WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Numbers Game

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Cowboys Break, presented bys WBC Mortgage Studio

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<v Speaker 1>member gar See I, joined by Nickiman and David Hellman. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Derek is not here right now, but he might join

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<v Speaker 1>us later in the show. We'll see. We never know

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<v Speaker 1>what Devis is gonna do. You just get to make

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<v Speaker 1>up the rules if you run the department. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. Yeah, he's just kinda want to get called

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<v Speaker 1>to meetings upstairs. Yeah, you know the people that call

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<v Speaker 1>him into meetings. I guess you can't afford to turn

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<v Speaker 1>them down. I think it's probably been where he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to come up for a meeting. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a show at eleven thirty, and they're like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and and yeah, and then and then you're like and

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<v Speaker 1>then he okay, I'll see all next week. Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't know. Either you're committed to the

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<v Speaker 1>show or you're not. Whatever you tell that, you tell

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<v Speaker 1>that to someone named Jones, I dare you. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into it today. We heard some news, some

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<v Speaker 1>updates that are currently happening, as far as a signing

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<v Speaker 1>that's about to happen. I know the Cowboys as of

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<v Speaker 1>right now have agreed to terms with a punter, um

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<v Speaker 1>Jared what was his name, Brian, And we love to

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<v Speaker 1>joke about how it like the timing is always bad

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<v Speaker 1>in our industry, but that was perfect. Like we were

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of sitting around waiting to do the show

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<v Speaker 1>and it came down and got it written and taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of and got it confirmed. Yeah yeah, like thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds later. Like yeah, that's the biggest thing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know fans out there that that see other stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>people can do things really loosely and agreed to terms

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<v Speaker 1>according to sources and stuff like that, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit harder for us. So we get calls from

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth Avenue in New York if we don't cross all

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<v Speaker 1>ourts and dot allR right, right, So we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it's good. So when we when we get

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<v Speaker 1>that agreed to terms text message or call that we

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<v Speaker 1>were happy about that. But you know, speaking of the position,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that we're talking about a veteran

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<v Speaker 1>guy here, and I thought Hunter nice wonder did a

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<v Speaker 1>nice job, did a nice job, did a nice wonder job.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year better than we've ever seen he really, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean from in the last ten years. I mean, his

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<v Speaker 1>his average was better than what we've seen out of

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jones. But you know, he's he didn't do enough

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, that's your job. I literally was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of tinkering with the depth chart and just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the draft last night, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like Hunter was good last year, But in any given year,

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<v Speaker 1>how many punters are so good in the NFL that

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<v Speaker 1>they you shouldn't try to have a competition, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe maybe there's one like Leckler has been that

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<v Speaker 1>guy for a long time. Probably Johnny Hecker's in that

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<v Speaker 1>category where you're just like, oh, we're fine, but a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that played nine games for you, like absolutely not,

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<v Speaker 1>like bring in some competition. This this will be great.

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<v Speaker 1>And twelve hours later they did, so, Yeah, what I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about this because again I just got um,

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<v Speaker 1>he just got agreed to you know, the terms here.

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<v Speaker 1>But is he if he's a kickoff guy, he did

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<v Speaker 1>do kickoffs in Houston Lafe. See that changes things a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit from the standpoint of what you want Zerline

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing and how much you want his leg

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because his team's gonna score, and they score points,

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<v Speaker 1>they kick off a lot, you want to have that

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<v Speaker 1>option of him doing that also, holder, you know, just depends.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the whole package. And you said he was

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<v Speaker 1>drafted there's a joke keeps drafted higher than It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a joke, like, I mean, no offense to him that

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<v Speaker 1>his lasting legacy is that he was he was taken

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of Russell Wilson, the jack. The Jags drafted a

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<v Speaker 1>punter over a guy that's, you know, argue, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best two or three quarterbacks in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had portals. Yeah, yeah, no, they were good,

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<v Speaker 1>they were Yeah. Russ was pick seventy five and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four. Other guys were taken in front of us too.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it's a punter, like where was he taken?

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Inger? He was pick seventy by the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 1>Third round. What school? Uh, California? Okay, I remember there

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<v Speaker 1>was there was a lot of hype on him coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a very good player. But like you just

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<v Speaker 1>in same you know Roberto Aguayo, the guy that the

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<v Speaker 1>FS guy, one of the best college kickers of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think he missed one in four years. But

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't draft special Texas punter Dixon. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a fifth or sixth round pick, Which that's fine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird if there's a guy that you love

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<v Speaker 1>that you went like, sixth round is where I start

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that's a good idea. Maybe fifth if he's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But third round for a punter Andy with Jacksonville and

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<v Speaker 1>he went to Houston, so he went well, he went

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<v Speaker 1>to Tampa before like he played all four years with

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<v Speaker 1>the Jags, but they didn't resign him. So four years

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<v Speaker 1>of a decent punter over Russell Wilson, the hold on

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<v Speaker 1>cal Berkeley drafted by Jacksonville, went to Tampa. Where we going?

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<v Speaker 1>Euston Dallas, what do you think? I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't like kicking in the cold. That's well, that's fair,

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<v Speaker 1>fair enough. Who does who does well? He made his

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<v Speaker 1>way to Dallas. Now he's over here, He's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>over here, and a healthy competition there at the position.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what just ends up happening. Interesting time, though,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is a time where things usually tend to

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<v Speaker 1>calm down with free agency and you start turning your

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<v Speaker 1>attention around and focusing more on the draft. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys think that the Cowboys will be signing anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>or any at any other position here in the near

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<v Speaker 1>future before the draft? I I think that you could.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think what they did last year. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you can't compare anything to last year, how

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<v Speaker 1>crazy it was, but I feel like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are guys out there that you sign. The Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are expected to bring in even a tight end today,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to take a physical and if he passes,

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<v Speaker 1>they could sign him. Jeremy Sprinkle, he's been in the

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<v Speaker 1>league for a few years, but that's not official move

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<v Speaker 1>or anything that that's pending a physical. And and also

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<v Speaker 1>just to clarify, I would kind of hard some things too.

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<v Speaker 1>Kean O'Neill agree to terms. They're waiting for him to

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<v Speaker 1>get a physical, he's waiting to fly here. He's dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with some medical issues. Nothing major, nothing, they're they're alarmed about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest question fans want to know is

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<v Speaker 1>what's he gonna wear with jersey? Because he war twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great segue. Do we just want to do?

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<v Speaker 1>We just want to get all this uniform madness out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. Which is gonna wear twenty two? No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not. And Jalen's wearing nine, and I saw Gallup

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<v Speaker 1>was going to switch into number four. We'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>Dak does. I think eight's available for any we're joking

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<v Speaker 1>if yeah, I can't assume any Everybody listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>is all over Twitter, so I don't want to confuse anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, what's going on with the does't divide this

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<v Speaker 1>into two parts? Number one? Is this an actual thing?

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<v Speaker 1>We know that the league is waiting to approve. It's

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<v Speaker 1>winning on approval, and it's something that's depending It is

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<v Speaker 1>an actual thing. The Kansas City Chiefs have proposed a

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<v Speaker 1>rule that would allow basically skill players to wear a

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<v Speaker 1>much wider range of numbers. So, like you know, receivers

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<v Speaker 1>can only wear ten to nineteen and eighty to eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, this rule would allow them to wear one

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen as well as eighty to eighty nine. Running

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<v Speaker 1>Backs can wear single digit numbers linebackers as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>basically everybody but offensive and defensive lineman, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks can wear anything from like one to fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>more or less. So you're seeing a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. Obviously, that's a thing in college football.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith famously war nine for Notre Dame. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>the reason he chose fifty four was because it adds

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<v Speaker 1>up to nine. Nine is a big thing for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sure why, but it's his number. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen guys around the league, you know Odell Beckham war

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<v Speaker 1>three in college. This would allow him to switch to

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<v Speaker 1>three if he wanted to, just to It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal, but people love talking uniforms. So man, how

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<v Speaker 1>likely are the Cowboys though, to accept because I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine you have to the Cowboys have to accept a

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<v Speaker 1>player's proposal to like, oh kind of change to this number.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have to accept it. They're spend many of

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<v Speaker 1>people that want to wear number twelve and number eighty

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<v Speaker 1>eight and number twenty two and stuff like that and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four. No one's ever worned seventy four other than

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what I'm saying, like, you basically need the

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<v Speaker 1>cowboys approval, whether they say yeah no, the Cowboys how

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<v Speaker 1>to accept or not accept, right, So there's before we

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<v Speaker 1>get there, though, there are there are some things. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're going to change the rule, they could change

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<v Speaker 1>multiple rules, but in the past you had to put

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<v Speaker 1>a request for like two years. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they're going to still do that. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what gets lost in all of this. And the rule

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't even been approved. There's another there's another competition owners

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<v Speaker 1>meeting later. They already had one here in Dallas. There's

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<v Speaker 1>another one later this spring, so they'll vote on that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sometime in May. They'll vote and see if

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<v Speaker 1>it even gets approved. But if it does, that's I

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<v Speaker 1>think the intricacies of this kind of get lost because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if um, I don't know if if Cedric

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson wants to change is ur is that a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not like we've you know, Jordan Lewis and Cheetah

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<v Speaker 1>Woozier have done it in recent years and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal, but you know, Jalen Smith and Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Gallup and Amari Cooper are and Ezekiel Elliott Zeke got

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<v Speaker 1>in on it this morning. He said, yeah, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to wear fifteen again. That was his number at Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>These are guys that sell tens of millions of units

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<v Speaker 1>of merchandise, and I just feel like there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more to it than that than there's two ways

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<v Speaker 1>roll enough to work on a Wednesday and saying I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen now, yeah, because that's I mean, that's a big

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<v Speaker 1>monetary decision when you're talking about guys that have their

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<v Speaker 1>jerseys in every sporting goods store in America. So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be seeing if it passes, which that's I keep saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not even a rule yet, but if it passes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it and it happened before that too, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about current players. I remember, you know Roy

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<v Speaker 1>Williams wore thirty one, five time pro bowler and then

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<v Speaker 1>he switched to thirty eight, and he did it because

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of needed a change. Marcus Spears same thing

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six to ninety eight. You know, maybe that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith needs. But let's bring it back towards that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why he need. Let's bring it back towards that.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is an interesting one because it's it deals

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<v Speaker 1>with two players that I think are the most polarizing

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<v Speaker 1>players in their of their time. That depending on the

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<v Speaker 1>fan base, some of them, you know, love the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>hate the guy, whatever, And there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that hate Ramo. They just thought he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not anymore. They definitely did. They did, Yeah, they did.

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<v Speaker 1>So are we really about to have this conversation? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>get ready, age seriously waiting it. This is the most

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous conversation right here. What you're about to say, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take it away. Take it away because you got more,

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<v Speaker 1>you got more passionate about it than I know. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even like it doesn't go even on the

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<v Speaker 1>same sentence. The two guys don't even go on the

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<v Speaker 1>same sentence. It's just not comparable at all whatsoever. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to hear if you guys have a

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<v Speaker 1>different opinion. I do. I do a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>I think the point I think you're you're missing here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not comparing the players. It's not about Jalen Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, it's about Romo. It's about the number.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't. You can't protect all these numbers. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>There are there are five number or four numbers right

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<v Speaker 1>now in the Ring of Honor that are multiple the

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<v Speaker 1>multiple players have it. So that means a Ring of

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<v Speaker 1>Honor player left and another guy came in, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be five when DeMarcus Ware gets in because Haley's in,

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<v Speaker 1>So five numbers are already duplicated. So Romo can't. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't protect him. So you can't protect the number. He was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a great player at this time, probably better

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<v Speaker 1>than I think people gave him credit for. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, somebody's gonna wear nine again.

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<v Speaker 1>Now yeah, but who Okay, seriously, but that's I get

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<v Speaker 1>your point. You can't protect the number forever. It's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't someone what's right. But so what's worse. What's

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<v Speaker 1>worse getting getting a young quarterback that they draft in

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<v Speaker 1>the second round let's say this year, to maybe be

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<v Speaker 1>a replacement. It ain't gonna happen. But I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>a young budding quarterback at number nine, give him number nine,

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<v Speaker 1>or give a linebacker number nine, because I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 1>none of Romo's passing records are gonna be broken by

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith. That's what I'm saying. Like, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>this because they'll give twenty eight out, but they had

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<v Speaker 1>to give it to a young safety. They're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give forty eight to each to a full back. You

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<v Speaker 1>said that last night when we talked about tell me

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Showers. I won't. I'll tell you Daryl Warley. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>they sent him out there to get abused wearing twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight all last year. Just saying, Darryl Warley chasing after

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk for eighty yards against Arizona, Like, oh my god, quarterback. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>played a lot of safety. I'm just saying. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of where I come down on it is

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<v Speaker 1>there was it feels so selective to me, and like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't protect all these numbers. And again I said this,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jalen Smith is currently wearing the number of like

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<v Speaker 1>too far greater Cowboys than Tony Romo. Yeah, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>nobody gets mad about that, but they are. Chuck Howley

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<v Speaker 1>won a Super Bowl Super Bowl MVP, like a five

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<v Speaker 1>time a'lpro Randy White, I mean, come on, a manster.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and I think that that and that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>but how I see it's like, Okay, how long ago

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<v Speaker 1>was that? Though you know it's the thing, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>much recent that is the crux of it is like Romo,

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<v Speaker 1>for he just retired and he was like he was

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<v Speaker 1>the bright spot of this franchise for a solid fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially for younger fans, like if you're my age

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<v Speaker 1>and you grew up a Cowboy fan, like Tony Romo's

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<v Speaker 1>really the best thing that you've seen from this team

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<v Speaker 1>so far in your life. And and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what prompts this emotional response to it, which I get

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird. I think the three of us have three

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<v Speaker 1>different takes on this because it's there's there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>way you can slice this thing, because it's not about

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<v Speaker 1>one player versus another. Because and I said this, I

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<v Speaker 1>said this to you, M. Dave earlier. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Allen is the greatest offensive lineman, greatest guard in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the NFL. And I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>can say that about any other player that's ever played

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<v Speaker 1>for the Dallas Cowboys. Other than Digon Sanders that is

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<v Speaker 1>the best at their position, hands down. Joe Looney rock

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three for the last four or five years. McKinsey

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<v Speaker 1>Bernardo had it too. Okay, Yeah, so that's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>so selective to me, that's my thing. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>for that matter, my like, I get it if it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same position, don't give twenty two to Zeke. But

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<v Speaker 1>like if Keyan O'Neil wanted to wear twenty two, me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't bother me. He's not playing running back. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's you only have so many numbers. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith is wearing these great linebackers numbers. You know

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<v Speaker 1>they've given twenty eight. You know, Felix Jones were twenty eight. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Okay, a decade from now, if a receiver

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to wear eighty two, it's not gonna bother Okay, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Jerry Jones, and I'm not doing a Jerry impression.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying this is this is as You've just

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<v Speaker 1>been drafted by the Dallas Cowboys. Great. I can't wait, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to get there. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>wear it number twelve, uh or eighty two? The rule

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be passed first. Twelve can't we as

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<v Speaker 1>a tight end? Are we sure tight end can? Tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends were tended nineteen? I thought, Wait, all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, we're doing research anyway here he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>wear an eighty two or twelve or whatever. You're like

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Nope, tight ends can only wear eighty to

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine. And right, yeah, but if the rule passed,

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<v Speaker 1>he could And no, that doesn't bite like I'm seculating

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<v Speaker 1>a lot here because we can get into some Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Pits talk that it's so it's so selective, like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants the hot shot receiver to wear eighty eight, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody want you know, Randy Gregory got ninety four, DeMarcus

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<v Speaker 1>where got ninety four? After Haley It's it's a sweet spot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, it's like if you're if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it at all. Like here's a number, can't

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<v Speaker 1>touch it, No one can happen. Here's a number. You

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<v Speaker 1>can touch it, but you can't be anything close to

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<v Speaker 1>the position. Or here's a number. It could be the

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<v Speaker 1>same position, but you better be a badass. Yep. Eighty eight, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four and then and also in a way, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four was given to Jalen Smith for that reason. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wants to you and laugh about what were their expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was coming off an injury and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that their expectation was he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be good. That same with Bobby Carpenter. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was first round pick, he gets fifty four, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a good That always worked out. We gave it

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<v Speaker 1>to Bruce Hambrick. You know hambric were as a fifth

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<v Speaker 1>round pick. Yeah, that that that was in two thousand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't doing that. They weren't thinking there is there

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<v Speaker 1>has been a running back to where thirty three, but

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<v Speaker 1>there probably won't be another one. Yeah. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine, But I didn't I didn't mind at all

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<v Speaker 1>when Cheeto was wearing thirty three. Yeah, like he plays quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares if they gave it to a running back?

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Yeah, that's just me. Everyone's got different

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<v Speaker 1>opinions on this, and it's it's it's fun, it's healthy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fun debate. Yeah, I just I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the whole like, I love Tony Romo, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that his number is one that nobody can have.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's let's go ahead and stop the nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>and before we go to break, Okay, have we got

0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 1>other stuff to talk about? This is nonsense. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>stop the nonsense with between Romo and Jalen Smith conversation here.

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<v Speaker 1>But right before we go to break, are there any

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<v Speaker 1>expected rules to pass that could be a little controversial controversial?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is there anything else that's the big one? I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Ravens, the Baltimore Ravens proposed an overtime

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<v Speaker 1>rule that actually sounds really really fun where the team

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<v Speaker 1>that wins the coin toss gets to pick where the

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 1>ball is placed on the field. So you win the

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<v Speaker 1>coin toss, you say we're gonna put it on the

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<v Speaker 1>opposing ten yard line. But then the other team gets

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<v Speaker 1>to pick who plays offense and who plays defense. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of strategy going into that. That could be

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. Yeah, it could be really interesting, but again

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<v Speaker 1>we won't know if it passes for a while. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's where I'm at with the uniform thing, where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, can we save this conversation for when it's

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<v Speaker 1>even a reality, because it's not right now. So but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. I don't I honestly don't know when those

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<v Speaker 1>meetings are going to take place, but it should be

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<v Speaker 1>sometime in May, as long as they don't. When it

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<v Speaker 1>comes back to jerseys, and I said this as well,

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<v Speaker 1>like college football, people wear all kinds of jerseys and

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really bother me. The only thing that bothers me

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<v Speaker 1>is when you see like four number ones or number

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<v Speaker 1>twos and all that kind of stuff, and and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to they have to put a jersey on on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline, you know, because you can't wear the same

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<v Speaker 1>jersey as someone else because he's playing special teams and

0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.000
<v Speaker 1>there's another eighteen and I'm wearing you know, I hate

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. I don't think I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it'll get to that. There's not that many players, but

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven guys in uniform in the NFL on a

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<v Speaker 1>game day, there's like eighty two guys in uniform in

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<v Speaker 1>college football. So all right, yeah, anyway, all right, we're done. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're done with this segment. We're gonna go to break

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<v Speaker 1>and when we come back, we'll switch the whole conversation

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<v Speaker 1>down a little bit now that we got all the

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<v Speaker 1>In this segment, we are going to talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys free agency, we've seen what they've done so far,

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<v Speaker 1>and before we get to the draft talk and some

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys, the prospects that may be linked to

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys currently, I want to talk to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>about just some of the holes that they've filed so

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<v Speaker 1>far through free agency and if some of those needs

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<v Speaker 1>we know we've talked about safety, linebacker, are some of

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<v Speaker 1>have some of those needs changed draft? I mean not drastically,

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<v Speaker 1>but a little bit of what you kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>into the draft thinking I do think so, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's changed some and not on the front end,

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<v Speaker 1>not when you're talking about Thursday night, even maybe Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you don't signed Jordan Lewis. Um, then you

0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>go into this draft and you don't just need to

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 1>get a cornerback in the first round. You gotta get

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>multiple cornerbacks and they might anyways, but you would be

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.879
<v Speaker 1>pigeonholed to get two. You gotta get one in the

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>fourth or fifth round. You gotta get another one, you know. Um,

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I think cornerback is one that they helped themselves. Um,

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 1>they could go play a game with Diggs Brown. Why

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>are you looking like this? They could? They could, they could,

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>they could, But I mean, fun, but there, let me

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>finish before you that who farted? Look I didn't say

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>sorry Diggs Brown? Um, who am missing Lewis? Those three

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and then and then you then you're gonna draft one.

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>But if you didn't signed Jordan Lewis, I mean you

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 1>might have to draft two in the first for three

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>or four rounds. Yeah, So I think I think. I

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's good. Jordan Lewis. Signing him didn't didn't

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>help you didn't change the factor. You're probably gonna get

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>one in the first round or so, but it did

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>help from the standpoint of your numbers. And I think

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 1>there's some other positions like that. I mean, they covered

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 1>their asses, that's what they do. But I don't think

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 1>they did anything that changes what they need to accomplish

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>in the draft that Like, I don't think anything they did.

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 1>They still need a cornerback and they need to draft

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>him in the top one hundred, Like they need a

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>guy who's good enough to potentially start right away. You know,

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>they signed Tie and Secky, but does that make anybody

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.479
<v Speaker 1>feel better about the swing tackle spot? Like, not not me,

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>not significantly anyway. Um, you know, they added a bunch

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of depth on the defensive line, but those aren't guys

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that you know should you Like, if if a guy's there,

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well we have we got brenn Urban, We're good.

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>We don't need this guy, you know, Like, no, that's

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>not that's not a thing. Um. I know we've talked

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot about safety, and I know that that's not

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>necessarily a first round type of position there. But Demante

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 1>because he's guarantee. These are like minuscule compared to haha,

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Clinton Dix's and how that work out. Yeah, that's my point.

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yes, that could work out really well. And

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I actually I wrote a column about this last week,

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>which is, you know they're buying they're buying scratch off cards.

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, you go to the gas station and spend

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>two fifty on or how much does a scratch off

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 1>card cost? I don't even know, or you know, I

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>go to the I go to the gas station when

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the powerball is crazy, and I'm like, give me ten

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>dollars worth of numbers, just you know, maybe, And I

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>drive home and I'm like hell yeah, man, like this

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>parents a house? Yeah, I'm like this could be the one,

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Like who's getting Like, okay, my brother can have some,

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll get my parents a house, like you know, uh

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>quit Yeah, no, no, no, I absolutely wouldn't quit my job.

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 1>My job would be even more fun if I was

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 1>actually rich. Um. But then you go home in like

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>five seconds into the broadcast, you didn't win. And that's

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>what the Cowboys experience has been. Like they're like, hey,

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you know this guy, this guy had seven picks two

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>years ago and we're only paying him like one point

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>two million, like we could strike it rich, and they could,

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>they absolutely could, but they haven't yet. It has not

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>cashed in the way they wanted to yet and they've

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 1>been doing it for eight years, so maybe this is

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 1>the year. But seven interceptions in three years before that

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>ten and last two years. What happened last year, which

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to bash

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Demante because he or any of the other guys that

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>they've signed. You know, huh, Zeke tried to bash him.

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>He didn't, well, no, Zeke didn't try. Zeke ran him over. Um.

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>What about the linebacker position? I mean, does that change

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they had draft needs as far as having Kian O'Neill,

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 1>which would say the biggest signing that Keyan O'Neill is

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>probably my favorite signing that they've made because I know

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>what a good player he was, and he came back

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and had a nice season last year after two years

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>of injuries. But it's a five million dollar deal and

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that's probably like the guarantees aren't five million, so again

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it's one year, like you're not these are these are

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>not guys that you're looking to build around. And there

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>are guys that you're you're saying, Okay, this guy can

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>start for us if we need him to, but we're

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to improve this in the draft. That's what they do.

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>And so again they've done They've done some things that

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I like, like, they've made some additions that I do like,

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>but they haven't done anything where I'm like, oh, I

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.479
<v Speaker 1>was worried about that last month, but I'm not anymore like, yeah,

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 1>if this, if they try to go into this season, honest, like,

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>they need to draft a cornerback with one of their

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 1>first two picks, because you think about what you got

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>from Digs he was picked fifty one. You think about

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>what you got from Cheetoh he was picked sixty like,

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and so now you're thinking, if I want better than that,

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I probably need to draft a corner number ten. I'm

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.479
<v Speaker 1>picking a corner at ten, and I mean, we can

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we can move into the next talk. As it stands

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>right now, there are very few scenarios where I would

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>go away from that. I'm I'm picking a cornerback at ten.

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>And if some reason, if certain in and and I

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>think I think J. C. Horne has now jumped himself

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>into a legitimate number ten absolutely, And if he is.

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>If it's eight nine for some reason it's eight nine

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and those two are off the board and you're sitting

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>at ten, I mean that means there's an outstanding offensive

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>lineman there, you'd like to think, because the quarterbacks are

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>going right four four of them, maybe five. Yeah, I

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>think I was going to ask you guys that. I mean,

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>we saw it happened last year with Ceedee Lamp kind

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>of help he fell into the Cowboys lab. But um,

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>is there anyone, any player on the offensive side of

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the ball. There we go. I don't like to talk,

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but it could happen. Is there anyone, any name Dave

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that could pop up that you're like, Okay, if this guy,

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 1>even though it's not a position of need, necessarily go

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>for it. But he's too good to love the guy?

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>How a few don't love the guy? What are you doing?

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>His name is Kyle Pitts, And I'm sure I've been

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>as excited about a draft prospect at some point in

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>my career, but I'm struggling to think to remember it,

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>and and I get like, it's terrible. Your eyes are

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>like in your eyes flat got the longest wingspan of

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>an offensive skill player in twenty five years. He runs

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>a four four four at six five two fifty. U

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>turn on the tape. You can in the SEC, which

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>most people would agree is the deepest, most talented conference

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>in college football. He's just going up there and posterizing guys,

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>jumping over two and three dbs to pull in touchdown patches.

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>He averaged eighteen yards per catch as a tight end.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh you like j C. Hornnick? Oh no, Jason, I

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>mean him, No, that's not him. But he beat j C.

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Horn in this game. Uh. He beat Tyson Campbell and

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Eric Stokes from Georgia, who are two of the best cornerback.

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>That's jac Horn number one highlight. He beat j on

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a crossing round in this game. Um, he didn't beat

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>up on Patrick's ur tan so much, but he did

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>beat up on Alabama. The guy's just uncoverable. And I

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>get can tell you Ed K. Hill who used to

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>be who used to be running this show back in

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the back. It's not he's not running these highlights. Is

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>he's a South Carolina guy. He's just getting abused. I mean,

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>but everybody that played this guy got abused. Yeah, I'm

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>glad we don't see any LSU or Arkansas. What we

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>got here? Oh? Yeah, no, who is it? That's yeah,

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>that's saying him. He didn't play against LSU, which is

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>probably a big part of the reason why Florida lost

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that game. We know that there are certain guys that

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you like or we like or whatever, but the Cowboys

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily aren't necessarily aligned with us most of the time.

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>But is this a guy that could attract Yes, well,

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>let's go out with what's what's being reported right now?

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>It's on the I mean, and why it's being reported

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>as it is interesting too. But I think was Chris

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Mortenson from ESPN, who if you pay attention to these things,

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>he never really does. He never talks a lot about

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys other than like, you know, he talks to Jerry.

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>That's if he's reporting on the Cowboys. It's because he

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>had a conversation and it sounds like and he said

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>he told him that you know, they're enamored or he's

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>enamored by Kyle Pitts. And Jerry is a businessman here,

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>he knows he knows how to play the game. Yes,

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>he is probably enamored by and why would you not be,

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>But he also has to think get these offensive guys, quarterbacks, linemen,

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>tight ends, receivers off the board. Yeah, and there's no

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>way that if he really thinks, oh, I'm gonna go

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>get now. I think I think it's true. I think

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Jerry really does like him. But you don't just start

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>talking to people. You just tell him how much you

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>love Yeah, if you wanted to draft Kyle Pitts, you

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't say that. You wouldn't say that if that

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>was who you really wanted to wind up with, which

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the you know, and people people get so up

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.719
<v Speaker 1>in arms, which I think it's so funny. Fans are like,

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, all through the year, and I noticed that

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>with mock drafts, to everybody's like, draft the best player,

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about the need. But then when the chips

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>are down, it's like, what on earth are you talking about?

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>We need cornerbacks. And that's mock drafts cracked me up too,

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>because every draft analyst always says like, just get the

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>best player, and every mock draft, you know, the little blurb,

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well they need a cornerback, so that's who

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I drafted for him. It's like the logic doesn't line up,

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's I think the world of Blake Jarwin. I

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>thought he was going to have a breakout year last year.

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel even more strongly about that having watched Dalton

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Schultz do what he did. Dalton had a great season

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>as well, but he's in a contract year. Jarwin's contract

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>is structured so that, like, you can get away from

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>it if you need to, Like so the you know,

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>these are not building block players and this is a

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>generational prospect. I'm just gonna say it. This is what

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>if they draft any one on offense aside from the

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, I'm gonna be pissed. That's just the absolute

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>wrong way to think about it. I'm sorry. I wasn't

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>pissed about see Lamb. Last year. It was like, okay, okay,

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>but this year, No, this year, after the season we

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>had last year, No, okay. You know they needed a

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>defensive end in ninety eight and they drafted Greg Allis

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>over Randy Moss. Like these are the types of conversations.

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>That's cool, they need I know, I know you from

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a talent perspective, I know there was more to the

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Randy Moss thing. Yeah, but I'm just telling you, don't

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>come crying to me in fifteen years when Kyle Pitts

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 1>is the best player in New York Giants history. That's

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>all I'm saying. Okay, I don't think if he is

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>a generational player, like you say, and like a lot

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of people say, he's not going to tend no, And

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that's really it's kind of like the Jersey thing. It's

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>probably a moot point. I really don't think he'll be there.

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I really don't. And so but but if he is

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the guy you need to do. If you're a Cowboy fan,

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>you need to be pull and for Davante Smith, Mac

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Jones and Trey Lance, maybe Jamar Chase. You know you

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>want those guys drafted because you want those quarterbacks, and

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>then those guys that's gonna give the Cowboys. Now, this

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>is what I think is interesting. If if Horn and

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Certain are gone, what happens. I'm almost more intrigued about

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 1>what happens if Horn and Certain are both there, because

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't mean, you know which one do

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>you take? Take? I'm saying, if enough players the Cowboys

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>love are sitting at ten, you know Jerry will be

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. Yeah, you know they would love to

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>trade down. You just you might not have seen that happen.

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And as if they trade down, I heard this the

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>other day and I'm just throwing it out there. If

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys trade down, do not be surprised if they

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>picked twice in the first round because down, and then

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>they got up with what they got. That would be fun.

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I would love that, which I was gonna say, you

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>might want Trey Lance to fall to you because that's

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>what facilitates a trade, that's what gets it going. You're

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>right about that. New England might want a quarterback at fifteen.

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you. I don't know if it

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>would be smart to trade with a division rival, But

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe Washington wants to come up Chicago and Washington a quarterback.

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it depends on the price. I would jack

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the price up. Oh yeah, you have to. I don't

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>even know if I would do it. Then. I just like,

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>if they want like fields on the off chance that

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>he becomes a star, do you really want to be

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the reason why your division rival found their quarterback. I

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's a good idea. Don't think so either.

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>But Chicago's right behind him at twenty. Maybe Chicago, their

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>GM's about to get fired. Maybe he does something crazy

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>to get a quarterback. So if Andy Dalton they only

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>need trade up, there's a million ways this thing could go.

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 1>And it's fascinating to think about. And if you try

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to keep up with all the mock drafts, they changed

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>by the day, you know, like they you know, you

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>you probably got a list of seven or eight eight

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>guys that have kind of been linked to the Cowboys.

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>And I know, I don't even know if Pitts was

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>on that list, but I mean Jerry talked about it,

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>but I saw one the other day, Daniel Jeremiah. He's

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>he's pretty plugged in Quity Pay quit Pay Like, yeah,

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Michigan pass rusher, very very athletic, like bendy fast, explosive

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>like And we talked about this on the Draft show yesterday.

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, spare me the taco stuff because you know,

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>they both played at Michigan. But like Quitty Pay is

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>an absurdly more athletic player, but his college production maybe

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.399
<v Speaker 1>scares you. Like I think he had four sacks last year,

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Like he didn't, you know, he wasn't this monstrous guy.

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>You would be banking on his athleticism, You would be

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>banking on him developing as he went along. Ten seems

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 1>it's not the number for that. But if they trade back, right,

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>that's I just you know, I look at it and

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:55.439
<v Speaker 1>I say, if Patrick's r tans there, I think he's

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>your pick. Honestly, I think that's their dream scenario. J C. Horn.

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>If if that's possible, then you're probably talking about an

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle or a trade. And if you can't do that,

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted Michael Parsons either.

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to I love that actually, by the way,

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 1>I know you love partners, I know, and I don't

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 1>know where he fits on the board and where they'll

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>he would have to fall and get him or whatever.

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>But I think he's everything you want Jalen Smith to be.

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>That's actually I did an interview that's that's coming out

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>today with Bobby Carpenter, which against spare me the snark,

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, the NFL player, a great college guy who

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>is plugged into the big ten. He said, he was like,

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>if you want a comparison for Michael Parsons, it's pre

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>injury Jalen Smith, like the guy that people were hoping

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>he would be. Really that's interesting. So, um, you know,

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>going back to J. C. Horne, we showed some highlights

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>of him and you said he went up against Kyle

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Pitts and as oppressive as it was for Pitts to

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>beat the cornerback and all that, which, I think he's

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>a bulky wide receiver. Um, but I love the See

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>that's what I love about jac Horne is I got him.

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I got pits. Now, maybe he didn't get him all

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the time, maybe he got beat I bet he won

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>some too, But that's what I love about him, not

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 1>knocking Curtan. But obviously there's five star guys all over

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the line for for Alabama, there's not that many for

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. As we saw his pits just to torm

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>up the whole team. But he is He's more of

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>a dog to me, and he is a guy we

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>got some Jac Horne. Okay, I mean I think he

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>takes the best guy every time. He doesn't have a

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of other guys, you know, like on defense around him.

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 1>He's tough. Is you know, if you love the fact

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>that Certan's dad played fifteen years in the league, jac

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Horne's dad, Joe Horn, played ten to twelve years, pretty good.

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Saint Bride receiver. Um so I just I just love

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 1>I really love his game, and I think I might

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>pick him over him. Kyle Pitts said Horne was the

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>guy like he hated going up against him the most.

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>That was his toughest assignment this year. And I love

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Horn because he strikes me. I feel like Horn would

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>come in here as a rookie and at mini camp, yes,

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>he would bat down a pass from Dak Prescott and

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>tell Dak that he's trash, like he's that type of guy.

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like he's got some like Richard shirt. I mean, no,

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>don't maybe not not be so good at training camp

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>because we get the sieve of what happened. You are like,

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>you're so like you're so super stick. You're like, well, wait,

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't want him to be good. That means he's

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna let me down. Just suck through training camp and

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 1>be great during the season. You're just you're so afraid

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to be hurt. And I love it. But we see

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.399
<v Speaker 1>it all the freaking time. It's like this, why you're

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.800
<v Speaker 1>shine during training camp and then they sucked during the season.

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>They guys who shine during training camp shine during the season.

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Two Like Okay, You're like Renky Robinson and not show

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>up at all at training camp and then just don't play,

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>just keep don Mike McCarthy mentality of keeping things secret

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and then show up. I've never seen I know. I mean,

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks are important. I watched that Auburn Carolina game, and

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I like, I've never seen a cornerback have such a

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous impact on the outcome of a game, Like he

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 1>just terrorized bo Nix all afternoon in this game, which

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Bonnix isn't a very good quarterback. So no, there's that

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to I'd like to mix it up a

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I mean, I know that's the highlight package,

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you know. Sorry, Chris, I'm just saying I like to

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 1>mix it up. Well, here's here's another thing about highlights too.

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>And and I've learned this over the you know you

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>go YouTube highlights or somebody huddle, you know in high school.

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, give me the one where he's just getting beat,

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, like give me where he gets paying take

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to run over or something like. Watching tape is so much,

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>especially if you're ever fortunate enough to watch like a

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>cut up. Cutups are hilarious because like they'll put they'll

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 1>group all of the good plays and you're watching and

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 1>you're like, this guy's going to the Hall of Fame.

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's go. And then you get to the bad plays

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, it's organized in a certain way.

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I get it now, so that's always fun. Well, let's

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and take ours all the Auburn game. This

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 1>is unbelievable, Like, you're right, he played the gamesolutely, he

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>killed him dominated. I keep waiting for another highlight, but

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I keep seeing the same game but different highlight, Like, yeah,

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>it was he SEC player of the week. So I

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know, fall in love with the player. So you

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>don't get your heart broken when something happens in the

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>draft and he does not end up here. Oh, I've

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>learned a long time ago. You can't. You can't worry

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>about the draft. They're gonna you know, they're gonna pick it.

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 1>That's why I don't really, I'm not into what Dave

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>does and Broadest did and Kyle and those guys because

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I just can't. I just can't invest. I just can't

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>invest in four hundred guys, but no one that only

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty are going to be here. Oh, and I get

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>it that in three or four years they'll be free

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 1>agency and you learn them and all that. But I

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>just not, Oh see, I I love it. Maybe I'm

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>a hipster, but like you know, I knew. I knew

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Kareem Hunt was going to be a beast for the

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs before he ever played, and he like he had

0:42:58.000 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like one hundred and fifty yards in his first game. Like,

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>it just helps you know the league so much better.

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, yeah, I remember Kenny Galladay. I like, yeah,

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>he was great coming out of school. He's just so

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I it just helps know the league so much more.

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Found another game one oh lsu oh here comes to

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>score in a second. Yeah, anyway, I would be I

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>would be tempted to draft j C. Horn over Patrick's Urtan.

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>And I like Patrick's Urtan, but he is a hell

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of a player. He's physical. That's what I like about him.

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I know certain is Certain would would

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>be great. I just think you have to do you

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>have to take a cornerback at ten? You just you

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>have to. No, you should never know. I disagree with

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that completely. That goes again. That's my point is, like

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I just I think so much of Kyle Pitts that

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>if for some reason he was there, and then that's

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>when that's why you do your homework, and that's why

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you say, Okay, we like Eric Stokes, we like Elijah

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Molden out of Washington. Going back to your point, you

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>know they have enough capital that they could maybe trade

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>up for a guy if he fell a little bit,

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Greg Newsom out of Northwestern. You should never do anything. Well,

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's hard to have that kind of mentality

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.879
<v Speaker 1>this year after the kind of season they had last year.

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:15.479
<v Speaker 1>And I get it. It's why you gotta peel back

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and remove your emotion from it. Okay, Well if you

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>told me, oh, we didn't spending all our money on

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback, and we had some a bunch of money

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to spend on the other free agent veteran guys that

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>can actually come in here and be very impactful, but

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that didn't really happen. So you're great, Okay, sorry, just

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>love it. You made it. But you're lamed running to

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the podium to draft Kyle Pitts if I can, and

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll worry about everything else later. Okay. Well, let's take

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0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about some of them possibilities of trading

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 1>down that you guys talked about and see if that

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.919
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<v Speaker 1>then maybe I added a little too much too, so

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you for that. But okay, last segment,

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys kind of hinted at the whole possibility

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 1>of training down. Nick, you mentioned trading down and then

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>training training back up. But if the cow was where

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to trade down, how does how would that look like?

0:47:56.640 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as far as I know, it's hard to

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>predict what who's going to be there and all that,

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>But just looking at it right now, would you guys

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>like that that if the Cowboys were to trade back

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 1>in the right circumstance for the right price, I would

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>love it, like, depending on what is available to them. Yeah,

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 1>And it is really hard to predict because everybody loves

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:24.439
<v Speaker 1>to say that and we always say like, you gotta

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 1>have a trade partner, you got to have a player

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 1>worth trading up. For that's almost always a quarterback, not always,

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>but almost always, so Trey Lance mac Young. If one

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 1>of them were to follow you at ten, or if

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:42.399
<v Speaker 1>a Jamar Chase or a Kyle Pitts, just this guy

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that somebody is completely obsessed with, you could maybe make

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that work. But you need that because we've seen what

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a trade looks like when you don't really have a partner,

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's the Travis Frederick trade, which it worked out

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>because Travis was great, but they still kind of got

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:01.319
<v Speaker 1>fleeced on the deal, like Floyd was there for him.

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it was seventeen they were, or eighteen eighteen,

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you're picking eighteen, and they bailed because they didn't want

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>to draft Sharif Floyd, which turned out to be a

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 1>good call, but they only got a third round pick

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.959
<v Speaker 1>for moving thirteen spots in the first round of the draft.

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Like that's just not that's not good. And it's probably

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>not a coincidence that they shook up the way that

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>they do the draft after that happened. Yeah, so you

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that. You know, I'm not bailing

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:28.720
<v Speaker 1>out of ten just because I'm terrified of picking somebody.

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 1>But if somebody's gonna really sweeten the pot. I talked

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>about this in the mailbag earlier this week, Like, if

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Chicago wanted to offer me their next year's one to

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>jump ten spots, I would do that all day and

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>then into twenty. You'd go down to twenty in this

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 1>year's draft. Yeah, and then you get and I want

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 1>next year's one. Hopefully I could maybe even get a

0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Day two pick out of it as well, like next

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 1>year's one and this year's three to fall back ten

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>spots and let them get their quarterback. I would do

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:57.760
<v Speaker 1>that in a heartbeat, especially if it's for a quarterback.

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, and that's you need something but that you

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 1>were capable of driving price. I say that too, or

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>having next year's number one, because if most teams are

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>not going to sit on their quarterback, they're gonna play him. Yeah,

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and so you want to trade with the team if

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 1>you have their next year's number one, you want them

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>to play a rookie quarterback and that he struggles and

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 1>get a better pick out of it. So I would

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 1>do that, you know, I'm like I said, I'm not

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:23.360
<v Speaker 1>doing it for the sake of it, but in the

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 1>right circumstance, you know, like I said, New England at

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>fifteen makes sense. I don't know if you would want

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to trade with Washington Chicago. Those are probably in that

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:34.839
<v Speaker 1>scenario about trading next year for next year's one. You're

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 1>not trading back into the first round. Probably not. The

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 1>scenario that trades into the first round is like ten

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to like seventeen or something like that, and then you

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.839
<v Speaker 1>get their number two maybe something else out of it

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 1>ten to seventeen, you probably get a two and maybe

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:53.399
<v Speaker 1>a four, and you package that pick some of that

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>with picky and yeah, I mean we see that happen

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Somewhere between twenty seven and pick thirty two,

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:04.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody in the second round. He loves to jump up

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and get whoever it is that they covet. Again, a

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of times it's a quarterback, like if a Lamar

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Jackson falls to the end of the first round or

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:14.240
<v Speaker 1>something like that. And I know a lot of fans

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 1>know this, but it's worth pointing out just the difference

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>in getting a first round pick with that fifth year,

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you have the ability to keep them for five seasons

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 1>instead of just four. You know, the difference between the

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty second pick and the thirty third pick is tremendous,

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's you know, it gets a little convoluted, but

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:33.319
<v Speaker 1>that you know, So the Cowboys have four picks in

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the top one hundred right now, and I tend you know,

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 1>top one hundred draft picks maybe not necessarily starters, but

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're drafting in the top one hundred, you should

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 1>be good enough to contribute as a rookie significantly. So

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>would they have four right now? Would you rather have

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 1>four players in the top one hundred, four guys who

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>can come in and contribute or use some of that

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 1>capital to draft two guys in the first round. So

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>now instead of four top one hundred, maybe you have

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 1>two top thirty and those guys should be stars. And

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that's always an interesting debate. That is

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a different scenario, which isn't necessarily trading picks for picks.

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 1>But it's the whole Michael Gallup conversation which people have

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 1>been having during this offseason, you know, kind of hinting,

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>is he a good guy that would be good for

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a trade, and we know his contract is about to end,

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>He's probably gonna require and ask for more money than

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 1>what the Cowboys could possibly paid him. And looking at

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you still have Amari Cooper and um

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Cidey Lamb, Cilley Lamb, sorry for Nancy Brain Cidey Lamb.

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Where do you guys currently stand with that whole conversation?

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Is it still really a conversation or is that something

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that kind of like that's not really going to happens.

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 1>That's well, there's a whole there's a segment. You know,

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:57.399
<v Speaker 1>there are is a segment of people that are so

0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with best player available that they'll say, you know,

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle or Davante Smith has a chance

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to be the best player available when you pick. Yeah,

0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:10.279
<v Speaker 1>those I mean, those guys are studs. And if you

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.320
<v Speaker 1>were really about that business, you could draft one of

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 1>those guys and either just let it roll or try

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to do something with Michael Gallop after the fall. I wouldn't.

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do anything with Gallop unless that happened, Like, yeah,

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>if you wind up with Kyle Pitts or a wide receiver,

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe you could make that happen. I always say it

0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>just like people are always trying to solve problems before

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.320
<v Speaker 1>they arise. And I know we've talked about this before,

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 1>but Amari Cooper's deal is structured to where they can

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.360
<v Speaker 1>get out of it this time next year without really

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 1>any consequences. Like the vast majority of his guarantees are

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 1>front loaded and they'll be done, so you could trade

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Amar next year for cheap. You could cut him if

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to. I don't know why you would. He's great.

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:53.839
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be great, but you could so. I mean,

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you could find a way to pay Michael if you

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>would prefer to keep him around, or you know, if

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:01.720
<v Speaker 1>he leaves. Based on what he's done, I would think

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:03.919
<v Speaker 1>any deal that he would sign a free agency would

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 1>net you a fourth or maybe even a third round pick, depending,

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 1>so you could go that way. So I don't think

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:11.959
<v Speaker 1>it's necessary. Would you get for him if you traded

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.200
<v Speaker 1>him right now? That's a great Q draft day, on

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:18.360
<v Speaker 1>draft day before you draft a receiver or after, because

0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, if you draft Jalen Waddle and

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>then you try to move Michael Gallop, I think people

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:24.880
<v Speaker 1>would be like, well, I'm not going to pay a

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:28.320
<v Speaker 1>premium for that. Like you, like, you got more receivers

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 1>than you know what to do with. I think there

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>have to be some kind of agreement going on here

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:34.400
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. I would like to think you

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>could get it. I want to do that. I like, statistically,

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe like Gallup is one of, if not the

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 1>best receiver from a production standpoint, from his draft class,

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>one of Yeah, and so I'd keep in him. I'd

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 1>like to think you could get a third for him.

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>But it's hard to predict that type of stuff. I mean,

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would rather keep him unless you wind

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 1>up with one of these guys on your team and

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 1>then or or you know, it's Will. It's Will's job

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:04.919
<v Speaker 1>to you know, have his eye on you know, he's

0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the executive vice president of player Personnel. A big part

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>of his job is knowing other teams rosters. And so

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe you could trade Michael for a similar defensive tackle,

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I know, like Dalvin Tomlinson just signed a new contract.

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But a guy like that, like a talented defensive tackle

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:24.319
<v Speaker 1>who needs a new contract, who's a obvious upgrade over

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 1>what you have here. Look at guys in contract years, Yeah,

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 1>both on other teams and on this team. Gallops a

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 1>contract year, Connor Williams is in a contract here, Um,

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Dalton Schultz. Those are the those are the guys that

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:41.879
<v Speaker 1>are easiest to trade because they don't have a lot

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of money. You know that with the cap hit wouldn't

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:46.240
<v Speaker 1>be that much at all for the for the team

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that would taking him or or letting them go. So

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and we I mean, it's easy for me to say, oh,

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that stuff never happens, but like you know, they did

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 1>trade Ryan Switzer for Jihad Ward on Draft Day a

0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 1>few years ago. They got Tavon and a draft trade,

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>so it does happen. Does happen? But I lean towards

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:06.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking it's more unlikely than that. Is it unlikely for

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:09.799
<v Speaker 1>any other players like you mentioned Connor Williams. I mean

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:13.880
<v Speaker 1>there's also I mean Dalton Schultz. But but Dalton Schultz

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 1>but be an interesting piece of trade bait for you know,

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>any of those guys could be interesting. But is it

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:22.959
<v Speaker 1>something realistic for that the cowboy that you could see

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the cow was actually doing with any of these guys realistic? Yes? Likely, No,

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Like that's kind of my answer. Across the board, it happens,

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it all those would be because those players, I mean,

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're saying that Gallup would probably give you a third,

0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:42.880
<v Speaker 1>then you if you were to trade Dalton Schultz on

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Draft Day or Connor Williams. I mean we're talking about

0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:50.240
<v Speaker 1>day three pick here, right, probably fifth or it maybe

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:53.240
<v Speaker 1>a player of a compar break and so at that point,

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you only do those things. If something happened in the

0:56:56.680 --> 0:57:00.160
<v Speaker 1>draft that right change, like get a guard in the

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:03.319
<v Speaker 1>second round. I'm only trying to move Gallop. Yeah, I'm

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:06.520
<v Speaker 1>only trying to move Gallop. If I draft Pits or Waddle,

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I would only be interested in moving a guy like

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams. If I wound up with Rashaan Slater. It's like,

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.480
<v Speaker 1>these aren't things that I'm seeking to do. These are

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 1>things that because I might, you know, my draft class

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 1>might change how I feel great as the future is

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 1>this team. This team showed you in free agency that

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of one year deals. I mean they're trying

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 1>to They're trying to win now as well. I mean,

0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, hoping that these guys sticking to baby keep

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 1>them down the road, but I mean that they are

0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to win right now and for this year as well. Yeah,

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and that going back to the first segment, I you know,

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>they covered themselves as well as they are willing to do.

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 1>But it just it doesn't and shouldn't change their philosophy

0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in the draft for basically any position. And I know

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 1>we talk about a lot about all the needs that

0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>they currently have on defense, and mostly that would be

0:57:57.120 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 1>hopefully addressed through the draft. But when from the first round,

0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 1>second round, those later draft picks are there still like

0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:11.320
<v Speaker 1>good talent there defense, what would be like the like

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the best kind of position that the Cowboys could be

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 1>looking at in later rounds. Let me just throw this

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 1>part in. And I don't know if I've said this before,

0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not interested in doing a lot of trade ups

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:27.640
<v Speaker 1>unless you've already traded down a lot. I think this

0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 1>team has ten draft picks, and I think they need

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>ten players. At least. They need to throw ten things

0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 1>up on the wall and hope six or seven of

0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:37.320
<v Speaker 1>them stick. You need that sixth round pick. He might

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<v Speaker 1>be Rico Gathers that might not play for you. He

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<v Speaker 1>might be Anthony Brown who you resigned, and as as

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<v Speaker 1>a quality player, you need those guys. This team needs

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<v Speaker 1>so much help and so much depth that I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to I'm using those so to answer your question

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<v Speaker 1>about position, you know, there's hall of famers at every position.

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<v Speaker 1>In the sixth and seventh round, at some point in there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at somebody, do you hit on one who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's and I think it just depends.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can talk trash about him all you want,

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<v Speaker 1>but they trade it up for Xavier Woods because they

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<v Speaker 1>felt strongly about him. And you know, for a guy

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<v Speaker 1>he was drafted mid late sixth round and they got

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<v Speaker 1>four years of starts out of him, Like that's a wine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good pick. Even though last season was bad

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<v Speaker 1>for him, and I don't think very many people were

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<v Speaker 1>sad to see him go. That's a good draft pick.

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<v Speaker 1>They traded up for Tyler Bottish last year as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So it just depends who's sitting there. I always tell

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<v Speaker 1>people this is just my opinion. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the top one hundred is where I stop really thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that this guy is going to contribute. And again, he

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<v Speaker 1>could grow into a Hall of Famer. He could be

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<v Speaker 1>an Anthony Brown who or or an Xavier Woods. But

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley and I is the perfect example. He falls to

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth. Everybody's Senior Bowl MVP, this great player and

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<v Speaker 1>he still could be. But everybody like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>we got Bradley and I and he played six defensive snaps.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something. Sure you can say something. Okay, for the

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<v Speaker 1>last year and a half, every time you say top

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred, I'm not trying to be rude about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I always think of Jazz Green. I mean it's just

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<v Speaker 1>one example, but it's like, every time you say one hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of Jazz Green because he stuck in there

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<v Speaker 1>at like ninety eight or whatever. I know, Michael Gallup

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<v Speaker 1>was pick eighty one, I get it, and Dak was whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Dak was pick one thirty five. You work out with everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>you just throw it out every number. Like I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty awesome. H I always say should if you draft,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do your job the right way and draft

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<v Speaker 1>the right player, a top one hundred pick should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to contribute. It's not an exact time you say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get that out of my head. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>just think maybe I'm always like being like contrary, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that's fair, but I just people, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the draft changes on Day three. That's when you're

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<v Speaker 1>basically just cash in lottery tickets and hoping for the

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<v Speaker 1>best bodies, yeah, and adding guys that can compete, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>grab a roster spot, and you hope for the best.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why, literally, like I'm sitting here thinking, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in the first in the first three rounds, they need

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<v Speaker 1>to find a cornerback, they need to find uh some

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line depth, they need probably need a linebacker who

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<v Speaker 1>could potentially start right away. But then by day three,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, shoot, draft a quarterback. If the right guys there,

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<v Speaker 1>if a running back that just absolutely shouldn't still be

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<v Speaker 1>there in the fifth round is there, draft them, draft

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive I don't care like and they have six

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<v Speaker 1>picks on day three, do whatever the hell you want

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<v Speaker 1>with them, honestly, because you're just hoping for the best

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. Anyway, all right, well they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to do whatever they want. They are they always do.

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<v Speaker 1>They always do, not just on day three. They are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do whatever they're doing. Who they is true? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's it for today. We ran out of time

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<v Speaker 1>and Derek never showed up. But that's okay. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job. I think the YouTube had a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good conversation here. Today. We got we went into

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<v Speaker 1>the weeds with the Jerseys, but we pulled it back.

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<v Speaker 1>We got back on the road. No, it was great

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<v Speaker 1>last night. It was a seriously Nick called me to

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<v Speaker 1>like breathe. It was like one of it was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be like a ninety second work conversation, and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>wound up ranting to each other about jersey numbers for

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<v Speaker 1>like a half hour. It's funny because you got you

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<v Speaker 1>guys say it's kind of stupid. It's not even done yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but yet you're still nothing. Love it. I mean, tell

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<v Speaker 1>them that story about LSU, that the patch, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>The most clicked on story that I ever wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>college when I was a student journalist was just some

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<v Speaker 1>bs that I threw together, like LSU decided that they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to stitch the letters LSU onto the collar

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<v Speaker 1>of the jersey, like the most stupid, minuscule change. It

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<v Speaker 1>blew up. It got like so many clicks. People were

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<v Speaker 1>arguing in the comments about it for like weeks. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other one other most clicked on story I

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<v Speaker 1>ever wrote was just a throwaway blog post that Terrell

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<v Speaker 1>Pryor was going to visit. He was going to go

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<v Speaker 1>on a visit to LSU. He was like the number

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<v Speaker 1>one prospect in the country at the time, and just

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<v Speaker 1>the thought that he would even visit campus, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you know the story that I've spent like

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<v Speaker 1>four months reporting on, Oh, nobody right next, next week

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, And it's not I'm not saying this has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just throwing out a free agent. We'd have two

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<v Speaker 1>headlines in a row. Cowboys signed veteran linebacker kJ Wright.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys change pants to lighter shade of green. Oh. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like telling you that would be the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>which I can't talk trash because I've been I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care, and I've had like five different arguments

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<v Speaker 1>about the jersey numbers in the last twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>LSU ever changed their goal post back to a regular

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<v Speaker 1>goal post and knockout, he wouldn't change anything about the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be so mad, all right, guys, Well, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining us today. For Nickiman, David Hellman,

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