Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, or production of The Black
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Speaker 1: hm hm. Welcome back to another additional All the Smoke.
Speaker 1: Jack was good. What's up my brother? This is uh
Speaker 1: this is your first show as a married man. How
Speaker 1: does that feel? It feels good to feel the same
Speaker 1: because she were me the same, so it ain't nothing different.
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful, beautiful weekend. Though beautiful week it
Speaker 1: was definitely dope. Definitely though. Man, we got someone I've
Speaker 1: been a big fan of for a long time. Uh,
Speaker 1: not while he was in college because his school hurt
Speaker 1: my school, but while he was in the league, Man,
Speaker 1: Big four, the n fan you know, being from up North,
Speaker 1: this dude held it down for several years. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show, Frank Gore, Frank, how you doing, Bro? I'm
Speaker 1: good Man, and congrats Man. I don't get married, so
Speaker 1: we cand man. Man, appreciate it, Bro, appreciate it. Thanks
Speaker 1: for coming out on Broy. I appreciate you know. I
Speaker 1: respect your boys, Man. I appreciate your boys helping me
Speaker 1: on the day. Man, Yeah, no doubt so. Sixteen years
Speaker 1: in the league and I think I read something less
Speaker 1: a team calls you are right for the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: ready for you to run in there and get a
Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns in the Super Bowl? Is that it?
Speaker 1: Have we seen the last of Frank Gore on the
Speaker 1: football field? That will be it? You know, I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, I did everything, man, especially you know I
Speaker 1: have to come out of college. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: what I had to deal with two knee surgeries, shows
Speaker 1: of surgeries. You know what I'm saying. Motherfucker's was taking
Speaker 1: me off the boys, saying I won't play two or
Speaker 1: three years. And I've been blessed man to say what
Speaker 1: I did in the NFL. I'm cool with my individual goals.
Speaker 1: You know, well to go back, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If I can get a ring, we'll see, you know
Speaker 1: how it is. We'll see. Yeah. But I want to say,
Speaker 1: I mean, sixteen years in the NFL as a as
Speaker 1: a running back, though like as a as a skill position,
Speaker 1: that ship don't happen, man. So I mean I definitely
Speaker 1: wanted to salute you man for your longevity, like you said,
Speaker 1: ups and down injuries. You know, we'll get into more
Speaker 1: stuff later, man, but just off top man, we want
Speaker 1: to salute you man. Sixteen years in the NFL. That's
Speaker 1: no small feed man, So congratulations. If if we have
Speaker 1: seen the last year on the field, a future Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, Yeah, it's only a matter of time. So
Speaker 1: we we had Darren Williams on the show man what
Speaker 1: is about two months ago? Jack, Yeah, and we were
Speaker 1: going through his interview and he just popped it up
Speaker 1: on us like, yeah, you know, man, I've been training.
Speaker 1: I don't want to fight, and you know ship, you know,
Speaker 1: showtimes are always trying to make something happen and fast forward.
Speaker 1: Now we're about you know, not too far away from
Speaker 1: you guys, uh fight. Um. Thoughts on how this whole
Speaker 1: process kind of came about and on top of that,
Speaker 1: how long have you been uh boxing yourself? Well, I've
Speaker 1: been training in Boston since two dollars SIPs. But you
Speaker 1: know I was trying. I was training for like getting
Speaker 1: in shape ball, you know, especially at my position when
Speaker 1: I got older, I really took it serious. I kind
Speaker 1: of put that that resume in my training before I
Speaker 1: started football training. You know, once you hit like at
Speaker 1: my position, they call you they started to call you old.
Speaker 1: We got all season workout with the team around like
Speaker 1: me April May and steady me, me doing all season
Speaker 1: workout with them. I was probably just going to gym
Speaker 1: and Boston, you know, just to save my list for
Speaker 1: the season. And I just saw myself getting better and better.
Speaker 1: It's all season. I wasn't really sure if I wanted
Speaker 1: to play or not. So you know, while trained that
Speaker 1: for football, it's a it's a Boston gym, U Steales.
Speaker 1: We got like, you know, a bunch of young guys
Speaker 1: who got a chance to be chimps one day. And
Speaker 1: you know I don't. I don't train with him a lot.
Speaker 1: And the coach always told me, you know, all the
Speaker 1: guys he's on training like football guys. You always I
Speaker 1: was the best one, you know. I always had the
Speaker 1: base it. I was just joking around, playing around, and
Speaker 1: I want sure if I wanted to play, and it
Speaker 1: was like, if you don't play, I think you should
Speaker 1: get a fight. I said, let me see. It was
Speaker 1: like a week I think train account a team call.
Speaker 1: But man, the family was going up and see my steps.
Speaker 1: So I'm playing college. The first college game they called
Speaker 1: me and my my, my girl was kind of mad,
Speaker 1: you know, she was kind of mad that she was
Speaker 1: looking forward. She was looking forward to it because you know,
Speaker 1: you know I have I've been going for so long, man,
Speaker 1: you know, especially around this time, you know, and you
Speaker 1: know I got two boys in college, bro, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They both freshmen. You know, they're doing
Speaker 1: their thing, and you know, she was looking forward to
Speaker 1: do a family thing. And when they called, she thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna train. I saw I saw her like
Speaker 1: her face looking at the day they called. So I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what I had to tell him.
Speaker 1: You know, I had to tell a team like, man,
Speaker 1: if you all really want me, y'all gotta wait the monday, um,
Speaker 1: so that it was cool with it. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to Wisconsin to see my son play. And I had
Speaker 1: a great time. Bro, I had a great time out there.
Speaker 1: You know, before the game. Out of the game, you
Speaker 1: know something you know I saw that I missed. And
Speaker 1: then when I got home Monday, they called back and
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was iffy about it?
Speaker 1: Should I do it? And I never was iffy about
Speaker 1: playing ball. That's because I love a game of football,
Speaker 1: you know. And once I felt like I was iffy
Speaker 1: if you about playing I just told him I wasn't
Speaker 1: ready for it right now, and and that was it. Man.
Speaker 1: Then I went to the coach and I told him, ay,
Speaker 1: I might you know, I might want to start training
Speaker 1: and he can not get a fight. Then I called
Speaker 1: hi up. I called him up boy monkey who got
Speaker 1: Tyron Willie the fight with J Paul. He was like,
Speaker 1: are you serious? And I showed him like my my
Speaker 1: test messages were like it was partly three teams called.
Speaker 1: I showed him like, I was like telling him I
Speaker 1: won't ready, and he was like, okay, I'm you get
Speaker 1: in shape and we'll make it happen. And it's um
Speaker 1: the shaid my eighteen, it's here real quick before before
Speaker 1: we get in. You touched on something obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: me and Jack. I stepped away of seventeen. I think
Speaker 1: Jack stepped away. When did you step away Jack? Fifteen? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you you kind of take for granted, You
Speaker 1: forget what normal life is like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like the ship that we didn't ever have time for.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know us as basketball and you've got
Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean holiday seasons or football, holiday
Speaker 1: season for us or basketball. So we missed so much
Speaker 1: of just the regular day to day. Then the father, Man,
Speaker 1: like the best thing. I'm being real and I look
Speaker 1: back and the best thing happened to me. Bro. I
Speaker 1: didn't go to training camp because I got a chance
Speaker 1: to be a a father. And I mean like a father,
Speaker 1: like doing everyday things for my kids, my lady, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and like getting up, going to school,
Speaker 1: taking my kids to school. Like all my boys played football.
Speaker 1: They're real good. You know. I seeing my kids. You know,
Speaker 1: I go to practice. You know they see me on
Speaker 1: the sideline, even coaching that time. You know they happen.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Then I got me. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you know on Saturday, Friday nights, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm more exsided, you know, more inside than them. Man.
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I'm starting to enjoy it.
Speaker 1: And I'm being real man me how much I love football, bro.
Speaker 1: And that's y'all probably felt the same when you when
Speaker 1: you when you played past ten Man that you know
Speaker 1: you can't do a favor, bro, and you kind of
Speaker 1: get scared because you been on this, on this it's
Speaker 1: it's scheduling for so long. Man. And once once I
Speaker 1: told the team that I wasn't ready, and I was okay,
Speaker 1: but not going back. Man, I felt so good, like
Speaker 1: because I used to be so scared, especially with football.
Speaker 1: Once you get ten man, you get ten years in
Speaker 1: that's a blessing. And and and you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that they always trying to find younger guys, especially
Speaker 1: at my pages. I was about to say, especially in
Speaker 1: your position. So man, I've been I've been blastom in
Speaker 1: a good space, man, because I see a lot of guys,
Speaker 1: man who you know playing the NFL. Man, once they've done, Bro,
Speaker 1: we funked up in the head, man, And yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And I used to be thinking like Bro, like what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do? What I'm done, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But man, I'm in a great place and I'm I
Speaker 1: felt so good that Monday when when I told him
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready and I felt okay with it. Man,
Speaker 1: I was fucking happy as hell. But I never I
Speaker 1: didn't think I'd be like that. Bro. Yeah, No, it's
Speaker 1: a dope feeling being at peace with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's my thing too. Like my I have twin boys
Speaker 1: and I coached them, so those are like my games.
Speaker 1: That's why I can't come to your fight because we
Speaker 1: got another tournament. I just got back from Arizona yesterday.
Speaker 1: We got another turnam and next week. And but that's
Speaker 1: kind of like my excitement. I'd be more excited than
Speaker 1: and ready for the games and them i'd be coaching them.
Speaker 1: But it's just that different because we missed so much
Speaker 1: of that while we're playing. And obviously it's our job
Speaker 1: and everything, but you forget the normal life in the
Speaker 1: fatherhood and the family ship. So I'm glad you at
Speaker 1: peace with that, because because it's a motherfucker if you're
Speaker 1: not what's your train what? What does your training look like? Um?
Speaker 1: As a boxer, obviously that long in the NFL, you
Speaker 1: use training to stay in shape. But what is now
Speaker 1: that you're just strictly training the box? How many days
Speaker 1: a week, how many times a day? I'm six six
Speaker 1: days a week almost. I chill Sundays, I run, I
Speaker 1: do drill. I kind of still do my football drills
Speaker 1: before I boss, because you know, I didn't know if
Speaker 1: I still want to play or not, and you know,
Speaker 1: I still want to keep my quick twitch and burgers
Speaker 1: and everything. And I think you know that still helped
Speaker 1: me in the Boston re you know, my movement just
Speaker 1: because of the position I played. Um So I would
Speaker 1: do that. In the morning, I'll do that and wanting
Speaker 1: at nine, I go home and rest for like two
Speaker 1: or three hours, and I come back in Boss. I
Speaker 1: come back in Boss. Then once I've done Boston, I
Speaker 1: chilled about eight o'clock and then I do rope I do.
Speaker 1: I go job, man, And that's probably the hardest thing
Speaker 1: for me because in football you don't have the job.
Speaker 1: You know, we do a lot of splosive stuff like
Speaker 1: spreads and stuff. So that was the toughest thing for him.
Speaker 1: I would say jogging, but I got out to like
Speaker 1: four or five miles and then I started liking it.
Speaker 1: You know, m h, how much you weighing right now?
Speaker 1: I waited in the day. I waited at tweet eleven damn. Okay.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, man, I played like to seventeen
Speaker 1: to twenty. You know, I was young, so I didn't
Speaker 1: really take the serious like eating eating good. Once I
Speaker 1: got up in age and I realized that, you know,
Speaker 1: it was one game, bro man. I funked around trying
Speaker 1: to go out. I had all my boys come out
Speaker 1: to the baby, right I was probably like Niney'll do
Speaker 1: it to you too, And so you know, hollow, it's Halloween.
Speaker 1: So I had all my little home boys come up
Speaker 1: from a neighborhood. Like it was about ten over. Man,
Speaker 1: Halloween fell on the Friday. Man, I go out, bro,
Speaker 1: you know the barrier clothes, you know, you know boys
Speaker 1: come from down South. They coming down South. They used
Speaker 1: to club clothing like five o'clock. So so it's a Friday,
Speaker 1: I go out, so mona club closing there too. They
Speaker 1: looking at me crazy. So right now I got so
Speaker 1: so you know me, I'm you know, I'm i'd be
Speaker 1: cool because I don't did it before. Man, I had.
Speaker 1: I had, like you know, I had the party to
Speaker 1: come to the crew. You know how my you know
Speaker 1: that my boys how to do their thing. Man, that's Sunday. Bro.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I couldn't get my team nothing. Man. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know, you know you see a whole, you thought
Speaker 1: you hit the whole, and you think somebody hit your lip.
Speaker 1: Then when you watch him your motherfucking trip over the
Speaker 1: grass or some ship. Bro Bro from that game on, Bro,
Speaker 1: I had. That's when I started, just like I had
Speaker 1: a tighten down on my nutritioning and I thought, party
Speaker 1: isn't doing a week. But if it's not, um, I
Speaker 1: didn't go out. If it's not a Sunday after the game,
Speaker 1: I'm not going out. I wan't drinking or not after that.
Speaker 1: But um, well, when I was like younger, I should
Speaker 1: played like two seventeen, two or twenty. But once I
Speaker 1: got once, I got up in age man and realized
Speaker 1: that I had to come down and if if I
Speaker 1: wanted to play, I started playing like that two a week.
Speaker 1: The last I played that was two or four girl,
Speaker 1: and I felt good at it. Should you was in
Speaker 1: the U was in the bay to say we were
Speaker 1: out there the same time as you would. Golden State
Speaker 1: just came out hung I don't I don't hung out
Speaker 1: with Stephen Jackson. Man was about I don't hung out
Speaker 1: hung out with him. Yeah we got wet it in. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we could have definitely got your your your nightlife immune
Speaker 1: system cracking big facts man. Yeah you said you started
Speaker 1: boxing at two and two thousand it right, yep, okay,
Speaker 1: even boxing two thousands. You started boxing two thousand six, right,
Speaker 1: But I was I won't say if I was training
Speaker 1: for like footballer, get in shape. But this song this's
Speaker 1: eight weeks right here. Man, it was this this this
Speaker 1: Boston ship for real, man, Like I'm gonna be real.
Speaker 1: I would never call a guy sorry in the sports
Speaker 1: who ever trying to get a living from Boston? Man,
Speaker 1: because this ship real, bro, being real. I mean the
Speaker 1: first week and I started, Bro, I'm like, man, what
Speaker 1: the funk I got myself into? Man? Man, it's training tough, bro.
Speaker 1: That's why, Man, I take my hat to the guys
Speaker 1: who who getting a living from Boston? Man? Because this
Speaker 1: ship real? How did Darren become an opponent? Come about? Though? Um?
Speaker 1: This is what happened, you know, my boy Markey. They
Speaker 1: called him with a couple of opponents like UFC fighters
Speaker 1: and stuff, and you know they backed out J Paul.
Speaker 1: People hit up Darren because they said he used to
Speaker 1: do him and maybe he wanted to fight. Man. My
Speaker 1: coach were trying to find like footage, you know, and
Speaker 1: we couldn't find no footage. You know. So you know me, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm gonna study. I like to study.
Speaker 1: I left like in my game, like like I watched
Speaker 1: film like a motherfucker, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I watched my lock blackers who physical for mass you know,
Speaker 1: just for you know how you know, I'm just for
Speaker 1: like motherfucker bliss. I got to attack this motherfucker. This
Speaker 1: motherfucker's soft. I got, you know, hug this hugg hu
Speaker 1: the top of ass and the saw of that saw.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I like to watch
Speaker 1: film and my coach when when he said Darren took
Speaker 1: the fight, you want to do it, my coach weren't
Speaker 1: really sure about it because he was like this your
Speaker 1: first fight. And then when you read up you see
Speaker 1: here around m M A guys, you know hear in
Speaker 1: the pro drium, you know, and you know he around
Speaker 1: pros even though you know I'm bearing around Boston. I
Speaker 1: want never around pros until the last eight weeks to
Speaker 1: these last eight weeks, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: it was when I got something on my Instagram, like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing something like like shot of Boston.
Speaker 1: There was like who who want to get in the
Speaker 1: ring with Frank Gore. Then he went on my Instagram
Speaker 1: and said, oh, I'll do it. So I but mya
Speaker 1: was on the plane. So when I could get off
Speaker 1: the plane, I see my dog, fred t I said
Speaker 1: this serious. It was something like, man, Darren Win. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't serious, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Then I look at you know, I'm going on my Instagram,
Speaker 1: and I saw him being like, oh, I get in
Speaker 1: up with you. I'm like, hold up, bro, like you know,
Speaker 1: so I hit my coach up. I say, coach man,
Speaker 1: what you're thinking? He said, you know, I see, I'll
Speaker 1: let you know what's up. So I'm at the hotel.
Speaker 1: I get all my family calling because I wanted to um,
Speaker 1: Mississippi to go see my son played. Um that's the mess.
Speaker 1: I was going to see him play. So man, you know,
Speaker 1: I little challenges, you know what I'm saying. So I'm
Speaker 1: in the bed. Bro, my coach having called, you know,
Speaker 1: he having called. It's on a Friday night. So I
Speaker 1: called him back. I say, coach man, what you're thinking? Man?
Speaker 1: He said, if you with it, I'm with it. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm with it, man, I said, I said, Man, Darren
Speaker 1: you know went on my Instagram and they probably you know,
Speaker 1: meet me and Darren You're a cool dude. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie man good super solid. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When I met him at the presser,
Speaker 1: he was real cool, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, you know showtime party, you know, told him,
Speaker 1: you know, challenge me because my coachman's share, like should
Speaker 1: we do it? And once I saw it, that out like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I think I want to do this. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. He was like, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: got no foota, but I say that, just make it
Speaker 1: about us, you know what I'm saying. And he was like, okay, cool. Damn.
Speaker 1: I got home. Then I got on the grinds. So
Speaker 1: so we're saying all that, what do you want to
Speaker 1: prove from this? Like do you want to make this
Speaker 1: a second career? I don't. I don't know, man. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta see if I like it. Bro.
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's a trial. This is a a trial
Speaker 1: for you. I want to see if I like it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be real of training tough man.
Speaker 1: I gotta be real myself. Man, I'm thirty eight years old,
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I also got you know, I got
Speaker 1: my kids, bro, Like my kids play ball at high level,
Speaker 1: you know, so I enjoy that. And once I took
Speaker 1: the fight. I couldn't even see his last couple of games.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying at home games, So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see how to go that night, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, I'm very I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to Saturday because I'm you know, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 1: I'm don't I'm nervous about it because something new, but
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about it. I know I trained my
Speaker 1: ass off for it. But we'll see, man, we'll see.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the best to ever doing. Mike
Speaker 1: Tyson saved you. If you're not nervous, you're not ready.
Speaker 1: Now you're right, I feel man, I was nervous my
Speaker 1: whole system, every game system, exactly exactly. Thoughts on the
Speaker 1: first that you were you someone that's been kind of
Speaker 1: following the Jake Paul fights and all that, kind of
Speaker 1: like non boxer boxing. Have you? Were you into that
Speaker 1: before this opportunity presented itself My first time when I
Speaker 1: saw Jake Paul, I saw it with the head give.
Speaker 1: Then I saw him down here and Miami for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl he had for this YouTuber. When I saw
Speaker 1: him that night, I told my coach and the coach
Speaker 1: would train me right now. I told him I would
Speaker 1: be I would have beat him that night. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying me. He's looking at him now, I
Speaker 1: will say, you could tell he took he took it serious,
Speaker 1: and he did every fight. I see now he got better. Man.
Speaker 1: I respect what he's doing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But when I first saw him the night and they
Speaker 1: put fourth down here at the super Bowl, I felt
Speaker 1: like I would have beat him that night on what
Speaker 1: he was at and what I was at at that time.
Speaker 1: Thoughts thoughts on Paul Woodley too, Like you said, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people initially thinking he's a certain way.
Speaker 1: But to me, I respect the fact because I trained
Speaker 1: two for basketball from boxing. I know how hard that
Speaker 1: ship is, you know, Woodley being a season m M
Speaker 1: a champion. Thoughts on this rematch. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good one, you know, I think he would
Speaker 1: be good one because what he don't felt his power.
Speaker 1: I go back and forth with it because I don't
Speaker 1: know how hard what he was training, you know, because
Speaker 1: he didn't know he was gonna fight or not. I
Speaker 1: talked to him, like last week, he said he'd been
Speaker 1: he is in shape, So I think it would be
Speaker 1: a good one because you know, E don't felt what
Speaker 1: Paul got, you know what saying. But I know me
Speaker 1: me falling and j Paul. I know that like me
Speaker 1: seeing him each fight, he got better and better. So
Speaker 1: I think he'll come in better than last time. So
Speaker 1: I think I think it'll be shot, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I think, you know, hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: Willie could come in shape and him feeling what he
Speaker 1: felt last time and you know, confidence better. Oh, I
Speaker 1: think it'll be a good one for real. I agreed, agreed.
Speaker 1: Have you and d Will? You know they made some
Speaker 1: little side bets before the fight. Have you a d
Speaker 1: Will made any kind of bets or anything like that?
Speaker 1: Anything fun? Yet? No? Now, now we've just been talking
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, hearing there um he checked
Speaker 1: on me how my body feeling and ship like that,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know we grind. It's a grind, man,
Speaker 1: it's a grind and but no sod bet, you know,
Speaker 1: like like I tell that body, you know, winning loses
Speaker 1: a drow man. This is what I wanted to do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know I'm going
Speaker 1: there and you know, do what then my coaches got
Speaker 1: our game plan and go from there. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is your first fight. You're throwing into the fire. You
Speaker 1: know you should you you fight on showtime pay per view,
Speaker 1: You pick your ring soon to walk out to you
Speaker 1: got anybody coming out there? What you would? Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna coming out. I'm gonna come with my kids. Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm gonna be real. Man. Any they're having
Speaker 1: this men, you know they're gonna be behind you no
Speaker 1: matter what. So I haven't picked my son yet. You
Speaker 1: know what I've been. I've been wrapped and focused. Man,
Speaker 1: I've been talking. I've been tuned, tuned down and training
Speaker 1: and trying to you know, be ready for this fight.
Speaker 1: Because man, one thing about me. You know when I
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna do something giving give him all, and
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not trying to make myself for like
Speaker 1: no food. You know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: walk out there with my kids. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Get my kids hug and the kiss and let's go
Speaker 1: to one thing. One thing I know about you, bro,
Speaker 1: from from me knowing you. That's one thing You've always
Speaker 1: been You've always been to yourself. You've always been an
Speaker 1: even kill. You know what I'm saying. You never got
Speaker 1: too high. You never got too low. Even with having
Speaker 1: a career, you having a succession, had you never you
Speaker 1: never seen you come out and to do an interview
Speaker 1: or something too high to know you've always been. That's
Speaker 1: one thing I've always respected about your bro. You've always
Speaker 1: been the same person through everything. And you can't say
Speaker 1: about a lot of people. I've been through too much, man,
Speaker 1: you know, especially you know in college. Man, like at
Speaker 1: the time one of the University of Miami, when we
Speaker 1: got porters, we got every read we got sean Teller,
Speaker 1: we got you know, asrail role Andre Johnson. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, bro, And at the time, coming
Speaker 1: out of high school, I had a by school say
Speaker 1: I'll go out there and play. And I decided to
Speaker 1: go to a school to tell me that I had
Speaker 1: to red shirt, you know what I'm saying, And me
Speaker 1: me going there and playing at that time, you know,
Speaker 1: and being like a freshman all American brod at that time,
Speaker 1: the school told me I read straight with all them guys.
Speaker 1: You know. Imagine you go at that time and ball out.
Speaker 1: Then that next year spring practice, supposed to be the
Speaker 1: man you tell your knee up in spring practice. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Then you come back. My boyfriend mcgaye,
Speaker 1: he got in and you know, almost want the hospital.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I'll I bost have
Speaker 1: been the guy that year, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then I come back. First five six games, Bro,
Speaker 1: I get over hunted. I'm only back to get like
Speaker 1: you know, first, you know hunter yards each game. Then
Speaker 1: I go take out you know the insurance, think of
Speaker 1: ahead of tom. Then that next week I tell my
Speaker 1: second name different, differently different, all right. So it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: like that that made me have to be like listening.
Speaker 1: Whatever meant for me gonna be before me. So I
Speaker 1: just I gotta taken one day at a time, man.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, I don't look ahead
Speaker 1: of time. Man, when whenever I'm out there or whatever
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, I gotta give him all that what
Speaker 1: made me change, bro to play sixteen years after that?
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Talk to us about your recruiting process highly recruited, uh,
Speaker 1: and what made you stay home? Um? Well, I committed
Speaker 1: to I committed to Old Miss. I changed the night
Speaker 1: before sign a day really, you know, I changed the
Speaker 1: night before. Side of the day. I was outside till
Speaker 1: with my homeboys and stuff, and car pulled up the
Speaker 1: name coach t J. Curtis Johnson, coach at on the
Speaker 1: onance right now, I committed. So it was big in Miami,
Speaker 1: you know, or the best player in Miami going to
Speaker 1: Old Miss. He pulled up, he pulled up. We all
Speaker 1: outside schilling. You know what I'm saying, getting ready, you know, celebrating.
Speaker 1: He pulled up. He called me to the car. Man.
Speaker 1: He called me to the car. He's like, hey, he
Speaker 1: pulled him be the best player out of Miami, right
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm the best play out of Miami.
Speaker 1: He was like, so the best player put to stay home.
Speaker 1: He was like, what you scared to compete? What you
Speaker 1: scared of porters? What you scared of willis what you
Speaker 1: scared j I said, no, I ain't scarta nobody. I said,
Speaker 1: I ain't scotta nobody. He said, Dune, why do you
Speaker 1: want to call to Miami? If you do the best,
Speaker 1: you'll play with the best. And when he said that,
Speaker 1: I said, you know what I'm coming and he thought
Speaker 1: I was playing and I called in that morning. You
Speaker 1: know my mom. My mom wanted me to stay home
Speaker 1: too because she was sick too. She was sick, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I called it this morning.
Speaker 1: I called my high school cause I say I'm going
Speaker 1: to Miami. And he was like surprised, like he's like,
Speaker 1: you sure, I said I'm going to Miami and he
Speaker 1: and I said, I love him to I still love him,
Speaker 1: but you know, we kind of fell out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying at the time, because he didn't want
Speaker 1: me to go to Miami because I don't know why,
Speaker 1: even like they got TV back. But I'm like broke,
Speaker 1: I said, cool, you put to believe in me. Man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't did all this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that it ain't no system,
Speaker 1: it's you know what I'm saying. I know you got
Speaker 1: a good system, but still you know, no, no systems
Speaker 1: don't give no eleven games twenty nine hundred yards and
Speaker 1: know eleven games in Dad County, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I felt like, you know, he didn't believe in me.
Speaker 1: So we started. We didn't talk for a couple of months. Man,
Speaker 1: So I my mom was happy. So I said, we're
Speaker 1: going to Miami. The next day, my whole family go
Speaker 1: to my high school. On they called Miami and said, hey,
Speaker 1: Frank Switch, he said, coming from there. And I just
Speaker 1: started grinding, man, because you know, I old myself and say, listen,
Speaker 1: this is the only school took told me I d
Speaker 1: shirt and I was like, man, I'm from Miami. I
Speaker 1: can't you know. And I respect Mom, I respect Porters.
Speaker 1: I was belt well us, I respect Naja Peyton, but
Speaker 1: I just felt like, man, I can't come home, Bro,
Speaker 1: I can't sit the bench. I never said the bench
Speaker 1: on in the football on the football field. And once
Speaker 1: I got there, Bro, I was bawling. Man, I was
Speaker 1: balling the progness. And the best thing happened that my dog, Porters,
Speaker 1: he was sick for like a week, and I got
Speaker 1: the chance to go to once and twols early, like
Speaker 1: early in camp. And that's when they realized that this
Speaker 1: I'm for real. You know what I'm saying. You just
Speaker 1: named three running backs that all went on to the
Speaker 1: NFL and has successful careers. You named a bunch of
Speaker 1: dudes earlier. Uh. They were also on that team obviously
Speaker 1: rest in pe Sean Taylor. What was your college experience? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're after you. You know, you guys had
Speaker 1: a lot of success in the early eighties. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to bring that tradition back. You guys were able
Speaker 1: to win a national championship while you're there. But what
Speaker 1: was that experience like for you? Getting any any memorable
Speaker 1: stories you want to share with us? Man, you had
Speaker 1: to bring it every day. You didn't bring it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not planning what I'm saying. And when I got there,
Speaker 1: I felt like college football is easy just because the
Speaker 1: guys we had to go and compete with in practice. Man,
Speaker 1: practice was so fast. Oh man, then not get in
Speaker 1: the game and I'm like, damn ship like high school.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm you know That's why
Speaker 1: I was like my Freshmania Man, I was killing it.
Speaker 1: Though I probably had like sixty carry like seven eight
Speaker 1: hundred yards. Man, you know what I'm saying. Porter has
Speaker 1: had Like so I would say, Man, we had to
Speaker 1: bring it every day, we had to go to class,
Speaker 1: you had to go to because our coach was like,
Speaker 1: you ain't doing the right thing. Yeah, it's not planning
Speaker 1: because we all was good and no matter who we
Speaker 1: put in. And you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: why I'm not gonna lie. Me going to you m
Speaker 1: at the time, me planning the NFL. Man. And you know,
Speaker 1: once you get in the lead, Bro, every year they've
Speaker 1: trying to find somebody to take your job. Bro, me
Speaker 1: one in Miami. And that's why I didn't care about
Speaker 1: who they dropped because I knew, like Bro, I was
Speaker 1: around the best. I don't be around this. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying now that you got pushed in college.
Speaker 1: A lot of mothers don't get pushed they get to
Speaker 1: the league. You got that same kind of because you
Speaker 1: had three mother fuck the NFL running backs right next
Speaker 1: to you. I mean you you you spoke on it earlier.
Speaker 1: Uh knee surgery coming into your sophomore year, come back
Speaker 1: another need surgery. I think you also had a shoulder surgery.
Speaker 1: What did all that due to you? Mentally? And how
Speaker 1: were you physically able to overcome that and still have
Speaker 1: the career you had in college? My second Needgrey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be real. I went to my running back coach,
Speaker 1: coach Sergeant, I said, Coach Man I wanted. I really
Speaker 1: wanted to give up, bro, because I'm like, God, like, what, like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? I'm I'm living right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Um, you know, trying to do all the
Speaker 1: right things. And this happened. So I went to my
Speaker 1: running back coach. I said, a coach, my, I think
Speaker 1: football not for me. He said, You're fucking crazy. He said, huh, bro,
Speaker 1: you're the most notre is back. I don't soul being brown.
Speaker 1: He was like, We're just gonna have to have a
Speaker 1: game plan for you. He was like, UM, you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna You're gonna start, but we're gonna have a rotation,
Speaker 1: you know, for you for you can try to you know,
Speaker 1: offence the year and get back to yourself. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you leave, you leave, you come back, you come back.
Speaker 1: So during that year earlier one, I wasn't myself. I
Speaker 1: was like seven months I of surgery. The first game
Speaker 1: we played against Florida State, So I wasn't myself. You know,
Speaker 1: I want confidence, I want feeling myself. I want to
Speaker 1: feeling like myself. So as the game after year went on,
Speaker 1: like they started saying that I'm getting back to me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But I was kind of
Speaker 1: out of shape because I couldn't train, I couldn't do
Speaker 1: nothing rehab. You know, you know, you know when you're
Speaker 1: scratching man, you I was drinking, man, So I kind
Speaker 1: of that that dog liquor put put put that weight
Speaker 1: on you, so you know. So so I'm kind of heavy.
Speaker 1: But you know, by the by the middle to the
Speaker 1: end of the seat, they saw like, okay, he getting
Speaker 1: back to herself. And I remember the last we played
Speaker 1: in Florida, and I remember me and my mom and
Speaker 1: after the game in the hotel, I finished like with
Speaker 1: nah something I said, man, because I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I stay healthy, I'm leaving. I don't give a funk.
Speaker 1: So I said, Mom, gone, man, and the coaches came
Speaker 1: to my house a whole week. The child made me
Speaker 1: stay in school because it was like my coaches were
Speaker 1: scared because my juries, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: there was like, oh, you might gonna get drafted. You know,
Speaker 1: you might go later on then you got you know,
Speaker 1: it's not guaranteed. My mom was like, I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk. Right round you go, She said, if y'all
Speaker 1: not tell him, if y'all not telling him to leave.
Speaker 1: You don't come back to your new more. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't. I said. She was like,
Speaker 1: I know what my baby can do once you get healthy.
Speaker 1: And she was right. Bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So um, but that that did a lot. Man made
Speaker 1: me made you know, believe, don't listen to nobody. Man,
Speaker 1: And I tell a kid, even me taking this fight.
Speaker 1: You know, I hear people what's wrong? He's crazy? What
Speaker 1: are you're trying to due to his head? Man, you
Speaker 1: want to do something, you do it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Don't listen to nobody who tells you what
Speaker 1: you know what you can't do, because I don't heart that.
Speaker 1: So many times since I was a kid, since I
Speaker 1: was you know, I my knee Andrew. They told me
Speaker 1: I won't have been in the league three years. Man,
Speaker 1: if I would, if I believe it, I won't, I would't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been in the league. But I know,
Speaker 1: I don't care what people say. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: They try to judge me, or when you're trying, you
Speaker 1: can't run no more. I got seven eight thousand yards
Speaker 1: after I turned three. You know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: don't and I tell people and I don't let them
Speaker 1: jumpe you off because another man couldn't do it. You
Speaker 1: just can be different, you know what I'm saying. A
Speaker 1: long as you love what you're doing and and and
Speaker 1: have the people though that that has something to say,
Speaker 1: never and never played the game, bro. But but they're jealous.
Speaker 1: But they're jealous of the confidence and the skill you have.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You have another confidence to
Speaker 1: do anything and put your mind to do anything that
Speaker 1: you say you can do a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: have that. So that's what they hate. It ain't there.
Speaker 1: They hate you. They envy the confidence that you're in
Speaker 1: the belief that you have in yourself. That's what I
Speaker 1: had to learn, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that's it right there. They're projecting that negative energy because
Speaker 1: they couldn't do it. They can't do it, that's all
Speaker 1: it is. Looking back on your college career, you know
Speaker 1: you want the National Championship Bowl games records broken. What's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing you took from your experience while you
Speaker 1: were in Miami. I don't like, like my freshman year
Speaker 1: we won my freshman year. You know, I was happy.
Speaker 1: But you know it's a different when you when you're
Speaker 1: the guy. You know what I'm saying. So you know
Speaker 1: I was. I was excited about you know when the championship.
Speaker 1: But you know how it was, man, were you really
Speaker 1: planned planning? Like you you appreciate it even more, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But Man, what I like, just
Speaker 1: I was happy I went there just being around top
Speaker 1: guys man, just being around I like just being around
Speaker 1: every the Sean Teller's um. Just being around top guys man,
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's me being around guys man like
Speaker 1: that helped my help my career. Man, they don't care
Speaker 1: about who who at the next level. Who are the
Speaker 1: people talking about who this and who that? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like they got to show me, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I say, like me
Speaker 1: being on all them guys at my time, bro, Man,
Speaker 1: that helped me so much, Bro and my my my
Speaker 1: pro career. Being drafted in two thousand five, picked six
Speaker 1: in the third round, did you expect to go higher?
Speaker 1: And how did it feel to be drafted overall? I know,
Speaker 1: coming where I'm from, how big it was. I didn't
Speaker 1: care where I went. I just wanted to be drafted
Speaker 1: and get an opportunity. But did you expect to go higher?
Speaker 1: Who I had had teams called that day. It's like
Speaker 1: you was in the second round. If we if you're
Speaker 1: there at the second, we're gonna take you. And you
Speaker 1: know when they I was there on the second but
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't take me. They didn't take me.
Speaker 1: So no, I when I got dropped, I was excited
Speaker 1: because when I had to go through to get there,
Speaker 1: But I cried, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 1: cried because and not knocking the guys who went before me,
Speaker 1: because I knew, like the three guys you know at
Speaker 1: the time, like because you know you when you're coming out,
Speaker 1: you you see everything, you know, like the when Ronnie
Speaker 1: Brown going to God Bless his soul, satire basins going
Speaker 1: full Kliac going five. So I know there was gonna
Speaker 1: go in front of me. So the next tier was
Speaker 1: gonna be it was out of me. J. J Arrington,
Speaker 1: Um me J J Arrington, Eric Eric Schlson and um.
Speaker 1: You know, I was okay because of my injuries about
Speaker 1: the first three. But when I saw and I'm not
Speaker 1: not knocking the guys because you know, I felt, you know,
Speaker 1: there was good players. But when I saw J. J.
Speaker 1: Arrington go to Arizona early in the first round, and
Speaker 1: I saw Eric Chelton go late pick to Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: and and I remember Dan Walgan coming out to you
Speaker 1: and be like, well, I told my you know the
Speaker 1: drive you And when they took another guy who I
Speaker 1: felt like I was better, you know, better than but
Speaker 1: you know, all these my injury so but I cried,
Speaker 1: and you know, like when you get dropped like that
Speaker 1: first year, you know the first round was gonna get that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna play. And I told myself that after this
Speaker 1: first year, the guys, them guys like the top three
Speaker 1: who went in front of me, I thought, I thought,
Speaker 1: I thought that first year they wouldn't they would not
Speaker 1: outdo me. No more. I was like, I'm my goal
Speaker 1: was to be the best running back, one of the
Speaker 1: best players in my drift class. And I just and
Speaker 1: I wanted to be the last man standard like everybody,
Speaker 1: like all the bats. And I was blessed to do it. Man, absolutely,
Speaker 1: What was your rookie season, like, what what best did
Speaker 1: you lean on? In your rookie season. I didn't really
Speaker 1: need no one, man, because I had I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I was around porters, I was round you know, e j.
Speaker 1: I'm still come back to the school. So I didn't
Speaker 1: really need nothing, man, I was. I'm being real, man,
Speaker 1: and I'm not taking another from Kevin Barlow. Man. But Bro,
Speaker 1: I was coming in. Man, I gotta get it. Man. Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, you know this six seven hundred
Speaker 1: dollars ain't good enough for him. Man, I'm saying I
Speaker 1: could buy mom. I couldn't buy my mom my house
Speaker 1: right away, you know what I'm saying. So she still
Speaker 1: had to be in the hood, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying for like a year or two. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I came in up. I led the
Speaker 1: team in Russian, but I only started one game, damn.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I came into my mindset. Bro.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, you know, I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: show these people because they already called me injury prone.
Speaker 1: Um you know they you know, and I want to
Speaker 1: show them. They were telling them, Oh, they reached for
Speaker 1: me in the drive. They should have waited the later
Speaker 1: to pick me. So my mind set, Bay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be the best one is drift class. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, whoever san Fran pick and oh man,
Speaker 1: you look back down? They said, no question? What was
Speaker 1: y'all welcome to the NFL moment? Oh, it should have been.
Speaker 1: It should have been when we played the Red Skins. Bro,
Speaker 1: it should have been we played the Red Scars when
Speaker 1: I hit the whole and I jumped and Sean Teller
Speaker 1: saw me. I went to that. I said, Bro, you
Speaker 1: you didn't hit me because I'm from the you dog,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He just started smiling and stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: But it should have been that game. It should have
Speaker 1: been that game because I jumped in the hole. He
Speaker 1: filled it. But he kind of like those like you
Speaker 1: know obviously you know, opposite direction, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he speak to him, uh for a moment. Because he
Speaker 1: was just such a talent and you hear nothing but
Speaker 1: great stories about him. What was he like as a person,
Speaker 1: as a teammate and then just as a brother? Man? Really,
Speaker 1: so I've been on Sean like in Miami, like when
Speaker 1: you're a dog and your boss park wanting you know everybody.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I've been compete with
Speaker 1: Sean teller and trailer like with his kids. Man, So
Speaker 1: I've been knowing him. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: Sean the first guy in high school. Man, And I
Speaker 1: tell I, I tell people, and I was a dog
Speaker 1: in high school. He was the first. He was going
Speaker 1: to kill it. It was the public school. Well listen,
Speaker 1: ten grade. He was the first. First one in high
Speaker 1: school hit me one time, man on the sideline. I
Speaker 1: went on the bleachers. So so so you know, you
Speaker 1: know that, you know how that that you know how
Speaker 1: that like that next year come, I didn't know he transferred,
Speaker 1: so they put another talk guy in the same jersey,
Speaker 1: you know. But so I'm looking over, I'm like, Man,
Speaker 1: what this motherfucker at Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But Bro, one of the best football player of assault.
Speaker 1: Can play anything on the football field. Dog. You can
Speaker 1: put him at Coner. He's gonna play it running black linebacker. Bro.
Speaker 1: And if he fought with me, he fought with your
Speaker 1: mind like he like real, real dude, real dude. Rest
Speaker 1: in peace, man. Yeah. He actually he died the same
Speaker 1: day as my mom. Jack the same day. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah. Yeah, So two thousand and seven, you
Speaker 1: signed a contract extension, get real money for the first time. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then a couple of days after that, you lose
Speaker 1: your mom. And obviously that the common theme throughout this
Speaker 1: whole interviewed as far as you were doing everything for
Speaker 1: your mom, so you finally get in a position to
Speaker 1: have some real money and you you lose her. So
Speaker 1: talk about being on a high note and then obviously
Speaker 1: losing your best friend in the world. I was. I
Speaker 1: was hurt because I wanted her to enjoy this, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because I saw, you know,
Speaker 1: not just taking care of her kids, taking care of
Speaker 1: my cousins. You know, her sisters, um. You know, like
Speaker 1: I told Joe, like we came up together. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like like her sister standing in the house,
Speaker 1: her brother, um, standing in the house with us in
Speaker 1: the one bedroom department. So I saw, like I told you,
Speaker 1: I always had a good thank you. I always had
Speaker 1: to thank ahead of Tom and I still do that. Then,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So me losing her, man,
Speaker 1: And you know, you can't question God, you can't. But
Speaker 1: I was bro I was man because I wanted to
Speaker 1: give her everything, you know what I'm saying, because she
Speaker 1: deserved it. Man. You know I bought she got a
Speaker 1: chance that you know, I bought our house. Um, I
Speaker 1: bought her a car. But she only was able to
Speaker 1: see me play one game, you know, come one game
Speaker 1: and that was a that year. She promised me that
Speaker 1: she was gonna fly to Thomas San Francis and me play,
Speaker 1: and you know it didn't happen. So um, you know, um,
Speaker 1: so I was hurried, bro Man, Rest in peace to Mobs,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Two thousand and six is your breakout season?
Speaker 1: Followed up in two thousand and seven, have another great
Speaker 1: year in two thousand and eight, and to become the
Speaker 1: first running back in the history to rush for three
Speaker 1: straight thousand yards seasons that you continue to acquire these
Speaker 1: you know, these records early on, what is what is
Speaker 1: going through your mind? I just wanted to keep getting
Speaker 1: better and better, you know, like I wanted the guys
Speaker 1: that I didn't want to get I wanted to guy.
Speaker 1: Just wanted to just get to the NFL. You know,
Speaker 1: I wanted once I got to taste of being good,
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep it going. And you know, and
Speaker 1: that's why I say, like when I back and when
Speaker 1: I got the time when I didn't go to camp,
Speaker 1: you know, I saw how much I missed with my
Speaker 1: kids because you know once you once you do something great,
Speaker 1: you want to keep doing something great and you kind
Speaker 1: of forget because I and I take my heads off
Speaker 1: to my girl, man for let me do it. You know,
Speaker 1: I used to train my ass off, like my training day, bro,
Speaker 1: I in the morning. In the morning, I trained for
Speaker 1: football guy just to see my competition, you know, because
Speaker 1: you know I probably want the fastest, I probably want
Speaker 1: the quickness quickest. But I used to be around with
Speaker 1: guys in the off season. You know, when it's when
Speaker 1: it's my day, like feet work and all that, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be the best. But it's like guys who got
Speaker 1: a long speed, I'm gonna be to the next guy
Speaker 1: who the best at that just because they're gonna help me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But when I trained in
Speaker 1: the morning, that was just something, you know, just to
Speaker 1: see my my opponents, to see who who I'm competing with.
Speaker 1: It to see what they're good at what they do.
Speaker 1: But man, what used to get me over the talk. Man,
Speaker 1: I had my own football coach at night. That was
Speaker 1: my way to say when I the account, when I'm cold,
Speaker 1: get ready for the season, Like, Bro, I noticed, dude,
Speaker 1: I didn't do what I did. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So my mind said already there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So man, I just bro I bro like when you
Speaker 1: want to be man, well, you want to do great things,
Speaker 1: you gotta have you got you gotta make people think
Speaker 1: you like your mind fucked up? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's who it was. Bro. They'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: you do all this, yeah, because you know once you
Speaker 1: test great this bro, you want to keep it going.
Speaker 1: It's very hard, bro, because some guys when they hear
Speaker 1: the TV talking about you, um how good you is,
Speaker 1: they forget you know what I'm saying. And NFL, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're only get in two years out of the contract.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You've got to make the money.
Speaker 1: So that's my mom set. Well I can't you know,
Speaker 1: look at it if you look back. I've never been cut, bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I've never been cut, man,
Speaker 1: just because a hard you know, all seasons. I took
Speaker 1: it serious. Bro. Yeah, hey, like I tell him, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that, I like, I didn't like
Speaker 1: my other guys, But bro, you know how you supposed
Speaker 1: to be in front of the line when leader. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and in the stretch. I just been in the back
Speaker 1: of the line just to see the guys who want
Speaker 1: who want my spot? Man? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I just like to play a little head games
Speaker 1: in my mind, like before Pridness before. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, before games. I ain't care about that cop
Speaker 1: that captain ship, but I just you know, the thief
Speaker 1: on the team know what. So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The coaches they picked the copy, but they know what.
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying. They know this time,
Speaker 1: crunch time, they're gonna come to the realms, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I didn't really care about that.
Speaker 1: But but you know, every every that's why you've been
Speaker 1: a bill, That's why your future all of fame, and
Speaker 1: that's why you wanted the great ones. Because the great
Speaker 1: ones all have that, they all have a little something
Speaker 1: that's separating them from everybody else. Everybody thought Kobe was different.
Speaker 1: Rest of people. Everybody thought Kobe was what was insane,
Speaker 1: but he was just that in love with the game
Speaker 1: and then that in love with being great. So we
Speaker 1: get it. Me and Matt totally get it. Bro, we
Speaker 1: get it. You signed a contract and stention in twenty
Speaker 1: eleven and for the first time in your career when
Speaker 1: you got a chance to go to the playoffs? Was
Speaker 1: a locker room different that season? Want to the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Of course it was? It was. It was it was
Speaker 1: like a family, man. You know, like how like NFL teams,
Speaker 1: You know, it's different than college. You know, college everybody
Speaker 1: you know, you have a couple of people with babies.
Speaker 1: But NFL you've got people married, you got you know,
Speaker 1: the families, and you don't really hang you don't really
Speaker 1: hang out. But our team, Bro, we was and what
Speaker 1: was specially by the team when it was the same guys,
Speaker 1: the core guys when we were the stories one the
Speaker 1: starts team in the league, so we all grew together.
Speaker 1: So we it was like a college you know that
Speaker 1: college feeling like like one person go here, everybody going.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what made us so so special. Man.
Speaker 1: We did everything together, Bro, Like and then and then
Speaker 1: what what what color you was like? Man? Justice Millsale, Bro,
Speaker 1: that's one of the if you're a dog, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna vote with you, bro. Like one thing, I hate pussies. Man.
Speaker 1: You know I'm standing dogs like. But I talked to
Speaker 1: Justice still to date, Bro, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We tried to set trips. So just because you know
Speaker 1: the respect I have for him. Man, Yeah, we had
Speaker 1: we had. We had that and go to stay too.
Speaker 1: Though I didn't want to. I don't want to interrupt
Speaker 1: the nigger. We was in the streets every night together,
Speaker 1: all of us, all of us, and then and then
Speaker 1: still go out and hoop the next day. That's why
Speaker 1: I said, we could have got your your street life
Speaker 1: balance until you can still do your street thing. And
Speaker 1: we did that. Yeah, but I'll be real, when you
Speaker 1: get up an age, boy, it's hard because it's it's
Speaker 1: like anything else. You gotta practice that that drinking. You
Speaker 1: can't take time off from drinking because I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta stay consistent with it. And that's what we was.
Speaker 1: We was with the tree and the drinking. But like
Speaker 1: you said, like once you slow down to stop, it's
Speaker 1: a motherfucker to get back into that mode. So it
Speaker 1: didn't work different for everybody. Okay, my running my running
Speaker 1: back coach, that's that game. I told you on the weekend,
Speaker 1: my boys came up coaches looking not be like, what
Speaker 1: the funk wrong with you? Bro? Man? One of them nights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny. So look, how did it feel to getting
Speaker 1: so close to the NFG championship and to lose eventually
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champions in the Giants? It was tough
Speaker 1: one man, Like I said, because that was the first
Speaker 1: year hardball game. No, we didn't have no all seasons
Speaker 1: and we just had we just come off im sorry
Speaker 1: to do ten. We had a sorry you know, we're sorry,
Speaker 1: and you know two dollar and having no all season
Speaker 1: new coach. You know everybody wrote us off. Man, we
Speaker 1: come out and we just dominated. We just playing one
Speaker 1: of the hardest team and and in the league. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But and I'm gonna be real man,
Speaker 1: like a lot of I know how ball get us.
Speaker 1: You know, people don't like him, but Bro, you hed
Speaker 1: a real deal. Bro Like that was the first time
Speaker 1: I would say, like the court like we really had
Speaker 1: like bro, like audible plays like to get us in
Speaker 1: good situations and people don't know that, Like, Bro, we
Speaker 1: have back. We was younger, we just running running, played
Speaker 1: like no matter what the defense and one hardball Man,
Speaker 1: we uhould go to the novel like three three players,
Speaker 1: bro and um. But once we once we got him, man,
Speaker 1: and we started. You know, I would say it was
Speaker 1: when we beat Philly when they had everybody, when they
Speaker 1: had Michael Vick there, they had a drink, all the
Speaker 1: dream team. Yeah, Bro, we beat they were they were
Speaker 1: there would be enough for four seven going into higher
Speaker 1: time then. But and as a team we used to
Speaker 1: like we used to instead you know when we pulled
Speaker 1: the go in the locker room. How time when you
Speaker 1: were just stuff. But we used to being down non coaches,
Speaker 1: like what the fund you're doing this? Man? So so
Speaker 1: I can I can remember the Philly game. We're going
Speaker 1: to the locker room. Were all looking at each other like, man,
Speaker 1: well for the hobbit. You know what. That was our
Speaker 1: first time going like being down with hardball Bro, him
Speaker 1: and his coaching style. Bro, we're gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: We gotta do this, do that. Bro. We came out, Man,
Speaker 1: we fucking fucking killing boys. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And we just after that, we took off. Man, we
Speaker 1: just took off for a couple of years. Man, two
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, you make it to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: What was that feeling like? Even though you didn't win.
Speaker 1: I know, just a lot of people can't even say
Speaker 1: they experience on Super Bowl? What was that like? That
Speaker 1: was great? The same guys man, who we came up with.
Speaker 1: You know, that's like when when y'all was in Golden State,
Speaker 1: when you know, even when y'all had that run, y'all
Speaker 1: are not gonna on threes. Donald Boy. It's like, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But before that, you know, everybody
Speaker 1: felt like y'all was bad, bad team. Then it's the
Speaker 1: same guys, and now y'all, you know, made the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Then y'all y'all want the first round? Are yeah exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like when you
Speaker 1: you know, being a lot start in the league at
Speaker 1: the time, then now you just click and now you're
Speaker 1: just being you know, you've been dumbinant and everybody you
Speaker 1: know on your on your you know, on you on
Speaker 1: your team. And it's the same guys when when we're sorry.
Speaker 1: That was the best for me, man, Like you still
Speaker 1: had honest mill, we had you know, Patrick Willis, And
Speaker 1: I think I think it was like you know, when
Speaker 1: you're young, you really don't know, you don't know that much.
Speaker 1: But when this, you know, I think you give, you
Speaker 1: give a core gud three to four years. I think
Speaker 1: that's when you see like what you got, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I think they gave was like
Speaker 1: like my faster years together. And that's when we started
Speaker 1: taking off, man, because just go to state just like
Speaker 1: to say, don't keep it. They know you know, you
Speaker 1: know how they open they when they organization started listening
Speaker 1: to the fans. Maybe you get this, yeah bro like
Speaker 1: that like bro, yeah, yeah, realize you got you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta lose, like you said, you all that ship
Speaker 1: helps you win eventually. But I just think we live
Speaker 1: in such an era now or of late probably like
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, where motherfucker's don't stick together. It's
Speaker 1: recycling doors and getting people in and out. But that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl was like a tailor two halves. You guys
Speaker 1: had a rough first half, came back in the second half,
Speaker 1: made it an amazing game. I lost a lot of
Speaker 1: money in that game, but I was right with your
Speaker 1: motherfucker's anyway, What was that? What was that conversation at
Speaker 1: halftime to really flip that switch? Was that somethingbo Hordball?
Speaker 1: Was that something that you guys did yourself talk to
Speaker 1: me about that? I would say it was all of us, man,
Speaker 1: And I think the reason why we did dug ourselves
Speaker 1: in a hole of that because man, we was too cocky, bro,
Speaker 1: like we're watching film on Balstimore Rhythmy was like, no
Speaker 1: one hell they can beat us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think we came out there too cocky, bro, not
Speaker 1: knowing that them guys been there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I think that was the different, Bro, That was
Speaker 1: the different than out of the game started like we
Speaker 1: came on two cocky and we forgot them guys been there,
Speaker 1: like they had raid, they had Yeah, you know, we
Speaker 1: just like watch you know, you know even though Ray
Speaker 1: wasn't Ray, he still got a voice from that team
Speaker 1: that made them guys played at a high level. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what's what was the key to that game, man.
Speaker 1: And I think we didn't I think Coach harthwatches. Just
Speaker 1: never let us watch film. Just this, just that, don't
Speaker 1: watch film. Just what we're gonna do, y'all because once
Speaker 1: we saw film, man were like, man, they had raids
Speaker 1: trying to come and burning. So we were trying to
Speaker 1: go out, you know what I'm saying. Like, and we
Speaker 1: just knew that we was gonna win that game. Man,
Speaker 1: But we got down. You know, we got down and bro,
Speaker 1: have time. I'm gonna be real. The one people don't
Speaker 1: get credit to, man who was a big quart of
Speaker 1: that team with Michael Crowdtree. Bro, Like I'm being real, like, like, bro,
Speaker 1: have time. Man, you would think me, you'd think Pat,
Speaker 1: you think one of us. Bro. He got up, man,
Speaker 1: and hey, what the fun? Man? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And Bro, we just you know, we were so tight. Man,
Speaker 1: didn't matter what who I'm talking to the defense or
Speaker 1: the defense talking to me. It didn't matter, bro, because
Speaker 1: we we know what I'm saying, We was all brothers. Man.
Speaker 1: So well, Michael Proud Tree got up and you know,
Speaker 1: spoke what he's what he's you know, and we just
Speaker 1: we just clicked. Man. Definitely the second half. So you guys,
Speaker 1: you had you mentioned Alex Smith earlier and then Cap
Speaker 1: came about what was that transition from Alex to Cap?
Speaker 1: Like for you personally and for the team, there was
Speaker 1: totally different quarterbus. I think what helped, but what really
Speaker 1: helped us do? I would say when Cap came in
Speaker 1: that second half, we switched our whole offense. So he
Speaker 1: came in on fire Bro, he came in on Fister
Speaker 1: because nobody didn't know how to play us. You know,
Speaker 1: nobody didn't know how to play us because you know,
Speaker 1: he can run, so they didn't know how to you know,
Speaker 1: should they They were trying to keep everything simple, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, but they didn't know like we
Speaker 1: was doing. They think we're just doing zone read, but
Speaker 1: we're still doing regular plays, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So they were just trying to keep everything simple, but
Speaker 1: we're just telling as up. Then once they started trying
Speaker 1: to crash Cap keeping it then Bro, once he gets going,
Speaker 1: he didn't catch him. So that it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like we would have had success either way.
Speaker 1: If I think gett hurt, it was gonna still be good.
Speaker 1: Even like when Capp came in, you know, we took
Speaker 1: off and it didn't, Monica. You know we're gonna do
Speaker 1: good things. M M. So in two thousand thirteen, you
Speaker 1: turn thirty. We spoke about this a lot of First
Speaker 1: of all, a lot of people don't make it that long,
Speaker 1: let alone running backs. And then you said, what you
Speaker 1: acquire seven or eight thousand yards after you turn thirty?
Speaker 1: What do you contribute your longevity too? Especially in your position,
Speaker 1: Like I said, you're you're you're running back windows what
Speaker 1: maybe three to five years. That's why running backs don't
Speaker 1: get paid that long, because they expect you guys to
Speaker 1: be in and out when you contribute your longevity too,
Speaker 1: and your ability to continue to produce year after year
Speaker 1: after year reading the newspaper. But I'm saying, Frank, go
Speaker 1: up down right straight up reading the newspaper before I
Speaker 1: go train. I would say that, then I would say God,
Speaker 1: not first. I'm gonna say God first. God. But also
Speaker 1: like hearing the doubters, man, oh, Frank got thirty years old.
Speaker 1: I'm being real. Once you hit that mark thirty, bro,
Speaker 1: they look for anything I say. You ain't you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, Bro, you can have the same
Speaker 1: y'alls toill carry A young kid say but you y'all
Speaker 1: carry just went down a notch the year before all.
Speaker 1: He like, Bro, I still have four someb of y'alls
Speaker 1: to carry. Bro. You know what I'm saying, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: out doing this kid. You know only twenty three years old.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But you know how when
Speaker 1: you hit that thirty March Bro, NFL, They're gonna try
Speaker 1: to find a way to like say, you ain't doing
Speaker 1: no more. But I would say, man, God, I would say,
Speaker 1: reading the negative stuff about myself before I go train,
Speaker 1: and I would say, man, I stay around young guys. Man.
Speaker 1: Every when I feel like the running backs getting older,
Speaker 1: I go to a younger crew. I feel like a
Speaker 1: younger crew. I go train. Let's be real, man, you
Speaker 1: gotta keep yourself on this man, keep you I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I already got the knowledge. I don't saw every defense.
Speaker 1: Like Bro, they can call the play. I can see
Speaker 1: the defense. I would I can, Man, listen, I know
Speaker 1: where the ball is gonna hear that if they block
Speaker 1: it right. You know what I'm saying. I put myself
Speaker 1: in position, you know what I'm just because the knowledge
Speaker 1: I head of the game. But I would say I
Speaker 1: stay around with young guys man on the train when
Speaker 1: I started when when the train, when the off season
Speaker 1: brom and I felt like if I couldn't do my
Speaker 1: same brook out that idea when I first came in,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be me. And that's one to read it.
Speaker 1: This past year when I didn't like I go, I was.
Speaker 1: I trained my son in some days because I wanted
Speaker 1: sure if I wanted to play, I'm like, no, son,
Speaker 1: you just go. So at first I was just doing
Speaker 1: it and to see where he still go, will he
Speaker 1: go without me? Just I want to see what his
Speaker 1: head asked, if he learned and he was doing it.
Speaker 1: But some things I was like, man, I ain't I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna do this ship so I
Speaker 1: don't know. So I felt like, if I can be
Speaker 1: the same me on the old season, I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: play man. And that's what kind of had me. If
Speaker 1: you're about this year too, because I was missing days
Speaker 1: when my son is still going with all other coaches,
Speaker 1: and I was fine with it. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you made the right choice. I mean, talk to me, really,
Speaker 1: what is like training with Like I said, I'll mess
Speaker 1: around with my kids. But obviously I'm out done playing.
Speaker 1: But what was it like being able to to why
Speaker 1: you did it? Briefly training with your son, him watching
Speaker 1: New Year, you know, growing up, and then you guys,
Speaker 1: you know now he's in college. He was debating, he
Speaker 1: stoken me in the league. But what was it like
Speaker 1: going out there and being able to trade with your
Speaker 1: with with your with your little man and seeing him
Speaker 1: excel and continue to get better. Well, I'm gonna be real,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't brow my son, my oldest son,
Speaker 1: until he got in the eleventh grade, to train him
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I want him to be a kid.
Speaker 1: I want him in George life. Bro. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he wanted to do it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When he when he wanted to do it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, he gonna want to do it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And once he got like
Speaker 1: when I got that, when I got to Miami, when
Speaker 1: I played for the Dolphins, that was my first time
Speaker 1: saying my son in play since he was like probably
Speaker 1: seven years old. You know you hear like you know
Speaker 1: you like, I'm from Miami. Sold he played the same position,
Speaker 1: and you hear the coach like, oh man, your son
Speaker 1: to play, but you're thinking that he they just saying
Speaker 1: that because you you know what I'm saying. So I come,
Speaker 1: I come home. I signed with the Dolphins. So I
Speaker 1: go to the first like I haven't saw him place
Speaker 1: since that to my lives since since probably seven years old. Bro.
Speaker 1: And so I go to the game for I'm nervous, like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, I'm nervous hill, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So everything, like like I tell people like, he got
Speaker 1: it harder to be because I didn't have to live
Speaker 1: up to no name. So I'm gonna said the kids
Speaker 1: trying me, We're gonna sunk yourself up, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And Bro, the first carry, Bro, like you know,
Speaker 1: like in spring practice, like you assault more, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna next You're gonna be a junior. Bro. First care
Speaker 1: he went like sixty seven. I said, Okay, so he
Speaker 1: got it for real, you know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what this all season Brown,
Speaker 1: then that's when he just took off on another level. Bro,
Speaker 1: that's dope. But I don't think you realize because I
Speaker 1: see it now you, like, you don't realize how important
Speaker 1: you just being there it was for him. They gave
Speaker 1: that extra juice style ship pops us here finally like
Speaker 1: it's time to go. So I think that's beautiful, and
Speaker 1: I think it's dope that you let him and find
Speaker 1: because that's I'm a coach after my kids are only thirteen.
Speaker 1: But I see so many parents and other teams like
Speaker 1: for like living through their kids, like let them be
Speaker 1: kids and let yeah, let them figure it out. And
Speaker 1: it's dope that you said you didn't start really getting
Speaker 1: on him to all about his junior years. It's ridiculous,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I see it at a young guy,
Speaker 1: so you see it. Yeah, yeah, it's ridiculous. After ten
Speaker 1: seasons with the part of nine, it's ten Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame seasons, you end up signing with the coach. How
Speaker 1: did how did that's his decision come about? I knew
Speaker 1: I was gonna leave my last year sent friends just
Speaker 1: because they drafted back in the second round and that
Speaker 1: was the highest they ever dropped it back, you know,
Speaker 1: and I felt like, you know, they I was with
Speaker 1: thirty three, but I came off eleven two, a hundred
Speaker 1: yards though, you know, what I'm saying. So when I
Speaker 1: saw that, they dropped, and then it was kind of
Speaker 1: trying to force the issue to make them play, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And that's why I you know,
Speaker 1: like upstairs, like upstairs, not the coaches, you know, like upstairs,
Speaker 1: you know, they want to see their new toy, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So they were trying to force
Speaker 1: the issue to make them play. But and that's why
Speaker 1: we spelled hardball man hardball played the best man. And
Speaker 1: you know I was the best man still. But you know,
Speaker 1: he got fired and the upstairs wanted, you know, a
Speaker 1: new toy, you know what I'm saying. He was a
Speaker 1: new gym at the time the new GM came in.
Speaker 1: You know, my old GM who dropped me had got fired.
Speaker 1: So it was you know, it was that then when
Speaker 1: they had instead of you know, out of respect, I
Speaker 1: felt like the head coach, I'm not a head I respect.
Speaker 1: I felt like the gym should have came and talked
Speaker 1: to me. And you know it's like, you know, I've
Speaker 1: been up ten years, bro, like ten years, eleven eleven
Speaker 1: dollars or something, y'alls, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I was working for I was working even though
Speaker 1: he wasn't there like the head man at the time,
Speaker 1: but she was there. You saw me working. He didn't
Speaker 1: want to talk to him in the old season and Jed,
Speaker 1: you know, Jed Jed, the owner, he come like, that's
Speaker 1: like we're like family. Brou He called me, you know,
Speaker 1: he talked to me, but he was like, and I
Speaker 1: respect he didn't want to never want to like force Mike,
Speaker 1: force me on nobody. He won't them. It won't me.
Speaker 1: And I respect that. You know what I'm saying because
Speaker 1: I saw I wanted That's how I wanted. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be I want you to want me, not because
Speaker 1: the owner said, or you got to sign and I
Speaker 1: don't want no, I don't want to be there. So
Speaker 1: the gym had the gym had the head coach the
Speaker 1: to come to me and ask and say, if you
Speaker 1: want to come back, you know what about you playing short?
Speaker 1: Y'all is back? I said, shut y'all is back, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not just for the settle for just to come
Speaker 1: back to a team and not just coming off with
Speaker 1: leven to a hundred yards. But I didn't even and
Speaker 1: I don't even. I didn't even play that much like
Speaker 1: you know that early on they were trying to force
Speaker 1: the young kid to play, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, no, but I still can play, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they it was like,
Speaker 1: you can't, you know, you can't accept that role. You know,
Speaker 1: we have to move on. I said, okay, cool. So
Speaker 1: I hit the market. I was out the night. That
Speaker 1: was my last night is in San fran You know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go messing around with Draymond dreen you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We wouldn't come out, and I want
Speaker 1: to Vegas all my homeboys. You know. Then I had
Speaker 1: I committed the Philly that night. I committed the Philly
Speaker 1: to replace the right Yeah, yeah, I committed. I committed
Speaker 1: the city and then starting quarterback called me um. Then
Speaker 1: he called me. Then the next that he gets traded.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dangn what the funk? Then man go to
Speaker 1: Kansas City. So I'm like, man, I'm trying to win
Speaker 1: the championship, man, And I was like, bro, I can't
Speaker 1: win a championship with you know, everybody getting shiped out
Speaker 1: of there. My agent called the Coats and you know
Speaker 1: they just came from the AFC Championship. They lost against
Speaker 1: the um They lost against the Patriots then, and I
Speaker 1: was like, man, if me and my boy dre go there,
Speaker 1: we can get them over the talk. And when I
Speaker 1: got there, it's just just a different team from what
Speaker 1: I was used to. Man at the end of the time,
Speaker 1: with the coach, you still dominating. No, No, I played
Speaker 1: for the coach. I played for the Dolphins, Buffalo then
Speaker 1: and the Jets. I just, you know what, I was
Speaker 1: just going your your by the year, man, because you
Speaker 1: never know what what the people thinking. I know I
Speaker 1: can play, but they look at your age to judge
Speaker 1: you off that, and um, so I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I was still training like I though, I would say.
Speaker 1: I after Buffalo and I was like back and forth,
Speaker 1: like what should I do? Should I keep going? Then
Speaker 1: I asked my kids and they wanted me to keep going,
Speaker 1: So I kept going. And this all season right here
Speaker 1: was the only time my son when I asked him
Speaker 1: and I told him what team that wanted me my
Speaker 1: oldest time. That was the first time. You always said
Speaker 1: like that, they can't go to Super Bowl. I don't
Speaker 1: think you should play. But that's basically he was telling
Speaker 1: me that I really, I really wait for you to
Speaker 1: start watching me and you know, my brothers, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That was the first time I you know,
Speaker 1: I one thing, I'm gonna listening and I'll pay attention
Speaker 1: to it like my kids and stuff. You know. So
Speaker 1: when he told me that, I was like, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: boy ready for me to sit my behind down man,
Speaker 1: you know and put the time in with dumb bro.
Speaker 1: But I told yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah, bro. I
Speaker 1: mean when you look back on it, you know, you
Speaker 1: end up finishing in name to the All Decade team
Speaker 1: and in two thousand ten, knowing what you gave where
Speaker 1: you came from your college career, all the injuries, and
Speaker 1: for you to be the third leading rusher in the
Speaker 1: history of the game, Like, has it really hit because
Speaker 1: you're done now, has it really hit you? Because most
Speaker 1: of the time we don't realize the greatness that that
Speaker 1: that people have accomplished when you're in the mix. Now
Speaker 1: you're sitting back, you ever think like, yo, I'm the
Speaker 1: third best to ever do it. It's I still don't
Speaker 1: think about it. I've been real I don't I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I don't people say because I
Speaker 1: never was doing to see people like, broh, you know
Speaker 1: what you just did? I know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just don't, Bro. I never I don't think about
Speaker 1: it still the date, Man, I don't know because I'm
Speaker 1: doing Boston right now. What but I never said that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, that's what I did. But and I
Speaker 1: think because man, you know, I I knew I ripped
Speaker 1: my ass over. I can't help what happening before, like
Speaker 1: my injuries. I knew when I knew, though, God bless
Speaker 1: me with the game of football to play the game
Speaker 1: of football. He gave me a high skill level. Bro,
Speaker 1: I just had to you know, get to me, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then and you know, and
Speaker 1: and the time was when you know, I was bless
Speaker 1: to go to the NFL. Man, I it's blessed not
Speaker 1: to get you know, hurt too bad and you know,
Speaker 1: and I was and I will still say, Bro, it's
Speaker 1: crazy and you got as portish this, Bro, I was
Speaker 1: way better than what I am now. Bro. Before my injuries,
Speaker 1: so I had everything though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and you know, and I'll just say, man, I tell
Speaker 1: the kids. Man, you want something, you gotta work for it. Bro,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying I had, Bro, I had to work
Speaker 1: like Bro, I had to change my whole skill set up. Bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because Bro, I had long speed,
Speaker 1: I had everything before my injuries or like whenever y'all
Speaker 1: talk to the porters, he'll tell you. And that's one
Speaker 1: thing bro by him at a bad when I came
Speaker 1: in at Miami, he was the guy you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And Bro, like, you know some guy. They
Speaker 1: can't take a guy right there, right you know it's
Speaker 1: as a freshman, like right there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But him as has been real with me. Oh that's
Speaker 1: one thing I thought, like pous the realist, like the
Speaker 1: realist one I've ever been wrong, bro. Like he never
Speaker 1: bro like talk bad about me. He wanted like Bro,
Speaker 1: we like before the games, like were as roommates. You're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm about to go handle the first half. Bro, you
Speaker 1: gotta go go go finish this ship up the second half.
Speaker 1: You know, he wanted to see me out there, man,
Speaker 1: and you really see that man, that's why you know
Speaker 1: that's my dog. Bro. Yeah, yeah, definitely definitely. So don't
Speaker 1: sound like to me you're going back and play no more.
Speaker 1: It's up in the app. But we never know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I see my uh Bernard just got hurt of temper,
Speaker 1: So you never know, man, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I could catch Okay, So all right, so we're gonna,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna keep that open because you know,
Speaker 1: we know you're still ready to go out there. But
Speaker 1: it got it, gotta it, gotta be, it gotta be
Speaker 1: like you know, it gotta be in the playoffs already.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, we gotta right
Speaker 1: right all right, Yeah, I got a perfect situation. So
Speaker 1: we're saying that, we're saying that if that doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: would you ever take a front office job? I want
Speaker 1: to contend to take. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. That's
Speaker 1: what I want to do. You know. I feel like, Bro,
Speaker 1: we've been we like, Bro, we've been we've been doing
Speaker 1: this our whole life. Bro like, but we know, like
Speaker 1: I could look at it running back how they walk
Speaker 1: and tell me. I just said, if he's good or not.
Speaker 1: I can see an older guy, bro, I just see
Speaker 1: an older guy individual drills, man, and I can tell
Speaker 1: you when he's done. You know what I'm saying, bro,
Speaker 1: Like bro, like that's why I like, I will say
Speaker 1: in basketball, bro, they do good by y'all man. But
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like football man, they got, you know,
Speaker 1: start doing better by us though. Agree. They they treat
Speaker 1: him like um like like like like horses. When they've
Speaker 1: done with them and they can't run a race, they
Speaker 1: just shoot him in the leg and send him. Hey
Speaker 1: basketball show your boys love dude, man, Yeah they do.
Speaker 1: They give us a lot of opportunity. Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be dope. Yeah, good luck in that front. That that's
Speaker 1: that's what is that? I mean? Like you said, who
Speaker 1: better to judge? Tellent that someone's been doing in his
Speaker 1: own life and actually played it. Yeah, that's one thing
Speaker 1: I hate. I hate a guy who never played the
Speaker 1: game on a Sylin writing down notes tell me what
Speaker 1: I can't do? You know how they're being protest like
Speaker 1: writing like that. I'm like, bro, what I'll look at him,
Speaker 1: like what the fund? This man can tell me what
Speaker 1: I can? Come on, man, I really do this a
Speaker 1: little short fat motherfucker bro, Like come on, yeh, all right,
Speaker 1: I really do this straight up. Okay, we we we
Speaker 1: talked about you know how important it is for you
Speaker 1: to be around your kids right now. You spoke on
Speaker 1: that a couple of times. You soan Frank Gore Jr.
Speaker 1: Is going is following your footsteps and going to Southern Mississippi?
Speaker 1: Did you always did you always know that he was
Speaker 1: gonna play football? Yeah? I knew it. We house. I
Speaker 1: had my last year our school, going to college. Um
Speaker 1: he got like we got my my, my, my food.
Speaker 1: My my family is a football family. You know. I
Speaker 1: was just the one was able to make it because
Speaker 1: I was I did the right thing. You know, my
Speaker 1: older cousins and they probably done me, man, but you
Speaker 1: know they locked up, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: we I got other cousins. They got other cousins like
Speaker 1: in college and stuff, and you know who kind of
Speaker 1: older than him. But he's a big the youngest one
Speaker 1: out there. Bro like bro like three or four years old. Man,
Speaker 1: like just just knowing what he's doing, like you got,
Speaker 1: you know, running the right way, switching the ball, faking.
Speaker 1: And my mom would be like, bro, my mom every game,
Speaker 1: like in college, my mom would be like your song.
Speaker 1: I watched every time we go away. This man to
Speaker 1: sit down in front of TV man and and Washington
Speaker 1: watched my mom. Oh man, then I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: like sometimes bro, you gotta remember when he comes to
Speaker 1: the San Franz to come watch me play, I have
Speaker 1: no lockerround. I just got to make sure he don't
Speaker 1: say nothing trade because he's like, man, you're sorry, hey, kids,
Speaker 1: be telling the truth though, kids, the truth. That's how
Speaker 1: Matt Twins is the man. They'd be talking big because
Speaker 1: they have their own podcast now. Talking about some of
Speaker 1: my old teammates is washed them, Like, bro, a little more.
Speaker 1: If that dude help raise you. You can't be talking
Speaker 1: about like that's crazy then, my boy, crowd you used
Speaker 1: to try to get him to talk about players and stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, crowd, man, that's stuff. I love
Speaker 1: to see it. Best of luck to So he's about
Speaker 1: he's a freshman this year or a sophomore. Well you
Speaker 1: know last year that he was a freshman. Last year
Speaker 1: he played last year, Um, but you know they gave
Speaker 1: him another year again. So last year and really count
Speaker 1: so you really freshman? But to read us so yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: giving it back. But he did his thing. Man both years.
Speaker 1: Do this year he played quarterback and everything. Bro, Oh
Speaker 1: that's what I did said. Okay, that's I did see that.
Speaker 1: That's what's up. Okay, Well shout out a little bro man.
Speaker 1: Best of luck to him. All right, man, we appreciate
Speaker 1: your time. Quick hitters. First thing to come to mind
Speaker 1: ship shoot it out. Top five Miami athletes of all time,
Speaker 1: any sport, Just top five Miami athletes. Look at his faith.
Speaker 1: Look at his faith. Look at his faith? Man, like,
Speaker 1: dam are you? I mean you go off football? If
Speaker 1: you want football, go football? Yeah, go football. That's that's player.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say best football plus Sean Teller. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go Ray Louis. I'm gonna go South Read. But that's four.
Speaker 1: Slide yourself in there. Don't be shock now because man,
Speaker 1: I was hurt that you want my man. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm gonna go to Michael. I was
Speaker 1: just about to say that money Mike. Yeah. One album
Speaker 1: that you're listening to without skipping are your Miami boy?
Speaker 1: You island by? What that? What that I listened to? That?
Speaker 1: It's an old jeez man. What thug motivation? Yeah, thumb motivation,
Speaker 1: thug motivation. Ron Hey man, I've been listening to that
Speaker 1: in the locker room, mom, you know on Saturday getting
Speaker 1: ready that Oh jay z he was, Yes, he was.
Speaker 1: What team who you think going to the super Bowl
Speaker 1: this year? Some bait man. I'm gonna be real. I
Speaker 1: can't say it's been good football man, Ben like even
Speaker 1: look you go last night, you see Temple, you see
Speaker 1: tumping Buffalo Man Tampa Tampa Bay up twenty with seven been.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard to say, but you know, I won't
Speaker 1: count Brady out an NFC. But you got Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Well, I'm gonna I'm out had to say, Brady. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm being real man like. People telling that ship about
Speaker 1: kind of city man cowboys they straight I would say
Speaker 1: cowboys got the most talent dude as a team, especial offense. Hey,
Speaker 1: cowboys gonna Cowboys gonna do just what you did, Jack Cough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: comfort back there. I agree with you, Frank. Everyone thought
Speaker 1: that all uh my homes is done. It was a
Speaker 1: flute distance and that the motherfucker just had a slow start. Man,
Speaker 1: When are they nine in three right now or eight
Speaker 1: and four? They right there straight and and Steve and
Speaker 1: ain't gonna have the nerve to say we've seen the
Speaker 1: best of homes. I'm like, come on, many just say anything.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Um, five dinner guests that you would have
Speaker 1: dead or live five dinner guests I'm gonna have, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go football players. I'ma have
Speaker 1: um Walter Payton, I have very soundish. Yeah, I'm have
Speaker 1: Clinton Porter because he had a food there mm hmmm. Um.
Speaker 1: I have Dervin Thomas. Oh you said Derman Thomas? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I had a bus man. I tried, you know,
Speaker 1: I picked I picked their brain. Man. Who was your
Speaker 1: real quick all script? Who was your favorite running back
Speaker 1: growing up? The best one? You know? Very sounds bro,
Speaker 1: even though Emma got the you know you gott This
Speaker 1: is how I look at stuff, man. I look at
Speaker 1: as a running back. Bro like not knocking him because
Speaker 1: the game is hard, but bro, it's all situations, man,
Speaker 1: what you're dealing with. Bro, Like, when I talk about
Speaker 1: running backs and stuff, I look at like the situations
Speaker 1: there and the bro like though you know, navy on
Speaker 1: my dog, But bro, Bro, like when you know when
Speaker 1: you're talking about the best bro he had and told
Speaker 1: you Brant Yeah, bit Ben, he had Yeah, three all
Speaker 1: pros up front, Bro, Like bro, like who you're trying?
Speaker 1: Who are you trying to stop? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Then you know what I'm saying. Then they went and
Speaker 1: then you get the attention you can't, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But when you look at like the Corey Dillons,
Speaker 1: you look at like myself, Like bro playing on these
Speaker 1: sorry teams, bro, but still doing you see what I'm saying, Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I never saw Phil Boss my whole career. I never
Speaker 1: saw a Phil Boss. You know what I'm saying. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's how I look at you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's why I hate when people trying to judge gods broke.
Speaker 1: But every I'm like, Bro, everybody got a different skill set.
Speaker 1: You can't help that they're getting the job done. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You imagine if if if Barry
Speaker 1: had the Dallas with Michael Irvin and Troy Aikman, or
Speaker 1: if he had if he had Rurell Davis's denverlong. I'm
Speaker 1: saying what I'm saying, But guess what, though, it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's why. That's why when when
Speaker 1: they had me the pick top five guys, I don't
Speaker 1: I hate the Aay you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: I feel like as long as you what everybody different
Speaker 1: for their team. You know what I'm saying, do as
Speaker 1: you're getting the job done, that's all that model. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Right, The funniest thing that's happened
Speaker 1: to you recently could be anything. Man, when I'm being
Speaker 1: I'm right, I got when I when I when I
Speaker 1: started sparring and I had this rushing bro Express hit me, Russia,
Speaker 1: hit me stall. I'm talking about he like he only
Speaker 1: defeated Boston. Bro yourself. No, no, no, no, bro, bro,
Speaker 1: no no no, I ain't dropped. I just bro. He
Speaker 1: hit me with a job. I told him, I said,
Speaker 1: hold up, hold up, coach like like bro, like like
Speaker 1: you said you want to You told me you want
Speaker 1: to do it. You said you want to do it? Right,
Speaker 1: say but bro, man like oh this, dude, Man, you
Speaker 1: gotta slow this ship down a little bit. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny. Dog this. I knew it was serious though,
Speaker 1: right because he never getting the ring was farm he
Speaker 1: never getting dog he got in the ring that day. Bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because then I really said
Speaker 1: this motherfucker on no English, So it's like you're gonna
Speaker 1: you know, it takes some time for him really telling
Speaker 1: what's going on, like how hard it going up? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's the one I already know
Speaker 1: that would have woke me up, Like, hold on which
Speaker 1: one do y'all hit me? What's what y'all hit me?
Speaker 1: Last question? Man, if you can have one guess on
Speaker 1: all the smoke that you would want to see, who
Speaker 1: would it be? But you have to help us get
Speaker 1: that guests on the show and be somebody from the youth,
Speaker 1: because I want you all to ask me, Bob, who
Speaker 1: do you think what's the best? I'm gonna say, Oh
Speaker 1: that's a nice one. That's a nice yeah, yeah, yeah him,
Speaker 1: definitely we need him or Vince Wood for oh no,
Speaker 1: this this Hey, I would love to get big events
Speaker 1: on the Big Well man, Frank, we we appreciate you, man,
Speaker 1: thank you for your time. I know you gotta run
Speaker 1: off to your meeting, but appreciate Yeah, best of luck.
Speaker 1: You can catch Frank Gore verse Darren Williams this Saturday
Speaker 1: December eighteen, Showtime pay per View. Make sure you check
Speaker 1: it out. Best of luck to you, man, Best of
Speaker 1: luck to your son, your family, God blessed retirement. Uh man,
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