1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast Refuse to wear Khaki's Welcome 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan, we do refuse 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: to wear khakis? Maybe another uh, you know, bullet point 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: on the list of why we'll never appear on NFL 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: network ever again? Uh, starting right off of that, although 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: do people wear khakis on NFL network or anywhere? At 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: this point? Khakis are kind of in in a down cycle, 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. In general, I think Jim Harbaugh 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: did some damage to that that overall experience that brand. Well, 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: if he didn't shop for his pants at Walgreens or Walmart, 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: we would we wouldn't be doing that. Um, you guys 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: all look great. Todays is wearing a yellow and blue 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: shirt and Greg, I'm assuming because your color blind thought 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: it was a Halloween theme shirt. The Halloween theme colors are, 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: of course, aren't. I went more fall and it's got 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: a plaid sort of you know, I'm I'm out on 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: the farm with hey and whatnot feel to it. With 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: goblins and googles, the turning of the leaves. Lots of 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: things happen in the fall. Not do you even understand 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: how seasons work. I grew up in New England, baby, 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: you know there's lots of seasons. There, four of them 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: on the vineyard. The seasons are beautiful origeous fully up there. 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: But season of strawberry season spring, spring in summer. Uh. 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: This is the Tuesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast, 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: sponsored as Mark didn't directly allude to, but you could 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: read between the lines. Sponsored by no one, but supported 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: by you the audience, and again want to thank everyone 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: for a second week in a row, the most downloads 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: we've ever had for a show for our week to 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: recap podcast. So you guys are awesome and thank you 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: for spreading the word and be being so active both 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: on social media and on our subreddit which almost has 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: a three thousand people signed up to it now. Um Greg, 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: at some point it's time for you to embrace this upreddit. 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: I think and not and not poop poo it. I 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: would think it's what number does that to hit a million? 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: Is that when you'll show it some respect? I don't 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: need to have I haven't showed it any lack of respect. Okay, 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: all right, maybe just read into it wrong, but a 43 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: lot of get a lot to get to. Today we 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: will have our recap of the Monday night football game 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: between the Philadelphia Eagles and Chicago Bears, a game that 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: left Mark Cessler scratching his head or perhaps um to 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: say it, at least carled up in a ball in 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: his home. Uh. We'll get to that in a bit. 49 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: We're also gonna hit on what's what's in the news, 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: some injuries, to talk about some other things going on 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: across the NFL. Uh. Chris Westling wrote a banger and 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: you could read it on Wednesday, the top ten slot 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: receivers in the National Football League. Uh, and we will 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: break down West's list. And then yes, the Thursday night 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: football preview Throne of Sleeves edition, the New England Patriots 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: with possibly third string quarterback Jacob Briskett hosting the Houston 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Texans so hopefully will be wearing their letterman jackets again. 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: I hope they do. Yeah. Disrespectful, I mean, this is 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: a guy that managed to get drafted in the third 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: round of the NFL selection project. Jake Brisket future NFL 61 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I could see that I wrote an 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: end around post before we came upstairs about someone had 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: the guts to ask J. J. Watt where his letterman 64 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: jacket is, And this of course famously called back to 65 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: two thousand, twelve December when um a group of Texan 66 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: players decided it was a good idea to all get 67 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: matching letterman jackets and wear them on the team plane 68 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: to New England for a Sunday night football game against 69 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: the Pats. What are the cornys moments in NFL history? 70 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: The Texans and subsequently blown out of the water and 71 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: never saw the jackets ever again. J. J. Watt said 72 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: he has no idea where he had where the jacket 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: is uh, and he doesn't believe it's even in his 74 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: possession anymore. I would like to think that it's in 75 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: a fireplace somewhere in you know, basically just charred wood 76 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: and jacket material at this point to corny for J. J. Watt. Well, 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: I think it's not a surprise that J. J. Watt 78 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: was prominently involved in the entire proceedings. But in doing 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: some research about the history of that, the other funny 80 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: thing about it was it was not just a one 81 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: week stunt. They had in their mind built up these 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: Jackets to be become a part of the literal fabric, 83 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: well not the literal fabric fabric, but the metaphorical and 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: actual fabric. So I guess literal fab fabric of the 85 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: Texans franchise where every is the longer you stayed with 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: the Texans, the more patches you would accumulate, whether you 87 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: were a cabinet or for winning division title. They also had, 88 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: now that you mentioned, they had this theme where every 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: year they had a homecoming game. Remember that Texans of 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve come back, and it was considered an 91 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: insult if it was like, oh, they're playing, uh, they're 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: playing the Jaguars and homecoming week this year, that's an 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: insult to the Jaguars. They think a few too many drapings, 94 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: not enough wins Texas where everyone's a sophomore d all right, 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: let's what does that mean? Just like the homecoming and 96 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: the letter jackets, given a break, my wife's not gonna 97 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: be happy with you. Chris. Something got very nervous about 98 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: the response from Texas. That was weird that Chris would 99 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: get nervous. The immediate the immediate apology. I have no 100 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: issues with Texas except their education system. West takes the 101 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: that's a large issue. Less takes the term don't mess 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: with Texas hyper literally obviously. Uh. Let's break down some 103 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Monday night football action. All right, at Soldier Field, the 104 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears looking to get their first win of the season, 105 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: but it wasn't gonna happen because Carson Wentz continues to 106 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: look like exactly the guy the Eagles wanted when they 107 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: traded a buttload of picks to the Browns. Uh. He 108 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: played extremely well, Carson Wentz did, finishing thirty four nine 109 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown, and frankly, with some better help 110 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: from his wide receivers who couldn't hold onto the ball, 111 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: could have had a monster game that would have had 112 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: the whole country talking. But as it is, the Eagles 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: are now too and oh after an easy win, the 114 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: type of score that doesn't exactly even do justice to 115 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: how much better they were on this night, Chris Wesley 116 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: get us going well. I think it is fair to 117 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: point out that he has played the Brown secondary and 118 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: the Bear secondary, both undermanned, both among the worst in 119 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Start with that, but when you when he 120 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: comes out on the first drive in a no huddle 121 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: with the Peyton manning like machinations that the line of scrimmage, 122 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: pointing out adjustments to his wide receivers in his offensive lineman, 123 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: changing calls at the line before the snap. And if 124 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: you are a Browns fan, or if you are a 125 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: Rams fan watching Jared Goff struggle with pre snap and 126 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: post snap reads, I think that has to get your 127 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: attention right off the bat, that this guy is so 128 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: much further along. All right, Mark, you are Browns. It 129 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: got your attention. I think it's safe to say, based 130 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: on your text messages, it was one of those nights 131 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: we get. Probably they happened about once a week or 132 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: so where Mark has like a fever dream type night 133 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: of texts and that sometimes the public zigs will be 134 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: some tweets mixed in, but the texts are really where 135 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: it's at. We should release a book on it. But so, Mark, 136 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: we knew you were fired up watching Carson Wentz, but 137 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: maybe not in a good way. Well, it was the 138 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: It was the Browns fan in me that when these 139 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: games are happening in real time, I just swoop into 140 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: total emotion and uh, mixed with darkness. Because the logical 141 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: part of me, the side of me wants to and 142 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: I do believe that the Browns have a plan of 143 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: their own, and that they're being judged very quickly and 144 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: rightly so by the quarterback they passed on that over 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: two games, including a win over Cleveland, has looked just 146 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: like the kind of player the Browns have not had 147 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: under quarter at quarterback four roughly seventeen years since they 148 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: came back in the league. So yeah, I got my 149 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: juices flowing, got me very upset, and I apologize to 150 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: you guys because I I looked at some of those 151 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: texts in the middle of the night and I thought, 152 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: good heavens, are these people still be my friend? But 153 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 1: I one was likeds well there. I I see people 154 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: defending Cleveland and taking into town Browns fans, and I 155 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: think that it's it's fine to be on either side 156 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: of the offense. This is the kind of player that's 157 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: been missing in Cleveland forever. The annoying thing is it's 158 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: gonna feel if this keeps happening like the Browns fans loose. 159 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: The Browns lose twice every week. If Carson Wentz plays great, 160 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: especially when it's on national TV. That's gonna happen, right, 161 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: but it's gonna feel like another loss. And I get 162 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: that because, yes, the matchup was as easy as possible, 163 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: and the Bears lost what five starters in this game's 164 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: amos Lamar Houston as a torn a c O. Bryce Callahan, 165 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: mcfees not around. Eddie Goldman got hurt. I mean there, 166 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: they were a bad team that got worse and they 167 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: got unlucky. But that has nothing to do with some 168 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: of the intangibles that we saw. One of the things 169 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: that impressed me is he was coaching up his wide 170 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: receivers on what to do in between plays, which that 171 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: seems obvious enough, but the play clocks running there, and 172 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: you don't normally see a rookie quarterback have the presence 173 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: of mind to do that. Not to mention the physical 174 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: traits of throwing against across his body, throwing a fastball 175 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: and throwing the change up with some nice, nice touch passes. 176 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who the opponents are. Those are impressed. 177 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: They talked from the beginning of the draft process, when 178 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: we started to get glued into that that there was 179 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: there was a vast difference between Carson Wentz and Jared 180 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: golf in a couple of areas. One that golf was 181 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: more of a laid back Southern col type dude, and 182 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: that appealed to Jeff Fisher, Good for you. But Carson 183 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Wentz was an a type personality, someone that is was 184 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: obsessed with the game and studies NonStop, takes command of 185 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: the game. And you know, watching him even before an 186 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: hour before we just out in the field, thrown around 187 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: to his to his teammates, he is loving it out there. 188 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: Taken too many hits though, that's taking too many hits. 189 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: But I could not be more impressed with his preparation 190 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: and his passion at this point. It is it is. 191 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: You're right though it's a it's a it's a crazy 192 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: ride for the teams that passed him up. You're watching 193 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: him yell kill kill at the line of Scrimmage's autobling 194 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: two runs to go for first downs. That one got 195 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: brought back on a holding penalty. But you also see 196 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: him John Gruden points out that he's hitting the hot 197 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: read when they blitz. These are things that guys like 198 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: Jake Cutler don't do that all that well. After twelve 199 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: years in the league, and speaking of Jay Cutler on 200 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: the bare side. It really couldn't get any darker than 201 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: it is right now in Chicago. A team that just 202 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: seems completely rudderless. And there was a kind of a 203 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: narrative in the offseason John Fox teams in year two 204 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: get better, but this team is not better. They're owing 205 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: to now. Jay Cutler gave you a quintessential Jay Cutler 206 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: effort before leaving with a with a sprained thumb that 207 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: could be an injury that keeps him on the shelf 208 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: for a while. Brian Hoyer, by the way, wherever Brian 209 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: Hoyer go, his opportunity finds him usually almost immediately, so 210 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: he could be their starter for the foreseeable future. And 211 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: they also had other injuries. Danny Trevivan is now has 212 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: thumb surgery coming up and he's gonna miss time. Lamar 213 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: Houston towards a c L for the secontent. That's a 214 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: killer loss and he's done for the year. So a 215 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: total greg uh nothing ball for the Bears on Monday Night. 216 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: Well that's why I made this my lock of the week. No, 217 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't. Again, it wasn't about the Eagles. It's about 218 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: how bad this Bears team is. That they're one of 219 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: the two or three worst teams in the league in 220 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: my opinion, They've been unlucky with the injuries. They have 221 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: nothing exciting to watch. Kevin White at this point is 222 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: taking too long to come along, so he's not exciting. 223 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: Jeremy Langford, it's a boring running game. There's just there's 224 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: just nothing there. And they went against the defense that 225 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: I think is gonna They're not gonna stuff everyone, but 226 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna stop bad teams like the Browns in the Bears. 227 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: Brandon Graham is playing with his hair on fire this year. 228 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: That contracts one of the most undervalued players in the 229 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: entire NFL right now, Brandon Graham. Was anybody surprised that 230 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: one of Jay Cutler's teammates shoved him? That was McFee 231 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: do Who's who's hurt right now? That was crazy, Although 232 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: if you kind of think about it's like he had 233 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: just made an interception with a broke with sprain limp 234 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: that if you read lips you could, uh McPhee said 235 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: wake up, among other things. So, and that's that's the 236 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: one of the things with Jay Cutler. That and we've 237 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: been talking about color for years on this podcast, and 238 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been a defender of him more 239 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: than critical. But this is the type of game where 240 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: where the team's kind of stuck in the mud, where 241 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: when your quarterback takes on the visual look of a 242 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: team that's just in a lethargic, lethargic place, you just 243 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: want to think to yourself, Man, they've been going to 244 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: this guy for seven years. At what point you're gonna 245 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: hit the reset button? Totally totally agree the Bears. Yes, 246 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: the Bears lack any semblance of identity and they are boring, 247 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: and so thank you NFL schedule makers for putting them 248 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: on Monday night and how allowing the nation to suffer 249 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: through that. Then we get them on Sunday Night football too? 250 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I don't get that. I mean, 251 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: it's what, all right? You throw a legendary franchise like 252 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: the Bears of bone their fan base, give him Monday 253 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: night game or maybe a Thursday night game, but six 254 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: days later you're banging us with another Bears game our own. 255 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: What's crazy? This defense? Right now? The two best players 256 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: on it are well Willie Young and Tracy Porter. That's 257 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: an NFL Oh my god, right, I don't know who 258 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: it is right now, the over thirty crowd, what what's 259 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: the future for this team? What do fans have to 260 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: look forward to when Jake Cutler has no more guarantee 261 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: guaranteed money left on his contract and when's the last 262 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: time he was a relevant quarterback in the NFL? Here 263 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: years and al Sean Jeffrey is a franchise player, He's 264 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: a free agent after this season. If he's their best 265 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: player right well, he may not be the only one 266 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: in Chicago that won't be in Chicago next year. You've 267 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: got to look at the organization from the top on 268 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: down and wonder what the direction is here? And if 269 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: I'm if I'm the Bears, you cannot ask your fan 270 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: base to go down the Jake Cutler experience for another 271 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: season or two. It's just ridiculus. Their fans don't want 272 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: to hear this it. The best thing could happen is 273 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: that Brian Hoyer takes over here, they go three and thirteen, 274 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: and maybe you you get a new quarterback of the 275 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: future and you start planning for next year because I mean, well, 276 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: they're already the youngest team in the league, and they 277 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: have a new coach and a new s G. They're 278 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: basically have already hit the reset button. But Cutlers are 279 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: their young players good? No, No one knows this Eagles team, 280 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: by the way, this NFC East is going to be interesting. Yeah, 281 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a little better. You welcome back. Oh, Mark, 282 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: you had one last thing because one of the things 283 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: that stirred me up. And Greg made a great point 284 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: that every time the Browns play, I'm getting peppered with tweets. 285 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: How's Mark doing? What's going on with Mark? And now 286 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: it's now it's double pronged. Now it's like it's Carson 287 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: Wentz related. And I want to just read you a 288 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: couple of things that I received last night. Doesn't sound fun? Uh? 289 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: What did you think of Carson Wentz? Do you think 290 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz will be a good player? Did the Browns 291 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: make a mistake passing on Carson Wentz? Carson Wentz looks awesome. 292 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: Are you upset Cleveland passed on Carson Wentz? Carson Wentz 293 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: is really throwing the ball well tonight? Do you think 294 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: Cody Kesseler will be as good as Carson Wentz? Have 295 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: the Browns solved their quarterback problem now that they have 296 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Whitehurst? Or should they have picked Eagles rookie quarterback 297 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz looks like the next Big Ben 298 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: was Carson Wentz sent here from outer space to save 299 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Carson Wentz has a strong arm. Carson Wentz 300 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: seems like he'd be awesome in the rain or snow guests. 301 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: The Browns didn't need that. Carson Wentz is sort of sexy. 302 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: The Browns were scared to draft another ginger, but they 303 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: should have drafted Carson WENTZLA made up as a Cleveland fan? 304 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: Are you jealous watching Carson Wentz played for the Eagles? 305 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Would you rather have Carson Wentz at quarterback or Colt McCoy. 306 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is showing real poise. I like his haircut. 307 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz will lead the Eagles to seven Super Bowls. 308 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: Will Cody Kesseler be in the league three years from now? 309 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is American Royalty. Cleveland got a guitar playing journeyman. 310 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: The Eagles got a future Hall of Famer in Carson Wentz. 311 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: Does Carson Wentz have a short enough delivery for you? Now? Mark? 312 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Is Carson Wentz the best quarterback in the NFC East? Already? 313 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: Mark Will Carson Wentz be good. Is Carson Wins a 314 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: better athlete than Spurgeon Win? Why did the Browns pass 315 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: on Carson Wentz? Mark, Mark, are there knives in your household? 316 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: Maybe don't go to your household? WHOA, I thought those 317 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: were tweets, not your internal monologue watching the game. I 318 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: don't know anything anymore. UM, I know that is not 319 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: It's not an easy situation, Mark, it's not an easy situation. 320 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: Hanging there, buddy, Let's do some news. Good you better running, 321 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: you'll come back here, You'll kill you. Stranger things, stranger things, 322 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: great show. Mark, We're gonna stick in the realm with 323 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns now and we'll start by talking about, uh, 324 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: the new quarterback in town, because well, let's start here. 325 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: Josh McCown is out. As we expected. He suffered a 326 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: left shoulder injury. Uh, one week after r G three 327 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: suffer suffered at left shoulder injury. McCown's gonna miss a 328 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: period of weeks. That sounds like he had this to say. 329 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean a very a gutty dude, No doubt he 330 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: had this to say when asked when he stayed in 331 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: the game in Week two UM against the Baltimore Ravens 332 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens despite taking a pounding. I think it's just 333 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: not wanting to not be out there with your guys, 334 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: you know. I gotta um. I got a dad, an 335 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: older brother who I know get up and go to work, 336 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes they don't feel great and they go and 337 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: they going to grind, you know. And I got two 338 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: little boys that they're playing football now, you know, and 339 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: they get hit and they get banged up, and trying 340 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: to teach them what toughness means, you know. And so 341 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: for me, it's it's those things that UM and just 342 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: knowing the window for me right now, cool dude. And 343 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: now Cody Kessler will step in the third round pick 344 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: a project, a guy that a lot of people are 345 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: nervous about, uh not being ready at this stage. He 346 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: steps in the third quarterback. In fact, Mark Sessler, this 347 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: is the fifth consecutive week of regular season games, dating 348 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: back to December of last season, that the Browns will 349 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: have a new starting quarterback, which is one of the 350 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: most amazing stats of the year. It's everything we just 351 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: talked about. We don't need to go through all that again. 352 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: But I think everyone in this room felt like when 353 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: the shift from r G three to M account happened, 354 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: it was potentially a blessing in disguise for this offense, 355 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: and Account looked pretty good for parts of that game 356 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: against the Ravens. He need look for the last three 357 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: or four years, right. He was never the problem in 358 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland last year. So I feel for this coaching staff 359 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: because the plan was never to put Cody Kessler into 360 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: the mix anywhere close to this state. And if you 361 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: look at Cody Kessler on the sideline when there was 362 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: a period during the Ravens game when it seemed like 363 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: he might be shoved in there, the look on his 364 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: face was a pure terror. And I just don't think 365 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: this player is necessarily ready. We'll find out. Well, here's 366 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: the good news. You're gonna have another option in case 367 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: Kessler wets himself and needs to come out of the game, 368 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: because the Browns made a big signing on Monday. Yes 369 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: he's back. He rises like a phoenix from the nether 370 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: world of the free agent pile to a new franchise, 371 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, who have now signed Charlie Whitehurst, a 372 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: good friend of the show. He doesn't know us and 373 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: we don't know him. But we we view Charlie clipboard 374 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: Jesus as a friend of the show. He will, now 375 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: I guess, become their number two quarterback and at least 376 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: gives them a veteran presence. I'll be a one that 377 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: has no knowledge of the playbook or anything about, no 378 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: knowledge about the team. Yeah, those are the concerning items. 379 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: A much larger chance of getting into Cleveland's rock and 380 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: roll Hall of Fame than they pro football Hall of 381 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: Fame over under on quarters before we see Charlie Whitehurst, 382 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: and I will go one and a half. I don't 383 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: think Charlie white Rist is playing this Sunday, and I 384 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: don't wait till you get ahold of Yeah, baby white Hurst, 385 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: that would be pretty quickly if Jewel is planning on 386 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: going to watch her boyfriend Charlie white By the way, 387 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: I do like that it seems like it's still happening. 388 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: I like that aspect because Jewel, if you're getting Jewel 389 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: back into Cleveland and back into I like Brown. Like 390 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: the Brown's making Jewel part of their whole game day operations. 391 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: Miami's Got h Serena Williams, Gloria Astefon, Cleveland's Got Jewel Now, 392 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: and What a big couple of months for Jewels. She's 393 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: on the uh, the roast of Rob Low on Comedy Central, 394 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: and then her boyfriend gets back in the NFL. Jewel 395 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: is back. You are tracking this to a concerning level. 396 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: But I mean, come on, let's roll her out for 397 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: the national anthem as soon as Sunday. I want to 398 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: hear some Jewel yodeling as Count Kaepernick drops Tony and 399 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: then says, wait a second, this is too powerful. Stands up. 400 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: You can hear it on this podcast. We don't play 401 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: music anymore. Um well, they fire Adam Gates if they 402 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: lose the Cody Kessler. That might have been the home opener. 403 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: That might have been the only fun game to watch 404 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: of the Browns entire season. Josh McCown poor went out 405 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: for him an absolute throwback to the seventies and eighties. 406 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: West players were allowed to play injured and basically tell 407 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: the medical staff I'm staying in the game. Now. Everybody's 408 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: a mini corporation. I loved watching Josh McCown play football. 409 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: I will say a lot of guys still play hurt 410 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: and got it through. It's it's such a brutal I 411 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: don't think that maybe not to that level. Not many 412 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: guys would have played with what Josh McCown play. More. 413 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Everyone should check out NFL dot com Slash Sessler look 414 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: for the Josh McCown article. Very good stuff on the 415 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: press conference, mccounty, Thank you former boss, Sessa bang U. 416 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: Moving on more quarterback talk. This in Washington where Kirk 417 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Cousins played like a dog poop on Sunday and then 418 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: what happens? What happens? Guys? We start to hear the 419 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: whispers reports that Redskins players are unhappy or or disappointed 420 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins play, and then Kirk comes out in 421 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: a Monday appearance on w jfk F M and Washington 422 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: and said it's understand endable that teammates would have an 423 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: issue with his slow start, basically confirming that this was 424 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: something that was going on. Here's what Cousins had to say. 425 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I think people respond with emotion. Like you said, oh 426 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: and two is oh and two. It's tough. No one 427 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: wants to be there. I think we all feel like 428 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: we're too good to be too oh and two. We 429 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: have too many players, too much talent. In a lot 430 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: of ways, we weren't playing at the level we're capable 431 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: of Greg kirk Cousins. Will he be benched by week eight? No, 432 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they're looking to bench kirk Cousins. Will 433 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: you get out of this funk? Or is this a 434 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: sign of Hey, look, it's been a it's been a 435 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: good couple of weeks um for someone like myself who 436 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: never thought kirk Cousins was the top twenty NFL quarterback anyways. 437 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy that's gonna go up and 438 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: down based on the level of his competition. He's had 439 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: a couple particularly poor games in terms of decision making, 440 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: his third in the league in passing yards. To me, 441 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: it's just weird that he's a low ceiling guy that 442 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: makes a lot of mental errors. So when that that's 443 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: a bad combination, Like he doesn't have talent to make 444 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: up for his mental errors. I think they're gonna stick 445 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: with him throughout this season. Though. You nailed the Cousins 446 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: trajectory so far, and Greg got his lock of the 447 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: week correct, So the guy is flying before, flying high 448 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: before his hot streaked downe the stretch. Last year, he 449 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: had the highest ERA adjusted interception rate in NFL history. 450 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: This is the guy we're seeing again. And I think 451 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: this situation isn't as dire as it is in Chicago, 452 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: but it's another situation where the future of the offense 453 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: is on the line this year to Sean Jackson, Pierre 454 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: Garson also in contract years, and I think that probably 455 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: contributes to their frustration when Kirk Cousins misses them wide open. 456 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: That's a great That's absolutely right that it is a 457 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: great point. And I do think it's dire now that 458 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: you say it, because you raised the expectations in year one, 459 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: you maybe don't know what you're gonna have at quarterback 460 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: after year two. And really, what's the progress that they've 461 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: they've made. They've got a full season to show us. 462 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: But they're not a tough team. They're not a good defense. 463 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this acted from what's been a 464 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: terrible defense, one of the worst defense in the league 465 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: so far. Does GM Scott McCluin somehow spin this or 466 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: come out of this looking good for not committing to 467 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Yeah, gotta find a quarterback that would replace him. 468 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: Let's move on, gentlemen. Where the bad blows keep coming 469 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: for the San Diego Chargers. One week after Keenan Allen 470 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: was lost to a torn a c L. Danny Woodhead 471 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: was diagnosed with a torn a c L. Woodhead one 472 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: of the most versatile players in their offense, and the 473 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: Chargers mark a team that has looked very good overall. 474 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: They of course collapse in the fourth quarter. That's the 475 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: Chiefs in Week one, but then looked excellent in Week two, 476 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: a big win. Uh. What are your thoughts about this 477 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: offense now missing two of their players. Woodhead was used 478 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: so well in New England, but I would almost argue 479 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: that he's been used in an even better way in 480 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: San Diego. He was a big part of that offense. 481 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: And you know they've gone out and they've got Dexter 482 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: mccluster to replace him. Another guy that there, that Ken 483 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: wizzen Hunt there. Oh Seed knows well, but Dexter mccluster 484 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: is not Danny Woodhead on any level. What Danny Woodhead 485 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: I think is one of the most misunderstood players in 486 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. He's in the top five short yardage weapons 487 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: since he got into the NFL. He he almost always 488 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: converts short yardage situations. He's great in the red zone, 489 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: and he's perfect for an offense where Phil Rivers wants 490 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: to sit in the shotgun, take less than two seconds 491 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: to pass the ball and push the ball ten to 492 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: twelve yards down the field right. For all the deserved 493 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: love Melvin Gordon's received. The last couple of weeks, Danny 494 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: Wood has was getting more snaps than Melvin Gordon, so 495 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: it was a one and one a situation. They lost 496 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: Brandon Oliver for the season already, so they have very 497 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: little depth. It's Andre Williams and mccluster behind Gordon. If 498 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: Gordon went down at some point, because they're gonna need 499 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: him to really probably touch the ball three hundred fifty 500 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: four hundred times, it's great news for his fantasy value. 501 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: If he went down, then it seems like theirs son 502 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: Kevin back at that point or something. Uh. And other 503 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: injury news at the running back position Adrian Peterson, who 504 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: sustained a knee injury in the Sunday night win over 505 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: the Packers. It was announced on Monday that Peterson has 506 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: had sustained a torn meniscus UH. And it's a type 507 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: of injury where it's not quite clear how long it's 508 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: going to keep him out, but we probably won't see 509 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: him this week and it could be multiple weeks. We 510 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: don't know yet, but now a Tina lost Teddy Bridgewater 511 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: and appeared to recover from that, might have to go 512 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: forward without a p their most important player in the 513 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: last decade. I think it was good news, though they 514 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: the way he was carried off the field that you 515 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: thought maybe that's a season ender or a torn a 516 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: c l And we had we had a medical expert 517 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: on her air saying, you never know, he might have 518 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: a chance to play this week or next week. And 519 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: they can get by with with Asiata and McKennon. Those 520 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: guys have been that those guys have been in the 521 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: system for a few years. I think is not a 522 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: great player, but he's I think he's better than he 523 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: was in two thousand fourteen. That they'll be fine. They 524 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: also weren't getting any production from Adrian Peterson. For what 525 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: it's worth, short term good news. Long term, maybe not 526 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: so much good news if you remember, meniscus is what 527 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: what What's gonna end up keeping Tori hold out of 528 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. It really shortened his career, and 529 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: meniscus injuries are no joke. When you're losing that that 530 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: fiber between the muscles, it leads to the bone on 531 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: bone thing that ended Curtis Martin's career in many other players, 532 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: how much how much longer of a career do we 533 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: think Adrian Peterson had. It's that's a really good question. 534 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: I think it will be multiple years, but this makes 535 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: me think it might not be in Minnesota after this year. 536 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: His contract is gonna be need to torn up after 537 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: this season. He is do something like seventeen million dollars 538 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: next year and and they're gonna have to come up 539 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: with a new contract to keep him there. To be clear, 540 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that every torn meniscus results in a 541 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: bone on bone condition, but that could be the start 542 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: of something. Maybe it's maybe medical technology is advanced and 543 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: maybe his condition Isn't that bad question for the three 544 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: of you. By the way, the Dolphins are gonna overpay 545 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: for months. That's your lock of the week for the 546 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: three of you. How are you doing on you know, 547 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: determining what's going to be the team of your team 548 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: of the year, your team of at L I know 549 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: who mine is. Have a good time with your your 550 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: Bengals that was never getting by. I already told you 551 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: we've discussed this on Sunday. It's the Vikings and there's 552 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: no more discussion I would I will only say this, 553 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 1: the Bengals had a better chance of getting by than 554 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: the but the Vikings have gotten by into the STL. 555 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking of just now, we might have to 556 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: just end the entire game because Mark went rogue and 557 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: destroyed the unity. You know, I'm against any breakdown and 558 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: unity of the podcast, whether it's the Jesle Nick pod 559 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: or Greg and the Hero Picks. I don't think you 560 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: going rogue. You know this always upsets me. I don't 561 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: think you're exactly heartbroken, uh, judging by the smile in 562 00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: your face right now, j V. I'm open to the Vikings. 563 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: So that there's your answer you asked the question. I'm 564 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: open to them. They wouldn't be my tap team, but 565 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: they'd be in the top four. I appreciate that. I'm 566 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: also and I invite you to join me on that journey, 567 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: but I am not. I don't need it. I don't 568 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: know where you want us to go with this. Where 569 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: do you want us to go with this? I want 570 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: you guys to come up with your little organic solution 571 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: to this, and we'll talk when you do. I mean, 572 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: you bailed on the Vikings when their little quarterback got 573 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: hurt and I didn't bail and Radford has one good 574 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: game when the lights are on and all of a sudden, 575 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: they're your boyfriends. I didn't listen. I have a favorite 576 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: team and they're breaking my heart. So I'm gonna try 577 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: to enjoy something about this season. All right, Well, we 578 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: don't know, we might are you? So you're out. You're 579 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: not involved with the process anymore, not even in the slightest. 580 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,239 Speaker 1: It's about me. I don't know. I might be out too. 581 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: Then I might just withdraw. And this has always been 582 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: about Greg and West. Anyway you can try, you can 583 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: try to spin it into some sort of team breakdown, 584 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: some area, you know, a fisher between the podcast out. 585 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't be concerned less. It's about It's funny because 586 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: when the opposite two people even broached the subject of 587 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: of maybe not having a team of a t L 588 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: literally one week ago, the two of you called us 589 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: traders essentially, and where you were insulted by this, you're 590 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: leading the charge. Well, no, now that Mark has ruined 591 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: the sanctity of the game. I was having fun. He 592 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: can like his Vikings regardless. Hey, hey, new splash. I'm 593 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna like the Bucks. I'm gonna like the Chargers no 594 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: matter who we pick. I like him this year. I 595 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: mean I could like other teams and have a team 596 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: of a t L. He could have his own team 597 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: in there is a team, four different cars droving home. Yeah, exactly, 598 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: the sanctities going. There's nothing you would rather have us 599 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: drop you off at home. That seems a little a 600 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: little much. Yeah, the analogy falls a little bit flat. Uh, 601 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals are still out there if you want to just 602 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: run it back from last year. Um, this has always 603 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: been about the scientists. Anyway. I think you guys, you 604 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: guys gotta work out your stuff, and this might be 605 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: a good exercise. So it's best Mark and have his 606 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: team and then I'll just sit out and just watch 607 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: it and then you guys can work it out amongst yourself. 608 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: This is a troubling, a troubling sign of egos running 609 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: Mick Uh. Another injury news de Marcus where it's a 610 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: great album title, Egos Run amuck. Uh suffered an ulna 611 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: fracture near his elbow. Uh in week two and he 612 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: had to undergo surgery to correct the injuries. Expecting to 613 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: miss four to five weeks. Uh so, DeMarcus Ware will 614 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: miss time for the Broncos. But Chris Westling and you 615 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: wrote about this on the Around the NFL page. Uh, 616 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: perhaps this isn't the worst thing to Marcus where a 617 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: veteran player, he gets back at the end of October 618 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: and away we go. Well, this isn't this a the recipe? 619 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: We saw it last year? He missed his time, he 620 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: comes back like a house on fire, and the playoffs 621 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: save his legs. Now you've got more snaps for Shane 622 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: Ray and Shaq Barrett, who are among the best substitute 623 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: pass rushers in the NFL. I think it's a I 624 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: think the Broncos are just fine. Another argument, and we've 625 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: been on this train. West unlike some people in the 626 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 1: room that John Elway is not just a fascinating GM, 627 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: but maybe one of the best of all time. What 628 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: did his players get hurt that day? That a s 629 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: on strength? Strength on strength? Very it is. It is crazy. 630 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: They're the equivalent of the Patriots offense. I guess that 631 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You can take out the stars Shane, 632 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: You'll take out Von Miller. Well, you couldn't take out him. 633 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: You got one of the best defensive players ever in 634 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: von Miller. But you you suddenly insert a first round 635 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: pick who is playing like a guy who should be 636 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: starting on thirty one other team, Shane Ray. There's a 637 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: lot to be said for depth in the NFL. Is 638 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills found out last Thursday. John Elway, by 639 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: the way, one of the only UH five quarterbacks in 640 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: NFL history to win his first two games in the 641 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 1: first two weeks of the rookie season. Carson Wentz also 642 00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: one of those five John Elway, oh Okay, Trevor Simmey 643 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: in second year. Two of those other quarterbacks, though, Ryan 644 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: Leaf and Mark Sanchez ignominious, and finally in the New 645 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd had a breakout game for the Giants and 646 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: week two and Odell Beckham, his teammate, says, WHOA, this 647 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: kid is awesome. I think he's gonna be the offensive 648 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: rookie of the year. West said, lights out, every game, 649 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: comes up with big catch, makes big plays, rookie of 650 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: the year. I don't think that's so outland just of 651 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: a Predictionkie, who's the who are the favorites early in 652 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: the season, right? Will Fuller has to be there? Ezekiel 653 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: Elliott Wentz. I don't think Elliott Elliott is not a 654 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: favorite right now, and Wentz is the favorite because the 655 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: word course back behind an offensive line like the Cowboys. 656 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying what he's done through two weeks. 657 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: He's averaging three point three yards per carrying was benched 658 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: in weeks. That's great bumble. That's some great rookies right now. 659 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: Corey Coleman looks awesome. That could change quit right now. 660 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: Wentz would be the heavy favorite because I would take 661 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott against the field after two weeks, I would 662 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: go Wentz. I think a quarterback always has a bit. 663 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: I'll take you on that. If you wanted to do sandwiches, sure, alright, 664 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: sandwich wager Will four tier? Um, please Nick make note 665 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: of that. And speaking of Sterling Shepherd, gentlemen, that's what's 666 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: happening in the news. By the way, uh, Chris Wessling 667 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: wrote a banger top ten slot receivers in the league. 668 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: I read every word and I really enjoyed the piece. 669 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: It's literally not even available on the website, so that 670 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: can't be true. But one thing, but I will read, Yeah, 671 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: it will be if Will fourtier could tell his brother 672 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: Nick to take Carrick the sandwich is be in a 673 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: good place, thank you. I like Will fourt. It was 674 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: a combination of Will Will, I don't even know where 675 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: it's Michael Lombardi and Bill Simmons. Will fot you're combining Will. 676 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: Is it Fortier or is it Nick Fortier? I think 677 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: it's it's four tier or four tier everything is. Everything's 678 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: up in the air right now. But anyway, West is 679 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: going to write a banger unless he It's an off 680 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: day for West, and he writes kind of a middling column. 681 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: But I believe Wes is a consistent performer, so I 682 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: think it will be a banger. I have a middling 683 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: column in me, Mark, do you think this will be 684 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: a banger or add? It all depends because you know 685 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: West is getting close to the end of his work day. 686 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: A lot of variables come into play when West hits 687 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: the streets. So here we go the slot receiver top 688 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: ten will go from ten to one. Here we'll start 689 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: with a front half Uh coming in at ten Willie Snead, 690 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: followed by Eagles wide receiver Jordan Matthews, Randall Cobb of 691 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: the Packers, who something tells me a year or two ago, 692 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: he would have been much higher on this list. Sterling 693 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: Shepherd and we just talked about at number seven, t 694 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: Y Hilton, let's do six seven over cob already and 695 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews. Cops tough to rank because two thou fourteen 696 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: he was the best slot in the game. Last year 697 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: he was a complete and utter lie ability for the 698 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: Packers while playing through an injury. And this year I 699 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: haven't liked what I've seen through two games. He's not 700 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: a playmaker right now. So how do you rank him? 701 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: He's not two thousand fourteen cop, and he's not two 702 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen cop. Who is he? Why do you like 703 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: Shepherd that much? I mean that that's putting him there 704 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: right now. They're already quality vetter. I actually I'm with 705 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: you on this, but I want to hear why you 706 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: say so. Watch game pass and see if you can 707 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: find an incomplete pass. I mean, he's money. Eli is 708 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna throw to him and he's going to be there. 709 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: He's he's the best route runner of all the rookies 710 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: as fancy routes. He's fancy routes. He's good after the catch, 711 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: he's got good body control at this at the catch point. 712 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he really has a weakness. And he's 713 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: playing more snaps in the slot than any receiver in 714 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: the NFL right now, which is surprising given that Victor 715 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: Cruz right was previously the best slot receiver in the 716 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: NFL before he told It's interesting Victor Cruz is now 717 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: come back as an outside receiver. They're saying, look, you've 718 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: been replaced by Sterling Shepherd. That's his job. Can you 719 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: make it as an outside receiver? So far Cruise has 720 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: done a nice job, but the more important player this 721 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: season and obviously moving forward is Shepherd. Hands down the 722 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: best receiving corps in the league. Wow, well, Odell Beckham, 723 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: Cruise playing the way is and we're talking about another 724 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year potential, Sterling Shepherd. If he's on 725 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: this list, you've got I'm taking the Cardinals over them. 726 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: John Brown hasn't been John Brown yet, so that's that's 727 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: a factor. I'd take the Jets over them. I mean, 728 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: I'm not you would take the Jets over a team 729 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham. I'm not putting Cruise yet on the 730 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: level of the level of a top thirty NFL receiver. 731 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: I think you look at some of the players that 732 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: they've made two cruise. I want to see it against 733 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: better defenses. I want to see it a little. I 734 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: want to see the explosiveness. Some of the jets are 735 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: up there, no question, but I I'm just saying there 736 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: might be a big drop off after two stars cruise 737 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: back in there. But back to the slot receiver and 738 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: you have t Y Hilton at six, and I think 739 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: he's had seasons in his career where you can make 740 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: the argument he should be higher on this list. Why 741 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: isn't he was? Actually, by the time this article goes live, 742 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: I might remove him. He never he was not a 743 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: slot receiver before this year. He's moved and he's playing 744 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: about in the slot. But if don donte moncreep is out, 745 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: looks gonna be a while. They're gonna move t Y 746 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: Hilton back outside, would be my guest. And he hasn't 747 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: played slot enough in his career to keep him on 748 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: this list, So you know, the unusual top nine list. No, 749 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: I want to put cool Beasley on there to highlight 750 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: how well he's playing. I like cool col Beasley is good. 751 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: I like seeing Willie Sneaed in there. There was some 752 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: back room negotiating. I like, it's like the New Hampshire caucuses. 753 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: I was, I was caucusing for Willie sneed to get 754 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: on the list. So it's nice caucus. It's an American 755 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: political institution. You hate America, millennial, feel free to get it. 756 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: Greg's show on c SPAN will be here in this evening. 757 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: Let's live in a dictator ship. You don't want free voting. Um, 758 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: let's move into the top five of the Westland Banger 759 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: and we will start right there with Eric Decker the Jets. 760 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: And here's the great Decker stat his throwout his first 761 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: year with the Jets, where he had a bad leg 762 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: and a bad quarterback throwing to him. Uh. Since Week 763 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: one of the season, he's played in seventeen games. He 764 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: has fourteen touchdowns. In those seventeen games. He's never had 765 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: more than two touchdowns in a game, so, but he's 766 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: had one in fourteen of the seventeen games. Almost always 767 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: you could pencil him in for sixty to a hundred yards. 768 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: He has become the most consistent wide receiver, UH that 769 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: I can remember the Jets ever having. And that's why 770 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: he deserves that top five spot. To me, was I 771 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: believe if you look even deeper over the last four years, 772 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant Brandon Marshall are the only receivers in the 773 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: NFL with more touchdowns and Eric Decker a multitalented receiver. 774 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: Decker according to family sources. You're referring to the snapchat 775 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: from his that's correct. She was hinting that he was 776 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: gifted in a lot of ways. She wasn't hinting. She 777 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: called them big Decker. We're trying to like circle the point, 778 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: but she did. That's exactly what she said. It's some 779 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: one of those things that gets you kind of mad 780 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: because the dudes like h ten out of ten looks wise. 781 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: And he's a very successful professional athlete playing in New 782 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: York and then on top of it, his nickname with 783 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: his wife. Yeah, not a lot of pitfalls for him. 784 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: What a life anyway. Number five, So Eric Decker a 785 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: consistent force for the New York Jets. And then you 786 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: have Jarvis Landry at four entered this season. Chris Westling 787 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: as I know, you know, with the most catches in 788 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: the history of the league in his first two seasons, 789 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: uh as a pro football player. But tell me why 790 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: he is number four? Then? Well, you could two through 791 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: four Doug Baldwin, half the catches are actually made up. 792 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: That West is right. I'll explain to you why it's 793 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: a focused stat. But Julie is Edelman, Doug Baldwin, Jarvis 794 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: Landry two, three, four, I think are fairly interchangeable. It's 795 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: a bogus stat because he, more than any wide receiver 796 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL has. His touch is manufactured by the 797 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: play caller. Yeah, he makes more errors than the rest 798 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: of this top five. I would say he's he's a 799 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: He's an unbelievable talent. I'm actually a little surprised he 800 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: put Decker below below him, because I know you like 801 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: Rick Decker. Alt Landry is physically tough, he has great hands, 802 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: he's good after the catch, He's elusive. He's better in 803 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: the red zone than people think. But I think he 804 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: shows Matt Harmon and I were talking about this yesterday. 805 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: He shows the folly of building an offense around a 806 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: slot receiver. The Dolphins are one of the most inconsistent 807 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: and unproductive offenses in the NFL. When I look at 808 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman at number three, and this is not to 809 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: take anything away from Edelman, who's a really really good player, 810 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: but when you're talking about slot receivers, so you're not 811 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: a true number one guy that can make things happen 812 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: on your own. How much is the quarterback tied into 813 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: how these guys end up ranking on a list like 814 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: this or just in general their production. Would Julian Edelman 815 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: be anyway where near this list if say Blaine Gabbett 816 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: was his quarterback, Well, look at look what he's done 817 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garopolois. Garppolo might be good now, but how 818 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: much of that is Julian Edelman? Right? I I to me, 819 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: he has shown his value, especially in these few weeks. 820 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 1: He gets so open and he makes people miss after 821 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: the catch. He's one of the better. He was one 822 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: of the better punter. It's turners. All you have to 823 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: do is turn on the Super Bowl game tape and 824 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: watch him trash the greatest secondary in the twenty century. 825 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: People forget that there's no harder sport than the NFL 826 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: to switch positions. This was a college quarterback who has 827 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: been I'll know if I get talking to the first 828 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: guy ever interviewed to NFL network, and he was just 829 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: making the ship from being kind of a special team 830 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: star to getting more involved in the offense and learning 831 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: from Wes Welker and talked about how much of a 832 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: process that was. You gotta give it to him. Tom 833 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: Brady trust this guy mentally too. They are on the 834 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: lockstep game after game, and he's took a half decade 835 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: for Tom Brady to trust him at that level. And 836 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: I think he's a better player at his peak than 837 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: than Welker is. And well, I don't know. Well one 838 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: to Dan's point though, if you look at the quarterbacks 839 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: attached to these and this is totally I told you before, 840 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: I just agree with this slist fled out. But Carson Palmer, 841 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, you got Miami's quarterback in there. 842 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 1: You've got the New York Jets one I don't say 843 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: his name, Andrew eli Mann, Aaron Rodgers, and fill in 844 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: the blank. You know, Eagles have had multiple quarterbacks with 845 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: Jordan Matthew Matthews and then Drew Brees. So there are 846 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: a couple lower tier quarterbacks in there. That's just that. 847 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: I guess that's how football works. You have to have 848 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 1: to have a capable guy thrown to um. Maybe Eric Decker, 849 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: for instance, would be even better with Carson Palmer throwing 850 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 1: to him. But um, you have number two Doug Baldwin, 851 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: as as Mark said, and then at number one, your 852 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: boy age thirty two, still trucking. Larry Fitzgerald greatness. He's 853 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: the definition of greatness when you watch him play at 854 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: this age. Still, I know everybody's waiting to dethrone him 855 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: as the Cardinals best receiver. And I don't think Michael 856 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: Floyd and John Brown are close. Larry Fitzgerald is miles 857 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: ahead of those guys as a wide receiver. That's the 858 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: reason he had a hundred and nine catches last year. 859 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: That's why he was the most important player in the playoffs, 860 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: and that's why he's been their best along with David Johnson, 861 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: their best player through two games this year. And I 862 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: think you look at that, I agree, and you look 863 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: at the top three players on this list, Fitzgerald, Baldwin 864 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: and Edelman, all guys that have made significant transformations. I 865 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: think Edelman took four years to get going. Baldwin is 866 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: it was a good player for a while. He is 867 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: a I sort of him. Still wrapping my mind around 868 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: how good Doug Baldwin has been since the started last year. 869 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: He's a different player, and Fitzgerald to Bruce Arians is 870 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: credit really had his position changed when Arians got there, 871 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: and I think that really gave him a second career 872 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: as a dominant player. Once the best ex receiver in football, 873 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: now the best slot receiver in And I remember in 874 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: All or Nothing, one of the plot lines of that series, 875 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: the Amazon series was learned when we saw Larry Fitzgerald 876 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: talking about how when Bruce Arians told him, Hey, you're 877 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: gonna be our slot guy now, Fitzgerald wasn't happy about 878 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: it because I guess maybe to a all time great 879 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: like Fitzgerald, that might be a shot at your pride 880 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: that you're no longer going to be that guy on 881 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: the outside. But not only did he do as his 882 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: coach said and went along with it, he got invested 883 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: in it. And then and who can disagree with West's 884 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: list here he's become the best guy at it. It 885 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: just shows how truly great he is. Quintessential leader too. 886 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't think people appreciate how rock solid he is 887 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: for that organisms played through a lot of injuries and 888 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: it's the best hands of his generation. One quick question 889 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: for you, outside of a Fitzgerald retirement or something, uh, 890 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: and you know you say you might take t Wey 891 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: Hilton off this list, but a year from now, who 892 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: would you say has the biggest chance to not be 893 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: on the this list? To Plummet, I like to spend 894 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 1: it negative. Maybe Willie Snead, Beasley. I don't Jordan Matthews 895 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: if he doesn't if his hands, Jordan Matthews gets open 896 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: and makes plays. He's sort of like a poor man's 897 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: Marcus Colston. But he drops too many passes for a 898 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: guy who's not athletically explosive. Thinking you dropped a dime 899 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: on Monday night. Looking at this, look at this listen. 900 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: It reminds me. Now now you draft slot receivers high, 901 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: and those are foundational parts of your offense. It's not 902 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: where you stick the third guy, You know what I mean? 903 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: It's interesting Snead is truly their number two receiver to me, uh, 904 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 1: Cobb is is look at his contract. Matthews is essentially 905 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: their number one receiver. Shepherd's the second round pick. Say 906 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: that Doug Baldman was an undrafted free agent, was seventh 907 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: round pick. Willie Sneeb was available for free for the Saints. 908 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. Good job by Cleveland cutting Williason. There's 909 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 1: no real definition of a slot receiver anymore. They come 910 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: in all different shapes and sizes, all different builds, and 911 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: all different areas of the draft. Chris Westling will likely 912 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: write a banger. I think you have you started it, 913 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: transcribe what you have an outline, will like banging out 914 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: almost certainly right, a banger. And honestly, if you're a 915 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 1: listener to the show and you're you're thinking yourself, Oh yeah, 916 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: Wes is a great writer. But maybe he will stumble. 917 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: He said that it's possibly he will read the article 918 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: just to find out if he wrote the banger. That's 919 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 1: the drama attached to this. Yeah, so check in. If 920 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: the topic doesn't interest you, then just see if west 921 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: is on his game tonight. Let him know, let him 922 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: know that alone is just an adventure waiting to happen. Well, 923 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: you guys know how it is. As a writer, I'm 924 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: not really inspired right now, so there's no telling where 925 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: it's going to go. Sometimes magic comes out of nowhere, 926 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: though you never you got. You have to put yourself 927 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: in a situation to make it happen. Put yourself up 928 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: against the wall about it. Maybe you have a nice 929 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,479 Speaker 1: brew or two with it to get the juices flowing creating. 930 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm an needed a Christis situation in my life in 931 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: order to bring the best oats sure something. Dan will 932 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: say that we wrote a banger and and we're sitting 933 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: here thinking that's not really that much of a banker. 934 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm almost always thinking that it could have been quite 935 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: a bit better had I applied myself see minus. But 936 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to tell the listeners right now. Guys, 937 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: less is more but his zip it uh de valued 938 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: the banger uh to me? They're all bangers. Let's now 939 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: finally talk about Thursday night football PM Eastern. You can 940 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: see it on both CPS and NFL network. That's called 941 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 1: the simulcast. Guys in the industry, good show biz term, 942 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: good old show biz term, the old. Rosenthal parents will 943 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: be watching it from from my house Thursday night. Do 944 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 1: you think your parents will be cool with them being 945 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: called old like that? Well, they're they're definitely all. You're 946 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: just a youth hostel for in laws at this point, 947 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: and for your own film you think you had you 948 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,919 Speaker 1: I don't think they would deny that. They're big. They're 949 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: big Patriots fans. My mom listens to every podcast, so 950 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: she'll hear this. Greg stays in character when talking about parents. 951 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: You know, we got Keith hands Us involved with the podcast. 952 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: We gotta get your father in law involved with the 953 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: podcast too. Down the line, we we we could have 954 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: story to storytime with Takeshi. I think at the satellite 955 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: to Japan though. Clicking all right, here we go Thursday 956 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: night put football with Houston Texans um traveling to New 957 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 1: England to face the Patriots. Yes, as we alluded to before, 958 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: there was that embarrassing uh jack at fiasco, but that 959 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: was years ago, and and and in my opinion, I 960 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 1: look at this game, Greg, and I say to myself, Okay, 961 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: Jacob Brisket starting for the Patriots most likely, most likely, 962 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: and the Texans, who we who we believe are a 963 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: good team. And I know the Cardinals failed in this situation. 964 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: I know the Dolphins were getting blown out before Garoppolo 965 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: got hurt, so they failed. So I don't want to 966 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: undervalue the Patriots. And Lord knows the people in the 967 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: desert are also undervalue with the Patriots and their chances 968 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,399 Speaker 1: in this game. But the Texans gotta go up there 969 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: and take care of business and take advantage of a blessing, 970 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: which is no Brady, no Garoppolo, most likely, no Gronk, 971 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: most likely go win a football game in this about 972 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: it because you don't do it here, You're never gonna 973 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, you're right, because Texans fans. No. They 974 00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: have taken some els in big spots. M the Patriots 975 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: some losses, some some tough loss. They had a Monday 976 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: night football game in Houston where it look people were 977 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: calling them the best team in the league and Matt 978 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 1: shob got blasted. They had a playoff game, of course, 979 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: in New England. This is one they should win because 980 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: their defense looks so good. We talked about it on 981 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: our YouTube video. Everyone should check us out. All of 982 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: our previews, by the way, are on YouTube if you 983 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: google week week three previews and the NFL channel. It'll 984 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: be up there on Friday moving forward, people have been 985 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: watching that. You should also check out. We have a 986 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: special google Ish YouTube video this week which I think 987 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 1: you'll enjoy. You've got to see this in the holiday season. 988 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,240 Speaker 1: Check it out. Uh And and this team. I'm impressed 989 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 1: by their cornerbacks, Kevin Johnson, Kree, Jonathan Joseph looking good. 990 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: There was no there was enough space to get a 991 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: word in edge. I love the video. Well, well again, 992 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: maybe the audience will like to make sure you check 993 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: out our preview on YouTube of this game. Go on, Greg, So, No, 994 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: that's it. I said. I like the cornerbacks. I mean 995 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: I like the whole defense. That's the thing. It's good 996 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: at every level, Bernard Rick, McKenny, Whitney, Merciless. It's you 997 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: mentioned the cornerbacks, and they have the best pass rush 998 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They have twenty one quarterback knockdowns led 999 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: by John Simon who's been killing quarterbacks five quarterback knockdowns 1000 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: by him, and they have the best third down defense 1001 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: in the NFL so far this year. To quarterbacks have 1002 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: a twenty two QBR against the Texans through two games. 1003 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: Let me let me say one thing though, I mean, 1004 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: and I know this, Dan is not like comments like this, 1005 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: but after we spent the off season questioning if if 1006 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,879 Speaker 1: the Patriots could prepare Garoppolo for what we just saw, 1007 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: and he looked phenomenal on Sunday, I just don't expect 1008 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 1: uh Jacoby Brissette to be a big negative factor in 1009 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: this game. They were gonna game plan and use him 1010 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: in a way that maximizes what skills he has. At 1011 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: this point, he's rose well on the run. You know, 1012 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 1: he's a quarterback that got comparisons to it was Brett 1013 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: Hunley before before the draft, and a little bit of 1014 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston when he was at his better moments. And 1015 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: I just think that the Patriots prepare players well, especially quarterbacks. 1016 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: We're not going to see some sort of frazzled nubie 1017 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,240 Speaker 1: out there that love this guy. It was his favorite 1018 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft job, but one you would can 1019 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: see that there's a difference between getting five months to 1020 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: prepare for the Cardinals like Garoppoload and three days to 1021 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: prepare for and also right because the Thursday night football 1022 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: preparation for Thursday Nay football is so different than preparation 1023 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: for a Sunday game. They basically don't even really practice. 1024 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: So yes, I will. But at the same time, what 1025 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: did you think of her set in the preseason? I 1026 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: thought he looked good. I thought he played pretty well. 1027 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: We talked, I talked him up a little bit in 1028 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 1: the preseason. The recipe for to win this game though, 1029 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: is running the ball, not making mistakes on offense, and 1030 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: winning against brock Osweller that's where I think they can 1031 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: win this game. He's thrown three interceptions, they've played to 1032 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: what I believe our lackluster defenses in the Bears and 1033 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs right now are not quite the Chiefs. And 1034 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 1: he's got to throw up some balls that you can 1035 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: go after. I think that's where they have to This 1036 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: is this is the recipe for the Texans to win 1037 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: this game again, a game they should win. You need 1038 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: to make sure your quarterback doesn't kill you with turnovers, 1039 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: don't do anything stupid, and then stack that box. Make 1040 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 1: sure Gary Blunt doesn't damage you like he's done to 1041 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,280 Speaker 1: other teams so far this year. And then dare the 1042 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: third round pick, rookie that hasn't done anything in his 1043 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: career to this point to beat you. And if he does, well, 1044 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: you've got bigger problems anywhere. Got one step unleash holy 1045 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: hell from your front seven on Jacoby percent Absolutely come 1046 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: at that guy, make him beat you. Uh, don't be 1047 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: afraid to. Uh. You take some chances, because this kid's 1048 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 1: got a show. He's ready for the stage. And and 1049 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: if he's not, that doesn't that's not an indictment of 1050 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: Jacoby Briskette Brissett what's his name, Jacoby Jacob, Jake Brisket. 1051 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 1: It's not an indictment of him. He's in a really 1052 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: tough spot here. So the Texans that sees on this, 1053 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 1: I like them. Matchup of la Gary Blunt verse one 1054 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: of the best run stuffers in the league right now, 1055 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: an absolute terror Jadavian Clowney but a bad foot by 1056 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: the way, but we'll see what if that holds him 1057 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 1: back up any concern we have, but the brock Osweiler 1058 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: to DeAndre Hopkins connection should be thrown out the window. 1059 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: The best matchup I saw in week two was DeAndre 1060 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: Hopkins against Marcus Peters, and Hopkins is phenomenal. That guy 1061 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: had a touchdown taken away from him by the lame 1062 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: catch role. DeAndre Hopkins is making play after play. He's insane, 1063 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: and that those matchups, you know, let's say Butler's on 1064 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: him and you got Logan Ryan or Justin Coleman on 1065 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: Will Fuller, I mean, that's trouble. That's trouble if in 1066 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots maybe get after brock Osweiler and they get aggressive, 1067 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: but otherwise that's trouble. Peters on that one play, big 1068 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: play by Fuller, he gave him twelve yards a cushion 1069 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: that wasn't enough. Fuller still ran right savage and twenty 1070 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: three yards to catch. This year, through two games, Fuller, Fuller, 1071 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: and Hopkins have twenty one catches for over three fifty 1072 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. So that is a tan. Let's 1073 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: picked the game and get out of here. Mark picked 1074 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: the game and get out of here. Mark winner and 1075 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: the final New England thirty eight Houston Texans seven to 1076 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,879 Speaker 1: seventeen Houston, come on, baby, now or never, take care 1077 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: of business twenty to win. I have a policy against 1078 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: picking against the Patriots New England six Houston, and that's 1079 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: not what Mark and Greg did here. To me, isn't bold. 1080 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be stunned. Thank you. The Texans gotta take 1081 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,240 Speaker 1: care of business here though, I think this year's Texans 1082 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: are different Thursday night games, the home team, to me 1083 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 1: has a distinct advantage. All right, We'll be back uh 1084 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: late Thursday with a recap of this game in a 1085 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: preview of all the week three games to make sure 1086 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 1: you check it out. This is Dan Hanson signed up 1087 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 1: for the Quiet Storm, the mem and the Boss and 1088 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: the Idrisman behind the Glass still Man