WEBVTT - Animation Guild, Dog Man, Harley Quinn, and Common Side Effects

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Well, yeah, I forgot spoilers. We don't have to,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no spoilers. I'll just do it anyway though, warning

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<v Speaker 1>this episode contains no spoilers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>Concepcion and on Thursday night, and welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 2>on you to listen to us.

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<v Speaker 5>And in today's episode, the State of Animation, we are

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<v Speaker 5>going to be doing a little short news section previously

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<v Speaker 5>on talking about the Animation Guild contract which was recently ratified,

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<v Speaker 5>and the impact of dog Man and its recent success.

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<v Speaker 5>You might be like, what's dog Man if you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have kids, but we'll talk about it because it's one

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<v Speaker 5>of the most successful comic books in the world and

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<v Speaker 5>now it is a very successful movie. And then we

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<v Speaker 5>will be catching up with Harlequin season five, The future

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<v Speaker 5>of the DC Animated Universe. What's happening with that Blue

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<v Speaker 5>Beetle animated series We've been promised, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about one of the biggest new series that's dropped

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<v Speaker 5>recently called Common Side Effects.

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<v Speaker 3>But first previously on First Up in News.

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<v Speaker 1>The Animation Guild, which is the union that represents five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand workers in the animation industry in the US. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very important caveat only in the US, ratified its new

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<v Speaker 1>contract with a voting quorum of seventy six point one

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<v Speaker 1>percent in favor. And this new deal provides protections along

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<v Speaker 1>with wage increases and stipulations about.

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<v Speaker 3>How, when and why AI could be.

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<v Speaker 1>Used, including the ability to consult with productions to identify

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<v Speaker 1>alternative tools to generative AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Modes of creation.

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<v Speaker 1>This is obviously a huge deal, but also it's a

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<v Speaker 1>again it's a relatively small deal in a world in

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<v Speaker 1>which we're seeing a lot of animation take place.

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<v Speaker 3>Outside of the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and also as well, it's like any union kind

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<v Speaker 5>of deal. It was ratified with seventy six percent, but

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<v Speaker 5>the negotiators had included kind of more ambitious demands like

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<v Speaker 5>allowing members to opt out of using AI or to

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<v Speaker 5>opt out of having their work used to train AI,

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<v Speaker 5>and that did not come through. It also did not

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<v Speaker 5>agree to guild wide staffing minimums, which had been a

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<v Speaker 5>big deal. But it is an agreement and it means

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<v Speaker 5>people can keep working and are going to keep working.

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<v Speaker 5>And like Jason said, it's actually pretty interesting when you

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<v Speaker 5>think about it in the context of this being five

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<v Speaker 5>thousand jobs within the US, but when we're watching companies

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<v Speaker 5>like Amazon with Invincible, and you know, other big companies

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<v Speaker 5>go like Netflix with production IG Studio IG going to Korea,

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<v Speaker 5>going to Japan, going to these different places. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>interesting and notable for state of animation. But we'll see

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<v Speaker 5>where any of us are by the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 5>because who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>The comment from the Animation Guild Rep. Steve Kaplan says,

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<v Speaker 1>in part quote, disagreement is the next step forward in

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<v Speaker 1>our goal to create the strongest contract for our members.

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<v Speaker 1>The advanced sins made here are plenty, but there's also

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<v Speaker 1>much work to be done with regard to addressing the

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<v Speaker 1>priority matters that were not fully answered, which Rosie kind

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<v Speaker 1>of touched on there, including some more detailed AI protections

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff about minimum staffing, which is something that the

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<v Speaker 1>Writers Guild is also dealing with. Next up, dog Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You may if you've been to the movies recently, you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the trailer for dog Man, Yes, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>adaptation of the comic book series by the same name,

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<v Speaker 1>created by Dav Pilkey, who is one of them. He's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the most successful illustrator creators out

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<v Speaker 1>there right now. The story is about Again, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the trailer, you know about this. This is about

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<v Speaker 1>It's It's basically the most cudly form of copaganda that

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<v Speaker 1>there is exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>It's up there with Paul Patrol for like kids copaganda.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Paw Patrol is significantly more fascist than dog Man,

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<v Speaker 1>but still it is like a cute and cudly version

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<v Speaker 1>of coppaganda in which a doghead is placed on a

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<v Speaker 1>cop body.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I like sadity of the fact that it's like a

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<v Speaker 5>dumb cop and his very smart dog a blown up

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<v Speaker 5>because the dog the cop is dumb, and the doctor

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<v Speaker 5>basically put the dog's head on the CoP's body.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not me putting my projection of policing on this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is literally, like the description, this is what the copies.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and but dog Man can't talk, even though the

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<v Speaker 5>other animals can.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. And here's the thing about dog Man.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids be loving it. It's a hit, huge hit,

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<v Speaker 1>both in book, both in book and movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Form, exactly like it's actually hard to put into words.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, how popular.

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<v Speaker 5>In twenty twenty four, dog Man the Scarlet Shredder by

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<v Speaker 5>Dad Pilkey, which is the twelfth book in the series.

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<v Speaker 2>It sold twelve million.

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<v Speaker 5>Six hundred and sixty seven and eighty copies in the

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<v Speaker 5>US alone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's this man sells more.

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<v Speaker 5>Comics than X Men, Spider Man, all that stuff put together.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh way put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this has been.

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<v Speaker 5>The situation since day dot with both Captain Underpants and

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<v Speaker 5>dog Man. Dog Man is a spin off of Captain Underpants,

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<v Speaker 5>and he is just absolutely one of the people keeping

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<v Speaker 5>the book publishing market and the comic book market afloat.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's very.

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<v Speaker 5>Interesting to then see how this movie, which outperformed what

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<v Speaker 5>they thought it would made thirty six million dollar debut,

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<v Speaker 5>get into the top ten openings of January of all time,

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<v Speaker 5>and it also opened ten million dollars more than when

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<v Speaker 5>they did the Captain Underpants movie, which was open to

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three million dollars in twenty seventeen. So yeah, very

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<v Speaker 5>interesting to see this. Another success for Dave Pilky. This

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<v Speaker 5>man is unstoppable. And if you are a comic book

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<v Speaker 5>lover who has kids, then you've probably already seen it.

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<v Speaker 5>But if not, Dave's Pilky. He's a he's a guy

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<v Speaker 5>that the kids love.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't get enough. And there's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Captain Underpants books enough.

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<v Speaker 2>They cannot get enough of dog Man.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's a huge win for animation and also a

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<v Speaker 5>big win for Universal who made this movie, put it

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<v Speaker 5>out there, and have now come.

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<v Speaker 2>Up with the biggest opening of twenty twenty four so far.

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<v Speaker 1>It's they basically found buried treasure with dark Man. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's the great thing about about a dog cop that

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<v Speaker 1>can't speak, can't lie up. Next, we're stepping out of

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<v Speaker 1>the airlock to talk about the future of DC Animation.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, okay, DC Animation, what's next?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with Harley Quinn Season five, which is ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I believe it's on episode three on HBO

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<v Speaker 1>and Max. I have not yet started watching this excellent

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<v Speaker 1>and hilarious new season to an excellent hilarious series. But

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<v Speaker 1>our super Joelle has been watching it, and so let's

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<v Speaker 1>tap her in.

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<v Speaker 3>To talk about it. Joel, what's the update on Harlequin

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<v Speaker 3>Season five?

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all?

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<v Speaker 3>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 7>What I really appreciate about season five so far, it's

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<v Speaker 7>like you've been following this journey of it's really should

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<v Speaker 7>be called Harley Quinn Poyson Ivy.

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<v Speaker 3>I really it's a little hardsome to me.

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<v Speaker 7>That's just called Harley Quinn. It's really about the two

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<v Speaker 7>of them in their relationship, and you see, like a

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<v Speaker 7>classic friends to lovers are from like seasons one through

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<v Speaker 7>three and season four, they're officially together and they're like

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<v Speaker 7>trying to figure out what the relationship looks like now

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<v Speaker 7>that Ivy has moved on to become like CEO of

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<v Speaker 7>the Legion of Doom, and Harley is trying to be

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<v Speaker 7>a good guy with the Bat family, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 7>our jobs are in opposition to each other. How do

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<v Speaker 7>we work through that? So keeps it always grounded in relationship,

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<v Speaker 7>which I love, But they also never forget that they're

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<v Speaker 7>in a DC world and so Gotham is going through

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<v Speaker 7>it's like fourth Apocalypse since the show starts they've got

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<v Speaker 7>giant rats knocking helicopters out of the sky and lakes

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<v Speaker 7>of losing like green sludge that could turn you dead.

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<v Speaker 7>So they decided to go to Metropolis to catch a

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<v Speaker 7>break and to bring some new energy into their life

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<v Speaker 7>they're suffering from. We've been in a relationship the honeymoon

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<v Speaker 7>periods over. What does our relationship look like now? But

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<v Speaker 7>in Metropolis it's it's all steel and shiny and hyper clean,

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<v Speaker 7>and there's something going on under the surface. Everything looks

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<v Speaker 7>really good up top, but like, what's going on underneath?

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<v Speaker 7>You get into some more of Ivy's backstory. How did

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<v Speaker 7>she turn into poison Ivy? It's all really really good

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<v Speaker 7>and fun, and I have so many questions about how

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<v Speaker 7>the show is still on the air. It confuses me.

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<v Speaker 2>Five seasons in five.

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<v Speaker 7>Seasons of an animated show is very long.

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<v Speaker 2>We are woman led show, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>It's in the aut animation space of like it's varying

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<v Speaker 5>towards Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>And moy for longevity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, at this.

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<v Speaker 5>Point, like, which is very brad that we get shows

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<v Speaker 5>like this? Okay, how do being moved to Metropolis got them?

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<v Speaker 5>Such like a fantastic location for those first four seasons.

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<v Speaker 5>How does being moved to Metropolis impact the season.

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<v Speaker 7>It's interesting to see them outside of their native home.

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<v Speaker 7>If Gotham is the dark, edgy place where everyone really

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<v Speaker 7>knows their name, that's the that's their home. They have

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<v Speaker 7>long standing reputations that have really defined who they are

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<v Speaker 7>as individuals. They could step outside of those reputations when

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<v Speaker 7>they go to Metropolis, which is really fun. So there

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<v Speaker 7>I've seen as like an inventor and somebody who just

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<v Speaker 7>like loves the planet and wants to save it, and

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<v Speaker 7>that's great. So she's not a villain in the eyes

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<v Speaker 7>of the people there, and it changes how she sees

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<v Speaker 7>herself and for Harley, she's a chaos agent in a

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<v Speaker 7>very sterile controlled world. And so far they have Lena

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<v Speaker 7>Luther's introduced this season, and she's very fun. You could

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<v Speaker 7>tell there's she's evil, but like how evil and to

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<v Speaker 7>what angle?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't really know yet.

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<v Speaker 7>We're only a few episos, We're only three episodes in,

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<v Speaker 7>but she sort of keeps protecting Harley from her own

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<v Speaker 7>consequences and you're like, how long is this gonna last?

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<v Speaker 7>And does she need Harley? And is she trying to

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<v Speaker 7>drive away between my favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, is this that turning into a

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<v Speaker 5>like a love triangle like we had early on with Catwoman.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm very excited because the third episode is called Floronic Man,

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<v Speaker 5>so that means we're really getting into more swamp thing territory.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, but kind of absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm really excited.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for checking in, Jos And what

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<v Speaker 5>would you watch your one line pitch for somebody who

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<v Speaker 5>hasn't listened to it, who hasn't watched it yet and

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<v Speaker 5>wants to watch it.

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<v Speaker 7>If you like queer women behaving atrociously.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's diabolical.

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<v Speaker 7>Limits You're violent, but super funny and yet somehow still grounded.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's got some of the best second dary here's

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<v Speaker 7>the real one. ALENTII plays clay Face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true, he's pop bad.

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<v Speaker 3>He's excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Thanks guys, Thanks to all.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up in DC Animation News, more Blue Beatles stories.

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<v Speaker 1>The Blue Beetle movie didn't hit in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>Warner Brothers was hoping it would, but they're not giving

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<v Speaker 1>up on the superhero and are looking to continue his

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<v Speaker 1>stories through animation. Miguel Puga has been working on the

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<v Speaker 1>project since early this year, and we'll serve as the

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<v Speaker 1>project showrunner, with director Christian Martinez said as writer, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>No real date yet.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's exciting we get the Soolo Marduena, who plays

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<v Speaker 5>Blue bet Ol Jaimehnandez in this. He said, I'm ready

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<v Speaker 5>to come back with hitting hot, this anime, with this

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<v Speaker 5>animated project, hoping to get it settled out this year

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<v Speaker 5>to show everyone next year.

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<v Speaker 2>So fingers crossed. And I think it.

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<v Speaker 5>Is really really cool that this is like one of

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<v Speaker 5>the only characters that James Gunn saw value in bringing back.

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<v Speaker 5>And I totally understand because the movie is actually totally charming,

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<v Speaker 5>fun suite, but it hit during the Jewel strikes. Sholo

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't promote it, neither could anyone else. And I'm really

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<v Speaker 5>happy that we're going to get to see how May

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<v Speaker 5>come back Hi May rays and find his way in

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<v Speaker 5>this new DC world. And as we know from Creature Commandos,

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<v Speaker 5>if we get him and animation, then it's likely that

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<v Speaker 5>we could also see him come back in the live

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<v Speaker 5>action stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's very excite.

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<v Speaker 1>In other news, ongoing series happening right now on hbon Max.

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<v Speaker 1>Common Side Effects created by Steve Helly, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>producer and I think a writer. Also on the office

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<v Speaker 1>end veep Uh and Joseph Bennett, who also created Scavenger's Reign.

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<v Speaker 1>The whoa criminally criminally underrated animated series, only got one

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<v Speaker 1>season at.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the best shows ever made.

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<v Speaker 3>Just truly unique.

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<v Speaker 1>Show, I believe on Netflix now you can watch right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But the show is about the culture of an outlaw

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<v Speaker 1>psychedelic drug entrepreneur who is being chased by the Feds.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a quote from Helly.

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<v Speaker 1>We were interested in guys like Terrence McKenna and Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Stammetz and Wade Davis, fringe figures who for better or

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<v Speaker 1>were start introducing new strange ideas into the world. This

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<v Speaker 1>really tickled me because as a person who in college

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<v Speaker 1>went to a lot of raves, I am very familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with Terrence McKenna, whose those voice talking about the the

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<v Speaker 1>the animal vegetable, when you take into your life the

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<v Speaker 1>nosis of the light filled vegetable, the psychedelic plants that

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<v Speaker 1>have stabilized the sane societies like I have heard that

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<v Speaker 1>voice droning over ambient music in the back chill rooms

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<v Speaker 1>of raves so many times, and this show really captures

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<v Speaker 1>something of both the wonder of that kind of culture

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<v Speaker 1>and also the outlaw aspect of it of it too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really fun. The art style is kind of like.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing else I've seen, is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really happy that we're kind of moving away from

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<v Speaker 5>the Rick and mortification where everything looked like Rick and Morty.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like after Archer, people try to make stuff look

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<v Speaker 5>like Archer. Rick and Morty is one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 5>shows in the world. Everything starts to look like Rick

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<v Speaker 5>and Morty. This show has its own unique aesthetic and feel,

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<v Speaker 5>and also, I think something that's really fun about it

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<v Speaker 5>is it has this kind of, like you said, this

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<v Speaker 5>outlaw tendency where it's like it's about conspiracy theories, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's also about the reality of big farma, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>also about people who are interested in weird stuff. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's also about like what drugs become legal, what drugs

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<v Speaker 5>become illegal. There's a lot to it, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>that if it keeps going as it started, this could

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<v Speaker 5>become kind of up there and seen as like one

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<v Speaker 5>of the great auto animation shows.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really really fun. Well, we're off Thursday, but we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be back Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>With a reaction to the long awaited Captain America Brave

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<v Speaker 1>New World.

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<v Speaker 2>He Taya.

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<v Speaker 1>We go into this film with a mixture of excitement

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<v Speaker 1>and dread, and we'll be talking about the Yellow Jacket

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<v Speaker 1>Season three, the premiere here it comes.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it good?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>To watch it? To watch it?

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<v Speaker 2>We have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we'll be covering the finale of the excellent

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<v Speaker 1>Your Friendly Neighborhood spider Man with special guest show runner

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Tremil.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye x ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sepsion and

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 5>Our executive producers are Joe Alminique and Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 3>Our supervising producer is Abuza.

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<v Speaker 5>Part Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack.

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<v Speaker 1>A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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<v Speaker 1>songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 5>Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and

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<v Speaker 5>Heidi our discord moderator