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Speaker 1: the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the tough five quarterback to my

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Speaker 1: get to that. Yeah, we got a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: going here, so let's not mess around. Let's jump in

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Speaker 1: real quick here. Florida State just had their pro day.

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, uh talking to scouts that were there anywhere

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Speaker 1: an outstanding field workout, caught the ball really easy, saw

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Speaker 1: It would be a nice fit. And just winted about

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Speaker 1: some many other stuff he has to get through. Yeah, look,

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Speaker 1: those are some some good fits for him there. How

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Speaker 1: about in terms of the running back order. And we'll

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Speaker 1: get into your top five lists on your quarterbacks here

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Speaker 1: a little bit later. And by the way, for your

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Speaker 1: entire top five list. You go to NFL dot com slash.

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Speaker 1: I think you try to Bucky, but maybe Bucky top five.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure that out. But you can find all your

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Speaker 1: your list dot com. So when you look at where

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Speaker 1: where you have Mucky. Where you think he comes off board,

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey has momentum that he will go over top

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Speaker 1: So that's why I have him ranked second. But I

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Speaker 1: mean there's some there're some intriguing places. I think a

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Speaker 1: Let's get a status report. Then here little progress report.

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Speaker 1: So the progress of war. Where we are now thirty

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Speaker 1: Brooks to see his entire top five list. Buck. But

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Speaker 1: Oh that that's a beauty there, Bucky. Frankie Ferrara, I

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Speaker 1: learn behind a Perienneer Pro Bowl and Philip Rivers. This

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Speaker 1: the motor, the burst. There you see it at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the screen. Thirteen sacks, seventeen and a half

428
00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,480
Speaker 1: tackles for lost. I thought he did a pretty good

429
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,000
Speaker 1: job at the Senior Bowl. When I had a chance

430
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,760
Speaker 1: to watch him, he is someone who's gonna have an

431
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,760
Speaker 1: opportunity to be a terrific player off the edge. Give

432
00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,439
Speaker 1: me the play by play. Let's tell me that he

433
00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,600
Speaker 1: sacks the San Diego quarterback. How would you how would

434
00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,720
Speaker 1: you broadcast Derrick Ravers off the edge? Dal goes Rivers.

435
00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,280
Speaker 1: It's Rivers on rivers. There's rivers everywhere. All right. Let's

436
00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,440
Speaker 1: move on now to the Oakland soon to be Vegas

437
00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,600
Speaker 1: Raiders and they hold the twenty four overall pick Bucky.

438
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,440
Speaker 1: I'll give you this one. Here we go the late grade.

439
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,399
Speaker 1: Al Davis loves his corners, and he loves him long

440
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,160
Speaker 1: and fast. Kevin king Fist to Bill long Rangey playmaker

441
00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,359
Speaker 1: on the outside from the University of Washington, and I

442
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,480
Speaker 1: know he kind of lived in the shadows of the

443
00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,639
Speaker 1: more acclaimed Sidney Jones. But this is a guy that

444
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,560
Speaker 1: when you talk to people, they just talked about him

445
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 1: doing all the right things. A plus guy, a plus worker,

446
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,480
Speaker 1: understands the game, spends time in the film room, and

447
00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,320
Speaker 1: his game reflects that has tremendous instincts, awareness and anticipation,

448
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,399
Speaker 1: just plays the game the right way. At twenty four,

449
00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,959
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders will be happy to get a long

450
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,920
Speaker 1: range of player like this. Yeah. No, I think he's

451
00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,359
Speaker 1: definitely in the mix there in the in the mid

452
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,960
Speaker 1: the late portion of round one. I think that's where

453
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,679
Speaker 1: you're gonna Seekevin King go off the board and a

454
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,520
Speaker 1: very very talented kid. All right, let's go pick number

455
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Speaker 1: fifty six. Second round. Let's go ahead and get a

456
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Speaker 1: big back for these Oakland Raiders. Let's go add a

457
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,760
Speaker 1: little Dante Foreman from Texas who just had his pro

458
00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,840
Speaker 1: day Bucky and I heard some crazy times for guts

459
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,240
Speaker 1: almost two forty and ran in the mid four four.

460
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,000
Speaker 1: So to me, he'd be a nice player, a nice

461
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 1: push guy to put in the mix there with the Raiders.

462
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,040
Speaker 1: They've got some interesting backs they have in place there.

463
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 1: But man, I would love to see what he could do.

464
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 1: I would love to see what he can do if

465
00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to kind of enjoy to kind

466
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Speaker 1: of tease the idea of taking Marshawn Lynch. This is

467
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,360
Speaker 1: the guy that's a big, younger version of Marshawn Lynch

468
00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 1: in terms of being able to run between the tackle

469
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,919
Speaker 1: you at at four four speed. He can take it

470
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,639
Speaker 1: to distance as well. He'd complement what they have on campus.

471
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,719
Speaker 1: There right now, last team in the division, Kansas City Chiefs,

472
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 1: pick number twenty seven. We've both kind of hinted at

473
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 1: this possibility, so let's just go ahead and put it

474
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 1: out there. Deshaun Watson's right, that makes some sense for

475
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, doesn't It makes a lot of sense for

476
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,200
Speaker 1: the Kanna City Chiefs when you go back and look

477
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,119
Speaker 1: at any reachtrack record and what he's been able to

478
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 1: do with athletic quarterbacks. How a tremendous amount of success.

479
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 1: Alex Smith Deshaun Watson, Actually, that's very similar games when

480
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 1: you watched him on tape. I believe this would be

481
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 1: the perfect fit. He can sit and watch a guy

482
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 1: who was a winner and Alex Smith apply his trade

483
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: in Kanna City area. Yeah, really really similar when you

484
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 1: kind of look at the success they had in college.

485
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,360
Speaker 1: Similar athletes, UM, similar skill sets. So no, I think

486
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 1: that would be a great opportunity for him. Coach Reid

487
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 1: haven't been around him with the Eagles. UM. He's always

488
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: looking for a quarterback to develop, and this would be

489
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: a great candidate and could have a big payoff for

490
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 1: them down the line. Now we get to the second round, Bucky,

491
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 1: we're thinking defense. Yeah, we're thinking defense, and we think

492
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 1: if we're possibly a replacement for Dontry Poe he departed

493
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 1: as a free agent. He goes nowhere Atlanta. You need

494
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: someone big in the inside. There can be a power player,

495
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 1: a guy that can move people, create penetration. How about

496
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: Montrevious Adams, big physical player. When you watched him at

497
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,479
Speaker 1: a senior Bowl, he was unblockable in one on one drills,

498
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: great hands, has catlike quickness, surprising for a man of

499
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 1: his size. He is someone that I think you can

500
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: plug in the middle of the defense and have a

501
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 1: tremendous impact right away. How about you pair him up

502
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 1: with Benny Logan, who they just brought over. Really skill

503
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 1: set wise similar to to a Benny Logan and what

504
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: he can do. I'd like to see those guys play

505
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 1: side by side. You've got Chris Jones in the mix there.

506
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 1: Now you've got a rotation. Get those guys rolling through there. Uh,

507
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: that would be outstanding, buck, All right, tell you what

508
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 1: that's that's the a f C West. We've got the

509
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 1: perfect pairings going there. Now. A team in the a

510
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: f C East that we've talked about before on here,

511
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins ten and six last season. This is

512
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: a big year for them. Adam Gates did a great

513
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: job last year. Chris Greer young general manager, They're one

514
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: of the bright young stars in the personnel community in

515
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 1: our opinion. To see where they go forward. And I

516
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 1: know you had a chance to to sit down with

517
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Speaker 1: Chris Greer. So this is your conversation with Chris kind

518
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: of a state of the franchise here for the Miami Dolphins.

519
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: Chris Career. You're entering your second season as gentle manager

520
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins. I think every team talks about

521
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: the court traits that they look for and players beyond

522
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: the athleticism and stuff. So for the Dolphins, what are

523
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: some of the things that you look for in these

524
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: prospects when you make an evaluation. I'm big on prototypes.

525
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: That's you know, my background, it's you know the you know,

526
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: coach Parcels. We did it with Pete Carroll, we did

527
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: it with Nick Saban, Coach Belichick when I was there.

528
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: I think it's important to know what you're looking for

529
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: in your team. It's not something that you can't be

530
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 1: like too strict and say like every player doesn't fit

531
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: because like in Jarvis Landry what a player we took

532
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 1: would not be a prototype player self admitted he looks

533
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: terrible at the combine right there. You would have a

534
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: letter grade that would identify that he lacks some of

535
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: the athletic testing numbers. But when you watch them on film,

536
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: he was a dominant player in college. And so you

537
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 1: can have prototypes, but you can't let it blind you.

538
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: You just gotta see the tape will always tell you

539
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: what the player is. Adam Gaze a known quarterback developer.

540
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: For first year head coach, your first time general manager,

541
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: how do you put all that together to make sure

542
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: that their quarterback who's central to your success, has everything

543
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: that he needs to be successful. Yah. I think if

544
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: you asked Adam, he would tell you what attracted him

545
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: to our job with Ryan. You know, he had seen

546
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: him in the past and wanted to kind of work

547
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: with him. And and I think Adam has a tremendous

548
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: feel for the details and kind of what makes a

549
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: guy tick. He'll try and fix the person off the

550
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: field before in terms of Okay, this is what we

551
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: need to develop a leadership, or this is what we

552
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: want to do to improve this area, and what can

553
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: we do and then then it goes and tell okay,

554
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 1: the study habits. So Adam is a very unique way

555
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: of how he breaks things down. And then to develop

556
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: that relationship with Ryan. It's kind of special watching the

557
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: two of them because you know, Ryan is, like I said,

558
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: a tremendous person, very smart, but Adam's kind of brought

559
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: another side of him out, which is funny to see,

560
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: but you have to be around him to see it.

561
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: And in terms of with Adam and I, it's been

562
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 1: an easy relationship from day one. I mean, you know,

563
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: at him, I mean, he's he has a scouting background,

564
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: so he appreciates what we do and he's he's been

565
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: very honest. He's like, hey, whatever you believe, and he goes,

566
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: I trust you. We had, you know, a good offseason

567
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: draft last year, and he's just like, hey, tell me

568
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: who I need to look at. I'll look at and

569
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: and and let's roll and so it's it's been fun.

570
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Bucky, but man, I was

571
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: excited when he got that gig. Somebody that's really worked

572
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: his way up through the process and and really a

573
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: kind of a scout scout, very respected in Chris career,

574
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: very respected. They have done a great job of putting

575
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: together a nice product on the field, and it's only

576
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: getting better. To the coaching staff. Now is one that

577
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: can develop those young players and begin to see the

578
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: product of their work on the field. All right, we're

579
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: looking for a couple of instant impact players for the

580
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. They pick at number twenty two in the

581
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: first round of the draft. So we just came up

582
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: with the name of a guy we think you can

583
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: drop in their plug and play, making immediate impact, maybe

584
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: help them get that extra winner two they're looking for. There.

585
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tack McKinley from u c L. A edge rusher.

586
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: You talk about a fastball coming off the edge. This

587
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: guy plays with unbelieving, evable effort. He's a look, he's

588
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: a hundred meter guy in high school. I think you're

589
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: in ten six, So you know what kind of athlete

590
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: he is and how what kind of closing burst he possesses.

591
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: We always talk about it on the Movie six podcast, though,

592
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: Bucky the most underrated aspect of a pass rusher effort, effort,

593
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: being able to get him down, being able to collect

594
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: those garbage sacks just because you out work the blocker.

595
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: He has that a build that he is a NonStop motor.

596
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: I kind of wrote down in my nose he's an

597
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: energy as a bunny. The guy doesn't stop. He's going

598
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: to be a handful for you to block off the edge.

599
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 1: All right, That's that's why I got tack mckinlly. Give

600
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: me another player, maybe another defensive player that drop right

601
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: in and play and help him out. How about Buddha

602
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: Baker and Buddha Baker. I'm talking about a guy in

603
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: the second round that would be a nice fit for them.

604
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: We talk about teams being in nickel about seventy percent

605
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: of the time. He is the best nickel on the board,

606
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: nickel corner, nickel safety. However you want to deploy him.

607
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: He has that ability blisses off the edge. Is a

608
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: tough and physical tackler. He also has great instincts. He

609
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: plays the game the right way. He could be an

610
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: impact player for the Dolphins in the secondary. He's one

611
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: of my favorite players to watch because all the different

612
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: things he can do. Now, one of the things you'll

613
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: probably be asked to do at the next level is

614
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: match up and cover tight ends. Speaking of tight ends,

615
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: I had a chance to sit down with one of

616
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: the top tight ends in this draft class. Both teams

617
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: have him as a second tight end. Would be shocked

618
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: if some even had him as the number one tight

619
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: end in this draft class. That's Miami's David and Joco

620
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: got a chance to chat with him, and uh, pretty interesting, fella, David,

621
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: how you doing man? Great? How are you doing good?

622
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: How's this this process been for? You can be long

623
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: and grinding. I know that it's a lessing. You know,

624
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: it's less going to be here. It's very excited. All right.

625
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: So where you are in the process, You've got your

626
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: protect coming up at the at the end of the month.

627
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: You've got some team visits taking place. Do you have

628
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: any any private workouts set up as well with teams? Yeah,

629
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: my agent, Malchikawa is setting all that up. You know

630
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be very hectic, but you know these

631
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: are good problems. Yeah, we're gonna be in Philadelphia before

632
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: you know it, and you're gonna know where you're going

633
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be it's gonna be all gravy from there.

634
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: I want to get a little bit of your back

635
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: story here. Tell me a little bit about your your family,

636
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: because you got a very unique situation right, okay, so

637
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: um uh two parents, same parents. Uh, there's nine of

638
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: us who have eight blinks. My oldest brother, Innocent he

639
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: um if he finished medical school a Cornell he's now

640
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: a neurse surgeon in upstate New York. Uh. Chelsea, she's

641
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: a nurse in New Jersey. Lisa is finishing school if

642
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: she has like a semester left or so. Faith is

643
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: actually with us right now, she's Uh, she's in medical

644
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: school here in California. Glad has finished UM College in

645
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: New Jersey with the degree of mechanical engineering. Um. Happiness

646
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: is already married. She's in the religious area. She's she's

647
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: married a pastor. So she's doing really well there. Um,

648
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: I believe in two years now. Uh. Then there's me

649
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: and Evidence, who signed to play at the University of

650
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: Miami next uh next next season receiver at like six six,

651
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: like two or five, he's a beast's And then there's

652
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: child who was a sophomore in high school, who I

653
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: think is gonna better than all of us. So we'll see.

654
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: That's that's a pretty accomplished family if you get yourself there.

655
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: And then again you we've talked before, but about your

656
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: dad in his background and he's a unique background as well.

657
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: Uh so yeah, Um, he used to own an airline

658
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Um, now he's to the old refinery

659
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: uh area. So he's he's doing pretty well in his nickname. Uh.

660
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: They called him Chief and now they call him me Chief.

661
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: So you got you get the chief as well. Because

662
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: because you guys look alike, is that if you look

663
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: very similar together? Souffy Yeah, yeah, alright, cool, Look you're off.

664
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: I've told you your offensive line coach their Miami this last.

665
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: Your Stacy serves my offensive line coach in college at

666
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Appalachian State. You didn't have to do app State like

667
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: that the way the Hurricanes came in the need that

668
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: there's nothing personal. You know, it's this you know it

669
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: felt personally if it did feel personal the way you did.

670
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: But I've already asked him, but what would what would

671
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: your coaches say about you as a football player? What

672
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: would they say? They're getting NFL team is gonna get

673
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: in Mr and chew Right, they say, I'm very competitive,

674
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: you know when it comes to practice, I hate losing

675
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: one on ones. I refused to you know, so I'm

676
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: very competitive. Um, I work hard. I remember I'm a

677
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: little goofy, you know, I like, like, you know, having fun,

678
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: but you know it's time for everything. Uh so and

679
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm uh, you know, ready to to get this going.

680
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: So your new coaching staff comes in there with coach

681
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: Rick did they did? They early on realize, okay, we

682
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: can do some different things with you. Because when I

683
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: when I watch you on tape and when I got

684
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: a chance to you played live, they do kind of

685
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: some unconventional things with you, giving you tunnel screens, bubble screens,

686
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff you would design for a wide

687
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: receiver they designed for you. What was that like? It

688
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: that new staff in there and try and work the

689
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: offense around you. It was good. Uh. I feel like, um,

690
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: it made me a lot more versatile than I was.

691
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean I was I was before, but it made

692
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: me even better. So, um, the defense doesn't know what

693
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We can win a bubble, I can

694
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: go a block, or I could win a route where

695
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: I can you know, I can do anything. So it

696
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: was it was good that, um we didn't switch it

697
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: up to make it easier for defense. Knowing that what

698
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, I'm gonna put some tape in the

699
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: in the monitor behind us here in a second, I'm

700
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: gonna do it. Have a guy that you remind me

701
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: of it? First of all, is there any player that

702
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: you kind of admired growing up at the position or

703
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: that you see a little yourself in? UM, I'd tell

704
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy Shocky. Obviously a bunch of greats at Miami, Greg

705
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: Olsen kinda went was low, Jimmy Graham, but I feel

706
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Shocky, He's like when I watched him I

707
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: was younger, he was just like that my my bow model.

708
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: And now he's one of my really close friends. So

709
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy how how light works. It's amazing how

710
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: man people forget about count ones with two. I was

711
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: with the Browns when he was there, and you talked

712
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: about a dynamic, explosive athletes. But your explosiveness and athleticism

713
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: to me, I thought you were a bigger version of

714
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis when when I evaluated Vernon Davis coming into

715
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: the league. So we've got some Vernon Davis footage back here,

716
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: so I want to let you watch him a little bit.

717
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know how much of Vernon

718
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: Davis you've seen in the past. Now you see him

719
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: with the with the Washington Redskins. Not quite the same

720
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: guy he was when he was young. But of course,

721
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: but give me your give me your take here. When

722
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: and when you have an athletic titan like him, like yourself,

723
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: what that can do for and all? Oh my god,

724
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's just like it's an honor to me.

725
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: Put in that conversation. You know, he's a he's a beast.

726
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: He's he's very emotional. That's awesome. He's emotional. I don't

727
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: know if you've got do you have any tears, any

728
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: stories you crying on a football field? Uh? Yeah, of course.

729
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: Um after the Duke game when I was a junior, Um,

730
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 1: you know, after that crazy play. Uh it was this

731
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 1: was the long kick. Yeah yeah, Um, everyone, you know,

732
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: me and myself included, we knew, like you know, god,

733
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: it was working at night. Um, it was five seconds left,

734
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: we were down, No one thought we could come back

735
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: for that, and we ended up scoring touchdown and winning

736
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: the game. It was, it was very emotional at night.

737
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: I want to get one more thinging before I get

738
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: to your big three questions here. Um, your track background

739
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: to me, that's unique. I've been scouting for a long time,

740
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: and I've had a bunch of receivers. I've looked back

741
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: at their track background and I've seen I remember, like

742
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Hank Basket was a wide receiver back in the day,

743
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: was a seven foot high jumper. We made such a

744
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: big deal about this in our draft room. You know,

745
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: he was kind of a later round guy. But man,

746
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: seven foot highjumpers, no joke. Tell him what you jumped in?

747
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: How big you were when you I jumped? Uh? In

748
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: high school, I jumped seven ft one inch. I was

749
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: too funny. And last year I I also ran tracking.

750
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: Um in college, I jumped six ten and a quarter.

751
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: I was too forty. It's a ridiculous, man. Anyways, that

752
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: just speaks to the athleticism David brings to the table there,

753
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: all right, Uh, threeh is We asked these questions all

754
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: our guests that come on. I'll start you off first

755
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: with here, what's the greatest hardship you've had to overcome

756
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: in your life? UM? I guess this, you know, staying focused,

757
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, being living in Miami. Uh, it's a bunch

758
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: of distractions, as you may know, UM, in every aspect

759
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, so just to be focused throughout these last

760
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, a few years, and now even more more

761
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: than ever. It was it was definitely difficult to not

762
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, do what everyone else does, and you know,

763
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: just be your own person and and just work hard

764
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: and you know, stay levelheaded spiritually, monthly and physically. Um um,

765
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm really glad where I'm at right now. So avoiding

766
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: the peer pressure, eyes on the prize and and and

767
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 1: keep going there. All right, So we talked about your hardship.

768
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: How about you the greatest highlight of of your athletic career,

769
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: what would that be? To be honest, it was winning

770
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: a bowl game? You know, uh uh, my team we

771
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: haven't won on boll game in a very long time.

772
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: I'd say about about a decade, they said. And um

773
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: with the new staff, you know, coach Rick was really

774
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: high on that, and I was too. You know, I

775
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to leave school uh uh college without winning

776
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: a bowl game, you know, my whole life. That's you know,

777
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: that's that's not a good you know, ring to it. Um.

778
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: So the bowl game winning that, you know, just sharing

779
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: that moment with my teammates, my family, you know, my

780
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: family came. Everyone was so emotional. It was it was

781
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing to see. I was at that ball game.

782
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: You had a great game there as well. All right,

783
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: last one, and that's a simple one. Who's your hero?

784
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: My hero? Um, that's a good question I have. I

785
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: have a bunch of heroes. You know. I'll give you

786
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: an exemption. I'm gonna give you a couple. Give me

787
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: a couple of your heroes, all right, my hero. UM,

788
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put in one category of my whole family,

789
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, just like everyone you know my family have

790
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: a big family. Of course, so you get in trouble

791
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: if you single out one of your sins. Don't do that,

792
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, just everybody you know, Uh, my oldest brother

793
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: to you know, Faith, who's here right now. Um, like

794
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: they always did that. They they never gave up on me,

795
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: even though I was at my my lowest low to

796
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: high as a high. You know. It was straight you know,

797
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: love and family, compassion, you know, Uh, and that takes

798
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: it goes a long way. It gave me the curge

799
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: to pursue this goal and continue even though it was

800
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: very hard. Um. A couple of mentors, Pepe Garcia, Joel Merrison. Uh,

801
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: you know they talked to me along the way as well.

802
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: They were helping me, you know, they were showing me

803
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: the way, like how like how to keep striving and

804
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: driving me shocky. You know, even uh, you know my

805
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: my teammates that now you know, Brad Kayak stand O,

806
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: Bar Chris herndon Um, even Liqui was here. Whose second

807
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: string quarterback? You know it was. It was everyone's like,

808
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 1: you know, making sure that we're all focused, we're all

809
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: ready to go, and we take care of each other.

810
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: So it means a lot to me. That's awesome. He

811
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: just set the record for most heroes and I like

812
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: that about You got a lot of people that have

813
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: had a big influence on you. And man, you are

814
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: a fun player. Watching my twelfth overall player right now

815
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: in this draft class, I think this guy is a

816
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: locked to be a first round pick. He's gonna make

817
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: some team very very happy. This is a great football player,

818
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: really good dude. David and Joku, thanks, thanks, stop, thank you.

819
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the family story that David and

820
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Joku has, I mean, just how successful, how wildly successful

821
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: everybody in his entire family has been. It just makes

822
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: you think there's no way this kid's gonna do anything

823
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: but be successful in the NFL. Yeah, we guys are

824
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: why you're the right way. They have the right makeup,

825
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: then you really are willing to bank on their ability

826
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: to succeed. He has all the physical trades, but his

827
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: mentality is what we'll separate him from others at a position.

828
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: And you talk about just a rare athlete high jumping

829
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: over seven feet that is ridiculous. So he's gonna be

830
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: a fun one to watch to see where he lands

831
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: in this draft, what kind of instant impact he'll have, Bucky.

832
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, man, we had a jam

833
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: pack show today. We weren't lying when we said, uh,

834
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: this might be the I think it's the best one

835
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Speaker 1: we've done. It might been the US and one we

836
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: were on the trademill though, get going, we're moving, We're moving.

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