1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, what is up? Welcome to another edition of 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show, presented by Caesar's Rewards. Hey, 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: if you haven't had a chance yet, go ahead sign 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: up for free at NFL dot com Slash Fantasy. It 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: is free, It is fun. Is the official fantasy football 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: game of the National Football League. Do it soon. We 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: are literally one week away from the start of the 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: National Football League season this time in seven days we 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: will be prepping for Chiefs and Texans. It should be great. 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: So if you haven't had a chance, get your league 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: set up and going now. They're still at the time 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: to draft because of other big piece of housekeeping news. 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: Starting next week, this show moves to three times a 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: week Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and will be here with you. 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: We can download it as you always do as a podcast, 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: but more importantly, it will be a digital streaming show. 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: You can find it online at NFL dot com. You 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: can find it streaming in the app as well. Not 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: to mention that if you somehow miss it, it'll be 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: archived on YouTube. Just go to our YouTube channel at 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: the Slash NFL Fantasy Football got plint to talk about today? 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: We will dive through some wide receiver talk. We'll get 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: through some late round RBS will also kind of tell 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: you how to handle the end of your draft, because 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: that could be just as important as the start of 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: your draft as well. Before we get into all of that, though, 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: talk to our faith for producer. Seeing you're Edward L. 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Murphy Esquire Murph. I hear you are on your way 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: to Chicago this weekend. Have you lined up a list 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: of places to eat at in the Windy City? Yeah? 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean we're lucky. Our producer here, Hythem, is from there. 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: He's from the city of Chicago, so he's been giving 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: me a lot of good tips except for want. He said, 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: there's a type of like beer or booze from Chicago 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: that tastes like pine salt, So I will appoy that. 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: But I will eat the Italian beef. I will have 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: some deep dish p probably a lot of it. I 38 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: know Portillo's p quads um check out regular Bille. So 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: he's he's giving me quite a bit of stuff to 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: to go do there. I'm excited. Yeah, that's fantastic. I 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: will tell you that old style tastes better at Rerigly 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: than it does just anywhere else. Unfortunately, I know you 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: won't be able to get it at really this time around, 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: but just just a word of advice. It's way better 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: at really than it is just out in the wild, 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: So just something to remember. I'm gonna have it, and 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: I hope it holds up to the hip because I'm 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: gonna come back to hip them and give them my 49 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: review of like literally everything I do there. So we'll 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: see it. But I am excited for a no Cubs game, 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: but it's still a great summer city. So it's it's 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna be fun, no doubt about it. Enjoy and you 53 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: know we'll catch up with you when you get back 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: next week. Uh. In the meantime, let's get into what 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna do today. And to help me out, it 56 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: is the guy who would be my co host once 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: a week. He will see him normally on the Friday show, 58 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: but he's here with us on our final Thursday show 59 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: of the preseason. It is Michael F. Florio, Florida. It's 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: always great to have you back on this show and 61 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: to be excited we are a week away. This is 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: this is the end of the long dry off season, 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: so this is sort of nice. Yeah, this offseason has 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: felt longer than any because we haven't had preseason games 65 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: or anything like that. And Marcus, I'm sure you're in 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: a similar position as me. Like, I'm super pumped for 67 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: next week, but because of the unknown of this season, 68 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: everyone decided like to host their drafts a couple of 69 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: days before the season starts. So like, I still have 70 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: a lot of drafts in the next week coming up. Yeah, 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: I got a handful of them coming up this weekend, 72 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to sort of juggle family time and 73 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: draft time. I'm sure there will be some point when 74 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm like playing with the kid with the phone in 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: one hand and trying to, you know, do both. So 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: I will use that as my excuse if my team's 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: end up being kind of crappy this year, be like, hey, 78 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to be a good dad 79 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: all at the same time. So let's start with some news. 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: The big piece of news happened on Wednesday night. Leonard 81 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: four Nette signs a one year deal with the Tampa 82 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. It wasn't surprising that he got picked up 83 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: fairly quickly after he was released by the Jacksonville Jaguars. 84 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: So now he goes to Tampa where all off season long, 85 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: we've sort of been debating who's going to be the 86 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: guy in that backfield. But the first question is what 87 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: do you expect from Leonard Fournette and Tampa Mike I 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: right now, he is the running back that I would 89 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: most be targeting out of this backfield if you want 90 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: a piece of this Tampa Bay backfield, because I am 91 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: of the mindset that his upside is simply the highest. 92 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Like what he did last year is still very impressive, 93 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, rushing for well over a thousand yards, the 94 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: hundred targets, seventies six catches. I think he was kind 95 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: of brought in for a reason here. But I will 96 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: say I I'm not expecting him, like next week in 97 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: Week one, to have these starters workload just being on 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: the team for one week. So there is also an 99 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: opportunity there, I think for Ronald Jones if he could 100 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: do anything early on. But my expectation is he'll be 101 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: eased in early on in and as the season goes on, 102 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: we'll see him get more and more workload until he 103 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: takes over that backfield. Well, you mentioned Ronald Jones, and 104 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: on Thursday morning in his press conference, Bruce Arians told 105 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: reporters that Rojo is still my guy. We still want 106 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: to use him if we brought in Leonard four Net 107 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: for a reason, because you can't have too many good 108 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: running backs. There's also I've heard some rumblings that Lashawn 109 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: McCoy may get some work as the third down back 110 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: in this offense. We've heard nothing about Key Shawn Vaughan 111 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: or dare Open Bawally in the last few weeks. So 112 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: with all these guys there, knowing that you are not 113 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: a Ronald Jones truth or what are your expectations for 114 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: him this year? I think, like for me, I put 115 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: it on Twitter last night, I think I would feel 116 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: comfortable with for Net in the sixth round where like 117 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: Jones was going and then Ronald Jones I still think 118 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: is worthy of taking like the eighth or ninth round 119 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: when you start to get to those high end quality backups, 120 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: because he may not be a backup. But in my opinion, 121 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: Bruce has said all of the right things when it 122 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 1: comes to Ronald Jones, but all of his actions point 123 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: in the other direction. Like first he inherited Ronald Jones, 124 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: he wasn't part of the regime that drafted him. Then 125 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: he takes over last year, this Bucks team, and what 126 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: does he have Ronald Jones do split time with Peyton 127 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Barber and darry Ogan Bawally to me, who are just guys? 128 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: And then Marcus, you remember this well. I remember it 129 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: so well because you guys broke it down on Fantasy 130 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: Live last year. But he was pulled in the first 131 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: quarter of a game very early on for missing a 132 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: pass block. That was a week after he had eight receptions, 133 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: So it looks it was one step in the right direction, 134 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: two steps back. And then since then, the Bucks are 135 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: clearly going all in on this season, this two year 136 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: window with Tom Brady, I think. And they still drafted 137 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: a running back in round three. They still shine signed 138 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: with Shawn McCoy, they still signed Leonard Fournette. So to me, 139 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: all of those actions paint a picture of a head 140 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: coach who is not comfortable with Ronald Jones being his 141 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: lead back. I really tried to buy in on this 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: idea of Ronald Jones getting himself in shape, kind of 143 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: rebuilding his body, and he added extra muscle. He's done 144 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: that two years in a row now, and so I 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: was really sorting to buy in on this idea that 146 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks were still going to try to lean on him, 147 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: give him a bigger role, even with Keyshawn von there. 148 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: I had bought in on that, but now all of 149 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, everything is in question. My my concern has 150 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: become that Leonard four Nett and Ronald Jones sort of 151 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: cannibalize each other, especially if McCoy ends up in the mix, 152 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: and that essentially you're going to have a whole bunch 153 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: of bacts that are functionally unusable in fantasy because you 154 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: just don't know how they're going to be used, how 155 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: much they're going to be used, and what sort of 156 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: production you're going to get. So that leads me to 157 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: another question, and this is one that ended up in 158 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: your Twitter mentions somewhat asking if you drafted both for 159 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Net and Ronald Jones, which is certainly a reasonable thing 160 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: to have happened in this draft season, what do you 161 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: do now? I think you have to just sit tight 162 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: for right now because there's a lot of question marks 163 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: with this backfield. I would not feel comfortable starting either 164 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: one of those two in Week one, and hopefully you 165 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: don't have to. There's no bye weeks, there's not a 166 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: we know who is like gonna be active and who 167 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: isn't week one It should be the easiest week of 168 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: the year to set your line up. But at the 169 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: same point in time, I wouldn't drop either one either, 170 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: because what if Ronald Jones, like Bruce Arians, isn't lying, 171 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: and what if he does get the first crack and 172 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: he starts to run away with the job, Maybe he 173 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: can hold off a Leonard Fournette or Leonard Fournette starts 174 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: to take over. So right now, I don't think we 175 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: have enough answers on this backfield. I would sit tight 176 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: and keep them both on my bench, ideally not in 177 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: my lineup, but I wouldn't be dropping them either. I 178 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: worried about what to do if I have both of 179 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: those guys. What do you think the trade value would 180 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: be for either one of them? Do they Do you 181 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: have any real leverage if you wanted to trade one 182 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: of those guys. I don't think you have any leverage 183 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: leverage with Ronald Jones because there's there's a lot less 184 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: believers in him, I feel like, and there's a lot 185 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: less like statistical reasons you could point to like last 186 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: year and be like, look what Ronald Jones did. But 187 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: I think with Lenon Fournette, still a former first round pick, 188 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: still a name that's been going early in fantasy drafts 189 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: while he was with the Jaguars. I just feel on 190 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: name base alone, you may be able to sell Leonard Fournette. 191 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: Especially there's people out there, I think who think he's 192 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: gonna just come in and be the guy. So if 193 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: you could find someone like that in your league who 194 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: is still willing to pay a pretty premium price for 195 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, like one of those other fifth round running backs, 196 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: I would make that swap immediately. I don't think you're 197 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna be able to get that for Ronald Jones, though. 198 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: What I think is funny is that between Fournette and 199 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, these were two of them more polarizing backs 200 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: in fantasy and football this offseason, and so now we 201 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: put them on the same roster, and I just feel like, 202 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: however you feel about them, you are going to see 203 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: in this situation what you want to see. If you 204 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: believed in four net and not Jones, you're gonna believe 205 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: that that four net scoring be the guy. If you 206 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: were a Ronald Jones guy and maybe didn't leve for Nett, 207 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: you still think Ronald Jones has a path. If you 208 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: were on the fence about both of them, you've probably 209 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: just washed your hands from the situation and completely walked away. 210 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is maybe the biggest Rorschach test I 211 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: think we have seen in fantasy football in a long 212 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: long time. I was one of those people markets who 213 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I was kind of on the fence about both of them. 214 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm like kind of washing my hands 215 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: and like, all right, this worked out, Like I I 216 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: wish that anytime, you know, there was two players You're like, 217 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, like they just went on the same team, 218 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: cannibalized each other, like you said, and then like we 219 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: got more players that we can draft elsemore. Alright, More 220 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: running back news, Joe Mixon has signed an extension with 221 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals four years, forty eight million dollars. There 222 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: had been some concern that Nixon might hold out and 223 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: wondering what that might do to his a DP. Now 224 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: that he has that stability, what level of confidence do 225 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: you have in him going forward in Cincinnati? I think 226 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon deserves to be in the conversation with the 227 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: back of the first round running backs. Like for me, 228 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: I have him behind the tier of Dalvin Cook, Clyde Edwards, Hilaire, 229 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry, who I believe are like the middle 230 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: of Round one running backs. But I think that Joe 231 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Mixon slides in nicely with me. For with Austin Ekeler Kenyan, Drake, 232 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders. I have him just ahead of like Nick 233 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: Chubb and Josh Jacobs, but I think he belongs in 234 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: that like the top thirteen running backs off the board. 235 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people will point and say, oh, well, 236 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon has never finished that high before. What makes 237 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: us think in you know, year four of his career 238 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna do so, I think a big things when 239 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: they haven't really thrown him the ball his three years 240 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: uh in Cincinnati, but it's something that we know he 241 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: can do. We saw him do it in college. So 242 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that Joe Burrow will throw him the ball more. 243 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a quarterback thing with and Andy Dalton, 244 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: but because we haven't seen that high catch total from 245 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: him yet, I I don't feel comfortable taking him over 246 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: back that I think will be a little bit more 247 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: involved in their passing game. But I still think he's 248 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: right on that RB one radar at the end of 249 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: the round one. I know there's a danger in sort 250 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: of parsing out the season and splitting it in half. 251 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: But that said, I feel like what we saw from 252 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Mixing in the second half of last season was probably 253 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: more indicative one of of his ability level, but also 254 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: I think with how the Bengals want to use him, 255 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: so I really feel like he's a guy that has 256 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: top five upside of everything works well. But I do 257 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: like the the asking price at the end of the 258 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: first round. I would be willing to take that shot, 259 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: especially in a twelve team league. If I'm sitting there 260 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: somewhere near the turn, I would not mind taking that 261 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: swing at Joe Mixing because I do think the ceiling 262 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: is potentially high if things work out the way I 263 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: think they can in this new offense there in Cincinnati. 264 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: I ord to Washington, Ron Rivera says Dwayne Haskins is 265 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: going to be the guy at quarterback. He's going to 266 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: be the starter. I feel like that was sort of 267 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: a given. I mean, I know Alex Smith has been 268 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: a great story, but it just seems far fetched to 269 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: think that after of this long layoff, after such a 270 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: horrific injury, that he'd stepped back in and immediately be 271 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback there in Washington. But now that Haskins 272 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: has this vote of confidence, how does this affect the 273 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: way you see this Washington offense as a whole. I 274 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: do agree with you. I think this move was a given. 275 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: It just made sense for a rebuilding Washington team. I 276 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: think Haskins like I, I agree he should be one 277 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: of the last starting quarterbacks off the board because he 278 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: didn't really show us anything last year. But I think 279 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: his upside is a lot higher than that. He did 280 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: play well at his time at Ohio State, and last 281 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: year I don't think was just on him. Like interim 282 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: coach Brian Alloway, took over and implemented one of the 283 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: run heaviest offensive systems in the game. They were top 284 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: ten in run percentage last year. He was only asked 285 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: to throw the ball thirty times once and he only 286 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: had one game of two and fifty yards, did not 287 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: have any game with more than two pasts and touchdowns. 288 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: But he did show us flashes at times. And what 289 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: I really like about him is he peppered his number 290 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: one target just with a hunt of volume. Terry McLaurin 291 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: last year had forty five targets in the small sample 292 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: size that Dwayne Haskins was the starter. No other receiver 293 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: had more than thirty two. That was Stephen Simms at 294 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: thirty two. So there's a wide gap right there. I 295 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: I like Dwayne Haskins starting more for Terry McLaurin. And 296 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: I think Haskins, if you're in the Best Ball or 297 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: Super Flex league, is a fine QB three because he 298 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: comes with some upside. But if you're in a one 299 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: quarterback league, this guy is not on your radar. I 300 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: would agree with that. And it's it's interesting you mentioned 301 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the run heavy offense at the end of the year. 302 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Last year, there were times it just felt like Washington 303 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: was trying to run out the season. I mean, like 304 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: literally did not just run out the clock and run 305 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: out the game. They were just gonna run out the 306 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: season and just let's just be done with this and 307 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: let's start over. For I do think Haskins is going 308 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: to get a longer leash this year. I think this 309 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: is a team that is as you mentioned, they're rebuilding there, 310 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: they're starting kind of from scratch. They're starting young again, 311 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: and I know they've said Adrian Peterson is going to 312 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: get the early down work. That's fine. I think he 313 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: runs for you know, a couple of yards here and there, 314 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: and then they're gonna have to throw the football because 315 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: they're going to be trailing a lot. So Haskins will 316 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: make his mistakes. But Terry McLaurin is a guy I 317 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: know that pretty much everyone loves Antonio Gibson has been 318 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: moving up because he has some value as a pass 319 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: catcher there. So I think that you're right for Haskins. 320 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: No one are very few people I should say you're 321 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: going to draft him and have him on their fantasy rosters. 322 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: But I think having that confidence in him, having that continuity, 323 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: I think we'll do good things long term for this 324 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: Washington offense. And so maybe there's a reason there's a 325 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: sort of be hopeful I think. I mean, I don't 326 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: know how you feel, but do you have a maybe 327 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: a better outlook for him in dynasty? What what's your 328 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: your your thought process for him if you're talking about 329 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: holding him long term in a fantasy situation. I actually 330 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: think in a dynasty situation like now might be the 331 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: time to go out and try to acquire him, because 332 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't think his value can really get any lower 333 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: like what he did last year. Who is feeling exciting 334 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: about Like he routinely was putting up single digit Fantasy 335 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: points as a arting quarterback in the NFL, Like that 336 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: is bad. But to me, a lot of it is 337 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: like what you said. I think they were just running 338 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: out the clock on the season. They were looking ahead, 339 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: like they knew that Callahan wasn't going to be their 340 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: long term head coach. I don't think. But Ron Rivera 341 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: brings a an offensive friendly system in here and what 342 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: we saw with with his system out of Carolina. But 343 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: I think Haskins right now the value is never going 344 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: to be lowers. So just because of the upside that 345 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: I think he has that he showed us in college, 346 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: I think right now would be a buying opportunity. Yeah, 347 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: I do think there the sky is bright, the future 348 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: is bright for Dwayne Haskins over to Los Angeles. And 349 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: this one is sort of near and dear to my 350 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: heart because I make no bones about being kind of 351 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: a Tyrod Taylor stand in a lot of respects. Anthony 352 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: Lynn has said that Tyrod will be the starter in 353 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: Week one. Not really a surprise there. Again, you've got 354 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback that hasn't had a lot of work 355 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: because the off season has been so weird. So Tyrod 356 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: be in the week one started not a surprise. There 357 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: have been some reports from the beat reporters they are 358 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: around the Chargers that Tyrod could hold onto this job 359 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: for most, if not all, of the season. How are 360 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: you viewing Tyrode? I mean, I'm not saying he's gonna 361 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: be a QB one. I'm not that crazy about this 362 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: whole thing. But how do you feel about Tyrode long term? 363 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: Maybe as a second quarterback, maybe in a super flex 364 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: league now that we feel like Justin Herbert might not 365 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: jump in immediately to take this job. I think Tyrod 366 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Taylor's role on a fantasy roster, whether it be in 367 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: a one quarterback league or super flex, should be as 368 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: your backup, because I wouldn't want him as a starter 369 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: knowing that he could lose that job. But I do 370 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: think Tyrod Taylor is going to be one of these 371 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: players that is greatly going to outlive his a DP 372 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: for however long he is the starter. I know they 373 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: said for as long as they could stay in the race, 374 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: So a lot of it depends on him. Like, how 375 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: well is he going to play? How well are the 376 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: charger is gonna play and remain in the race, because 377 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: once they fall out of it, we know they're gonna 378 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: make the switch to Herbert. I think though, because of 379 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: the valuable points that he picks up with his legs. 380 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Remember when he was a starter for three years with Buffalo, 381 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: he was always one of those quarterbacks who was like 382 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: a routine like low n QB one, high n QB two. 383 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: Even though we watched him and be like, this guy 384 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: is not one of the top twelve fifteen quarterbacks in football, 385 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: but in fantasy he is because he can run so much. 386 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: But so I think he his value alone will outlive 387 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: his a DP. But my concerns with Tyrod Taylor as 388 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback is for the rest of the offense 389 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: because we've kind of seen what a Tyrod Taylor and 390 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn offense looks like, because Anthony Lynn was Taylor's 391 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: o C in twenty sixteen in Buffalo and they threw 392 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: ran the ball fifty one I'm sorry, they passed the 393 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: ball fifty one percent of their plays, the second fewest 394 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: amount in the NFL that year, and in Tyrods three 395 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: years as a starter, he averaged a pass and play 396 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: fifty one percent of their plays. So to me, this 397 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: looks like a team that I think it's gonna be 398 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: built similar to that Buffalo team, where they're gonna try 399 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: to rely on their defense, try to rely on the 400 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: run game, and let top At out as Tyrod to 401 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 1: do too much. I think he'll he'll be a serviceable quarterback, 402 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: but they're not gonna ask him to suddenly start throwing 403 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: the ball like he's Patrick Mahomes or something. Well, and 404 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: I know we've talked about the Chargers pass catchers before 405 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: on this show, with Tyrod kind of getting the nod. 406 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Have you moved any of those guys Keenan Allen. I 407 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: know Mike Williams is hurt, but Hunter Henry, have you 408 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: moved any of those guys down your board? Moved them up? 409 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: Are they staying kind of about where you thought they 410 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: would be? So I've moved them there much lower this 411 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: year than they've ever been with Philip Rivers, But I 412 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: haven't moved them with the news that Tyrod Taylor's the 413 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, because I thought that was kind of the 414 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: expectation all along, like Tyrod's gonna start and however long 415 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: they're in contention, he will be their starter until they 416 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: fall out of it, and then we'll bring in the 417 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: young kid and Justin Herbert. But for me, this is 418 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: I think this is a bad move for the Chargers 419 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: pass catchers Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Hunter Henry because, like 420 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: I said, in in the years that Tyrod was the starter, 421 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: they threw the ball fifty one percent of the time. 422 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: Last year the Chargers through the ball sixty three percent 423 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: of the time they were in the top ten. So 424 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: to me, that's a lot of past attempts per game 425 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be losing right there. From the shifting quarterback, uh, 426 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: the one weapon on the Charges. I was feeling outside 427 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: of als Neckler because I love Alston Neckler, but I 428 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: was feeling good about Mike Williams because I thought his 429 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: style of play fit Taylor will Because Taylor isn't it 430 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: get the ball out of your hands quick quarterback like Rivers. 431 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: He'll you know, build some time with it by some 432 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: time with his legs, and he's not afraid to throw 433 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: the ball downfield, which is what Mike Williams excels at. 434 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: So when Williams is back healthy. I think that that 435 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: you can get a little bit excited for him, but 436 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: the rest that their ADP, I'm kind of avoiding so 437 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: full the scoloture. We had our NFL Fantasy Live Draft 438 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night, and in my final few picks as 439 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: some depth ads, I did draft Tyrod Taylor, Mike Williams, 440 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry because I do think that there's some opportunity, 441 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: especially because I was I will say, I was kind 442 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: of peaking at some of my bye weeks for my starters, 443 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: and the Chargers have some pretty favorable matchups that line 444 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: up with some of those bye weeks, so I feel like, hey, 445 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: why not take this wing, especially at where the ADP is. 446 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: If it hits, it's great. If not, then I'm not 447 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: out a whole lot. So I will say thinking part 448 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: of this segment was to make me feel better. I 449 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: think you've got Hunter Henry outside the top ten tight ends, 450 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: which is completely fine for me. Then like, but normally 451 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: I think you have to pay a top ten tight 452 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: end press room. So if he falls out the top ten, 453 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: I think he's a pure upside shot. We're taking them. Yeah, 454 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: And that was sort of my logic is feeling where 455 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: he landed. I felt pretty okay with it, so I 456 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: was willing to take the chance. Otherwise, if I had 457 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: to get him what his normal a DP was, I 458 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: probably would have been out Henry. So there you go. 459 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: It's time for Performance Ready presented by Castro Edge. So 460 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about guys who should be ready for the season. 461 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: Look look at some guys who have been rising up 462 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: the a DP boards as we get closer to the 463 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: end of fantasy draft season and who could make a 464 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: bigger impact than maybe we anticipated coming into this offseason. 465 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: So let's start in Washington. We talked about Dwayne Haskins 466 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: being that starting job there and what this means for 467 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: their offense. Antonio Gibson has been a favorite I think 468 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: of the fantasy industry as we've gone throughout this summer. 469 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: It started even before I think the various guys release. 470 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: It picked up steam with that and it still is rising. 471 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: So now I have seen him as high as round 472 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: seven in a lot of fantasy drafts, which I liked 473 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: it when I was drafting him in round eleven or twelve, 474 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: a whole lot better in order for him to pay 475 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: off his Round seven a DP. Floria what kind of 476 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: numbers do you think he has to put up. I'm 477 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: with you, Marcus, I liked him a lot more when 478 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: he was going in round eleven or twelve. In round seven, 479 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I like, I went back last year and I looked 480 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: at the top forty running backs and none of them 481 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: had less than seven hundred scrimmage yards. So I think 482 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: that right there, he needs at least seven hundred total 483 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: yards this year. Uh and the two who had less. 484 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: Of the top forty, there was only two had less. 485 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: They both had thirty five plus catches. One was Terrico 486 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: and who had over a hund your targets. So but 487 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: I think if you're drafting Gibson in the seventh round, 488 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: you don't want him to just be top forty running 489 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: back right like you're expecting more. So, I looked in 490 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: at the top thirty running backs and they're the only 491 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: one with less than thirty less than eight hundred scrimmage 492 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: yards was Treohen who again a hundred targets, so he 493 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: can make up for a lack of scrimmage yards. So 494 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: I think for Antonio Gibsons who hit uh and as 495 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: a seventh round a DP, you need at least eight 496 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: hundred scrimmage yards, and I think you also would like 497 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: to see him around thirty five forty, maybe even a 498 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: couple more catches than that. I know people like Gibson's 499 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: talent that's undeniable, and I know that they're excited because 500 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera has hyped him up, saying we have a 501 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: plan for him, we want to get him on the field. 502 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: I've even heard they want to use him sort of 503 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey, although I do think someone on Twitter 504 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: went through and that seems to be Ron Rivera's favorite 505 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: comp for a running back who catches passes that every 506 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: every running back who catches the football, he says we 507 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: want to use like Christian McCaffrey. So maybe we should. 508 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I can't blame him at all, but 509 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: maybe we should look a little bit deeper into that 510 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: and not just run with it. I feel like when 511 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: you're talking about round seven, you are talking about a 512 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: guy that you would feel comfortable putting in your flex 513 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: spot on a fairly regular basis. And I don't know 514 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: that I'm there yet with Gibson, mostly because this is 515 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: still going to be a bad Washington team. They're not 516 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: going to go out there and I think score a 517 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: ton of points week after week. They are still developing guys. 518 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: There are still roles to be determined in this offense. 519 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: And so while I like what Gibson's potential is, I 520 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: don't think he has enough of a set role yet 521 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: to make me feel confident that I can roll with 522 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: him each and every week. So if I'm if I'm 523 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: taking him in the seventh round, I'm looking around at 524 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: a lot of talented players that I'm potentially missing out on, 525 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: a lot of running backs who should get solid workloads, 526 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 1: a lot of wide receivers or even tight ends who 527 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: should get decent target numbers. So the rise has maybe 528 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: a little bit hesitant, and that's why I think in 529 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, I think I backed off 530 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: drafting Gibson quiet as much. So from there to Buffalo, 531 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: you were a Bills fan. I love asking you Buffalo 532 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: Bills related questions. Zack Moss has been a big hype 533 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: bunny over the last couple of weeks. What do you 534 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: see his role as and what do you see as 535 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: the outcome this season for Zack Moss in Buffalo. I'm 536 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: a big Zack Moss guy, especially when Devin Singletary was 537 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: going like in round five and you were getting Zack 538 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: Moss in like rounds nine sometimes, but they're they're a 539 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: DP is definitely coming closer and closer together because a 540 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: lot of people are attracted to Zack Moss for fantasy 541 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: and I think the most realistic outcome for him is 542 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: that he finishes as a high end RB three, but 543 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: I think the upside is a lot higher. Uh. The 544 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: role that I'm expected him to play in is a 545 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: little bit of a larger role than what Frank Gore 546 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: had last year. I think he can compete with Devin 547 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: Singletary for the groundwork. I think he is going to 548 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: be the back that they used near the goal line. 549 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: Like last year, the Bills just did not trust Devin 550 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: Singletary near the goal line. In fact, he was third 551 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: in touches inside the tannin inside the five, behind both 552 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: Frank Gore, who was well ahead of all of them, 553 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: and then Josh Allen too. So to me, that shows 554 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: that they don't really want to use Devon Singletary there. Uh, 555 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: and they really like Bills GM. Brendan Bean has really 556 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: spoken up Zack Moss his ability to catch passes and 557 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: as a receiver, his ability to you know, just be 558 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: an early down back, plus be that big goal line back. 559 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: So I think it is very possible that he could 560 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: come in and get a lot more work than we're expecting, 561 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: which is why I like taking him as an RB 562 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: three because I kind of think that's his floor if 563 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: he's the one seeing those big, valuable UH touches near 564 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: the goal line. But I think the upside is higher 565 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: if he can legitimately eat into Devon Singletary's UH carries 566 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: because I do think Zack Moss is going to see 567 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: a good amount of receptions UH compared to Singletary as well. Yeah, 568 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's the part that really has gotten 569 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: people excited. And at last few days those reports that 570 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: Moss is going to be working theoretically in the passing 571 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: game a little bit more. I have to ask what's 572 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: the future for Devon Singletary there in Buffalo. It just 573 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: seems like after last year they talked him up a 574 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: whole lot, but the opportunity hasn't matched quite in the hype, 575 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: and I just feel like, maybe maybe this isn't gonna 576 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: work out long term with these two sides. My guess 577 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: is the bills. They did not feel comfortable with just 578 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. I think they feel like he needs another 579 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: piece there, and which is why part of me thinks 580 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: that Zack Moss being the bigger back. They both were 581 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: third round picks. Zack Moss I think comes with a 582 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: little bit more production in college and a little bit 583 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: more hype than Devin Singletary coming out, So I wouldn't 584 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: be surprised if in time Zack Moss becomes the lead 585 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: back here in Singletary is kind of the complementary piece. 586 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: I do think though, he will still have a role 587 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: even if Mass starts to take over, Like I don't 588 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: think Singletary ever goes away, which does cap the upside 589 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: both of these players. But again to me, that it's 590 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: just another reason to take Zact Moss because the ADP 591 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: is less, so the risk is just less. Yeah, Devin 592 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: single Arry, to me, has become one of those cautionary 593 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: tales of overvaluing talent and maybe overlooking opportunity. The talent 594 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: seems to be there, the opportunity doesn't seem to be 595 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: there right now for him and Buffalo over to Green 596 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: Bay A. J. Dillon kind of shook up the Fantasy 597 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: Twitter world, and we saw pictures of him in his 598 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: workout gear with these ginormous thighs that looked like he 599 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: stole them from an elephant at a local zoo. So 600 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: what does him be in Green Bay mean for Aaron Jones, 601 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: who we already thought was a huge candidate for regression 602 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, Aaron Jones last year scored thirty six 603 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: percent of his Fantasy points off of touchdowns. That simply 604 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: was not going to happen again. He had nearly twenty touchdowns. 605 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we just weren't going to see that. So 606 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: I was already expecting as everyone was, like some heavy 607 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: touchdown regression there. But then they bring in Dylan, who 608 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: is huge, like you said, And my biggest fear is 609 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: that with Aaron Jones this year, he is gonna have 610 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: to split time in the red zone with Dylan and 611 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: then in between the twenties with Jamal Williams, And I 612 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: am just fearful that this can become an absolute nightmare 613 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: for Fantasy. Like you bring in Dylan, I wouldn't surprise 614 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: me if they use him near the goal line to 615 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: kind of prevent Jones from having to take those hits. 616 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: And they keep Jones fresh throughout the season and they 617 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: get you know, they get to use Dylan as well, 618 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: who they just paid a premium draft capital for. And 619 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: then also let's not forget the like Jamal Williams was 620 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: still heavily involved, especially in the passing game. Last year, 621 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: he was running over fourteen routes per games, seeing three 622 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: point two targets per game, and that may not sound 623 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: like a lot, but Jones was only seeing four point three. 624 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: So Jones was averaging one target more per game than 625 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams. And for forever, with these two backs, all 626 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: we've heard about is Jamal Williams pass blocking and how 627 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: much Green Bay loved it. I know it's a uh 628 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: we've seen a different regime since these two have been 629 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: brought in, But even last year, like Jamal Williams was 630 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: used in that role. So I don't really have a 631 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: lot of uh Aaron Jones. I haven't been drafting him 632 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: a lot because you still got to pay that second 633 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: round price. And for me, this can become an all 634 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: out fantasy nightmare if they use all three of those 635 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: running backs. I don't think I have drafted Aaron Jones 636 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: on any fantasy roster. I was sort of relieved to 637 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: see the ADP come down a little bit, because I 638 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: feel like in March and April people were still drafting 639 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: him in the first round. And I think that has 640 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: sort of calmed down. But because of all the things 641 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: you said, I mean, Jamal Williams still being heavily involved, 642 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: now a J. Dillon reportedly getting involved, it has gotten 643 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: me completely out on Aaron Jones this year. In fact, really, 644 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: besides Davante Adams, I don't know that there are any 645 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: packers that I'm really excited about this year, so I've 646 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: generally kind of stayed away in a lot of respects. 647 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of Davante Adams, his a DP has been pretty 648 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: steady all off season long. And the thing that I noticed, 649 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: it feels like the wide receivers for the most part, 650 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: have remained relatively flat when it comes to their A 651 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: d p s. The running backs have been all over 652 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: the place. I mean, it feels like any piece of 653 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: news since a running back a DP, you know, either 654 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: moving up or moving down in quite a big way. 655 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? I think I am 656 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 1: partially to blame for this, uh, myself and a lot 657 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: of other fantasy football analysts and then banging the drum like, hey, 658 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: the elite running backs, they go and they dry up fast, 659 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: so like get them early on, and like, over the 660 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: last couple of months, it's become more and more common 661 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: to see like ten or eleven in the first twelve 662 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: picks in the in the twelve team league be running backs. 663 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: So I think when you see like thirteen of the 664 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: first fifteen picks in most strafts be running backs, and 665 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: then you have Michael Thomas and Davante Adams sprinkled in there, 666 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: people see that and they're like, oh man, my RV 667 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: two is gonna be bad. I need to I need 668 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: to not miss out on these running backs because they're 669 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: going so heavy off the board. And then there's also 670 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: a lot of wide receivers that myself that I like, 671 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of I know, other fantasy analysts like 672 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: in round four or five, six and that range. So 673 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people feel like, all right, 674 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: I can wait on receiver and still I won't get 675 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, a top Tan Wade receiver, but I'll still 676 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: get someone completely serviceable from my starting lineup. But running 677 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: back if I wait, I might be you know, drafting 678 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: like Kareem Hunt is my RB two, and I really 679 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: like Kareem Hunt, but I like him more as an 680 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: RB three where you don't need to be starting him 681 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: well Nick Chubb is there because we don't know exactly 682 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: how that workload is going to get distributed, Like I 683 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't want like a Devin Singletary or really any of 684 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: those round five running backs as my RB two. So 685 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: I really am trying to get too early, and I 686 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: think a lot of people feel that same way. And 687 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: I think it's just because the running back position drives 688 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: up a lot faster than receivers, so people are are 689 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 1: really trying to get their running backs early now. Earlier 690 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: this week, I had Danny Carter on this show, and 691 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: he is obviously a huge advocate of the zero RB theory, 692 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: and I know there are people that are still trying it. 693 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: It just feels like this is a year that it's 694 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: really hard to do because so many running backs are 695 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: coming off the board early. And I think you're right. 696 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: The fear is suddenly you're looking around and you're running 697 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: backs are Devin Singletary and Kareem Hunt, which is great 698 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: if you have them as sort of depth backs. As 699 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: flex options not so great. If you feel like those 700 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: are the guys you have to use on a regular 701 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: basis weekend and week out. That was Performance Ready by 702 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: presented by castrol Edge. It's time for Secure Starts presented 703 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: by Visa for Peace of Mind. Online Visas got you covered. 704 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: So for piece of mine, we're looking at what I'm 705 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: calling these solid seconds. These are wide receivers that aren't 706 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: in that top tier, that are maybe going in some 707 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: of the middle rounds, that you might feel confident with 708 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: as your wide receiver to this year. So well, first off, 709 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: when you get past those first three rounds of Florio 710 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: and you know the elite guys are gone, and you're 711 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: starting to look at maybe that second wide receiver, what 712 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: sort of things are you looking for before you make 713 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: a pick. I want volume, and I want upside, and 714 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: this year that is my favorite tier. Like these second 715 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: wide receivers. I often will start a draft with two 716 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: or three running backs, So I am looking for, you know, 717 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: guys who I think are gonna be safe each week, 718 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: that I can have in my starting lineup, that I 719 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: know aren't just gonna be complete boom or bust options. 720 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: But I also am looking for players that I think 721 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: can take that next step and potentially go off the 722 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: board next year as a wide receiver one. And some 723 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: names that I really like, like Robert Woods you can 724 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: get in the fourth round, and his teammate Cooper Cup too, 725 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: but also like A J. Brown, Terry McLaurin. A little 726 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: bit later, there's Marquis Brown, and then there's also like 727 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett DK Metcalf. There's so many wide receivers in 728 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: that range that I I don't like going zero why 729 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: RB and taking two wide receivers early, primarily because then 730 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm take running backs at this portion of the draft, 731 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: and I love all of these wide receiver twos. I 732 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: don't mind double dipping and getting two of them into 733 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: my lineup that I feel really good about because again, 734 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna have that same volume each week, and they 735 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: have the upside to take the next step. In fantasy. 736 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: You mentioned that, and I went through and sort of 737 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: looked at the running back a DPS and actually get 738 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: past maybe Chris Carson somewhere late in the third round. 739 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: There's just a big group of running backs that I 740 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: just don't feel great about going from anywhere from round 741 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: round four, maybe the end of round seven or middle 742 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: of round eight. It's not until I get to sort 743 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: of that back part of the running backs that I 744 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: start to feel better again about the upside guys. In 745 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: the meantime, all those wide receivers you mentioned are guys 746 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: that you know it is. It is like a shopping 747 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: spree sort of in the middle of that, You're looking 748 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: through and everything seems great and every option seems to 749 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: really have some value to it. You mentioned Cooper Cup, 750 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: and this is a guy you talk about volume. We 751 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: know the volume has been there for him. We know 752 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: the upside has been there because Jared Goff loves him 753 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: and looks for him when he tends to get in trouble. 754 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 1: There for some reason, he's fallen outside of the top 755 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: twelve wide receivers. I'm thankful for the draft discount, but 756 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: why do you think that is? I think a big 757 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: part of it is like last year, the first eight 758 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: weeks of the season, he was looking like a top 759 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: five wide receiver and then he kind of came back 760 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: down to earth after that. But to me, the biggest thing, 761 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 1: and I actually I have Bobby Trees ahead of Cooper 762 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: Cup in my PPR rankings this year, and the biggest 763 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: thing is because last year when the Rams made their 764 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: their offensive switch from using the three wide receiver sets 765 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: using more of a two tight end set that we 766 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: really saw Tyler Higbee take off in Cooper Cup really struggled, 767 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: especially for volume, like his routes. He was running less 768 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: routes per game than Tyler Higbee. He was only seeing 769 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: six targets per game where Woods and Higbee were over eleven. 770 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: His receptions were below those guys. His receiving nerds was 771 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: list than sixty per game. In that in those final 772 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: five weeks. Really kept him Fantasy relevant was that he 773 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: scored five touchdowns in those five games. And that is 774 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: what I think you can rely on Cooper Cup four 775 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: and that is why he's still a wide receiver to 776 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: for me in my top twenty, because when the Rams 777 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: get near in the red zone and near to the 778 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: end zone, you know that's who Jared Goff is going 779 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: to throw the ball to. Cooper Cup and him just 780 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: have that connection there. But I think the fact that 781 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: we saw his numbers take such a big hit when 782 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: the Rams switched to twelve personnel, and we don't know 783 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: if they're going to carry that over this year or not. 784 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: I think that gives us a little cause for paulse 785 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 1: and just to to go no Marcus. A great friend 786 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: of yours, Matt Harmon does great work with reception perception, 787 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: and he pointed out that Cooper Cup is one of 788 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: the very best against zone coverage, but really struggles against 789 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: man to man. So that is another thing I think 790 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: you have to worry about with Cooper Cup if defenses 791 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: are going to attack him differently this season. I'm with 792 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: you on Robert Woods having a big season. I love him. 793 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: I was sort of frustrated and on Wednesday night when 794 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: Adam Rank reached into the beginning of the third round 795 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: and grabbed him before I could get to him. But 796 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: I've had drafts where I've seen Cooper Cup on the 797 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: board in the mid the late fourth round, and I 798 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: will gladly take him there if he's gonna fall that far, 799 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: because everything you said is correct, but I still love 800 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: the upside and if I can get him in the 801 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: late fourth round, I'm gonna take that all day long. 802 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: In Jacksonville, DJ Chark seems to be the only really 803 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: consistently drafted Jaguar offensive skill player there. What's his ceiling 804 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: you think in I think he has wide receiver one 805 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: upside Like, I don't have him ranked as a wide 806 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: receiver one, but to me, he comes in this group, 807 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: this tier where all of these high ceiling wide receiver 808 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: two's that we know are gonna get save volume. I 809 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: think he is one of these candidates that can take 810 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: that next step. And I think it's kind of just 811 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: a perfect recipe. It's why I like Gardner Minshew as 812 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: much as I do. I think the Jaguars, they've lost 813 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: a ton of pieces on defense. They're not going to 814 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: be the team that they were a couple of years ago. 815 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: I expect them to be trailing late in games often, 816 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: which usually leads to a lot of a lot more 817 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: passing volume late in the game and a lot of 818 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: garbage time points. And I know we could say, oh, 819 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: it's garbage time, but they matter for fantasy football. And 820 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: we saw last year that Gardner Mitschew clearly has a 821 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: rapport with DJ Chark and Jake Gruden has been brought 822 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: in now, and Jake Gruden historically has been a past 823 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: happy coordinator, and Jay Gruden has also gotten the best 824 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: fantasy seasons out of Kirk Cousins and Andy Dalton, So 825 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: I think he could do that with Gardner Minshew, and 826 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: I think DJ Chark is going to be clearly the 827 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: number one target there. So I think he's a top 828 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: towny water receiver who has the upside to take that 829 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: next step. Hashtag garbage points still count. It is a 830 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: thing that I tweet repeatedly during the NFL season. We 831 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: talked earlier in the show about the Chargers and you 832 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: talked about how you feel about their past catchers. Keenan 833 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: Allen loses Philip Rivers, t Y Hilton gains Philip Rivers. 834 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: It's not often you see a at are in quarterback 835 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: making this sort of move and still having some sort 836 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: of fantasy relevance. You talk about how you're not excited 837 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: about what Tyrod Taylor means for the Chargers pass catchers. 838 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: Does that mean you feel better about what Philip Rivers 839 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: means for the guys in Indianapolis? And are you feeling 840 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: better about t Y Hilton than you are about Keenan Allen. 841 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: I have those two back to back in my rankings, 842 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: and to me, they all they're all behind those that 843 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: whole group of that tier of wide receivers. We were 844 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: just talking about these high upside guys. Who could take 845 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: that next step for me, they're both behind him, and 846 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: the true answer for me is usually passed, like I'll 847 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: take Marquis Brown over both of those guys. And I 848 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: wish you could switch the quarterbacks on these two teams 849 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: because Keenan Allen, I think, is a He's a great 850 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: route runner, one of the best in the league. He 851 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: relies on timing and precision with his quarterback, and maybe 852 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: him and Tyrod Taylor will have that. But Tyrod has 853 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: shown us that he's a quarterback that will hold onto 854 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit longer, throw the ball a 855 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: little bit more downfield. And we have three seasons of 856 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor as a starter. His best wide receiver in 857 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: any of those seasons was Sammy Watkins, who finished with 858 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: sixty catches UH just under a thousand and fifty yards 859 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: and nine touchdowns. And Keenan Allen routinely goes for well 860 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: over eleven hundred and over a hundred receptions. So I 861 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: think that naturally, in this slower paced offense, that and 862 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: less pass happy offense, that his numbers are gonna take 863 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: a hit. And then when it comes with t Y Hilton, 864 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: we love t Y because he's such a field shier, 865 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: he's so dynamic. But last year Philip Rivers really struggled 866 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 1: on the deep ball. Uh And in the four years 867 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: that we have of next gen stats, it was by 868 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: far his worst completion percentage, fewest amount of touchdowns thrown, 869 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 1: most interceptions thrown on passes of twenty or more air yards. 870 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: So maybe that was just because their old on was 871 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: really bad, and maybe he could rejuvenate himself with a 872 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: much better alone in Indianapolis. But he's struggling. An older 873 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: quarterback on a new offense, with this type of preseason, 874 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: who struggled on the deep ball last year through more 875 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: interceptions than ever, really wasn't a good season for him. 876 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to tie like my Wade receiver two 877 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: to that guy. I have told myself a story where 878 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: I can sort of believe in Keenan Allen. I mean 879 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: this this goes back to me being uh an unabashed 880 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: tirod stand. I have not been able to pin down 881 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: what I feel about t Y Hilton this year, and 882 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: maybe some of it is because of last year. There 883 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: was so much uncertainty. Jacoby Brissette was he was a 884 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: seat filler. He was kind of a bridge quarterback to 885 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: get them to the next spot for and beyond. But 886 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: because of that, I just have not been very confident 887 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: really in any cults pass catchers, if anything. You know, 888 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: I've I've gotten big on Jonathan Taylor. I've taken some 889 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: some shots at Michael Pittman later in drafts, but I 890 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: just have not been able to get a handle on 891 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: what this Colt's offense is going to be with Philip Rivers. 892 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: So I always say that if we asked these questions, 893 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: sometimes the best answer is neither. And it seems like 894 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: that's sort of where you've landed right now, that that 895 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: really it is neither of these guys. Yeah, I don't 896 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have either one of them 897 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: on any of my team so far. And I'm with you, Marcus. 898 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is who I want here and I was 899 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: a little sad he sniped me in the Fantasy Live Draft. 900 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I got you a couple of times. 901 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: I got you on Taylor, and I think I got 902 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: you on Taylor Higby as well. Both of those I 903 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: was sitting there, Like with Taylor, I was I almost 904 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: took him in round three and then when he made 905 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,240 Speaker 1: it all the way back, and I was even before 906 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: you were up. I was like, Marcus is the one 907 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: that I'm most worried about taking him. And then when 908 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 1: I was like, please don't do it, but I knew 909 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: you didn't have a tight end, I was like, Marcus 910 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: is gonna pull? Because it hit me just fell, I 911 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: thought it was a good value. I was like, Marcus 912 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: is gonna take him here? That one hurt a little bit, 913 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: you know what. And normally I tended to stay away 914 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 1: from Higbie. But because he fell, and because I needed 915 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: a tight end, you know, I had Mike GASICKI I 916 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: had Blake Jarwin in the queue, but Tyler Higby was 917 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: sitting right there. I couldn't not do it. And when 918 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: I saw you get upset in the chat, I knew 919 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: I had done a good thing that made me feel better. 920 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: That was secure starts presented by Visa. It's tide for 921 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 1: high upside presented by Caesar's Rewards. So we talked about 922 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: high upside. Let's look at some late round running backs. 923 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: These guys you're putting on your roster to maybe give 924 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: you some depth and maybe things break right. They get 925 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: themselves into a bigger role. So Michael Florio, Michael left Florio, 926 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: What is it that you look for when you are 927 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,479 Speaker 1: drafting these sort of secondary maybe depth at running backs? 928 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: What what kind of attributes are you looking into. I 929 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: kind of sound like a broken record, I think at 930 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: this point. But for me, it's all upside, like after 931 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: the middle rounds, Like that's what I want. I just 932 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: want someone who has a pretty clear path to a 933 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: starting role, Like I could see how this running back 934 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: may get throst it into the starting lineup. Like for 935 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: one running back I like later, it's like Bryce Love 936 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: and I like him a lot because Antonio Gibson is 937 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 1: still learning how to play running back at the NFL level. 938 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is awesome career wise, but he's getting up 939 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: there in age, and this is a rebuilding team that 940 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: I think would want to see what they have in 941 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: their young running back and may make that switch. So 942 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: I want backs who I can see taking over the 943 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: starting job and if they do, what is their upside? 944 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: Like I really like the like the elite backups and 945 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: like Chase Edmunds, Tony Pollard and that group of running 946 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: backs because if anything happens to the starters, those guys 947 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: can flirt with being RB. One's getting the lion's share 948 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: of the workload there. But then you have teams like 949 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: the Falcons, Like if anything happened to Todd Gurley, I 950 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: have no idea who the next man up is. Maybe 951 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 1: it's Titi Smith, maybe it's Brian Hill, maybe it's Ollison. 952 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, so I avoid that, like Daryl uh 953 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: Henderson on the Rams is someone that I have a 954 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: good amount of shares of because I am a cam 955 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: Acres supporter, but you his a DPS and the double digits, 956 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: and he is a chance of being the lead back 957 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: to open up the season for the Rams. Like, yes, 958 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: to me, that is an upside shot we're taking, and 959 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: if those backs don't hit, then I'll just keep taking 960 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: upside shots on the waiver wire and hoping something hits, 961 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: rather than stashing someone like Adrian Peterson who can give 962 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: me a safe nine or ten points each week. Yeah, 963 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: I think that's sort of the thing. And I know 964 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: the analogy has been made that you don't win necessarily 965 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: by hitting singles and doubles. You win by swinging for 966 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: the fences and trying to get those home run shots. 967 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's what you're sort of getting at 968 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: when you're talking about these young running backs that have upside. 969 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: I know I've said repeatedly that I like Jordan Howard 970 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: and I do think he's a safe option in the 971 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: middle of drafts. But but if I'm looking late in drafts, 972 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: I do want those younger guys. I mean, the guy 973 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: that I was really big on, especially early in draft season, 974 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: was a Darnton Evans who has an ability to be 975 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: a pass catcher. I have seen comparisons to maybe being 976 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: like Alvin Camara Lights in terms of his usage there 977 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. And if anything were to happen to Derrick Henry, 978 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: Evans suddenly walks into a big opportunity there with the Titans. 979 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: So I'm definitely with you on that. So, speaking of that, 980 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: there is a running back to battle going on in 981 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: l A with the Chargers. Austin Ekeler obviously has the 982 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: starting job on lock, but there has been an interesting 983 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,439 Speaker 1: camp battle between Justin Jackson and Joshua Kelly. How would 984 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: you prefer to see this thing end up in l A. 985 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,959 Speaker 1: I would prefer to see Joshua Kelly win the job. 986 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: I think Justin Jackson is best suited as that third 987 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: running back in case anything ever happens to Austin Ekeler, 988 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: he could come in and be your past catching back. 989 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: Josh Kelly is huge. I don't know if you want 990 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: him out there as your your past catching specialists. He's 991 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: five eleven to twelve, so that's a big boy, I 992 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: think you can. My expectation for this backfield is I 993 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: think it's gonna operate a lot like the Saints, and 994 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: I think Austin Ekeler is going to play that Camaro 995 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 1: role where he will dominate the passing work. I don't 996 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: think people realize how much Melvin Gordon played a factor 997 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 1: in the past and the game last year, averaging nearly 998 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: five targets per game in fifteen routes per game. So 999 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: I think Austin Ekeler is gonna just dominate passing down 1000 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 1: duties this year, and then I think they will split 1001 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: the groundwork like I do. Think all Sickler is going 1002 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: to see more groundwork than he did last year. But 1003 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: I also I think Joshua Kelly could give you a 1004 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty carries this year as his team likes 1005 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: to while I'm expecting them to like to run the 1006 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: ball a lot. My only fear with Josh Kelly is 1007 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: that he's huge. Like I said, I'm fearful because I 1008 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: like Eckler so much that Josh Kelly can come in 1009 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: and steal some of those valuable goal line touches the way. 1010 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: But then I see Alston jumping over five pens and 1011 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think he can jump over an offensive 1012 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: line just fine. Yeah, I will say I know that. 1013 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: I feel like the Joshua Kelly hype has been slow 1014 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: to build, and and it's understandable one because u c 1015 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: l A was not getting a lot of national television exposure. 1016 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: They have not been a very good program over the 1017 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: last few years. And I'm not saying that just because 1018 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: I am a USC alone. I mean it's it has 1019 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: been a fact. So because of that, Kelly's exposure has 1020 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: not been as great, I think to the rest of 1021 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: the country as a lot of people would expect. But 1022 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: this is a really good running back who's gonna have 1023 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: a really good opportunity. I will say that, if there's 1024 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: anything that gives me confidence about the situation, it's that 1025 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,959 Speaker 1: I feel like Anthony Lynn has a pretty hard line 1026 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: of demarcation, right, I mean, he has pretty defined roles 1027 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: within his backfield. So whoever it is that gets that 1028 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 1: RB two job, I don't think we'll have to worry 1029 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: about sort of a muddled situation behind Eckler. There's going 1030 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: to be I think, a clear number two. So whoever 1031 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: it is that gets that job, I think you can 1032 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: draft that player with a fair level of confidence that 1033 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: that he is going to get a decent workload there 1034 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: in l A. A situation that may not be so 1035 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: clear is in New England, where I won't say Belatricks 1036 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: are back because I don't think that's accurate. But we've 1037 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: got a battle brewing between Sony Michelle and Damien Harris. 1038 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: Now I know Harris is dealing with a hand injury, 1039 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: so he may miss the season opener, but I don't 1040 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: think this battle is going to just completely go away. 1041 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: What do you see as being the outcome of of 1042 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: Michelle versus Harris? There with the Patriots, this is a 1043 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: murky situation because there's these two in then there's still 1044 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller, Rex Burkhead and James White. So my approach 1045 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: when attacking this backfield, though, has been to take the 1046 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: the unknown him Damian Harris, right like, I do think 1047 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: that he has higher upside than Sony Michelle. Uh. He 1048 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: has been the running back that I've been targeting here, 1049 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: but his ADP is starting to climb. See him going 1050 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 1: like twelve eleventh round in some drafts while Sony Michelle 1051 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: is falling. The reason I'm so low on Sony Michelle 1052 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: is he is not who he was in Georgia at least, 1053 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: we haven't seen that same back in the NFL. We 1054 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 1: know he has some knee issues. That's why that was 1055 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: the concern with him coming out of college, and it's 1056 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: translated into the NFL level. He hasn't had the same burst. 1057 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 1: They've never really used him as a pass catcher, so 1058 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: that limits his ceiling right there. And what he was 1059 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: so useful for in years past was those short yards touchdowns. 1060 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: Last year it's twelve carries inside the five yard line, 1061 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: scored five touchdowns there. Well, now they have Cam Newton, 1062 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: who for years with the raven with the Panthers was 1063 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: just vulturing touchdowns when they would get near the goal line. 1064 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: So I have legit concerns that if Cam Newton even 1065 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: takes away to three of those touchdowns, what is Someny 1066 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: Michelle season going to look like? Because last year he 1067 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: had one touchdown from from further out than five yards, 1068 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 1: and he's three in his careers, so to me, the 1069 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: upside on him is severely kept. But I will say 1070 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: I was in the draft the other night and he 1071 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: fell to the fifteenth round of a twelfth team draft, 1072 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,879 Speaker 1: and I drafted him because at some point everyone does 1073 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: have a price. Yeah, I think that's the point. I mean, 1074 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: at the right spot, everybody is is gonna be worthwhile. 1075 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: And conversely, I mean I've seen Damian Harris kind of 1076 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: bump up into the ninth round in some situations, and 1077 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a situation similar to what we 1078 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: talked about with Antonio Gibson, where if I'm drafting Damien 1079 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: Harris in the ninth round, I want to feel more 1080 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: confident about what his role and what his usage is 1081 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: going to be there, and as you mentioned, it is 1082 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: completely murky. I think we'll all sort of, you know, 1083 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: steak our claim somewhere and in the end we'll have 1084 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: Rex and the flex when Birkhead is scoring touchdowns out 1085 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: of nowhere. As you made you, Cam Newton is there 1086 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: who's gonna take some opportunities. So I like Damian Harris, 1087 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,479 Speaker 1: I would prefer to get him in the double digit rounds, 1088 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: not in the ninth, because there's just no real clarity 1089 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: on how this backfield is going to work in New England. 1090 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 1: Now in Jacksonville, we talked about Leonard four Nette, his 1091 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: departure there and what he could potentially be in Tampa Bay. 1092 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: But there is still the matter of the Jaguars backfield. 1093 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,839 Speaker 1: There are a handful of names there that are sort 1094 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: of battling for opportunities. What do you think happens with 1095 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: the Jaguars running backs this year? And and are there 1096 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: any that you are interested in drafting? This is where 1097 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: like if someone asked me on Twitter, I put like 1098 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: the shrug emoji, because we don't really know anything about 1099 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: this backfield or these three backs, right Like, we can 1100 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: make our best guesses, but we have nothing to work 1101 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: off of. What a backfield with Ryuil Armstead, divine as 1102 00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 1: Deepo and James Robinson looks like. But all three of 1103 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: them similar size wise, Like they're all between five nine 1104 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: and five eleven and all between two hundred nineteen and 1105 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: two hundred twenty two pounds at least as they're listed size. 1106 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: So I then looked at who is the most athletic 1107 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: of the bunch, and by far rich Well arms said 1108 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: ran the fastest forty at four point four five, where 1109 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: the other two were both over four six. So uh 1110 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: and Armstead was at least used last year was the 1111 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: backup for Leonard four Nette, so he is still the 1112 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: one that I would take my claiming. But he is going, 1113 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: and I've seen going like round eleven in drafts this 1114 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,720 Speaker 1: week since they cut four net but um but divine 1115 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: oz geepo, I've seen him go. I got him the 1116 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,879 Speaker 1: other day in round sixteen, So I think right there, 1117 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 1: if he's going after round fifteen like sixteen and that range, 1118 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: it's okay to take your shot there. But the correct 1119 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: answer might be Chris Thompson, who I think is going 1120 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: to be the past catching specialists there. Last year and 1121 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: just in the in the five games that Jake Gruden 1122 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: was with Washington, Thompson was averaging seven targets per game. 1123 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: And Thompson has long in a favorite for Grooden right like, 1124 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: he's thirty five or more catches and each of the 1125 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: last five seasons, and fifty four or more targets in 1126 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: the last four and he does not regularly play like 1127 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 1: sixteen games so that's like fifty four targets in like 1128 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 1: eleven games. So you could see there why I think 1129 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: he is going to be a factor in the passing game. 1130 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 1: Like this a murky situation, like if he's on the 1131 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: third down two minute drills and then you have these 1132 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: other guys splitting the early down reps, it could just 1133 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: become a situation to completely avoid. Yeah, I mean, I 1134 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: think you know. Thompson's upside is that the jag will 1135 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: probably be playing from behind a lot, so there are 1136 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,720 Speaker 1: going to be opportunities for him to catch the football. 1137 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: Their health has always been an issue for him throughout 1138 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: his career, so that's something to keep an eye on. 1139 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 1: I know, the the hipsters out there and the the 1140 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: DEBI League folks out there have been hitting me up 1141 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,720 Speaker 1: about James Robinson and and maybe one day his time comes. 1142 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: I struggle to feel like I can really trust and 1143 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent rookie running back the course of a pandemic, 1144 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: with a weird off season, in the context of a 1145 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: bad offense. There are just too many negatives there for 1146 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: me to get excited about James Robinson. Maybe if you 1147 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: are you know, if you've got a Dolorean uh and 1148 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: and one point twenty one giggle wats of energy and 1149 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: you can go into the future and tell me something 1150 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 1: about it. Then I'll feel a lot better. But right 1151 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 1: now I just I just sort of have to back 1152 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: off James Robinson and again we'll come back to sometimes 1153 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: the answer is nobody at all, and that might be 1154 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,720 Speaker 1: the case with the Jaguars backfield. That was high Upside 1155 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: presented by Caesar's Rewards. Draft a team with NFL Fantasy 1156 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: this season and you can win a trip to take 1157 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 1: your league to Caesar's Palace, Las Vegas for the Fantasy playoffs. 1158 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 1: Download the NFL Fantasy app, draft the team and select 1159 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: the trip to Caesar's Palace from among the three grand 1160 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: prizes you can win. So you've gone through your whole draft, 1161 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: you make your final pick. It's usually a kicker or 1162 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: a defense And I know the tendency a lot of 1163 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,359 Speaker 1: times is to shut down the computer, put down the phone, 1164 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 1: and then go get yourself a sandwich. But that end 1165 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: the draft can be very important, so we'll give you 1166 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 1: some tips on how to handle that. Maybe to finish 1167 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: strong like you start strong in a lot of your draft. 1168 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: So uh, Florio, when you get to those final skill 1169 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: position picks might say end the draft picks. I'm talking 1170 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: about those last skill position picks because generally the thing 1171 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: is your your last two picks are kicker in defense. 1172 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: So when you're looking at that last skill position player, UM, 1173 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: I know this this may sound repetitive, but what are 1174 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 1: you looking for? No surprise, I'm looking for upside, right 1175 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 1: because at that late in the draft, you're probably gonna 1176 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,280 Speaker 1: end up cutting that player unless they hit and become 1177 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: someone that is valuable to your fantasy starting fantasy lineup. 1178 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take players who has really high ceilings, 1179 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: like I'll take a shot on someone like John Ross 1180 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: Laton drafts. In our NFL Fantasy Live draft last night, Marcus, 1181 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: I looked at my team and my starting tight end 1182 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: was Mike Kasecki. I thought I was a little bit 1183 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: weak there. I wanted a nice backup option, so I 1184 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: use my last skill position pick on Chris earned In, 1185 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: who I think has a lot of upside at the 1186 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: tight end position. So that's really how I addressed it. 1187 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: I'll look at my roster. I think if I'm weak 1188 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: at running back or receiver, like, I'll target a position 1189 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: that I think I need a little bit more depth 1190 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: at and I will take the player that I think 1191 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: has the best shot, the most realistic chance of hitting 1192 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: on their upside at that price. So I was going 1193 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: through a DP lists and looking at guys that are 1194 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: sort of at the bottom that maybe you're going undrafted 1195 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: in a lot of leagues, and there were two names 1196 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 1: that caught my eye that I'm surprised haven't moved up, 1197 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: simply because I feel like a lot of fantasy analysts 1198 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: are talking about them, but I don't think the drafting 1199 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: world has caught on Brian Edwards and Paris Campbell. Both 1200 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: are guys that are certainly getting a lot of hype 1201 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: in fantasy circles. Why do you think they haven't caught on, 1202 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: as you know, late picks and a lot of different drafts. 1203 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, Because I like both of these guys 1204 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: like these are there with my last skill pick, I 1205 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 1: will take a flyer on either one. I do like 1206 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: Brian Edwards a little bit more, and I think you 1207 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: can under for me, at least it's easier to understand 1208 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: why the hype for Campbell hasn't caught on. Like last week, 1209 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 1: he was involved in a car accident, was placed in 1210 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: the concussion protocol miss some practice. So I understand why 1211 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: people were like, all right, I don't like I have 1212 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: to get this guy on my roster Layton drafts, But 1213 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: there's also other pieces there to get excited for, like, uh, 1214 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: like there's Jack Doyle who I like, and there's Michael 1215 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: Pittman and and other pieces there. With Brian Edwards, I mean, 1216 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: we just sawt to Row Williams go on the i 1217 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: R and Edwards has been hyped up as a starting 1218 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: receiver basically since they drafted him. And I know he 1219 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,479 Speaker 1: isn't like a sexy, like big play down the field 1220 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: type of weapon, but he can be a move the 1221 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: chain's possession type receiver for this team. And his quarterback 1222 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: is Derek Carr, who isn't going to be heaving the 1223 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 1: ball downfield. He is going to be thrown close to 1224 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: the chains looking to kind of dink and dunk his 1225 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: way down the field. So I think Edwards and PPR 1226 00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: can greatly outlive his ADP. So, just like in the 1227 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, once the NFL Draft is over, we know 1228 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 1: there are a ton of undrafted free agency teams immediately 1229 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: get on the phone, start calling guys signing guys trying 1230 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: to bring him into camp. Similarly, in fantasy, once your 1231 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: draft is over, the waiver wire is open, you can 1232 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 1: go and you can pick guys up. You can make 1233 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: moves right away. For you. How active are you on 1234 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 1: the waiver wire after your fantasy draft? Maybe this is 1235 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: just because I'm in a whole lot of leadus, but 1236 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm not super active after the draft and before Week one, 1237 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 1: unless you know I drafted a couple of weeks ago 1238 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: or months ago, because things change in the NFL very quickly, 1239 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: like you could have drafted last week and now, all 1240 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,439 Speaker 1: of a sudden, all of these Jaguars running backs around 1241 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 1: your waiver wire. So I think there is an opportunity 1242 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: where you should definitely check your waiver wire and try 1243 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: to grab one of those players. But I have a 1244 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: lot of drafts this weekend, like I said earlier, and 1245 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 1: if I draft on Sunday night, I don't think I'm 1246 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna be like going through the waiver wire trying to 1247 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: see unless you know, an injury happens, there's news happened 1248 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: that changes the value of a player. The only exception 1249 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: is if you're any league where you don't have to 1250 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: draft a kicker, in the defense and you took a 1251 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 1: flyer on some upside guys, Well, then you need to 1252 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 1: be active on the waiver wire trying to get your 1253 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: defense and your kicker. Yeah, you talk about news that 1254 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: breaks in the middle of drafts. I don't know how 1255 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: many people I have had tweet at me who said 1256 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: they had just drafted Ronald Jones when he Leonard four. 1257 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Net news broke and for a left scrambling trying to 1258 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: figure out what to do. Uh. So you mentioned how 1259 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: many drafts do you have this weekend? I have. I 1260 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 1: think I have like three or four in the next 1261 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 1: three or four days. And I have my two my 1262 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: favorite leagues with like you know, my college friends and stuff, 1263 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 1: my high school buddies there Saturday night and Sunday night. 1264 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 1: So to me, that's kind of like the fun end 1265 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: up draft season. Uh, start getting ready for Week one. 1266 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm a little bit all draft out, and 1267 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 1: by the end of this weekend I will be all 1268 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: drafted out. Yeah, I really feel like that's sort of 1269 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 1: the case. I know I've got a couple more this weekend, 1270 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: but I I will be ready for draft season to 1271 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: be over and for fantasy football season to begin. But 1272 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 1: we know there are a lot of you out there 1273 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 1: that are still drafting fantasy football teams, and to do that, 1274 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: be sure to download the all new NFL Fantasy App. 1275 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: It is free, it is fun. Get your friends together, 1276 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: get your only going, because, like I said at the 1277 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: start of the show, we are one week away from 1278 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: kickoff of the NFL season. Meanwhile, for us, that is it. 1279 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,919 Speaker 1: We are done. We appreciate you hanging with the NFL 1280 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Show presented by Caesar's Rewards. You know the drill, 1281 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: tell to friends, to tell to friends, rate review and 1282 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: remember the road to success is dotted with many tempty 1283 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 1: parking spaces. Be careful out there, take care of yourselves 1284 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: and each other. Wear a mask, and we will see 1285 01:01:44,560 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: you on Monday. M to all the co