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Speaker 1: forty seven. I'm Mike Keith with Amy Wells. Amy. How

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Speaker 1: have you been since seasons end? You know, Mike, I've

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Speaker 1: then you just stop. Everything is just kind of done.

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Speaker 1: So I've been trying to get my bearings in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: But it's been good. We're doing all right good. Jim

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Speaker 1: Wyatt is kind enough to join us from Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: dot Com Senior writer editor. I will pose the same question,

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Speaker 1: do you, Jim, what have you been doing since Sunday's

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Speaker 1: game ended? Well, a lot of follow stuff. Obviously, had

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Speaker 1: while just with follow stuff. What's gonna be a challenge obviously,

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Speaker 1: bracing for that. Here, as the season abruptly ends, we

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Speaker 1: begin with the news of the day. The Titans are

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Speaker 1: loose their offensive coordinator, Arthur Smith, head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, Jim Wyatt. Was this any surprise to you not?

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Speaker 1: By the way things played out during the course of

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it affects the Titans. You've got to

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Speaker 1: what things might look like. But I don't think Mike

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Speaker 1: Amy Two years ago, at this time, Matt la Laurie's

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Speaker 1: you look at their cap number, because they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to let people go. With the cap going down, or

430
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Speaker 1: let's say, best case scenario, it even stays the same

431
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Speaker 1: at one, nine eight, you're still gonna have to lose

432
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Speaker 1: some guys. Some of these teams, it's gonna be almost

433
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Speaker 1: impossible for them to make any big acquisitions based on

434
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Speaker 1: the fact that in order to do so, they're gonna

435
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Speaker 1: have to let a bunch of guys go. I mean,

436
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: the contending teams who are up against it are gonna

437
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Speaker 1: have to say goodbye to good players that they don't

438
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Speaker 1: want to get rid of amy because they're gonna need

439
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: the cap roo. I mean, it's just it is going

440
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Speaker 1: to happen, and I think that's it's going to be

441
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Speaker 1: a tough adjustment for a lot of fans. Thus, I

442
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Speaker 1: think it makes the draft even more important for a

443
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: lot of those clubs in twenty twenty one, and the

444
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: Titans are certainly included in that absolutely. But I think

445
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: that this is all kind of restoring the natural rhythm

446
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: to the National Football League. Like this year, it was

447
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: bananas how different the AFC and the NFC were dramatically different.

448
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: And I know that Mike you and I had had

449
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: conversations throughout the season just how did this even happen?

450
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: So it feels like the National Football League has a

451
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Speaker 1: really good way of kind of restoring balance back to

452
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Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever weird natural order, yeah, whatever terms

453
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Speaker 1: you want to use. But they find a way of

454
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Speaker 1: kind of coming back to the middle. And I think

455
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: this is going to be one of the ways that

456
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: the league does that is the cap is going to change.

457
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Speaker 1: Teams are going to have to get rid of players

458
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Speaker 1: that under normal circumstances they would not be getting rid of,

459
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: and other teams are going to end up picking those

460
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: players up, and everything's going to balance out a little bit.

461
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: It's like a forest fire. Yeah, what do you think

462
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: about that? I think that's an interesting observation there. It's true.

463
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and the Titans, obviously, you know, face with

464
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: some challenges here in Tennessee. You know, again we talk

465
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: about some of the free aides this team has, and

466
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: you know, the way I look at the team moving

467
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: forward is almost have two draft classes to work with

468
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: next year. We don't know what's going to happen with

469
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Wills, and I hate to even bring his name

470
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: up just because it's just leads to more questions. But

471
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: guys like Christine Fulton and guys you know, like Darrynton Evans,

472
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 1: you know, some of the other draft picks from this

473
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Speaker 1: year who didn't make as much of a contribution because

474
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Speaker 1: of injuries and other things. Are going to be back

475
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: in the mix trying to make that jump in year two,

476
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have a draft class you're going

477
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: to be expecting big things out of. So when you

478
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: talk about draft classes and how they can bolster teams

479
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: for next year, you know Titans are going to get

480
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: more buck from some of the guys who who were

481
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: expected to do more this year and really just didn't

482
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: for one reason. The other well, the Titans went into

483
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: the twenty draft not having to draft a starter. Some

484
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: years you go into a draft having to draft one

485
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: or two or three starters. And that was part of

486
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: the reason they went Isaiah Wilson where they did, because

487
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: they felt like the year of development would give him

488
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: a chance to eventually take his place. Now, nobody, including

489
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: anybody who knew him at Georgia, saw what happened happening.

490
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: I think everybody's surprised by this. And again you said it,

491
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: we don't know where it goes. What we do know, though,

492
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: is the Titans don't have to make any decision on

493
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: that right away. There's not a timetable on that. Many

494
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: people have asked me, when do they have to do

495
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: something about that, and the answer is, you know, when

496
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: whenever they decide to. Yeah, I mean, you know, the

497
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: hope is that he will kind of get himself together,

498
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: because this is a hinge. The team is trying to

499
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: help him. Teammates would love to see him kind of

500
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: help himself, so so so much changes on him. But

501
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: reality is, you'd like and again, we don't even know

502
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: what the off season's gonna look like this year. I

503
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: was gonna, you hope to get him in OTAs and

504
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: many camps and he kind of get himself together. You know,

505
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: a lot to be discussed there about what the offseason

506
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: looks like too, So you know, the hope is that

507
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: you can get you know, is give him a chance

508
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: to help himself get better on the field and then

509
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: kind of see what happens in training camp. Now that's

510
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: assuming a lot there because with him, obviously he has

511
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: to work through some things and has to put himself

512
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Speaker 1: in a position to succeed and he hasn't done that

513
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Speaker 1: to this point. Well, Christian Fulton, I think is a

514
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: big factor in that, because if you feel like he

515
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: can be he can be harder, then that changes your

516
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: calculus a little bit with what you're looking at Darrenton Evans.

517
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: You want to be your number two back. There's no

518
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: doubt about that. If Murchison is a guy who can

519
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: become a regular part of the rotation, maybe he's a starter,

520
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe he's a guy that when you're

521
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: in three down linemen, you feel like he can do it.

522
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Speaker 1: But Amy, I think Jim said it, well, we don't

523
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Speaker 1: even know about OTAs. We don't know when the combine

524
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: is we I mean, we don't really have much of

525
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: an idea. The Players Union does not want to have

526
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: OTAs anymore. They're saying we don't need them any longer.

527
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: We proved that we didn't need them. We're the only

528
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: sport that does an offseason practice program. The NBA doesn't

529
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Speaker 1: do it. Major League Baseball doesn't do it. Although I

530
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: would argue what he calls spring train, but they would

531
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Speaker 1: say that's training camp. A. It's a confounding time for

532
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Speaker 1: a general manager like John Robinson and a head coach

533
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: like Mike Vrabel. Absolutely, And if you're in the draft

534
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: class of last season that Jim was talking about, gosh,

535
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: don't you just want some sort of answer? So you

536
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: can put together some sort of plan like back to

537
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: back years of uncertainty has got to be so frustrating

538
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: for those guys who all they want to do is

539
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: prepare and make the team. But you guys have been

540
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: around the NFL a lot longer than I have. Have

541
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: you experienced an off season with more question marks? Excluding

542
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: a lockout year, because those are hard for different reasons.

543
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: But have you faced an offseason with more question marks

544
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: than we have right now? Going into the twenty twenty

545
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: one off season. I was looking at this, and Jim

546
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: will remember this. Floyd Reese tried to keep the band

547
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: together as possibly could in two thousand and three and

548
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: two two thousand and four both He had to work

549
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: very hard to do it. He had to take the

550
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: chairs and shuffle them in different ways in order to

551
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: keep everything together. And the nice things Titans to who

552
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: their quarterback is, They know the running back is. They

553
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: know they've got a J. Brown, they know they've got

554
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Kevin Byard, they know they've got rashaund Evans, they know

555
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: they've got Jeffrey Simmons. So they've got a lot of

556
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: pieces in place, But how do you keep the other

557
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: pieces together and add some pieces in different places, knowing

558
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to subtract. I guess, Jim, that's what

559
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm going back to is this will be the most

560
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: different offseason for John Robinson that he's ever had. That's

561
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: the year that Floyd Reese had to make the decision

562
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: to you know, they've tried to keep it together, as

563
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: you said, and Derek Mason, Samari Roll, Kevin Carter, Fred Miller,

564
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: Robert Hole from Joe nat and they all those guys

565
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: are released alone with a couple of other restricts agents

566
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: who weren't tendered. I remember that so well, and that

567
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: was kind of a starting over process for this franchise

568
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: after such a good run. This is different. I mean,

569
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: this team is not in the mindset of starting over.

570
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: This is not a rebuild. You know, Kevin Byrd even

571
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: setting themselves on Monday in the zooms when we as

572
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: a players left the room. There are obviously some holes

573
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: on this roster and areas that need to improve. You're

574
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna do it with the draft, You're gonna do it

575
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: with free agency. I say, it's the most questions since

576
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: I've been around. When you don't know what the off

577
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: sings is gonna look like because OTAs a minicamp and

578
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: you've got so many free agents out there when you've

579
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: really got some questions still surrounding to your two twenty

580
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: draft class. It just creates a whole lot of uncertainty.

581
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: You hear so much about players improving so much from

582
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: year one to year two, Well what happens if there's

583
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: not an off season again? I mean, it throws a

584
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: wrench into things. And this is just not a Titaned

585
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: specific issue. This is going to be the case across

586
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: the league. And you know, I know coaches love to

587
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: have guys in the building for this offseason. I just

588
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna happen for this team. It's

589
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna be as much about guys that are already on

590
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: the roster improving than anything else. Yeah, that's what this

591
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: ball club's twenty twenty one is going to hinge on,

592
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: because I just don't think you're gonna be able to

593
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: go out and sign the dramatic free agent. Like listen,

594
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: all of us in every sport want that for our team.

595
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: Jim wants it for the Dodgers. I want it for

596
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: the Yankees. I mean, you, as us as a sports fan,

597
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: you love that. I don't think that's what the Titans

598
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: play is gonna be this year. I think it's gonna

599
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: be more about how do we keep good players, you know,

600
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: and how do we how do we not say goodbye

601
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: to good players that we want? And then the draft,

602
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean, picking at number twenty two, you know, you

603
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: to me, you've you're hoping that's an impact guy on defense,

604
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: right yeah, And I think if you look at the

605
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: team and you get one big acquisition back in cabal

606
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: of one, I mean that's you forget almost what an

607
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: impactful player you're all start in the season and him

608
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: and I think that was kind of exposed a little

609
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: bit in the playoff loss to the Ravens. I think

610
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: the offensive line needs to be retooled some Uh, we'll

611
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: see what happens there. Um um. I think that the

612
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: biggest offseason need in my mind is edge rusher and

613
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: whether that comes in free agency, whether that comes in draft,

614
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: probably should come in both. I mean, and I think

615
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: that's you've got to go about finding ways to help

616
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: the defense, and uh, that's that's that's priority one for me.

617
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: But I think you're looking for Kyle end In Bosh

618
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: Jason Babin in free agency, and for those old enough

619
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: to remember Amy, those were not big name free agents.

620
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: Jim Washburn pushed like crazy for Kyle vanden Bosch. He

621
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: had played four years in Arizona and had not done much,

622
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: had had a lot of injuries. He was a second

623
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: round pick. Jason Babin had been a guy that had

624
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of been all over the block, and then he

625
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: comes here and has one really good year. I don't

626
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be you're trying to make a deal

627
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: for Khalil Macker von Miller. You're looking for somebody who

628
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: can up their impact and can stay within your payroll, right.

629
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: I think you're looking for those guys, the Dennis Kelly's

630
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: of the world, the people who can come into a team,

631
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: be consistent, be reliable, make plays, and that's it. Like,

632
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: that's what this team needs to kind of supplement that

633
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: core group of guys that you were talking about that

634
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: this team has. There are a lot of successful, really

635
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: good players on this type team that are still going

636
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: to be here that we're sure we'll be here. So

637
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: if you can bring in kind of a supplemental cast

638
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: to improve the team as a whole and then start

639
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: adding to it with the draft and some of these

640
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: younger guys who are going to come in and learn

641
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: and grow and contribute as the season goes on. That's

642
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. I think. I think if you're

643
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: John Robinson, that's kind of what's in your brain. I

644
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: mean I even't talked to him, so I don't know,

645
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: but I would think that that seems like a good

646
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: strategy going into this offseason with so many question marks,

647
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: and do thank you, I've got to find one the

648
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: draft too, though. I Mean I thought those guys you'd

649
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: love to have a Bob and have a van and

650
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Boss type, but as we know those that's easier said

651
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: than done. I mean, those guys were gems who developed

652
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: tier and so you need to find one of those.

653
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: But I think you need to hit on somebody in

654
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: the draft that's going to help you for years to

655
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: come as well. And I kind of go back and

656
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: I'll talk about retool and offensive line and the reality

657
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: is you just need the offensive a lot to get healthy.

658
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: And you get Taylor one backing up left tackle, you know,

659
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: you get Sifold Ben Jones healthy again. I thought Nate

660
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: Davis played well. I think Dennis Kelly continues to do

661
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: a solid job, but you need to figure out what's

662
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: going on again. I hate they'll keep bringing Isaiah Wilson's

663
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: name up, but you're gonna need to either have him

664
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: develop or get some other players in there that can

665
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: help solidify that group moving forward as well. I think

666
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: you said it well though about the pass rusher in

667
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: the draft. Let's say you take one at twenty two.

668
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: That player is cost effective for four years, right and

669
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: for where the Titans are right now, great winning seasons,

670
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: you need that player to be cost effective for four years.

671
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: You know you need that to happen. You need Christian

672
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: Fulton to become a starter, and then he's cost effective

673
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: at the corner position for three more years, even if

674
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: they don't start right away. Those sorts of positions are

675
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: so key because there are certain positions. You know, the

676
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: guard position is one, the center position is often one. Two.

677
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: There's certain inside linebacker is one where you can generally

678
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: find different parts to go in according to what you need.

679
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: Is a rookie okay, is a veteran Okay, we'll figure

680
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: it out with the puzzle. But there's certain positions. It's

681
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: like why aj Brown for two more years. Is such

682
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: an incredibly valuable player doing what he does at the

683
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: cost that he is right now now in a couple

684
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: of years, a j Brown gonna cost a lot of money,

685
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: a lot of money. That's that's the way that goes.

686
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: That's the that's the natural evolution to amy that we

687
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: were talking about. But when you're a good team and

688
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: you're trying to become a great team, then you have

689
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: to put yourself in this sort of position where you

690
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: can add these parts back, or you can choose to

691
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: do it like what it looks like Kansas City is

692
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: gonna do Jim And that was almost Floyd Reese's model too,

693
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: and that is they're gonna pay eleven guys a lot

694
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: of money. They're gonna they're gonna they're best eleven players.

695
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna pay them a lot of money. And then

696
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the other forty two guys they're not getting paid. They're

697
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: just gonna continue to rotate people through in these different

698
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: spots based on the fact that they have Patrick Mahomes,

699
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: and because they have Patrick Mahomes, they think they have

700
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: a chance every single week. So they're gonna keep Mahomes

701
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: and Kelsey and Tyreek Hill and guys like that, and

702
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: then everybody else is gonna be somebody who just rotates through.

703
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: And that's a strategy that works when you have some

704
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: of you know, when you have four or five of

705
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: the best players in the league, you can do that.

706
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Indianapolis did that with Peyton Manning. You know, their secondary

707
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: was It's like, who is this guy? I mean it

708
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: was almost somebody different every year because they were gonna

709
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: keep Peyton Manning and Marvin Harris and Reggie Wayne and

710
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: Edger and James and on defense they were gonna keep

711
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Freeny and Mathis and then everybody else was just sort

712
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: of you know, we're gonna rotate it. That's your point

713
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: order about the draft being so important. That's again why

714
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: you do it. You got you gotta be able to

715
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: hit on your draft picks and be able to count

716
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: on those guys playing. I'll tell you this. I mean,

717
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm sad the season's over, but I'm really looking forward

718
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: to seeing what John Robinson does this offseason because I

719
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have a ton of storylines to follow.

720
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: I don't know that anything's gonna happen fast. I think

721
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: Titans fans may have to be patient, but I think

722
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be enjoyable to see how he puts this

723
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: puzzle together, and he's good at puzzles, let's face it.

724
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely I think that this is going to be one

725
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: of the off seasons where Titans fans will start to

726
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: see other teams making waves and we'll think, well, where

727
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: are the Titans? What are they doing? Everyone just be cool.

728
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: John Robins and is always working. Even when you don't

729
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: see him working, He's still working. But I think you're

730
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: absolutely right, Mike. I think this is going to be

731
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: a very interesting offseason. I think it's going to be

732
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: very entertaining, and I think once we start the twenty

733
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: twenty one season, we're going to look back on it

734
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: and go, huh, we got a pretty good team put

735
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: together here. So I'm excited about that, almost as excited

736
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: as I am to spend an offseason prepping for the

737
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: draft focusing on edge rushers because that's my favorite every

738
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: year anyway, And so now I have an extra excuse

739
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 1: to just really lock into a position that I love.

740
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: When it comes to healthcare coverage, you should be the

741
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: one to make the call, So call far Bureau Health

742
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: plans they've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven,

743
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: Jim White, I just have to call you out here.

744
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: Great job by you during the course of the season

745
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: at Tennessee Titans dot Com with all of the information

746
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: and insight that you have a fantastic you. My friend

747
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: had a pro Bowl year. I appreciate it. I could

748
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: say the same for you guys. I mean, it was

749
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: obviously a different year, and I look back at it

750
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: and realize, you know, how unique of a season it was.

751
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: I still remember all of us having conversations in June

752
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: or July or you know, what's it going to look

753
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: like this year? How are we gonna be able to

754
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: manage And the fact that that you guys were able

755
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: to not only travel and do the job and do

756
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: such a good job when and I've heard you say it, Mike,

757
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: one of only two teams in the NFL to be

758
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: able to go to every single game, the Saints the

759
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: only other team. And I think that's remarkable and uh

760
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: and I feel very privileged to have been able to

761
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: go to all of these games. It was different, and

762
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: it was challenging for us. You know, we've you know,

763
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: obviously had to work through challenges at stadiums across the country,

764
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: having to do things differently that we've done in years past.

765
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: Travel was different than years past. Uh you know how

766
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: you know, access players and coaches different than years past.

767
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: I mean, everything was different, but you just got to

768
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: keep your head down and do the best you can

769
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: do with the opportunities there are there. So now I

770
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: wish we were still getting ready to play a playoff

771
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: game this weekend in Buffalo. I think of how fun

772
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: those those prime time playoff games are. You know, we

773
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: did one in New England last year, and we did

774
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: one in Baltimore, and I can just imagine what it

775
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: would have been like to be in Buffalo one Saturday night.

776
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: So it's it's tough to to not still be getting

777
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: ready for a game. But I do think, you know,

778
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: I am proud that all of us were able to

779
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: to do what we love to do during a season

780
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: that we hope there's a lot there's back to close

781
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: to normal. In two thou twenty one, Amy, we knew

782
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: it was going to be unusual when we went to

783
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: Denver and we were checking in for the first time.

784
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: So we're standing outside this tent. Jim, I don't know

785
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: if you were there at the same time we were.

786
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: But so we're checking in at this tent and these

787
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: two nice ladies are working there and they don't work

788
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 1: for the Bronchos, they don't work for the stadium. They're

789
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: just people doing a job and they're doing the very

790
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: best they can. And they were very sweet. And we

791
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out how to get the information to be

792
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: able to log in and answer all the health questions.

793
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: We finally figured it out. Every morning at five am,

794
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: I still get something for the Bronchos about answering all

795
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: the health questions to this day. So that's how strange

796
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: that ended up. But the strangest part was they had

797
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: the heat seeking monitors or whatever to take your temperature,

798
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: and when I walked up to the first one, my

799
00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: temperature was one hundred six point seven. Mike died in

800
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Denver station. It's what, oh six point seven the temperature

801
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: the fever. So I'm like, I don't think my fever

802
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: is one hundred and six point seven. Well, the greatest

803
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: thing is there was a guy from the NFL office

804
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: next to us who was not very patient, and he

805
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: was not very amused ball this. His temperature was over

806
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: one hundred and seven on the monitor, and I looked

807
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: at Coach Mack and I go, this is gonna be

808
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: a year like no other. And it was. I mean

809
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: everywhere we went there was a different challenge, a different

810
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: hurdle to overcome. By the way, for those listening to

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00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: the OTP, my temperature was not one hundred and six

812
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: point seven, I was. I was health everybody Coach Mac

813
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: registered like one oh five point eight. I mean everybody.

814
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: There was a problem with how they had set because

815
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: they had put these monitors, these these temperature gauges out

816
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: in the parking lot in the heat, and in September

817
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: in Denver it was ninety degrees. So but that was

818
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: just that's not making fun of them, that's just illustrating

819
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: how the year was going to go. Amy It was

820
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: like that all along. Absolutely every place we went to

821
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: there was a new fun surprise and a new challenge.

822
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: I mean we had equipment set up in hallways at

823
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: certain places, there was plexiglass just everywhere. We took plane,

824
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: strains and automobiles to get where we needed to go.

825
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, this was truly one for the record books.

826
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: It was a wild season, but the fact that we

827
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: were able to make it to every single game because

828
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: we really truly took it one week at a time.

829
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: It was this week, can we go to the game?

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00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's start making those plans. We never planned

831
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: more than a game or two in advance because you

832
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: didn't know what was on the other side of the

833
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: next week. You just didn't know what kind of restricts

834
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: they might have in that stadium, what's going on in

835
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: a certain city. You don't know what air travel anything

836
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: is going to look like, because there were a lot

837
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: of adjustments in twenty twenty. So to have gotten to

838
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: the end of the season, to have had the type

839
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: of year that the Titans had, and to know that

840
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: we were there along the way, experiencing it with them,

841
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: telling those stories, doing everything that we could to bring

842
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: that stuff to the people back home. That I'm very

843
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: proud of that and what we were able to do.

844
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: But good, great, I've never laughed so hard and been

845
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: so confused about how we're going to get from one

846
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: place to the next. But man, we made it. Glad

847
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: we tried it. I'm glad it worked out. Most of all,

848
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad everybody stayed healthy. You know, that's the big

849
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: thing is because we were nervous. I mean, there's just

850
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: no I mean again, this was not an act of bravery.

851
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: Don't deserve a medal for any of this, and don't

852
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: we do. Because we were going because we love to

853
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: do what we do and we thought it was the

854
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: best way to do it. And the organization said, if

855
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: you want to try it, try it, which I think

856
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: most of the other broadcasts for sure they would have

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Speaker 1: gone if they could, but due to state, local regulations

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Speaker 1: or their organization they could. Ours gave us the choice,

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Speaker 1: and we tried it, and I think we got lucky. Amy, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we definitely got lucky. But I mean there was also

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Speaker 1: a lot of hard work that went into that. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very appreciative of everybody who helped us pull that off.

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Speaker 1: But let's not do that a lot. Uh No, let's

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Speaker 1: not do that a lot. That was enough, thank you.

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Speaker 1: M m Yeah, it was good. I did draw on

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Speaker 1: my three years of doing the Nashville Cats though, that

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Speaker 1: was that was big three years of Cats football on

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Speaker 1: Cats Radio for in two thousand and seven, Jim head

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Speaker 1: his Tennessee and experience to draw from all right for

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Speaker 1: Avery Wells at Jim Wyatt, I'm Mike Keith, we thank

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Speaker 1: you for everything this season. We're gonna keep it going

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Speaker 1: in the off season, moving towards our third anniversary. This

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Speaker 1: is the old Big Show where the legends go. Everybody

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Speaker 1: knows it's our house, fighting Tennessee, making us to read

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Speaker 1: creanness is meant to be. As now we got tighting

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Speaker 1: butter running through a VSE