basketball Jones Lore too, 1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:36.600 with the infamous bet that we made way back in 1:02:36.640 --> 1:02:38.880 the day that he would be an All Star before 1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:42.360 Danny Granger, which is still one of the weirdest bets 1:02:43.040 --> 1:02:47.560 of all time. Yeah, that's I think that. Didn't he 1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:49.560 Danny Granger? Did he only make one? 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:50.880 I need to? 1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:53.680 Yeah, I mean I had high hopes for Jason Maxiel. 1:02:53.760 --> 1:02:55.280 I fell in love early. I liked how he played, 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:57.840 I loved his energy and it was good. And then 1:02:57.880 --> 1:03:00.520 he completely disappared and then Danny Greecher was the I 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:03.280 don't know why. Why did I pick Danny Granger is 1:03:03.280 --> 1:03:06.600 the weird part, as like, I mean, maybe task maybe 1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:08.440 even you picked him and we were debating who was 1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:10.200 going to be better. I can't really remember that part 1:03:10.240 --> 1:03:10.400 of the. 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:13.360 Story, but I don't know. Could have been a question too. 1:03:14.760 --> 1:03:19.120 Eric Snow looking looking it up now, I get what 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:22.760 you're saying with the roundness. The top of his head 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:28.640 is really round, but I'm talking full fully, like, yeah, 1:03:29.600 --> 1:03:32.680 it's a sphere, perfect perfect head. 1:03:33.440 --> 1:03:38.840 Brooks had a little roundhead, didn't he, I think, Yeah? 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:41.959 He had, didn't Marsham Brooks have he had a normal size? 1:03:41.960 --> 1:03:44.120 Had I thought? And then had like someone took photoshop 1:03:44.160 --> 1:03:47.200 and like shrunked his face down into the head. 1:03:47.880 --> 1:03:49.160 Small features, Yeah. 1:03:49.000 --> 1:03:49.720 Small features. 1:03:50.280 --> 1:03:50.400 Right. 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:57.160 You know it's the dog days, baby, because this one 1:03:57.600 --> 1:04:02.120 is about a reporter and everybody and everybody out there 1:04:02.160 --> 1:04:05.040 is getting their content from NBA reporters these days, hanging 1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:09.520 out in their hotel rooms, and you know, the contact 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:12.360 with players has been reduced, so we're talking reporters, and 1:04:12.400 --> 1:04:16.440 this guy loves it. Heyo, No dunks. There, y'all are, 1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:20.760 And here I am in Omaha, Nebraska last Monday. When 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:23.920 Test spoke the name of my beloved hometown, I instantly 1:04:23.960 --> 1:04:26.880 turned the volume up and pulled into a nearby runs 1:04:26.960 --> 1:04:30.520 up parking lot to properly indulge in the discussion. Hearing 1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:35.520 about local celebrity ESPN's Brian Windhurst in the conversation was 1:04:35.600 --> 1:04:39.120 absolutely delightful. Being an avid listener of the Hoop Collective, 1:04:39.560 --> 1:04:41.360 it's cool to know that the host of the podcast 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:44.320 lives in my city. I'll admit, when I first found 1:04:44.320 --> 1:04:46.920 out that Wendy lives in Omaha, I had quite the 1:04:46.960 --> 1:04:50.640 fanboy moment. Granted, if I were to run into him, 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:53.440 I'd play it off cool, just say hi and tell 1:04:53.520 --> 1:04:56.480 them that I respect his work. Best case scenario, we 1:04:56.600 --> 1:04:58.680 hit it off and find out that we have something 1:04:58.680 --> 1:05:01.760 else in common other than making the NBA, such as 1:05:01.760 --> 1:05:05.640 paddleboarding or coin collecting. With that said, who is a 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:08.480 celebrity you think you could realistically meet and what do 1:05:08.520 --> 1:05:11.400 you think you'd have in common with them besides what 1:05:11.480 --> 1:05:14.840 they're most known for, you guys rock. That's from Jack. 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:19.880 He took out his example at the end there, which 1:05:19.920 --> 1:05:23.400 I was laughing because he was like, He's like, Yeah, 1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:26.320 if you play the guitar and you met Eric Clapton, 1:05:26.400 --> 1:05:28.560 of course you would be able to talk about playing 1:05:28.600 --> 1:05:33.160 the guitar together, but that shouldn't count. I thought that killed. 1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:37.640 Thanks Laila, all right, Lee. 1:05:37.640 --> 1:05:42.040 Uh well, we got easy one here. Obama. I think 1:05:42.120 --> 1:05:44.520 there's a chance, because he's a big basketball fan, that 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:48.320 at some point, NBA All Star, NBA Finals, he's there. 1:05:48.480 --> 1:05:48.959 I'm there. 1:05:49.360 --> 1:05:52.640 We just happened to cross parts, and we don't talk politics. 1:05:52.680 --> 1:05:54.520 We just get a ball out and we start hooping, 1:05:54.760 --> 1:05:57.240 and we just started shooting hoops. I think that's, you know, 1:05:58.000 --> 1:06:01.120 not beyond the complete realm of any sort of fantasy 1:06:01.120 --> 1:06:03.640 that it could never happen. I mean, I'm not sure 1:06:03.680 --> 1:06:05.600 he's just going to come out, you know, and just 1:06:05.640 --> 1:06:07.520 be like throwing the ball at me and saying, let's 1:06:07.520 --> 1:06:10.760 see you shot. But just you know, sometimes these things 1:06:10.840 --> 1:06:12.720 just kind of you know, you're in the right place 1:06:12.720 --> 1:06:14.880 at the right time, and it's like, holy hell, I'm 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:17.440 just shooting around with Barack Obama right now. He's just 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:18.680 getting some shots off with him. 1:06:18.720 --> 1:06:22.120 It could happen, nor paralytics, nothing but laugh. 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:29.440 Man. What percentage of chance of that happening would you 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:30.000 put at Lee? 1:06:30.560 --> 1:06:33.680 Well, well, he's alive and I'm alive, I'd say that's 1:06:33.680 --> 1:06:36.720 one yea in each I'd say it's about about three percent. 1:06:36.840 --> 1:06:37.000 You know. 1:06:37.200 --> 1:06:39.120 But listen, he was in Chicago at the All Star Week. 1:06:39.120 --> 1:06:40.840 I know he's I know he's an Illinois guy. But 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:43.560 you know now that he's so far from the sort 1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:46.800 of presidential you know, his time as president. I think 1:06:47.160 --> 1:06:48.760 I think at some point he's going to just turn 1:06:48.840 --> 1:06:50.680 up at the finals, you know, and it's like. 1:06:50.680 --> 1:06:52.560 Oh, well, it wasn't the finals in Toronto. 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:56.000 I think as a right, that's right. 1:06:56.280 --> 1:06:59.680 I don't necessarily think he's showing up three hours early 1:06:59.760 --> 1:07:01.240 and milling around the court. 1:07:02.280 --> 1:07:04.720 Yeah, I mean that, But what about late in the game, 1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:06.920 like maybe he's maybe he's had a few pops in 1:07:06.960 --> 1:07:09.720 the in the suite, and he's like after the game, 1:07:09.840 --> 1:07:11.560 you know, everyone's sort of making their way out, and 1:07:11.560 --> 1:07:13.240 I'm just out in the court. He's in the court. 1:07:13.520 --> 1:07:16.320 The security. Security's not coming out on the court leating 1:07:16.400 --> 1:07:16.800 the game. 1:07:17.880 --> 1:07:20.560 No, no, no, after the game, you know they've cleared 1:07:20.560 --> 1:07:22.240 it all out, like all the media has done, and 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:24.640 you know, I'm packing up on grabbing my bag. He's 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:26.760 about to head out, and then someone there's a ball 1:07:26.760 --> 1:07:28.680 there and he gets some shots up. Security's not coming 1:07:28.720 --> 1:07:31.200 saying excuse me, so you got to go. They're like shoot. 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:31.880 Away, man, go for it. 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:33.720 And then all of a sudden, I'm rebounding and firing 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:36.000 the ball back to him. Nice shot, beat, Nice shot. 1:07:36.200 --> 1:07:38.080 You know I shot beat while you're already cald be 1:07:38.920 --> 1:07:43.040 Yeah what. It might be even more likely that this 1:07:43.760 --> 1:07:46.920 scenario would happen at like some sort of like charity event, 1:07:47.080 --> 1:07:50.160 some initiative that he's backing. You know that there is 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:53.200 a court, there's kids, you know. Yeah, Okay, then maybe 1:07:53.280 --> 1:07:56.040 you get an invite somehow, You're you're covering it for 1:07:56.080 --> 1:07:56.640 some reason. 1:07:57.400 --> 1:07:59.400 Maybe send him an invite to join me on popping 1:07:59.480 --> 1:08:02.960 packs about that. I think he'd be great at it. 1:08:03.200 --> 1:08:05.600 I think he'd be awesome at it. All right, I'm 1:08:05.600 --> 1:08:08.520 gonna send a message just I'll tell you how guys. 1:08:08.520 --> 1:08:10.360 All right, well you're doing that, Trey, Do you have 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:11.240 an answer for this one. 1:08:12.120 --> 1:08:15.040 I think it's possible I could meet Bravos Andy Cohen 1:08:15.080 --> 1:08:17.599 because he's a Saint Louis guy, so he's probably around 1:08:17.600 --> 1:08:21.120 there sometimes. I've got Saint Louis connections on my side 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:23.000 of the family and on Laura's side of the family. 1:08:23.040 --> 1:08:25.400 And if that ever happens, no doubt. We're talking Ted 1:08:25.479 --> 1:08:29.120 Drews Rosen Custard, the most famous custard shop in all 1:08:29.160 --> 1:08:31.360 of America. And we're also talking The Grateful Dead. The 1:08:31.360 --> 1:08:34.160 guy's a huge deadhead. You know, he's backstage at Dead 1:08:34.200 --> 1:08:36.479 and Company shows. He's buddies with John Mayer, and you know, 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:38.559 I'd just like to talk to him about Europe seventy 1:08:38.560 --> 1:08:40.599 two or Cornell seventy seven. 1:08:40.600 --> 1:08:41.320 Who knows. 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:43.720 Okay, I could see it happened. I'm sure I'll go 1:08:43.760 --> 1:08:46.519 with Bieber. I think I'll one day run into Bieber again. 1:08:46.560 --> 1:08:48.439 I saw him when he was a young kid, had 1:08:48.479 --> 1:08:50.040 no idea who the hell he was, of course at 1:08:50.080 --> 1:08:52.439 that point, but uh, you know, why not. It's some 1:08:52.520 --> 1:08:54.920 sort of Strafford festival. Beibe's gonna be back in town 1:08:54.960 --> 1:08:58.400 see his grandparents, and then we're just talking Strafford. Oh yeah, 1:08:58.520 --> 1:08:59.120 high school. 1:08:59.240 --> 1:08:59.680 Yell this. 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:02.400 I can't believe this change. Can you believe they got 1:09:02.439 --> 1:09:06.160 a KFC now? Stuff like that? I think I could happen, 1:09:06.160 --> 1:09:07.800 and then it might just even be Yeah, it might be. 1:09:07.920 --> 1:09:10.280 Uh you know, I've thrown the challenge out there before. 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:13.679 I'd like to play on one on one. See who's 1:09:13.640 --> 1:09:18.400 Strafford's finess is between? Oh yeah, I would definitely drop 1:09:18.439 --> 1:09:21.040 the biber on Biber. That would be the first thing 1:09:21.080 --> 1:09:23.160 I would do. In fact, I don't think i'd ever 1:09:23.200 --> 1:09:26.360 shoot it. I would just keep trippling. Yeah, just keep 1:09:26.400 --> 1:09:29.760 going till whatever shot clock expired and hand the ball 1:09:29.800 --> 1:09:31.840 back to home. And I would only shoot in my 1:09:31.880 --> 1:09:33.559 left hand. Right, don't the shoot with his left hand 1:09:33.600 --> 1:09:35.439 on this and that one famous clip, I'd have to 1:09:35.479 --> 1:09:39.600 wear a La King's hat to give a stare to 1:09:39.640 --> 1:09:42.200 the camera. Yeah, Beabs, I'll run into Beabs at some point. 1:09:42.240 --> 1:09:43.040 Task gut an answer. 1:09:43.800 --> 1:09:46.720 Well, there's a spot I go to for kids down 1:09:46.760 --> 1:09:49.880 here in Atlanta, the Atlanta Children's Museum, and quite often 1:09:49.920 --> 1:09:53.599 they bring out you know, huge characters in their six 1:09:53.640 --> 1:09:59.479 foot costumes, like Daniel Tiger, you know Disney characters. I 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:02.679 I have dreams of them bringing out the teenage mutant 1:10:02.760 --> 1:10:06.639 Ninja Turtles and meeting my idol, Michelangelo. I'm a huge 1:10:06.680 --> 1:10:07.679 Michelangelo guy. 1:10:08.439 --> 1:10:09.799 You know, he's such a party dude. 1:10:10.000 --> 1:10:14.479 It's a huge party dude. You know his primary focus partying, 1:10:14.880 --> 1:10:18.439 secondary focus none chucking, but his third focus of pizza. 1:10:19.479 --> 1:10:23.080 We could we could brow down on talking pizza, me 1:10:23.200 --> 1:10:28.160 and Michelangelo. 1:10:25.600 --> 1:10:29.360 To bring back in the reporter talk. Do you see 1:10:29.439 --> 1:10:34.360 Chris Mannix writing about he doesn't like cheese on anything 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:38.240 except pizza. He was writing this in his bubble report 1:10:38.320 --> 1:10:44.479 for SI Crazy take. Doesn't like cheese on anything, finds 1:10:44.479 --> 1:10:47.880 it disgusting except pizza. That's the weirdest part to me. 1:10:47.920 --> 1:10:50.800 It's like, Okay, if you're anti anti cheese, okay, I 1:10:50.800 --> 1:10:53.800 get it. Maybe you're even lactos dollar or whatever. But 1:10:54.120 --> 1:10:56.240 he's obviously not because he loves it on pizza like 1:10:56.240 --> 1:11:00.680 a normal person. But Nacho's no bread. No, you know, 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:02.320 that's that's wild to me. 1:11:03.560 --> 1:11:06.160 It really makes you wonder would he eat a cheesy 1:11:06.200 --> 1:11:07.679 garlic bread It's pretty similar. 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:11.160 I guess not. I guess. 1:11:11.200 --> 1:11:14.560 Fascinating times we are reading about all of these reporters 1:11:14.600 --> 1:11:18.559 food tendencies. I think Lee, you could take a tip 1:11:18.600 --> 1:11:21.240 from the athletics Joe Varden. He's trying to become vegan 1:11:21.360 --> 1:11:21.840 right now. 1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:23.439 Wow, that's tough. 1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:26.240 That is tough, and I know you're struggling to be 1:11:26.280 --> 1:11:29.400 in the vegetarian category. Maybe he can, maybe he can 1:11:29.400 --> 1:11:32.719 bring you along. You know, he's doing it in the bubble. 1:11:32.920 --> 1:11:35.200 I know, I've seen what people are tweeting out there, 1:11:35.240 --> 1:11:37.400 those ham and cheese croissants and things like that. I mean, 1:11:37.760 --> 1:11:39.720 if that's all you're getting, it's hot to just sort 1:11:39.720 --> 1:11:41.120 of pick the cheese and the ham out of that 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:43.680 and just leak the croissant too. So it's a tough time. 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:45.760 If he can pull it off, I commend him for it. 1:11:45.800 --> 1:11:47.080 If he can do it, then I can do it. 1:11:47.720 --> 1:11:50.240 Yeah. By the way, we got way more than ten people, 1:11:50.280 --> 1:11:52.680 ten reporters in this bubble, right I don't know, if 1:11:52.680 --> 1:11:55.760 you keep it track, it's gotta be way over ten. 1:11:55.840 --> 1:11:57.960 It's closer to twenty if you ask me, maybe twenty 1:11:58.000 --> 1:12:01.839 five it feels like it gets and is it groundhog 1:12:01.920 --> 1:12:04.439 Day right now? Following all these guys and women, Like 1:12:04.520 --> 1:12:07.400 it's like I get it. They're stuck in a hotel 1:12:07.479 --> 1:12:09.960 room for seven days. They don't have much else to 1:12:10.000 --> 1:12:12.200 report on. They got to get that content going, you know, 1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:14.160 you gotta you gotta crank that out, especially with the 1:12:14.160 --> 1:12:15.800 amount of money it takes to send these people there. 1:12:15.800 --> 1:12:18.880 But it's like I feel like I've read or seen 1:12:18.920 --> 1:12:21.720 the same thing like ten times now of like this 1:12:21.880 --> 1:12:23.760 is my kit and this is what I do, and 1:12:23.800 --> 1:12:25.320 this is my hotel room there. It's the exact same 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:27.280 hometown rooms. But again, I'm not knocking them. It's like 1:12:27.360 --> 1:12:30.120 hilarious that they've they're just way. We've got this little 1:12:30.200 --> 1:12:33.120 lineup here of great reporters down there for all these 1:12:33.120 --> 1:12:35.880 different factions, but it's the same thing over and over 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:38.200 over again. I can't wait till they're free to leave 1:12:38.240 --> 1:12:39.160 their hotel room at the. 1:12:40.120 --> 1:12:42.360 I just I'm just looking here for Barack Obama because 1:12:42.400 --> 1:12:45.280 he follows like six hundred thousand people on Twitter bad news. 1:12:45.320 --> 1:12:48.439 I can't slide into his dms there, but I have 1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:51.880 found I have found like a contact Barack Obama and 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:53.040 if you've got to you know, if you've got something 1:12:53.040 --> 1:12:54.559 you want to say to him, just fill out this form. 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:56.120 So I'm gonna send him an out say if he 1:12:56.120 --> 1:12:57.639 wants to come and pop some packs with me. 1:12:57.800 --> 1:13:01.280 Take leah, I'll DM him for you. Because he follows me. 1:13:04.720 --> 1:13:10.040 Say it's already starting to come together like this, though 1:13:10.040 --> 1:13:11.000 I'd appreciate that. 1:13:11.000 --> 1:13:13.280 That'd be great he still follows you. 1:13:14.040 --> 1:13:17.080 I haven't checked it a while, but I think so wow. 1:13:17.360 --> 1:13:19.439 If he does, he just just slot in there and 1:13:19.520 --> 1:13:21.439 just say, my friend once last year. 1:13:21.400 --> 1:13:23.400 Wants to open basketball cards with you. 1:13:26.840 --> 1:13:27.120 Is he? 1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:27.840 What is he? 1:13:27.920 --> 1:13:30.360 Ten eleven? That's sounds like it could be fun. Oh no, No, 1:13:30.439 --> 1:13:32.200 he's a forty three year old man. 1:13:32.920 --> 1:13:35.840 Forty four. 1:13:35.920 --> 1:13:40.200 It's a good number for Yeah, you snergy. What the 1:13:40.200 --> 1:13:43.599 hell's a Runza? By the way, he said he pulled 1:13:43.640 --> 1:13:46.679 into a Runza parking lot. Never heard of a Runza. 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:50.120 Is that a like a like a home depot type 1:13:50.160 --> 1:13:51.920 thing in Nebraska? 1:13:52.040 --> 1:13:54.680 Is it as a restaurant? It looks like. 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:57.719 Never sandwich shop of some sort. 1:13:58.760 --> 1:14:02.760 Runs aren't Why Nebraska is obsessed with the Runs of Sandwich? 1:14:03.800 --> 1:14:06.760 Is that anywhere else in the country. I've never am 1:14:06.800 --> 1:14:08.639 I alone even saying this, I mean, I guess. 1:14:08.479 --> 1:14:11.559 Not yeah, no, no idea. 1:14:12.240 --> 1:14:14.360 Oh I gotta try a runza now I Brian Winnhor's 1:14:14.360 --> 1:14:16.120 talking about a runza? Is it good? Is it a 1:14:16.120 --> 1:14:17.719 good sub sandwich? Whatever? 1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:19.720 Chris Max, you gonna eat this? I don't know. 1:14:19.840 --> 1:14:25.599 It's a little cheesy, amazing, amazing, all right, one more 1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:28.760 and then we'll wrap this bad boy up. Hey, no, 1:14:28.880 --> 1:14:32.400 dumb's crewe. Lately, my two year old son has been 1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:37.200 running around the house saying bitch, bitch, bitch. My wife 1:14:37.240 --> 1:14:38.679 and I try not to swear in front of him 1:14:38.720 --> 1:14:41.200 because he's a little parrot, but a few f bombs 1:14:41.240 --> 1:14:43.880 have slept here and there. However, we don't normally say 1:14:43.880 --> 1:14:46.479 the word bitch, so we would be confused by this. 1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:51.080 On Wednesday, I turned on the Beach step in podcasts, 1:14:51.520 --> 1:14:53.960 and the second my son heard the music, he started 1:14:53.960 --> 1:14:57.640 saying bitch, bitch, bitch. Then it clicked. He's trying to 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:01.760 say beach because he listens to every podcast. As soon 1:15:01.800 --> 1:15:06.599 as the regular intro music hits, he says podcast and 1:15:06.840 --> 1:15:10.879 hey he drops as in response to the bearded one. Anyway, 1:15:11.600 --> 1:15:14.000 what do you guys think about Jordan getting a bunch 1:15:14.080 --> 1:15:17.519 of bunk beds and having the delete eight second bubble 1:15:17.680 --> 1:15:20.519 At his vacant house in Chicago. There are a ton 1:15:20.560 --> 1:15:23.400 of rooms and a full sized court. I can't imagine 1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:26.200 the players will be thrilled by sharing rooms like they're 1:15:26.240 --> 1:15:28.760 at summer camp, like they're sharing a big yurt. But 1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:32.800 maybe staying in MJ's house adds a certain element to it. 1:15:33.160 --> 1:15:35.960 What you got that's from Eric fun little story off 1:15:35.960 --> 1:15:38.479 the top. Yes, it's beach. He's just trying to stay beach. 1:15:38.720 --> 1:15:40.639 But I love that he loves the music, he loves 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:43.880 the podcast. But what do you think about this idea, Trey, 1:15:44.080 --> 1:15:45.639 this Jordan idea second bubble? 1:15:46.000 --> 1:15:47.800 Brilliant man. He's trying to sell his house. 1:15:47.880 --> 1:15:50.160 You could lease it for a few months and you know, 1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:52.240 to to cover the mortgage. 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:52.479 In the meantime. 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:55.439 Michael Jordan has a team that could actually be playing 1:15:55.520 --> 1:15:58.160 in the bubble, so or I don't know if this 1:15:58.200 --> 1:16:00.559 would be a bubble in the mansion, whatever you want 1:16:00.560 --> 1:16:03.120 to call it. So yeah, send the hornets there, send 1:16:03.160 --> 1:16:04.880 the bulls there. But I don't know if you're gonna 1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:07.680 have enough space for eight teams in one house. But 1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:10.959 there are a lot of celebrities that have basketball connections 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:13.600 that also have basketball courts in their house, right, you 1:16:13.600 --> 1:16:17.360 could do The Warriors maybe could play at Drake's Shack 1:16:17.439 --> 1:16:18.000 has a court. 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:19.160 Will Smith has a court. 1:16:19.200 --> 1:16:21.120 We can open it up, send two teams to each 1:16:21.200 --> 1:16:23.439 famous person's house and have them play a few times. 1:16:24.120 --> 1:16:27.000 Yeah, and then just make it a reality show. Oh, 1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:29.200 like them living in the mansion like Big Brother is 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:31.559 a style there. Yeah, I like that idea a lot. 1:16:31.920 --> 1:16:34.080 I wouldn't want to. I mean, I guess who's the 1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:35.920 worst team to leave a you Warriors if they all 1:16:35.960 --> 1:16:37.760 went to MJ. So the Warriors would have to sleep 1:16:37.760 --> 1:16:41.479 in the cigar room. That's the punishment, right, because it's 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:43.439 like Big Brothers, like first one in the house. If 1:16:43.439 --> 1:16:44.640 you have the best record, you get to go in 1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:46.080 the house first, and you get to pick your room. 1:16:46.120 --> 1:16:48.040 I think your team gets to pick your area of 1:16:48.200 --> 1:16:51.040 MJ's mansion. I don't know. I wouldn't want to sleep 1:16:51.040 --> 1:16:53.599 in a cigar room that lead Oh. 1:16:53.560 --> 1:16:57.160 God, yeah nah nah, No matter how much scrubbing and cleaning, 1:16:57.160 --> 1:17:01.360 it probably still is a bit musty in there. But yeah, 1:17:01.400 --> 1:17:03.160 it's funny, isn't it that he still hasn't been able 1:17:03.160 --> 1:17:05.360 to sell that house. I thought like it's stanyn to 1:17:05.439 --> 1:17:07.759 foty and a half million or whatever. That's a steal. 1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:11.160 That's a steal. I think it's shocked that he concept. 1:17:11.160 --> 1:17:12.240 It must be something else wrong. 1:17:12.120 --> 1:17:14.519 With it, Oh, bad bones. 1:17:15.160 --> 1:17:18.559 Maybe maybe plumbing, maybe the electricals. You know, maybe someone's 1:17:18.640 --> 1:17:20.960 checked it out and they're like, this toilet, this the 1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:24.600 fifteenth toilet doesn't flush all that well, so it's a 1:17:24.640 --> 1:17:27.200 nobly handle. Yeah, who knows? 1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:30.200 Who knows? All right, guys, thank you so much for 1:17:30.240 --> 1:17:32.240 sending in your questions. That was a fun one. Keep 1:17:32.280 --> 1:17:35.280 them coming for next week. For next week's excuse Me 1:17:35.320 --> 1:17:37.840 Beach step In podcast, my mouth is dry right now, 1:17:37.960 --> 1:17:41.599 my mouth is dry. 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