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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, has.

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Speaker 1: Hi ros dress? Please? Hey boo, this is Tabloid star

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Speaker 1: Roz Dresfelees. You're listening to Ghosted, you guys, our episode

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Speaker 1: last week. I hope you've listened to it. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people have this week. We actually Okay, So I

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Speaker 1: made it to People dot com. That's People magazine, and uh,

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Speaker 1: the story has been shared around all over the place

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Speaker 1: and made it in several different languages. We are international, honey.

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Speaker 1: Canadian News you got it, English News, you better believe it.

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Speaker 1: We're all over the place all because of the fabulous, sexy,

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Speaker 1: So thank you everyone that listened to it and shared

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Speaker 1: it and talked about it. Certainly a conversation starter and

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Speaker 1: certainly been giving me lots of thoughts about having sex

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Speaker 1: with a ghost. Now. I'm not the only one that

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Speaker 1: made it into the tabloids recently. Ghost related Also, Simon Cowell,

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Speaker 1: I found this article on the Daily Mail, it says

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Speaker 1: Simon Cowell's new fifteen million pound mansion is haunted by

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Speaker 1: the ghost of Antinous, the gay lover of Roman Emperor Hadrian. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's read this. Simon Cowell's most recent real estate investment

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Speaker 1: is said to have come with the soul of a

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Speaker 1: So Antonus, the lover of Hadrian, the ruler of the

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Speaker 1: that's a that's old queen honey. Levitt claims, as reports

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Speaker 1: the Son, that he himself brought Antonus's spirit into the

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Speaker 1: and there's also pictures of this statue of Antonas and

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Speaker 1: It was delivered in a crate. The hedge fun billionaire said.

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Speaker 1: When I was locking up, I heard the sound of

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Speaker 1: heavy objects being knocked over from the drawing room, where

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Speaker 1: Antonus was still lying in his box. The same happened

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Speaker 1: it's a tragic one. He was a favorite of Hadrian

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Speaker 1: So I also, of course, have our Facebook group, which

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Speaker 1: At the time. There were many more strange things, such

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Speaker 1: someone who wasn't home, and much more. Wow, Taylor, that's spooky.

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Speaker 1: So today we have got yet another incredible interview. This story.

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Speaker 1: It's just such a perfect ghost story. We got just

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Speaker 1: the It's like it's like a great whole, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm so honored to have in the studio Rain Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: Rain is from the legendary iconic Phoenix family of actors

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Speaker 1: It's called a Leikazatic, and I want you to check

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Speaker 1: that out because she is so talented and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're recording.

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Speaker 2: That's ghosty in itself.

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Speaker 3: You are so cool. I'm just like looking at you

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Speaker 3: and you're so cool. Wow, that's great vibe about you.

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan.

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan of yours.

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Speaker 1: Stop it are we best friends?

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Speaker 2: We might be new best friends.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's all fake. The ghost have brought us together exactly.

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Speaker 3: So you you have experienced lot lots of ghost experiences.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: Where Where are you originally from? Here? No? Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: If I were to like do the whole thing, my

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Speaker 3: See, you were cool my answers to such a simple question.

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Speaker 3: So I heard that you had.

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Speaker 1: Some ghostly experiences in Florida. I did, which that creeps me.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty special and I think having okay, so let's

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Speaker 2: and I have some creepy stories about.

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Speaker 1: Like a meeting. There's like a twelve step about.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy how that's so beautiful. But there's something creepy

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Speaker 1: Oh, those poor things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I, for a short time, although longer than

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Speaker 1: Now, how do I end up in Florida?

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Speaker 2: And I should say that I was married to a

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Speaker 2: be clear. I did not try to go and move

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Speaker 1: What is this town called?

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Speaker 2: So when my friends would come to visit me from

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Speaker 2: When my other friends came and stayed. They the next day,

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Speaker 2: And he did see. He's always seen other like ghosty,

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Speaker 3: You get that information and you literally are able to

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Speaker 2: Well, I was just like, yeah, that's what my other

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Speaker 2: of that, even that, I wasn't gonna let that ruin that,

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Speaker 3: Creepy the thought of like, all that sounds great and

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Speaker 2: Well, And that's what we led too, because basically after that,

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Speaker 1: It was a drag queen and it was the same person,

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Speaker 2: If I was, you would have done both the petticoat

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Speaker 3: However, I feel on that night, you know, if there's

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Speaker 2: Like those cutout dolls, are they had the cutout outfits.

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Speaker 2: No, maybe, but I don't think so, because it was

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Speaker 1: Now I have chills, and I don't think I could

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Speaker 2: I was like, basically like listen, dude, get out of

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Speaker 1: He just disappeared. Yes, he was like my bad.

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Speaker 2: So I had to do a little research at that

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Speaker 1: Did you go to like the library and the machine

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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, they don't tell you that, and

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Speaker 2: And I literally just was ashen. And then I noticed

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Speaker 1: Oh my, yeah, that is so sweet.

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Speaker 2: So I started, there's a beautiful graveyard in the town.

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Speaker 2: They were like, we have to go, we have to Wigi,

433
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: we have to and I don't like Gi, I don't

434
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 2: like Tuigi. They did Wiji, which it was kind of

435
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: weird because they were trying to get names of actual

436
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: people that were in there, and match them to the

437
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: graveyard because the graveyard is from the eighteen hundred. It's like,

438
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: so you know, there was a moment where that that

439
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: happened to me. That's even the least exciting part of

440
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of or the least like wow, mesmerizing, magical,

441
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: ghosty part was when human beings try to figure it out. Yeah,

442
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it was like it was creepy,

443
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: but I and I don't really like I actually, thinking back,

444
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: would wish I would have said, do not Wiji in

445
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: this place, like, because that just brought out.

446
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: More because that's what they say.

447
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: You got to close the door, and a lot of

448
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: times people don't think just ouiji and then they're like, oh,

449
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: that was fun, but then that can open it up

450
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: to more. Did you at any point talk to the

451
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 3: people that lived otherwise in the building or the antique

452
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 3: store or anything.

453
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: So the landlord? You know, I actually didn't. It was

454
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: still I know, it doesn't seem mild at all, but

455
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: it was mild enough that I and maybe it was

456
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 2: just like I didn't really want to get that detailed

457
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: and create more. Do you know how sometimes when you

458
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: talk about things and you share it with too many people,

459
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: or you start to see it more. It's like you

460
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: buy a red car and then all the cars are red, right.

461
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 2: And so I didn't want to encourage the freaked out

462
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: because I had rented this place as my new beginning,

463
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: and the last thing I wanted to do was make

464
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: it a creepy new beginning after so much toil to

465
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: get there.

466
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: You that's the opposite of me.

467
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: I know, But I mean there were things that over time,

468
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: you know, got really untenable. And I'll explain if you want,

469
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: I'll keep it.

470
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: Please, Okay, Oh, I'm fascinated.

471
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: So in regard to I'm just trying to think, I

472
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: don't want to do one thing. I guess the best

473
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: way In regard to your question, Yes, the woman who

474
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: did live there before, her name was I'll have to

475
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: make up a different name to protect the innocent, but

476
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: let's say her name was Sarah.

477
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: That's the name that I was thinking. No, I swear,

478
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: I almost just said it.

479
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: Oh, maybe that's her real name. She was an older woman,

480
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: and from what I somehow to do, so maybe she

481
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: her son died like she lost a son maybe during

482
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: living there. I don't know, but I think that was

483
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: because one day, so I never met her. She was

484
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: there the entire time that I was married with my husband,

485
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: as I like to call them. And one day I

486
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: was walking in the neighborhood and I was just about

487
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: to go inside, and she was. She this woman pulls

488
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: up at a long time me and goes, hi, I'm Sarah.

489
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: I used to live in your where you're living. I

490
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: hear you're living there now. It's like, yeah, that's great.

491
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: She was like, have you seen the children?

492
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: And children?

493
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: This is when I was like, this is not gonna

494
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 2: be fun anymore. Why does she have to bring up

495
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: the children? Why are kid goes so scary?

496
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: I talk about that all the time.

497
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, but what I have said on this

498
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: podcast is that their children and you just give them

499
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: fruit snacks or something.

500
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: And I go away.

501
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 2: They love Welch's gummy fruits.

502
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, a go gurt, you know, and if it has

503
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: to be a go it has to be converted into

504
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 3: ghost food go. Then you eat it and and you'd

505
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 3: give them the rapper.

506
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: Or you know, you burp and then it's like it's

507
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: the spirit of food just came out. I don't know.

508
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: Give them a snack, they'll go away.

509
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: I like that. That's good.

510
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: I think things.

511
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: Well. She then went on to say, because my son

512
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: would talk to them, I guess her son, who was

513
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: a kid at the time. You know, they would all convert.

514
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: They would. And this was just like she was acting

515
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: as normal as I had been acting about having multiple

516
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: ghost things happened to me there, almost as if the

517
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: whole town was like, yeah, we live in a ghost town,

518
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: deal with it. You know. For some reason, that was

519
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: one of the creepier things. Again, all the human based

520
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: things creeped me out more because that's in this realm.

521
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: And for some reason, yeah, it is you know, super

522
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: magical to think of other realms and them coming to

523
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: this one, and the fact that, you know, but I

524
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: believe in that. I you know, now there's probably other

525
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: realms we just can't see what's going on, but they're

526
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: here with us, right. So that's almost somehow more comforting

527
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: than when humans get involved, because then.

528
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, humans can be way creepy. I've read the news

529
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: about crazy humans in Florida.

530
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, some of those people.

531
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: I would rather have a petticoat lady over my bed

532
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: at night.

533
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: Exactly. Ooh, speaking of which, so let's get onto that story.

534
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: Not necessarily, I'm going to finish with what with my

535
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 2: run in with Ms Petticoat, but I will share a

536
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 2: quote unquote dream I had. I arrived from New York,

537
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: I had a show to play, and I took a

538
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: day nap in my haunted mansion. And I always put

539
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: pillows over my eyes because I can't deal with light

540
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: when I sleep, whether it's not dark or light, I

541
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: like to have like a heavy thing on my head.

542
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: And I had this crazy dream of wrestling this blonde

543
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: like stringy blonde, like really curly but like almost like

544
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: Afroba blonde, but huge like, and this woman was kind

545
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: of terrifying, and we just wrestled in the bed like

546
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 2: And I don't think it was actually a dream like

547
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: in my nap time, it was quote unquote a dream,

548
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: but it felt absolutely real, like I was fighting this

549
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: ghost during a nap. Right. We've talked about the children, but.

550
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: Didn't seem like you guys were like out to get

551
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: each other, like you were really like fighting or you're just.

552
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: Like kind of it was. It was like, yeah, it

553
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: was a wrestle to the something, somebody's gonna win, and

554
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: luckily I think I woke.

555
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: Up out of that.

556
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: But I also then had this so I have the

557
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: pillow over my eye, and this was one of the

558
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: I would say, probably one of the final straws. I

559
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: had the pill over my eye and I was sleeping,

560
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: and I had this sense, this presence that was there,

561
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: so like, you know, I just knew, and in my

562
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: dream or in my you know, I started talking to

563
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: it and saying, hey, you know, I'm here alone. You know,

564
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: I appreciate the company, like I'm not against the fact

565
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: that there's multiple people that keep showing up in my place,

566
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: but let's be friends, Like, you know, let's at least

567
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: be friends. I don't want to be creeped out by it.

568
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: It was what I was saying in the dream, and

569
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: so I reached my hand out. I said, I really

570
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: don't want to be afraid, so let's be friends. I

571
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: reached my hand out to shake hands with whomever. Like

572
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: I was completely blinded by this pillow and a satin glove,

573
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: a woman satin glove shook my hand. Oh my, and

574
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: it freaked me out so much that I quote unquote

575
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: woke up right and I looked like I woke up,

576
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: pushed the pillo off and looked, and a cat ran

577
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: out of my room.

578
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: A cat.

579
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no cats, I have no pets. I

580
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 2: had nothing like that. Like it was as if like

581
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: that that was the quickest exit for like outside of

582
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: just I don't know. It was almost like you know

583
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: how they say like witches have familiars or whatever, Like

584
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: she turned into a cat, and like that was what

585
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: woke Like that's cool, right, It was really cool that

586
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: one was like whoa, And so this was like, as

587
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, now, that's like what five or six different

588
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: things because of all my friends.

589
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Do you think the cat was real? Or do you

590
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: think the cat was a ghost?

591
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: I think it was ghosty too. I just think somehow

592
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: because of how quickly I like pulled my hand back

593
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: and ripped the thing off, like that was maybe the

594
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: quickest thing she came up with. I don't know. She

595
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: didn't want me, Yeah, she didn't want me to see

596
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: her in the whole thing, the petticoat, because I think

597
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: that was the petty my guess is with the satin gloves.

598
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: Oh, she was fabulous.

599
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: I know, I kind of wish i'd ever seen her

600
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: so one more kind of creepy, just natural disaster. Are

601
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: you ready for this one?

602
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: Or should I just stop all of it?

603
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: Okay? So I wildly for a second, I was you know,

604
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: you have rebound relationships and you'm like, you make a

605
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: mistake and you date some fashion photographers a dick. I

606
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: had that after the marriage. I was like, saw somebody

607
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 2: for a short amount of time, and weirdly, there was

608
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: this one weekend and I just knew, you know, I

609
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: knew he was rotten, and I knew he was a liar,

610
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: like at a certain point, but he very charming, right,

611
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: So I was like, and you know, you're like lonely

612
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: and like, all right, he's really cute, So I'll just

613
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: deal with that to you know, hang out, and he

614
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: like insisted i'd come visit him on the West Coast,

615
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: and when I did, I just I decided kind of painstakingly.

616
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: I'd had a show and I was like should I go?

617
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: Should I not? And I just left. I was in

618
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Tampa and I just went. And when I came back

619
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: my apartment there had been like this is strange because

620
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: I had never heard about it. There's something called heat

621
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: lightning that creates like a ball of energy that's so

622
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: ferocious that it can tear through matter like actual like

623
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: your home, and.

624
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: Like this is like an actual sciencey thing that happens

625
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: in Coldia.

626
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: Heat lightning. Yeah, there was a terrible storm while I

627
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: was gone, and my landlord basically said, so I got

628
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: back to like part of my closet looked like it

629
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: had had a like meteor had gone through what And

630
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, that's freaking weird, like that huge

631
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: like rip in the I mean, this is an old

632
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: building that's obviously weathered all kinds of storms. Yet there's

633
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 2: this thing that looked like it tore through my like

634
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: the roof into the closet, just strange, which had my

635
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 2: things in it. And she said, thank god you were

636
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: out of town this weekend because that particular lightning that

637
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: would have killed any human being because it would find

638
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 2: the warmth, it would find the living heat, Like if

639
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: I hadn't left to see this jackass, thank god. This

640
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: is why I think he's a wonderful human now, just

641
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: ostensibly in a far away kind of way. But if

642
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: he hadn't gon convinced me to go, chances are I

643
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: would have been killed in that apartment because of this

644
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: heat lightning.

645
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: It's joined the party yes.

646
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: They were like maybe trying to bring me in because

647
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: they're like, well, you want to be friends, come to

648
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: our side.

649
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: Sure.

650
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: So I that was a real like whoa wake up call,

651
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: like what I've never you know, I'm an old lady.

652
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of experiences and even like natural

653
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 2: disaster weather things. This was really weird that this massive

654
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: ball of lightning found its way into, of all places,

655
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: my haunted place. And I was told you would have

656
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: been killed if you were in there.

657
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: Wait, were there other people that lived in this building? No,

658
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: it was just one big apartment above an antique store.

659
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: And the antique store, let's be clear, was full of

660
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, ghosts belongings. I'm sure I

661
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: am the only other half of like the upstairs which

662
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: which was behind this door that was the laundry room,

663
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: and who knows what was there? I don't they you know,

664
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: I didn't go in there. It was just all story antique.

665
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: So like I lived just with a bunch of dead

666
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: people's things and them, I really And it was the

667
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 2: coffins and cask It was like where they embalmed people

668
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 2: and trees.

669
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: That are slowly dying around you. Oh, it's pretty rare.

670
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: Everywhere, and I felt like, you know, I believe that

671
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: sometimes when the body is disturbed after death too quickly,

672
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: that like this, like it takes a while for the

673
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: spirit to leave. And it's better to leave a body

674
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: for as long as it, like for eight hours on

675
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: dry ice, than it is to go like, ah, they're

676
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: dead and start doing stuff to it. And so to me,

677
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: that whole process, it's so I know that it's necessary,

678
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: but I'm sure there were plenty of cases, especially back then,

679
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: where it was like, ah, this kid was run over

680
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: by a horse, let's go and balm him and throw it,

681
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: you know, like and that that disturbs the spirit and

682
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: that's often why give a minute, Yeah, exactly.

683
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: It's like going swimming after eating a meal. It's like,

684
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: give me a minute. I'm quite ready for this.

685
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: Yet, exactly.

686
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

687
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think if there's

688
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: anything more ghosty.

689
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: But so you still hadn't talked to the landlord about

690
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: the ghosts the.

691
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: One time I talked to the landlord. And this is

692
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: kind of going to finish up my ghost story.

693
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 3: It's okay, I mean it's a good one. You're really

694
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: given the children what they wanted to hear today.

695
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: So, right, we know it's coffins and casket sales. We

696
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: know you've seen multiple ghosts now, friends have seen multiple ghosts.

697
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: It's just it's out of the bag. The cat's out

698
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: of the bag. Excuse the pun with the cat that

699
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: ran away from the satin glove. I mean I do now.

700
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm more curious now that I don't live there,

701
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: in terms of talking to the woman who lived there

702
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: for thirteen years in her children's stories, I mean, maybe

703
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: I could put you in touch with them, and you

704
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: guys could go on like a trip to Florida or

705
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: something if you ever feel.

706
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Like ooh, because I'm not brave when it comes to

707
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's pretty like hearing about it.

708
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, so I had all those experience they were

709
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: pretty rough, and I will admit that it had gotten

710
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: to where I obviously preferred to be there when like

711
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: my boyfriend was like I ended up starting dates in

712
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: one and he when he was around, and then otherwise,

713
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: you know, I'd spend a lot of time in New York,

714
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: so I'd be back and forth to the place, and

715
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: when I was alone, I was like, oh, it's kind

716
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: of getting Like, finally, after I don't know, it was

717
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: like two years, I decided it was kind of getting

718
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: scary to live there because of just just getting up

719
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: to his restaurant night was always like, Okay, oh am

720
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: I God, who's gonna trip me on my way to

721
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: the bad now? So?

722
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: Uh, but did you have like friends and people you

723
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: knew in this little town or was it just sort

724
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: of your home base and not in.

725
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: The actual town. No, Like my sister lived in the

726
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: in like a town twenty minutes from there. Okay, so

727
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: I mean I could always stay at her, but you know,

728
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: and I had friends and the landlord I really liked,

729
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: and she was a neighbor. So I always felt kind

730
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: of like, Okay, worst case scenario, run out screaming in

731
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: the middle of the night and go to her house

732
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: and go, what the F's up at this place? But

733
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I'm supposed to be an adult woman,

734
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: so I'm supposed to be able to handle this shit.

735
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: That's not what I would think, like.

736
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: And so the final thing that like I was already experiencing,

737
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: maybe I don't want maybe this is a little creepy,

738
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: and I had h I was woken in the middle

739
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: of the night, I had a landline by the phone

740
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: ringing three am, never good, never good, and it was

741
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: the creepiest male voice saying that he would do horrible

742
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: things to me.

743
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: What yeah, like clear as day, like this is a

744
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: human yeap. What did he say?

745
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: It was just very gnarly, you know, like Florida h

746
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: like that dark kind of I just like southern grab

747
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: sexual violence.

748
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god, did you have caller ID or did

749
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: you start sixty nine?

750
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't. I don't think it had

751
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: caller ID, and that would have been a good thing.

752
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: What I did immediately. This was when I finally reached

753
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: out to my landlord and said I got the most

754
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: disturbing phone call at three am. That that officially scared

755
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: me because that's a human being that I can you know,

756
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: in my estimation, like maybe it wasn't. Maybe again, it

757
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: was like some the guy with the hat being like,

758
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a human thing. I don't know. I'm

759
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: kind of always open to you never know. Sometimes they

760
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: can command actual physical things and do harm right. So

761
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: to me, no matter what, it was an absolute warning

762
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 2: like that was the first time that I felt even

763
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: though I know most people and you included when you

764
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: were like why didn't you leave? For why weren't you scared?

765
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: This for me was the final straw, because this was,

766
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 2: you know, a promise of some kind of like horrible

767
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: violence on my person. And I lived alone in a

768
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 2: house that had a joke for a lock on the door,

769
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, it was easy to

770
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: break it, like you could get on the roof. And

771
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: that was too much. That was too much mental gymnastics

772
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: for me, Like that was too much to spend my

773
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: nights wondering if this scary person that sounded really terrifying

774
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: was going to show up. So I asked her about it.

775
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: I said, do you know that someone? She said, you know,

776
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: there was someone in prison this prison. This prisoner kept

777
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: doing that on my answering machine, would just leave really gnarly,

778
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what do you mean, just a random prisoners, Like,

779
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 2: let's preak call with my one call a day. Yeah,

780
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to preak call this woman and say horrible

781
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: things on her message. So that it was a little

782
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: mysterious too, because I'm not sure what that meant, like

783
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it was someone that didn't like her that

784
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: you like, who just randomly picks numbers? Right, But this

785
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: is the other thing. I didn't have her number, Like,

786
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: I got my own phone line and my own number.

787
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't like, I don't think I I'm trying to remember.

788
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 2: But no, when I I had to get my name

789
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: on it and all of that, so I don't It

790
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: wasn't like I just grandfathered in her phone line. H

791
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: So because she was talking about her separate house across

792
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: the street, that that would happen to her.

793
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: Were you listed?

794
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: No, it was a ghost, I think so because I

795
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: wasn't listed, why would I listen? You know, that would

796
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: be really silly in a small town. If I'd listed myself,

797
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: I would have been stupid. Yeah, that's that's a ghost,

798
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: I think so. So for me, that was it. I

799
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, done, un dusted. That was fun. And

800
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: here's what's interesting is I actually my husband took the

801
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: place over to do he had music, you like, he

802
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: set up a recording in it because it's a beautiful

803
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: apartment right with high ceilings, really good for He made

804
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: a couple of records there, but he would only work

805
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: there in the day time and I very rarely if

806
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: he was tired crash. But there were always a lot

807
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: of bugs in like his sound equipped, Like he would

808
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: be recording and a huge hum would come throughout the whole,

809
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, and he'd have to and I don't think

810
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: he ever equated it. But when he would tell me,

811
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it's a ghost is They were

812
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: like seriously like making his recording, but it was daytime,

813
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: so they were always less active. It was always the

814
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: night that they'd come out, kind of.

815
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Which, why is it?

816
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: Why do they have to be extra scary? Know, except

817
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: for the petticoat lady, but she was like, quick, I'm

818
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: a cat.

819
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so cool, the thought of that being a

820
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: familiar like right, oh, I hope that's what that was.

821
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: I don't see how it couldn't have been. It wasn't

822
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: like I hopped up and looked around and the cat

823
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: was like me, oh, let me out. It was gone.

824
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 2: There was no pet.

825
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like, where did it run to?

826
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: Out of my So my bedroom faced like windows that way,

827
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: but the door was to my left, headed towards the

828
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: rest of the apartment. So I shook a hand and

829
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: the cat ran like when I went what and looked?

830
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: Then there was a cat that just through the door.

831
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: But it but it made its way outside of the

832
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: entire apartment, right.

833
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: No, it went through the door into the main part

834
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: of the apartment, but didn't exist when I went to

835
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 2: it was not a real cat.

836
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

837
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean either way, it's really crazy. If

838
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 3: it was a real cat, then it was like, oh,

839
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: this is a real familiar situation. But also it turns

840
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: into a ghost familiar like that's that's.

841
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: What I mean. It was not. It was like a

842
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 2: whole It was a party between her and her cat,

843
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: and they were both messing with me.

844
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. It's so cool. But my worst nightmare. Yeah,

845
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: so that's the end of the story.

846
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty well. I think after that, yeah,

847
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: after the phone call, and so I kept just just

848
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: to contextualize it even more. This was I think between

849
00:43:53,200 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: the years two thousand and six and just so two

850
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: thousand and six, I rented the house, the apartment, and

851
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: then my husband took it over. After I was like

852
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: that's it, which I think was around two thousand and

853
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: eight or nine, I was like, I can't do anymore.

854
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: All my things stayed in there.

855
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: I kept it.

856
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: It was almost like a mausoleum, but I'm still alive

857
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: of all my like you know, it was like out

858
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: like clothes, but like personal photos, like more family photos

859
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 2: and more personal items than anywhere else in my whole life.

860
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: I kept in this like ghost place. For some reason,

861
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: somehow that felt safe and smart to do. I don't

862
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: know why, but I felt like that was And then

863
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: just last is it Thanksgiving? Where are we now? New

864
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: Year's Christmas? Thanksgiving? I think it was Thanksgiving. I went home,

865
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: or I say it's home, because that's where it was, right.

866
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: I went to visit my husband and my sister, and

867
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Speaker 2: I landed, and I got an email from my landlord,

868
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: even though he was the one who had taken over,

869
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: but basically I was still technically she knew he was

870
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: like renting, but it was like that kind of thing saying,

871
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: I've the bank is foreclosed on me. I need to

872
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: like everyone's being kicked at all tenants, like the antique store,

873
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: you the other building I have, like I can't keep

874
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: the mortgage up and I need you to move out

875
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: effective immediately, like basically all my stuff would have been,

876
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: you know. But weirdly this happened the minute I landed,

877
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: I get this email from her.

878
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: She didn't have this coming, No, not at all.

879
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: And this is two thousand. Where are we in now? Nineteen?

880
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: It was eight the end of last year, twenty eighteen.

881
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: So from two thousand and six to eighteen, I maintained that, like,

882
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: technically I lived in there this whole time, right, So

883
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: that's what twelve years or something.

884
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

885
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: And happened to land there for a week, So most

886
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: of that week my husband and I were in there,

887
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: like getting his music out, getting all my personal things out,

888
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: and officially like really closed shop twelve years after renting

889
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: like something. So and in reality, if I probably do

890
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: the math, it's probably closer to thirteen, which is the

891
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: exact time that the other woman lived there, in the

892
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: exact time that my husband and I lived there, because

893
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: we just had our anniversary March third, which was thirteen

894
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: years divorced, same amount that we were together.

895
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

896
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: So something about that space and my you know, trajectory

897
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: or life and my was there was like all this

898
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: stuff was part of that. And so I always think

899
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: of things as blessings even when they seem cursed and

900
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: vice versa, because my main philosophy is everything is a maybe.

901
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: You think you'd got something that's so good and you're

902
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: so excited about it, and it turns to shit, you're terrified,

903
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: bummed about something. It's the worst thing that could ever

904
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: happen to you, and it becomes the best lesson or

905
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: teaching of your life. So this apartment equally was like

906
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: that for me.

907
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 3: This is a good story. Okay, we're gonna play a game.

908
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: It's my favorite game.

909
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: In the entire world that isn't called you know, it

910
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: is called EVP or ev plicse. Do you know what

911
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: EVP is?

912
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh God, I feel like I know you have to

913
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: remind me because I did hear it on your show,

914
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: But it's okay.

915
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 3: In EVP electronic voice phenomena, it is when ghost hunters

916
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: believe they've recorded a ghost and usually they do record something,

917
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: but then they take it into their own hands as

918
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 3: to saying what they believe it said. So I like

919
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: to find EVPs from innocent people on YouTube and they

920
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 3: say what they believe they heard, and I'm gonna make

921
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 3: you guess.

922
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so I'm gonna play. These are special Florida edition. Yeah.

923
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: So this one was posted by David Pierce Rodriguez. Uh,

924
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: he says prism Paranormal Research, Florida at Gold Coast Railroad

925
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: Museum in Miami is where they're at. Okay, and this

926
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: was recorded in a dining car at the museum.

927
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: All right, here it is, that's it.

928
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

929
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: So the investigator asked, are you in the back of

930
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 3: the car?

931
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: And this is what they get. I'll play it again, right,

932
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: So what do you think they said? Was it a

933
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: So she says, are you in the back of the car,

934
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: and then the ghost says, is it a bitch? Please

935
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: be cratzy. Maybe it was Italian ce back seat or

936
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: d not really.

937
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: Ce back seat?

938
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah you hear it?

939
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: Wait, I mean, how do we.

940
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: Know this is the thing? What?

941
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: Well? I mean, it's so.

942
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: Easy just to we're guessing what an investigator said.

943
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: Right, So this is an actual investigator, an investigator have

944
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: their license number and all that. Okay, here we go.

945
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Okay.

946
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 3: This one was from Tina Marie Weber. Tina Marie Weber,

947
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: and it's from Gold Gulf Coast Paranormal Research. This is

948
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 3: in Crestview, Florida. And I don't know what the location is,

949
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 3: but here's what we hear. It's more of a whispery one.

950
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's creepy. Let's hear it again.

951
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: Is it a your purse is okay, just like your person?

952
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: That's okay. B, we're not joking. See, you're first milking.

953
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it was a farmer ghost talking

954
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: to like a cow and it was like relieving, reliving that.

955
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, or d I want a personal pam pizza?

956
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: What was B? We're not joking.

957
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: Let me hear it. Please, personal plant pizza.

958
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like to me, but it's supposed

959
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: to be we're not joking, which is ironic.

960
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: That might be.

961
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: Please?

962
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, that's so sure? Please?

963
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: Well, hey, I guess that's about it.

964
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what fun. Thank you for letting me

965
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: expound and explore that story.

966
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding.

967
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: Very fine.

968
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: So tell everybody about your music and what's going on

969
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: with that and where we can find you and everything

970
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: that's going on.

971
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, well I have a single out.

972
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: I put my first ever single out under my name, congrats.

973
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 2: So if you go search Spotify for Rain Phoenix you'll

974
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: find it. And I'm making a record right now. So

975
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: that's where you'll find my record when it's out as well,

976
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: and some shows coming up I think in June, but

977
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: who knows. You can find me in all those silly

978
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: social things. I'm rain Jay Phoenix on Instagram and Twitter.

979
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: Oh and you can also find me at Launch Left

980
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: on Instagram, where we launch emerging left of center artists.

981
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: We have iconics, iconics and music. I Liketical icons of

982
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: music launch emerging bands. Check us out there. Love that,

983
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: but thank you because this was like good to re

984
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: live it with people in the daytime that I trust

985
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: in light and it was actually strangely, parts of it

986
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 2: were more creepy talking about it so far away from

987
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: the location than at the time, which you know, I

988
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: don't know if that just points to the fact that

989
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm incredibly dissociative, or if I genuinely at the time

990
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: I genuinely felt like if I have the courage to

991
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: live through this ghosty situation, I can do anything.

992
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh my yeah, there you go.

993
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

994
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: It's weird how when you look back at thinks like

995
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: I think about things like in my early twenties, to

996
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: situations I put myself in where like.

997
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: Looking back, I'm like, oh my god. By the time

998
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: you're just like whatever, like this is crazy, Yes, I

999
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: get it.

1000
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, thank you for letting me share my story.

1001
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: Of course, thanks for being here.

1002
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: You're awesome.

1003
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Rain. Oh my god, with

1004
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: that the cat story, I can't get over that. Guys,

1005
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. This is just everything's

1006
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: going great and I love it. Please keep telling your

1007
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: friends about the show so we can continue to grow.

1008
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: And I'm just I love hearing from you guys. And

1009
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: there's so many ways that you can get a hold

1010
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: of me. If you've got a ghost story now, of

1011
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: course I love it when you do it on Apple podcasts.

1012
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: If you give me five stars, I'm telling you it

1013
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: really really helps out the show. So if you can

1014
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: give me five stars, that'd be great. Write a review.

1015
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: You can include the ghost story there, or you could

1016
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: send it to me at ghosted by Roz at gmail

1017
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: dot com, or you could follow us on Facebook. You

1018
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: can like us on Facebook and follow us there. There's

1019
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: a page called Ghosted by Roz dress fALS. Then there's

1020
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: the group where you can share your stories and if

1021
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: you hear any ghost news, you can share it there.

1022
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: That's ghosted by Razor No sorry, ghosted by Roz dress

1023
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: fALS is the name of the group as well. I

1024
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: am on Instagram. Help my childhood dream come true of

1025
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: being an insta celebrity by following me at raz Fallese

1026
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: and I have a Facebook page for myself as well,

1027
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: and you can see me live. I'll be at the

1028
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: world famous Hollywood improv for my comedy game show, The

1029
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: Once Over, which is on the eleventh of May at

1030
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: nine pm, So I hope to see you there. Okay,

1031
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna reveal that next week. My seriously, one of

1032
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: my biggest dreams in the world came true. I got

1033
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: to sit down and talk to Cassandra Peterson, also known

1034
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: as Alvira, Mistress of the Dark.

1035
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 2: Ah.

1036
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: It was serious. Oh, It's the biggest deal in the

1037
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: world for me. And it's just such a perfect interview

1038
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: because not only is she just a horror icon, she

1039
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: is a comedic icon. She is so great to hear

1040
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: on a podcast, but she's also got an incredible ghost story.

1041
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: It is a ghost story. It reminds me so much

1042
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: of like American horror story Murder House, where she lived

1043
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: in this old, gorgeous house in the Hills that decade

1044
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: after decade had crazy incidents happen, and the ghost experiences

1045
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: that she had when she lived there, she saw full

1046
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: body apparitions. I won't give away too much, but I

1047
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: hope you can tune in next week because it is

1048
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: going to be huge. Jah all right, well that's it

1049
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: for this week. Thank you all so much for listening.

1050
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: Thank you to rain Phoenix, and thank you to everyone

1051
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: that shared and read our articles in the tabloids last week.

1052
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 1: I love you guys. I'm Ro's dressful ass and as always,

1053
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: I love you both living people and dead people. But

1054
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

1055
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Speaker 1: Came Back

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Speaker 2: Stars, a podcast network