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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death, starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria QK. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to our very first episode of Mother Knows Death.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with my daughter Maria, and we are so

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Speaker 1: excited to start today. But first we're going to give

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of our background, just in case

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Speaker 1: you don't know who the hell we are. So first

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Speaker 1: I want to say that my name is Nicole and

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Speaker 1: Jemmy and I'm a Board certified pathologists assistant. I specialize

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Speaker 1: in doing autopsies and dissecting organs from surgeries. And then

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Speaker 1: about ten years ago, my husband came up with the

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Speaker 1: idea that I should start bringing my work to Instagram,

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Speaker 1: and I did. I started an account called at missus

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Speaker 1: angeb Underscore and Jemmy and I was showing pictures of

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Speaker 1: different diseases that I would see in pathology and at autopsy,

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Speaker 1: and I was having a lot of my followers guests,

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Speaker 1: and over the past ten years, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: I've gotten almost two million people to love pathology as

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Speaker 1: much as I do. And it's just been a really

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Speaker 1: awesome ride. But things haven't always been so easy for me.

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Speaker 1: And I'm very open with my followers about my struggles

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Speaker 1: in my life. And one of the biggest struggles that

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Speaker 1: I ever had was that I got pregnant when I

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Speaker 1: was fourteen years old. And guess who you're looking at

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Speaker 1: thought we've always wanted to work together. Maria has been

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Speaker 1: such a big part of my journey. She you know,

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Speaker 1: you want to tell them you used to work at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember being a really little kid and you

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Speaker 2: which I kind of can't believe they let happen. But

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Speaker 2: it was also cool to sit in the back of

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Speaker 1: And then I ended.

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Speaker 2: Up working with you at the hospital when I was

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Speaker 2: So I kind of took my love of science that

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so it's weird.

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Speaker 1: We always you know, I had Maria when I was

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Speaker 1: we always used to daydream together, like we're going to

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Speaker 3: So it never really worked out.

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Speaker 1: But then one day we were thinking about the stuff

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Speaker 1: to talk about all of the breaking news that surrounds death, pathology, disease,

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Speaker 1: us be safer. So more to I vivost docent, the

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Speaker 1: Dead teach the living. It's no coincidence that we chose

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Speaker 2: That is otherwise known as Day of the Dead. If

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Speaker 1: The Day of the Dead is a day to celebrate

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Speaker 2: Our first story of the week ever, Our Mother Knows

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Speaker 2: Death is the passing of Friends star Matthew Perry. He

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Speaker 2: was fifty four years old, found in his home and

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Speaker 2: And apparently this is getting looked into because he was.

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Speaker 1: Well. For the first thing, that just annoyed the shit

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Speaker 1: When they say that when they do an autopsy within

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're talking about a person that's had severe

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Speaker 1: which is called the Grossroom dot com, we do every

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Speaker 1: We've done hundreds of them. Like celebrity deaths, every single

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Speaker 1: we'll definitely cover Matthew Perry whenever we get more information.

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Speaker 1: But we're just gonna wait until the autopsy results come out.

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Speaker 2: They all know how sharp these blades are. They're extremely thin,

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Speaker 1: tip could push it all the way in even further,

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00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: and you would hear it. That's why it would be worse.

441
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: It just you would hear it in your ear. I'm

442
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: telling you. It's it sounds like if you went up

443
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: to someone's ear and talk that close like that that stuff.

444
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: Lilian says, ASMR. I don't even know whatever the weird

445
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: sound thing or whatever, but yeah, so I personally think

446
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: it would either would be worse. But then when they

447
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: were saying so what happens is an insect could get

448
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: in there and it could get like trapped up in

449
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: the ear wax, which is gross. But then they were

450
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: saying that they checked the ear to make sure that

451
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: there were like no eggs left behind, like there's just

452
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: all this mother shit that goes along with it. I

453
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: would I would be freaked out forever, like something was

454
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna hatch in there. But then when the doctor got

455
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 1: it out, the live spider fell on the woman's sweater,

456
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: I know, and then they like chased it and like

457
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: trapped it with a cup. No, I would vomit. I

458
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: don't even want a live Like the kids.

459
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: Last week they had the kids and there was a

460
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: spider on my couch and they were freaking out so

461
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 2: bad that they pushed the couch. So I can't even

462
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: imagine one being in my ear. I didn't even think

463
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: about the eggs part. Oh my god, I would be trauma.

464
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: I would have to go every couple months to get

465
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: that looked into.

466
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: Just to make sure, you know that you can buy

467
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: a thing online to the camera that you could hook

468
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: it up to some kind of app. I was actually

469
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: gonna get it, you could hook it up to. Well.

470
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna get it for Lillian because she always

471
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: gets ear infections with her weird ear issue. So instead

472
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: of like on Sunday night when it always happens that

473
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: I got to go to urgent care or something ridiculous,

474
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: I could just check myself and be like, no, she

475
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: doesn't have any ear infection or whatever.

476
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would.

477
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: I would have that camera and just be checking it

478
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: all the time to see if I had a spider

479
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: in my ear or like baby spider eggs hatching in

480
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: my ear.

481
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: And for those of you that don't know, Lillian is

482
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: my younger sister.

483
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's my ten year old. She's my middle child.

484
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: But Maria was great and we love.

485
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ma, Maria was eighteen when she was born, so

486
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: they have a huge age difference. They're actually further apart

487
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: in age than Maria and I are, which is so weird.

488
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: We have a very weird family. So now we're going

489
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: to get into some violent crimes. The biggest story of

490
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: the week has to do with the mass shooting that

491
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: occurred in Maine.

492
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: So last week there was a mass shooting in Maine.

493
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: An active shooter had hit a restaurant and a bowling alley.

494
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: As a result, there have been eighteen deaths. So what

495
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: was really scary was that nobody could find this guy

496
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: for over forty eight hours, So the entire area of

497
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: Maine was on lockdown for that time. Which think about

498
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: living in a small area and just being so scared

499
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: to leave your house and that would not know what's

500
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: going on. So after the forty eight hour search, they

501
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: had found him. He had a self inflicted gunshot wound,

502
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: and he was in an overflow parking lot where he

503
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: used to work.

504
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: So I think that the mass shootings are like one

505
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: of the biggest fears I know a lot of like

506
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: myself and friends of mind, you, everybody, family, we all

507
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: have a big fear of this, and I think that

508
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: the way that the current political systems set up, it's

509
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: never going to get solved because everyone's just like I'm right, No,

510
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm right, and people just have a really hard time

511
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: getting together and looking at similarities that each party has

512
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: and differences each party has, and coming to agreements on things.

513
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: And I think that this.

514
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: Particular case is really a good one to maybe start that,

515
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: because you have one side that says the guns are

516
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: the problem, and then you have the other side saying

517
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: that the mental health is the problem. And this case,

518
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: as more and more details unfold, it's both of these

519
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: things are problems, and both of these things need to

520
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: be addressed, and it's actually shocking when you hear some

521
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: of the details that are coming out about this case.

522
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: Apparently, this guy, his name is Robert Carr.

523
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: He was he was having he broke up with his

524
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: girlfriend or something a couple months ago, back in February maybe,

525
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: and then his family said that he started he took

526
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: it very hard, and he started hearing voices and he

527
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: started having mental crisis at that time, and his family

528
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: reported that to the sheriff's office that they thought that

529
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: he was that he was having serious problems. This was

530
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: back in May, to the point where they said, he

531
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: has access to firearms and we are worried about that,

532
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: which I think is it takes a lot for a

533
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: family to do something like that, Like imagine imagine doing

534
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: that to one of your family members, and then imagine

535
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: that information not not be used to help save lives basically, right,

536
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: So those calls kind of nothing really came out of it.

537
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: Then in July he had another he had another situation

538
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: where they he's in the army, the former military. I

539
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: don't know if we said that, he's not former military,

540
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: actually right, he's active, he's an active member of the.

541
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was active military. And they also expressed concerns

542
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: about his behavior.

543
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he I guess with part of his the

544
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: voices that he started hearing, he started having this paranoia

545
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: that people were talking about him and saying he was

546
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: a pedophile, and it not it not only happened at

547
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: his job, which when when they reported it, one of

548
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: the soldiers actually said that they thought that he was

549
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: at risk of snapping and he could carry out a

550
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: mass shooting.

551
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: That they they took him off of.

552
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: They said that he was no longer allowed to use

553
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: the firearms at the training. So but then the mental

554
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: health services they go, they follow up, and like everything

555
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: keeps falling through the cracks, like people were supposed to

556
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: be checking to see if he had access to guns,

557
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: and one thing led to another, and this guy, even

558
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: with all this history, I'm telling you right now, he

559
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: was So there's this there's like a yellow flag law

560
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: in Maine that allows police to say that they're taking

561
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: away firearms from somebody if they can get a doctor

562
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: to sign off that the person is mentally unwell, and

563
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: nobody used It appears that nobody tried to use that

564
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: law to take this guy's firearms away. They just assumed

565
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: he didn't have access to them. I'm not sure.

566
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: Well the family had the brother had come forward and

567
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: said that they had removed the ones they knew he

568
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: had access to and had locked them in a family

569
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: safe that he didn't have access to. It seems like

570
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: ones he used in the shooting were newly acquired or

571
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: unknown to family members.

572
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's the thing, like who knows, right,

573
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: who knows? But they are new And that's the other

574
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: part of this is, how the hell would this guy

575
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: so not only did he not have firearms taken away

576
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: from him, I mean the family took them away, but

577
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: the police didn't take them away, but then he was

578
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: able to go out and buy new ones recently days

579
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: before the shooting. Even having this history of this mental

580
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: illness documented and through the US military, no less like

581
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: it's just the combination of this case is just so disturbing.

582
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: And how do you feel as a family member that

583
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: your dad, your brother, your son, your daughter got shot

584
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: and killed, that this all happened and this one hundred

585
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: percent didn't have to happen. And as a citizen, now,

586
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: how am I supposed to feel to know that there's

587
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: another person like this, that that that's waiting to do this,

588
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: that's not being taken seriously or not followed through with.

589
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really sad. And I was reading that the

590
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: only treatment he received was he was observed for two

591
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: weeks in July, which, if you're going through all of

592
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: this and everybody in your in your life is coming

593
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: forward saying that they're really concerned about you, I don't

594
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: think two weeks of observation or treatment is going to

595
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: be enough to kind of undo that. So I think

596
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: that speaks volumes, and then they even had a wellness

597
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: check as recently as September fifteenth on him, which resulted

598
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: in nothing, like they couldn't find him and they did nothing.

599
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: So it's just really horrifying to hear the.

600
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: Only emotions of the wellness check if you can't find him,

601
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: if you're not going to do anything, it's just it's

602
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: just like such a complete failure.

603
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: The only person that seemingly did something right was he

604
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: had applied for to buy a silencer, and he checked

605
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: that he had a history of mental health issues, and

606
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: because he said yes to that question, that the comfor

607
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: the store that he was trying to buy it from

608
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: denied him the right to purchase the silencer. So that

609
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: was the only case, that was the only situation in

610
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: this whole story so far where I've seen somebody actually

611
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: doing their job correctly.

612
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: They by checking off being honest.

613
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: No, this store owner actually read the paperwork and it

614
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: rose a red flag and he marked it off and

615
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: was like, I'm denying this purchase. So I think it's

616
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: it's scary to know how many people just go through

617
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: this and can just still legally obtain these and be

618
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: very apparently open about all their problems and still acquire

619
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 2: these things.

620
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing I don't like about it, is

621
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: like you're if I want to get it gone, and

622
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: you're asking me, do you have mental health issues? Of

623
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: course I'm going to put I don't even know why

624
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: this guy put yes, honestly, like of course you're gonna

625
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: put no, Like you're you're taking like a person's word

626
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: on it.

627
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: There's maybe he.

628
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: Was testing the system and clearly in the long haul

629
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 2: it failed.

630
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's another there's a lot more things about

631
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: the how the investigation went down with this, with the

632
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: particular the way that it took so long to find

633
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: him even though he was right where around where his

634
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: car was apparently, and all this, uh, I just the

635
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: whole entire case just makes you think of like the

636
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: that some law enforcements sometimes or just the government in general.

637
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: It's just like such a clown show, like what are

638
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: all these people doing. It's just a complete it's a

639
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: complete failure in my opinion.

640
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: Well, it was just typical of what we see in

641
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: a lot of murder investigations where somebody gets on their

642
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: high horse and they're like, this is my case, and

643
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: then they what happened was the local police were really

644
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: criticizing the state police handling of this job, and in

645
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: and now deleted Facebook posts had referred to them as

646
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 2: utter clowns.

647
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: And saying that they weren't chiaochy. It is clowns.

648
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: Well they are when it comes down to like, they're

649
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: not vote, they're not communicating property properly with local and

650
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: federal agencies, and then that overall affects everything. And we

651
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: see it in so many murder cases where they're serial

652
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: killers going all over the country and the police departments

653
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 2: refuse to talk to one another, or it's police apartment

654
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: of one town won't talk to the one in the

655
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: next town over. And if they just simply was like, hey,

656
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: did have you had anything like this happened recently, then

657
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: crimes would get solved so much faster sometimes. So it's

658
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: really stupid to take ownership over something as serious as

659
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: this when millions of not millions, well millions of people

660
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: in the country are scared, but also all of the

661
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: people on lockdown living in that area are terrified and

662
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on.

663
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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't even believe that, because think about this,

664
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: if you live in Maine, and it's a small town

665
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: that I think they had like barely any crime. It's documented, right,

666
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: it's probably a town where people sleep with their doors unlocked, right,

667
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: they don't have a firearm and stuff, Like I wouldn't

668
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: feel safe being in my house knowing that a guy

669
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: that just killed eighteen people and tried to kill many

670
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: more that's heavily armed, can potentially break into my house

671
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: with my children here without having my own firearm. But like,

672
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: those people might not even have a firearm because they

673
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: might live in such a safe area that they're not

674
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: even it's not even on their radar. Like, I can't

675
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: imagine how scared the citizens were that were living around there.

676
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: It's terrifying.

677
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: Well, the one article I read said, the number of

678
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: people that died from this mass shooting last week is

679
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: only a few less than the annual number of murders

680
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: in Maine per year.

681
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole state command that.

682
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I'm kind of like I want to I

683
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: would have with that statistic, But I mean, obviously, this

684
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: is an incident that was really horrible and they weren't

685
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: expecting it, especially with having such low crime rate.

686
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: But I was shocked by that number.

687
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: Honestly, because I'm like, go Maine for having good crime

688
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: stats like that, obviously with the exception of this horrific incident.

689
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: But it is just the whole thing's just really scary,

690
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: and I just I can't even imagine. The little glimpse

691
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: of this we had was when that prisoner was escaped

692
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: a couple last month or two months ago, and it

693
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: wasn't even an our direct area, but it was in

694
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: my in laws area, and just this guy that had

695
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: been in jail for murdering his ex girlfriend or his

696
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: girlfriend in front of her two kids. It's scary to

697
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: know this person's on the loose and living in the

698
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: woods and breaking into people's homes.

699
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: For food and clothing.

700
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: So I can't even imagine living through something this severe.

701
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, And of course, unfortunately this is just

702
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: something that we're gonna talk about all the time, which

703
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: I hate it.

704
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: I just hate it so bad.

705
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: But there was another potential serious mass shooting that got

706
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: that didn't happen at an amusement park in Colorado that

707
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: was called Glenwood Cavern's Adventure Park. Apparently it seems like

708
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the anarchista place we go to

709
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: it seems like a place you have to get in

710
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: these gondolas to go up to a mountain to get

711
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: to it, and it's off season right now.

712
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

713
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: So they were slated to open in about a month,

714
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: and when they were doing routine checks, they found a

715
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: twenty year old man with tactical gear in the women's

716
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: restroom deceased, and they believed he could have carried out

717
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: a potentially really horrific either mass shooting or set off

718
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: bombs or just a horrible mass casual.

719
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: He had lots of ammunition on him, he had IED's,

720
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: he had written on the wall, I am not a killer,

721
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: which is yeah, and this is like a maintenance guy

722
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: finds this guy and they automatically were like, all right,

723
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: this isn't like a routine, routine suicide. My question is, though,

724
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: is that if they weren't going to be open for

725
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: another month, like, what was he doing there?

726
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: They they said that.

727
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: He probably had to go up a service road to

728
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: and and kind of broke in and trespassed because the

729
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: place isn't open, But what was he doing there? Was

730
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: he going to like plant stuff around? Like why was

731
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: he that one month's fried? It's so weird.

732
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking he was either there, well, I

733
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: don't know why he had all that on him, but

734
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's what you were just saying, he was

735
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: planning stuff or he was trying to get the lay

736
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: of the land. Also, my first thought was, how did

737
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: he get in there and nobody noticed it, because even

738
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: if they were off season, there has to be cameras around,

739
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: so nobody picked that up at all, which is really concerning,

740
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: and the fact that this was discovered, Like, thank goodness

741
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: this ended without some mass casualty event happening, but it's

742
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: still really disturbing to know the potential behind it.

743
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: I wish all of these would happen like this, because

744
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: all of these people end up killing themselves. So just like,

745
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: why don't you just kill yourself and not drag everybody

746
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: else down with you.

747
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: It's just it's.

748
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: Seriously, I don't I really don't understand it. But so,

749
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: so this just happened what two days ago, were yesterday

750
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: or something, so that this story's still unraveling. But they

751
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: interviewed his brother apparently and said that he was very

752
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: distant from the family, he wouldn't talk to them, and

753
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: that he stayed up all night and played Call of Duty,

754
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: which I'm not sure if we could have a conversation

755
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: one day too about the whole video game situation, because

756
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: that's what you do in that game, right, is simulate

757
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: killing people that.

758
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 2: And I even had a discussion with you last week

759
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: because the kids were playing Roadblocks and they were like, oh,

760
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: I just shot him, and I'm like, what are you

761
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: talking about? And there's a Cops and Robbers game in Roadblocks,

762
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is great to make a gun

763
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: or oriented game about killing people for a game specifically

764
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: designed for young children.

765
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is that these games have existed

766
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: since the time I was a kid that I remember

767
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: playing games like that on Nintendo and stuff. We even

768
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: our Nintendo when I was a kid had a gun

769
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: like instead of a controller. So I think it was

770
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: for like duck hunt or something. I mean, you were

771
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: shooting animals or whatever.

772
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: But still.

773
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: I think there's that Some people say that there's a correlation,

774
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: and then other people are like I know people that

775
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: are like I personally know people that have played Coal

776
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: Duty and they don't kill anybody. So it's like it's

777
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: just another piece of the puzzle. I guess you would say,

778
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: but this this kid, he's only twenty years old, Like

779
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: nothing's coming up on him so far, not even a

780
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: parking ticket.

781
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: So it's like you have Robert cart.

782
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: On the one hand from the main shooting that has

783
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: this whole rap sheet and this whole history, and then

784
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: you have this guy, which is even scarier to be honest,

785
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: because how would you even pick this up. He's just

786
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: under the radar, basically, is what they're saying.

787
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely really scary to

788
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: think about, especially with what has happened in main last week,

789
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: but not fortunately because a person's life is still ended.

790
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: But fortunately it didn't result in this mass casualty event

791
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: happening in a theme park being affected because honestly, I

792
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't even go to that theme park hearing this, because

793
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: how did this guy even get in there, And they're

794
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: saying it was unclear how long he was there he

795
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: was even in there, let alone disease.

796
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

797
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: I think, I think you say that you wouldn't go there,

798
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of like, that's the safest place in

799
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: the world right now, because they're gonna like they're gonna

800
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: be on that place. But yeah, I don't know. I

801
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: don't know, just like I hate I hate having to

802
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: talk about this. I just I don't want to.

803
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: Talk about this.

804
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: I just I it really, it really is just scary

805
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: to every single time we go somewhere, we go to

806
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: the boardwalk, we go anywhere where, there's just a bunch

807
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: of people trick or treating anything. You're just like always

808
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: thinking about this stuff, and it's terrible, Like I just

809
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: want to enjoy my life and not have to worry

810
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: about that kind of stuff.

811
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: You know, Well, do you want to move on to

812
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: some lighter fare, Yes, of course.

813
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: This section is always is always the is entertaining, you

814
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: would say, usually right for the most part, but sometimes

815
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: there's upsetting stories.

816
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: But this is this is a weird one. I'm not

817
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: gonna lie.

818
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: So and our first medical well, our only medical story

819
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: today is about the excessive donations of used sex toys

820
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: to thrift stores.

821
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: So, oh, you know what.

822
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: I just thought that we were talking about the category

823
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: the following category of other dead other dead bodies or

824
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: whatever that is, but which which is usually entertaining, medical

825
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: is not is not usually entertaining, but this particular subject

826
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: is very entertaining.

827
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: Use sex toys. Yeah.

828
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, So a thrift store in the United Kingdom, which

829
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: is primarily a children's charity, has had to issue a

830
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: public statement begging people to stop donating use sex toys.

831
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: So ew, okay, the thing is is that, don't you

832
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: think it's kind of funny that, like their major concern

833
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: was because it's a children's charity, Like what about a

834
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: used sex toy putting it in the thrift store and

835
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: somebody buying it and using it, because because that could happen,

836
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: they sell like our thrift store sells weird shit. You've

837
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: seen underwear there. You've seen weird stuff.

838
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: Right, Well, you get at least I'm not justified as

839
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: I'm saying you to lease wash or bleach underwear. And

840
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: I guess you could also clean a dildough. But just

841
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: the balls on people to donate something like that is

842
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: really gross.

843
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 3: Please just throw it out.

844
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: And I guess I guess the thrift store's main concern

845
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: was that they have teenagers volunteering there, so they were like,

846
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: please stop exposing our children and donating these objects because

847
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: they're inappropriate. But to what you said, nobody's worried about

848
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: the sanitary factor.

849
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's It's true, like bacteria or whatever is

850
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: one thing, but like if someone uses a sex toy

851
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: and doesn't really clean it off and brings it to

852
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: a thrift store, like HPV hepatitis herpes can live on

853
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: surfaces for.

854
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: Days to weeks, So like that's a live.

855
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: Active virus that you can transmit that way, and that

856
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: that to me, just that should be the biggest concern

857
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: of this article. Not little kids seeing it. But you know,

858
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: a teenager might want to get a dildo half price.

859
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: They can be pretty pricey. They're like they're like eighty

860
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: dollars sometimes.

861
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: I I guess, but I just I don't even know

862
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: the type of person who would make such a purchase

863
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: at that location.

864
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: So well, do you know, you know what Franny Fine

865
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: always says is that this is the time that you

866
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: always buy retail.

867
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: You never go, you never go. You never shop retail.

868
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never you never get you never get this

869
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: half price something like a dildo, because it's too good

870
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: to be true, so you want to make sure that

871
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: you pay full price for it. Uh.

872
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's certain things you most definitely should buy brand

873
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: new out of a box, and I'm gonna wrap this

874
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: in that category. Because it's pretty disgusting. Yeah, there's a few.

875
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: I am. I'm like a huge person thrift person. I

876
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: like to get buy things that are antique stores and

877
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: everything like that. But there's certain things that like you

878
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: just don't by used. And it's definitely like things that

879
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: you insert into your body.

880
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: AE hundred percent. So back to I guess finalizing our sections.

881
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: With the other death news which you teased a little

882
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: bit earlier. There was this insane story out of Alabama

883
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: where these people had just purchased a home and they

884
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: were doing cleanup and there was a refrigerator unplugged in

885
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: the backyard, so as they start cleaning up around it,

886
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: they open it and find a human hand inside.

887
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: Like could you imagine like this?

888
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: I just think of like this young couple just like

889
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: cleaning up the backyard and la da dah.

890
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: You know, Oh yeah, there's a human hand in there. No,

891
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: I really can't imagine it. And they're saying it's the

892
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: body of a deceased nineteen year old. He had aparent

893
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: him and his parents had apparently rented the house before

894
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: it was eventually sold to this now new couple who

895
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: found the body and they think he had been in

896
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: there since potentially since June.

897
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: Well he had he was suffering from spina bifida, so

898
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: they the parents were the caregivers of the kid. And

899
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: I guess they think that the parents are under charges

900
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: right now.

901
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: They think they got arrested for his murder. They got arrested.

902
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm not sure exactly if they really determined

903
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: what the cause of his death was. But yeah, could

904
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: you imagine that just you bought a house and finding

905
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: that because people always leave their shit in the house.

906
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: When I moved in here, there was like a bunch

907
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: of stuff we had to move out, and you had

908
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: a couple of things at your house too, right, just

909
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: imagine like going through that.

910
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: I've heard some nefarious tales about the people that used

911
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: to live in my home. Yeah, so I don't even

912
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: want to know what could potentially be fine the No.

913
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: I know that's true, actually, So I don't know, don't

914
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: get into that right now.

915
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: That might be the either.

916
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: Episode that that could be a very special way down

917
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: the road episode because it's kind of really gross.

918
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I having just bought a home.

919
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: In the last couple of years, I certainly can't imagine

920
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: finding a discovery like this. I would be so disturbed,

921
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 2: and just the fridge was unplugged, so imagine how gnarly

922
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: that must have been in there. And they're saying they

923
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: found a hand, but I'm assuming that's the only recognizable.

924
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: They probably lifted the lid. It probably smelled terrible. They

925
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: probably opened it to see because they they more than

926
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: likely thought it was like rotting meat because it's a freezer.

927
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: And they technically it was.

928
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: They opened Yeah, you're right, they opened the lid, they

929
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: see a hand, and they probably shut the lid really fast,

930
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: called the police. The police came, and then they said

931
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: that's they identified it as the body, like they found

932
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: the whole body in there. So I'm not sure that

933
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: it was dismembered. It just seems like maybe all they

934
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: saw was the hand laying up there. But I just

935
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: like what I found a broken record in my wall

936
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: that was labeled star Spangled banner. That's all the good

937
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: stuff I found in my wall.

938
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Speaker 2: I'm sure we could do an entire episode of users

939
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: submissions of weird stuff people have found in their walls.

940
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 3: That might be really cool.

941
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, actually, yeah totally.

942
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: So I want to wrap up. Every week, we're gonna

943
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: answer a couple questions so they could be towards my mom, me,

944
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: both of us together. So the first couple questions we

945
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: have today, first is from our good friend Amy Loughran.

946
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: So she wants to know have you ever felt a

947
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: ghost watching you while performing an autopsy?

948
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: So Amy's the good nurse if you guys aren't familiar

949
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: with her name, and we love her. I got to

950
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: meet her in September at the Wow conference and I

951
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: just love her. We went out to dinner and we

952
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: actually have to tell this story about Gabe, about the pictures.

953
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 3: So we go out to dinner.

954
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: It was Mekara, Amy and Gabe and we went out

955
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: to dinner to this like really nice Italian restaurant and

956
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: we're eating and we're having a good time and we're laughing,

957
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: and the waiter comes over to us and says, oh,

958
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: like we're taking like selfies with each other. And he's like,

959
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: do you want me to take a picture of the

960
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: whole table? So we're like, yeah, sure, and so Cara,

961
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: I think it was Kara, hands over her phone to

962
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: this waiter and I automatically was like, what is this

963
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: dude doing.

964
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 3: He's all like over me with the.

965
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: Thing and I'm like, you know, we always Me and

966
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: Maria always complained that, like Gabe takes the worst pictures

967
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: of us ever because he always like puts the camera

968
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: down like this, and I'm like, dude, like go above

969
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: my chin. You're getting it makes me look you know.

970
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: So anyway, the guy's taking this weird angle and I

971
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,959
Speaker 1: already know like it's it's not going to look good.

972
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: And she takes back the phone and she doesn't look

973
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: at it right away way, and we're sitting there eating dinner,

974
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I look over at

975
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: Kara and Gabe and they're like crying, laughing, Like Kara,

976
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: Kara's like hyper ventilating and can't breathe because of the picture.

977
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: So we all look at it. I have to where

978
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: can I post this, like somewhere so every so so

979
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: they can see it.

980
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: I'll just post it in I can pull it up.

981
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: I could pull it up really quick because I have

982
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: it as Gabe's context. Oh no, yeah, you have what

983
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: could you pull up the whole photo though? Somehow because

984
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: it's just so good like it it looks like Gabe

985
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: is like five hundred pounds and me maybe three hundred

986
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: pounds the guy had some kind of like why, I.

987
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: Don't know if you put like the fish eye, do

988
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: we have a fish eyelands on the I think it

989
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: could be.

990
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the hell this guy did,

991
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: but you would think since he offered to take our

992
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: picture at.

993
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 3: The restaurant that he would know what he was doing.

994
00:52:58,800 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: And it is.

995
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: It's just looks so funny. And then Cara and Amy

996
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: look completely normal. It's just like it's like the toniest

997
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: picture of all time. Well, I don't have the full photo,

998
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: but I have.

999
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: It's so good.

1000
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, So she's holding up she's holding up a photo

1001
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: when Gabe calls her, that's what it looks like. So

1002
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: it's it's hilarious.

1003
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: It just it just looks so funny. It just was

1004
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: so good.

1005
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, getting back, what's what's Amy's question? She

1006
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: wants to know if I see that you.

1007
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: Ever felt a ghost watching you when you cut open

1008
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: their body? Sorry I misphrased it earlier.

1009
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: No, I so we had one of the labs that

1010
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: I used to work at I when I worked with Frank,

1011
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: who's my was my former autopsy partner and I love

1012
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: him so much. We would there was a guy that

1013
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: was working there that was a histotech, but then on

1014
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: the weekends he was like a ghost hunter and he

1015
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: always used to come in the morgue and be like,

1016
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: I really want to have a reading with you guys,

1017
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: and like clear this area out, and Frank would be like.

1018
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 3: May get the fuck out of here.

1019
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: It was just so good because like when you when

1020
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: you cut open dead people for a living, you don't

1021
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: want to talk about ghosts and stuff because no, no,

1022
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: And also like we do it so much and I've

1023
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: never had like a paranormal experience with that, and I

1024
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: feel like, not only have I done so many autopsies,

1025
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: but like I used to release all the bodies to

1026
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: the funeral home. I used to take care of the morgue,

1027
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: go down there, take the fridge temperatures every day. Like

1028
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: I've been around so many dead people, I feel like

1029
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: they would be bothering me all the time.

1030
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: But maybe I don't know. But to answer your question, no,

1031
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 3: all right, sorry, I think.

1032
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: Our second question is do you have some advice for

1033
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: new PA's or students.

1034
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: Yes, don't know, I'm just joking. Yeah, if you want to, well,

1035
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: if you're a PA student, I guess you already know

1036
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: that you want to do this as a job, and

1037
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: hopefully you shadowed a PA to make sure that you

1038
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: definitely want to do this, because I feel like as

1039
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: much as I've done a service to this field, I've

1040
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: also done a disservice because I make it look super

1041
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: glamorous to be a PA, and it sometimes the.

1042
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: Job really sucks.

1043
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: So you need to go and make sure that it's

1044
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: something that you can do for a living. Because most

1045
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: of the time the lab is like in the basement,

1046
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: or it's in some kind of room in the hospital

1047
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: that's hidden. There's no windows. Oftentimes there's no you just

1048
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: you go and work in the morning and it's dark out,

1049
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: and you leave at night and it's dark out. You

1050
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: don't even know what time of day it is because

1051
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: there's no windows and you're not around people. It's not

1052
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: like the active part of the hospital. I personally like

1053
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: that because I don't like people, but like some people

1054
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: like to be around other people. So I think that

1055
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: you should always obviously shadow someone before you even decide

1056
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: to go to PA school. Once you're in PA school,

1057
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: I think that the best thing to do is to

1058
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: get some kind of a job in the lab, like

1059
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: don't work at Starbucks on the weekends, even if it

1060
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: pays more money. I know money is an issue because

1061
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm a person and I was poor a huge part

1062
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: of my life. So it was like heart, you know,

1063
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: I was in school and I had her, I was

1064
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: a single mom. I had to work full time and

1065
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: go to school full time, and like I so get

1066
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: I get the money thing. But try really hard to

1067
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: get your foot in the door at the hospital in general,

1068
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: at the hospital, like even if you could work at

1069
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: the cafeteria at the hospital versus Starbucks, but mainly try

1070
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: to get into the lab of the hospital, even if

1071
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: you're just like putting specimens in the computer and stuff.

1072
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: It's like the best foot in the door ever.

1073
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: That's that's my advice.

1074
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: That's really good advice. So if you guys want to

1075
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 2: leave a question for us, every Friday on the Mother

1076
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: Knows Death Instagram, it's at Mother noos Death. We will

1077
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: be posting the little question box, so feel free to

1078
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: leave any questions you might have in there, and then

1079
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: we'll pick two or three to read every week.

1080
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: Awesome, please leave some for Maria this time, because I

1081
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: would really like I don't need to answer any questions.

1082
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, unless you need to know what's happening on

1083
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: the latest Real Housewive story, I am at the contribute.

1084
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: And that I don't care, but I but I know

1085
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: that I know that so many people do so many.

1086
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: Of these Bravo viewers.

1087
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: But also make sure that you check out our website,

1088
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: Thegrossroom dot com. There we do so if you like

1089
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: the Instagram account, you're really gonna like the Gross Room

1090
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: because we do lots of stories every single day we post.

1091
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: We do bigger articles, smaller articles. We have guest writers,

1092
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: and sometimes those articles are way different than anything that

1093
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: I would ever write, but very interesting information like what

1094
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: happens to your body when you go to space and

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Speaker 1: you come down, and just lots of different, really interesting

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Speaker 1: things going on every single day in the Grossroom. And

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Speaker 1: the best part of the Gross Room is that we

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Speaker 1: have a really tight knit community of people that.

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Speaker 3: We comment back and forth to each other.

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Speaker 1: We know each other's names, and it's not like social

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Speaker 1: media because the comment section isn't nasty.

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Speaker 3: It's just like people there.

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00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: Want to learn and want to be friends with each other,

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Speaker 1: and when people are nasty, we kick them out.

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Speaker 3: So it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really awesome space to have good conversations.

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Speaker 2: Even if people don't agree with each other, they're definitely

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Speaker 2: really respectful and it's not this internet troll environment.

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Speaker 1: So it's a really good community to be part of.

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Speaker 3: And if you.

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Speaker 2: Really like this podcast, you'll definitely like everything else going

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Speaker 2: on there. So I think it's even as me that

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Speaker 2: wants to pass out every time we.

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Speaker 3: Talk about blood or I see it, which I've been.

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Speaker 2: Good today, Okay, but yeah, it's it's digestible for the

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Speaker 2: regular person, and that's the coolest part of it.

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Speaker 1: So wait, I have a question, since since needles bother you,

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Speaker 1: does the whole like slicing of the throat thing bother you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but not as much. I just can't explain it.

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Speaker 2: I think we've come to the conclusion I might have

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Speaker 2: white coat syndrome, where I think I think of going

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Speaker 2: to the doctor. When I'm at the doctor, that's when

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Speaker 2: I get really queasy because I've been as a hobby

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Speaker 2: embroidering a lot lately and I stab myself quite often

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Speaker 2: by accident, and it doesn't bother me at all.

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Speaker 3: I just I just can't get to the root of it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like fluid coming out.

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Speaker 3: I don't like.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I really don't no, No, I'm having

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Speaker 2: a hard time figuring out where the root of it

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Speaker 2: is so I could get over my almost thirty year

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Speaker 2: long life time fear.

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Speaker 3: You might have to talk to.

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Speaker 1: A psychiatrist about this and see if your mother induced

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Speaker 1: any kind of like childhood trauma on you or something.

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Speaker 3: Do you think seeing an.

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Speaker 1: Autopsy at eight years old, perhaps you were like thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Please, that's kind of young.

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Speaker 1: If you were old enough, it's fine, You're good, eh.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, well, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: It was great having you on our first episode and

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Speaker 1: let us know, give us some feedback. Bye bye, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to Mother Knows Death. As a reminder,

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Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologist assistant. I have a

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Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

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Speaker 1: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

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Speaker 1: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

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Speaker 1: a licensed medical doctor. This show, website, and social media

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Speaker 1: accounts are designed to educate and inform people based on

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Speaker 1: my experience working in pathology, so they can make healthier

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Speaker 1: decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember that

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Speaker 1: science is changing every day, and these opinions expressed in

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Speaker 1: this episode are based on my knowledge of those subjects

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Speaker 1: at the time of publication. If you are having a

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