Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Oh, we have found the Heisman trophy. We
Speaker 1: didn't find the key, but the Heisman trophy was in
Speaker 1: the case that we sent to the College Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Welcome in. I know you probably had a
Speaker 1: few restless nights wondering about that. Carson Palmer certainly did.
Speaker 1: But PAULI and the I team has been on it
Speaker 1: all night long, all morning long, and we did hear
Speaker 1: from the College Football Hall of Fame they opened the case,
Speaker 1: the heisman was in it. Still no luck finding the key.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens if they send it back
Speaker 1: to Carson Palmer now probably have to go out and
Speaker 1: get a new case. But you know, my hands are
Speaker 1: free from this there. I'm done with this. That we
Speaker 1: move on until we get our next heisman in here.
Speaker 1: That we learned a valuable lesson, didn't we, Todd, We
Speaker 1: sure did. There's many things that could have been done differently, yes,
Speaker 1: like what like sending the key separately, not delegating it
Speaker 1: to anybody in the back. That's at least two that
Speaker 1: come to mind. And you know, we probably ruined a
Speaker 1: friendship between Dylan and Mario it's gonna take a long
Speaker 1: time for them to get to Yes, Mario, who doesn't
Speaker 1: have any friends here, had one in Dylan, and now
Speaker 1: he's reached out to Tyler and they were enemies. And
Speaker 1: I saw those two talking this morning and I was
Speaker 1: shocked they were in the same room and they were
Speaker 1: actually speaking to one another. That's what's happened. That's collateral
Speaker 1: damage here, Todd, That's what happens. It's ugly. Is it
Speaker 1: not getting better anytime soon? In the holidays are a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks away, Come on in and Staale while
Speaker 1: he is a finalist for the Heisman, he's Kenny Pickett,
Speaker 1: the pit quarterback. He'll join us coming up. I got
Speaker 1: to ask him about this fake slide, how long he
Speaker 1: had been planning that? And is he going to play
Speaker 1: in the Peach Bowl. He'll join us coming up eight
Speaker 1: seven seven three D P show email address DPA, Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a TP show. Are they
Speaker 1: going to implement the picket rule? Is college football going
Speaker 1: to have a picket rule where you can't, like, if
Speaker 1: you act like you're giving yourself up, you're giving yourself up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can make a rule, but
Speaker 1: it might be the Kenny Picket rule. He'll join us
Speaker 1: coming up mclove and pull question from the first hour.
Speaker 1: Would you rather be the greatest three point shooter, the
Speaker 1: best dunker eight three point shooter? Okay, if I said,
Speaker 1: you could be Doctor J or you could be Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: everything that goes with that. Let me take away money
Speaker 1: because obviously step has and will earn more than Doctor J.
Speaker 1: But if I look at impact on the game, on
Speaker 1: and off the court, style, legendary status, I can't help
Speaker 1: but think when Doc showed up at the Rutgers League
Speaker 1: in Harlem, and you had people up on buildings. They
Speaker 1: wanted a glimpse of Doctor J. And he didn't disappoint
Speaker 1: They came out to see Doc. They were up in trees,
Speaker 1: they were on top of buildings, they're on top of fences.
Speaker 1: They wanted to get a glimpse of Doctor J. Steph
Speaker 1: Curry's going to be labeled the greatest shooter of all time.
Speaker 1: He's sixteen made three pointers away from being the most
Speaker 1: decorated three point shooter in NBA history, passing Rayal. I
Speaker 1: guess I would probably want to be Doctor J. The
Speaker 1: more I think about him, because there is something about
Speaker 1: him when you're in his presence there, it's just different.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you think about what he did
Speaker 1: in the NBA, we missed that because it wasn't televised
Speaker 1: and it was more of oh my god. You know,
Speaker 1: you'd read an article and sometimes it was even more
Speaker 1: powerful when you were reading what this guy did. And
Speaker 1: as I mentioned last hour, I saw him play one
Speaker 1: time in person in the ABA and it was just
Speaker 1: I love the ABA, Red white and blue ball. A
Speaker 1: lot of the players who were in there. You did
Speaker 1: have some really good teams. The style was fun. The
Speaker 1: style was the NBA. Uh, well what the NBA is now?
Speaker 1: I mean the ABA invented that. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of scoring, shooting threes. And Doctor J was Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was front and center. He was spectacular. Yes, mclend I
Speaker 1: saw a replay of the Blazer Sixers finals from seventy seven,
Speaker 1: I believe, and I knew Doctor J from the eighties.
Speaker 1: He was a different player. He was much more physically
Speaker 1: like I think I might have seen it diminished Doctor J.
Speaker 1: Is that possible? Yes, you did what he did in
Speaker 1: that series against Portland. They won the first game and
Speaker 1: then they lost the next four and that was Bill
Speaker 1: Walton's Portland Trailblazers. But Doctor J that that Philadelphia team
Speaker 1: had as much talent as any team that never won
Speaker 1: an NBA title. You know, you had Darryl Dawkins, you
Speaker 1: had George McGinnis, you had Doug Collins, you had World
Speaker 1: b Free. Yeah, Doc m that was a really, really
Speaker 1: talented team. And Doc's the one who dominated. I mean,
Speaker 1: Doc could have been the MVP of the NBA Finals
Speaker 1: and they lost. He was that great. But he was
Speaker 1: clearly the best player on the floor. Yeah, anybody interested
Speaker 1: in playing the step Curry career salary game. Sure sounds
Speaker 1: like we're already firing up the band. They're always ready,
Speaker 1: those guys. Okay, Sharpe, how much is Steph Curry made
Speaker 1: up until this season started in his career? About twelve
Speaker 1: years eleven twelve years? How much has he made up
Speaker 1: to this point? High end and low end with his salaries?
Speaker 1: The past two seasons he made forty and forty three million.
Speaker 1: Okay for that, he never got the big big bucks.
Speaker 1: He got nice bucks. Right, I'm gonna go one seventy nine,
Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve million dollars up until the start
Speaker 1: of the season. Okay, here's the kicker. How much does
Speaker 1: Steph Curry do over the next five seasons total? He
Speaker 1: has a five more years leftis contract, including this year.
Speaker 1: What is he going to make? What's his total going
Speaker 1: to be for the next five years. Yes, he's already
Speaker 1: got two hundred and twelve in the bank. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: guess that he's going to have two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: more in the bank. Two hundred and sixty five million
Speaker 1: on the way, forty five, forty eight, fifty one, fifty
Speaker 1: five and fifty nine six. He's not going anywhere. He's
Speaker 1: losing half of that in taxas, of course, and he's
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Those whole house prices are California Hi
Speaker 1: real estate. It's not as much money as you think.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Didn't Phil Mickelson famously say that when
Speaker 1: somebody said, oh god, you made forty one million dollars,
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, but half in taxes, Like, Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of retiring because I don't want to pay twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars in taxes. I mean, it's just not worth
Speaker 1: it anywhere. Only twenty million dollars. You know that, You
Speaker 1: then you don't get the other twenty million dollars that
Speaker 1: comes with that, that is after taxes there, what are
Speaker 1: we going to stay Are we gonna stay with that
Speaker 1: in the end? So actually we had to see the results,
Speaker 1: so we just put up doctor j versus Curry. I
Speaker 1: have a question for all of us. If you were
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, would you play in the Peach Bowl? I
Speaker 1: would need advice. I would need somebody to tell me
Speaker 1: why I'm gonna play. I know it sounds good. Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll take out insurance, showcase yourself. Maybe you can be
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. But I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's at stake if he does play well
Speaker 1: or he doesn't play well. But you're starting to get
Speaker 1: that feeling that he might be the number one quarterback taken.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means he's the number one
Speaker 1: player taken. Yeah, Paul Canny help himself in the draft
Speaker 1: of any way by being a gamer, by playing in
Speaker 1: the game and playing well. Or is his draft status
Speaker 1: is draft status? I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they factor in. You know, somebody could say, hey, we
Speaker 1: want a guy who is not going to walk out
Speaker 1: on his team or guy's gonna want to play in
Speaker 1: these games, Like, there's gonna be games that are meaningless
Speaker 1: games and in the NFL, and you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: play in those games too. Yeah. See, he's already showing
Speaker 1: more dedication to the NFL team. That takes him putting
Speaker 1: prioritizing them ahead of yeah, meaningless game. Yeah, mcm I
Speaker 1: mean the NFL is shown, don't They don't care. He's
Speaker 1: you know, Jamar Chase this year, Michael Parsons this year,
Speaker 1: Nick Bosev went two. I think, yeah, I agree, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you had Christian McCaffrey, and you had Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournette sitting up Bowl games. MC. You heard when Paul said, though,
Speaker 1: but Kenny help himself. Kenny Ken He Kenny number one?
Speaker 1: Pick it. You can't see what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's get the T shirt. Yes, mcleomid. What Michigan
Speaker 1: State is that? That seems like a tough opponent to
Speaker 1: showcase your skills agains. I don't know. I know Ohio
Speaker 1: State rolled them, but I feel like there's two much downside.
Speaker 1: I would not go. Yesterday, LSU starting quarterback Max Johnson
Speaker 1: entered the transfer portal. He's the son of former NFL
Speaker 1: quarterback Brad Johnson and the latest name to now enter
Speaker 1: a crucial resource for college teams, and many like Johnson,
Speaker 1: are switching teams because of a new coach coming in.
Speaker 1: Others lost their jobs. Spencer Rattler lost his job at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: You got recent Heisman winners, number one overall picks Joe Burrow, Kyler,
Speaker 1: Murray Baker, Mayfield all transferred. The days of loyalty to
Speaker 1: a coach and vice versa are long gone, in part
Speaker 1: because the coaches themselves don't have that much loyalty. Actually
Speaker 1: creates more efficient quarterback market. Now talented qbs and other
Speaker 1: players don't have to sit out and if it's good
Speaker 1: enough for the college athlete, I'm not sure there's anything
Speaker 1: else that's more important here. And I don't know why
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson's son, Maximus Johnson, Yes, that's his name. There's
Speaker 1: no reason given that he's decided that he's going to
Speaker 1: leave LSU through twenty seven touchdowns as a saw more
Speaker 1: and his brother, who is a five star tight end
Speaker 1: coming to LSU. He's not coming to LSU now. I
Speaker 1: don't know what happened here that if he wasn't promised
Speaker 1: the job. If Brian Kelly's bringing in a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the transfer portal where he's got somebody already there, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, but you lose your starting quarterback and then
Speaker 1: you lose his brother, who was a five star recruit
Speaker 1: as a tight end. Not a good week for Brian Kelly.
Speaker 1: A couple of phone calls in here eight seven seven
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Speaker 1: radio line up. Dino in New York leads us off
Speaker 1: this hour. Hi Dino, what's on your mind? Hi? Young
Speaker 1: guys five nine two o seven. Want to first wish
Speaker 1: mclovin good luck on his new venture. We always have
Speaker 1: the broken glasses, one of the greatest moments in show history.
Speaker 1: The look on his face was priceless. Yep. And we
Speaker 1: have a new new T shirt. It's called mcleven and
Speaker 1: it's uh it's a tribute to mclovin, as it's on
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick dot com. All right, what else do you know?
Speaker 1: Pauli's question today is walk off worthy. It's you know nothing,
Speaker 1: taking nothing away from Steph Curry's fantastic. But Doctor J
Speaker 1: is just, you know, unbelievable, and I think I got
Speaker 1: two things that, you know, push it in Doc's favor.
Speaker 1: Number one, he's got the greatest in game dunk ever
Speaker 1: when he rocked the cradle in an NBA Finals clinching game.
Speaker 1: That's tough to beat in my opinion. And the real
Speaker 1: clincher his wife's name was Turquoise. That's a walk off
Speaker 1: right there. All right, thank you. I didn't factor that
Speaker 1: in uh Berry in Long Island, night Berry, good morning. Sollers.
Speaker 1: Between the ages of eleven and fourteen, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be either Doctor J Walt Frazier or one of Gladys
Speaker 1: Knights Pips m my father who is no longer with us.
Speaker 1: He used to take me to the Kyliseem to see
Speaker 1: Julius when the ABA was run and gone, and by
Speaker 1: the time he got to the NBA, he was actually
Speaker 1: on the decline. Did you want to call it that,
Speaker 1: but he was. He was amazing. And regarding mclovin's departure,
Speaker 1: I too, am Jewish and wear glasses. Who's gonna notice?
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Barry. I had people yesterday and
Speaker 1: two people who are in the business who work elsewhere,
Speaker 1: and they're like, uh, letting people audition. I go, no, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do that right now, I said, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't replace mclovin. And you know, I
Speaker 1: want let it breathe a little bit. Let's see and
Speaker 1: if not, that's okay. You know, we started out with
Speaker 1: just four of us. Then mclovin came on board twelve
Speaker 1: years ago, and so I'm I'm not I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: look at replacing him. You know, the body is not
Speaker 1: cold right now. Yeah, I'm a club. I didn't audition.
Speaker 1: I just kept showing up. You did, you did. But
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm going to give advice to the
Speaker 1: kids in the business, keep showing up not here though, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't start some people don't start to start showing up here, please. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And no need to send any resumes, nothing. If if
Speaker 1: we get around you maybe having somebody come in and
Speaker 1: just sit in a chair for a day or so,
Speaker 1: and then maybe we'll do that. But right now, we're
Speaker 1: not replacing me. He's not irreplaceable. I'm just saying we're
Speaker 1: not replacing him. Yes, and that guy with glasses has
Speaker 1: to realize this is not a safe place for glasses.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's the one thing I'll tell you about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's that's Barry in Long Island. All right. We'll
Speaker 1: get more phone calls coming up. Pull question. Are we
Speaker 1: gonna stay with Yeah? Now you go to dan Patrick
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Speaker 1: like that. I like that. We'll take a break. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to Kenny Pickett, the pit quarterback who joined us
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Speaker 1: Kenny good Morning. Official height in weight is what official
Speaker 1: height and weight? Six three two twenty night, So almost
Speaker 1: sixty four almost six four. I like that. You didn't
Speaker 1: round up. Okay, you're you're telling the truth. I like that.
Speaker 1: And it's so some good, good qualities are coming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got your degree, yes, Sarah. And marketing? Okay, what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do with that? We'll find out, hopefully
Speaker 1: hopefully play football for a little bit and then figure
Speaker 1: that one out. How would you market yourself? How would
Speaker 1: I market myself for the NFL? Yeah? Um, I mean
Speaker 1: I would just say, uh, I mean the tape. The
Speaker 1: tape is your best tool in football. So you know,
Speaker 1: no matter what I say or anybody else says, if
Speaker 1: you know, you just roll the tape, you find all
Speaker 1: the answers there. When did you realize that you could
Speaker 1: play at a high level, that you could be an
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback? I believe this since I was young, and
Speaker 1: I always just worked so hard towards it, and you know,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I just through all the
Speaker 1: ups and downs, I always kept that belief. I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of what kept me going in the right
Speaker 1: direction and staying staying focused and always working hard and
Speaker 1: getting better every day than it kind of just came
Speaker 1: into the fruition forman you grew up in Jersey favorite
Speaker 1: quarterback growing up, Donovan McNabb. I was a big Eagles fan.
Speaker 1: Oh did you meet him? I met him once that
Speaker 1: kind of like a fan fair. I got some pictures.
Speaker 1: I was like six or seven years old, So it
Speaker 1: was bad. It was back in the day. Do you
Speaker 1: remember what it was like? That feeling I do? I did?
Speaker 1: It was one of I mean, I was a huge
Speaker 1: I used to go to the games and my dad
Speaker 1: all the time. We would dread to an hour and
Speaker 1: a half drive from my house and we grew up
Speaker 1: big Eagles fans. That one famous game against Green Bay
Speaker 1: and Brett Farve and uh, I was at that game
Speaker 1: back and I think like two thousand and five maybe,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's way back. Eagles got three first round
Speaker 1: picks there, Kenny, they do they do. We'll see what happens. Okay,
Speaker 1: would you want to follow Dan Marino's footsteps? And I
Speaker 1: know you went to pitt but Marino of course played
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. Steelers famously passed on him. So you
Speaker 1: could play Pittsburgh or you could play for the Eagles.
Speaker 1: If I gave you those two choices, what would you take? Oh,
Speaker 1: those are great choices. I would take whoever has the
Speaker 1: higher pick, whoever first option. Okay, all right, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I'll take anywhere. Um. You know, just the dream of
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL is you know, you know, since
Speaker 1: I was a kid, since I picked up a football.
Speaker 1: So I would love anywhere. As far as the picket
Speaker 1: slide where you didn't give yourself up and you kept running.
Speaker 1: How long had you thought about that move against wake fours.
Speaker 1: I never thought about doing it ever. Um, it was
Speaker 1: just kind of an instinct thing I couldn't I got
Speaker 1: to the sideline. All the quarterbacks were asking, like, what
Speaker 1: was I thinking? How did I what was I planning
Speaker 1: on doing? I had no idea. I just kind of
Speaker 1: I blinked, and the next thing I knew, I ended
Speaker 1: up in the end zone. So I just kind of
Speaker 1: felt as a player just kind of feel things. I
Speaker 1: felt them pull up before I even was gonna start
Speaker 1: to slide. I think that's the only way I could
Speaker 1: have had that idea to do that in that moment,
Speaker 1: and how fast I was going, Um, but you know
Speaker 1: we're worked out for us. Do you think they're going
Speaker 1: to change the rule? Oh, I'm sure. I mean people
Speaker 1: are saying I cheated. I think that's a little, you know, ridiculous.
Speaker 1: There's no rule for it. Um. You know there's there's
Speaker 1: guys that fake running out of bounds and and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and you know I've ever done that. This
Speaker 1: was just kind of like a I couldn't even tell
Speaker 1: you what I was thinking. I just went out there
Speaker 1: and did it. But I guarantee, with how much publicity
Speaker 1: it's getting, I'm sure there will be a rule next year. Well,
Speaker 1: how surprised are you at that publicity? I was pretty surprised.
Speaker 1: I thought in the game, I was just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I made I made a play. I didn't think it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a big deal. Um until obviously after
Speaker 1: the game, and days after the game it was still
Speaker 1: being talked about. Um. So yeah, I mean it is
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean we won by twenty something points.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was a deciding factor in the game,
Speaker 1: but definitely a big player to start the game. I
Speaker 1: think you can only do it once though, Kenny, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it again, if I tried prob I could.
Speaker 1: You know, I've never practiced it. I've never I don't
Speaker 1: know how I did. I don't even know how I
Speaker 1: came up with it on the fly. I just did
Speaker 1: it just being a player. So, yeah, are you playing
Speaker 1: in the Peach Bowl? Well, with you know, recent news
Speaker 1: and out of you know, our team with Coach Whipple
Speaker 1: and everybody, you know something. I actually just got home
Speaker 1: yesterday and I didn't get a chance to talk about
Speaker 1: it with my parents, just kind of enjoying the season
Speaker 1: and get a chance to see some family who I
Speaker 1: haven't been around and in a long time. So but
Speaker 1: definitely I'll be talking about that with my family here soon.
Speaker 1: So you're undecided, i'd say on the side of right now, Yes,
Speaker 1: what happened with coach Whipple stepping down your offensive coordinator? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's personal with his decision and the
Speaker 1: information he gave me, so I'll keep that tight. But
Speaker 1: it happens. Things happen, and um, you know, he has
Speaker 1: his reasons, and UM you know, I can't thank him
Speaker 1: enough for all the things that we were able to
Speaker 1: accomplish together in three years and seeing how much we
Speaker 1: grew in the first you know, looking at the first
Speaker 1: two years to last year, just a lot of hard
Speaker 1: work and U you know, very grateful for coach Whip. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, do I go back six years ago
Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey. He sat out a bowl game and
Speaker 1: everybody was up in arms, and then Leonard Fournette sat out,
Speaker 1: didn't play in a bowl game. Cavon Thibodeau at Oregon's
Speaker 1: probably not going to play in a bowl game. We
Speaker 1: haven't seen quarterbacks. I don't think, do it. But I understand,
Speaker 1: like what is the risk and the reward for you
Speaker 1: playing in the Peach Bowl? Like what do you think
Speaker 1: you could gain by playing in the Peach Bowl? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna be honest and something I haven't
Speaker 1: you know, sat down and discussed with my family. It's
Speaker 1: been a kind of a crazy past couple of days. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, getting the Johnny United news and the Heisman
Speaker 1: news and it's just been kind of a whirldwin of
Speaker 1: two days and driving back to New Jersey. So, um,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, these next couple of days, I'll
Speaker 1: be able to sit down and really figure that out.
Speaker 1: Who's coming to New York for the Heisman ceremony. I'm
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, like an hour south of the city, so, um,
Speaker 1: I planned and have I mean, my girlfriend, my mom, dad,
Speaker 1: my sister definitely will be there, and I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, you know, probably a hundred people at
Speaker 1: a spot for twenty minutes from it that we'll go
Speaker 1: meet up after and get a chance to you know,
Speaker 1: celebrate and see a lot of friends and family. So
Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be a special day for sure. Who
Speaker 1: would you vote for the Heisman? Who would I vote for?
Speaker 1: I'd vote for myself, you know, just all the all
Speaker 1: the things that you know I've done this season. It
Speaker 1: has been done in school history, in acc history. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like I'm the best player
Speaker 1: in the country. Good, gotta have confidence in yourself. I
Speaker 1: think Bryce is going to win the Heisman. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's a great honor to be able to, you know,
Speaker 1: represent your school and it's one of those moments that's
Speaker 1: that's going to be history when you're there, you know,
Speaker 1: even if you're in the audience. Congrats on the great year,
Speaker 1: a great career, I should say, And good luck with
Speaker 1: that decision. I know it'll be difficult in deciding if
Speaker 1: you're going to play or not. And we'll be following.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Kenny, absolutely, thanks so much. Good. That's Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 1: He's going to be one of the final four, the finalists,
Speaker 1: they're going to New York City. He'd vote for himself.
Speaker 1: Do I think he's going to play in the Peach Bowl?
Speaker 1: I don't. That'd be my gut feeling. And you got
Speaker 1: to look at the risk and the reward. Can he
Speaker 1: be Can you elevate your draft draft status by a
Speaker 1: playing well against Michigan State? I guess now it gets
Speaker 1: to the point where you've established yourself, you're on everybody's radar.
Speaker 1: Now it's going to be when you do the individual interviews,
Speaker 1: your medicals, and what you do your measurables at the combine.
Speaker 1: That's what this comes down to. I don't think that
Speaker 1: he could play his way in or out of a
Speaker 1: draft pick, you know, higher or lower. Yeah, McLevin six
Speaker 1: three and three eights and two twenty pounds. A lot
Speaker 1: of nflgms if they're listening like that, that sounds good, right, yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he didn't round off to sixty four. I like
Speaker 1: that honesty. Yeah, Well, I think with three eighths, you'd
Speaker 1: have to round down. Oh you do, yeah, which again
Speaker 1: it's just being more. Is it three eights or three
Speaker 1: fourths three fourth? I don't know. I thought he said
Speaker 1: three eighths three oddly specific um, but I think in
Speaker 1: math rules, I think you would bend down in that instance.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, he should have showed up for that class.
Speaker 1: Yes point. We talked yesterday. Would one of these balls
Speaker 1: give an appearance fee to a person? If you're the
Speaker 1: peach ball and you hear that Kenny Pickett is on
Speaker 1: the fence, also Kenny Pickett, it's the Chick fil A
Speaker 1: peach ball, you go lifetime. I'm supply of chicken sandwiches
Speaker 1: for play a quarter. I brought it up yesterday, and
Speaker 1: I wasn't being, you know, flippant. I'd meanted that this
Speaker 1: could happened down the road where you asked for an
Speaker 1: appearance fee, somebody's going to do it and you can
Speaker 1: get it name, image and likeness. Let's say Chick fil
Speaker 1: A goes hey, we're gonna give you a a one
Speaker 1: year endorsement, and we're gonna give you seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: We need you to appear in a couple of ads
Speaker 1: in the Pittsburgh area. Whatever it is. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if Chick fil A is in Pittsburgh. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna play Kenny or are you chicken? Oh? Damn man,
Speaker 1: that's another walk off. That's that's two. That's a walk
Speaker 1: back in. I think, yeah, are you chicken? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 1: pretty clove it. So we didn't have Chick fil A
Speaker 1: in the Philadelphia, New Jersey area. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it means as much if it was a Wawa sponsor. Wawa?
Speaker 1: What is Wawa? Is like a fast It's at a
Speaker 1: convenience It's like a fancier seven eleven. Oh, I think
Speaker 1: they have Wahwa in Atlanta. How could it be fancy eleven? Also,
Speaker 1: I think we're using fancy leastly there is the best Waha.
Speaker 1: Why have their hot dogs only been there for like
Speaker 1: two days? Journey, I never bought anything. You know, when
Speaker 1: you get a slice of pizza one of those convenience stores,
Speaker 1: or you go in and you get sushi at a
Speaker 1: convenience store, the chances are something's gonna go wrong here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun. There used to be this bar in New
Speaker 1: York City called Rudi's and they had one of those
Speaker 1: rotisserie hot dog lays. It's a class I think you
Speaker 1: went there once or twice with me. They had free
Speaker 1: hot dogs. That's how bad these hot dogs were. In
Speaker 1: New York City. They on there's rotisserie hot dogs because
Speaker 1: they wanted to keep you drinking at four in the morning. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Looking at Kenny Pickett's numbers here they won eleven and two,
Speaker 1: they won the acc he uh, let's see forty two touchdown,
Speaker 1: seven interceptions, had some pretty h pretty good rushing numbers,
Speaker 1: respectable numbers. But that that size. He does have the
Speaker 1: AD factor. I will say that when you watch him,
Speaker 1: you've got the AD factor, confident, size, strength, movement. But
Speaker 1: you know, once they break, the scouts come in and
Speaker 1: they start to break you down and then you're going
Speaker 1: to get Remember Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that guy is going to be a top
Speaker 1: five pick and he's going to be a great quarterback. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: top five pick. And then you hear the scouts say,
Speaker 1: got a long wind up, you know, don't like the delivery,
Speaker 1: and then I go, oh, okay. They said this about
Speaker 1: Kaepernick as well, like these longer wind ups and then
Speaker 1: trying to change that is really difficult. But you know
Speaker 1: they want to look how you throw it, how quickly
Speaker 1: you get it out. Uh, you know what kind of
Speaker 1: bad habits do you have? They'll look at your footwork,
Speaker 1: I mean all this stuff. You'll have tendencies. Do you
Speaker 1: lock in? You know, can you do your progressions? I
Speaker 1: mean there's can you throw guys over? But you know,
Speaker 1: they have fifty things that they're looking at, but probably
Speaker 1: five things that are more, you know, the most important
Speaker 1: things to them as to what your draft status is
Speaker 1: going to be. But you've got a lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: It feels like are bunched in there that maybe five
Speaker 1: or six. And I don't know if you have a
Speaker 1: quarterback who will emerge as the potential for being a
Speaker 1: number one overall pick, because right now, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you do, Like, if you're the Texans, do you
Speaker 1: go that we're gonna take him, He's going to be
Speaker 1: our quarterback? And maybe maybe he's going to be that
Speaker 1: quarterback because if you said to me, Trey Lance, niner
Speaker 1: is going to go in all in for Trey Lance,
Speaker 1: and I'd go, boy, I have to see a little
Speaker 1: bit more from him. Same thing with Mac Jones when
Speaker 1: Mac Jones first was drafted by the Patriots, even when
Speaker 1: this season started, and you know, you gotta have a
Speaker 1: hot take and you've got to have an opinion. And
Speaker 1: I said at the time, I don't know, Like I
Speaker 1: truly didn't know. When I watched the games, he had
Speaker 1: easy games. But I saw Greg McElroy have easy games.
Speaker 1: AJ McCarron have easy games too, a tongue of ioloh
Speaker 1: have easy games. I still don't know if is a
Speaker 1: great quarterback. He's improving. I don't know. Mac Jones, I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's my hot take. He seems to be
Speaker 1: the perfect quarterback for Bill Belichick. Is he better than expected?
Speaker 1: I don't know. If he's better than expected it. I
Speaker 1: think that his success is quicker than I expected. How's
Speaker 1: that because I do think from everything that we've heard,
Speaker 1: is he picks up the playbook. He's really sharp in
Speaker 1: kind of digesting this, disseminating it, and then you know,
Speaker 1: carrying it out. And he's had a couple of throws
Speaker 1: that I thought were really impressive, throwing a wide receiver open,
Speaker 1: and that's what you have to do in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But I don't know how good he is. I don't
Speaker 1: know how good Trey Lance is justin fields. Even Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Zach Wilson, I don't know. Now do
Speaker 1: you see things and you go, wow, that's impressive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I saw Zach Wilson make Patrick Mahomes throws
Speaker 1: in his workout. Well, that's fine in a workout. Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence three years, great playing in big games? Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean people, the jury was out on just Shaun Watson
Speaker 1: at Clemson and I went, he's done everything that you
Speaker 1: want him to do, and he did it on a
Speaker 1: big stage. But you still had people going, no, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You know what, Let's take the guy that
Speaker 1: nobody's heard of, Mitchell Trubisky. Mac Jones did it one year.
Speaker 1: Remember Dwayne Haskins, Oh my god, he's got the size strength. Well,
Speaker 1: if you saw Ohio State games, I go back to
Speaker 1: the Michigan game. I could have completed a couple of
Speaker 1: those passes. Those guys were wide open. That's the difference.
Speaker 1: In the NFL, you get a split second. If even
Speaker 1: that mac Jones through three passes is an indictment on
Speaker 1: his arm strength, Depending on the analyst yes or no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Trey Lance from the Niners is the big mister. He
Speaker 1: mentioned it. He didn't play football last year. He played
Speaker 1: one game through thirty passes for North Dakota State. He
Speaker 1: hasn't played competitive football since twenty nineteen. We're almost at
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. How can you develop like that without
Speaker 1: being on the field, either in college or you're not
Speaker 1: getting on the field much. This year doesn't appear. No,
Speaker 1: And I think that's been the big surprise is Garoppolo
Speaker 1: has played well enough to keep the job, although the
Speaker 1: game against Seattle he didn't, but he has played well
Speaker 1: well enough to keep them in the playoff chase. I
Speaker 1: think when when somebody goes all in like the Niners
Speaker 1: did for Trey Lance, we expect like he should be
Speaker 1: contributing to this team. Now. I know he's been injured,
Speaker 1: but anybody could have had Mac Jones. Does that mean
Speaker 1: if mac Jones went to Carolina or went to Chicago
Speaker 1: that he's going to be great? The answers, No, I
Speaker 1: don't think he would have been. It's did you go
Speaker 1: to the right place? So he goes and he's got
Speaker 1: the greatest coach in NFL history. He's got an offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator who has been there and is going to be there.
Speaker 1: Offensive line, underrated running game, They got a really good defense.
Speaker 1: So you factor those things in. Now you have a chance.
Speaker 1: Justin Fields doesn't have a chance in Chicago. Not anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, not anytime soon. Zach Wilson, Not anytime soon,
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. If he held up his end of the bargain,
Speaker 1: he would have a chance to be really successful because
Speaker 1: that's a better team. It's who draft did you, what's
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, what's our style, and what are the expectations?
Speaker 1: And I think people now have expectations with mac Jones
Speaker 1: they didn't before. They're like, oh, gosh, he's going to
Speaker 1: compete with Cam. Oh. Oh he beat out Cam. Oh
Speaker 1: they're releasing Cam. Oh. Okay, boy, maybe he's the next
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Okay, nobody knew what Tom Brady was and
Speaker 1: even after he won a Super Bowl. I remember the
Speaker 1: day after people weren't sure about Tom Brady. So the
Speaker 1: comparisons with mac Jones, they're only relevant because he's in
Speaker 1: the embryonic stages, playing for the same coach, offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: the familiarity. Do I think he's you know Tom Brady
Speaker 1: light don't. It's not even fair to say that to
Speaker 1: either one of them, but Mac Jones. Now, the expectation
Speaker 1: are there because you're winning. You might be a super
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber team. Now we want to jump to the conclusion,
Speaker 1: to the end of the book. Oh, it's going to
Speaker 1: be Belichick against Brady and the super Bowl. Okay, and
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Speaker 1: and this is the player comp for the pit quarterback
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, who just poins do we have music for
Speaker 1: against the Grain? And then McLellan has the honors. Okay,
Speaker 1: this isn't against the Grain player cop, It's not who
Speaker 1: I think you would expect. And I want to see
Speaker 1: if you guys can guess who I compare pit quarterback
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett too. Oh, there's no hint. M he was
Speaker 1: drafted in the last ten years. Who do I think
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, Joe Burrow, Okay, Joe Burrow, anybody else? Justin Herbert? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I wouldn't have thought of that. And
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow too, Todd. I was gonna say Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: Also Paulie Derek Carr. Oh, that's really good. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is gonna sound so mean. Can I just say I
Speaker 1: love Kenny Pickett. I think he's gonna be great, Just
Speaker 1: say it. I think he's got a Blake Bortle's pre
Speaker 1: draft feeling. Oh wow, and I'll take no. No, I
Speaker 1: mean pre draft like hanging around the top ten, eleven, twelve,
Speaker 1: and then he's going to go really high and draft
Speaker 1: day because he's big. Like wait, wait, wait, are you
Speaker 1: comparing him to Blake Bortles as a draft process his
Speaker 1: draft stock, yes, but not his playing ability. Well Blake Bortles,
Speaker 1: Well you didn't say that. We're looking at Fayre comp
Speaker 1: with his talent. That's why it gets great. He reminds
Speaker 1: me so much of Bortles. Bortles was awesome in college.
Speaker 1: He helped get them to a BCS bowled at a
Speaker 1: smaller school, played a little bit of weaker college, big
Speaker 1: strong arms, just like and by Way Bortles to thirty
Speaker 1: five touchdowns of one season. I know he was. It
Speaker 1: just reminds me of a guy who's kind of a
Speaker 1: mid level college hanging around big guy good release. No,
Speaker 1: I think Blake Bortles surprised everybody. Kenny Picketts, a Heisman finalist,
Speaker 1: Bortles was at least ten and most spot drafts, so
Speaker 1: he went up to three. But that's where Picket is.
Speaker 1: He's like ten, eleven, twelve. I'm telling like, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised at what you said that he goes a
Speaker 1: lot higher than we think. That's what reminds me of Bortles. Okay,
Speaker 1: is that it for you against the grain? Yeah? Oh okay,
Speaker 1: I will disappointed. I thought you'd be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: could see I remember when Bortles went. Maybe Pickle will
Speaker 1: be like that go in his backyard, just like Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles went from UCF to Jacksonville, Pit to Pitt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that felt like a reach by Jacksonville with Blake
Speaker 1: bortlelegs Yeah that I don't know if a team is
Speaker 1: gonna it'll feel like a reach with Kenny Pickett, just
Speaker 1: because we're aware of Kenny Pickett. I think Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: people talked about him, but I don't know if they
Speaker 1: looked at him, and I don't think that they were
Speaker 1: looking at him and breaking his game down where they go,
Speaker 1: you know what, he's got a great motion or I
Speaker 1: mean Chris Simms famously said, I you know, he looks
Speaker 1: like he should be throwing left handed then right handed.
Speaker 1: You know they're not saying that about Kenny Pickett. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but pre draft, Blake Bortles was was hot. I mean
Speaker 1: he was. He's very possibly thought up. Yes, Dan, you're
Speaker 1: missing it. This is classic mclovin playing two sides of
Speaker 1: an analysis. Right now, people will talk about that mclovin
Speaker 1: compared him to Blake Bortles, which is a slight mclovin
Speaker 1: con distanced himself by saying, no, I'm saying the area
Speaker 1: around him and the draft buzz. Now, if Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: somehow doesn't work out in the NFL, mclove will come back.
Speaker 1: He years later and said, hey, who called it? Who
Speaker 1: called it me? It goes back to the Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he won't be working with us then, so we won't
Speaker 1: even have him back. He'll still call in an let us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we won't even care about him. It's the Blaine Gabbert
Speaker 1: analysis that he had. He said he's more pro ready.
Speaker 1: He didn't say he'd be good in the pros. He
Speaker 1: said he was more pro ready than Cam Newton. I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna go high. I thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna go number one. Blaine Gabbert's gonna get a veteran
Speaker 1: coach to take Cam Newton because well, veteran coach, because
Speaker 1: you need to. Cam Newton's not close. He's three years away,
Speaker 1: say Chan Gailey and Buffalo. You know how much time
Speaker 1: does chan Gailey have if he has a couple losing seasons,
Speaker 1: he's out. I don't think he has any time. And
Speaker 1: Gabbert's more pro ready right now? Where did that come from?
Speaker 1: I know? Is somebody garry up all my bad takes
Speaker 1: for the end. No, we wouldn't do that. No, you
Speaker 1: don't have much time left. Can's not closed. He's three
Speaker 1: years away. Did you see gag Did you see Cam
Speaker 1: two weeks ago? I think that came out to be true. Uh,
Speaker 1: didn't you see Blaine Gabbert a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, he's not playing who has
Speaker 1: a ring? By the way, Uh, Blaine Gabbert does as
Speaker 1: he does. Blake Gabert also a high pick on our
Speaker 1: handsome quarterback draft as his Cam Camson. Yeah, lottery pairing obviously.
Speaker 1: I got a really nice letter here and uh, this
Speaker 1: is uh Justin Rayner who sent a nice letter here.
Speaker 1: People still write letters. Dear Dan Patrick, my name is
Speaker 1: Justin Rayner, writing you to let you know how much
Speaker 1: your show has meant to me. Recently lost my older
Speaker 1: brother a couple of days ago. During these last five days,
Speaker 1: you and the guys who have taken my mind off
Speaker 1: the pane, and you brought me so much joy. I
Speaker 1: don't dwell on my loss during your show, being from
Speaker 1: Seaton's laugh, Fritzie's creepy limericks. Oh, crappy limericks. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: crappy limericks. They're both mclovin's bad pole questions, poly snarky
Speaker 1: jabs at Fritzie. Thank you again for bringing me joy
Speaker 1: and laughter during the day. I look forward to more
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Speaker 1: And tell Todd t o d to come up with
Speaker 1: better limericks. It's signed our biggest fans. Just want to
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Speaker 1: but make love it. Yes, that being said, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to get his wish with Todd's better. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. It's definitely not gonna but it
Speaker 1: was still very thoughtful words. Thank you Todd, you got Yeah. Yes,
Speaker 1: what if he said in his letter, PS to make
Speaker 1: me feel better at this tough time, no more limericks.
Speaker 1: I don't think Todd would divide by it. If you
Speaker 1: could make Justin, our biggest fan, feel better with no
Speaker 1: more limericks, would you do it ever again? Yeah, knowing
Speaker 1: that you would cause him pain every time you do
Speaker 1: one of your limits. I don't want to cause in
Speaker 1: pay But I don't know. I don't have any kind
Speaker 1: of previous relationship with the guy where I would like, well,
Speaker 1: stop being creative. He says, he's, well, you haven't been creative.
Speaker 1: He's our number one fan. He's our number one You
Speaker 1: have a lot of number one fan No. No, Justin
Speaker 1: said he's he's our number one club and everything. No,
Speaker 1: he wrote it down. I write a lot of things
Speaker 1: down to it, my crazy dog. Okay, so you would
Speaker 1: cause Justin, I would roll the dice in him being
Speaker 1: a little despondent once in a while, so then I
Speaker 1: can write in a case of a limo Gus and
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Good morning, Gus, what's on your mind? Good morning,
Speaker 1: mister Patrick. Hey, Justin says he's your number one fan.
Speaker 1: I say, I'm going on a dates and I would
Speaker 1: add it to armist so you know, just believe everything
Speaker 1: you guys here. Okay, um, I'm talking about the Steph
Speaker 1: Curry thing debate. Like it's like, look, no disrespect to
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Okay, he's gonna get the record and everything,
Speaker 1: which the record may not even last that long because
Speaker 1: how long did ray Allen have it before step took it?
Speaker 1: You know? And then how long did Reggie have it
Speaker 1: before ray Allen took it from him? Do we really
Speaker 1: have to find and this is respected, doctor Jay, but
Speaker 1: do we have to really go back that far to
Speaker 1: find someone to compare with Curry? As who would you
Speaker 1: rather have? Oh no, no, we were talking about best shooter,
Speaker 1: best dunker though, Gus. That's that's the only reason why
Speaker 1: and thanks for the phone call. It's always great to
Speaker 1: hear from you. Yeah, it wasn't you know. We can't
Speaker 1: find anybody to compare to Steph Curry too. We've got
Speaker 1: to go back to Doctor Jay. It's just Doc is
Speaker 1: as good a dunker as ever, and Steph Curry's the
Speaker 1: greatest shooter. So Paulie asked, would you rather be the
Speaker 1: greatest dunker the greatest shooter? I'd be the greatest shooter. Yes,
Speaker 1: Gus got a little caddy there with justin two. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit, he's a little down. Yeah, final hour
Speaker 1: coming up. More phone calls back after this and the
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