WEBVTT - Introducing Mother Knows Death

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Knows Death, starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria QK. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to our very first episode of Mother Knows Death.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here with my daughter Maria, and we are so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to start today. But first we're going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit of our background, just in case

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know who the hell we are. So first

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say that my name is Nicole and

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<v Speaker 1>Jemmy and I'm a Board certified pathologists assistant. I specialize

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<v Speaker 1>in doing autopsies and dissecting organs from surgeries. And then

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<v Speaker 1>about ten years ago, my husband came up with the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that I should start bringing my work to Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did. I started an account called at missus

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<v Speaker 1>angeb Underscore and Jemmy and I was showing pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>different diseases that I would see in pathology and at autopsy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was having a lot of my followers guests,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the past ten years, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten almost two million people to love pathology as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I do. And it's just been a really

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<v Speaker 1>awesome ride. But things haven't always been so easy for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm very open with my followers about my struggles

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. And one of the biggest struggles that

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<v Speaker 1>I ever had was that I got pregnant when I

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<v Speaker 1>was fourteen years old. And guess who you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>right now. This is my daughter, Maria, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>thought we've always wanted to work together. Maria has been

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<v Speaker 1>such a big part of my journey. She you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to tell them you used to work at

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<v Speaker 1>the Morgue with me sometimes in the summers when you

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<v Speaker 1>were off school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember being a really little kid and you

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<v Speaker 2>first took me to a couple college classes with you,

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<v Speaker 2>which I kind of can't believe they let happen. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was also cool to sit in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>your biology class when I was just a little kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I ended.

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<v Speaker 2>Up working with you at the hospital when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a teenager, only to discover that I really hate everything medical,

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<v Speaker 2>so following in your footsteps was not really for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of took my love of science that

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<v Speaker 2>I had from you and my love of art and

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<v Speaker 2>combined them and went to school for photography. I ended

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<v Speaker 2>I have a degree in photography. I ended up working

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<v Speaker 2>in the photo industry for a few years doing photo

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<v Speaker 2>assisting fashion and prop styling working on a movie, which

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<v Speaker 2>was a really cool experience, and then COVID happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>got the opportunity to get a certification in UX design

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<v Speaker 2>and that was really helpful because right when I finished

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<v Speaker 2>that program, you needed me to come on board and

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<v Speaker 2>help you out.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>We always you know, I had Maria when I was

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<v Speaker 1>so young, and we're almost as close as siblings, and

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<v Speaker 1>we always used to daydream together, like we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>work together someday, and we never really could figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out because I love blood and guts, and Maria faints

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<v Speaker 1>when she if I even talk about her getting her

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<v Speaker 1>blood taken right now or something, she will just faint.

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<v Speaker 3>So it never really worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>But then one day we were thinking about the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we always talk about, and we always talk about

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture, and we always talk about, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear that news story? Did you hear that

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<v Speaker 1>news story? So then we thought, all right, this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the idea of our podcast. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about all of the breaking news that surrounds death, pathology, disease,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that has to do with the human body.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're really excited about doing this and we think

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll really like it. So there's I just think

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many different stories that happen in the news

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<v Speaker 1>every single week that relates to pathology, whether it's natural

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<v Speaker 1>disease or or forensics like accidents, suicides, homicides, and we

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<v Speaker 1>could talk about nearer deaths and also deaths. And really

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that we talk about this stuff is because

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<v Speaker 1>we want to live a healthier life and this is

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<v Speaker 1>just going to help us do that. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>help us make better choices, and it's going to help

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<v Speaker 1>us be safer. So more to I vivost docent, the

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<v Speaker 1>Dead teach the living. It's no coincidence that we chose

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<v Speaker 1>this day to launch our podcast because it is Dia

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<v Speaker 1>Dilla Martis.

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<v Speaker 2>That is otherwise known as Day of the Dead. If

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't pick up on her excellent Spanish.

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<v Speaker 3>ECX, listen listen, I tried. So yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The Day of the Dead is a day to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>our ancestors and anybody that has passed. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that this would be the perfect day to launch us

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<v Speaker 1>because we're talking about the dead and how the day

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<v Speaker 1>teach us. So Ray, let's get started with our first

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<v Speaker 1>story of the story of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Our first story of the week ever, Our Mother Knows

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<v Speaker 2>Death is the passing of Friends star Matthew Perry. He

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<v Speaker 2>was fifty four years old, found in his home and

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<v Speaker 2>an apparent drowning over the weekend. It's really sad. He

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<v Speaker 2>had returned home from playing pickleball, which is an activity

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<v Speaker 2>I engage, and so that's what all the hipsters do now,

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<v Speaker 2>so definitely. But he had returned from playing a game

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<v Speaker 2>of pickleball. His assistant slash friend had gone out to

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<v Speaker 2>run some errands, and when she returned, he was dead.

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<v Speaker 3>In the hot tub.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently this is getting looked into because he was.

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<v Speaker 3>Not water logged.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of want to explain what that means because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really fully understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. For the first thing, that just annoyed the shit

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<v Speaker 1>out of me. I think the very first article you

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<v Speaker 1>sent me on Saturday night said that he died from

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<v Speaker 1>an apparent drowning, and I'm like, how do they know

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<v Speaker 1>that already? They didn't even do.

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<v Speaker 3>The autopsy yet. The guy had just died.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it like an hour before the stork It

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<v Speaker 1>was forty five minutes after the police were called the

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<v Speaker 1>TMC had the article exactly, so I was like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just speculation on their part. But I did see

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<v Speaker 1>that they did perform the autopsy and they said that

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<v Speaker 1>the results were preliminary and that it was pending. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about what those terms mean a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>When they say that when they do an autopsy within

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<v Speaker 1>the first twenty four hours, they put out a report

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the preliminary report, and that's just basically what

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<v Speaker 1>did they see when they caught open the body. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying that when they cut him open, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see clear signs that he drowned in the hot tub,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that he didn't have any fluid in his lungs.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you could get hemorrhage in the temporal bone that

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<v Speaker 1>would be consistent with a drowning death, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see anything that was consistent with that. So what that

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<v Speaker 1>tells me is that it's possible that he died and

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<v Speaker 1>then he was underwater. Does that make sense to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I think that they're looking into this because

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<v Speaker 2>he was really open with his struggles with addiction in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. How fame really just got to his head.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was on the most famous sitcom of

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<v Speaker 2>all time, arguably or not, because you know, people always

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<v Speaker 2>fight that Seinfeld was more successful.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, are you in the Friends?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm obsessed with Friends, obsessed with Seinfeld. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the ninety eighties nineties sitcom era.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I like it, but I'm just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll watch it if it was on. I don't hate it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also just don't really care if I ever

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<v Speaker 1>saw it again. It just doesn't really doesn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>for me. But yeah, he had an addiction from the

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<v Speaker 1>time he was fourteen years old, I think, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>and he started drinking alcohol and then he started he

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<v Speaker 1>was filming some kind of a movie and had an

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<v Speaker 1>injury on a jet ski or something and started using

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<v Speaker 1>opioid drugs and that's when his addiction really started, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so then he started having pathology associated with that

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<v Speaker 1>because when you're on those types of drugs, it causes

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<v Speaker 1>severe constipation. And he said that he had surgery because

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<v Speaker 1>his colon burst, but to me, it was that he

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<v Speaker 1>probably was so constipated that he had his balrupture. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. But then he ended up being in the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital for an insane amount of time. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was in a coma after the surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was in a coma for two weeks, hospitalized

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<v Speaker 2>for five months from that surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>Five months is an insane time to amount.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that was only in And that was only in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen too, so that wasn't even that long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So you're talking about a person that's had severe

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<v Speaker 1>stress on his heart, on his brain, He's had surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>so he has adhesions. There's other things that could have

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<v Speaker 1>happened besides him. Just what looks obvious is him drowning

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<v Speaker 1>in the hot tub. Right, you could get hyperthermia. So

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<v Speaker 1>when your body temperature, have you ever heard of the

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<v Speaker 1>term homeostasis, that's when our body temperature. Our bodies function

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<v Speaker 1>the best at ninety eight point six degrees. Our organs

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<v Speaker 1>like that temperature. When they get too cold, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>function right. When they get too hot, they don't function right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're in a hot tub, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>my hot tub goes to like one hundred and four,

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<v Speaker 1>which is hot, your body's not even supposed to go

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<v Speaker 1>over over. I mean, you know this is when you

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<v Speaker 1>get a fever, right, You feel like shit? Right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So if it goes over one hundred and four, you

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<v Speaker 1>get in this you get in the danger zone of

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<v Speaker 1>your organs basically shutting down, and that could have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He could have I mean, I believe that he was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he was clean again, but he could have

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<v Speaker 1>not been clean. He could have not been telling us

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, and he could have been on them on

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<v Speaker 1>the pills and kind of like fell asleep or passed

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<v Speaker 1>out and didn't really realize that it was getting so hot,

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<v Speaker 1>or was kind of incapacitated. Right, So when the autopsy

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<v Speaker 1>report says that it is pending, it's because they're waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for further studies. So number one, they're waiting to look

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<v Speaker 1>at slides under the microscope. Number two, which is most

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<v Speaker 1>important with a person that has a history of abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>is that they're waiting for toxicology to come back. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who are not members of my website,

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<v Speaker 1>which is called the Grossroom dot com, we do every

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<v Speaker 1>single week we do a celebrity death or a high

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<v Speaker 1>profile death dis section where we really break down these

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity deaths and talk about the circumstances that were surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>their death, how they died, and other things too, like

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<v Speaker 1>their funeral, any controversy, any kind of criminal or lawsuits,

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. And how many have we done that?

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<v Speaker 1>We've done hundreds of them. Like celebrity deaths, every single

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<v Speaker 1>time a celebrity dies, we try to cover it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we also do high profile deaths, And in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll definitely cover Matthew Perry whenever we get more information.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're just gonna wait until the autopsy results come out.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, we're just speculating because we have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what really happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the weirdest thing I learned from this was

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<v Speaker 2>his stepdad was Keith Morrison, the Dateline guy. So seeing

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of Keith Morrison on this crime scene was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of surreal crossing of my worlds of my stress relief

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<v Speaker 2>of watching comedies and then my other guilty pleasure of

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<v Speaker 2>watching Dateline and Forenzic files. So that was definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>weird tidbit to learn in this.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's get into some other celebrity news

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<v Speaker 1>that we have going on. We did we did learn

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, two weeks ago maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>Suzanne Summer died.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she had passed away recently and her initial cause

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<v Speaker 2>of death was reported as breast cancer, so that has

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<v Speaker 2>been confirmed now, and she did not receive an autopsy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to ask you if it's standard to

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<v Speaker 2>not get an autopsy if the illness is known beforehand.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a good question because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>ask me that, and yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done plenty of autopsies on people that have had

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<v Speaker 1>stage four cancer and they knew the person had stage

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<v Speaker 1>four cancer ahead of time. It was just like the

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<v Speaker 1>family just wanted it, you know. But in general, if

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<v Speaker 1>a patient and their family knows why the person's dying,

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<v Speaker 1>they usually don't want to have an autopsy. So she

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<v Speaker 1>was diagnosed with breast cancer a long time ago, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three years ago, and she just it was open that

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<v Speaker 1>this past July she had a recurrence. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>good if you were diagnosed so long ago and it

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<v Speaker 1>pops up so many years later. And here we find

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<v Speaker 1>out from her death certificate that indeed it was she

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<v Speaker 1>had a mass in her brain, and they did a

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<v Speaker 1>biopsy on it. So they go in and they do

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<v Speaker 1>brain surgery and send a little piece down to pathology

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<v Speaker 1>to see what it is, because sometimes it could be

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<v Speaker 1>an infection or something else, so they just want to

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<v Speaker 1>confirm what it is. And when they looked at it

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<v Speaker 1>under the microscope, they could tell that it was metastatic

0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.240
<v Speaker 1>breast cancer. So she doesn't technically have brain cancer. She

0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:44.280
<v Speaker 1>has breast cancer that had spread to her brain. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to start with my personal favorite category of

0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.360
<v Speaker 1>freak accidents, because these are the ones that are just

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<v Speaker 1>so unexpected and sometimes really crazy shit happens. Especially with

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<v Speaker 1>this first case, we're going to talk about this NHL

0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.839
<v Speaker 1>former NA hockey player. His name is Adam Johnson. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ray, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he used to play on our minor team, the Phantoms,

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<v Speaker 2>but also played on the Pittsburgh Penguins. But he is

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<v Speaker 2>an x NHL player. He was playing a game in

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<v Speaker 2>England when a seemingly unfortunate accident unfolded where two players

0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.760
<v Speaker 2>had collided and the other players skate flew up and

0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.720
<v Speaker 2>slid him in the throat. So what was crazy about

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<v Speaker 2>this video is when you first watch it, it's shocking,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't really notice what's happening at first. You

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<v Speaker 2>just see him casually get up and there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of blood and he skates right off of the ice,

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<v Speaker 2>but he died a couple hours later at the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>from the injury. And I, first of all, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even believe he got up and skated away, which my

0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.240
<v Speaker 2>husband was saying is standard. They go through some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>serious injuries and they're just used to just getting right

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<v Speaker 2>off of the ice. But when you see the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of blood and now know that it resulted in death,

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<v Speaker 2>that's incredibly strange to see on video.

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<v Speaker 3>And this case is.

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<v Speaker 2>Just unfolding because now it's being investigated as a potential murder,

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<v Speaker 2>which when I watched the video, I just was like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course this accident could happen, and it had happened

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<v Speaker 2>in the past, and it always brings up the question

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<v Speaker 2>of should neck guards be required for players? And I

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<v Speaker 2>guess there's certain rules regarding that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it definitely being investigated for that or is that

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<v Speaker 1>just media buzz because the guy that caused the injury,

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<v Speaker 1>which if I'm sure it was an accident, and if

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<v Speaker 1>it was, it's horrible that this guy already has to

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<v Speaker 1>go through this and now he has to be under

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<v Speaker 1>this scrutiny through the media. But what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>because I know that there was some controversy around this

0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.440
<v Speaker 1>guy because he's been known to be kind of more

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<v Speaker 1>of an aggressive player, right is that? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to know, is he really under police investigation

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<v Speaker 1>or is this just what the news has created to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to click on the story for drama. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I don't really.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it is buzz from the

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<v Speaker 2>media saying. The last I read about it was that

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<v Speaker 2>it was seemingly going to be under investigation. That totally

0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.280
<v Speaker 2>could be a buzzword by media outlets. We know they

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<v Speaker 2>really love to exaggerate everything, and I know it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a really hotly debated topic of was it an accident

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<v Speaker 2>or was it intentional? And I just think, let's say

0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.680
<v Speaker 2>he intentionally was trying to check the player that ended

0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.720
<v Speaker 2>up dying, or he was trying to hurt him or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he just woke up and was like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to murder somebody or hurt them severely like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They all know how sharp these blades are. They're extremely thin,

0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:56.000
<v Speaker 2>sharply made from titanium, and they know exactly the injuries

0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.400
<v Speaker 2>that can result in them. So I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people are not realizing how easily this accident could happen.

0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Even last year, we just discussed a young high school

0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.920
<v Speaker 2>player that had died from the same injury, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a really famous case from nineteen eighty nine where a

0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.600
<v Speaker 2>goalie had also had his throat slip but lived.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think this is an injury that happens all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, but something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>not all the time. Sorry, it meant to be like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A rare thing, but it has a top.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's possible, but yeah, it's possible getting back to

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to the sharpness of the blade and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's to me. So when I.

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<v Speaker 1>Watched the video and we have the video in the

0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.680
<v Speaker 1>grocer and post it, obviously it's a very very short video.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the video you see him kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>knocked over and you don't really realize what happens at first,

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<v Speaker 1>And like Maria said, he stands up and I swear

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<v Speaker 1>he like looked at the pile of blood on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground and that's when he like dropped again. But then

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<v Speaker 1>he got up again. And when I see that much

0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.480
<v Speaker 1>blood come out that fast, because this whole entire video

0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.560
<v Speaker 1>was what like fifteen seconds. It happened so fast. I'm like,

0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.680
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, and artery is severed. That's how that much

0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.119
<v Speaker 1>blood comes out that fast. And that's not good in

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.560
<v Speaker 1>your neck because that's your carotid artery. It brings all

0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the oxygen to your brain and when that gets cut off,

0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it's really bad news unless it gets repaired really really fast.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Reading that another player that this happened to there was

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of army medic there that was used to

0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.080
<v Speaker 1>these crazy injuries that went and compressed the vessels in

0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.000
<v Speaker 1>his neck and that's how he was able to live

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<v Speaker 1>from that injury. Oh wow, Yeah, I thought that that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool because I think that most people just

0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.399
<v Speaker 1>freak out. But by the time you even called n

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<v Speaker 1>I won wont or have the ambulance look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not repairing that right away, there's just like

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<v Speaker 1>nothing much they can do. And you saw all that

0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.280
<v Speaker 1>blood that came out right away, Well, every single time

0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.159
<v Speaker 1>your heart beat, that much more just pours out and

0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.399
<v Speaker 1>pours out and pours out until it's all gone, and

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.600
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden you're dead.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think coming out of this is they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to now regulate the use of different neck guards. So

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States it's completely optional, whether you're a

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<v Speaker 2>minor or not, and I believe most players opt out

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<v Speaker 2>of wearing it because it's uncomfortable. But in the UK,

0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:29.239
<v Speaker 2>where this incident occurred, it is mandatory that miners wear it.

0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 2>But this kid that died was twenty nine years old,

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<v Speaker 2>so he didn't have to wear it if he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to. And it's just I am believing to see

0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:41.120
<v Speaker 2>this as a freak accident and not an intentional murder,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you watch the video, I just think it's

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<v Speaker 2>so hard to try to prove otherwise exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The next freaks accident is freaky too, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>worked in a hospital for so much of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>so it freaks me out. But apparently this happened in

0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>California that but a nurse was pushing a patient into

0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 1>an MRI room to get a scan when she felt

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the magnet of the MRI machine pushing towards her and

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the patient that was in the bed fell onto the floor,

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:22.040
<v Speaker 1>but the MRI machine basically sucked in the bed that

0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the patient was on, trapping her between the bed and

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the MRI machine. She had to get surgery. She had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of screws or something from the MRI machine

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.800
<v Speaker 1>or from the bed embedded in her body and had

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<v Speaker 1>to have surgery to remove it. And I just think, like, Ray,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever had an MRI? Yeah, a couple of times,

0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.439
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they ask you like do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any They make you take out your piercings and they

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.399
<v Speaker 1>say do you have any metal fragments in your eye?

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And do you you know that? All they ask you

0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.679
<v Speaker 1>all those questions. Do you have any implants in your body?

0:20:56.080 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 1>They ask you that because the MRI machine is takes

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<v Speaker 1>pictures by using magnetic fields and it's essentially like a

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.119
<v Speaker 1>huge magnet.

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:08.359
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if you know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Gabe even says, my husband's a firefighter, and he

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.720
<v Speaker 1>even said that they're trained for that because they can't

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.639
<v Speaker 1>have certain gear on if they would go into that

0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:18.920
<v Speaker 1>room because it could.

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.920
<v Speaker 3>It could really suck you in. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But after they did the investigation and stuff, they saw

0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:30.679
<v Speaker 1>that the hospital was like not following protocol. Shocker. Uh.

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So this incident happened in February, but the investigation

0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.240
<v Speaker 2>has just wrapped up now and of course found that

0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:41.119
<v Speaker 2>they weren't following protocol. Nobody was following protocol, so we

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 2>definitely see these accidents happen more so when just everybody's

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of blowing off rules and not paying attention.

0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 3>As we know in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Grocery room, I'm the rule follower of the group, so yeah,

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I you know what, though I'm the most non rule follower.

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.359
<v Speaker 1>You know that I'm your mom, right, but when it

0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.400
<v Speaker 1>comes to certain things like that, I'm like a crazy

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 1>role follower because I know that these things could happen

0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:10.119
<v Speaker 1>and I can't even believe that. As part of the investigation,

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>multiple things came out, but one of the biggest ones

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>was that they didn't screen the nurse or the patient

0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 1>for metal. It's just like, how does that even happen?

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Because they're so crazy about it when you go get

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the test done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm thinking of the few times I've had to

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.760
<v Speaker 2>get them done and just how hardcore they are about

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.240
<v Speaker 2>the screenings and all the pamphlets you have to read

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 2>about taking everything out and them double checking once you

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 2>get there. So it's just really hard to imagine this happening. Yeah,

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:40.119
<v Speaker 2>which is I guess why it's newsworthy because it doesn't happen.

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>You know what else is not thinking about happening is

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:45.000
<v Speaker 1>our next story.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So this TikTok went viral. This woman had

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:51.679
<v Speaker 2>woken up in the middle of the night with this

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 2>really eerie sensation in her ear. She goes to the

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 2>doctor and it turns out this live spider was in

0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 2>her ear. Which I couldn't even read this whole story.

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 2>It was skeeving me out so bad.

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:07.919
<v Speaker 1>It is kind of like your biggest fear is like,

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously your biggest fear is a spider crawling

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 1>up your vagina while you're sleeping.

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, that wasn't my biggest fear.

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>But the next biggest sphere is one climbing into your

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>ear hole while you're sleeping.

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Is Is it worse in your ear or your vagina?

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Because I never honestly thought of the first option.

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:32.679
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, I don't know, I've never thought about this,

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like your vagina is more accessible, like

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you could stick your hands up there and kind of

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:40.440
<v Speaker 1>scoop it out, whereas like you can't get inside your

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:43.640
<v Speaker 1>inner ear only you only could get inside so far

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>with a Q tip and really like a q K

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>tip could push it all the way in even further,

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and you would hear it. That's why it would be worse.

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 1>It just you would hear it in your ear. I'm

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 1>telling you. It's it sounds like if you went up

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to someone's ear and talk that close like that that stuff.

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Lilian says, ASMR. I don't even know whatever the weird

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>sound thing or whatever, but yeah, so I personally think

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 1>it would either would be worse. But then when they

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>were saying so what happens is an insect could get

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>in there and it could get like trapped up in

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>the ear wax, which is gross. But then they were

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>saying that they checked the ear to make sure that

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 1>there were like no eggs left behind, like there's just

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>all this mother shit that goes along with it. I

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>would I would be freaked out forever, like something was

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna hatch in there. But then when the doctor got

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.959
<v Speaker 1>it out, the live spider fell on the woman's sweater,

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, and then they like chased it and like

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>trapped it with a cup. No, I would vomit. I

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>don't even want a live Like the kids.

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Last week they had the kids and there was a

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 2>spider on my couch and they were freaking out so

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.880
<v Speaker 2>bad that they pushed the couch. So I can't even

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>imagine one being in my ear. I didn't even think

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 2>about the eggs part. Oh my god, I would be trauma.

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I would have to go every couple months to get

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 2>that looked into.

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Just to make sure, you know that you can buy

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>a thing online to the camera that you could hook

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>it up to some kind of app. I was actually

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna get it, you could hook it up to. Well.

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna get it for Lillian because she always

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>gets ear infections with her weird ear issue. So instead

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>of like on Sunday night when it always happens that

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I got to go to urgent care or something ridiculous,

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I could just check myself and be like, no, she

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have any ear infection or whatever.

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I would.

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I would have that camera and just be checking it

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>all the time to see if I had a spider

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.679
<v Speaker 1>in my ear or like baby spider eggs hatching in

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>my ear.

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 2>And for those of you that don't know, Lillian is

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 2>my younger sister.

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she's my ten year old. She's my middle child.

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 3>But Maria was great and we love.

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Ma, Maria was eighteen when she was born, so

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>they have a huge age difference. They're actually further apart

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>in age than Maria and I are, which is so weird.

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>We have a very weird family. So now we're going

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 1>to get into some violent crimes. The biggest story of

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 1>the week has to do with the mass shooting that

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>occurred in Maine.

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 2>So last week there was a mass shooting in Maine.

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 2>An active shooter had hit a restaurant and a bowling alley.

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 2>As a result, there have been eighteen deaths. So what

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>was really scary was that nobody could find this guy

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 2>for over forty eight hours, So the entire area of

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Maine was on lockdown for that time. Which think about

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>living in a small area and just being so scared

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 2>to leave your house and that would not know what's

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>going on. So after the forty eight hour search, they

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 2>had found him. He had a self inflicted gunshot wound,

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 2>and he was in an overflow parking lot where he

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>used to work.

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>So I think that the mass shootings are like one

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest fears I know a lot of like

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>myself and friends of mind, you, everybody, family, we all

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>have a big fear of this, and I think that

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the way that the current political systems set up, it's

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>never going to get solved because everyone's just like I'm right, No,

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm right, and people just have a really hard time

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>getting together and looking at similarities that each party has

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and differences each party has, and coming to agreements on things.

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 3>And I think that this.

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Particular case is really a good one to maybe start that,

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 1>because you have one side that says the guns are

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the problem, and then you have the other side saying

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that the mental health is the problem. And this case,

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>as more and more details unfold, it's both of these

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 1>things are problems, and both of these things need to

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>be addressed, and it's actually shocking when you hear some

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of the details that are coming out about this case.

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Apparently, this guy, his name is Robert Carr.

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 1>He was he was having he broke up with his

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend or something a couple months ago, back in February maybe,

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and then his family said that he started he took

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it very hard, and he started hearing voices and he

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>started having mental crisis at that time, and his family

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>reported that to the sheriff's office that they thought that

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>he was that he was having serious problems. This was

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>back in May, to the point where they said, he

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>has access to firearms and we are worried about that,

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>which I think is it takes a lot for a

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>family to do something like that, Like imagine imagine doing

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that to one of your family members, and then imagine

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that information not not be used to help save lives basically, right,

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>So those calls kind of nothing really came out of it.

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Then in July he had another he had another situation

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>where they he's in the army, the former military. I

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we said that, he's not former military,

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>actually right, he's active, he's an active member of the.

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was active military. And they also expressed concerns

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>about his behavior.

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he I guess with part of his the

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>voices that he started hearing, he started having this paranoia

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that people were talking about him and saying he was

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>a pedophile, and it not it not only happened at

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>his job, which when when they reported it, one of

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the soldiers actually said that they thought that he was

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>at risk of snapping and he could carry out a

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>mass shooting.

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 3>That they they took him off of.

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>They said that he was no longer allowed to use

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the firearms at the training. So but then the mental

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>health services they go, they follow up, and like everything

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>keeps falling through the cracks, like people were supposed to

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>be checking to see if he had access to guns,

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and one thing led to another, and this guy, even

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>with all this history, I'm telling you right now, he

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>was So there's this there's like a yellow flag law

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>in Maine that allows police to say that they're taking

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>away firearms from somebody if they can get a doctor

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to sign off that the person is mentally unwell, and

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>nobody used It appears that nobody tried to use that

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>law to take this guy's firearms away. They just assumed

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have access to them. I'm not sure.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Well the family had the brother had come forward and

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 2>said that they had removed the ones they knew he

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>had access to and had locked them in a family

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>safe that he didn't have access to. It seems like

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>ones he used in the shooting were newly acquired or

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 2>unknown to family members.

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's that's the thing, like who knows, right,

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>who knows? But they are new And that's the other

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>part of this is, how the hell would this guy

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>so not only did he not have firearms taken away

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>from him, I mean the family took them away, but

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the police didn't take them away, but then he was

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>able to go out and buy new ones recently days

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>before the shooting. Even having this history of this mental

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>illness documented and through the US military, no less like

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just the combination of this case is just so disturbing.

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>And how do you feel as a family member that

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>your dad, your brother, your son, your daughter got shot

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>and killed, that this all happened and this one hundred

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>percent didn't have to happen. And as a citizen, now,

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>how am I supposed to feel to know that there's

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>another person like this, that that that's waiting to do this,

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that's not being taken seriously or not followed through with.

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really sad. And I was reading that the

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>only treatment he received was he was observed for two

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>weeks in July, which, if you're going through all of

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>this and everybody in your in your life is coming

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>forward saying that they're really concerned about you, I don't

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 2>think two weeks of observation or treatment is going to

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 2>be enough to kind of undo that. So I think

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that speaks volumes, and then they even had a wellness

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>check as recently as September fifteenth on him, which resulted

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 2>in nothing, like they couldn't find him and they did nothing.

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 2>So it's just really horrifying to hear the.

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Only emotions of the wellness check if you can't find him,

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're not going to do anything, it's just it's

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>just like such a complete failure.

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 2>The only person that seemingly did something right was he

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>had applied for to buy a silencer, and he checked

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>that he had a history of mental health issues, and

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 2>because he said yes to that question, that the comfor

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 2>the store that he was trying to buy it from

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>denied him the right to purchase the silencer. So that

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>was the only case, that was the only situation in

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>this whole story so far where I've seen somebody actually

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 2>doing their job correctly.

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>They by checking off being honest.

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 2>No, this store owner actually read the paperwork and it

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 2>rose a red flag and he marked it off and

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm denying this purchase. So I think it's

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 2>it's scary to know how many people just go through

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 2>this and can just still legally obtain these and be

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 2>very apparently open about all their problems and still acquire

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:48.479
<v Speaker 2>these things.

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the thing I don't like about it, is

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>like you're if I want to get it gone, and

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you're asking me, do you have mental health issues? Of

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>course I'm going to put I don't even know why

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>this guy put yes, honestly, like of course you're gonna

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>put no, Like you're you're taking like a person's word

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>on it.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 3>There's maybe he.

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Was testing the system and clearly in the long haul

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 2>it failed.

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And there's another there's a lot more things about

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the how the investigation went down with this, with the

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>particular the way that it took so long to find

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>him even though he was right where around where his

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>car was apparently, and all this, uh, I just the

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>whole entire case just makes you think of like the

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that some law enforcements sometimes or just the government in general.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>It's just like such a clown show, like what are

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>all these people doing. It's just a complete it's a

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>complete failure in my opinion.

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was just typical of what we see in

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of murder investigations where somebody gets on their

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 2>high horse and they're like, this is my case, and

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>then they what happened was the local police were really

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 2>criticizing the state police handling of this job, and in

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and now deleted Facebook posts had referred to them as

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:03.280
<v Speaker 2>utter clowns.

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 3>And saying that they weren't chiaochy. It is clowns.

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Well they are when it comes down to like, they're

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>not vote, they're not communicating property properly with local and

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 2>federal agencies, and then that overall affects everything. And we

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 2>see it in so many murder cases where they're serial

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>killers going all over the country and the police departments

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 2>refuse to talk to one another, or it's police apartment

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>of one town won't talk to the one in the

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>next town over. And if they just simply was like, hey,

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>did have you had anything like this happened recently, then

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 2>crimes would get solved so much faster sometimes. So it's

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>really stupid to take ownership over something as serious as

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 2>this when millions of not millions, well millions of people

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>in the country are scared, but also all of the

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>people on lockdown living in that area are terrified and

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going on.

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't even believe that, because think about this,

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>if you live in Maine, and it's a small town

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.919
<v Speaker 1>that I think they had like barely any crime. It's documented, right,

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it's probably a town where people sleep with their doors unlocked, right,

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>they don't have a firearm and stuff, Like I wouldn't

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 1>feel safe being in my house knowing that a guy

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that just killed eighteen people and tried to kill many

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>more that's heavily armed, can potentially break into my house

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>with my children here without having my own firearm. But like,

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 1>those people might not even have a firearm because they

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>might live in such a safe area that they're not

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>even it's not even on their radar. Like, I can't

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>imagine how scared the citizens were that were living around there.

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>It's terrifying.

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, the one article I read said, the number of

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 2>people that died from this mass shooting last week is

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>only a few less than the annual number of murders

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 2>in Maine per year.

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the whole state command that.

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I'm kind of like I want to I

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>would have with that statistic, But I mean, obviously, this

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>is an incident that was really horrible and they weren't

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>expecting it, especially with having such low crime rate.

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 3>But I was shocked by that number.

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, because I'm like, go Maine for having good crime

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 2>stats like that, obviously with the exception of this horrific incident.

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 2>But it is just the whole thing's just really scary,

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>and I just I can't even imagine. The little glimpse

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 2>of this we had was when that prisoner was escaped

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 2>a couple last month or two months ago, and it

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even an our direct area, but it was in

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 2>my in laws area, and just this guy that had

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 2>been in jail for murdering his ex girlfriend or his

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend in front of her two kids. It's scary to

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>know this person's on the loose and living in the

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 2>woods and breaking into people's homes.

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 3>For food and clothing.

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 2>So I can't even imagine living through something this severe.

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, And of course, unfortunately this is just

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>something that we're gonna talk about all the time, which

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I hate it.

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 3>I just hate it so bad.

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>But there was another potential serious mass shooting that got

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that didn't happen at an amusement park in Colorado that

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>was called Glenwood Cavern's Adventure Park. Apparently it seems like

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, the anarchista place we go to

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>it seems like a place you have to get in

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>these gondolas to go up to a mountain to get

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 1>to it, and it's off season right now.

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>So they were slated to open in about a month,

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and when they were doing routine checks, they found a

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty year old man with tactical gear in the women's

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>restroom deceased, and they believed he could have carried out

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 2>a potentially really horrific either mass shooting or set off

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>bombs or just a horrible mass casual.

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>He had lots of ammunition on him, he had IED's,

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>he had written on the wall, I am not a killer,

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>which is yeah, and this is like a maintenance guy

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 1>finds this guy and they automatically were like, all right,

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>this isn't like a routine, routine suicide. My question is, though,

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>is that if they weren't going to be open for

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>another month, like, what was he doing there?

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 3>They they said that.

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>He probably had to go up a service road to

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>and and kind of broke in and trespassed because the

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>place isn't open, But what was he doing there? Was

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>he going to like plant stuff around? Like why was

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 1>he that one month's fried? It's so weird.

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was thinking he was either there, well, I

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know why he had all that on him, but

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking it's what you were just saying, he was

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 2>planning stuff or he was trying to get the lay

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 2>of the land. Also, my first thought was, how did

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 2>he get in there and nobody noticed it, because even

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 2>if they were off season, there has to be cameras around,

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 2>so nobody picked that up at all, which is really concerning,

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that this was discovered, Like, thank goodness

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 2>this ended without some mass casualty event happening, but it's

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>still really disturbing to know the potential behind it.

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I wish all of these would happen like this, because

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>all of these people end up killing themselves. So just like,

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>why don't you just kill yourself and not drag everybody

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>else down with you.

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's.

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, I don't I really don't understand it. But so,

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>so this just happened what two days ago, were yesterday

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 1>or something, so that this story's still unraveling. But they

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>interviewed his brother apparently and said that he was very

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.479
<v Speaker 1>distant from the family, he wouldn't talk to them, and

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that he stayed up all night and played Call of Duty,

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>which I'm not sure if we could have a conversation

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.760
<v Speaker 1>one day too about the whole video game situation, because

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what you do in that game, right, is simulate

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>killing people that.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.959
<v Speaker 2>And I even had a discussion with you last week

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 2>because the kids were playing Roadblocks and they were like, oh,

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I just shot him, and I'm like, what are you

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about? And there's a Cops and Robbers game in Roadblocks,

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, this is great to make a gun

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 2>or oriented game about killing people for a game specifically

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 2>designed for young children.

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing is is that these games have existed

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>since the time I was a kid that I remember

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 1>playing games like that on Nintendo and stuff. We even

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>our Nintendo when I was a kid had a gun

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>like instead of a controller. So I think it was

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>for like duck hunt or something. I mean, you were

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>shooting animals or whatever.

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 3>But still.

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I think there's that Some people say that there's a correlation,

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and then other people are like I know people that

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.359
<v Speaker 1>are like I personally know people that have played Coal

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Duty and they don't kill anybody. So it's like it's

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>just another piece of the puzzle. I guess you would say,

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 1>but this this kid, he's only twenty years old, Like

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 1>nothing's coming up on him so far, not even a

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>parking ticket.

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 3>So it's like you have Robert cart.

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>On the one hand from the main shooting that has

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>this whole rap sheet and this whole history, and then

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you have this guy, which is even scarier to be honest,

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>because how would you even pick this up. He's just

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>under the radar, basically, is what they're saying.

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely really scary to

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>think about, especially with what has happened in main last week,

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 2>but not fortunately because a person's life is still ended.

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 2>But fortunately it didn't result in this mass casualty event

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 2>happening in a theme park being affected because honestly, I

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even go to that theme park hearing this, because

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 2>how did this guy even get in there, And they're

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 2>saying it was unclear how long he was there he

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 2>was even in there, let alone disease.

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I think, I think you say that you wouldn't go there,

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'm kind of like, that's the safest place in

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the world right now, because they're gonna like they're gonna

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>be on that place. But yeah, I don't know. I

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know, just like I hate I hate having to

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about this. I just I don't want to.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Talk about this.

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I just I it really, it really is just scary

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to every single time we go somewhere, we go to

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the boardwalk, we go anywhere where, there's just a bunch

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>of people trick or treating anything. You're just like always

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this stuff, and it's terrible, Like I just

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>want to enjoy my life and not have to worry

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 1>about that kind of stuff.

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, Well, do you want to move on to

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 3>some lighter fare, Yes, of course.

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>This section is always is always the is entertaining, you

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 1>would say, usually right for the most part, but sometimes

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>there's upsetting stories.

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 3>But this is this is a weird one. I'm not

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 3>gonna lie.

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.800
<v Speaker 2>So and our first medical well, our only medical story

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 2>today is about the excessive donations of used sex toys

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 2>to thrift stores.

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 3>So, oh, you know what.

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I just thought that we were talking about the category

0:43:56.560 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the following category of other dead other dead bodies or

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever that is, but which which is usually entertaining, medical

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>is not is not usually entertaining, but this particular subject

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is very entertaining.

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 3>Use sex toys. Yeah.

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:19.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So a thrift store in the United Kingdom, which

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 2>is primarily a children's charity, has had to issue a

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 2>public statement begging people to stop donating use sex toys.

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>So ew, okay, the thing is is that, don't you

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's kind of funny that, like their major concern

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 1>was because it's a children's charity, Like what about a

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>used sex toy putting it in the thrift store and

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:49.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody buying it and using it, because because that could happen,

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 1>they sell like our thrift store sells weird shit. You've

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:56.240
<v Speaker 1>seen underwear there. You've seen weird stuff.

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, you get at least I'm not justified as

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying you to lease wash or bleach underwear. And

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess you could also clean a dildough. But just

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 2>the balls on people to donate something like that is

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 2>really gross.

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:13.879
<v Speaker 3>Please just throw it out.

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 2>And I guess I guess the thrift store's main concern

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 2>was that they have teenagers volunteering there, so they were like,

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:24.839
<v Speaker 2>please stop exposing our children and donating these objects because

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>they're inappropriate. But to what you said, nobody's worried about

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the sanitary factor.

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's It's true, like bacteria or whatever is

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.439
<v Speaker 1>one thing, but like if someone uses a sex toy

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and doesn't really clean it off and brings it to

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>a thrift store, like HPV hepatitis herpes can live on

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>surfaces for.

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Days to weeks, So like that's a live.

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Active virus that you can transmit that way, and that

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that to me, just that should be the biggest concern

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of this article. Not little kids seeing it. But you know,

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>a teenager might want to get a dildo half price.

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 1>They can be pretty pricey. They're like they're like eighty

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 1>dollars sometimes.

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I I guess, but I just I don't even know

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the type of person who would make such a purchase

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:19.240
<v Speaker 2>at that location.

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 1>So well, do you know, you know what Franny Fine

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>always says is that this is the time that you

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:25.720
<v Speaker 1>always buy retail.

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 3>You never go, you never go. You never shop retail.

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you never you never get you never get this

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>half price something like a dildo, because it's too good

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to be true, so you want to make sure that

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you pay full price for it. Uh.

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's certain things you most definitely should buy brand

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>new out of a box, and I'm gonna wrap this

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:51.399
<v Speaker 2>in that category. Because it's pretty disgusting. Yeah, there's a few.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm like a huge person thrift person. I

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>like to get buy things that are antique stores and

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>everything like that. But there's certain things that like you

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>just don't by used. And it's definitely like things that

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you insert into your body.

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 2>AE hundred percent. So back to I guess finalizing our sections.

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 2>With the other death news which you teased a little

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 2>bit earlier. There was this insane story out of Alabama

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 2>where these people had just purchased a home and they

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 2>were doing cleanup and there was a refrigerator unplugged in

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 2>the backyard, so as they start cleaning up around it,

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 2>they open it and find a human hand inside.

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Like could you imagine like this?

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I just think of like this young couple just like

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>cleaning up the backyard and la da dah.

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, Oh yeah, there's a human hand in there. No,

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I really can't imagine it. And they're saying it's the

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 2>body of a deceased nineteen year old. He had aparent

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 2>him and his parents had apparently rented the house before

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>it was eventually sold to this now new couple who

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 2>found the body and they think he had been in

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 2>there since potentially since June.

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Well he had he was suffering from spina bifida, so

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 1>they the parents were the caregivers of the kid. And

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess they think that the parents are under charges

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 3>They think they got arrested for his murder. They got arrested.

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm not sure exactly if they really determined

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.439
<v Speaker 1>what the cause of his death was. But yeah, could

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>you imagine that just you bought a house and finding

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>that because people always leave their shit in the house.

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 1>When I moved in here, there was like a bunch

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 1>of stuff we had to move out, and you had

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things at your house too, right, just

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>imagine like going through that.

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I've heard some nefarious tales about the people that used

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 2>to live in my home. Yeah, so I don't even

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 2>want to know what could potentially be fine the No.

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I know that's true, actually, So I don't know, don't

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:53.399
<v Speaker 1>get into that right now.

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 3>That might be the either.

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Episode that that could be a very special way down

0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>the road episode because it's kind of really gross.

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I having just bought a home.

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 2>In the last couple of years, I certainly can't imagine

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.840
<v Speaker 2>finding a discovery like this. I would be so disturbed,

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:14.720
<v Speaker 2>and just the fridge was unplugged, so imagine how gnarly

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that must have been in there. And they're saying they

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 2>found a hand, but I'm assuming that's the only recognizable.

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>They probably lifted the lid. It probably smelled terrible. They

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 1>probably opened it to see because they they more than

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 1>likely thought it was like rotting meat because it's a freezer.

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 3>And they technically it was.

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 1>They opened Yeah, you're right, they opened the lid, they

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:44.280
<v Speaker 1>see a hand, and they probably shut the lid really fast,

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 1>called the police. The police came, and then they said

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that's they identified it as the body, like they found

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the whole body in there. So I'm not sure that

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 1>it was dismembered. It just seems like maybe all they

0:49:56.320 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>saw was the hand laying up there. But I just

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:04.280
<v Speaker 1>like what I found a broken record in my wall

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that was labeled star Spangled banner. That's all the good

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff I found in my wall.

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we could do an entire episode of users

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.360
<v Speaker 2>submissions of weird stuff people have found in their walls.

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:17.359
<v Speaker 3>That might be really cool.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, actually, actually, yeah totally.

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 2>So I want to wrap up. Every week, we're gonna

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 2>answer a couple questions so they could be towards my mom, me,

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 2>both of us together. So the first couple questions we

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 2>have today, first is from our good friend Amy Loughran.

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 2>So she wants to know have you ever felt a

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 2>ghost watching you while performing an autopsy?

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<v Speaker 1>So Amy's the good nurse if you guys aren't familiar

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>with her name, and we love her. I got to

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 1>meet her in September at the Wow conference and I

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>just love her. We went out to dinner and we

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>actually have to tell this story about Gabe, about the pictures.

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:01.720
<v Speaker 3>So we go out to dinner.

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>It was Mekara, Amy and Gabe and we went out

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to dinner to this like really nice Italian restaurant and

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 1>we're eating and we're having a good time and we're laughing,

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and the waiter comes over to us and says, oh,

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 1>like we're taking like selfies with each other. And he's like,

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>do you want me to take a picture of the

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:25.439
<v Speaker 1>whole table? So we're like, yeah, sure, and so Cara,

0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Kara, hands over her phone to

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 1>this waiter and I automatically was like, what is this

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 1>dude doing.

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:34.240
<v Speaker 3>He's all like over me with the.

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Thing and I'm like, you know, we always Me and

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Maria always complained that, like Gabe takes the worst pictures

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of us ever because he always like puts the camera

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>down like this, and I'm like, dude, like go above

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>my chin. You're getting it makes me look you know.

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the guy's taking this weird angle and I

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:55.959
<v Speaker 1>already know like it's it's not going to look good.

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.400
<v Speaker 1>And she takes back the phone and she doesn't look

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:01.760
<v Speaker 1>at it right away way, and we're sitting there eating dinner,

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, I look over at

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Kara and Gabe and they're like crying, laughing, Like Kara,

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Kara's like hyper ventilating and can't breathe because of the picture.

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 1>So we all look at it. I have to where

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:21.440
<v Speaker 1>can I post this, like somewhere so every so so

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 1>they can see it.

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:24.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll just post it in I can pull it up.

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I could pull it up really quick because I have

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 1>it as Gabe's context. Oh no, yeah, you have what

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:33.320
<v Speaker 1>could you pull up the whole photo though? Somehow because

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just so good like it it looks like Gabe

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 1>is like five hundred pounds and me maybe three hundred

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 1>pounds the guy had some kind of like why, I.

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Don't know if you put like the fish eye, do

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:50.120
<v Speaker 3>we have a fish eyelands on the I think it

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 3>could be.

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what the hell this guy did,

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>but you would think since he offered to take our

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 1>picture at.

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:58.720
<v Speaker 3>The restaurant that he would know what he was doing.

0:52:58.800 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 3>And it is.

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just looks so funny. And then Cara and Amy

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:08.240
<v Speaker 1>look completely normal. It's just like it's like the toniest

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:11.400
<v Speaker 1>picture of all time. Well, I don't have the full photo,

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:12.240
<v Speaker 1>but I have.

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 3>It's so good.

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So she's holding up she's holding up a photo

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.719
<v Speaker 1>when Gabe calls her, that's what it looks like. So

0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's hilarious.

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:29.600
<v Speaker 3>It just it just looks so funny. It just was

0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 3>so good.

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, all right, getting back, what's what's Amy's question? She

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:34.879
<v Speaker 1>wants to know if I see that you.

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Ever felt a ghost watching you when you cut open

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 2>their body? Sorry I misphrased it earlier.

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I so we had one of the labs that

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I used to work at I when I worked with Frank,

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 1>who's my was my former autopsy partner and I love

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>him so much. We would there was a guy that

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 1>was working there that was a histotech, but then on

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the weekends he was like a ghost hunter and he

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 1>always used to come in the morgue and be like,

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I really want to have a reading with you guys,

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and like clear this area out, and Frank would be like.

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:11.439
<v Speaker 3>May get the fuck out of here.

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.880
<v Speaker 1>It was just so good because like when you when

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>you cut open dead people for a living, you don't

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about ghosts and stuff because no, no,

0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And also like we do it so much and I've

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>never had like a paranormal experience with that, and I

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like, not only have I done so many autopsies,

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>but like I used to release all the bodies to

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the funeral home. I used to take care of the morgue,

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>go down there, take the fridge temperatures every day. Like

0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been around so many dead people, I feel like

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 1>they would be bothering me all the time.

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 3>But maybe I don't know. But to answer your question, no,

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:53.760
<v Speaker 3>all right, sorry, I think.

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Our second question is do you have some advice for

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 2>new PA's or students.

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, don't know, I'm just joking. Yeah, if you want to, well,

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're a PA student, I guess you already know

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that you want to do this as a job, and

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you shadowed a PA to make sure that you

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:19.279
<v Speaker 1>definitely want to do this, because I feel like as

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:21.879
<v Speaker 1>much as I've done a service to this field, I've

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:24.280
<v Speaker 1>also done a disservice because I make it look super

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>glamorous to be a PA, and it sometimes the.

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Job really sucks.

0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:31.759
<v Speaker 1>So you need to go and make sure that it's

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.400
<v Speaker 1>something that you can do for a living. Because most

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of the time the lab is like in the basement,

0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 1>or it's in some kind of room in the hospital

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that's hidden. There's no windows. Oftentimes there's no you just

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 1>you go and work in the morning and it's dark out,

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and you leave at night and it's dark out. You

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what time of day it is because

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 1>there's no windows and you're not around people. It's not

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like the active part of the hospital. I personally like

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that because I don't like people, but like some people

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like to be around other people. So I think that

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you should always obviously shadow someone before you even decide

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to go to PA school. Once you're in PA school,

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that the best thing to do is to

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>get some kind of a job in the lab, like

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 1>don't work at Starbucks on the weekends, even if it

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 1>pays more money. I know money is an issue because

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm a person and I was poor a huge part

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of my life. So it was like heart, you know,

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I was in school and I had her, I was

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a single mom. I had to work full time and

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:34.960
<v Speaker 1>go to school full time, and like I so get

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I get the money thing. But try really hard to

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:41.480
<v Speaker 1>get your foot in the door at the hospital in general,

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 1>at the hospital, like even if you could work at

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the cafeteria at the hospital versus Starbucks, but mainly try

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.839
<v Speaker 1>to get into the lab of the hospital, even if

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you're just like putting specimens in the computer and stuff.

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:55.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like the best foot in the door ever.

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 3>That's that's my advice.

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.920
<v Speaker 2>That's really good advice. So if you guys want to

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:04.879
<v Speaker 2>leave a question for us, every Friday on the Mother

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:08.040
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0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:12.080
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0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:15.120
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0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 2>we'll pick two or three to read every week.

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Awesome, please leave some for Maria this time, because I

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 1>would really like I don't need to answer any questions.

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.560
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0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:34.800
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0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:38.600
<v Speaker 1>And that I don't care, but I but I know

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.160
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0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:42.720
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0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:47.240
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0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.440
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0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:58.920
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0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:04.560
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0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:08.120
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0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:11.640
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0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.080
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0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:18.640
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0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:28.280
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0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:30.160
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0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:34.360
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0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:37.520
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0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:40.040
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0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:42.000
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0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:47.560
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a really awesome space to have good conversations.

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Even if people don't agree with each other, they're definitely

0:58:55.600 --> 0:59:00.000
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0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:03.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's a really good community to be part of.

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 3>And if you.

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Really like this podcast, you'll definitely like everything else going

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:09.760
<v Speaker 2>on there. So I think it's even as me that

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:11.439
<v Speaker 2>wants to pass out every time we.

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Talk about blood or I see it, which I've been.

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Good today, Okay, but yeah, it's it's digestible for the

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 2>regular person, and that's the coolest part of it.

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 1>So wait, I have a question, since since needles bother you,

0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 1>does the whole like slicing of the throat thing bother you?

0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but not as much. I just can't explain it.

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I think we've come to the conclusion I might have

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:39.720
<v Speaker 2>white coat syndrome, where I think I think of going

0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:41.880
<v Speaker 2>to the doctor. When I'm at the doctor, that's when

0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I get really queasy because I've been as a hobby

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 2>embroidering a lot lately and I stab myself quite often

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 2>by accident, and it doesn't bother me at all.

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I just I just can't get to the root of it.

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like fluid coming out.

0:59:57.200 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't like.

0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I really don't no, No, I'm having

1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 2>a hard time figuring out where the root of it

1:00:02.600 --> 1:00:05.080
<v Speaker 2>is so I could get over my almost thirty year

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 2>long life time fear.

1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 3>You might have to talk to.

1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 1>A psychiatrist about this and see if your mother induced

1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:14.280
<v Speaker 1>any kind of like childhood trauma on you or something.

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:15.439
<v Speaker 3>Do you think seeing an.

1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Autopsy at eight years old, perhaps you were like thirteen.

1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Please, that's kind of young.

1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 1>If you were old enough, it's fine, You're good, eh.

1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:27.959
<v Speaker 3>All right, guys, well, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great having you on our first episode and

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