WEBVTT - X2: X-Men United (2003)

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, today's episode can aid spoilers for 2003's X2, X-Men United.

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<v Speaker 1>Be warned. I found evidence of a mutant training facility

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<v Speaker 1>in upstate New York.

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<v Speaker 2>This facility is a school.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Mr. Stryker, do you really want to turn this into

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of war?

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<v Speaker 1>I was pulling a Black Ops missions in the jungles

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<v Speaker 1>of North Vietnam while you were sucking on your mama's

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<v Speaker 1>tit at Woodstock, Kelly. Don't lecture me about war. This

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<v Speaker 1>is already war. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Rosie Knight.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to X-Ray Vision, the podcast where we dive

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<v Speaker 1>deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to our weekly impending doomsday where we run

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<v Speaker 2>down the official Disney approved list of the 14 movies

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<v Speaker 2>and one TV show you need to watch before doomsday

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<v Speaker 2>so you don't have to or so you can watch

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<v Speaker 2>and listen along with us. So we'll start by telling

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<v Speaker 2>you some facts. What was it like in 2003 when

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<v Speaker 2>the movie was coming out? How did it happen? How

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<v Speaker 2>did the production go down? Then we'll recap. And at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, we will tell you why we think it's

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<v Speaker 2>included in the list. How is it going to tie

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<v Speaker 2>into Doomsday? What are our craziest theories? What are our

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<v Speaker 2>biggest hopes? We'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>First up, some quick hitting facts about X2, X-Men United.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Cumming, who plays Nightcrawler, had never heard of the X-Men.

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<v Speaker 1>He says on his own website, quote, I'd never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of the X-Men before. I can't do it in a

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<v Speaker 1>Scottish accent. I'd never heard of the X-Men before. before

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<v Speaker 1>I met Brian to talk about doing this movie. I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly had no idea who Nightcrawler was, and he spent

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<v Speaker 1>the shoot, quote, having to spend over four hours a

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<v Speaker 1>day having two men poke my face. All of those

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<v Speaker 1>little Kirk Wagner tattoos were applied by hand. He told

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<v Speaker 1>Variety in 2025 that they can do that in like

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<v Speaker 1>90 minutes now. Fox, by the way, took an option

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<v Speaker 1>on coming just in case he was going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a second film production in the X-Men franchise, the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing they did with basically all of the original cast

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<v Speaker 1>of the first movie. But as we all know, he

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<v Speaker 1>never ended up appearing in another film.

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<v Speaker 2>Fox mounted what was billed as the wildest globe, the widest, widest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this wasn't that wild. Fox mounted what

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<v Speaker 2>was billed as the widest global premiere ever staged, and

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<v Speaker 2>the reason was piracy. It opened day and date in

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<v Speaker 2>93 international markets on 7,600 prints, plus a record 3,741

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<v Speaker 2>screens worldwide. in theaters in the U.S., that's actually still

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<v Speaker 2>a huge wide release now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unheard of today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Breaking the... You've got to be the biggest, biggest movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's 3,600... It actually broke the 3,682 record of Chamber

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<v Speaker 2>of Secrets. It's set six months earlier. Suck it. Screen

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<v Speaker 2>International's headline, X2 Global Rampage Keeps Pirates at Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of forget pre... pre-infrared cameras in theaters and anti-piracy, like, stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And also streaming, which just changed piracy completely.

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<v Speaker 1>What a big deal it was for people to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>sneak a camcorder into the theater and then, like, put

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<v Speaker 1>the rip on the internet, like, immediately. That was, like,

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge thing at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Day-and-date releases were, like, unheard of. When I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>you sometimes had to wait, like, six months to get

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<v Speaker 2>a movie that had released in America to come to England. So, like,

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously that got shorter and shorter, and now it's

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<v Speaker 2>always within the same week, usually. Though for indie movies,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be longer. But yeah, I mean, doing it

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<v Speaker 2>all on one day, so crazy. And also a great

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<v Speaker 2>way to build the hype.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. The sequel matched the entire first movie's haul in

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<v Speaker 1>about a week and a half. X2 opened to 85 million,

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<v Speaker 1>85.5 million, exactly 31 million above X-Men's opening. the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>biggest domestic opening ever at the time. Huge movie. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>days in, it had hauled in $ 147 million. The first

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<v Speaker 1>film's whole domestic run was $ 157 million.

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<v Speaker 2>So, huge hit. Dude, how crazy is inflation? Because now

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<v Speaker 2>if a movie opened for that on the weekend, they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, is it a hit? Okay, so one of

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<v Speaker 2>the big inspiration source materials for this is God Loves,

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<v Speaker 2>Man Kills, published as a Marvel graphic novel number five.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very famous if you've seen it. by Chris Clemon

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<v Speaker 2>and Bren Anderson. But in the film, William Stryker is

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<v Speaker 2>completely changed. On the page, Marvel describes him as a

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<v Speaker 2>televangelist who turned his vast fortune and small army of

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<v Speaker 2>followers against mutants with words that inspired fear and hatred.

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<v Speaker 2>On screen, he's a soldier and Variety's review called him

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<v Speaker 2>an intolerant right-wing militarist. I mean, fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Singer and executive producer Tom DeSanto... had a huge blow

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<v Speaker 1>up on the set during production. Both men's accounts is

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<v Speaker 1>of a heated personal argument and that they reconciled the

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<v Speaker 1>next day. The Hollywood Reporter's 2020 investigation described something much larger,

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<v Speaker 1>a dispute over whether to keep shooting a stunt that

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<v Speaker 1>injured Hugh Jackman, which ended up resulting in, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>a day or more of lost production. And Fox ended

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<v Speaker 1>up siding with Singer, Pretty crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy. I mean, the Bryan Singer of it all is

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<v Speaker 2>just too horrible to even get into, but the drama

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<v Speaker 2>behind every single one of these movies all the way

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<v Speaker 2>to Days of Future Past is just completely crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with

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<v Speaker 1>the recap. And we're back. X2 X-Men United from 2003.

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<v Speaker 1>We open as a tour group.

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<v Speaker 2>Another incredible cold open!

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible character introductions throughout the first two movies. A tour

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<v Speaker 1>group is touring the White House, East Wing. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the docent is reading them Lincoln's, I think, inaugural address.

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<v Speaker 1>The quote being, you know, we must not be enemies.

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<v Speaker 1>We must be friends. There is a strange kind of

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<v Speaker 1>blue-looking guy in a trench coat and a hat pulled

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<v Speaker 1>low and sunglasses.

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<v Speaker 2>Classic Avengers costume.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of lurking around. The guard comes up and

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<v Speaker 1>is like, can I help you? And then a tail

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<v Speaker 1>pops up behind the guy, and it's just chaos from there.

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<v Speaker 1>The man is moving chaotically, bounding, and then disappearing and

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<v Speaker 1>then reappearing elsewhere. Um, the secret service rushes into the

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<v Speaker 1>Oval Office to tell the president, like, we gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. But then they realize they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>trapped in that room. And suddenly, boom, Nightcrawler teleports into

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<v Speaker 1>the room in a flash of smoke. There is, like,

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<v Speaker 1>gunfire erupting. And in this incredible sequence, he just, like,

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<v Speaker 1>teleports from guy to guy, taking them out one at

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<v Speaker 1>a time, throwing them around, punching them. And then finally

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<v Speaker 1>he leaps onto the president on top of the resolute desk.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got in his tail a knife that he's about

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<v Speaker 1>to stab the president with, but he doesn't stab the president.

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<v Speaker 1>He jams the knife down next to the president's head,

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<v Speaker 1>and the knife has a note attached to it that says,

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<v Speaker 1>Mutant Freedom Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, this sequence... blew me away. Visually, it

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<v Speaker 2>has not aged a day. And I will, that is

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<v Speaker 2>a hill I will die on. It's amazing. I was

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<v Speaker 2>standing next to my TV screen like a dad trying

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<v Speaker 2>to understand how they did the Nightcrawler effects. They look

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<v Speaker 2>so fluid, so real, so tangible, like you could touch them,

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<v Speaker 2>but also kind of so effervescent. It never dips. It

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<v Speaker 2>has held up so much better than than kind of

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<v Speaker 2>any of these other effects that we see, you know, storms, lightning.

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<v Speaker 2>It blew my mind how good it is. And also

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Cumming, like the range that that man fucking has,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's unbelievable in this movie. Total standout. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>The X-Men learn about this on TV as they're like

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<v Speaker 1>at a museum. At the food court, Bobby Drake and

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<v Speaker 1>Rogue are getting into it with a bunch of regular

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<v Speaker 1>human teenagers. There's a new character called John, who we

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<v Speaker 1>will later learn is called Pyro there. Pyro ends up

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<v Speaker 1>using his powers to kind of brush back the humans

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<v Speaker 1>who are being a little aggressive and harassing. Bobby then

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<v Speaker 1>uses his ice powers to kind of like put out

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<v Speaker 1>the flames. And the whole thing results in Professor X

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<v Speaker 1>having to freeze the entire museum and wipe everybody's mind

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I got to tell you, Charles Xavier, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>take these kids anywhere. You really can't. This is not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was a kid, I went to a school

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<v Speaker 2>where there was quite a lot of bad behavior, right?

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<v Speaker 2>We even had, when I was growing up, this is

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<v Speaker 2>how long ago I went to school, guys. In the school,

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<v Speaker 2>within the grounds, there was a smoking area where the

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<v Speaker 2>kids were allowed to smoke at break. It was that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of school. But believe me, if we went to

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<v Speaker 2>the museum, we weren't allowed to smoke a cigarette in

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<v Speaker 2>the museum or outside the museum on a school trip.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't do it. Charles, just keep them keep the

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<v Speaker 2>behavior in school. Let them use the powers in school.

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<v Speaker 2>There's got to be a no no powers rule. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is crazy that this happened in a public place.

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<v Speaker 2>And you just mind wiped everyone. Also, Charles Xavier's freezing

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<v Speaker 2>time powers really like coming in handy a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>this really.

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<v Speaker 1>Is uh xavier immediately understands that this assassination is some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of false flag it's not magneto it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>brotherhood it is some act designed to spark a confrontation

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<v Speaker 1>between humans and mutants Because also.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric would have just killed the president. Like, let's be real. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't have just left a little note.

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<v Speaker 1>We go back to the White House. Lady Deathstrike is

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<v Speaker 1>out in the foyer cracking her knuckles.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly Hu, we love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we love her. Inside the Oval Office, Colonel William

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<v Speaker 1>Stryker is presenting to the president evidence of a mutant

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<v Speaker 1>training facility in upstate New York, and he's asking the

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<v Speaker 1>president for authorization to basically raid the facility. He shows

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<v Speaker 1>the president, like, picture of a top secret some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of advanced jet coming up out of the basketball court

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<v Speaker 1>and it's clear the striker has a lot of inside

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<v Speaker 1>information about this place he knows a lot and and

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<v Speaker 1>senator kelly who we know is mystique because kelly is

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<v Speaker 1>dead standing across from him is like how do you

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<v Speaker 1>know all this and he's like oh you know the

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist leader magneto and this really gets mystique's attention as

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<v Speaker 1>kelly she's like oh do you have access to him

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<v Speaker 1>like how do how can i visit him Stryker Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't visit him. No way. Anyway, the president ends

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<v Speaker 1>up signing the authorization with the instructions that, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see dead kids, mutant or otherwise, on

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<v Speaker 1>the evening news. Back at school, Logan has come home

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<v Speaker 1>from Very, very poorly we are to discover exploring the

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<v Speaker 1>Weapon X facility at Alkali Lake.

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<v Speaker 2>This map is absolutely useless. I gotta say. This is

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<v Speaker 2>like ADHD levels of like, oh, why did I come

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<v Speaker 2>in here? It's like he walked into Weapon X and

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, what happened? I guess there's nothing here.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess there's nothing here. I guess we'll just go.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't you smell stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>It's fucking crazy. He actually went there and didn't find anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, which will be crazy. When we learn

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<v Speaker 1>what is actually going on.

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<v Speaker 2>He is.

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<v Speaker 1>Chatting it up with Rogue. Rogue introduces her boyfriend, Iceman,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Drake. Xavier takes Logan into Cerebro and is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to show you this. Check this out.

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<v Speaker 2>And also he says, don't be smoking in here or

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make you a six-year-old girl for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>your life and I'll make Jean braid your hair. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy thing to say, Charles. Just tell him to stop smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>That is actually like an insane thing. But listen, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>if you move it all in there, it really throws

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<v Speaker 1>them off. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also I think the floor drops away. The

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<v Speaker 2>floor drops away the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So he fires up Cerebro. We get our first real

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<v Speaker 1>look at what Cerebro can actually do. Fucking sick. And

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier pulls up every mutant in the world, which he

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<v Speaker 1>can tell somehow through Cerebro who are all the mutants

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<v Speaker 1>and he can pinpoint them. And there's this wonderful... image

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<v Speaker 1>of all these glowing dots all across the world there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot a lot of mutants and this is like

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<v Speaker 1>charles's way of telling logan hey you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>feel alone there's a lot of us like we can

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<v Speaker 1>we can you know you can find a family here

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<v Speaker 1>logan is like hey i went up to alkali lake

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<v Speaker 1>i didn't find anything could you just go into my

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<v Speaker 1>memories and like unlock this stuff and xavier is like

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work like that and we will later kind

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<v Speaker 1>of discover that Yes, he could do that, but he

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<v Speaker 1>chooses not to.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the ramifications? And I will say, they do actually

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<v Speaker 2>establish in a nice bit of storytelling in X1, which

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<v Speaker 2>you can hear us talk about on our first Impending

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<v Speaker 2>Doomsday episode, our first weekly one, but it's when they're

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation of diverging myself. No, they set it

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<v Speaker 2>up really nicely.

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<v Speaker 1>Storm and Jean fly to Boston to find this teleporter mutant.

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<v Speaker 1>They discover his name is Kurt Wagner from the Munich Circus.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the incredible Nightcrawler. His body is covered in

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<v Speaker 1>all these tattoos and scars, angelic symbols that he says

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<v Speaker 1>is one for every sin. He's a very religious man.

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<v Speaker 1>He remembers the White House attack like it was happening

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<v Speaker 1>to someone else. It's very clear there's some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>mind control was involved. Xavier and Scott, meanwhile, go to

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<v Speaker 1>visit Eric at the plastic prison to find out what

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<v Speaker 1>he knows. Scott waits outside while Charles goes all the

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<v Speaker 1>way into the plastic prison. And Eric looks very, very

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<v Speaker 1>tired and very haggard. He gives Charles a tidbit that

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of been sitting on. It's like, hey, remember

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<v Speaker 1>William Stryker? He's been coming to see me. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like you. Remember he had a son, Jason, who is

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<v Speaker 1>modeled after Jason Wingard from the comics, who is Mastermind.

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<v Speaker 1>who was a student at your school, and apparently you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do anything for him, and that's why Stryker is

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<v Speaker 1>really fucking pissed at you. And then Charles can tell

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<v Speaker 1>there's something else. He's like, what else? And Eric's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I told him everything about the X-Mansion, apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>Then gas starts coming into the room, and Charles and

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<v Speaker 1>Magneto are passing out. Scott sees this happening, and he

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<v Speaker 1>starts to swing the action, but Lady Deathstrike really too

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<v Speaker 1>easily takes him out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Way, way too easily.

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<v Speaker 1>Stryker then begins his raid on the school.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is so evil. This was making me want

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<v Speaker 2>to punch the TV evil. So I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>great villains. No villain problem in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Logan is in the kitchen hanging out with Bobby drinking

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<v Speaker 1>beer when the soldiers attack. And Logan can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hear them and smell that something's wrong. The soldiers are

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<v Speaker 1>in the hallways. They're like tranking people. the mutant kids

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<v Speaker 1>and carrying some of them away, but other kids are

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<v Speaker 1>realizing what's happening. They're using their powers to escape. Kitty,

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<v Speaker 1>Kitty prizes phases through the floor. Colossus is there. He

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<v Speaker 1>transforms into his metal form. He takes out some soldiers. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the soldiers burst into the kitchen and Logan like fucking

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<v Speaker 1>stabs them. Yeah. Berserker bit pins them to the fucking fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>And Bobby is like, Oh my God, this is horrific.

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<v Speaker 1>Logan and Colossus meet. He tells, Logan tells Colossus, like,

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<v Speaker 1>take all the kids to safety. Like, that's how you

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<v Speaker 1>can help me. And then Logan is just like tearing

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<v Speaker 1>through guys. At the climax of this, Stryker confronts them

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<v Speaker 1>across like a room. Stryker is like, Wolverine, don't shoot him.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, don't shoot him. Don't shoot him. Don't do it. Wolverine,

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<v Speaker 2>is that you? How long has it been? 15 years?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's clear that he knows a lot about Wolverine.

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<v Speaker 1>Logan is getting these flashes like, what the fuck? Bobby, luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>has his wits about him. He builds a huge ice

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<v Speaker 1>wall between them and they escape. Stryker and his guys

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the main mission, which is Cerebro. So

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<v Speaker 1>they go down to Cerebro, they take all the bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff and their plan is to reverse engineer Cerebro. Mystique,

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<v Speaker 1>while this is happening, finds Magneto's fat guard from the plastic, fat, brutal,

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<v Speaker 1>mean bully guard from the plastic prison in a dive bar,

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<v Speaker 1>just drinking his troubles away. Hank McCoy is on the,

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<v Speaker 1>is being interviewed on TV about something. She is disguised

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<v Speaker 1>as Rebecca Romijn, swimsuit model.

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<v Speaker 2>Sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>And she roofies him and injects him with like a big, big,

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<v Speaker 1>like needle full of microscopic bits of metal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it's like iron in your blood or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows? But it's incredible. I love this plan. Mystique,

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<v Speaker 2>she would never leave Eric. She's always got a scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>We then get the next great Magneto sequence here. As

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<v Speaker 1>this guard delivers Magneto his meal, Eric can feel something

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<v Speaker 1>different about you. Too much iron in your blood. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he pulls the iron out of his chest, killing him.

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<v Speaker 1>He turns the iron into these three metal balls, which

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<v Speaker 1>he then uses to smash his person, kill the guards,

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<v Speaker 1>and escape. I feel like they should have made the plastic.

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<v Speaker 2>like more bulletproof i feel like they didn't really think

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<v Speaker 2>this through but i love this it's such a good

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<v Speaker 2>sequence i was like blown away by just how many

0:18:23.270 --> 0:18:25.730
<v Speaker 2>murders there are in this movie like this is a

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<v Speaker 2>hardcore murder movie but then i will say and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to this they.

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<v Speaker 3>Deserve to die a lot of these people deserve to

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<v Speaker 3>die and there is some hypocritical like judgment among the

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<v Speaker 3>x-men around who is and isn't allowed to be killed

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<v Speaker 3>Which I think I would find a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>As a student.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to talk about this in our theorizing

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<v Speaker 1>section because I do, the amount of how militarized the

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<v Speaker 1>X-Men are, I think might be something that plays into Doomsday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we continue. Stryker takes Charles, who he has now captured,

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<v Speaker 1>to Alkali Lake and fits him with a neural inhibitor,

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<v Speaker 1>something that maybe could be important to Doomsday.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Stryker is just fucking pissed about it. He's really pissed

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<v Speaker 1>about Jason, his son. Apparently, when Charles sent Jason back,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason would put demented, strange, troubling scenarios into he and

0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Stryker's wife's mind. And his wife was driven so insane

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<v Speaker 1>that she committed suicide with a power drill. And Stryker

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<v Speaker 1>had his son lobotomized. He wheels the man in.

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<v Speaker 2>So nasty.

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<v Speaker 1>He's hooked up to this. And Charles is like, God!

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<v Speaker 2>This is your son.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>My son died. And then, you know, the boy is

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<v Speaker 1>completely not. boy, he's a man, full grown man, a

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<v Speaker 1>middle-aged man maybe. He's completely mute now. He's in a

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<v Speaker 1>wheelchair and he's hooked up to this like machine that

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<v Speaker 1>harvests the juice from his brain. And it's that brain

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<v Speaker 1>juice that Stryker is using to control his minions, including

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<v Speaker 1>Deathstrike and previously Nightcrawler. And it's clear that he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to use this to break Charles in the sand.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, we don't need to know how the machine works.

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<v Speaker 2>It works and it's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's brain juice.

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<v Speaker 2>Great storytelling.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my son's brain juice. I'm going to use it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to use it.

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<v Speaker 1>The escaped X-Men go to Bobby Drake's parents' house for

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<v Speaker 1>so many reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't even get me started on this. Why did they

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<v Speaker 2>go there?

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of those, like, in the moment, I'm like, why? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>still to this day, I'm like, why? Anyway, they go

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<v Speaker 1>to Bobby's house. Logan tries to use one of the X-phones,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not getting anybody on it. Bobby tells his

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<v Speaker 1>mom that he's a mutant, and his mom is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you ever try not being a mutant?

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I'm like, didn't they send him to Charles Xavier's

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<v Speaker 2>because he's a mutant? I guess they just believed he

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<v Speaker 2>was a gifted child.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Bobby's young Charlie Kirk brother is upstairs calling the police.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck? This fucking snitch?

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<v Speaker 1>Officers come, surround the house. They shoot Logan in the head,

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<v Speaker 1>which knocks him out. Pyro goes Firestarter the movie on

0:21:12.500 --> 0:21:14.580
<v Speaker 1>them and starts blowing up cruisers and the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say.

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<v Speaker 2>correctly what he had learned. When Logan.

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<v Speaker 1>What's he supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 2>When Logan protected the X-Mansion when it got attacked by

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<v Speaker 2>killing a bunch of people, right? Pyro saw that. Oh,

0:21:26.470 --> 0:21:28.550
<v Speaker 2>they shot this guy in the head. Guess I better

0:21:28.570 --> 0:21:31.189
<v Speaker 2>just blow up all these cop cars. That's what he

0:21:31.230 --> 0:21:33.750
<v Speaker 2>was taught. And then suddenly they're like, no, don't do it.

0:21:33.770 --> 0:21:38.449
<v Speaker 1>So Logan can decapitate people in defense of mutants. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Rogue drains a little bit of Pyro to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get him to chill out and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>X-Men show up and spirit them all away. The reassembled X-Men,

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<v Speaker 1>which is now Logan, Storm, Nightcrawler, Bobby, Johnny, Rogue, Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gene are flying away in the Blackbird when jets

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<v Speaker 1>attack it. A jet fires. Well, first of all, Rogue

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.070
<v Speaker 1>builds like a wall of multiple tornadoes, which is so

0:22:06.130 --> 0:22:06.970
<v Speaker 1>fucking sick.

0:22:07.190 --> 0:22:09.550
<v Speaker 2>Yes. It's one of the best uses of Storm's powers

0:22:09.590 --> 0:22:10.030
<v Speaker 2>we've seen.

0:22:10.150 --> 0:22:13.570
<v Speaker 1>That hurls planes away. But one plane manages to launch

0:22:13.609 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>its missiles. Jean, suddenly tapping in to hidden reserves of power,

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:26.690
<v Speaker 1>her eyes taking on a fiery glow. That might imply

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<v Speaker 1>a phoenix. Might imply a phoenix force. Manages to throw

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<v Speaker 1>one missile completely off its course, but then she can't

0:22:33.930 --> 0:22:35.830
<v Speaker 1>focus enough to take the other missile out. It hits

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<v Speaker 1>the Blackbird, tearing a hole in it. Rogue gets sucked out.

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.710
<v Speaker 1>Nightcrawler has to teleport out and save her, but It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like they're going to crash into the ground, but

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<v Speaker 1>before they can, Magneto, who is there for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>slows the jet and brings them all safely to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a nice little campfire cookout now, which I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that they're just like, let's build a fire.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm saying. I kind of love about

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<v Speaker 2>this movie that we would never get nowadays in storytelling.

0:23:06.750 --> 0:23:09.629
<v Speaker 2>They're just like, okay, villain, hero, team up already. We

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<v Speaker 2>only established that they have beef at the end of

0:23:11.410 --> 0:23:13.290
<v Speaker 2>the movie, but they're already back together, guys, because you

0:23:13.330 --> 0:23:16.010
<v Speaker 2>like it when they're together. It's like, yes, I do. Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to see the X-Men eating sausages around

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<v Speaker 2>a fire. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have a little campfire cookout. Mag explains Stryker's plan.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to build it. copy of Cerebro, and then

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<v Speaker 1>use his son, mastermind from the comics, to force Charles

0:23:34.420 --> 0:23:38.940
<v Speaker 1>to log in and kill all the mutants using Cerebro

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<v Speaker 1>with his mind, which he is powerful enough to do

0:23:41.670 --> 0:23:46.649
<v Speaker 1>with Cerebro amplifying his powers. Mag admits that, listen, I

0:23:46.690 --> 0:23:50.290
<v Speaker 1>did tell Stryker everything. under interrogation, but what are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to do?

0:23:50.550 --> 0:23:53.510
<v Speaker 2>He was using some kind of, like, truth serum on him, too,

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<v Speaker 2>because we see that they were putting it in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>The brain juice. The brain juice.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of works as a truth serum on Magneto.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he turns to Logan and is like, you know,

0:24:05.500 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>William Stryker's the only person I know alive who has

0:24:09.100 --> 0:24:15.370
<v Speaker 1>cracked the code on how to forge adamantium into usable forms.

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<v Speaker 1>So you must you know, surely that name must ring

0:24:21.100 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>a bell, right? Like you must understand like that you

0:24:23.619 --> 0:24:27.609
<v Speaker 1>are his creation, no? And then he's like, and by

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.609
<v Speaker 1>the way, Charles knew that, but he wanted you to

0:24:30.650 --> 0:24:32.510
<v Speaker 1>find out on your own, which I think is actually

0:24:32.550 --> 0:24:34.250
<v Speaker 1>the right move of Charles, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the thing I was, so what

0:24:36.090 --> 0:24:38.630
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to dig into my mind palace for

0:24:38.730 --> 0:24:41.980
<v Speaker 2>earlier is we saw the danger of someone going into

0:24:42.020 --> 0:24:44.930
<v Speaker 2>someone's mind, Logan's mind. We see it with Jean in X1.

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.250
<v Speaker 2>She goes into Logan's mind, He has the flashback for

0:24:48.270 --> 0:24:50.390
<v Speaker 2>the first time. She gasps. And then later that night,

0:24:50.430 --> 0:24:52.590
<v Speaker 2>he has the nightmare and he stabs Rogue. So I

0:24:52.609 --> 0:24:54.940
<v Speaker 2>think Charles did make the right choice here, though I

0:24:54.980 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 2>do think he's being a bit too Dumbledore-y for me,

0:24:57.700 --> 0:25:00.220
<v Speaker 2>like doing too much breadcrumbing with the clues. And he

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.260
<v Speaker 2>could have just given Wolverine a little bit more information

0:25:04.340 --> 0:25:06.120
<v Speaker 2>for him to find out himself. Though I will say,

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.629
<v Speaker 2>we did see Logan go and completely flub that. He

0:25:08.650 --> 0:25:11.230
<v Speaker 2>could have worked this out himself. So maybe once it's

0:25:11.270 --> 0:25:11.950
<v Speaker 2>not Charles' fault.

0:25:12.730 --> 0:25:15.369
<v Speaker 1>I think Charles was kind of, if he had more time,

0:25:15.410 --> 0:25:17.929
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is kind of, So Magneto has

0:25:17.970 --> 0:25:24.290
<v Speaker 1>a plan, which is we, you know, find William Stryker,

0:25:25.810 --> 0:25:28.649
<v Speaker 1>rescue Charles, kill him, and, you know, we just need

0:25:28.670 --> 0:25:31.959
<v Speaker 1>to figure out where they are. Jean reads Nightcrawler's mind

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and gets the location. It's Alkali Lake. Logan is like,

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.250
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, I was there. I didn't find, there's nothing there. Oh,

0:25:38.770 --> 0:25:42.110
<v Speaker 1>you walked in and walked back out.

0:25:42.369 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Didn't even fucking like go one floor down.

0:25:45.260 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the Grandpa Simpson meme.

0:25:47.180 --> 0:25:52.100
<v Speaker 2>In and out. Yeah, literally. There was nothing there. Guess what?

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.740
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot there, you fucking dummy. You didn't go

0:25:54.820 --> 0:25:56.500
<v Speaker 1>anywhere inside. You barely didn't.

0:25:56.380 --> 0:25:58.790
<v Speaker 2>Look for the stairs or anything. Idiot.

0:25:59.210 --> 0:26:00.550
<v Speaker 1>You fucking idiot.

0:26:00.910 --> 0:26:01.510
<v Speaker 2>Dumb cough.

0:26:01.910 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Gene and Logan have... An awkward convo about where things

0:26:06.940 --> 0:26:09.250
<v Speaker 1>stand between them and with Scott. This is in front

0:26:09.270 --> 0:26:10.990
<v Speaker 1>of the jet. You know, Jean is fixing the jet.

0:26:11.130 --> 0:26:15.450
<v Speaker 2>Chemistry is crackling. Logan's like running his hands down her neck.

0:26:15.530 --> 0:26:16.190
<v Speaker 2>It's very saucy.

0:26:16.210 --> 0:26:19.570
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Logan is like feeling it. Jean is feeling it too.

0:26:19.590 --> 0:26:21.340
<v Speaker 1>But she's like, no, you know, I'm with Scott.

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:22.210
<v Speaker 2>You know, that whole thing.

0:26:22.300 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>But then they kiss passionately. And it's so very mixed

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>messages going on.

0:26:28.180 --> 0:26:29.020
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on.

0:26:29.100 --> 0:26:30.699
<v Speaker 1>She breaks away. She's like, I can't do this. She

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>goes into the jet. mystique meanwhile is watching the whole

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.060
<v Speaker 1>thing she's getting some good ideas for later on kurt

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>comes up and has a chat with this woman who

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.660
<v Speaker 1>he does not know is his mom crazy it's like

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:44.250
<v Speaker 1>you know you could turn into anyone why don't you

0:26:44.270 --> 0:26:46.270
<v Speaker 1>look normal and she's like i shouldn't have to yeah.

0:26:46.830 --> 0:26:49.709
<v Speaker 2>She's a great lesson line it's so good she's like

0:26:49.810 --> 0:26:51.909
<v Speaker 2>fuck you i don't need to look normal.

0:26:52.190 --> 0:26:57.830
<v Speaker 1>Mystique then sneaks into logan's tent as gene which again

0:26:58.780 --> 0:27:01.660
<v Speaker 1>Logan should smell that that's Mystique. What the fuck?

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. This man's powers are off right now. Way,

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.810
<v Speaker 2>way off. Jason, he's thinking too much about getting cracked.

0:27:09.050 --> 0:27:12.830
<v Speaker 2>He's not thinking enough about being Wolverine. He can't stop

0:27:12.890 --> 0:27:16.450
<v Speaker 2>thinking about that psychic affair. What is going on? You're

0:27:16.470 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>really fucking up.

0:27:18.300 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, you know, he realizes what's going on. And then

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:23.659
<v Speaker 1>Mystique is like, well, what do you want? Like, and

0:27:23.740 --> 0:27:28.330
<v Speaker 1>she morphs to. Storm and then Rogue and then, you know,

0:27:28.390 --> 0:27:32.010
<v Speaker 1>Charles Xavier. And then the only way he figures out

0:27:32.050 --> 0:27:33.929
<v Speaker 1>that it's her, by the way, is that he feels

0:27:33.990 --> 0:27:36.290
<v Speaker 1>the scars from when he stabbed her in the first movie.

0:27:36.430 --> 0:27:38.570
<v Speaker 2>Wow. I'm surprised I didn't turn him on. That's like

0:27:38.630 --> 0:27:39.540
<v Speaker 2>very Wolverine.

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>So he gets mad. He kicks her out.

0:27:41.780 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 2>He's like, go away. Get out of here.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.420
<v Speaker 1>By morning, the jet is fixed and they're flying towards

0:27:47.500 --> 0:27:51.210
<v Speaker 1>Alkali Lake. Mag and Mystique are in the back, like

0:27:51.250 --> 0:27:53.770
<v Speaker 1>the cool kids. They're talking petty shit about everybody. They're

0:27:53.850 --> 0:27:55.149
<v Speaker 1>snickering and laughing.

0:27:55.270 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I know! Like, oh my god!

0:27:56.190 --> 0:27:58.310
<v Speaker 1>And they look over at Rogue. Like, Mag is such

0:27:58.350 --> 0:27:59.869
<v Speaker 1>a fucking petty queen.

0:28:00.030 --> 0:28:01.690
<v Speaker 2>He's such a cat.

0:28:01.710 --> 0:28:05.150
<v Speaker 1>He looks at Rogue, says something, whispers something to Mystique.

0:28:05.230 --> 0:28:06.130
<v Speaker 1>They're laughing.

0:28:06.210 --> 0:28:06.950
<v Speaker 2>Rogue's like, what?

0:28:07.850 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And Mag's like, I love what you've done with your hair.

0:28:10.540 --> 0:28:13.500
<v Speaker 1>Which obviously referenced her when he tried to kill her

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and use her to mutate the 200 UN delegates.

0:28:16.420 --> 0:28:16.580
<v Speaker 3>Crazy.

0:28:18.030 --> 0:28:20.290
<v Speaker 1>She is like, oh, yeah, bitch. She takes off her

0:28:20.530 --> 0:28:22.669
<v Speaker 1>white glove and is walking over like, I'm going to

0:28:22.750 --> 0:28:25.290
<v Speaker 1>drain you, bitches. Bobby has to.

0:28:25.170 --> 0:28:27.780
<v Speaker 2>Pull her away like, don't do it. Don't do it.

0:28:28.580 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Pyro is kind of looking at Magneto with some interest.

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:37.419
<v Speaker 1>He's playing with his little lighter. Magneto's like, what's your name? John. No,

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:41.590
<v Speaker 1>what's your real name? Pyro. And then, you know, he's

0:28:42.050 --> 0:28:44.350
<v Speaker 1>displaced just a little bit with his power. And he's like,

0:28:44.410 --> 0:28:47.270
<v Speaker 1>I can control the flames, but I can't create them.

0:28:48.220 --> 0:28:53.700
<v Speaker 1>And Magneto says, you are a god among insects. Never

0:28:53.740 --> 0:28:57.070
<v Speaker 1>let anyone tell you different. Which, listen. And then he looks,

0:28:57.250 --> 0:29:00.790
<v Speaker 1>this is what is so diabolical about Magneto in this movie.

0:29:01.670 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>He believes that I, I feel that. Like, that's Magneto's ideology.

0:29:06.890 --> 0:29:10.780
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, he looks at Mystique like, I

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>know that I just reeled him in with that one.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no.

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>He knows the game.

0:29:16.140 --> 0:29:19.220
<v Speaker 2>Like, I love the lines, but they work. They work.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>He knows how to, for lack of a better word,

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>groom these young mutants and get them in.

0:29:24.500 --> 0:29:27.460
<v Speaker 2>It's true. He knows that's what Pyro wanted to hear.

0:29:27.500 --> 0:29:29.180
<v Speaker 2>He knew what to say. That's why he's a great

0:29:29.270 --> 0:29:29.940
<v Speaker 2>cult leader.

0:29:30.390 --> 0:29:34.010
<v Speaker 1>At the dam, Cerebro is all ready. Stryker plans to

0:29:34.170 --> 0:29:38.530
<v Speaker 1>use the random mutant kids that he kidnapped from the

0:29:38.570 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>mansion to test, to make sure. that this whole killing

0:29:41.460 --> 0:29:45.180
<v Speaker 1>mutant scheme is going to work. Meanwhile, in the X-Jet,

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.510
<v Speaker 1>Storm is walking them all through a map of the base,

0:29:48.570 --> 0:29:51.610
<v Speaker 1>and they're looking at it. The issue is that there's

0:29:51.650 --> 0:29:54.970
<v Speaker 1>a spillway that they can fill with water, so somebody

0:29:54.990 --> 0:29:59.780
<v Speaker 1>needs to get in there and Go to the control

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:03.420
<v Speaker 1>room and disable the spill. Open the big door so

0:30:03.460 --> 0:30:06.130
<v Speaker 1>they can get in, but also disable the spillway so

0:30:06.170 --> 0:30:09.710
<v Speaker 1>it can't be filled with water and drown everybody. And Wolverine,

0:30:09.730 --> 0:30:12.070
<v Speaker 1>of course, is like, I'll do it. I'll go in there.

0:30:12.130 --> 0:30:14.650
<v Speaker 1>He wants me. Striker wants me. He'll let me in.

0:30:14.710 --> 0:30:15.610
<v Speaker 1>Magneto's like, you fuck.

0:30:17.310 --> 0:30:19.290
<v Speaker 2>You didn't even know how to come here. You couldn't

0:30:19.350 --> 0:30:22.810
<v Speaker 2>even find the stairs. You don't know what a spillway is.

0:30:22.830 --> 0:30:23.870
<v Speaker 2>Shut the fuck up.

0:30:24.130 --> 0:30:27.330
<v Speaker 1>The guy who took one look inside the facility and

0:30:27.350 --> 0:30:29.229
<v Speaker 1>then turned around, you're going to be the guy who

0:30:29.290 --> 0:30:31.870
<v Speaker 1>locates the control room and fucking turns and shit?

0:30:32.070 --> 0:30:32.390
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:30:33.010 --> 0:30:36.650
<v Speaker 1>Mystique's going in. So she goes in as Logan, which

0:30:36.790 --> 0:30:40.030
<v Speaker 1>somehow Stryker immediately sniffs out, which I.

0:30:40.110 --> 0:30:43.620
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. It's a cool moment, but also.

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.350
<v Speaker 1>It kind of doesn't make sense. I don't know.

0:30:46.370 --> 0:30:46.430
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.190
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe he's been taking the juice.

0:30:49.710 --> 0:30:52.730
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's been taking the juice. Anyway, he's immediately like,

0:30:52.890 --> 0:30:53.300
<v Speaker 1>kill it.

0:30:53.930 --> 0:30:55.870
<v Speaker 2>I know my creed. That is not one of mine.

0:30:56.570 --> 0:31:00.370
<v Speaker 1>In the chaos that ensues, which is wonderful, Mystique just

0:31:00.430 --> 0:31:03.850
<v Speaker 1>bamboozling these guys. She's sliding across the floor, giving them

0:31:03.890 --> 0:31:06.670
<v Speaker 1>the finger. She gets into the spillway control room. She

0:31:06.770 --> 0:31:10.390
<v Speaker 1>locks herself in, and the doors are apparently fucking super strong. Yeah,

0:31:10.410 --> 0:31:12.820
<v Speaker 1>because they cannot get in. They can't blast their way through.

0:31:13.770 --> 0:31:16.790
<v Speaker 1>Mystique opens the spillway and boom, the X-Men attack. They're

0:31:16.810 --> 0:31:21.390
<v Speaker 1>just killing everybody. I hope. Probably not killing, but we

0:31:21.410 --> 0:31:21.890
<v Speaker 1>want hopes.

0:31:22.190 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:22.780 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Jason has manipulated Charles into the Cerebro room and

0:31:27.540 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>is really getting him, like, saying, like, the mutants need

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:32.900
<v Speaker 1>your help. I need you to use Cerebro to locate

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:33.460
<v Speaker 1>all the mutants.

0:31:33.500 --> 0:31:35.870
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, little kid. I'm a little baby and I need

0:31:35.890 --> 0:31:36.370
<v Speaker 2>your help.

0:31:36.870 --> 0:31:40.110
<v Speaker 1>Mag and the X-Men make very short work of Stryker's forces.

0:31:40.970 --> 0:31:44.670
<v Speaker 1>Mystique shows them where the knockoff Cerebro is, and they

0:31:44.730 --> 0:31:47.830
<v Speaker 1>see on the kind of screen there where the kids are,

0:31:48.250 --> 0:31:52.020
<v Speaker 1>so they form into teams. Mag and Mystique, with Jean

0:31:52.060 --> 0:31:54.620
<v Speaker 1>making sure they don't get into trouble, will head for Cerebro.

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.260
<v Speaker 1>Storm and Nightcrawler will go for the kids, and Logan

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:00.100
<v Speaker 1>has already snuck off to go kill Striker.

0:32:00.260 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Of course he has. He's gone, as Jean says with

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:03.420
<v Speaker 2>her little sad face.

0:32:04.060 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Mind Control Scott then pops out.

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:07.340
<v Speaker 2>Crazy!

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:13.710
<v Speaker 1>Blasts at Magneto, Jean, and Mystique, but Jean manages to, like,

0:32:13.790 --> 0:32:16.810
<v Speaker 1>senses that he's coming. She pushes Magneto and Mystique.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:16.950
<v Speaker 2>Out of the way.

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And then Magneto delivers this wonderful line and was like,

0:32:21.100 --> 0:32:24.340
<v Speaker 1>this is one lover's quarrel that we shouldn't get involved.

0:32:23.940 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 2>In, my dear.

0:32:24.540 --> 0:32:26.340
<v Speaker 1>And then they, like, scurry away.

0:32:26.380 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>They're like, fuck it, let's go. Dude, he's so funny. Like,

0:32:29.940 --> 0:32:31.820
<v Speaker 2>Ian McKellen, he really bought it with this one.

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:35.030
<v Speaker 1>He is really full queen mode in this.

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.750
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, thespian. Like, he is so over the top

0:32:37.790 --> 0:32:38.130
<v Speaker 2>in this one.

0:32:38.370 --> 0:32:43.150
<v Speaker 1>I love it. So, Jean and Scott have a little fight.

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.780
<v Speaker 1>She manages to wake him up by, like, blasting him

0:32:47.180 --> 0:32:49.180
<v Speaker 1>instinctively with, like, some Phoenix Force.

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the Phoenix Force is able to, like,

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>push back his blasts at him or something. Yeah, it's

0:32:57.020 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>definitely a hint that she's already connected, which makes sense

0:33:00.740 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>with the end of the movie.

0:33:01.740 --> 0:33:06.270
<v Speaker 1>She's a very powerful telekinetic, but she is easily, like,

0:33:06.290 --> 0:33:09.370
<v Speaker 1>parrying his full optic blast.

0:33:09.390 --> 0:33:09.610
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:11.150 --> 0:33:16.450
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, he wakes up. But in tapping into the Phoenix Force.

0:33:16.850 --> 0:33:17.150
<v Speaker 2>Uh-oh.

0:33:17.630 --> 0:33:21.130
<v Speaker 1>The blast, the shockwave of the blast cracked the dam,

0:33:21.270 --> 0:33:23.990
<v Speaker 1>and now the dam is slowly coming apart. Like, this

0:33:24.020 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>whole facility is going to be destroyed. Water's dripping in.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Stryker realizes it, and he's like, No!

0:33:30.580 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Fuck! Fuming, fuming. Fuck!

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Storm and Nightcrawler go down. They get the kids out. Well,

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.820
<v Speaker 1>they find where the kids are, and they... Logan goes

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:44.140
<v Speaker 1>to the laboratory, which a whole area of the facility

0:33:44.180 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that he didn't see previously. Here's the answers to everything.

0:33:47.660 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Everything they were looking for. Charles pointed there. The craziest

0:33:51.660 --> 0:33:55.270
<v Speaker 2>thing is they literally just left the x-rays and the blueprints.

0:33:55.730 --> 0:33:58.950
<v Speaker 2>On the wall. It's like they never, they never left.

0:33:58.990 --> 0:34:01.310
<v Speaker 2>They never changed your room. Like he left it there

0:34:01.390 --> 0:34:03.310
<v Speaker 2>for you. He left it there for you.

0:34:03.470 --> 0:34:07.990
<v Speaker 1>The adamantium is still bubbling in the pot. Charles was like,

0:34:08.030 --> 0:34:10.299
<v Speaker 1>go to Alkali Lake. Wolverine's like, okay, comes back.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.219
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I didn't find anything. You moron. Nothing there, mate. Yeah,

0:34:13.260 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 2>that's why Charles was like, I'm not telling you anything else.

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:16.940
<v Speaker 2>You are fucking dumb, bro. Fucking idiot.

0:34:17.140 --> 0:34:20.060
<v Speaker 1>You fucking moron.

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

0:34:21.050 --> 0:34:25.210
<v Speaker 1>He's like blown away, seeing all this shit. Oh my God,

0:34:25.270 --> 0:34:25.830
<v Speaker 1>look at that.

0:34:25.870 --> 0:34:29.910
<v Speaker 2>That's my x-ray. That's all happening. I'm remembering everything.

0:34:29.950 --> 0:34:33.859
<v Speaker 1>He's getting the flashes, the memories trickling out. Then Striker

0:34:33.890 --> 0:34:37.500
<v Speaker 1>shows up. He's like, yeah, Wolverine. Ring any bells, all

0:34:37.540 --> 0:34:40.580
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, adamantium? Look at that adamantium. You know the

0:34:40.620 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>thing about adamantium, Wolverine? If you can manage to break

0:34:45.100 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it down into its pure liquid form, you got to

0:34:48.660 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>keep it there. Because once it cools, it's indestructible. And

0:34:53.620 --> 0:34:57.009
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Wolverine, I thought when I met you,

0:34:57.030 --> 0:34:59.850
<v Speaker 1>I admit you were one of a kind.

0:35:00.090 --> 0:35:00.750
<v Speaker 2>I was wrong.

0:35:01.190 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>And then he sends Lady Deathstrike in. She goes in.

0:35:03.690 --> 0:35:07.450
<v Speaker 1>they have a fucking crazy fight to the death.

0:35:07.469 --> 0:35:09.310
<v Speaker 2>I love this fight so much and it makes me

0:35:09.430 --> 0:35:11.870
<v Speaker 2>so mad because this is like, this is the issue

0:35:11.910 --> 0:35:15.049
<v Speaker 2>when you go back and watch like a pre-MCU movie,

0:35:15.070 --> 0:35:17.390
<v Speaker 2>a movie like this, right? Yeah. It's like, you can

0:35:17.430 --> 0:35:20.430
<v Speaker 2>get an incredible character, an incredible performance by Kelly Hu,

0:35:20.489 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 2>an incredible character like Lady Astrack who you would immediately

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.100
<v Speaker 2>watch a sequel of and they'll just kill them off.

0:35:25.580 --> 0:35:28.900
<v Speaker 2>Because they didn't have that longevity franchising mindset in the

0:35:28.940 --> 0:35:31.740
<v Speaker 2>same way, for better and worse. But it is gutting.

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.219
<v Speaker 2>And I think this is, her death is like one

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.660
<v Speaker 2>of the moments I think of, like, it's so harrowing

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.460
<v Speaker 2>when it happens. Especially when you know she's under mind control.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.299
<v Speaker 1>Totally. It's very, very sad, actually. So, you know, the

0:35:44.430 --> 0:35:48.930
<v Speaker 1>healing factors, they both have adamantium claws. Logan is really

0:35:48.969 --> 0:35:50.790
<v Speaker 1>on the verge of getting murked by her.

0:35:51.130 --> 0:35:51.330
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:51.390 --> 0:35:55.069
<v Speaker 1>But he finally prevails by injecting her with the molten adamantium.

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:57.570
<v Speaker 1>which sinks her to the bottom of the.

0:35:57.580 --> 0:36:00.140
<v Speaker 2>Like, runs out of her mouth. Oh, yeah.

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.980
<v Speaker 1>He can't even... This is, like, a hardened killer. He

0:36:03.020 --> 0:36:05.070
<v Speaker 1>can't bear to look at it. It is very sad

0:36:05.110 --> 0:36:06.489
<v Speaker 1>because she has no idea what's going on.

0:36:06.710 --> 0:36:10.529
<v Speaker 2>And also, it's also, like, that's his worst nightmare.

0:36:10.570 --> 0:36:10.790
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:10.810 --> 0:36:12.790
<v Speaker 2>He's back at the place where it happened, just like

0:36:12.890 --> 0:36:16.129
<v Speaker 2>she is, and he would die in that place, like,

0:36:16.250 --> 0:36:18.370
<v Speaker 2>being filled with that. It's so horrible, and they do

0:36:18.430 --> 0:36:21.290
<v Speaker 2>it so well. And, yeah, it really makes you just realize, like,

0:36:21.350 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Stryker's so evil. And the thing I love about it is, like,

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.390
<v Speaker 2>There's no good version of Weapon X. It's like it

0:36:27.469 --> 0:36:30.530
<v Speaker 2>kills everything it touches. And this is like even Wolverine

0:36:30.570 --> 0:36:32.270
<v Speaker 2>in this moment has to do something he doesn't want

0:36:32.290 --> 0:36:34.330
<v Speaker 2>to do by being back in that space. Like, it's

0:36:34.370 --> 0:36:34.830
<v Speaker 2>so good.

0:36:35.410 --> 0:36:38.710
<v Speaker 1>In the knockoff Cerebro room, Charles, under Jason's control, is

0:36:38.830 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>like locating all the mutants. He's almost there. Outside, Magneto...

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>takes out like a squad of guys. He pulls the

0:36:47.380 --> 0:36:49.260
<v Speaker 1>pins on all their grenades. They all die.

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny that Stryker thought that was going to

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.460
<v Speaker 2>go any other way with Magneto in the building. Like

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.090
<v Speaker 2>bring out the plastic guns, babe. I know you made enough.

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.149
<v Speaker 1>Hallway now drenched in the goo of all these guys.

0:37:00.210 --> 0:37:04.250
<v Speaker 1>Magneto pulls the doors apart, walks in the room and

0:37:04.330 --> 0:37:08.469
<v Speaker 1>is now face to face with little, little, you know,

0:37:08.550 --> 0:37:13.980
<v Speaker 1>Jason Wingard or Jason Stryker. Yeah. Um, He can't do

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:18.500
<v Speaker 1>anything with Magneto, of course, because Magneto has the anti-telepathy

0:37:18.700 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>helmet on that he used to guard him from Charles.

0:37:21.260 --> 0:37:23.630
<v Speaker 1>So of course, if Charles can't get to him, Jason

0:37:23.690 --> 0:37:25.810
<v Speaker 1>is not going to be able to attack this little

0:37:26.190 --> 0:37:31.890
<v Speaker 1>dorky helmet. Magneto then, understanding exactly how this device works,

0:37:32.030 --> 0:37:35.469
<v Speaker 1>rewires Cerebro, putting the panels in a different configuration, and

0:37:36.340 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>then has Mystique turn into striker this.

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.620
<v Speaker 2>Is so crazy.

0:37:42.380 --> 0:37:46.609
<v Speaker 1>Incredible mystique turns into striker jason's dad and gives him

0:37:46.710 --> 0:37:49.850
<v Speaker 1>new orders now which you don't have to be a

0:37:49.890 --> 0:37:51.790
<v Speaker 1>fucking genius to figure out what magneto is going to

0:37:51.830 --> 0:37:56.740
<v Speaker 1>do magneto says goodbye seals the doors and then he

0:37:56.780 --> 0:37:59.980
<v Speaker 1>and mystique leave and jason immediately was like i've got

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to kill all the humans now charles you gotta kill

0:38:03.180 --> 0:38:06.910
<v Speaker 1>all the humans Logan finds Striker at his escape plane.

0:38:07.190 --> 0:38:10.149
<v Speaker 1>In and out. All of a sudden, Logan can find

0:38:10.190 --> 0:38:12.049
<v Speaker 1>his way all around this facility, by the way.

0:38:12.090 --> 0:38:14.750
<v Speaker 2>Now he knows it very well. Now he knows all

0:38:14.790 --> 0:38:15.430
<v Speaker 2>the doors.

0:38:15.489 --> 0:38:17.210
<v Speaker 1>You fucking moron.

0:38:17.350 --> 0:38:18.150
<v Speaker 2>You dunk off.

0:38:18.390 --> 0:38:21.250
<v Speaker 1>It really can't be said enough what a fucking idiot

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:21.850
<v Speaker 1>Wolverine is.

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.260
<v Speaker 2>He really flopped this through. No one else would have

0:38:24.300 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>to be there. He could have just been there himself.

0:38:27.020 --> 0:38:30.140
<v Speaker 2>Sorted this out. None of this would have happened. I

0:38:30.180 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 2>can remember.

0:38:31.150 --> 0:38:35.629
<v Speaker 1>He learns from Stryker, oh, you volunteered, Wolverine. Oh, you

0:38:35.730 --> 0:38:39.140
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do it. Stryker tells Logan that, oh, yeah,

0:38:40.340 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you were a real piece of work back then, Wolverine,

0:38:42.620 --> 0:38:46.340
<v Speaker 1>just like now. Then an alarm starts sounding in the distance,

0:38:46.380 --> 0:38:51.250
<v Speaker 1>and we realize the dam is fully coming apart now. Magneto, meanwhile,

0:38:52.150 --> 0:38:53.930
<v Speaker 1>this cannot be said enough.

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>You were texting the group chat about this so stressed.

0:38:57.739 --> 0:39:02.130
<v Speaker 1>Magneto understands the dam is coming apart, right? And he's

0:39:02.170 --> 0:39:05.870
<v Speaker 1>just like, well, I'm leaving my good friend and lover

0:39:06.010 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Charles to die down here along with these mutant children.

0:39:11.860 --> 0:39:13.660
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which wasn't the whole reason you went there. I

0:39:13.660 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>guess the whole reason you really went there was to

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:21.529
<v Speaker 2>just kill... It is crazy because like, you know what

0:39:21.550 --> 0:39:24.299
<v Speaker 2>I would say? This is like his response to Charles

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.930
<v Speaker 2>putting him in prison. This is like flirtation for the

0:39:27.010 --> 0:39:29.149
<v Speaker 2>two of them. But it's like, you're going to save

0:39:29.190 --> 0:39:30.899
<v Speaker 2>all that. You're going to kill. all these kids. Like,

0:39:30.940 --> 0:39:33.100
<v Speaker 2>come on. It's crazy. Magneo is so toxic.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.330
<v Speaker 1>I guess he's thinking like, well, if you can't get

0:39:35.410 --> 0:39:37.930
<v Speaker 1>out of this, Charles, you're not worth your mutant card

0:39:38.050 --> 0:39:39.549
<v Speaker 1>or something. Whatever.

0:39:39.610 --> 0:39:40.330
<v Speaker 2>He's crazy.

0:39:40.350 --> 0:39:43.860
<v Speaker 1>It's just. The fact that we never addressed that he

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.339
<v Speaker 1>just left Charles to die is truly crazy.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.620
<v Speaker 2>This is another Charles Xavier leadership issue too, because it's like,

0:39:49.660 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 2>you're just going to trust this man. Like, come on.

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.180
<v Speaker 2>Every time you trust this man, some shenanigans occurs.

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.460
<v Speaker 1>So Logan, for once, not wanting to kill a guy,

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.989
<v Speaker 1>ties Stryker to his plane with, I don't know why,

0:40:01.070 --> 0:40:04.410
<v Speaker 1>to his plane with chains and then goes back in.

0:40:04.989 --> 0:40:07.009
<v Speaker 1>He knows exactly the way to go now. He knows

0:40:07.050 --> 0:40:09.750
<v Speaker 1>how to navigate all the quarters now to save Charles

0:40:09.790 --> 0:40:14.140
<v Speaker 1>and everybody else, the X-Men and the Damned. Speaking of which, Jean, Scott, Aurora,

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.860
<v Speaker 1>and Nightcrawler and the kids arrive outside the knockoff's room.

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Jean realizes what Magneto's done, rewired it to kill the humans.

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Just then, Charles begins the attack and billions of people

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.220
<v Speaker 1>all across the globe fall. Can you imagine? Like, planes

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:29.980
<v Speaker 1>are crashing.

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Dude, it would cause so much issues. Like, it would

0:40:32.900 --> 0:40:34.700
<v Speaker 2>be like Leftovers-level chaos.

0:40:34.739 --> 0:40:37.620
<v Speaker 1>Like, how many people probably died in this? Like, millions.

0:40:37.820 --> 0:40:40.950
<v Speaker 2>Truly millions died. Oh, you know what's kind of interesting?

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess you could kind of see Logan as a

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:47.049
<v Speaker 2>sequel to just this act. I've never really put it

0:40:47.110 --> 0:40:49.310
<v Speaker 2>together before because they always say he had this like

0:40:49.410 --> 0:40:52.950
<v Speaker 2>psychic seizure, right? But it really could, if you wanted to,

0:40:53.010 --> 0:40:55.940
<v Speaker 2>it could be like the real fallout of this.

0:40:56.020 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, For later, I do wonder if

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:03.180
<v Speaker 1>that isn't what Doomsday builds on, too. The fact that, like,

0:41:03.219 --> 0:41:05.979
<v Speaker 1>Charles Xavier here probably killed, like, 20 million people.

0:41:06.140 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Easy. Oh, my God, Jason. That, I mean, he

0:41:08.660 --> 0:41:11.420
<v Speaker 2>could have killed Doom's family. I mean, he fucking knows.

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.700
<v Speaker 1>People, like, this is, like, what Gene did, but across

0:41:14.739 --> 0:41:18.060
<v Speaker 1>the globe. Like, 8 billion people were just stricken. Anyway,

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Storm is like, okay, get me in that room, Nightcrawler.

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.020
<v Speaker 1>Nightcrawler's like, I can't because I have to see it

0:41:23.060 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>first and we might end up in a, in the

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.739
<v Speaker 1>wall or something and and aurora's like i have i

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:31.410
<v Speaker 1>have faith in you yeah christian allegory um they get

0:41:31.469 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>in there but of course jason's powers are very very

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.210
<v Speaker 1>strong and they can't trust anything they see they just

0:41:36.250 --> 0:41:40.129
<v Speaker 1>see they see no charles nothing yeah he costs illusions

0:41:40.210 --> 0:41:44.550
<v Speaker 1>essentially but it's just jason in his child form meanwhile

0:41:44.630 --> 0:41:48.950
<v Speaker 1>mag and mystique steal a helicopter and seeing pyro over

0:41:48.989 --> 0:41:51.509
<v Speaker 1>there in the in the trees they like i just

0:41:51.590 --> 0:41:53.919
<v Speaker 1>beckon them over and they leave with Okay, I just want.

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.720
<v Speaker 2>To say, I do love that Magneto's like, I'm angry

0:41:56.739 --> 0:41:58.469
<v Speaker 2>with Charles, but I've made a new friend, and I've

0:41:58.489 --> 0:42:01.029
<v Speaker 2>got to save my new friend, okay? He's got to

0:42:01.070 --> 0:42:02.710
<v Speaker 2>come with us. He's so fun. We should take him

0:42:02.730 --> 0:42:04.109
<v Speaker 2>to the afters. Yes.

0:42:04.390 --> 0:42:08.510
<v Speaker 1>In Cerebro, in the Cerebro room, Aurora drops the temperature

0:42:08.570 --> 0:42:09.190
<v Speaker 1>to freezing freezing.

0:42:09.210 --> 0:42:13.260
<v Speaker 2>That's why she's the queen. Clever, clever, clever plan. Clever.

0:42:13.780 --> 0:42:19.280
<v Speaker 1>This stops the illusions. Charles wakes up. stops the attack.

0:42:19.700 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>But now the dam is fully filling with water and

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:26.060
<v Speaker 1>cracking and it's all coming apart. Jean, in this moment,

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.459
<v Speaker 1>can only, she's like, where's, oh my God, Logan, don't worry.

0:42:29.540 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 2>She's like, shit, I hope I can get my shit

0:42:31.020 --> 0:42:33.069
<v Speaker 2>cracked by Logan if we get out of this.

0:42:33.090 --> 0:42:34.529
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, Logan knows his way out.

0:42:35.310 --> 0:42:36.590
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we know that now.

0:42:36.870 --> 0:42:41.450
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, the X-Men are fleeing. Everything is, the water is

0:42:41.550 --> 0:42:45.110
<v Speaker 1>rushing in. They're carrying Charles. They've got the random mutant kids.

0:42:45.130 --> 0:42:47.860
<v Speaker 1>They meet Logan on his way out. He stabs All

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>he can do is stab stuff. He stabs the control

0:42:49.940 --> 0:42:52.780
<v Speaker 1>panel of the spillway, closing the doors on the water.

0:42:52.820 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>But we all understand that's not going to hold the

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:58.510
<v Speaker 1>water for long. Logan's like, don't worry. I know exact.

0:42:58.570 --> 0:43:02.649
<v Speaker 1>I've mapped this whole facility out now. Now that I've

0:43:02.690 --> 0:43:08.510
<v Speaker 1>had time. I will show you one of the side

0:43:08.570 --> 0:43:10.500
<v Speaker 1>doors that I found. And so he leaves them on

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:12.299
<v Speaker 1>a side door as the dam is crumbling behind them.

0:43:12.940 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>But now they come to where the helicopter is. It's gone.

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.430
<v Speaker 1>Mag stole it. So they're like, the water is going

0:43:17.450 --> 0:43:21.250
<v Speaker 1>to flood this whole area. But then the Blackbird comes

0:43:22.070 --> 0:43:25.650
<v Speaker 1>hurtling over the trees. Rogue is like at the wheel.

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>This is honestly so funny, Rosie.

0:43:29.219 --> 0:43:34.379
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's so funny. I feel like you're teaching, like,

0:43:34.460 --> 0:43:37.050
<v Speaker 2>what are you actually teaching? You're not teaching them not

0:43:37.090 --> 0:43:39.310
<v Speaker 2>to use their powers. You're not teaching them how to

0:43:39.370 --> 0:43:41.790
<v Speaker 2>use their powers. You're not teaching them how to drive

0:43:41.850 --> 0:43:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the plane. Like, come on.

0:43:43.270 --> 0:43:46.569
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do we do in geometry? Like, fucking history. Like,

0:43:46.630 --> 0:43:49.950
<v Speaker 1>teach her to fly the plane. She luckily has, like,

0:43:49.989 --> 0:43:53.340
<v Speaker 1>absorbed enough to manage to take it off and fly

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 1>it over to them. She crashes it hard, but it's

0:43:56.580 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>basically intact. And then she's like, in the pilot seat,

0:44:00.460 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh my God, I can't believe it. So Logan,

0:44:06.300 --> 0:44:08.700
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, who is like separated from everybody, is

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:13.370
<v Speaker 1>like carrying some random mutant child and he runs across Stryker.

0:44:13.730 --> 0:44:16.069
<v Speaker 2>I remember this was a big conversation and I do think-

0:44:16.090 --> 0:44:18.469
<v Speaker 2>Why is he there? No one knows why he's there,

0:44:18.510 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 2>but the kid, it- is actually, I think, from where

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.470
<v Speaker 2>the episode, I think he's been confirmed that it's meant

0:44:24.489 --> 0:44:27.250
<v Speaker 2>to be like Artie. Yeah. Because he has the blue tongue, right?

0:44:27.510 --> 0:44:29.170
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you just see Logan and you're like, why

0:44:29.190 --> 0:44:30.010
<v Speaker 2>is he by himself?

0:44:30.290 --> 0:44:32.049
<v Speaker 1>Why is he by himself? So he's by himself.

0:44:32.090 --> 0:44:33.090
<v Speaker 2>I thought he knew where he was going.

0:44:33.290 --> 0:44:36.129
<v Speaker 1>He's by himself with Artie, carrying Artie, and they find

0:44:36.190 --> 0:44:41.210
<v Speaker 1>Striker now chained to a wall. And Wolverine's like, oh yeah,

0:44:41.510 --> 0:44:43.739
<v Speaker 1>big symbolic moment. Here's your dog. He throws the dog's

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>head at him and leaves him. Artie sticks his tongue out.

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Artie sticks his tongue out so he knows Artie.

0:44:48.660 --> 0:44:52.690
<v Speaker 1>Now they all, uh, board the Blackbird and Charles is

0:44:52.730 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>like he can feel oh my god something we have

0:44:55.820 --> 0:44:57.740
<v Speaker 1>to go to DC because I can tell the humans

0:44:57.780 --> 0:44:59.340
<v Speaker 1>are super pissed that I killed 20 people.

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.879
<v Speaker 2>He's like fuck fuck I think I did something really

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 2>bad shit shit shit shit shit sorry guys sorry guys

0:45:04.380 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 2>sorry guys I gotta go scare the president into shitting

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.770
<v Speaker 2>his pants so he doesn't do this again I think

0:45:09.870 --> 0:45:10.930
<v Speaker 2>I I killed.

0:45:10.690 --> 0:45:13.910
<v Speaker 1>Like the amount of victims of World War II just

0:45:13.950 --> 0:45:16.390
<v Speaker 1>now so like we gotta get to DC yeah um

0:45:16.730 --> 0:45:21.030
<v Speaker 1>but Jean, of course, thankful that Logan made it there.

0:45:22.730 --> 0:45:25.489
<v Speaker 1>They realize, they're like, where's Johnny? Johnny's with Magneto. But

0:45:25.550 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>now the jet is a problem. When Rogue- Slash a

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:32.380
<v Speaker 1>movie vibe. It just won't stop. It won't start. Landed

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:34.020
<v Speaker 1>it too hard. They're trying to figure out how to

0:45:34.060 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>get it online.

0:45:34.620 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh my God, the thrusters, no power.

0:45:36.660 --> 0:45:39.430
<v Speaker 1>The dam is just fully gone now. Tons of water

0:45:39.450 --> 0:45:43.029
<v Speaker 1>bearing down on them. Jean gets this, some sort of

0:45:43.090 --> 0:45:45.390
<v Speaker 1>feeling like she knows what to do. She's like, oh

0:45:45.410 --> 0:45:46.950
<v Speaker 1>my God, I know what to do. And I'm not

0:45:46.969 --> 0:45:48.299
<v Speaker 1>going to tell anybody because they're going to stop me.

0:45:48.340 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>She goes outside, instinctively taps in now to the Phoenix powers,

0:45:53.620 --> 0:45:57.109
<v Speaker 1>which she's barely can control, but she's controlling them now.

0:45:57.890 --> 0:46:01.490
<v Speaker 1>And Because of these immense powers, she's able to divert

0:46:01.530 --> 0:46:04.410
<v Speaker 1>the waters around the jet and also lift the jet

0:46:04.450 --> 0:46:07.460
<v Speaker 1>so it can start. Scott is inside like, what?

0:46:07.580 --> 0:46:13.260
<v Speaker 2>Open the fucking door. Open the door. Oh, no.

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.549
<v Speaker 1>Everybody else is like, honestly, pretty chill.

0:46:16.989 --> 0:46:20.330
<v Speaker 2>Charles is like. Just only Logan.

0:46:21.030 --> 0:46:23.650
<v Speaker 1>Logan is like holding it together a little bit, but

0:46:23.710 --> 0:46:25.310
<v Speaker 1>like Scott is losing his shit.

0:46:25.350 --> 0:46:25.509
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:29.690
<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile, all the random mutant kids are like, this is,

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe we're watching this. This is crazy. Like,

0:46:32.100 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is happening? And long story short, they

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:41.310
<v Speaker 1>take off. Jean is swept away in the waters and dies. Oh, yeah.

0:46:41.330 --> 0:46:42.710
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say as well, like, there's a

0:46:42.730 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 2>great moment here that's so funny. Where Scott's like going

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.140
<v Speaker 2>crazy and he's like, no. And Logan's like, she's gone.

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>And then Scott ends up like hugging and like crying.

0:46:52.620 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Imagine if your wife died and you're hugging up on

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:59.509
<v Speaker 2>her situationship, like crying, like, oh, you're the only one

0:46:59.530 --> 0:47:01.029
<v Speaker 2>who knows how much she means to me.

0:47:01.550 --> 0:47:04.930
<v Speaker 1>The president, meanwhile, is like scanning a draft of the

0:47:04.989 --> 0:47:07.730
<v Speaker 1>speech about the 20 million people who just died in

0:47:07.750 --> 0:47:09.569
<v Speaker 1>the mutant attack that just happened, that he's about to

0:47:09.650 --> 0:47:12.219
<v Speaker 1>read to the world and to the nation and He

0:47:12.260 --> 0:47:13.980
<v Speaker 1>goes to the Oval, sits at the desk, they count

0:47:14.020 --> 0:47:16.470
<v Speaker 1>it down, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And he begins

0:47:16.510 --> 0:47:19.350
<v Speaker 1>to read. There's then a rumble of thunder and dark

0:47:19.430 --> 0:47:23.570
<v Speaker 1>clouds make the entire area go almost pitch black as

0:47:23.630 --> 0:47:25.990
<v Speaker 1>if it's night and then everyone freezes and the X-Men

0:47:26.010 --> 0:47:31.069
<v Speaker 1>are in the room. Charles introduces himself. Rogue gives the

0:47:31.110 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>President the folder containing all of Stryker's files and we basically,

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.919
<v Speaker 1>the President now realizes Stryker was behind all of this.

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:40.299
<v Speaker 2>Uh-oh.

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>He did the First attack on the Oval Office. Doing

0:47:44.580 --> 0:47:50.180
<v Speaker 1>mind control on mutants did that. He engineered the attack that... Listen,

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.029
<v Speaker 1>Magneto rewired the thing, but we don't need to go

0:47:52.050 --> 0:47:57.830
<v Speaker 1>into that. He basically built the Cerebro weapon that Charles,

0:47:58.070 --> 0:48:02.650
<v Speaker 1>under mind control, used to attack humans. And the president

0:48:02.730 --> 0:48:05.050
<v Speaker 1>reads this material and is like, I didn't know anything

0:48:05.110 --> 0:48:06.830
<v Speaker 1>about this. What the fuck?

0:48:07.270 --> 0:48:08.410
<v Speaker 2>How could this happen?

0:48:08.739 --> 0:48:12.900
<v Speaker 1>What has happened? Charles then... Without using his mind control

0:48:12.980 --> 0:48:15.290
<v Speaker 1>as a suggestion, basically being like, hey, you're going to,

0:48:16.020 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 1>out of the goodness of your heart, but also realizing

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.450
<v Speaker 1>how powerful we are, you should do this. He basically says, listen,

0:48:21.510 --> 0:48:25.049
<v Speaker 1>walk back your rhetoric, blame Stryker for it. He said

0:48:25.090 --> 0:48:26.989
<v Speaker 1>in not so many words, this is what you get

0:48:27.030 --> 0:48:30.030
<v Speaker 1>from the scene. Blame Stryker and say it was Stryker,

0:48:30.110 --> 0:48:32.150
<v Speaker 1>not mutants who did this. We're going to be watching

0:48:32.170 --> 0:48:34.509
<v Speaker 1>what you do next. And then the storm clouds lift,

0:48:34.530 --> 0:48:38.089
<v Speaker 1>the X-Men are gone, and we realize that you know,

0:48:38.170 --> 0:48:41.129
<v Speaker 1>Charles has freeze time again. And the president looks down.

0:48:41.170 --> 0:48:44.410
<v Speaker 2>If I'm the president and Charles Xavier froze time on me,

0:48:44.489 --> 0:48:46.530
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting him in jail. I think like if this

0:48:46.590 --> 0:48:49.340
<v Speaker 2>man has the prep, the, the, the, I get it.

0:48:49.380 --> 0:48:53.219
<v Speaker 2>The idea is the president is sold on what they are.

0:48:53.260 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>They are selling, which is like, don't do it.

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:57.020
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't start a war. We can live happily. Like, And

0:48:59.739 --> 0:49:03.460
<v Speaker 2>it is a great moment. It's super cool. But also,

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:06.620
<v Speaker 2>if you think about it strategically, I'm putting that man

0:49:06.660 --> 0:49:10.390
<v Speaker 2>in the deepest cell in the basement of the Pentagon.

0:49:11.010 --> 0:49:12.129
<v Speaker 2>There's no way I'm letting him out.

0:49:12.670 --> 0:49:16.170
<v Speaker 1>So the president, it's now we're back and people are

0:49:16.190 --> 0:49:19.270
<v Speaker 1>looking at the president like, read the fucking thing. He

0:49:19.310 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>looks down and he does have the file like on

0:49:22.140 --> 0:49:25.760
<v Speaker 1>his desk. So clearly he gives a different speech. Maybe

0:49:26.219 --> 0:49:26.779
<v Speaker 1>we might find.

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.779
<v Speaker 2>Out he didn't. But there is a little bit of like,

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit of bird song. So the implication

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:36.980
<v Speaker 2>is like, we think it's good at the mansion at least. Right.

0:49:37.020 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 1>So we go back to the crib, the ex-crib. Scott is,

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of course, moping around. This is the craziest group of

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.580
<v Speaker 1>people to be talking about this. It's Scott, Charles, and

0:49:46.660 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Logan in Charles' office talking about Jean.

0:49:49.910 --> 0:49:51.670
<v Speaker 2>I know, like, please, no, we don't want to hear

0:49:51.710 --> 0:49:52.090
<v Speaker 2>about it.

0:49:52.550 --> 0:49:58.629
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Charles is, you know, like, trying to basically make

0:49:58.650 --> 0:50:02.390
<v Speaker 1>him feel better about it. As Scott is leaving, Logan

0:50:02.430 --> 0:50:05.310
<v Speaker 1>comes up and is like, you know, I tried to crack,

0:50:05.370 --> 0:50:07.009
<v Speaker 1>but she wanted you, so it.

0:50:07.010 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Didn't work out. Just so you know, buddy.

0:50:09.020 --> 0:50:09.860
<v Speaker 1>I tried.

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 2>She chose you.

0:50:10.580 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 1>We kissed pretty passionately. It was like full tongue.

0:50:13.660 --> 0:50:15.020
<v Speaker 2>You don't need to know that. You don't need to

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 2>know that.

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:22.900
<v Speaker 1>But she wanted you. But that doesn't, you know, Scott

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:27.850
<v Speaker 1>is heartbroken and all that. But then in his office,

0:50:27.930 --> 0:50:31.010
<v Speaker 1>as the kids are coming in for class, Charles feels something.

0:50:32.150 --> 0:50:34.130
<v Speaker 1>And then one of the kids says, Professor, is everything

0:50:34.170 --> 0:50:35.730
<v Speaker 1>all right? And he kind of gets this little smile

0:50:35.750 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and says, yes, I think it will be. And then

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>we hear Jean's narration about mutation again. As the camera

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 1>travels over Alkali Lake, now fully flooded with the waters

0:50:47.700 --> 0:50:50.210
<v Speaker 1>that the dam was holding back, the ruined dam in

0:50:50.230 --> 0:50:53.310
<v Speaker 1>the background, and as the camera flies over the lake,

0:50:53.370 --> 0:50:57.950
<v Speaker 1>we see under the waters the Phoenix Force flapping its wings.

0:51:01.630 --> 0:51:04.629
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break, come back, and discuss why

0:51:04.710 --> 0:51:09.500
<v Speaker 1>we think This movie could be important to do something.

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 2>And we're back. Rosie.

0:51:10.660 --> 0:51:32.410
<v Speaker 1>Man, this movie is great. It's really funny in retrospect

0:51:32.650 --> 0:51:35.129
<v Speaker 1>how dumb Logan is and how he could have solved

0:51:35.190 --> 0:51:36.790
<v Speaker 1>everything in the first five minutes of the movie.

0:51:36.810 --> 0:51:38.310
<v Speaker 2>But anyway. He's such a little himbo.

0:51:38.790 --> 0:51:40.339
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think, what do you think it is

0:51:40.410 --> 0:51:42.860
<v Speaker 1>about this movie that will feed into it?

0:51:42.860 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think really after watching both of them and

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.580
<v Speaker 2>speaking with you about the first X-Men movie, I think

0:51:49.620 --> 0:51:52.810
<v Speaker 2>that really it's the two together because it's really now

0:51:52.870 --> 0:51:55.210
<v Speaker 2>that we can kind of go ham and theorize. We

0:51:55.230 --> 0:51:57.500
<v Speaker 2>were kind of, playing off just what's in the first movie,

0:51:57.540 --> 0:52:00.580
<v Speaker 2>what was important there. So I think the big ones here, again,

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:05.180
<v Speaker 2>we are back on that theme of the mutant fear,

0:52:05.790 --> 0:52:10.390
<v Speaker 2>the situation of political hatred around mutants, the notion that

0:52:10.410 --> 0:52:12.770
<v Speaker 2>they need to be hated and feared. I think we're

0:52:12.810 --> 0:52:15.250
<v Speaker 2>really back here. We're reminding people of that. And I

0:52:15.310 --> 0:52:18.450
<v Speaker 2>think post Brand New Day, there's definitely going to be

0:52:18.489 --> 0:52:22.219
<v Speaker 2>something about Weaponette. I think we have to understand how

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:26.140
<v Speaker 2>those things are connected, how maybe in different universes Weapon

0:52:26.260 --> 0:52:30.170
<v Speaker 2>X has existed or not existed, how damage control is

0:52:30.230 --> 0:52:32.570
<v Speaker 2>involved in that or not involved in that. So I

0:52:32.610 --> 0:52:34.870
<v Speaker 2>think that those are going to be some really interesting

0:52:35.450 --> 0:52:38.740
<v Speaker 2>kind of bigger swings. I know you've got some fun

0:52:38.820 --> 0:52:41.900
<v Speaker 2>theories on this one. So what are you most excited about?

0:52:42.430 --> 0:52:44.029
<v Speaker 2>to see them kind of go with.

0:52:44.290 --> 0:52:46.490
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I think these X and X2

0:52:46.570 --> 0:52:48.730
<v Speaker 1>are of a piece and their importance is going to

0:52:48.770 --> 0:52:51.350
<v Speaker 1>be of a piece, I think, to Doomsday, if I

0:52:51.390 --> 0:52:55.370
<v Speaker 1>had to guess. I agree with you about Weapon X.

0:52:55.670 --> 0:52:58.270
<v Speaker 1>I think this dovetails very nicely with the stuff that

0:52:58.290 --> 0:53:01.860
<v Speaker 1>we saw in No Way Home. Not No Way Home.

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:06.660
<v Speaker 1>Brand New Day. And I think that it makes me

0:53:06.739 --> 0:53:11.130
<v Speaker 1>wonder if part of what they take and maybe maybe

0:53:11.410 --> 0:53:13.710
<v Speaker 1>in some ways the most important thing is the striker

0:53:14.070 --> 0:53:18.549
<v Speaker 1>anti-mutant ideology right we don't really tap into that especially

0:53:18.610 --> 0:53:26.170
<v Speaker 1>because as you said i it's it's just waiting there

0:53:26.290 --> 0:53:28.870
<v Speaker 1>to grab this kind of dangling thread of how many

0:53:28.930 --> 0:53:34.450
<v Speaker 1>people died when charles literally literally it wasn't for long,

0:53:34.510 --> 0:53:37.069
<v Speaker 1>but it was for long enough. And for you, if

0:53:37.090 --> 0:53:40.230
<v Speaker 1>you go, if you also, again, around how.

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Many people have like, uh, you know, aneurysms in their

0:53:44.180 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 2>head that they don't know about, they have blood clots,

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 2>they have heart problems. People die just from like, you know,

0:53:51.430 --> 0:53:54.259
<v Speaker 2>a trip down the stairs. Like you're telling me that

0:53:54.300 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 2>when they, when he, they got these agonizing mind, you know, migraines,

0:53:58.660 --> 0:54:01.700
<v Speaker 2>psychic migraines, like definitely Jason. I think some people died

0:54:01.739 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 2>in that universe.

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.540
<v Speaker 1>I think, listen, every plane that was in the air

0:54:05.580 --> 0:54:07.180
<v Speaker 1>at the time, very likely crashed.

0:54:07.620 --> 0:54:07.890
<v Speaker 2>True.

0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Every car on the highway likely crashed. that's millions and

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.980
<v Speaker 1>millions of people like people were undergoing surgery like.

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:18.939
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god people were who.

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:22.260
<v Speaker 1>Were already ill babies who were being born like this

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is yeah a lot of people fucking.

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:29.290
<v Speaker 2>Died people working on you know fat in dangerous factories

0:54:29.410 --> 0:54:33.969
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that people swimming doing leisure activities sink in

0:54:34.030 --> 0:54:36.569
<v Speaker 2>a bath you know you might just yeah i think

0:54:36.590 --> 0:54:38.609
<v Speaker 2>you're on to something with that also if we look

0:54:38.650 --> 0:54:40.410
<v Speaker 2>at what we've seen in the trailers so far we

0:54:40.469 --> 0:54:44.790
<v Speaker 2>do see that scene of Charles Xavier's school demolished. So

0:54:44.830 --> 0:54:47.629
<v Speaker 2>there is a version where that was not even done

0:54:47.670 --> 0:54:50.990
<v Speaker 2>by doom that, that, Oh, I mean, Hey, this connects

0:54:51.050 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 2>into something we've been talking about too, which is like,

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 2>could we see that they are from a world where

0:54:56.180 --> 0:54:58.940
<v Speaker 2>like mutants are already being killed. Right. And that's why

0:54:58.980 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 2>they want to go to and warn the Avengers. Like, Hey,

0:55:02.060 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 2>this is going to happen to you. That could very

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:06.610
<v Speaker 2>much come from Charles actions in these movies.

0:55:06.650 --> 0:55:13.170
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I do think that when doom, raises

0:55:13.250 --> 0:55:18.049
<v Speaker 1>the Sentinels, that that's happening on the X-Mansion grounds. It

0:55:18.230 --> 0:55:22.910
<v Speaker 1>really might be that either there was some sort of

0:55:22.910 --> 0:55:29.560
<v Speaker 1>198 comics paradigm where the government stationed Sentinels to guard

0:55:29.620 --> 0:55:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the mansion, or.

0:55:32.510 --> 0:55:35.420
<v Speaker 1>The mansion and the surrounding areas were largely destroyed because

0:55:35.580 --> 0:55:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of like constant Sentinel attacks. And there's just demolished Sentinels

0:55:39.020 --> 0:55:39.379
<v Speaker 1>all around.

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:43.020
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, what about this too? What about if when

0:55:43.180 --> 0:55:47.580
<v Speaker 2>Doom goes there with the Avengers or whoever, he's actually

0:55:47.620 --> 0:55:50.450
<v Speaker 2>showing them what their choices did, that it was them

0:55:50.489 --> 0:55:54.070
<v Speaker 2>who destroyed the X-Men. that by removing the Time Stone

0:55:54.130 --> 0:55:58.110
<v Speaker 2>or doing something different, it was actually those different things,

0:55:58.570 --> 0:56:01.710
<v Speaker 2>the ripple effects of those decisions were so much further.

0:56:01.750 --> 0:56:03.730
<v Speaker 2>And that's why then he would be there and able to,

0:56:03.750 --> 0:56:06.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, drag the Sentinels out of the ground. I

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.799
<v Speaker 2>really do think, I hope that these are not just

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:13.580
<v Speaker 2>like stage setting thematically, because we are really touching on

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:16.300
<v Speaker 2>some stuff that's making me feel a bit more excited

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 2>for Doomsday than I have necessarily been feeling before. when

0:56:19.780 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I think about how it can connect to these older movies,

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:24.800
<v Speaker 2>movies from, I don't know if we've ever, well, I

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:27.919
<v Speaker 2>guess we are living in an era now with, you know,

0:56:27.940 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 2>a franchise like Alien or something, but I don't know

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 2>if we've ever been in an era where a franchise

0:56:33.660 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 2>has consistently gone on almost every year and that we're

0:56:38.739 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 2>now 26 years in to said franchise, thanks to corporate mergers.

0:56:43.219 --> 0:56:43.430
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's pretty crazy to be looking back and going, OK,

0:56:46.739 --> 0:56:49.410
<v Speaker 2>how could this 26 year old movie influence this movie

0:56:49.430 --> 0:56:53.790
<v Speaker 2>coming out next week? But knowing that it absolutely will

0:56:53.930 --> 0:56:56.430
<v Speaker 2>is just a really surreal feeling. Sorry, guys, not next week.

0:56:56.469 --> 0:56:58.330
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's in like three months, but we're counting down.

0:56:58.350 --> 0:56:58.989
<v Speaker 2>We're counting down.

0:56:59.010 --> 0:57:01.359
<v Speaker 1>It's coming quickly. It's coming soon.

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:02.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why it's impending.

0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:06.740
<v Speaker 1>I bought my ticket already. A lot of tickets sold out. Anyway,

0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:11.350
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I. I think that some of the villain

0:57:11.450 --> 0:57:15.540
<v Speaker 1>stuff will have a lot of juice going forward in

0:57:15.580 --> 0:57:18.140
<v Speaker 1>the MCU and could have a lot of juice in Doomsday.

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The Jason Stryker stuff is also like very Legion coded.

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 2>So I was feeling like there's I feel like they

0:57:25.540 --> 0:57:28.180
<v Speaker 2>really want to bring in the scope of mutants in

0:57:28.220 --> 0:57:31.860
<v Speaker 2>this movie. Colossus, Kitty Pryde, the attack on the school,

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Artie in the arms. So I'm also hoping that that

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 2>is going to be something they take on, which is

0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.640
<v Speaker 2>this idea of, hey, there's so many of these. There's

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 2>so many different mutants. There's so many different stories we

0:57:42.100 --> 0:57:44.660
<v Speaker 2>can tell. That's always been what we've loved about the X-Men.

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:47.950
<v Speaker 2>And that's when the mansion starts to really feel lived in.

0:57:48.430 --> 0:57:50.230
<v Speaker 2>We also do get to see the X-Men on the

0:57:50.350 --> 0:57:52.590
<v Speaker 2>run a lot in this. So I also wonder if

0:57:52.650 --> 0:57:54.590
<v Speaker 2>it is that hint that we're not going to get

0:57:55.250 --> 0:57:57.510
<v Speaker 2>the X-Mansion in the way that we know it. Because

0:57:57.530 --> 0:58:00.450
<v Speaker 2>we always have felt like that doesn't really make sense

0:58:00.510 --> 0:58:03.870
<v Speaker 2>right now. We have our Charles, but he's young. We

0:58:03.910 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know what that's going to look like for him.

0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:09.939
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting they didn't include any of the older Days

0:58:09.980 --> 0:58:13.140
<v Speaker 2>of Future Past, First Class, all the stuff that establishes

0:58:13.180 --> 0:58:17.150
<v Speaker 2>the Charles Magneto relationship. So I really do wonder if

0:58:17.210 --> 0:58:19.330
<v Speaker 2>another reason that Weapon X is such a big part

0:58:19.370 --> 0:58:21.010
<v Speaker 2>of this is because it really is going to be

0:58:21.190 --> 0:58:25.470
<v Speaker 2>Sinister and Charles. That's going to be your big villain thing.

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be this notion of mutations. And obviously

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Sinister isn't in this, but the technologies and the connections

0:58:32.660 --> 0:58:35.020
<v Speaker 2>are there. Right. So I do wonder if this is

0:58:35.180 --> 0:58:38.630
<v Speaker 2>also to introduce people to the idea, again, of mutant testing,

0:58:38.670 --> 0:58:42.450
<v Speaker 2>people trying to make something out of the mutants, weaponize them. That,

0:58:42.570 --> 0:58:44.350
<v Speaker 2>I think, is clearly going to be a big part

0:58:44.390 --> 0:58:48.610
<v Speaker 2>of Damage Control's plan, and it's such a heavy point here. Yeah,

0:58:48.630 --> 0:58:49.910
<v Speaker 2>I really, really agree.

0:58:50.070 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>And, yeah, again, we talked about it in our X-Men episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's very notable, the movies that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't include, which is all the other X-Men movies, including

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<v Speaker 1>Days of Future Past... Apocalypse, First Class, et cetera, Logan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even the ones that were like First Class and

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<v Speaker 2>Days of Future Past, huge hits. actually seen as really

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<v Speaker 2>good movies, too. Like, that's not a critical retcon. That is,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, them establishing, hey, are Charles and Eric are

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<v Speaker 2>going to have slightly different backstories, even though they are

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<v Speaker 2>the same Charles and Eric from these two movies. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not reiterating the that kind of origin where they're friends

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<v Speaker 2>and they're together in the 60s and da-da-da-da-da, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're giving a bit of chance for that

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<v Speaker 2>to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>How conscious do you think it is that what Jean

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<v Speaker 1>did is very similar to what Charles did in X2,

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<v Speaker 1>but on obviously a smaller scale?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that it is intentional because I think it's really,

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting. And I also think that it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't really thought about it until you asked me.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we think about, we mentioned it earlier, Logan. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Logan is another movie. They don't include it here,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is another movie where Charles essentially is dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with the fallout of a psychic seizure, they essentially call

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<v Speaker 2>it in that. But I think you could argue that

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<v Speaker 2>it could be this if you wanted it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be so interesting because also, of course, if

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<v Speaker 2>this is the case, then Charles is going to be really,

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<v Speaker 2>really empathetic to Jean. They're going to have that connection.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to see something in a similar way, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's a different version of Charles. So I'm interested to

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<v Speaker 2>see how they tie those things together because our Charles

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<v Speaker 2>is clearly not the Michael Fassbender or James McAvoy early

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<v Speaker 2>versions of these characters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, again, I think that this highly radicalized human race

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<v Speaker 1>that has experienced basically what is like almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>Thanos snap level event, but triggered by mutants is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of Doom's learning experience. Like him saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and again, like if you have power, you can't,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to use it somehow. And whether it's to

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<v Speaker 1>make things right or to, in your mind personally, to

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<v Speaker 1>make things right. or certainly to protect her own because

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<v Speaker 1>look what can happen. And I think he's, I think he's,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possibly that he takes a lot for that. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I really think that overall for the, maybe beyond doomsday

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<v Speaker 1>importing from this movie, the, what would be like extreme

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<v Speaker 1>anti-mutant feeling like, like, like, In this world, they killed millions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that also allows for the X-Men themselves to

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<v Speaker 2>be more radical, which we see in this movie, because

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<v Speaker 2>they are a lot more violent, a lot more direct action.

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<v Speaker 2>They fuck up the people in the camps. They kill people.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Pyro, he does it to the police, so he

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<v Speaker 2>gets kicked out. But it's interesting to see, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've talked a lot on our standard episodes and

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<v Speaker 2>impending doomsday about how we do feel like that new

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<v Speaker 2>radicalized version that more modern spot is probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be what we get and if it's in response to

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<v Speaker 2>a world that hates and fear them it makes so

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<v Speaker 2>much more sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this was super fun in the next episode of

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<v Speaker 1>x-ray vision we are recapping the biggest news of the

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<v Speaker 1>week and stay tuned for next week's impending doomsday captain

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<v Speaker 1>america the first avenger oh that's it for this episode

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