Speaker 1: Hello, what's up everybody, and welcome to another episode of
Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour. And you guys, you are in for
Speaker 1: a treat today because not only are you just listening
Speaker 1: to another episode, no no, no, no no, this is
Speaker 1: the first ever Bachelor Happy Hour friends Giving. Now you
Speaker 1: hear some voices in the background, but you don't know
Speaker 1: who that is yet. So let me just start off
Speaker 1: by saying, I couldn't do friends Giving by myself because
Speaker 1: if this was Thanksgiving, I wouldn't be doing it by myself.
Speaker 1: I would have my wonderful husband with me. So he
Speaker 1: is in the studio today joining me. He came all
Speaker 1: the way to La to host friends Giving with me.
Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Hi, babe, I am so excited that
Speaker 1: you're here with me, first time in person on the
Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour podcast. And we aren't alone. We have
Speaker 1: some of our dearest friends from Bachelor Nation joining us
Speaker 1: in the studio today. So everybody welcome, Eric, Katie, Tasia, Joe,
Speaker 1: and Kendall. I'm so happy that you guys are here.
Speaker 1: Thankful in the spirit of friends Giving, I'm thankful that
Speaker 1: you guys are here. We're gonna have a lot of
Speaker 1: fun today. We're going to keep it real honest, tell
Speaker 1: us say things we're not supposed to say, which is
Speaker 1: what I love to do. But most of all, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have fun. So let's just get right into it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we all know each other through this Bachelor Nation world,
Speaker 1: but we were all on different seasons. I mean, Brian, Eric,
Speaker 1: we were on the same season together. You guys, Joe
Speaker 1: and Kendall were on Paradise together. You guys were on
Speaker 1: Colton season Katie and Tasia together. But so Brian are
Speaker 1: the first removed from the show. I guess I want
Speaker 1: to feel like, what would you say are some of
Speaker 1: the biggest changes from the show between our time to you?
Speaker 1: You guys, because you're the most recent on the show,
Speaker 1: did you watch the show before? I'm Ben was my
Speaker 1: first season. I watched okay, and then I watched Joe
Speaker 1: Joe's and then I kind of like, oh, you fell
Speaker 1: off to No. No, I watched your season, but I
Speaker 1: just didn't watch it all the way through. I think
Speaker 1: it was more of like the friends that I was
Speaker 1: hanging out with at the time, my girlfriends in high school, especially,
Speaker 1: they had Bachelor Mondays, so they had like a big
Speaker 1: group of girlfriends, and then kind of like when people
Speaker 1: were going to college and moving around all that stuff,
Speaker 1: everything kind of like changed. But yeah, everything was super
Speaker 1: new for me. But the most the thing that I
Speaker 1: learned about most, I would feel was finding myself. I
Speaker 1: think because, like I shared on the show, I went
Speaker 1: through a divorce, so I was just really finding who
Speaker 1: I was and just doing things for me for like
Speaker 1: the first time in my twenties. So it was really
Speaker 1: transformative in that aspect. Yeah, the show is such a
Speaker 1: crazy experience, you know, me personally, I'm glad it's over.
Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about that? Like, are you
Speaker 1: glad that the show is over and done with and
Speaker 1: you can kind of move on? Definitely? I think so
Speaker 1: because when you're on the show, when you're on the show,
Speaker 1: you're looking for love and you're trying to find more
Speaker 1: about yourself and who you are as a partner. And afterwards,
Speaker 1: I feel like I learned so much more about being
Speaker 1: in a relationship, not only with someone else, but also
Speaker 1: being like my individual self in a relationship. I learned
Speaker 1: a lot about um. So I feel like I was
Speaker 1: excited to learn from the show and then go into
Speaker 1: like the real world with that knowledge. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like you Candel and show are together. Yes, Brian
Speaker 1: and I are. Mary Katie, you're engaged, okay? Eric? Are
Speaker 1: you currently single? I'm single, so I've been dating all year.
Speaker 1: Would you go back on the show? No, you're done.
Speaker 1: So we're all done. I mean unless I get to pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what if they made you the lead? Would you do it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I will do it? Okay, sure, just because I have options. No,
Speaker 1: that's right out there. I just think it's better that way.
Speaker 1: When you go through Paradise and go through the first season.
Speaker 1: It's a lot twenty Rachelor, I mean, campaign is star.
Speaker 1: This is the first year. Honestly, I really really was like, man,
Speaker 1: I really really want to do this early. I be
Speaker 1: in a relationship and figure it out, but failed whole year.
Speaker 1: Really is it really hard to date in LA because
Speaker 1: you don't know women's true intentions? What do they want
Speaker 1: from you? Already dating me because of your status or
Speaker 1: your saying, um, I asked for real questions? So what
Speaker 1: is it about me? You did fail? Though? No, not fail.
Speaker 1: I'm learning. Yeah, but you know what I've learned. It's
Speaker 1: not my time, it's not your time. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: like cannot what. I was like, you know what, let
Speaker 1: it happen. It's hard to date in La. I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different people, a lot of different temptations,
Speaker 1: a lot of shiny things, and being single in LA.
Speaker 1: When I was living here as a single woman, it
Speaker 1: was very difficult to stay focused on so many distractions.
Speaker 1: Especially with the apps nowadays, it's like, oh gosh, I
Speaker 1: feel like people treated as a game yeah laughter, are
Speaker 1: always trying to upgrade quote unquote so well. You also
Speaker 1: don't feel the sense of like, oh, I have to
Speaker 1: really work at this relationship. There's always the thought of, oh,
Speaker 1: if this doesn't work out, I can just go back
Speaker 1: on the app. Like I know so many people who
Speaker 1: download the app to lead it, download it, deleat it,
Speaker 1: and it's just you know, it's like a a savior
Speaker 1: if you feel like a relationship isn't work safety net exactly.
Speaker 1: You feel like you feel like you don't have to
Speaker 1: put as much energy into a relationship because there's always
Speaker 1: the next person. Yeah, is that why you went on
Speaker 1: the show, Just because like it's more controlled, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess, and maybe people you would hope people are
Speaker 1: all coming in with the right intentions, and I honestly
Speaker 1: didn't go on the show expecting to ever find anybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was definitely open to it. I think
Speaker 1: the one thing you have to have is openness to
Speaker 1: find somebody. But I went on it because I thought
Speaker 1: it would be a really transformative, amazing experience, and it
Speaker 1: was and I did happen to find somebody, but neither
Speaker 1: of us expected to find each other, which I think
Speaker 1: was the best part, about one hundred percent the best way.
Speaker 1: And Joe, I know why you came on the show.
Speaker 1: If y'all didn't know already, Joe's approached in a grocery
Speaker 1: store and literally said, sure, I'll be the bachelor, and
Speaker 1: she's like, wait a minute, there's steps to this. You
Speaker 1: don't just get to immediately me the bachelor. No, she
Speaker 1: didn't even tell me that. I actually called a friend
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, that's not how it works. You
Speaker 1: need to go on the first one. So we all
Speaker 1: did say yes, and we did it. Tasia and Katie,
Speaker 1: why did you originally decide to go on the show.
Speaker 1: So my girlfriends actually nominated me to go on the show,
Speaker 1: and at that time I really just had nothing tying
Speaker 1: me down. It was the thing that I was just
Speaker 1: trying to find myself, and I felt like I was
Speaker 1: open to it, but I just didn't know what I
Speaker 1: wanted yet. So I feel like this is just a
Speaker 1: way for me to grow up. I feel like the
Speaker 1: show helped you find yourself. It does. And before I
Speaker 1: went on Colton season, I was reached out on Instagram
Speaker 1: by a casting really on July fourth, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder if she's drinking at a party, maybe she's confused.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't sure, no idea. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening, but then walked into casting. It
Speaker 1: just kind of flowed from there. But my friends definitely
Speaker 1: pushed me to do it. I was really nervous, as
Speaker 1: you should be. You're going on TV today, Like it's yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just feeling almost like, oh, I'm gonna feel
Speaker 1: violated or expose myself too much, but you know what,
Speaker 1: then we do it. Who did anybody do anything to
Speaker 1: prepare to go on the show. So, and I'll preface
Speaker 1: this by saying, for me, I had never seen an
Speaker 1: episode before I went on it. Crazy enough, I had
Speaker 1: been to watch parties, but I just went to socialize
Speaker 1: and drink. I never paid attention to who was actually
Speaker 1: on the screen. So before as I was packing, like
Speaker 1: I'm literally packing to go to La, I watched Bin's
Speaker 1: season and I got through like a couple of episodes,
Speaker 1: and I remember I called the girls who signed me up,
Speaker 1: and I was like, absolutely not. I had a house
Speaker 1: with these type of women. This is not for me.
Speaker 1: I hate this. But I'd already signed the contract and
Speaker 1: so I was like, all right, at this point, I
Speaker 1: just have to go. I was pleasantly surprised. I love
Speaker 1: the people that I was on the season with, um,
Speaker 1: but I'm interested in how you guys prepared. Did you
Speaker 1: watch someone's season? Did you maybe work out? You know,
Speaker 1: I saw it, I met you. Can we talk about that? Yes?
Speaker 1: So I signed up. I probably was the end of January.
Speaker 1: It was like, you're on the show. I don't know
Speaker 1: right before you got casted as the league. I didn't
Speaker 1: know she was going to be the bacherette, but I'm
Speaker 1: in La. She was in La at the time. I'm
Speaker 1: getting out of my car and I'm walking into the
Speaker 1: gym and I look over and it's a girl like
Speaker 1: a red band down on working out. I'm a hold up,
Speaker 1: this can't be So I called my boy. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe this. I think she's at my gym.
Speaker 1: He's like no, he's like, you have to say something.
Speaker 1: I was like, this can't be real. It was like
Speaker 1: the week of my birthday as well. It was crazy
Speaker 1: right before I saw it the week later. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so I go out, I go in, I come back.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's her. What's going on? What is
Speaker 1: the universe trying to tell me? So she came in.
Speaker 1: I said, uh, I was speaking to her as I knew.
Speaker 1: I was like, right, I see you working hard. She's like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying I give a file. I was like, I
Speaker 1: see you seen. She's like, I'm scared. I was like
Speaker 1: and looked at But I've never told anybody because I
Speaker 1: was scared, you know, like when you're when you're new.
Speaker 1: I had already gone through the Bachelor, right, but as
Speaker 1: the Bachelor rette, it's like, do I tell a producer
Speaker 1: that this guy I met this guy? I didn't want
Speaker 1: you to get kicked off the season. So I just
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know. So I kept it as
Speaker 1: a secret. So then when you eventually told a producer
Speaker 1: they said, why didn't you say that you met Eric before?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was just trying to like
Speaker 1: not mess anything up or yeah, no, that was crazy. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were at the gym working out before and then
Speaker 1: I saw you on A yea yea yeah. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this? Yeah, because at the time, you didn't
Speaker 1: know you were going to come on the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my season was the first season where they started
Speaker 1: bringing people out at Afar, So you got to meet
Speaker 1: some of your guys before you actually met them coming
Speaker 1: out of the them that night. And this is crazy,
Speaker 1: and I truly was surprised. A lot of people were like,
Speaker 1: did you know and I said no. They said we
Speaker 1: have to take your phone away early. I was livid,
Speaker 1: and they said, we just don't want you to know
Speaker 1: what's about to happen. Something's going to happen, and so
Speaker 1: that's what ended up happening, and I got to meeting.
Speaker 1: It's a miracle season. What about you guys, did you
Speaker 1: do anything to prepare for the show? Joe and Kendall
Speaker 1: A haircut, tell story, tell a story? All right, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's say well, funny enough. I actually watched the first
Speaker 1: night of like multiple seasons to prepare myself. So you
Speaker 1: went home the first day and then this I actually went.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, I gotta get a nice suit.
Speaker 1: So I went to Gucci and bought and bought a suit,
Speaker 1: and then I thought it was tom for I'm not finished.
Speaker 1: So now we're trying on. It's like we have like
Speaker 1: four days to go and and it like just doesn't
Speaker 1: fit right, and my friends like turn around. Then I'm
Speaker 1: at his house. He's like it's really tight on your
Speaker 1: ass and it's like riding up and now, well, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? Because I can't look like
Speaker 1: pee wee Hermann on this show, and so I'm like, ah,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I mean I only go on TV once.
Speaker 1: Fuck it. We go to tom Ford and buy another suit.
Speaker 1: So I bought. I spent like so much money on
Speaker 1: suits and like nice ones, and then I went home
Speaker 1: the first night, so I have the Time four one,
Speaker 1: the Gucci one. They took it back and they gave
Speaker 1: me the credit. And then I bought another suit and
Speaker 1: tried to wear it to the mentel all and they
Speaker 1: wouldn't let me wear it on TV. This bad luck
Speaker 1: with suits and I was like one dude that he
Speaker 1: got like a whole new wardrobe, six suits. He was
Speaker 1: crying like, yeah, you got to send home the first night.
Speaker 1: It was terrible that I remember his name was Milton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about first night. This is a big one
Speaker 1: for you, Joe. You can really participate in this station.
Speaker 1: That was the worst night. You know, I don't remember,
Speaker 1: like other than Eric and Brian because you were on
Speaker 1: my season, I don't remember everybody's limo exit. So I'll
Speaker 1: go great, good, this makes for good content. I want
Speaker 1: to know, let's go around the table and say what
Speaker 1: your limo insurance was? Okay, so mine? I was prepping
Speaker 1: and um, the producers like, you know, just don't talk
Speaker 1: until you reach her. I'm like okay, And as soon
Speaker 1: as I've opened the doors, I'm like, are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like mister Italian comes out. Then I walk up to
Speaker 1: where I talked to her for like two minutes and
Speaker 1: I'm not making any sense, and I know I'm not
Speaker 1: making any sense, and I could just feel myself get
Speaker 1: like pale, and I'm like, this is this is just horrible.
Speaker 1: So finally I'm like I forgot everything I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: and she's like after talking for two minutes, She's like what,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, nice to meet you. I'm Joe. And
Speaker 1: I walk in and I say what the fuck? And
Speaker 1: they actually irrit it, which I couldn't believe, and and
Speaker 1: that was it. Then I walked in and I kind
Speaker 1: of was like all right, and I stood there and
Speaker 1: got a bear and I tried talking to people, but
Speaker 1: I just couldn't really groove with anyone. Yeah, first night,
Speaker 1: it's tough. And then you got to Becca and he said,
Speaker 1: what's your biggest Then I got to be guy. I
Speaker 1: would have had the second conversation with Becca and I said,
Speaker 1: what's your pet? Peas? And I couldn't believe I asked
Speaker 1: that question and I didn't even have an answer for myself.
Speaker 1: She looked at me like I was crazy, And next
Speaker 1: thing I knew, she was gone, and I was standing
Speaker 1: there by myself, and I thought, I cannot believe I
Speaker 1: agreed to come on this show. What is wrong with me?
Speaker 1: This is so embarrassing, And then I went home. I
Speaker 1: would have thought that Joe would have been cute the
Speaker 1: first night, because that nervousness. He's kind of like that
Speaker 1: on Paradise the first day too, But I would say
Speaker 1: that you were a little more suave on the first
Speaker 1: day of Paradise because he went in for the kiss
Speaker 1: the first day. Well, Obrien, it was it was right
Speaker 1: after I said, Oh, I'm so glad that no one's
Speaker 1: trying to kiss me or not kiss me. No one's
Speaker 1: trying to like make claims. Everyone kind of feeling it out.
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, that's what I'm trying to do
Speaker 1: right now. But Paradise. Paradise was different because Paradise you
Speaker 1: could chill for your chilling and talking to everyone for
Speaker 1: like eight hours, you know, and then you're going for
Speaker 1: the kiss. Spoilers like that in the bath re Bachelorette
Speaker 1: where yeah, you had to make a move quickly before
Speaker 1: anybody else did. Correct, Kennel, how did you come out
Speaker 1: of the lima? Oh it, would you have a dead animal? No?
Speaker 1: I did not have an animal. I waited, I think
Speaker 1: maybe day to bring it. I brought the first piece
Speaker 1: of text for me. I brought was a pickled bat,
Speaker 1: and so that a pickled bat, and then are named
Speaker 1: her Victoria. Wow. Did we see that? Yeah? Okay, because
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I like, that's what I hope
Speaker 1: that at friends Giving, we tell some behind the scenes
Speaker 1: things that people don't get. We have so many dead
Speaker 1: animals in our house. Okay, well I like to see
Speaker 1: them as the art of nature, you know, the art
Speaker 1: of nature preserved. We have many specimens. I love it
Speaker 1: privage for Halloween by the way, No, yeah, it's And
Speaker 1: Joe actually contributed to the collection. He got me a
Speaker 1: badger that we've named beaver because I thought it was
Speaker 1: a beaver. Well, we were at this tax that room
Speaker 1: shop in Texas and I really wanted this badge because
Speaker 1: I've always wanted a badge room my collection. And Joe
Speaker 1: is like, how much for the beaver and the tax terms?
Speaker 1: And I were like, he's actually a badge, So it's
Speaker 1: the badger named beaver um. But yeah. So for the
Speaker 1: first night, I was extremely me nervous. I was also
Speaker 1: very paranoid, and because you don't know going into it,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I used to work behind the scenes in television,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking where's the actors and all this stuff?
Speaker 1: And I was fully on guard, praying for people to
Speaker 1: mess with me. But it wasn't like that, like there
Speaker 1: were there was no actors. It was very much so
Speaker 1: much more real than I expected it to be. And
Speaker 1: I think after I got an idea of um, oh
Speaker 1: this is real. All these people are here, um and
Speaker 1: they're real people. They're not you know, I don't like
Speaker 1: a script or anything. That's when I let my guard down.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't until like the first week until I
Speaker 1: was actually like realizing that was the case. But what'd
Speaker 1: you say out of the limo? Didn't you sing a song? Oh? No?
Speaker 1: I sang. I sang Ari, a song that I had
Speaker 1: written for him the second time we met. Okay, oh
Speaker 1: not the well, like the second talk of the night.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know that they show that they did.
Speaker 1: I was, well, I was so nervous that I sang.
Speaker 1: I mean, my voice wasn't that great. My voice isn't
Speaker 1: great in general. But yeah, so I like had the
Speaker 1: ukulele underneath the bench. We're sitting on the bench and
Speaker 1: I was like, I got something for you whipped up
Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa that. Yeah, I was just
Speaker 1: I think that's a bold move. You know it was
Speaker 1: you didn't know how that was gonna go. No, And
Speaker 1: I wrote the song the night before the day before.
Speaker 1: No one more costume than the first time he got
Speaker 1: a skin rash, that was all. Yeah. He was on
Speaker 1: the sidelines for the first night. He was sitting on
Speaker 1: the side like we had a chickens too, chicken, yeah,
Speaker 1: a chicken. We had this yeah cycle running him. Um no,
Speaker 1: I see. I think when people wear a costume it's
Speaker 1: really daring. So it's like, you know, I got to
Speaker 1: give you an a for effort. And then with Matt
Speaker 1: breaking out in a full body rash, I couldn't send
Speaker 1: him all to you and your rash get okay ta,
Speaker 1: how did you come out of? Well? Eric, I know,
Speaker 1: I'll let you give a chance to say, how you well?
Speaker 1: It was really simple and quick. I was nervous, purvous. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was frightening. I was in a limo with Dean
Speaker 1: and de Mario and I wasn't drinking. I was so nervous.
Speaker 1: I got the rachel. I don't know what I said.
Speaker 1: I think I said, why do I keep seeing you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I think that was it. Not just but we
Speaker 1: had already met because of well the gym and then Afar,
Speaker 1: so it was like three times three times. So but
Speaker 1: it was cool, but nervous. I was the same way.
Speaker 1: I didn't have anything prepared. Coming out of Lamo, I
Speaker 1: just like walked out and I remember looking at him
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the heck am I doing here?
Speaker 1: And I completely blacked out and I was like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm nervous. I know nothing about you, but you have
Speaker 1: a big heart, so do I. And then I walked in.
Speaker 1: But then I had Tashia land inside, so that was fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cute. I was like, what do I do? What
Speaker 1: do I do? So I just started coming up with
Speaker 1: lots of ideas and spin things out. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I was like, what if I do a magic trick?
Speaker 1: I don't know magic, but I'm gonna try and do one.
Speaker 1: And she was like what are you gonna do? I'm
Speaker 1: like I don't know, So I'm just like give me
Speaker 1: ideas and she's like, what if you do something because
Speaker 1: he's a virgin, and I'm like, shoot, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do this. I don't want to do this. But
Speaker 1: I said pick a card, any card. He grabs a
Speaker 1: card and I'm like, hold on, like, just imagine what
Speaker 1: card that is? Like, like put it into the universe.
Speaker 1: I grab the card, I shuffled them up. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: pick this card. And he's like, okay, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: pick a card again. I grab it and I'm like
Speaker 1: I look at it, like I think I know what
Speaker 1: your card is. I'm like, I don't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but I think I just took your V card because
Speaker 1: I go, can I take that? I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: so lame. I'm not a nervous person, but I was
Speaker 1: nervous that night because I don't think what people get
Speaker 1: is you roll up to them. It happened so fast.
Speaker 1: You roll up to the mansion and then like whoever
Speaker 1: the lead is is just standing there and it's eerily quiet,
Speaker 1: and you think you're going to see all these cameras
Speaker 1: and they're kind of farther away than you, and the
Speaker 1: ground is wet, and you're like, oh, hey, my dress.
Speaker 1: You know, you guys don't have to worry about that,
Speaker 1: and it's just so scary, and you're like, this is
Speaker 1: it that there's no turning I remember thinking there's no
Speaker 1: turning back. This is it. Here you go. It's terrifying.
Speaker 1: I walked into the bathroom and stared at myself in
Speaker 1: the mirror and thought, there's no going back. I can't, Like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing I could do let me go back out there.
Speaker 1: You're like make your way back out all right times too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you have to give advice to someone who, I mean,
Speaker 1: like we know Peter filming his season, and so they've
Speaker 1: already done their first night. So I think that's the
Speaker 1: best night when you get to meet the people for
Speaker 1: the first time, see the hometown packages, and then also
Speaker 1: see what crazy things they do the first night. If
Speaker 1: you're going to give advice to someone for this next season,
Speaker 1: whoever the bachelorette's going to be and who's coming out,
Speaker 1: what would you tell them to do? Should they go
Speaker 1: all out? Should they make a scene? Should they have
Speaker 1: a prop? Should they just say a speech? I mean,
Speaker 1: and I always follow the I followed the kiss principles,
Speaker 1: keep it simple, stupid. I came out just myself, smiled,
Speaker 1: talked a little in Spanish. I actually got great advice
Speaker 1: going on the show a good buddy of mine Eric,
Speaker 1: you know him. Just literally focus on the lead no
Speaker 1: matter what I mean. I had seen the show before,
Speaker 1: so I knew that she was going to have relationships
Speaker 1: and connections with other guys, so I mentally prepared myself
Speaker 1: for that. But then also, don't start any drama, and
Speaker 1: don't talk behind anybody's back. Just follow those three pieces
Speaker 1: of advice, and that kind of helped me out a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you want to showcase your personality in some way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I feel like taking a big breath before you
Speaker 1: get out. I was the first one out of my limo,
Speaker 1: and so I think when I walked away, Ari said, oh,
Speaker 1: she was really nervous, you know. So it's it's just
Speaker 1: I think maybe putting it in perspective of, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not just you meeting them, They're also meeting you,
Speaker 1: you know, and so having that perspective of it's not
Speaker 1: all about them, although they are the lead, it's also
Speaker 1: about you, Like that's meeting you and you your personality.
Speaker 1: So I would say that's what I would buys. I mean,
Speaker 1: you were nervous. Imagine I guess I wasn't nervous because
Speaker 1: I thought they are here for me. This is so
Speaker 1: empowering that and then you can I could hear them
Speaker 1: saying Rachel in the car, and I was like, that's me,
Speaker 1: you know, they're here to see me. And I was
Speaker 1: so excited for who was going to come out and
Speaker 1: what they were going to do, and all these new
Speaker 1: people that were coming into my life, and I just
Speaker 1: like couldn't wait to meet everybody, you know, whether you
Speaker 1: were going home the first night or not. I was
Speaker 1: just so excited. And one thing for me, I kept saying,
Speaker 1: never forget what it feels like to be in their shoes.
Speaker 1: So anytime I was talking to someone, I tried to
Speaker 1: give them my full attention because I was like, I
Speaker 1: know what it's like to have just five ten minutes
Speaker 1: with them and they've been waiting all day, or you've
Speaker 1: been waiting all day to talk to that person. But
Speaker 1: what was your least favorite part of filming? I'll tell
Speaker 1: you mine. It's girl chats. Straight up, girl, you want
Speaker 1: to go have a girl chat? No, I don't. I
Speaker 1: hate them. And so for those of you who don't
Speaker 1: know girl chats are, or those of you listening, girl
Speaker 1: chats are when you know everyone else, not everyone, but
Speaker 1: people are off on a date, whether it be a
Speaker 1: one on one a group date. You're sitting around the
Speaker 1: house with absolutely nothing to do, but tan read may
Speaker 1: pretend to work out, drink and like they're or cook
Speaker 1: if if you're one of them, I was definitely not
Speaker 1: the going to cooking in the house, there's always one.
Speaker 1: There's no chef in the bachelor mansion. People don't know
Speaker 1: forget that. But girl chats or guy chats are when
Speaker 1: they say, hey, do you want to go talk about it?
Speaker 1: And usually you're talking about your feelings or the other
Speaker 1: girls that are on the date and what that feels
Speaker 1: like to be at home. But there I despised them.
Speaker 1: I would always try to, like sleep or I don't know,
Speaker 1: run away, actually have a different perspective. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, Eric, but I've never talked about
Speaker 1: my feelings more in my life with another dude. Then
Speaker 1: I did on that show for sure, and you liked it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it helped me be
Speaker 1: a better person. I mean it was funny because when
Speaker 1: I got home, I remember talking to my other guy
Speaker 1: friends that weren't on the show obviously, and just started, hey, man,
Speaker 1: how you feeling. Yeah, I started really getting deep. I
Speaker 1: will agree that being on the show almost makes you
Speaker 1: like express your feelings so much more. You talk more
Speaker 1: about your feelings, Like right off the bat, I was
Speaker 1: like crying in front of people, talking about how I
Speaker 1: was feeling in front of people. It was I think
Speaker 1: it was really incredible. It's very transformative, Like I feel
Speaker 1: it helps you be better in relationships and also you
Speaker 1: getting more apathy for other people as well, because you
Speaker 1: see everyone going through the same experience that you went
Speaker 1: through and you have an understanding of, like their perspective.
Speaker 1: I think that's what I got from it. You can
Speaker 1: see I hated that I'd like talking to the producer. Once,
Speaker 1: once I got comfortable with my producer, I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: But like like you said, girl Chats, Guy Chats, like,
Speaker 1: I don't even think I did any of them, Like
Speaker 1: even even in Paradise, I don't think I was part
Speaker 1: of anyone because I just wouldn't talk. I would just
Speaker 1: sit there and be like, you're full shit, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I felt, which is wrong,
Speaker 1: you know, it isn't the right way to be. But
Speaker 1: I was really in my head. Yeah, I was really
Speaker 1: in my head too. For girl Chats. I felt like
Speaker 1: when a question would come up, I felt that I
Speaker 1: was it felt like acting. Yeah, I was thinking, this
Speaker 1: isn't how I talk, this isn't how I would approach
Speaker 1: the conversation. But I'm going to try and give you
Speaker 1: my input, and it was just felt very abnormal to me,
Speaker 1: and so I try to stay away from girl chats
Speaker 1: as well. What was I like? I mean, I like
Speaker 1: man chats only because it allowed me, because I think
Speaker 1: for me, it allowed me to listen to understand a
Speaker 1: person's perspective, how they was raised, what they believe in
Speaker 1: that model of the world. I mean, it was a
Speaker 1: moment we were in I think Copenhagen and you was like,
Speaker 1: man E, I feel like you gotta, you know, some
Speaker 1: momentum because urniracial, who has something going on earlier that
Speaker 1: was wasn't so great And we kind of smooth all
Speaker 1: the way through. And like just having that back and
Speaker 1: forth and that trust amongst one another, it makes you
Speaker 1: feel like grounded and you feel okay. But then there
Speaker 1: was moments where the lead and the right situation when
Speaker 1: I'm being vulnerable and I'm telling it and they're using
Speaker 1: my truth against me, and I'm like, yeah, who does that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. You gotta be careful because you're
Speaker 1: you don't know the other person's intentions. Like you said,
Speaker 1: they might use that information against you, but you are
Speaker 1: when you're just on such a high and you and
Speaker 1: you really are grateful. And someone told me as I not.
Speaker 1: Some one Ali told me when I was going into
Speaker 1: this season to be the bachelorette, she said, take advantage
Speaker 1: of every moment. It goes by so fast. It's a lot,
Speaker 1: and you're going to be exhausted, but truly appreciate every
Speaker 1: single day. And so as tired as I was, I
Speaker 1: would always say, Okay, let me just be grateful and
Speaker 1: thankful that I'm here and I have this opportunity, and
Speaker 1: I'm in Norway of all places, and now I'm you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like you have to pinch yourself one to
Speaker 1: see if it's real. I always joke that I swear
Speaker 1: I'm going to pinch myself wake up one day and
Speaker 1: all of you will just be a figment of my imagination.
Speaker 1: Like I'll walk past you in the grocery store, I'm like,
Speaker 1: she looks familiar. Where did I know her from? Oh?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. Isn't that how you felt
Speaker 1: when you got home? Though? Like from after filming, I
Speaker 1: felt like was I just inn a dream? Alternate reality?
Speaker 1: Because like you come home and like everything's exactly the
Speaker 1: same like when you left, Like your parents are doing
Speaker 1: the same sact thing. Everything's the same, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just went to like five countries, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know what to happen. You're in a dream, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you come back and you can't really talk about it.
Speaker 1: I was like, what just happened to me? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you are in another world. It is different. World stops
Speaker 1: when you're in that bubble because you don't have your phone, TV.
Speaker 1: You're completely disconnected from everything. Your world is the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: you know, It's like if there was a Chris Harrison
Speaker 1: would be like the god. Yeah, and you know, the
Speaker 1: producers are your parents and these are your only friends.
Speaker 1: Was one man or one woman in this world? Truly,
Speaker 1: That's how it is. We were talking about this before
Speaker 1: that transition of when the show was over and you're
Speaker 1: done and you come back into the real world. Did
Speaker 1: you you guys find it difficult? Of course, Like, let's
Speaker 1: talk about that. I don't want to go out in public.
Speaker 1: I have social anxiety. My social anxiety was at an
Speaker 1: all time high. Yeah. I felt that everything I did,
Speaker 1: I was facing people, I was faced with questions I
Speaker 1: was everything was and it was almost the same question.
Speaker 1: And I felt that I had to show up and
Speaker 1: not be robotic but deliver with the same enthusiasm as
Speaker 1: when I first came back, and you know, said things
Speaker 1: to my parents or whatever, and even some things that
Speaker 1: were a little bit more I felt more negatively about.
Speaker 1: I felt that I couldn't share or express those feelings
Speaker 1: with just general fans. So it was a weird. It
Speaker 1: was weird to try and get out of my house
Speaker 1: because I felt like, I don't even want to go
Speaker 1: to the grocery store because I don't want people to
Speaker 1: talk to me. Even though I'm grateful and appreciative of
Speaker 1: these people supporting me, I feel that I'm constantly explaining
Speaker 1: myself and it was making me feel it was I
Speaker 1: was disconnecting from the actual emotional part of it because
Speaker 1: I felt like a speech At one point, I felt
Speaker 1: like I was just like spitting out answers and not
Speaker 1: giving people full me. Yeah, you go through a lot
Speaker 1: of evolution and growth while you're on the show, and
Speaker 1: so you're almost coming back to the same world as
Speaker 1: a different person. So I felt like everything else was
Speaker 1: the same, but I had changed so much, and everyone
Speaker 1: that I was used to knowing everything about me since
Speaker 1: I was a kid wasn't a part of that, and
Speaker 1: I was also for the first time able to make
Speaker 1: decisions and go through like the mental processes without having
Speaker 1: the people that usually give their input in my life.
Speaker 1: My family's very involved in my life. My friends were
Speaker 1: very involved, especially when it comes to dating, and they
Speaker 1: were not. I think I had strangers basically helping me
Speaker 1: through something that was supposed to be like finding the
Speaker 1: love of my life. So um, I just felt like
Speaker 1: I had a new, a whole new like empowerment for
Speaker 1: what it meant to be myself going through a relationship
Speaker 1: as opposed to UM me and like my posse. You know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Once I got off, I was like and I knew
Speaker 1: people knew who I was. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. I can't wait. Like my friends and
Speaker 1: I we all went to a bar and everyone knew me.
Speaker 1: I was like, you can tell. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1: I was super excited for it. I could see Joe
Speaker 1: walking down the street the first time. Yeah. I literally
Speaker 1: I walked down on this grocery store job to Michigan Avenue,
Speaker 1: UM in Chicago. I was walking down the stream and
Speaker 1: girls were all like, oh my god, that sounds like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my life. So what is the first
Speaker 1: thing you did when you came back from filming. Obviously
Speaker 1: you went walking down Michigan. Take full advantage of this
Speaker 1: bathe in the film. I remember getting really sick, like
Speaker 1: I feel like I poured all my emotions. I called you,
Speaker 1: remember I FaceTime you, like early on I was bedridden,
Speaker 1: Like I think I just poured out so much emotion
Speaker 1: and I didn't get sick throughout the show. And then
Speaker 1: literally when I got home better than for like four
Speaker 1: days with the full your going. Yeah, I like so
Speaker 1: much adrenalineybody. Ideople don't understand either, Like we sacrificed so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: life out time, we energy and I don't think you
Speaker 1: know Broun or Rachel when when we were filming in Spain,
Speaker 1: I stayed extra ten days because right, they didn't want
Speaker 1: me to fly home. Yeah. So because I'm home and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the world, I'm like this is weird.
Speaker 1: Like I'm training people getting like I can't do this,
Speaker 1: and I was on edge. I was chippy, like I
Speaker 1: didn't have patience for anything. If you did anything I
Speaker 1: didn't like, I will let you know, yeah, letting people now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're so like in this energy and this vibration
Speaker 1: of how you feeling, what's going on, people in being
Speaker 1: your space and I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: And you get home when someone does something like Noah,
Speaker 1: stop that. I felt like I had the Joe effect.
Speaker 1: I went out on party, yet I went straight to
Speaker 1: the club. I was like, my friend back, I'm the
Speaker 1: coolest person here, right, so awesome. After Paradise, Joe, you
Speaker 1: went to uh, like, what was it? It was oh no,
Speaker 1: sorry bachelorette. It was Saint Patrick's. Well that wasn't as
Speaker 1: good because that I was like, oh, fa fa, I
Speaker 1: can't show. The first night Paradise was hard for me
Speaker 1: because I was like trying to hold back crying the
Speaker 1: entire time on the plane, the entire time on the Uber.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell people I had gotten home until I
Speaker 1: actually landed back in um California, and so I was
Speaker 1: trying to cry the entire time. I called my mom
Speaker 1: and she's like, how was it? What happened? I was like,
Speaker 1: And so as soon as I got home, my roommate
Speaker 1: come came running out to me, and I burst into tears,
Speaker 1: and I swear I don't think I stopped crying for
Speaker 1: like three days until Joe got done in those dms
Speaker 1: and then I was fine. But I I just remember
Speaker 1: the first thing I did is I got all my
Speaker 1: girlfriends together. We had wine. I went up in my
Speaker 1: attic that I kind of turned into a little hangout
Speaker 1: room and I just went up there and told everyone
Speaker 1: what happened, and like was crying and drinking wine. So well,
Speaker 1: that's good. She surrounded yourself a play? Yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you what is the most you know, what's the
Speaker 1: question that everyone asks you when you come off the show? Like,
Speaker 1: what's the most prominent or consistent question? Is it real? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it really produced? Do you still a grocery store?
Speaker 1: Are you? Did you really fall in love? Were you
Speaker 1: gonna get married? Are you are you doing? Yeah? Like,
Speaker 1: don't get that. Yeah. Did anybody keep anything from the show?
Speaker 1: Oh I have a whole bot? What Okay, we're starting
Speaker 1: with you. I definitely I feel like the girls do
Speaker 1: it more. But go ahead, say show. I have all
Speaker 1: my roses have on my journal. I know, because it's
Speaker 1: like a it's a it's a it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: You guys, you know you have like this little box
Speaker 1: and like nobody will ever like the rose I would
Speaker 1: like come out and like I showed my friend a
Speaker 1: little something and they're like no, Like I had like
Speaker 1: a shirt from my skydiving I that I have I suit,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fighting suit. So um, I have like a
Speaker 1: random towel um from one of my dates. It's just
Speaker 1: like I have a lot of whole things. How did
Speaker 1: you preserve the roses? I tried that for like the
Speaker 1: first couple of weeks and they all started a stink
Speaker 1: and mylded. I molded, hang them upside down, and then
Speaker 1: like I was smashing in my book. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: put them in like a ziplock and they all molded
Speaker 1: and done. Kindel, you kept roses. I kept the rose
Speaker 1: that Joe gave me from Paradise. I still have that
Speaker 1: rose on those roses. But Andy, all of them from
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, they all molded because you had to travel,
Speaker 1: and I put them a little bag as well. And
Speaker 1: the moisture of course. Yeah sorry, I was always so
Speaker 1: like nervous or giddy afterwards. I would always pluck on
Speaker 1: my roses just so it was just a stem, every
Speaker 1: single rose. You even see me when I get engaged,
Speaker 1: I'm doing the little We filmed a little afterwards and
Speaker 1: my roses just like nothing, there's nothing on her. It
Speaker 1: was just a stem. I was just like waving around
Speaker 1: a stem because it's like your nervous that's my nervous habit.
Speaker 1: I'm just plucking the whole rose, like les, I got it.
Speaker 1: I say roses too. When I was on nixt season
Speaker 1: and I say date cards. I don't know. There was
Speaker 1: something about getting the date card and like keeping it
Speaker 1: and then when especially when you separate and go to hometowns,
Speaker 1: it's like I would read the date cards again, like
Speaker 1: you try to see if there's like a deeper meaning.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you did that. Yeah you do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm doing too. I mean that's your world. So it's
Speaker 1: like you're holding on to all of that. I but
Speaker 1: don't worry. I mean once once I was bastrette, I
Speaker 1: threw everything away an experience, so probably a year ago
Speaker 1: around this time, I want to go take my pea
Speaker 1: coat to the cleaners, right, And that was the pea
Speaker 1: coat I was wearing in Spain. So I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is this some like pocket So it's the fantasy sweetcart
Speaker 1: with the key. Funny, but it brought back those memories
Speaker 1: and time. It was just beautiful, but I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to hold on to it, but I
Speaker 1: guess it was Oh my gosh, present someone with that box.
Speaker 1: But it was funny. All right, let's get juicy. Oh,
Speaker 1: anybody has something to share, some tea to spill, or
Speaker 1: your champagne, since that's what we're drinking in the room.
Speaker 1: Some champagne to spill about things that happened, maybe behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, maybe a funny moment that we don't know about.
Speaker 1: You can start. Can we just do a toast because
Speaker 1: they say his friends give. Oh we did talk about gratitude,
Speaker 1: and I think I appreciate everyone at this table while
Speaker 1: laves have changed and you know, some of us happy
Speaker 1: friends giving. Okay, who's got the tea? Don't try to
Speaker 1: change the subject. No, anything behind the scenes, Like there
Speaker 1: has to be something. We had babies in one I
Speaker 1: was cute though, I feel like I like seeing you
Speaker 1: with a baby. Yeah, yeah, it was really cute. After that,
Speaker 1: you cried, you broke down. You're like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's another thing. After before we went
Speaker 1: to get a drink. After handling the babies, I literally
Speaker 1: we literally had two hours of sleep. It's that and
Speaker 1: then I had to like take care of a child.
Speaker 1: Um was crying the entire time. It was really hot,
Speaker 1: and I felt really bad and emotionally, of course you're
Speaker 1: going through everything. Um. And so yeah, right before we went,
Speaker 1: I broke down and I was like, oh, can I
Speaker 1: get ready before we go? Get drinks like on the beach,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I just want to feel pretty.
Speaker 1: There's my most diva moment. I think of the entire thing.
Speaker 1: I cried when you say when you said I wanted
Speaker 1: to feel pretty, that makes me think of the proposal day,
Speaker 1: because the wind was insane and when I tell you,
Speaker 1: I looked so pretty before, like my hair was together
Speaker 1: in this messy bun, and then we step out there
Speaker 1: and it's just And they had moved the date up
Speaker 1: because the weather was supposed to be so bad the
Speaker 1: real day, and it was still awful and my hair
Speaker 1: was flying over and you could see my weed and
Speaker 1: I was mortified, and I'm literally in tears. And then
Speaker 1: Brian starts walking up and I was like, get out
Speaker 1: of you're gotta here. Was mortified. I used to always
Speaker 1: with Brian, try to give him my room number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and so like I would like if my room
Speaker 1: number was like one, two, three, I'd be like like that,
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I'm putting fingers on the table. Yes, So
Speaker 1: you gave me your room in multiple times and I
Speaker 1: was like, I never I never got a chance to
Speaker 1: go up there because my producers like, no, you can't
Speaker 1: do that, and I was very by the rules, by
Speaker 1: the books. I was like, unless the follower, but I
Speaker 1: was so upset. I was like, if any if I
Speaker 1: see on the show when it airs, anybody else go
Speaker 1: up to because I had multiple chances, but they said,
Speaker 1: they said that you could, but there would have to
Speaker 1: be a camera also when we have to having a
Speaker 1: camera in when you're yeah, I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's about sneaking into the room. Yes, And then one
Speaker 1: after one of those, this makes me think of something else,
Speaker 1: And I wonder if this happened to anyone during your
Speaker 1: time of filming. When we were in Norway, ours, the
Speaker 1: whole everything was haunted. Did you guys deal with that?
Speaker 1: I had a spirit in my room every in Denver.
Speaker 1: Did you feel something? It was odd? But apparently that
Speaker 1: was a haunted hotel they told me later, Tasia, I
Speaker 1: want to hear your story after this. But my TV.
Speaker 1: So I had a two story room and my TV. Look,
Speaker 1: I see this skeptic go looking at me. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: My TV turned on by itself upstairs, and I'm so
Speaker 1: exhausted that I just put the covers over my head
Speaker 1: and I was like whatever, I'm too tired to care
Speaker 1: about it. And it was like two in the morning
Speaker 1: or something in your hotel. In my hotel, that's probably
Speaker 1: because like all the TV's are connected, and I would say,
Speaker 1: maybe like the room above you might have changed. There
Speaker 1: was no room above me. The roof was above me. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have two story. It was two story, so anyways,
Speaker 1: universal romote maybe two. So then the next day I'm
Speaker 1: talking to audio and the cameraman and they're telling me
Speaker 1: all these stories about um past seasons of having haunted
Speaker 1: hotels and seeing things and weird things that have happened,
Speaker 1: and we're doing it in the room and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like two nights ago. And then they all left.
Speaker 1: And then that next next night, the same time of night,
Speaker 1: the TV turn on again by itself. I grabbed everything
Speaker 1: that I could across the hall that was planning, bing,
Speaker 1: ran across the hall to a producer's room, banged on
Speaker 1: the door and I was like, let me sleep in here.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it again. I was, I had a
Speaker 1: haunted room, but go ahead, and it's so scary. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well we seed it at a haunted house in Denver.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, okay, somewhere on a plane. So we
Speaker 1: see hoell in Denver that was haunted and um, Kirpa
Speaker 1: and I were staying in this room. It was like
Speaker 1: it's very old. It's like an old library and um,
Speaker 1: I just remember it was at night and I'm like
Speaker 1: a light sleeper kind of and I heard this noise
Speaker 1: and it was like like you know, like a nail
Speaker 1: scratching like on like a linails. Like okay, I heard that,
Speaker 1: and I was like okay, and like I like close
Speaker 1: my eyes again and I heard again, like tenute later,
Speaker 1: and I was like as soon as I heard that,
Speaker 1: I was like Kurpa and Kurpa sleeping and I hit her.
Speaker 1: I'm like Kurpa and she was like yeah, I'm like Kurpa,
Speaker 1: did you hear that? She's like no, what's wrong? And
Speaker 1: like Kurpa and then she turns over. She's like Tasia
Speaker 1: I'm like what. I'm like, why are you saying my
Speaker 1: name like that? She turned the light. I'm like Tasha.
Speaker 1: She's like, Tashia, turn on the light. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: Kurpa stopped playing with me right now. I turn on
Speaker 1: the light. And the curtain was like it looked like
Speaker 1: a body was behind the curtain, okay, and we're staring
Speaker 1: at it. We're straight up staring at it. There's like
Speaker 1: a hump in the curtain and we're like and then
Speaker 1: we started like hitting each other, like what do we do?
Speaker 1: What do we do? And I'm like, no, it has
Speaker 1: like the air conditioning event, like it has to be something.
Speaker 1: So then I don't know what I did. But I
Speaker 1: literally took my comforter and I lifted it up because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna go, like I don't know what
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna do. I lived at a
Speaker 1: comforter and it literally what it flackened out and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, hero, no, and you guys, it was
Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning. It was three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, and so we chill iroom. We literally were
Speaker 1: like screaming like what do we do? What do we do?
Speaker 1: What do we do, and then um I prayed and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's go back into the room.
Speaker 1: We went back in the room, and then UM, in
Speaker 1: the morning we looked and there was an air conditioning
Speaker 1: vent like right in the spot right and I was like,
Speaker 1: see it was the air conditioning. It was nothing. So
Speaker 1: then I went to like the hostess lady. I was like, so, like, um,
Speaker 1: is like the air conditioning on like at night or
Speaker 1: like the heater, I mean, because it was like cold.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh no, we haven't turned it on for
Speaker 1: the winter yet. I'm like, so, like, there's like no
Speaker 1: air coming on that thing. She's like no. I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: We had a spirit no airs coming out of I
Speaker 1: would die. It was you, guys, I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 1: The second I lifted my comforter as if I was
Speaker 1: getting out of the bed, it flattened out and it
Speaker 1: was gone. I believe you. I remembered when during nixt
Speaker 1: season we were in Wisconsin and there Sarah and Raven
Speaker 1: were in a room and they said they both saw
Speaker 1: the same lighting in the room and I was across
Speaker 1: I was across the hall from them, and I was like,
Speaker 1: but but, like, how close was she to my room?
Speaker 1: But they said they described her to it. It was
Speaker 1: it was something weird like that, like a lady or whatever.
Speaker 1: And when they told us, we were all in their
Speaker 1: room having snacks for some reason, and I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: because I do this thing can't attach to me. Do
Speaker 1: you have a Joe, do you have a spirit story
Speaker 1: to tell? Joe's the biggest skeptic. He doesn't believe any
Speaker 1: of this right now. No, I don't. You don't believe
Speaker 1: my spirit story. I believe that's what you. I believe
Speaker 1: you believe it. I do believe that, like I believe
Speaker 1: you saw like like I just think. You know, I
Speaker 1: just don't believe in ghosts. I just don't, do you
Speaker 1: kindle um, I used to have, uh, sleep paralysis. I
Speaker 1: still kind of have it. I get that too in
Speaker 1: that sense. I don't know if it's either a ghost
Speaker 1: or maybe my brain. I think your reality can be
Speaker 1: greatly skewed by a number of factors, Like our brains
Speaker 1: are our brains constructed reality we see and you can
Speaker 1: see by some people if they're color blind, or some
Speaker 1: people who have different like views of reality, Like your
Speaker 1: mind is in control of that change. I mean I
Speaker 1: always feel like there has to be some scientific explanation
Speaker 1: to like why you see certain things, why I experience
Speaker 1: certain things like sleep. Last paralysis for me was something
Speaker 1: in my mind that you know, got me stuck in
Speaker 1: the middle of rem sleep. Or it was anxiety, or
Speaker 1: it was something like that. So I mean because if I,
Speaker 1: if I didn't allow myself to see a scientific explanation,
Speaker 1: I would probably like feel like I was possessed by
Speaker 1: a demon, which I don't want at that point on
Speaker 1: the show, even if it is a spirit, you are
Speaker 1: so sleep deprived by that point that it could be
Speaker 1: a number of things, and your mind will go anywhere. No,
Speaker 1: it was out there with you because that TV. I
Speaker 1: did not imagine that that TV was on, and it
Speaker 1: turned on twice by itself now. And what I also
Speaker 1: didn't tell you was the first night that it changed
Speaker 1: on was changing channels. Oh okay, And I did not
Speaker 1: like it, Like yeah, like it's not that I could hear.
Speaker 1: I could tell that the programs were different, like I
Speaker 1: could hear it changing, but I was so exhausted I
Speaker 1: just thought, well, if it's gonna come get me, it's
Speaker 1: gonna come get me. Because I'm so tired at this
Speaker 1: point to deal with it. But this is this is
Speaker 1: a perfect segue into mental health because because this show
Speaker 1: can drive you crazy and it and I still stand
Speaker 1: by Tasha. I believe you saw a spirit. I believe
Speaker 1: there was one in my room, but that is not
Speaker 1: a guitar or sanity in any kind of way. But
Speaker 1: what is the best way that you guys, because we
Speaker 1: talk about we talk about the kennel. You said the anxiety,
Speaker 1: and um, Katie, you said sleep deprived and you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're exhausted and you're going through so many emotions in
Speaker 1: a way that you haven't before, and it's also accelerated.
Speaker 1: So each of you and anybody can take this first.
Speaker 1: What's the best way to deal with your mental health?
Speaker 1: But what were some ways that you were able to
Speaker 1: cope with, you know, being in this world. I journaled
Speaker 1: a lot on my season, and I think because it
Speaker 1: was very hard to meditate because if you ever were
Speaker 1: caught just sitting doing nothing, I felt that people needed
Speaker 1: you for some reason or needed to go do a
Speaker 1: girl chat or whatever it was. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't be caught doing nothing, even if it's meditating.
Speaker 1: They won't see it as that, so I would journal,
Speaker 1: and that journaling would kind of you know, it was
Speaker 1: a puzzle to my mind and how my mind was
Speaker 1: working or why I was thinking certain ways. So that
Speaker 1: helped me the most, I would say, Yeah, it helped
Speaker 1: me grow while I was there, because there were things
Speaker 1: I felt I couldn't talk to the girls about and
Speaker 1: that were only for me, and journaling was like my
Speaker 1: number one go too. There's when you're on the show,
Speaker 1: I feel like feeling like, of course, these are your
Speaker 1: friends and you trust people to a certain extent, but
Speaker 1: in reality you've only known them for how long, you know,
Speaker 1: So I felt like there's a lot of things I
Speaker 1: did keep to myself, and in Paradise I would write
Speaker 1: a journal. But I think after the show, um, when
Speaker 1: it wasn't being filmed and you weren't as vulnerable in
Speaker 1: that sense, Um, I did find security with other people
Speaker 1: who went through the same experience, which is why I
Speaker 1: feel like after the show you do more. So I
Speaker 1: feel like you connect with people that were on your season,
Speaker 1: so um, in the group chats, or you can meet
Speaker 1: up with people who live in like near you, you
Speaker 1: can just talk about what happened in paradise for me,
Speaker 1: I felt like, I'm like, this is like a vacation,
Speaker 1: so like I mean, I really was, because you know,
Speaker 1: I like I worked, you know, in the real world,
Speaker 1: I worked a lot of hours. And then when I
Speaker 1: was there, I'm like, oh this is they take my
Speaker 1: cell phone. I deal with no bullshit and I'm just
Speaker 1: chilling on the beach. Everything's free, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is this is great. But you know, if I
Speaker 1: did like panic a little bit, I pace, I pace
Speaker 1: a lot. So in Paradise, I was always pacing, like
Speaker 1: always pascing because I was always thinking, like how could
Speaker 1: I become the next Bachelor? How could I know? I
Speaker 1: was always pacing though, because that just helps me, you know,
Speaker 1: my mind. Also, Joe plays with things like in his
Speaker 1: hands always is kind of messing with something. So during
Speaker 1: the entirety of this podcast, Joe has been playing with
Speaker 1: a little miniature pumpkin. I did, I did. I thought
Speaker 1: you were like squeezing. I thought it was I thought
Speaker 1: it was nervous energy or something like that. Well kind
Speaker 1: of it kind of is. It's just like it calms me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just works for me to fidget
Speaker 1: with things. Yeah, I feel like working out would be
Speaker 1: a good stress relief. But the damn mansion still to
Speaker 1: this day has no gem am I right, yeah, right, terrible.
Speaker 1: So people are just like making up exercises and you
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to run dangerous in that area around the
Speaker 1: mansion to run. Yeah. Yeah, I hate the Bachelor Mansion.
Speaker 1: Like I don't feel any kind of way when I
Speaker 1: go back and I see it, Like, I don't get
Speaker 1: any kind of feeling. It is not, no no sense
Speaker 1: of nostal I'm like, those beds are nasty and every
Speaker 1: night I wuldn't sleep there. I remember remember, like and
Speaker 1: I was having an interview actually, and I remember my
Speaker 1: eyes were swollen the day we were about to leave.
Speaker 1: My eyes were swollen, like I was delirious, and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: I was like, I just think I'm allergic to this mansion.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hated it. There's no chef, which I
Speaker 1: still am upset about. There's no place to work out.
Speaker 1: We actually could maybe they stopped it after our season,
Speaker 1: but we could go down and walk and run the
Speaker 1: workout classes like I led some. Yeah, so I guess
Speaker 1: it's the secret of the show. We would And then
Speaker 1: they called on to this. We'd wake up before anyone else, Me, Whitney,
Speaker 1: and Astroop would wake up like super early in the
Speaker 1: morning before they mic. You. We'd get a cup of coffee,
Speaker 1: we go to the gazebo and we would just talk,
Speaker 1: like say all the things that we couldn't say, um,
Speaker 1: like on camera or when we were mike. And then
Speaker 1: they eventually caught onto that and then they made us
Speaker 1: they pulled us away. Also, I would you know how
Speaker 1: there's the room with the balcony and it consted the
Speaker 1: other room. Yeah, we had this crazy hall monitor and
Speaker 1: so when the girls would come back from their day.
Speaker 1: I think it was her first season, so she was
Speaker 1: like really trying to impress. So when the girls would
Speaker 1: come back, we wanted to know what happened, but they
Speaker 1: would tell us to go to sleep. So I would
Speaker 1: bear crawl across the balcony, pull back the curtains, and
Speaker 1: I would be like, ashtrif what happened on the day
Speaker 1: because at one time, I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 1: During next season, they sent a girl home mid day, Liz.
Speaker 1: So Liz was in my room, so I was like,
Speaker 1: where's Liz, Why isn't she here? So we're like peeking,
Speaker 1: and she was like, where's Rachel. And what I had
Speaker 1: done is like I wear a scarf at night, and
Speaker 1: I'd put the scarf over the pillow and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: like bodies, and I had put the thing on. This
Speaker 1: phenomenal a lot of work, I know, but I was
Speaker 1: like destined to know all the information. And then she
Speaker 1: caught me and she's like, what are you doing because
Speaker 1: we put our suitcases on the balcony. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys did that too, Yeah, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for socks. Just random thing. Anyways, all that
Speaker 1: to say, I didn't know if you guys share my sentiment.
Speaker 1: It's I think the Bachelor may Mansion is a beautiful home. Hell,
Speaker 1: it's just not a home for twenty five people. How
Speaker 1: long were you guys there because we left early? Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the week three. Well some people were like week
Speaker 1: I thought it was I think your season on season
Speaker 1: it was that you got to oversee Ok, yeah, that
Speaker 1: normally doesn't happen that fast. You're really only in the
Speaker 1: mansion for like two weeks. Yeah, that's enough. It's enough
Speaker 1: to start crazy. I'd like to check it out. Joe,
Speaker 1: you didn't get the experienced part of me that kind
Speaker 1: of wishes I wasn't in love, because I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I'd love to get back there. Would you say casually,
Speaker 1: go like I should invite me. I mean we should
Speaker 1: do a little staycasions there. That would be I'm sure
Speaker 1: you don't know what this is a segment you guys
Speaker 1: should truly do this. You should do something maybe at
Speaker 1: the beginning of Peter's season before he comes in, just
Speaker 1: a segment of Joe experiencing the mansion for the first
Speaker 1: time upstairs, but jam him. Instead of Chris Harrison greeting
Speaker 1: the guy like Peter, you go greet him at first
Speaker 1: and then then and then like that's it, and then
Speaker 1: I just want I just want to expect put up
Speaker 1: in a lima. Well, I guess that's already happened, but
Speaker 1: alread happened. I changed group date, guys, I never had
Speaker 1: a group date. I never had a group date. Or
Speaker 1: maybe you lead like a tour for the first nighter
Speaker 1: you a lot. What is one thing no one told
Speaker 1: you about going on the show that you wish you
Speaker 1: have known. Oh, that's a good question. That's a great question,
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking, like, what is it. I will tell
Speaker 1: you that as the lead, I wish someone would have
Speaker 1: told me how hard it was going to be sending
Speaker 1: people home when I came on before, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know these people. It's gonna be nothing to
Speaker 1: be like I'm saving you, you know, like, just go home,
Speaker 1: you'll be fine. You get to go back to your
Speaker 1: normal life, It'll be fine. And I'm telling you from
Speaker 1: the first night, it is so hard for people to
Speaker 1: express to you their feelings and you're pushing them to
Speaker 1: open up and then you got to send them home.
Speaker 1: It is. It is truly something that I underestimated, and
Speaker 1: I wish somebody would have told me how hard that
Speaker 1: was going to be before. Yeah, I think I wish
Speaker 1: somebody would have home to relax more, because I was
Speaker 1: like so serious. I think the first question I asked
Speaker 1: you in the house was what was your biggest fear? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: She's like, it's like Rachel coming in. Yeah. I was like,
Speaker 1: you're too serious, mister. I was the same way. I
Speaker 1: was very like, oh, this is supposed to be accelerated.
Speaker 1: Let me ask accelerated questions d D. And then I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I think I'm scaring them away. I think I'm scaring
Speaker 1: them away. You got to find a balance, yeah, because
Speaker 1: you get you're nervous. I would say maybe not to
Speaker 1: keep your guard up as much because it is an
Speaker 1: expedited experience. You kind of have to force yourself to
Speaker 1: be ready for things way earlier, at least for me
Speaker 1: than I usually would be. So maybe just to how
Speaker 1: do you how do you drop your guard? I mean,
Speaker 1: just throw yourself at the experience, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: just you know, Yeah, I mean why not? I think
Speaker 1: I think there's strength and vulnerability. I mean then I
Speaker 1: say this after going through everything. Um, I wish that
Speaker 1: I saw the strength in my vulnerability earlier on because
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor I felt like I was definitely like
Speaker 1: holding everything at an arms distance. So by the time
Speaker 1: Paradise came around, I was a lot more receptive towards that.
Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, maybe have a drink first. And
Speaker 1: I did not drink for like the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I was like, no alcohol, I will not have an
Speaker 1: impaired judgment. Smart. I wish I would have taken like
Speaker 1: a friend that had a camera and just roll and
Speaker 1: just let me talk on camera. Yeah, just so because
Speaker 1: because I don't. I really didn't. I've never done that.
Speaker 1: So like when I was so when I saw the
Speaker 1: cameras and they were like, we're you know you are,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what at least because they're all
Speaker 1: judging me right now, I'm being judged. You guys are
Speaker 1: judging me. And I'm thinking that in my head because
Speaker 1: I wasn't used to it. And then I started hearing
Speaker 1: myself talk and I'm like, this is horrible. You know,
Speaker 1: I destroyed myself before I could even be myself judging years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you would have really benefited by being in a costume.
Speaker 1: And I'm dead serious because Joe would never but well,
Speaker 1: they asked me, they asked, I think say that. I
Speaker 1: think you would have taken away some of your nerves,
Speaker 1: like they can't see you, but you can see them,
Speaker 1: and then you know, once you would have taken it off,
Speaker 1: then he've been like okay, like he's not a dud,
Speaker 1: you know when you come, because that's what you're always
Speaker 1: afraid of when they when they're wearing them. That would
Speaker 1: have been. So if you're a Joe and you go
Speaker 1: on the season, well they asked me, They're like, do
Speaker 1: you want to do anything? And I'm like, no, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be myself. And I remember one of the
Speaker 1: producers is like, just have something, you know, just have
Speaker 1: something to say anything, but you need something to fall
Speaker 1: back on. And I had nothing and out there nothing
Speaker 1: and that's when I came home. What about you? Right
Speaker 1: for me? I don't know. I think it's just not
Speaker 1: be so much of a rule follower. Probably yeah, you
Speaker 1: had a game plan and it worked, it did, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I guess I just listened to producers every
Speaker 1: single time, and I was like, you know, maybe I
Speaker 1: should just do it, like wing it and do it.
Speaker 1: And but that's like he's such a rule follower, Like
Speaker 1: he's always like, well it says this. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: who cares about that. But it's such a good balance.
Speaker 1: I love that you're a rule follower. It's a good
Speaker 1: it's really a good balance. Tatia, what about you? I
Speaker 1: was really nervous, so I think I was a little
Speaker 1: more reserved. I wish I would have like just let me, yeah,
Speaker 1: let lease let my personality show a little bit earlier
Speaker 1: on as opposed to like, I mean, you saw me
Speaker 1: sit in chocolate, you saw me be like silly towards
Speaker 1: the end, like that's just Tasia, that's like a Tatia
Speaker 1: moment for you. But I just wish I would have
Speaker 1: let loose a little bit because I was so nervous.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what I was saying to Colton
Speaker 1: when I was talking to him. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it's like regret that, Like I wish I would
Speaker 1: have opened up a little more. And I think the
Speaker 1: moral of it all is when it comes to things
Speaker 1: we wish we would have known before going on the show,
Speaker 1: Like I think that you should get it for of
Speaker 1: a camera. It's just about being practice talking or seeing
Speaker 1: a camera follow you and be there. I think that
Speaker 1: you should just try to let go and be yourself
Speaker 1: and not try to over anticipate you know what they may,
Speaker 1: they may do, you know, just be you do because
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day you can say
Speaker 1: you can rest assure at least I gave them all
Speaker 1: and I was myself no matter when you go home, right,
Speaker 1: unless it's more unless you know the better you might be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you might fit. Yeah, you're playing a game based on
Speaker 1: what you think is going to happen. Too many things
Speaker 1: in your head and don't judge anyone either yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know. It's very easy to be in the house
Speaker 1: and be like that person looks like an idiot or
Speaker 1: that person sounds like an idiot, and then you start
Speaker 1: you judge other people, you judge yourself, you're in your head.
Speaker 1: It's too much. It's just go out there and chill
Speaker 1: the best way you can. Thank you, guys so much
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