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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran,

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Speaker 2: This is Human Events with your host, Jack Pisoviet Christ

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Speaker 2: is true.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's the first time we've heard from Pope

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Speaker 3: Francis since he was hospitalized. But of course it's also

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Speaker 3: a reflection of the toll that this illness has taken

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Speaker 3: after spending three weeks in the hospital for what started

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Speaker 4: This morning, President Trump with a dizzy and reversal, allowing

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Speaker 4: Mexico and Canada to avoid twenty five percent tariffs on

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Speaker 4: White House, about half of imports from Mexico and only

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Speaker 4: thirty eight percent of goods from Canada qualify for the pause,

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Speaker 5: Look, our country has been ripped off by everybody that

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Speaker 5: stops now.

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Speaker 6: Hamas is responding to President Trump's latest threats.

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Speaker 7: He called on the militant group to immediately release all

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Speaker 7: remaining hostages. Being held in Gaza or quote, it's over

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Speaker 7: for you.

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Speaker 6: But we're doing very.

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Speaker 5: Well with Russia, but right now they're bombing the hell

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Speaker 5: to deal with Ukraine and they don't have the cards.

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Speaker 5: which is surprising because they have all the cards and

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Speaker 1: Ladies, you'll welcome forward today's isition Human Events Daily Live, Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: Today is March seven, twenty five. Anno Domini got to

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Speaker 1: respond to this new column claiming that MAGA is wrong

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Speaker 1: on Ukraine from Douglas Murray and.

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Speaker 1: I read your column, the one where you're taking the

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Speaker 1: swing at us, and I got to say, you lost

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Speaker 1: the plot mate. You claim MAGA is wrong on Ukraine

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Speaker 1: because we've never been there, never seen the stakes up closed. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me set the record straight. I've been to Ukraine

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Speaker 1: multiple times before the war. During the war, I've walked

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Speaker 1: the streets of Kiev. There were missiles in the air

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Speaker 1: Zelinski himself alongside Scott Besson talking strategy, seeing the chaos firsthand.

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Speaker 1: So we don't need a lecture about where we've been

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Speaker 1: where we haven't been. We've been there, but we could

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Speaker 1: also see the videos from there.

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Speaker 7: Writ large. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: The world that you're seem to be talking about doesn't

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Speaker 1: exist anymore. There's this fantasy of an Anglo American led

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Speaker 1: global order where some noble chess board where London and

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Speaker 1: Washington moved the pieces and everyone just kind of nods along. Well,

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Speaker 1: that era is dead and it's been bleeding out since Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,

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Speaker 1: all the endless wars that all of the Neocon buddies

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Speaker 1: cheered for. Trump sees this, Maga, sees this maga was

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Speaker 1: the choice of the American people. Writ Large, the popular vote.

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Speaker 1: The future isn't about imposing some grand universal system. It's

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Speaker 1: about nation states putting their own people first. America first.

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Speaker 1: That's the doctrine. And so you may scoff at Trump

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Speaker 1: wanting some peace in Ukraine like it's a naive betrayal

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Speaker 1: of the Atlantiss dreams. But what's naive is thinking that

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Speaker 1: we can keep boring billions and hundreds of billions of

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Speaker 7: Trump is right.

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Speaker 1: Peace isn't weakness, Peace is strength, it's sanity. People have

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Speaker 1: seen the war up close, the kids in the bomb shelters,

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Speaker 1: the town's reduced to rumble. You think Zelenski wants that forever. No,

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Speaker 1: he'd take the deal if the West stop using him

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Speaker 1: as a battering ram against Moscow. Maga is an isolationist, Doug,

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Speaker 1: it's realist. We're done playing world police for an order

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Speaker 1: what's wrong is pretending that we can rewind to nineteen

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Speaker 1: decline of the West, but now we are acting on it.

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Speaker 7: Come back to reality.

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Speaker 1: The empires over nation states are what's left, and America

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Speaker 1: is finally choosing itself.

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Speaker 7: I'll be right back from the ventscale.

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Speaker 1: Truly means welcome to the Second American Revolution. All right, Jack,

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Speaker 1: So here we are back live Human Events Daily. Are

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Speaker 1: looking at a shot of the National Mall, not quite

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Speaker 1: as windy as it was yesterday. The sun is out

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Speaker 7: Make sure you do so as well.

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Speaker 1: But someone who gets plenty of vitamin D because he

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Speaker 1: lives in the Sunshine State is the great Roger Stone

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Speaker 7: Roger, how are you, Jack?

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Speaker 6: Great to be back with you, so, Roger.

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Speaker 1: We had Congressman Byron Donald's here on the program yesterday

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, just like any of these other primaries in

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Speaker 8: First of all, I'm a strong supporter of Byron Donalds.

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Speaker 8: I predicted well over two years ago. The governor's wife,

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Speaker 8: Casey DeSantis, has announced that she is seriously considering a race.

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Speaker 8: This is really because, first of all, Ron DeSantis is

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Speaker 8: And yes, he wants to run for president again in

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Speaker 6: Think he could beat anyone for that matter.

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Speaker 8: But in this particular case, this is shaping up as

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Speaker 7: He's shown an ability to be.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, for people who don't live in Florida, they may

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Speaker 8: not remember the background, but Ron Stantis was a rather

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Speaker 8: Ron was running about eight percent. Adam Putnam the favorite,

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Speaker 8: So a lot of Trump's supporters here in the Sunshine

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Speaker 8: State are asking, you know, where's the loyalty? I mean,

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Speaker 8: Ronda Stantles would be managing a McDonald's today were it

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Speaker 8: I think he's talking about running his wife for governor

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Speaker 6: That that would revive.

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Speaker 8: Because no one gives Rondo Santis because they like him.

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Speaker 10: Terrence Bates. Happening today, President Trump meeting with cryptocurrency executives

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Speaker 7: The change of heart.

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Speaker 6: Terance today, you know that you.

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Speaker 8: Talk about influencers, These are influences and their friends and mine.

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily were on with legendary political strategist Roger Stone.

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Speaker 7: And Roger we're about one week away.

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Speaker 1: Just about I'm going to think around this time one

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Speaker 1: week ago is when President Trump was giving Zelenski the

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Speaker 8: Well, it was interesting to see Susan Rice, the former

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Speaker 8: say that the meeting was a setup. She's right about that,

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Speaker 8: Is this something I think Cash Pttel should investigate and

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Speaker 1: And of course why would Zelenski throw something like this

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Speaker 6: Wear a suit and tie.

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Speaker 8: Even Elon Musk recognized the decorum of the US House

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Speaker 10: And right back, Terrence Bates here with your real America's

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Speaker 6: Hey, Jack, Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is it Jack?

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Speaker 6: I want to see you. Great job, Jack, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: We're always talking about.

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Speaker 1: The fake news and demand, but we have guys, and

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Speaker 1: these are the guys who are forgetting policies. All right, folks,

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Speaker 1: here we are back Live, Human Events Daily, Real America,

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Speaker 1: his Voice.

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Speaker 7: Want to also welcome in the third hour of.

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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show on the Salem Radio Network, we

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Speaker 1: are here discussing all things political with veteran political strategists

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Speaker 1: Roger Stone. But Roger also had an interesting article that

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Speaker 1: he posted a couple of nights ago, and I have

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Speaker 1: to say I read the entire thing word for word

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Speaker 1: because a lot of folks have been looking at the

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Speaker 1: failing health of Pope Francis. Pope Francis seen as a

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Speaker 1: member of the liberal wing of the Church, someone who's

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Speaker 1: championed a number of issues that are in line with

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Speaker 1: liberal causes immigration, open border immigration, climate change, but has

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Speaker 1: also stood for things like pro life, has stood up

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Speaker 1: against the idea of women being in the pulpit as priests,

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Speaker 1: and also, by the way, is a vocal opponent of

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Speaker 1: the Ukraine War and is constantly called for peace. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's been in the hospital for weeks. On ash Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: he was not able to say mass in the Vatican

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Speaker 1: was required to have a cardinal to replace him. And

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Speaker 1: Roger has written an article about the potential process should

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Speaker 1: they should it occur for selecting the next Pope Roger.

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Speaker 1: When you apply the art of political prognostication or election

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Speaker 1: prognostication to something like the papacy, is it much different

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Speaker 1: from when you're looking at, say a seat in Congress

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Speaker 1: or a presidential race.

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Speaker 8: You know, people tell you that the church or the

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Speaker 8: military is not political, and of course they're entirely political.

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Speaker 6: Jack. So let's look at the process.

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Speaker 8: If the pope goes on to meet his maker, you

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Speaker 8: would have what is called a conclave. This is a

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Speaker 8: gathering of all the hopes from around the world, with

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Speaker 8: exception of those over eighty, they are not permitted to vote.

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Speaker 8: That is a significant setback for the more conservative elements

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Speaker 8: of the church, but it's based on a rule that

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Speaker 8: came out of Vatican IWO. So, of the current college

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Speaker 8: of cardinals, eighty percent of them were chosen by Francis, who,

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Speaker 8: by any measure, would have to be considered one of

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Speaker 8: the most progressive popes in recent memory. Anyway, these elections,

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Speaker 8: there's a cap, and the number can slightly differ. The

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Speaker 8: cap on the number of votes they meet in the

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Speaker 8: Sistine Chapel. They're essentially locked in and they keep balloting

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Speaker 8: until they have one candidate with a majority. Each one

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Speaker 8: of the cardinals writes the name of their chosen candidate,

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Speaker 8: and I slipped the paper, folds it, places it in

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Speaker 8: a chalice on the altar. The ballots are counted by

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Speaker 8: three scutineers, and to win, a candidate needs two thirds.

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Speaker 6: Which of the votes.

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Speaker 8: If nobody gets a majority, those ballots are burned with

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Speaker 8: a chemical that smokes black, and therefore the smoke you

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Speaker 8: see rising from the roof of the Sistine Chapels blackness.

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Speaker 6: They do not yet have a pope.

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Speaker 8: Only when they have a pope do they use a

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Speaker 8: different chemical mix, and the smoke is white. The words

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Speaker 8: heyb miss paper, meaning we have a pope is announced

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Speaker 8: from the balcony.

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Speaker 6: Now you look at the jockeying. Here we go.

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Speaker 8: Cardinal Phro Perolini, seventy of Italy. He's the Vatican Secretary

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Speaker 8: of State Parole may be the current front.

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Speaker 6: Runner, if there is one.

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Speaker 8: He's a moderate with extensive diplomatic experience. He's viewed it

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Speaker 8: kind of as a continuum of the current pope, although

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Speaker 8: he has some controversial dealings, such as the Vatican's agreement

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Speaker 8: with China, that could complicate his candidacy. Cardinal Luis Antonio

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Speaker 8: Tago or the Philippines known as the Asian Francis again

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Speaker 8: a leader of the progressive wing of the church, and

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Speaker 8: he follows the current.

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Speaker 6: Pope's pastoral approach.

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Speaker 8: My sources tell me that he'd be the worst and

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Speaker 8: probably the most left wing of the choices. A Cardinal

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Speaker 8: Matteo Zupi of Italy, another favorite of Pope Francis, Soupi

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Speaker 8: as president of the Italian Episcopal Conference and a moderate

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Speaker 8: known for his social justice advocacy. Cardinal Friedland and Brogosungi

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Speaker 8: of the Congo. He's a strong conservative voice. I guess

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Speaker 8: in a perfect world he'd probably be my first choice.

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Speaker 8: He's a terrific long shot. Remember Jack that eighty percent

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Speaker 8: of these voters who were appointed by the current pope.

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Speaker 8: A Cardinal Whim Egypt, a former doctor, another conservative known

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Speaker 8: for actually opposing Francis's views on marriage and abortion at

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Speaker 8: Pardon Your Marriage and Divorce. His traditionalist stance would appeal

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Speaker 8: to some cardinals to rebalance current reforms, but he again

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Speaker 8: is a long shot. Cardinal Raymond Burke of the United States,

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Speaker 8: an American traditionalist. Burke has clashed with, for instance, on

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Speaker 8: issues like marriage, the Eucharist, same sex marriage. He's a

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Speaker 8: long shot, but he represents a more conservative vocal faction.

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Speaker 6: My sources think Burke would launch.

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Speaker 8: Major reforms to strength in the church until young Catholics,

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Speaker 8: who are overwhelmingly conservative are ready to take the helm.

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Speaker 8: Then there's Cardinal Peter Ardo of Hungary seventy two, a

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Speaker 8: conservative canon lawyer respected for his adherents church doctrine, and

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Speaker 8: he is a kind of low profile approach. He again

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Speaker 8: would attract some moderate and conservative votes to the extent

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Speaker 8: that there are conservative votes. Remember the current pope appointed

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Speaker 8: eighty percent of the electorate in this particular election. And then,

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Speaker 8: of course there's Cardinal Mario Grisch of Malta. He is

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Speaker 8: the Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops. He's a

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Speaker 8: Fransis appointee with an extremely progressive bent, emphasizing dialogue with

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Speaker 8: marginalized groups. So if I had my pick, I would

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Speaker 8: take Cardinal Robert Sarah of Guinea. He'd be my first choice.

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Speaker 8: He's a staunch conservative defender of the faith in the church,

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Speaker 8: believes in borders, I believes in the rules of the West.

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Speaker 8: We really couldn't do better than a Cardinal Robert Sarah

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Speaker 8: of Guinea.

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Speaker 1: So Roger when for folks that aren't even familiar with

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Speaker 1: the way the College of Cardinals works, for the understanding

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Speaker 1: of them, to be able to be voted on at all,

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Speaker 1: one must be a member of the cardinals. And so

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Speaker 1: this is your highest wrong of the prelates of the church,

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Speaker 1: other than the papacy itself. From those ranks, someone must

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Speaker 1: be chosen. It doesn't have to be a cardinal, but

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Speaker 1: it is generally a cardinal. And I believe one of

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Speaker 1: the requirements is that they must be under eighty years old.

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Speaker 8: That is one of the great disadvantages. It's one thing

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Speaker 8: to say that the pope should be under eighty, but

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Speaker 8: to deny a vote among the cardinals for those cardinals

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Speaker 8: who are over eighty years this.

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Speaker 6: Makes no sense to me. In fact, somebody.

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Speaker 8: Who's eighty years old would be very wise as someone

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Speaker 8: you would want voting. We had a president Ronald Reagan,

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Speaker 8: he was eighty when he left office. He was among

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Speaker 8: our greatest presidents. I think Donald Trump is seventy seven.

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Speaker 8: Why would you exclude those over eighty, unless, of course

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Speaker 8: it's politics, which is what this is about.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's right, and this is a new So basically

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Speaker 1: the idea is then that creates basically a quorum of

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Speaker 1: people who were not appointed by previous Pope, so Benedict

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Speaker 1: or any of the jump all the second cardinals that

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Speaker 1: they're so around that they wouldn't be able to participate

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Speaker 1: in the voting.

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Speaker 7: And then it sets it itself up in such.

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Speaker 1: A way where Francis essentially is sort of giving the

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Speaker 1: inside track to his own successor. Do you believe that

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Speaker 1: Pope Francis has picked a successor?

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Speaker 6: My guess is he probably has.

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Speaker 8: Look it's disappointing because Jack, like you, when I was

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Speaker 8: raised in the church, it was a bulk work of

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Speaker 8: anti communism.

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Speaker 6: I watched.

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Speaker 8: Father Fulton Sheen on wpi X in New York growing up.

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Speaker 8: That Catholic Church does not seem to exist except for

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Speaker 8: certain parishes, and outspoken conservatives like Burgano and others are

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Speaker 8: actually excommunicated when they disagree.

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Speaker 6: With this pope.

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Speaker 8: Now I've seen this pope say that the Bible specifically

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Speaker 8: says that Jesus Christ was opposed.

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Speaker 6: To private property rights. That's not true, that's false. So look,

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Speaker 6: the Bible is a practical document.

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Speaker 8: I didn't always know this, I know it today, and

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Speaker 8: it can be read for its literal word, but some

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Speaker 8: of the things that have been projected onto it are shocking. Yes,

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Speaker 8: as Catholics, we have to have a concern for the poor,

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Speaker 8: but in both the Old Testament and the New hard

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Speaker 8: work is highly prized, self enterprise and self responsibility. These

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Speaker 8: are also enumerated in the Bible. You would know it

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Speaker 8: from this Pope.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's exactly right, Roger. And in fact, there are many.

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Speaker 1: Items of doctrine, capital punishment and others that have been

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Speaker 1: long standing practices within the Church. The Pope Francis and

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Speaker 1: the Jesuit and he is of the Jesuit stripe, that

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Speaker 1: have sought to overturn a doctrine that has been in

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Speaker 1: touch for a long time. By the way, this is

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Speaker 1: also and we've been discussing it here on the show

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Speaker 1: at op ed Inhumanevents dot com.

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Speaker 7: That went quite viral.

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Speaker 1: Because we've been discussing the effect that this has had

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Speaker 1: on one Amy Cony Barrett, where she seems to have

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Speaker 1: taken Pope Francis's words and rhetoric over the actual doctrine

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Speaker 1: of the Church, and certainly over the jurisprudence of the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court itself and the Constitution itself and is taking

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Speaker 1: sort of these ideas of Pope Francis and seemingly putting

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Speaker 1: them into her decisions rather than looking at the long

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Speaker 1: standing practices of the church. If she is she claims

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Speaker 1: to be a practicing Catholic, what about Thomas Aquinas, What

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Speaker 1: about Augustine of Hippo, What about the church bothers? What

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Speaker 1: about all of the popes prior to Pope Francis who

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Speaker 1: have been in long standing opposition to many of the

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Speaker 1: things that he said. Well, she seems to be applying

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Speaker 1: that to her voting now, and it has led to

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Speaker 1: situations where she'll say that the President of the United

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Speaker 1: States doesn't even have authority to defund programs.

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Speaker 8: You know, back at the time that she was under consideration,

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Speaker 8: the great argument was that she was both a great

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Speaker 8: pro life champion.

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Speaker 6: I was skeptical about her appointment.

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Speaker 8: Then, Think how different things would be if President Trump

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Speaker 8: had appointed Judge Andrew napolotonom to the court, who I

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Speaker 8: think he should have pointed Gorsich is somewhat a libertarian,

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Speaker 8: being joined on the court by Napoloitano, another libertarian. We

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Speaker 8: have a very different day today on the so called

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Speaker 8: Roberts Court. Amy Comy Barrett has been a horrific.

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Speaker 6: Disappointment. Frankly, so has Kavanaugh.

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Speaker 8: But if you knew understood Kavanaugh's ties to the Clintons

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Speaker 8: and the Bushes, you would have understood that prior to

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Speaker 8: his being appointed as well.

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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's very sound, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's something where look, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: us have talked about this, and I came out with,

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Speaker 1: you know, perhaps a little bit provocative article, but hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of on brain for me where

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Speaker 1: I said that this shows the danger of Republican DEI

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Speaker 1: because people kept saying when you needed a nominate a

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Speaker 1: woman to replace Ruthpeter Ginsberg, and Trump needs to nominate

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Speaker 1: a woman because it was an election year. It was

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty at the time, and as it turned out,

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Speaker 1: it had no effect on the election whatsoever. Obviously, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of other issues with the twenty twenty election,

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Speaker 1: but it's also painted us into a corner where just

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Speaker 1: because she was pro life, and certainly there's no shortage

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Speaker 1: of pro life conservatives in legal field, now we've got

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Speaker 1: someone who's essentially a pro life liberal on the court

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Speaker 1: for the rest of her life.

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Speaker 7: Stay tuned, be right back with more.

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Speaker 1: Roger Stone myself here, Real America's Voice and our three

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Speaker 1: of the Charlie Kirk Show on Salem Radio.

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Speaker 7: Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 6: If you're that fantastic.

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Speaker 7: Book everybody's talking about it, you'll get it.

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Speaker 6: And he's been my friend right from the beginning of

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Speaker 6: this whole year.

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Speaker 5: In full event, and we're going to go around and

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Speaker 5: make amen.

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Speaker 12: Ryan Ruth will appear for a status hearing in Florida.

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Speaker 12: He's set to go to trial this fall. However, both

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Speaker 12: of these cases still yielding a lot of questions. President

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Speaker 12: Trump yesterday in the Oval Office was defiant and now

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Speaker 12: he has allies leading both the FBI in Cash Patel,

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Speaker 12: the director, and Secret Service Director Sean Current.

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Speaker 7: Here's more from the President yesterday.

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Speaker 5: They are giving me a report next week sometime, and

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Speaker 5: I do believe I'll be releasing I want to release

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Speaker 5: the report I've been at.

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Speaker 6: Maybe there's a reason that we shouldn't, so I don't.

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Speaker 5: Want to get too far ahead of my skis, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: I would be very willing to release.

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Speaker 12: The authority say he waited for hours in the bushes

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Speaker 12: at the President's golf club in West beat plas September,

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Speaker 12: hoping to take a shot. A secret Service agent luckily

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Speaker 12: thwarted that plot and Ruth was later captured.

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Speaker 10: When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to human

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Speaker 10: events with Jack Bosobek.

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Speaker 7: All right, Jack Soger back live with Roger Stone.

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Speaker 1: You saw that clip there in the quick break through

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Speaker 1: those of you watching on TV that Ryan Ruth will

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Speaker 1: be in court today. We're also getting breaking out of

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Speaker 1: that case that one hundred, more than one hundred federal

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Speaker 1: agents have handled evidence in the Ryan Ruth case, and

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Speaker 1: they had The FBI was required to buy a special

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Speaker 1: ten terabyte drive for the discovery in this case Ryan Ruth.

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Speaker 1: Of course we broke the story about his ties to

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Speaker 1: the Azov battalion over in Ukraine. The fact remains that

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Speaker 1: he was a Ukrainian foreign fighter who then came to

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Speaker 1: to the United States using a Soviet style rifle to

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Speaker 1: attempt to kill Donald Trump. Roger, you've written about the

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Speaker 1: jfk assassination extensively. We obviously, of course, are waiting for Annapolina,

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Speaker 1: Luna and the others on this task course to release

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Speaker 1: those files. Do you believe that President Trump will actually

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Speaker 1: be able to get this information out in front of

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Speaker 1: the American people.

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Speaker 8: I think it's absolutely essential that he does. In both

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Speaker 8: the case of Butler, Pennsylvania and the case regarding West Pump,

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Speaker 8: we still have more questions than we have answers, and

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Speaker 8: I think that's due to a cover up. Let's take

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Speaker 8: the Butler. We know that there's a man with a gun.

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Speaker 8: The Secret Service knows that, the state and local police

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Speaker 8: know that. They know that he's inside the preventer for

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Speaker 8: ninety one minutes. He's been seen with a range finder

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Speaker 8: and a firearm, Yet nobody informs the president's direct detail,

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Speaker 8: and the President is not evacuated. The federal, state, and

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Speaker 8: local police are all on different radio frequencies, so they

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Speaker 8: can't speak to each other. The Secret Service declines two

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Speaker 8: offers by the local police to conduct drone surveillance of

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Speaker 8: the entire sealed perimeter area, yet they don't end up

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Speaker 8: doing it themselves as they say they're going to, because

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Speaker 8: they say they can't get their federal technology, which is

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Speaker 8: new to them, to actually operate. The building should have

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Speaker 8: been searched and sealed under the Secret Service manual.

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Speaker 6: But of course it wasn't.

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Speaker 8: And we also have the situation in which the man

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Speaker 8: they claim shot President Trump, Thomas Matthew Crooks, is shot

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Speaker 8: and killed because well likely Harvey Oswell. Dead men tell

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Speaker 8: no tales. We can see still photographs of him talking

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Speaker 8: on the telephone, but our government agencies can't tell us

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Speaker 8: who it is he was talking to. Apple refuses to

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Speaker 8: turn over his records. They had no problem turning over

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Speaker 8: my records to Robert Mother before they even got a

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Speaker 8: subpoena for them. So yeah, I think it reeks of

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Speaker 8: cover up. In the case of West Palm Beach, here's

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Speaker 8: a man that we're told is indigen is behind in

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Speaker 8: his rent payments, he's behind in his alimony. Yet he

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Speaker 8: can afford to travel to all these European capitals where

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Speaker 8: we've seen pictures of them, including Kiev. He can afford

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Speaker 8: to post a website to recruit mercenary fighters to go

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Speaker 8: and fight in Ukraine. How did he get a gun

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Speaker 8: in the United States? He certainly didn't fly here with one. Now,

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Speaker 8: he had no trouble flying here because unlike Telsea Gabbard,

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Speaker 8: this guy evdently was not on a secret TSA domestic

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Speaker 8: terrorist watch list. But it looks to me like he

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Speaker 8: should have been. So I say this constantly in my

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Speaker 8: own shows. You've said it as well, Jack, Praying for

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Speaker 8: our president is one of the most important things we

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Speaker 8: can do to him today. They've tried to kill him twice.

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Speaker 8: I say they the deep State, and that doesn't mean

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Speaker 8: they will not try again. In fact, given the momentous

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Speaker 8: reforms and his drive for full disposure of the epic corruption,

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Speaker 8: waste and yes, absolute treason within our government, he's very,

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Speaker 8: very dangerous to them. He's an existential threat to the

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Speaker 8: deep state today.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right, and we need all of the information Roger

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Speaker 1: tell us about I understand you have an announcement about

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Speaker 1: a new.

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Speaker 7: Evening show that's going to be going on weeknights.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's great Jack on seventy seven WABC and the

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Speaker 8: Apple Audio Network Red Apple Audio Network. Pardon me, I'm

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Speaker 8: now doing a show in primetime every.

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Speaker 6: Night at eight pm Eastern.

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Speaker 8: You can get that by going to WABC radio dot

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Speaker 8: com WABC radio dot com every weeknight and then Sunday

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Speaker 8: still two hours now on Sundays that's the Rogerstone Show.

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Speaker 6: You hear it all by going to WABC radio.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of Rogerstone content. And do you still

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Speaker 1: have the website up at stone zone dot com.

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Speaker 8: For the books, absolutely, you can go to stone zone

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Speaker 8: dot com. Still turning out print journalism there. I've got

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Speaker 8: a new piece up on Andrew and Christian Tate coming

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Speaker 8: to Florida. I've got a new piece is about to

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Speaker 8: go up on the parallels between President Nixon and to

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Speaker 8: President Trump, many many many parallels. The fact they're both

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Speaker 8: trying to extract America from a costly war, the fact

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Speaker 8: that they deeply distrust the DC bureaucracy and the liberal media,

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Speaker 8: many many many parallels.

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Speaker 1: And also both set up by the deep state. Rogerstone,

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Speaker 1: God bless thank you so much for your time with

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Speaker 1: us here today, Human Events Daily. Once again, ladies and gentlemen.

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