1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: At least. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 3: Man, Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the Matt 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt It is time for the Fantasy Football 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: Focus and it's Wednesday. We'll run around the league here 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: and see what the player news and updates we have 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: from practices today before we start that. The player news 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 3: of the day, Nico Collins, Yeah, I. 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 4: Are sounds like it's probably only the four weeks, but 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 4: it's a hamstring four weeks. That's brutal, no, no doubt 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 4: about it. I definitely think Schultz gets a bump. I 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: think Dell gets a bump. Diggs gets a bump, But 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 4: I don't know what. 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: There's been kind of catching balls all along. 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been fine. I don't know how much difference 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 4: it is for him. They need Dell to step up 19 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: a little bit. He's only been used on a lot 20 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 4: of outbreaking stuff he has been you know, the big, 21 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: big receiver stuff he has not been doing, and over 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: the middle stuff and the deep post things like that. 23 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: I think Houston will be fine. But I mean he's 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: if we were redrafting right now, Nico would be one 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 4: of the first teams taken out. 26 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's you know, it's going to hurt 27 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: your team regardless because you've been counting on them and 28 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: they're still in the same kind of holding pattern With 29 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 3: Joe Mixon. 30 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I say, I don't know what we know about 31 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 4: him either, and still money Yeah, you know, right, so I. 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: Don't know what's going on. I mean this has been 33 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: over a month now with mixing sitting out. Yeah, it's 34 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: a running game. Their running games bad. 35 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: And I've picked up Akers in both the leagues and 36 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: I've used him here and there because you have to. 37 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: But it's not good. You know, he doesn't really create 38 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: on his own. You know, he's just a guy. 39 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: Uh. Devin DuVernay lands on I R today with the 40 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: hamstring issue. He's not been a factor no in Jacksonville. 41 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: But you know, Uh, Sharvarius Ward is questionable for Thursday 42 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: night football. Uh miss it Monday's practice Ifonga's out. 43 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: Warner played at like fifty percent and uncertain if he'll 44 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 4: play in this one in a short week on the road. 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 4: That defense isn't as scary as it looks as usual. 46 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: As I mentioned yesterday too, their slot defense has been 47 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: really bad, real bad. Yeah, so keep that in mind 48 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: with Jackson Smith and Jig. But yes, I think he's 49 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: at that. Definitely somebody should use. Uh Zach Moss with 50 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: a foot injury, did not practice some wins. 51 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't expect him to play for a couple of weeks. 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I understand someone said it was a high 53 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: ankle being reported as a foot. It's one of those 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: ones where he the same thing, happened to mix it, 55 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: got hurt, went off, came back in for like two plays, 56 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: didn't do anything, and then gone. 57 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: Anytime I see foot like that, I immediately think of Liz Frank. 58 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: That's those are bad. 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: Those are bad. 60 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: High ankles bad, Liz Frank's bad. Fire of Chase Brown. Yeah, yeah, 61 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: he'll catch some. I mean Moss has been. It shocked 62 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: me a little bit that Moss has been the primary 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: third and they's been splitting on early carries. I thought 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: Brown would be the third down guy. 65 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: It's mostly protection, yeah, I mean that's a big reason 66 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 3: you worry about that part of it with Burrow then, 67 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: because they're already hurting at right tackle. 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: A little bit so along. 69 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 4: I mean I just happened to hear this today that 70 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 4: Chase Brown is only past blocked twice two snaps this year. 71 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: They haven't thrown with him in the game. 72 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's probably something that bears watching. Mike 73 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: is SICKI with a hamstring sideline to practice Wednesday for them, 74 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: could be time to fire up our guy. 75 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: All all Eric all in all in, Brown's a good receiver. 76 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: Higgins looks like his roles growing, Chase is starting to 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: settle in. They're not hurting on pass catchers. 78 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: No, but they do throw some to the tight end. 79 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I wonder if they go. 80 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: To like a Drew Sample blocker to help the right 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: tackle more too, especially if you can't trust Moss to 82 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: be out there. 83 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, Quinny pay I do like Eric, although yeah, 84 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: could he pay limited practice on Wednesday. That'll be a 85 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: bear watching there. Kenny Moore also, Yeah, so definitely something 86 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: to keep an eye on there for the Colts. Boy 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: A Maffe questionable for Thursday night's game. For the Seattle Seahawks, 88 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: that's their best pass run. That's a really good place 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: put the other guy on ir Yeah. 90 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Wash who's on ir Murphy's still banged 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: up to and short week. It may be nice if 92 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 4: you could rest them and get ten more days, you know. 93 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: Then for that game. 94 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: Really, both these teams are kind of banged on. 95 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that could be a little maybe more high 96 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: scoring game than what people might think. 97 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: I think it is. 98 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: I don't love Seattle's protection, but there's a lot of weapons, 99 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: there's a lot of fits right right, so it'd be interesting. 100 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: To see a good game. 101 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: Darnell Mooney with a knee injury, officially limited in Wednesday's practice. 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: I didn't hear that. So he's a hot waiver wire pickup. 103 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely gotten like Jillian targets the last two weeks. Yeah, 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: really all season long, he's been a consistent target share. 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: I didn't know there's anything wrong with them. I don't 106 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: if that just popped up or if it's just yeah, 107 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 4: limiting taking it easy. 108 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: On them earlier in the week. 109 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: Could be, could be, but definitely bears watching. Yeah, as 110 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: you mentioned, Bira Murphy has been ruled out for Week six. 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: Evan Ingram with a hamstring limited still limited a practice 112 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: on Wednesday for the Jackson else Forever. 113 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, they could use them there overseas in early game. Interestingly, 114 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 4: they're the away team in London, you know, they're always 115 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 4: the home team in Yeah, you know, so. 116 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 3: They they stayed over there. They went last year twice 117 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: they stayed there and just stayed and. 118 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: One was home was away. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. 119 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: Darnell Savage with a quad was limited Wednesday. Tank Bigsby 120 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: with the shoulder injury off the injured report, but Travis 121 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: at Travis ATM was limited Wednesday. 122 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: I think big Bees. Big Bees is the one. Like, 123 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: if you ask me who if I had to start 124 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 4: one of the two, it would be Tank. 125 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: I mean they're really trending that way. He's bigger and 127 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: he's just looks better right now. 128 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: Gabe Davis, Yeah, Gabe Davis with a knee was limited 129 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: on Wednesday for the Jaguars. 130 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: Doesn't change much, but yeah, you know, Thomas is much 131 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: better than him. 132 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: Uh. Noah Brown with a groin was limited Wednesday with 133 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: the Commanders. Now okay, as was. Zach Ertz was rested 134 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: mispractice on Wednesday. 135 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Arrested. 136 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah no, he's eighty seven years old. 137 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah right, they both are factors. 138 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Austin Ekelar was limited at practice on Wednesday with 139 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: the heel injury. Brian Robinson, with a knee, did not 140 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: practice Wednesday. Okay, keep an eye on McLaughlin not McLachlan 141 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: mixed something McNichols, McNichols, Christy McNichols. Yes, exactly, Yes, we 142 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: talked about that. I think he's both their handcuffs. Yes, 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 3: So if one of those two guys that don't go 144 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: now they play the Ravens this week. Tough running back 145 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: match up. 146 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 147 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 148 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: Michael Pittman is dealing with a back issue. Clear if 149 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: he is at risk for missing Sunday's game at this point, 150 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: that's a factor. Anthony Richardson was still limited with that 151 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: oblique injury. If Flacco's in there. 152 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: I bet they don't rush Richardson back. Yeah, you're too important. 153 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: But what if Pittman's out and Flacco's in downs might 154 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: catch a million ball? 155 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: He might, Yeah, he might just get peppered. Braden Smith, 156 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: with knee and ankle issues, was absent from Wednesday's practice 157 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: for the Colts, but Ryan Kelly, the center, was practiced 158 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: in full. He hurt his knee and his ankle holding 159 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: t J Watt the entire game in Indianapolis. 160 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: Nice. 161 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: Trey Sermon a non participant Wednesday for them with a 162 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: collar bone issue. 163 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: We thinking Taylor's probably back up. 164 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: He didn't practice today either. 165 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: Their goodson's there, third guy. 166 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's no matters. 167 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. 168 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: Uh Josh Downs with a toe issue mispractice Wednesday. 169 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I did see he was he popped up. 170 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: Toes are tricky, especially for receivers, especially for a slot receiver. 171 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: Who who is the left right? Yeah, that's interesting. Uh, 172 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors with the concussion still not practicing tomorrow will 173 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: be two weeks. 174 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: That always worries me. On it's more than a week. Yeah, 175 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, didn't he And it was on 176 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: a Thursday. 177 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: Night, Thursday night game on the last play, like the 178 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: last play he was in there was a fourth down 179 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: play and he dove for the ball and kind of 180 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: concussed himself on the play and hasn't practiced. If he's 181 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: not in again, yeah, if he doesn't play, slate and 182 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: fire him up, Yeah, yeah, he matters. Brian Burns for 183 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: them with a groin injury limited on Wednesday, as was 184 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: a Dorri Jackson and Devin Singletary officially limited. 185 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: I think that was good news on Singletary. 186 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, when I heard that was trending in the first 187 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: time back on the practice field for a while. 188 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Tracy's gonna have a role though, No, 189 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: I think so too. Yeah. We mentioned Michael Mayer in 190 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: the previous segment, the you know, the other talented tight 191 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: end that the Raiders have. He's been away from the 192 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: team with a personal issue. 193 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 4: He had an injury before, right, yeah, and now he's 194 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 4: got that. Doesn't look good for him to play against 195 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: the Steelers. 196 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: Right yeah, it's it's it's important to them. Interesting. 197 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 198 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 3: No. Miles Garrett at practice on Wednesday for the Cleveland Browns. 199 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: You could argue he was much like in the game. 200 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: I can't be if you look at his Pro Football 201 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: Focus grades from that game, they were fine, fine, didn't 202 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: make one play, No tackles, no sacks, no quarterback hits. 203 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: That defense to me, I don't know what to do 204 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: with just in fantasy, like, are they going to step 205 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: up for the team and live up to their potential 206 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: or are they going to look at Sean Watson be like, eh, 207 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: I think that that team is going right down the point. 208 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: When the coach, when the head coach is continually asked 209 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: questions about the underperforming quarterback. Yeah, and he says, no, 210 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: we're sticking with DeShawn. Deshawn's our guy. We're still like 211 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: the defense has to be going. Wait a second here, Yeah, 212 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: we've seen the other guy. That's why they got rid 213 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: of Flacco. Yeah, absolutely, because they didn't want the locker 214 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: room going. Well, we were better with Joe because they 215 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: were because they were. 216 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the more and more I've heard about this situation, 217 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: Watson's not even like putting the work in, you know. 218 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 4: I mean I'm not in the building. I'm sure he's 219 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: doing something, but you know, protection stuff and all the 220 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: little things like I'm. 221 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: Not really worried about it. I got sixty four guaranteed, 222 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: you know. 223 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: The protection stuff that there is no protection. No, their 224 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: offensive line is still a mess, and said, you. 225 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: See, Nick Chubb could be coming back though he was 226 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 4: on the practice field today. 227 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: He's been practicing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they opened his window 228 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: last week. 229 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: They asked the fancy about and he said something like 230 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: crazier things have happened that. 231 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: He could play. 232 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 4: He's not playing, No, but would you pick him up 233 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: if nobody drafted? 234 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: Probably get drafted, I'm sure he's back this early, we're 235 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: still I mean we're six weeks in. They got a 236 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: buy coming up in a couple of weeks. I think 237 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: he comes back after the buye. 238 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: But the offense is so bad I'm not even sure 239 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: how fancy. 240 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: At this point? You know, again, how safe is the 241 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: fan ski with it within his job? That's the thing. 242 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: They're paying Chubb nothing this year. 243 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: No I know, which speaks volume. 244 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't know what he's got. And I 245 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know what they want to put 246 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 3: him out there behind that offensive line. 247 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: If it's if they're one and seven when he's ready, 248 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: then why bother? You know what I mean? But I 249 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what to do with him. 250 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: I can't. 251 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: I can't imagine he plays this week. 252 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't imagine this week. 253 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: A j Brown with the hamstring practicing Wednesday, So like. 254 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 4: Kim Smith and Lane Johnson should all be back and 255 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: they get the Brownies. 256 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: Actually, DeVante Smith with a concussion, was practicing. David and 257 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 3: Joku however, not on the field today for the Browns. 258 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: Wow, can you use him or Cooper or anybody's they're. 259 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: Their best passing options right now? Are the running backs? 260 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they throw the ball. 261 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: Jerome ford Is can't run anywhere, but they just dump 262 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: it off to him. It might be six catches for 263 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: seventeen yards, but he gets you something. 264 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 4: In BA right right. No, that's a good point. That's 265 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: the only thing that's kind of working. 266 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's just Watson's running for his life. He 267 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: can't complete passes down the field, and he can't see. 268 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: He doesn't see anything, you know, he's not seeing stuff. 269 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: His accuracy is really poor. 270 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: Everything's bad. Uh. Damian Pierce with a hamstring injury, expected 271 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: to play in Week six. 272 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: You think I assume he bumps Acres. 273 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 4: I would think. So Acres has done nothing zero. He's 274 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 4: averaging like two yards of carriers. Yeah, right, so maybe 275 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: that's a little boost for them. 276 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson, with an ankle, was limited again on Wednesday 277 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: at practice. That's been the case for him the last 278 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. He's played and been fine, been fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 279 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: So don't worry about that one. Xavier Lagetz dealing with 280 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: a shoulder issue for the Carolina Panthers. He practiced him 281 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: full today. 282 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 4: Okay, I thought he left that game and didn't return. 283 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean anything. 284 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, be bad. 285 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: Christian Watson with the ankle injury return to practice Wednesday. 286 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 3: Are you trusting Christian Watson at this point? 287 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: I don't really. I think Dobbs is back too. I 288 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: think that everybody's men defenses or whatever. I still think 289 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: Wicks is the second guy to own. 290 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: Definitely reads the number reads the number one reads a borderline. 291 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: He's a high end two right now in fantasy for yeah. 292 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: Yah, yeah, yeah, he's a really good prospect, right Yeah, 293 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 4: he's running away from the pack. 294 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: Uh, let's see anything. Denzel Ward also not practicing Wednesday 295 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: for the He's dealing with a hamstring injury. Yeah, they 296 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: got issues. Deontay Foreman also did not practice. 297 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: I mean guys like Ward that have been around the block, 298 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: if they're questionable, Am I really going out there right now? 299 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, I think that's the 300 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: attitude that sweeping that building. 301 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not known for being in it to win it. 302 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: Just because Watson's If you're not going to put the 303 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: best guy out there, why should I go out there? 304 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: Well, I mean when the franchise loses so many again, 305 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: this is why I'd always argue when people were talking about, 306 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: you know when Roethlisberger retired, Steelers just need to blow 307 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: it up, trade TJ Want, trade Cam Hayward, get rid 308 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: of all these guys because you're not winning anything. Blow 309 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: it up and start over. The problem with blowing things 310 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: up and starting over is there's no guarantee you get 311 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: back to right right, you know that level or even 312 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: the look at the giants feeling in the room, and 313 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: you have to have some adults in the room, as 314 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: Bob was saying to kind of, you know, teach the 315 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: young guys how you know, here's here's how we do things. 316 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: Cam Hayward, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, if you're trading Cam Hayward 317 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: for a fourth round pick a couple of years ago 318 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: to blow it up, does you know what you mean? 319 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: Now? 320 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right? 321 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: Does you know? 322 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,119 Speaker 1: Good? 323 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: So I Deontay Foreman doesn't play this weekend for Cleveland. 324 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: Ford's okay, right, Yeah, you know he's gonna catch passes. 325 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: If he gets seventy eighty percent of the snaps, there's 326 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: no one else in town you could do worse on 327 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: Bie weeks and stuff. 328 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: Ramandre Stevenson not spotted a practice on Wednesday, he's got 329 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: to deal with a calf issue. 330 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, Gibson, I guess it's sort of useful. It's 331 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 4: not a good offense, but it's not No, how. 332 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: About this one, James Cook foot and toe issues, not 333 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: practicing Wednesday. 334 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: I guess Ray Davis would be the two. 335 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of different usage, a lot of 336 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: different usage. 337 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not going. 338 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: To catch the balls. No, ken Kaid's been so disappointing. 339 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: I mean I would think like Kencaid might get. 340 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: Three more targets of Cooks on that would be the 341 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: one who probably benefits the most, Like, yeah, Davis might, 342 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: Davis might get ten carries. Yeah yeah, and they'll just 343 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: run Josh allenmore. 344 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: Probably right and then and then what's his face? Ty 345 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: Johnson can catch passes, right, Yeah, so there's more of 346 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: a split, just gets messy. Yeah yeah, now it's just yeah, 347 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: a mess DeAndre Hopkins got a rest day today, as 348 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: did Lugerious Snead, as did Jeffery Simmons. Will Levis with 349 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: a shoulder injury limited Wednesday. 350 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: Okay, they're coming off a bye, coming off of by. 351 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: We have to see some Mason Rudolph this week. If 352 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: you're a Hopkins owner rather Annapolis someone like Hopkins are Ridley. 353 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: Why do you see with three now? If Mason's yeah, 354 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: I think they'll throw the football. 355 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I'm gonna jump on like the Chiga 356 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: or anything and get that crazy. 357 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: But Hopkins a Ridley, Okay. 358 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah you have. If Mason's in there, what the heck? 359 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: You could do worse, especially with buyes. 360 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 5: Uh. 361 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: That's really about it. In terms of the big injury 362 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: news for the for the week here, yeah, that's about it. 363 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean Collin's on injury reserves, huge, massive. 364 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: I mean guys guys like to I need to start 365 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: coming back, trying to get some guys coming back though, 366 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: I mean so yeah, I mean fantasy stuff right now, 367 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: there's a lot of injuries. 368 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: And underperforming guys too. Like if you look at the 369 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: guys who were drafted in the first round, lot of missies, 370 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: a lot of missus or injuries or. 371 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: Just not live it up to it, even BJ and 372 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: bris all and you know, right, yeah, I'm trying to 373 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: think Iyreek Hill, go on down the list of guys. 374 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: McCaffrey. 375 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, of guys who were first round picks, it just 376 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 3: didn't aren't aren't performing right now. 377 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 4: I'm kind of buying low on the Dolphins, thinking to 378 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 4: it will probably come back at some point because they're 379 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: dirt cheap right now. 380 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know how much if he comes back, 381 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: as you know, I don't know, I mean, does he 382 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 3: last long? Does he that hit was not and then 383 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: the weather hit? Yeah, and all of a sudden, you 384 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: know that the all the. 385 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: Problems that happened when he's healthier still there, right. 386 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that to me the one to buy low 387 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: or Bijeon and uh. 388 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: Embris and Brice I could see that. I can't imagine 389 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: both them being bottled up the rest of the year. 390 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: No. 391 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 4: I know they'd like the backups and that's great, But tho, 392 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: these guys are ball. You know, that's the key there 393 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: is all the receptions. 394 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why you drafted those guys. You're going to 395 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: get three hundred touches. Well, neither one of them right 396 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: now is on pace for three hundred anything close to three. 397 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Undrew they haven't even had big games really. 398 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so those would be the two guys that would 399 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: buy low on that. It would you know, if you 400 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: knew Tua was coming back two weeks from now. Yeah, 401 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: I try to make a play for Tyreek Hill, but 402 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: you got to eat him four more weeks, you know. 403 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, trying to think of other angles like that, Like 404 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 4: I'm not buying low on Browns. You know, some of 405 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: these teams are bottomed out. I'm not buying low on 406 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: butt like a Christian Kirk or somebody like that, that's 407 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 4: you can get cheap or I don't know. 408 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, I mean, I've got Kirk. He got cut 409 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: in our league, picked him up a couple of weeks ago. 410 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: He's had double digit points in each of the last 411 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: two weeks, So they. 412 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 4: Might be a little better than they do where to 413 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: start the season. Yeah, you know, they were horrible, awful. 414 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: Let's get to a break. Key is the Matt Williamson. 415 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: I am Dale. You're listening to the Drive here on 416 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back with 417 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: more right after this. 418 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: At least. 419 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 420 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 421 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 422 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli and he is 423 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and Matt Today on ESPN Every Wednesday, 424 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: The Jeremy Fowler and Dan Graziano put out there what 425 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: we're hearing around the big stuff, and one of the 426 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: questions was today which quarterback has the best chance to 427 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: be traded before the November fifth deadline. Okay, so Jeremy 428 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: Fowler mentions first Zach Wilson or Jared Stidham out of Denver. Okay, 429 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: that is right. Then he says that he could also 430 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: you know, Bryce Young may somebody maybe makes a play 431 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: for that. But then he says, Russell Wilson's situation in 432 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: Pitts could crystallize this week if the Steelers opt to 433 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: play him now that he is returning closer to full health. 434 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 3: I don't think there's gonna be any crystallization this. 435 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: Week, Okay. 436 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I assume what he's saying is if they 437 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: just put Wilson in as a starter and go from here, 438 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 4: that would be crystalization. That would be crystallization. 439 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 3: If they don't, that's not crystallization, because again, he just 440 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 3: started practicing in full on when today today was the 441 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: first time he's practiced in full in over a month in. 442 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 4: A long time. And the other guy's good. I mean, 443 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 4: that's just different than some of these other situations where 444 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's not like the Tuas situation where 445 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 4: the drop off is just astronomical to a guy that 446 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: shouldn't be out there, you know what I mean. 447 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: So then it goes to Graziano because they go back 448 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: and forth with this thing, and Graziano says, I'm curious 449 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: about the last passer you mentioned, which was Wilson. I 450 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: was in Pittsburgh for Sunday's game against Dallas and talking 451 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: to people there. I definitely did not get the sense 452 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: that Justin Fields was on thin ice with that coaching 453 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: staff was looking for a reason to turn it over 454 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: to Wilson. I don't know who he's talking to. He 455 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: might not be talking to. 456 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: The Fields on thin ice period. They're happy, No, they're. 457 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: Happy with Fields. But as Bob said in our previous hour, 458 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson was brought here for a reason, Yeah, right, right, 459 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: be the Steelers starting quarterback. Quarter He has done nothing 460 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: in the time that he has been here to say 461 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: that he shouldn't be the starting quarterback. Again. I'm happy 462 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: with how Justin Fields has played, for sure. It doesn't 463 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 3: mean he's played badly, But you brought Wilson here to 464 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: be the adult in the room on your offense. 465 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I do think the leadership on field has 466 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 4: a lot or experience. Leadership whatever is definitely lacking on 467 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: that side of the ball, and has been for a 468 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 4: couple of years. And I think he provides that. I 469 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 4: think he provides better red zone passing. I think he 470 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 4: provides better deep passing, more intricacies and above the next stuff. 471 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: The ball comes out quicker, ball comes out quicker. 472 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: I think Fields is about six in time to throw 473 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: six most Now Field has done good stuff too. 474 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. This is not trashing justin Fields at all. 475 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: Contrary to popular belief in today's world. You can if 476 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: you like one, doesn't mean to hate the other, right, 477 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: you know, I mean I could I could roll with 478 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: either one and be very very content. And I think 479 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 4: you could beat the Raiders with either guy. But I 480 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 4: also would like to see Wilson too. 481 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: The interesting thing that he says here is at least 482 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: Fields offers running ability or well he first he says, 483 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how Wilson improves anything here unless there's 484 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: a sudden suddenly the running backs and the offensive line 485 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: are healthy and they bring in two new wide receivers. 486 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: What are you talking about. 487 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: Does that just mean they should just punt the season? 488 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: Apparently? Yeah, apparently, according to Dan Graziano, NFL expert who 489 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: was here for a day, that's what they should do. 490 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: At least Fields offers some running ability. Here's the thing, Dan, 491 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: they haven't been running them all that much. 492 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 4: They have been them all that much. No, And I 493 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 4: think that's still untapped potential there with Fields as a runner, 494 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 4: and that he was I won't say better at it, 495 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: but more effective, you know, earlier in his career. But 496 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 4: I also think that they don't want to get to 497 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 4: Allen either, you know, and having him take a big 498 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: hit or a shot the head or something along those lines. 499 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 4: And he is a very good runner, but that's not 500 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: enough to win the tie. To me, it's really it's 501 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: in the positive call. 502 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 503 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 3: Obviously, as I mentioned before and again I am as 504 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 3: big a justin Fields fans, as you'll see I was 505 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: going into the draft. I remain very much thinking that 506 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: he could be a long term guy here. But they 507 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: want to run play action. Yeah, they want to throw 508 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 3: the ball a play action and throw the ball down 509 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: the field. That's Russell Wilson's game. 510 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 4: That's exactly what Wilson does too. And Wilson can still 511 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: do the boots and design movement and all that stuff too. Like, 512 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 4: I find it interesting that people all of a sudden 513 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: think he's a bad athlete. 514 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know where this is coming from. He 515 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: got a rush for over three hundred yards last year. 516 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 3: He is not you know, thirty six year old Ben 517 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: Roethlisberger back there who couldn't get out of his own way. 518 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 4: No, assuming he's healthy and similar to what we saw 519 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: like in camp or in Denver, he's still a plus 520 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: athlete for the position. 521 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: Well then, he says. Graziano says, the coaches and the 522 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: players I've talked to there had nothing but positive things 523 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: to say about fields, No kidding, no doubt. Really that's 524 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: what I said, positive things about their teammate. 525 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: Shocked. 526 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: Color me shocked. 527 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 4: And there are a lot because there are a lot 528 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: of positive things. I mean, it sounds like he's smart, 529 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 4: hard working, you know, doing everything he can one and 530 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: four right, right, you know, he's got the reason that 531 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: they lost the last two games. 532 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: No, nobody's saying that, but you know, I think that 533 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: there's some things that Russell Wilson can do that justin fields, 534 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 3: doesn't do at this point in his career. 535 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: I think so. 536 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: And part of it's just I want to see it 537 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 4: look different because I think it would look different with 538 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: him in there. 539 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 3: As I mentioned a veteran quarterback act knows, you got 540 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: to involve everybody early in the game, and they make 541 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: sure this guy gets a touch that guy, even if 542 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: it's I'm giving you, I'm looking at you. You go 543 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: to the bench, Hey, I missed you on that and 544 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: I saw you there, George. Yeah, we'll get it the 545 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: next time or something, you know, just the little things 546 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: like that. He ends this thing. It's also worth remembering well. 547 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: He says, I'm sticking with my prediction that Wilson never 548 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: plays for the Steelers unless Field gets Fields gets hurt. 549 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Okay, he could play this weekend. 550 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: He could. That's a fine prediction. I mean, it's his prediction. 551 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 3: That's good for him. But he said it's also possible 552 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: this ends with Wilson getting released, not traded. 553 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: Now is where he. 554 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: Gets the tracks right, What the what purpose does that 555 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: serve the Steelers to release him. 556 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: I have no idea. 557 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: If they fall in love with Fields and they think 558 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: they have a special player there, and somebody offered you 559 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: a draft pick for Wilson, I would listen. You know, 560 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: cutting him, cutting him would be no, no, first of all. 561 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm sure he's looking at this and going, well, 562 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: you know. 563 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 3: The Steelers have cut other players who have forced their 564 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: They've had other guys who forced their way out of Pittsburgh. 565 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: There's no indications of that at all. 566 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: I don't see Russell Wilson at this point in his 567 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: career when all that he talked about in the preseason 568 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: when he was signed here, how he wanted to to 569 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: regain his legacy and recapture his legacy. What kind of 570 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: legacy does it build for you to force your way 571 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: out of Pittsburgh by being a bad teammate or whatever. 572 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: And I've seen nothing of him being a bad teammate. No, 573 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: quite the opposite, Quite the opposite. He's a team captain. Yeah, 574 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: they made him a team captain for a reason. There's 575 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: there's no reason for him to force his way out 576 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: because then what that's what I say. 577 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 4: Let's say he really wants out, where's he going to 578 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 4: land that he's going to all of a sudden step 579 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 4: right into the lineup, be fine, and you know, make 580 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 4: his legacy even better, you know, if they trade him 581 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 4: to Miami today, so it didn't take them two or 582 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: three weeks to get to where he needs to be, 583 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 4: you know, like. 584 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't. The releasing part is the craziest of it. 585 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 3: It's the craziest of it all. Why would they release? 586 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: What does that game? It's not a big capit. 587 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 3: As much as I like justin fields, he has an 588 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: injury history. He's missed games in his career because he 589 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: does take hits of course, of course, and back up 590 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are more valuable than ever, right, and backup quarterbacks. 591 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: If you've watched any football games this year when they've 592 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: had to play, it's not been pretty for a lot 593 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 3: of them. That's one of the great things about what 594 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: the Steelers situation is here You've got two viable starters 595 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: and it's not like they have a second or third 596 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: round draft pick waiting there that you want to see 597 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 3: more of or any of. 598 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 4: That stuff or the season shot. And Wilson's a roadblock 599 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 4: for the young guy, you know, like, that's. 600 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: Not the case at all, And they're a three quarterback 601 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: team and who else you bring it in? 602 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Wilson might be the starter Week one, next year 603 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 4: could be. I mean, they don't know that answer yet, 604 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 4: right right to get some answers. 605 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I just thought that was. 606 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: Clickbaity. 607 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 4: I mean I could see if you're not super close 608 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 4: to the team, who are some backups of value that 609 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: I would kick the tires on in trade if I 610 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 4: desperately needed one. That doesn't mean Sties gonna move them. No, 611 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: you're right, they're trying to win this year and they're 612 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: definitely not going to release them. 613 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: They're not. 614 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: They're not in an imminute. Well, we got to just 615 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: get rid of whatever we can sell all the pieces 616 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: off that we can and just let's get draft picks. 617 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: It's not where they're. 618 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: At at at all, or release them because he's a 619 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 4: problem child. 620 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just don't I don't think people understand 621 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: the relationship that Fields and Wilson had prior to their 622 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: both joining the Steelers. When when Fields was in college, 623 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: he was reaching out to Russell Wilson because that's who 624 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: he modeled his game after that. They were friendly before 625 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: they joined the Steelers. They have talked for years. He 626 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: was he's been happen to get here together, right, Yeah, Yeah, 627 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: he's been a mentor. That's why Fields was really happy 628 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: to come here. I get to play, I get to 629 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: learn under. 630 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson presumably is the two. 631 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he knew that coming in. 632 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and as good as he's played, which is he 633 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: has played well, I mean, but he hasn't been lights 634 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: out or without mistakes or you know, can't possibly imagine 635 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: taking him out of the lineup. 636 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: They're still scoring eighteen points a game, that's the bottom line. 637 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: And they're not throwing touchdowns or scoring touchdowns, you know, 638 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: back to touchdown passes, batter I haven't seen a lot 639 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: of those. 640 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: You know. 641 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: Again, I like him, and it amazes me how much 642 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 4: Steeler Nation thinks that he's walks on water. I mean, 643 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: there was some Kenny Pickett stuff like that too. Like 644 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: I know, it's excitement because he might end up being great, 645 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: and I hope he. 646 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't more than anybody. 647 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: But I don't know that he gives you the best 648 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 4: chance to win today of your two options. 649 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either, And again I just what 650 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: I knew, do know, is that Russell Wilson was brought 651 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: here to be the starter. That's what I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 652 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: I know, like Tomlin named him the starter at the 653 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: end of training camp. That's what I know. 654 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: And he hasn't done anything that negative since then. 655 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: He hasn't done anything negative since then, and I know 656 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: that again Fields has done good things. Is it is there? 657 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: You know? 658 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: Is there a question? Well, should they go with Fields? Yes, 659 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: there's a question. 660 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: There's a question, right, there's a good debate to have. Yeah, 661 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: that's again, that's I see both sides. 662 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: But doesn't mean they're about to release Russell Russell Wilson 663 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: or trade him. No. 664 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: I would be blown away, especially the release. Yeah, you 665 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: get nothing back for him, right, And if someone blew 666 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: your doors off, I won't consider it. 667 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: And I don't even know what blowing your doors off 668 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: would be because I just don't know what you would 669 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: get if Okay, he's part of a package for DeVante Adams, 670 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: I understand, all right, Yeah, I understand, right, But yeah, 671 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: other than that, and if you're a team trading for him, 672 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: you haven't seen any recent tape on the guy, right, 673 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 3: and his calf might not be one hundred percent. It's 674 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: the problem, right, right, It's hard to trade for injury dudes. Yeah, 675 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: I just sometimes I just wonder, you know, if things 676 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: like this get we got to fill some space this week, 677 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: let's just write there. We'll talk about the Steelers quarterback 678 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: situation again because well, Steeler fans get you know, wound 679 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: up about it. Yeah, and then you know, you and 680 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: I guys who are in our business and get asked 681 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: about it. 682 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: See that's what I was thinking. Like, guys in our 683 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 4: business in other cities are like, we could send a 684 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 4: six round pick for the Steelers and get Wilson. 685 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: He's about to get cut. No, that's not true. 686 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: I mean the athletic last week, you know, receivers who 687 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: could be had at the trade deadline, and they George 688 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: Pickens on the list. 689 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, come on right, I mean if Pickens was getting 690 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 4: flopped for Adams in some way, shape or form, that 691 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: still doesn't even solve it. 692 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: You guys still need another one. 693 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, maybe there's stuff 694 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: going on behind the scenes with Pickens, and there's certainly 695 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: probably some immaturity. Doesn't mean you got ship him out 696 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: for nothing. 697 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they's just and sometimes like I have a friend 698 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 3: that I golf with all the time, and he'll he 699 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: must just scour the internet constantly for Steeler rumors and 700 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: things like that because every time. Every We'll get ready 701 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: to tee off. He is, did you hear about this? 702 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, what now? And you tell me, I'm like, 703 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: where did you read that? 704 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: At? Yeah? 705 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: And the one the one day it was after the 706 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: Falcons game, Steeler fans already regretted, Steelers already regretting the 707 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: hiring of Arthur Smith as offensive coordinator. And he tells 708 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: me about this. I'm like, who's saying this, who's reporting this? 709 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 3: And I look and it's it's a Falcons blogger, okay, 710 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: who They scored eighteen points against the against the Falcons. 711 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: They won the game, but this Falcons blogger because he 712 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: hates Arthur Smith for whatever, you know. You know, well, 713 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: the Steelers, Steeler fans are now seeing what we saw. 714 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: You know. It's just it's it's inane stuff that's put 715 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 3: out there by by somebody's most of the time Graziano, 716 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: But most of the time it's somebody sitting in their basement, 717 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: either regurgitating something that somebody else wrote and then piggybacking 718 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: off of that. 719 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or the random idea I'm. 720 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: Gonna throw some stuff against the wall and then somebody 721 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: picks up on it and the next thing. You know, 722 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: it's a hot rumor. That's not a rumor. 723 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: No, that's not a rumor. 724 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 4: And and Fowler I'm sure has Stuler connections, and he's 725 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 4: a good dude, and I like Jeremy, And he's not 726 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: the one. 727 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: That said he could get released. 728 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 729 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: I don't know Dan at all, but I think he's 730 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 4: good at his job. But that makes no sense to. 731 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: Me, no matter what. 732 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: No, I just don't see that happening at a logical 733 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: move for the team. There's a much better chance that 734 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson starts in two weeks. Yeah, then there is 735 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: him being released. 736 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's definitely true. Not close. 737 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: I would if I had they said, Okay, your next 738 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: month's mortgage payment is going on one or the other. 739 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with starting next week. 740 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: And it would pay one, you know, one tenth of 741 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 4: what you bet you know, right, I mean, that's an 742 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 4: easy one. 743 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying I don't even know that that's 744 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: the case. I'm just saying that one's much more likely 745 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: to happen than him being then cut. 746 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems crazy. 747 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyways, let's get to a break. He is the 748 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive 749 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 3: here on the Steelers Audio Network when we come back. 750 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 3: I had a chance to sit down with well of 751 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 3: one of the defensive heroes of Yeah, last Sunday's game. 752 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: There were many, but this one was and uh, we'll 753 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: see what he heard, what he had to say when 754 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 3: we come back right after this. 755 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: At least he is the Drive with Dale lolly and 756 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of 757 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 2: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 758 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 3: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli and he is the Matt 759 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt. One of the kind of the un 760 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: song heroes in last week's game for the Steelers was 761 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: a defensive lineman, Isaiah Loudermilk. Big blockfield goal there that 762 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: kept the game within huge play and one of the 763 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: three stops of Steelers had in the first half of 764 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: that game in the red zone. And he also was 765 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: asked to play him outside linebacker late that game. 766 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: It's not ideal, but he to choice. 767 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was able to do it. I mean, he's 768 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: he's a bigger body guy, but he's you know, he's 769 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: tall and long. But as Mike Tomlins said earlier in 770 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: the week, like we use him on special teams like 771 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: covering kicks and stuff like that because he's an athletic guy. 772 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 773 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 4: I mean they traded up for him a couple of 774 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 4: years ago as a project and he hasn't quite fulfilled that, 775 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: you know. But well he was a fifth right, right, 776 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 4: and he stuck around. You think we'll see him lined 777 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 4: up on the edge in this game. There's some potential 778 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 4: for that, you know. I think that's a play number one. 779 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always that potential there because there's a lot 780 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 3: of unknown there right now. 781 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: From Steelers and at least he's done it. Yeah. 782 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 3: So I had an opportunity to it down with him 783 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: earlier today and we chatted about the block kick and 784 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: all this stuff in his relationship with Cam Hayward and 785 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 3: how he watches Hayward's getting back to what we talked 786 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: about earlier show about guys who you. 787 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: Know, get another Wisconsin dude on that defense. Yeah. 788 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely. So let's hear what Isaiah Louder Milk Isaiah with 789 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: two hes had to say. So, did you know you 790 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: had the block the other night? 791 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I felt it this time, but I mean 792 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 5: just slightly I felt it a little bit, but I 793 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 5: had assumed I got it, so start celebrating. 794 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 3: Was that something you got saw on tape or was 795 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: that just something that was just kind of happening. 796 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 5: Something that kind of happens. I mean, go after every showball, right, 797 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 5: never get every football. But no, it was just we 798 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 5: go after it every time, and that time it just 799 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 5: happened to go back where my hand was so lucky 800 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 5: for that. Yeah. 801 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. In terms of what you did during the gaming, 802 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: you actually had to bump outside and through some outside 803 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 3: linebacker stuff. 804 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 5: Is that for me? 805 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 3: I mean, really, you're in a four man package, Is 806 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: that it's not that big of a stress for you. 807 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: No? 808 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 5: No, because I mean we're in five techs quite a bit. Yeah, 809 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 5: and uh, being out this similar to that, especially on 810 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 5: passing downs. I mean the only thing really different is 811 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 5: chips happy to get chipped out there by expecting TJ 812 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 5: to be out there. But I mean that's really the biggest, 813 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 5: biggest thing. Maybe a little bit more space, but it's 814 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 5: it's the same as when winning a five tech. Yeah, really, 815 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 5: when they starts getting different is dropping and stuff like that. 816 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 5: But I didn't have to do any of that. So 817 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 5: good on practicing your drops this week. Uh no, no, 818 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 5: we'll see how We'll see how the week goes. Yeah. 819 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: With with one of the biggest things, it seems like 820 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 3: it's expected out of the edge guys, when you're out 821 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: there that it is to shut the edge. Is that 822 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 3: different than than playing an inside you know, when you're 823 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 3: in DT. 824 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 5: Uh, not a whole lot. I mean, because on the inside, 825 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 5: say where that free tech, we're trying to set the 826 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 5: edge from the Yeah. So it's just I mean it's 827 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 5: it's very similar. Same hand usage or shedding blocks is 828 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 5: the same thing. Might just be a little bit more space, 829 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 5: but really it's no different than if I was in 830 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 5: the three. I'm trying to set that edge from there too, 831 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 5: So really not not like a big drastic difference. 832 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: One of the things that Tha always kind of lodge 833 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 3: you about is that you're always. 834 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: A silence so much. 835 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: Is that something that the layman would understand in terms of, 836 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 3: you know, if you're doing your job, that means everybody 837 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 3: else around it around you can do their job. 838 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's been a big part well 839 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 5: my game since college. Very like to be fundamentally sent 840 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 5: out and use my hands. I feel like that's where 841 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 5: my advantage is being a taller guy. It's being fundamental 842 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 5: and using my hands. And I mean that translates all 843 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 5: along the line because if you can if you can 844 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 5: do that and then you trust the person next to 845 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 5: you is doing the same thing, playing fundamental, then you know, 846 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 5: all those clothes, all those holes will close up nowhere 847 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 5: to run a little different pass rush just cause you've 848 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 5: really got to put a move on. But in terms 849 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 5: of the run, you know, just playing with fundamentals, I mean, 850 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 5: regardless of way, that will always always solve problems. 851 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 3: You make it easier playing next to uh the cam 852 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: when you're out there in the end. 853 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean I didn't have 854 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 5: a whole lot of players out there, but I mean 855 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 5: I'm sure, I'm sure he makes it. He makes it 856 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 5: easier for us inside too, so I think and vice 857 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 5: versial with TJ outside makes it easier for the guys inside, 858 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 5: just as long as we're all working together. 859 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 3: Just surprise you, he's still playing at the highest level 860 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: as he is in his age. 861 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 5: No, I mean I see him every day. I see 862 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 5: what he's capable of every day, and I have for 863 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 5: the last three years. So I just I don't know. 864 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 5: I feel like everyone feels the same. We see what 865 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 5: he can do, and come game day we s we 866 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 5: can really see what he can do. He's still in it, 867 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 5: still an elite inside guy. I think he will be 868 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 5: for a while. 869 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 3: Is it because the technical part of part of his game? 870 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 3: I mean, can you take some like, hey, if I 871 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 3: if I play technically sound, I might be to play 872 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 3: in this league a long time? 873 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I think that's a big part of it. 874 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 5: I mean, and the fact that he's just crazy strong 875 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 5: and being so technical, so fundamental, and also you know, 876 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 5: being crazy athletic and big and strong helps a lot. 877 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 5: I think that's why. You know, you see when he 878 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 5: he does and I'd say almost all the time. He's 879 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 5: very fundamentally sound. He has been for a long time 880 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 5: in this league. But you know, when you see him 881 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 5: play play that way and dominate people kind of gives 882 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 5: you an idea. You know, if you do play technically sound, 883 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 5: you can still you know, shed blocks and make plays 884 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 5: that are in your gap. You know, you can you 885 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 5: can still kind of make those splash plays while playing 886 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 5: playing within the defense. And he's he's done that for 887 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 5: a while, so yeah, oh yeah, very long time. Yeah, 888 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 5: no problem. 889 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 3: That was Steelers defensive lineman Isaiah Loudermilk with me earlier today. Again, 890 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 3: maybe more of a role this week with some of 891 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: the injuries they have on the defensive front. And yeah, 892 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 3: you know he get into those Nickel situations. Is Nickel 893 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: and dime your defensive front? 894 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: Really? 895 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 3: Those those four down guys up front are really kind 896 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 3: of the all defensive linemen mm hmm. 897 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 4: I mean last week was break class in case of 898 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 4: emergency situation, and you know he stepped up this week. 899 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 4: It might be like, well, we're gonna play more of 900 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 4: a four man front with a heavier end on the 901 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 4: defensive right. And we've talked about maybe yeah, and you're 902 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 4: not gonna be Von Miller coming off the edge or 903 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 4: anything like that, but I'm not sure you have to 904 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 4: be you know, secure the edge and battled out with 905 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 4: Miller and you know go from there. 906 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, do those kind of things. But Matt, that's lots 907 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 3: of more kicks. Yeah, block another kick, that'd be good. 908 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for our show today? Good one, absolutely. 909 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 3: But then well for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin 910 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 3: Miller here on site, keeping us on the air, and 911 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 3: for Tyler Viittmyer keeping our video online and making sure 912 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 3: it gets up on YouTube. I'm Dale Lolly. We thank 913 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 3: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on 914 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network