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Speaker 2: And that is Look, it's an acting award granted by

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Speaker 1: Margaret Qualley's name. What she does in this movie, both

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Speaker 1: The tone is God. The tone is like B movie.

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Speaker 1: You were like, I already love this because it's just

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Speaker 1: At her as someone who clearly is not I'm not

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Speaker 2: Come on, someone said for I'm not saying come on you,

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Speaker 2: Sounds like you know, you know what to speak of.

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Speaker 2: Another Best Actress potential nominee, Mikey Madison really put her

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love. I don't know if we've gotten into Honora,

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Speaker 1: Mikey Madison and no Noora like can I say doctor

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Speaker 1: Best Actress? Wild wild, Cynthia, Come on, Cynthia, but so

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been the same. Cynthia gave us such

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Speaker 1: Mikey Madison, Cynthia Arrivo, Carlo Sofia Gascon and Nicole and

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Speaker 1: totally in the dark about what this movie is, it's

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Speaker 1: about Elizabeth Sparkle, who's an actress who turns fifty, and

432
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Speaker 1: she has like a Jane fond of workout class, Like

433
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Speaker 1: that's like her gig. Now you get the sense that

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Speaker 1: this is what she's had to do because the Hollywood

435
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Speaker 1: industry has done what it's done to women. And she's

436
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Speaker 1: now too old. So she's finishing one of her classes

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Speaker 1: and it's her birthday and she gets the word without

438
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Speaker 1: saying too much, that because she's old, they're going to

439
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Speaker 1: fire her, and she replaced her with someone younger. So

440
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Speaker 1: on the way home, she gets into a car accident.

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Speaker 1: She goes to the hospital and this like young nurse

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Speaker 1: says to her, like he passes on this thing called

443
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Speaker 1: the substance. And the substance is something that you can

444
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Speaker 1: take to create, for lack of a better word, a younger,

445
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Speaker 1: better version of yourself.

446
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Speaker 2: And there are stricts parameters in which you can alternate

447
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Speaker 2: between your current self and this younger self.

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Speaker 1: With the caveat being remember you are one being like

449
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Speaker 1: while new matter is created, and then you can occupy

450
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Speaker 1: that new, younger, more beautiful matter. Yeah, you have to

451
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Speaker 1: always remember that you are one being in one consciousness.

452
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Speaker 1: So it's a really interesting exploration of what happens when

453
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Speaker 1: you hate yourself so much that you actually start It's

454
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Speaker 1: just she loses grip on what's on the rules because

455
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Speaker 1: she so enjoys being the Margaret quality version of herself,

456
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Speaker 1: and it does there there is like this weird binary

457
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Speaker 1: created between them, but they keep being reminded they are

458
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Speaker 1: one person. So it's actually this weird like also kind

459
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Speaker 1: of an examination of like mental illness and true dysmorphia. Yeah,

460
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Speaker 1: the movie's doing a lot. Well, the movie's doing a lot.

461
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Speaker 2: And then like anytime she faces a consequence, it is

462
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Speaker 2: so good at leaving you in the audience a little

463
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Speaker 2: bit unsure, I think in a purely intentional way, not

464
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Speaker 2: in like a plot holy way. It's like you don't

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Speaker 2: know whether it's a scientific consequence or if it's something

466
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Speaker 2: that is like nefariously being carried out by like whoever

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Speaker 2: is behind that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. It doesn't have to see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think everyone's seen him except us really.

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Speaker 1: But honestly though, like I never know, because well you

471
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Speaker 1: can I guess stream it now on movie. And I

472
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Speaker 1: had no idea that Bowen was a movie lover.

473
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Speaker 2: Well, Matt finds out that I subscribed to a movie,

474
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Speaker 2: and then he goes, that's a list.

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Speaker 1: I go, I believe it's a list.

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Speaker 2: To be a movie you can be a movie subscriber

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Speaker 2: and feel a list.

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Speaker 1: I guess I bought. I bought the film on Apple iTunes.

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Speaker 2: That seems a list to me as well. You think

480
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Speaker 2: it's a list. I think everyone readers publicist Katie's Finalists.

481
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Speaker 2: I need to see Matt Rogers in the Criterion closet.

482
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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I just watched Pam Anderson's which is

483
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Speaker 1: really so good. She does like talking smart.

484
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Speaker 2: She's so smart. She knows so much about film. Would

485
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: you pick up like umbrellas of Sherbourg or whatever?

486
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Speaker 1: She's picked out the film Wanda, which is like a

487
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Speaker 1: big I've now seen the Last show Girl, which I'll

488
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Speaker 1: talk about in a second. I really want you to

489
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Speaker 1: see it too. I took my ass down to the

490
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Speaker 1: Angelica and which side of the theater are you on? Right?

491
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Speaker 1: Or laugh left?

492
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Speaker 2: Actually, that's my big I don't think so many things.

493
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Speaker 2: I love Angelica obviously, institution.

494
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Speaker 1: I do whatever I can to support it.

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Speaker 2: It's tough for me, it's tough for a lot of

496
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Speaker 2: us to be in a theater that has a middle aisle.

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Speaker 2: I just I just got to say center aisle is tough.

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Speaker 1: It is tough, you know, in terms of the layout.

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Speaker 1: I was not loving. It's okay, and it's okay.

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Speaker 2: This is not a knock on Angelicate, just to knock

501
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Speaker 2: on that seating arrangement in theaters.

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Speaker 1: The world's over. They could never make me hate Angelic.

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Speaker 1: They can never make me hand they try, because the

504
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Speaker 1: seats do need a little bit of a sprucing, and

505
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: that bathroom can use a little bit of a spruce.

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Speaker 1: I daren't even go it. Oh but I just shipped

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Speaker 1: myself front of the aisle girl space.

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Speaker 3: No one's is it?

509
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Speaker 1: But I saw so I saw the last show Girl,

510
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Speaker 1: And because I'm excited for Pam, I'm a Pam super fan.

511
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I saw Chicago Opening Night with Pam.

512
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Speaker 2: You saw Chicago Opening Night with Pam and you we

513
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: are both huge fans of the opening scene of Scary

514
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Speaker 2: Movie three.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, all of Pam's work.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, cow says moo dudde dude.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I mean I'm a Pam Pam and party. Sorry,

518
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Speaker 1: let's keep going. Not mentioning her, not mentioning that when

519
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Speaker 1: I just mentioned her, what we need is her take

520
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: on the Fires and.

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00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: Substance or Last show Girl, So Substance still, I mean, like,

522
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Speaker 2: I it's our favorite movie.

523
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Speaker 1: I knew I liked Margaret Kualley. You want to know

524
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: why because have you seen her Kenzo ad? Yes, she

525
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: dances for a commercial for Kenzo which she's everything. And

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00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: you know she because I'm now a Bleach I'm a

527
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: Bleacher super fan. She's in the music video for Tiny

528
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: Moves by Bleachers, and it's just like just watching her

529
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: be a stunning dancer and I have to imagine like

530
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Speaker 1: all that dance background went into her performance here, just

531
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: so funny, so smart, so committed, so and to me,

532
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Speaker 1: this is what blows me away about the Substance and

533
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Speaker 1: their performances in the Substance. Can you just imagine getting

534
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: that script and reading it and being like, you know what, yeah,

535
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: three months of this for sure, I get it. I

536
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Speaker 1: see it, and I'm willing to commit to this. Despite

537
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: the fact that that could have been a huge disaster.

538
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: Well she's had. She says that she had the same

539
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: feeling reading that scripture she did reading Ghosts, where she

540
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: was like, this might not work. This probably won't work.

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Speaker 2: It starts as one thing, it goes into it's like

542
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: they pitched her ghost and it was like, could read

543
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Speaker 2: goofy it's a it's a.

544
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: Rom com thrill. It's a romantic thriller. Yeah, like super

545
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Speaker 1: ghost stories to multi genre.

546
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Speaker 2: In which the substances as well just the distillation of

547
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: the tone of this movie is all in the billboard

548
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Speaker 2: for the.

549
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Big New Year's Eve show. Oh God, Like ma I was.

550
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: In tears just being like, this is so perfectly executed. Yeah,

551
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: like this billboard of Margaret of Sue in this stupid

552
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: fucking dress head askew the New Year's Eve Show tomorrow

553
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: nine pm, which implies that they put that billboard up

554
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: for one day the day before, on December thirtieth, and

555
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: then the next day new billboard tonight to night.

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Speaker 1: By the way, these billboards cost, like that location of

557
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: the billboard that they're insinuating is easily easily And it's

558
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: just so funny because you could choose to watch this

559
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: movie and be like, wait, what it's getting screenplay honors,

560
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: like this movie is goofy can because the tone is

561
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: so perfect from the second it starts to the end

562
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: and it's totally original. It's unlike anything.

563
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Speaker 2: That's what I said out loud to you at one

564
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Speaker 2: point during the movie where I was just like, I've

565
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: never seen anything like this, and what a fucking statement

566
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: that is to say, you know who, I'm not about me,

567
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Speaker 2: understanding about like us in film No.

568
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent, you know, I spent like probably two

569
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Speaker 1: and a half minutes of my Seth Myers and of

570
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: you're talking about yes, Oh, by the way, it was

571
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Speaker 1: the first thing I said. I was like, okay, so

572
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: he was like golden globes thoughts. I was like, yeah,

573
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: we gotta win.

574
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Speaker 3: We gotta win.

575
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: Demi Moore and not like period point blank.

576
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Speaker 2: You were so great on Seth. By the way, my

577
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: two act legend, by the way, can we just they.

578
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Did give me two? I felt really excited about that.

579
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Speaker 2: You're getting many more acts, because I guess who's excited

580
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: about your Oh, Seth Myers. Oh.

581
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Speaker 1: I just saw him for the shoot and he was like,

582
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Speaker 1: I don't think people know about that yet. Okay, then well,

583
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: like we can blur that out. But there's something exciting coming.

584
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Speaker 2: Very people are going to be very happy, and I'm

585
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Speaker 2: excited about this is this is what the world needs

586
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Speaker 2: now is love, sweet love.

587
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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what's actually driving me. Nut's just to

588
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: go into some personal stuff. So I still have the blonde.

589
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, over the blonde. I want to be I

590
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Speaker 1: want to I want to be brunette again. Buzz. But

591
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Speaker 1: I have to. I have to keep my hair growing

592
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Speaker 1: out for something, for something. And so now I'm like,

593
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Speaker 1: do I go somewhere in New York and have them

594
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Speaker 1: dye my hair brown? No? Truly not.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I just wait till until you finish the thing

596
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: because I need to.

597
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: Have brown hair and long hair in the thing. I yeah,

598
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: get a colored hair, get a color that could be interesting, can.

599
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: Be so interesting, or you or you get it shorn

600
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Speaker 2: off now and then have a grow out.

601
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Speaker 1: Remember in college when I would do.

602
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Speaker 2: Black I remember the black air.

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Speaker 1: I don't like that.

604
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with my sister and say I

605
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: was not a huge fan, but it was it was

606
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: right for the time because you were once again deeply

607
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Speaker 2: committed to a role.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I won't dye my hair black. I think it's

609
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: just because you have black hair and jealous you don't

610
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Speaker 1: want me to take your.

611
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Speaker 2: Crowd doesn't go with your skin tone.

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Speaker 1: You are a nasty You're a nasty, a lister and rude.

613
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: You are a nasty rude and you have your movie

614
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: subscription and you think you're all bad a movie.

615
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: You need to get on Criterion channel.

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Speaker 1: I feel like i'd get in the Yeah, I do

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Speaker 1: need to get on Criterion channel. If I went in

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Speaker 1: the closet, I'd be adrift. You would not I have

619
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Speaker 1: no film.

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Speaker 2: Perfect Blue, Yeah, perfect the film.

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Speaker 1: It's perfect Blue. Criteria. It is not Criterion. Well that's what.

622
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Speaker 2: They don't have any Satoshi Cone in Criterion, which is

623
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Speaker 2: actually kind of crazy. They should they Well, Criterion, we

624
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: know you're listening. We know you're listening.

625
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: We love you. We're fans. By the way.

626
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I had a little Criterion kick of

627
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Speaker 2: the holidays and I watched him take Out by Sean Baker. Ooh,

628
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: and it's so crazy how there is this consistency in

629
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Speaker 2: his vocabulary as of filming, and the way he is

630
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: so solid and confident in a realism on film, like

631
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Speaker 2: it's the same thing, it's the same preserved shit and

632
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: anora where you're like, there's just something about the dialogue

633
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: and the way it's written in the direction that he

634
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: finds it in the edit, probably because he's an editor. Yeah,

635
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: Like just Takeout is so if you can believe it's

636
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: similar to Honora. It's obviously like he has, you know,

637
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: working class people and all of his films, but it's

638
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: like the thing about Takeout is like it's this everyday

639
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: operational thing at a place that you that is kind

640
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 2: of invisible to society, right, like a strip club or

641
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: a Chinese restaurant. But it's like the goings on, the

642
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: day to day goings on in those places is a huge,

643
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: a hugely important thing that defines character and that the characters,

644
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: the protagonists in these films are driven by like a

645
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: survival instinct, you know. Like I'm sorry, I'm being so

646
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about it, but it's the same. It's at

647
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Speaker 2: the bookends of Sean Baker. It's like from Takeout to

648
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Speaker 2: a normm like God, just a filmmaker who is who

649
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: understands what he's there to do.

650
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's you call it the working class.

651
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: I would say it's His films are about the barely work.

652
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

653
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, all those films are about the barely surviving for us.

654
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: And I think that with Anora I was watching an

655
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: interview with Mikey actually was the it was the Hollywood

656
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Reporter Actress round Table, which was great this year, and

657
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: she was saying, because the whole table kind of turned

658
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: to her at one point, she's very shy, very and

659
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to see her performance in a Nora

660
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: and then see her in real life. Like she's just

661
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: a talent and I'm a big, big fan of hers.

662
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: But she was saying that it's a lot of improv

663
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: like like that he'll just run the camera, like for

664
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: example in that first sequence when he just ran the

665
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: camera right, and she just kind of had to create

666
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: ways in which her character would try to pick guys up.

667
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: And you know, if you've not seen Anora, I don't

668
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: know what we're talking about. It's Shahn Baker's film starring

669
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Speaker 1: Mikey Madison Getting a ton of Oscar butus. Some people

670
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: may even call it a front runner in many categories,

671
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: where she plays a stripper slash sex worker who gets

672
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: involved with this like you know, very wealthy Russian oligarch's

673
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: son and they have a whirlwind romance which is short

674
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: lived and then there's a very harsh reality to the situation.

675
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: But she she really like. I guess that's a thing

676
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: with Sewn Baker's movies. It's incredibly collaborative the performers and

677
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: him because he also gets he has casting credit on

678
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: his movies, he has edit credits, that all this stuff

679
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: in a way that I'd be interested to see how

680
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: that makes casting directors feel. But like, this guy is

681
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: totally in charge of what he's putting out there. And yeah,

682
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: it's interesting. It's like two different movies totally.

683
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah you're talking about like Anorras, Yes, Splititude totally. It

684
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: has that quality of like, but it still works in

685
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: like this traditional like three act structure. It's like, oh,

686
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 2: like it all it all falls into the same, Yeah,

687
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: like Mars or whatever.

688
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: It's like you have fun watching it, like all his movies,

689
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: and then you leave heartbroken.

690
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: Of course, did you see Red Rocket? I never got

691
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: to see Red Rock. Oh I got Simon Rex and

692
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: I shared a play one time.

693
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: Really, it's all I love Simon X. I love him.

694
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: He's so great. Three three Baby, and finally finally getting

695
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: the Flowers.

696
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: It deserves for being an important foundational text for comedy,

697
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: for film, for so many things.

698
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: Well you know, actually the last show Girl, which when

699
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: you see it you'll know what I mean. The Last

700
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: show Girl. By the way, it's to buy Gea Coppola,

701
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: Francis Porcoppola's granddaughter. The Last show Girl, I was sang

702
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: to Patrick Rogers, who I saw it with. The Last

703
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: show Girl was like a Sean Baker movie entirely through,

704
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: like a female gaze, and it was just an interesting

705
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: thing to see in quick succession. But I don't even

706
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: really know what my point is about that, but it's

707
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: just it's scary. Three yes, one story in Pam Anderson

708
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: and one yeah, and we're hopefully we'll see Anna Faris is.

709
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: Oh my god. By the way Hart goes out to her,

710
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: she she lost her home.

711
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think we are ready for the

712
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: Anna Faris like a song.

713
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: Oh I've been ready. I have been so ready that

714
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: I don't think there's I think there's few people that

715
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: are that big of a sweeten star to be totally

716
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: on the nose. I like, watch Lost in Translation again

717
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: on my way to Japan. Oh god, she's so great

718
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: in it, so fucking good. Yeah, you watch Lost in Translation.

719
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: I was like I have it on. I was like,

720
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: I have it downloaded on MyPad. I was like, it's

721
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: been a while. That is so funny, you know.

722
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: My My interesting thing that I would love to ask

723
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: Cephakopele about is you can tell that that entire movie,

724
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: it's like it is a platonic thing and then it

725
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: becomes a little bit romantic at the end. For anyone

726
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: who wasn' seeing Lost in translation, I'm sorry I spoiled,

727
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: but it's like I wonder if that was the thing

728
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: that like Sophia kind of got like pressured into doing,

729
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: or if that was a nartistic.

730
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: Choice, improvise choice. They like the kiss? Do you think

731
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it anyway, It's.

732
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: Very like it's not like a gross kiss, but it's

733
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: just like it's a kiss and it's like romantic and

734
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: maybe it isn't maybe it is a platonic kiss because

735
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: those exist, but like anyway, I don't know. I just like,

736
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: I just think that movie is so great when when

737
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: it's just purely through the lens of like these are

738
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: two lost people who find each other and their company

739
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: is all they need and it doesn't have to be

740
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: sexual or romantic or anything.

741
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Anyway.

742
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: I remember that that was SCARLETTJ. Mahnsson's moment stepping into

743
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: like an ala.

744
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: Because she was I remember she got like two Golden

745
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: Globe nominations, which, by the way, congrats to sebastianst who

746
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: finally got his flowers, and thank god, because I'm proud

747
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: of him and he's working hard and he's just what

748
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: a guy. He's just our favorite and I was really

749
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: really really happy for him that he got something because again,

750
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: and what he said is true. He's like when his speech,

751
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: he was like, we can't be afraid of this type

752
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: of we can't be afraid to make art and talk

753
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: about art because that's like a bad sign. We're in

754
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: bad dire streets. And we start to be like, well,

755
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: you can't say this, can't say that. I mean already

756
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: you see the normalizing ms Underwood. Oh, like, it's just interesting.

757
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: It's just interesting you think about it. I'm sarking a

758
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: huge cigarette that's eight feet long. Do you have anything

759
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: else say about the substance other than it is the

760
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: best movie of all time?

761
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: It really, it's one of my favorites. It really is

762
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: one of my favorites.

763
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: And it's so gross, you guys.

764
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: It's disgusting, which is the whole point. But am I crazy,

765
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: Like obviously, it's there's so many visual references to the shining.

766
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think you're crazy at all. In fact,

767
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: I didn't pick up on them until you were pointing

768
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: them out throughout the film. I mean, like the pattern

769
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: on the carpet, the bat, like her coming out in

770
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: that bathroom.

771
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally looking like the old woman.

772
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: Oh, the prosthetics in this first of all, hair and makeup, Oscar.

773
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: Oh please, dude, there's no question, I think honestly. Sound, oh,

774
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: the set, the sound please, this has to be to

775
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: end the script and both of them like, it's crazy

776
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: to me, and tell me if you feel the same.

777
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: To watch that movie and be like, this is an

778
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: Oscar contender is exciting, so insane.

779
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: Because I was talking to Sath about this, it's like,

780
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: I love that it's not an Oscar bait movie.

781
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

782
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: No, that's the thing too. I love is that not

783
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: one person involved picked that script up and said, you know,

784
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna get me an Oscar now. And again, Rubric,

785
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: could anyone else have done it better? There's something very

786
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: special about to me, in particular taking it on and

787
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: let's just speak about her for one second. And I

788
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: told you when the sequence started, which was her going

789
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: back to the mirror. There's a sequence where she she

790
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: in the middle of the substance process, has like second

791
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: thoughts and she is preparing for a date with this

792
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: guy that she meets, and she just keeps going back

793
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: to the mirror because she's so insecure and hates herself

794
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: so much. The specific rage and hatred with which she

795
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: looks at herself in the mirror, and that the really

796
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: quiet performance because she's not in dialogue with anyone, no,

797
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: but she carries this whole thing like you don't emotionally

798
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: miss a second of it.

799
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: It's purely about the interiority of this hatred that you have.

800
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah with her, Yeah, that you're just like And also

801
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: even just the way like to me's very long dark hair,

802
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: Like there's something like really specific and dark about every

803
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: frame of the movie. And she's the perfect center for

804
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: it because of her lived experience, yes, that she brings

805
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: in her acting, but also just like it just feels

806
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: like this was the role she was born to, Yeah,

807
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: and the experiences that she's had like uniquely prepare her

808
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: to take on this role. And then the casting of

809
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: Margaret Quality too is like you'd fully believe that's her

810
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: younger double, you believe that they occupy that same thing.

811
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: And it's just great. It's just a great triumph all

812
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: the way around, and the directing and the specificity of

813
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: the shots.

814
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's what I'm saying, Like all these trunning references.

815
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: You could not have asked for a better modernization of

816
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: Dorian Gray it is. It even ups the any of

817
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: that with the final act of the film, and it's like, oh,

818
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: well that is the most perfect choice to have the

819
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: story go there and then just show it on film. Yeah,

820
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: I love it. I love that movie.

821
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Thematically too, so interesting, Like the substance really speaks to

822
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: like this new revival of Sunset Boulevard, which and then

823
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: I seeing Last Showgirl it speaks to that, like just a.

824
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: Lot of expl you you brought up baby Jane. It's like, oh,

825
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: it's it's all of these things. Yeah, And also I

826
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: think people might bock.

827
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: At the fact that it was like and also there's

828
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: like tons of reasons tu bac whenever, like the Golden

829
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: Globes word. However, the categorization goes in terms of the

830
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: awards stuff, like you know, are these actual supporting actors like,

831
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: is this really a comedy, et cetera. This is an

832
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: amazing comedy. It's a great It is a total satire

833
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: on exactly where we're at in the culture right now

834
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: in the way that and and that's another thing too,

835
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: is it's like, I'm sure it helps to be a

836
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: woman of a certain age to really understand this, but

837
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: we all know what it's like to look at ourselves

838
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: and hate like what we see or like Because that's

839
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: another thing to me talks a lot about in the

840
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: press that she does for the movie is it's like

841
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: so much of what rang true to her was the

842
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: violence we do to ourselves. It's less about the messaging

843
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: from the media and stuff and more about how we

844
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: accept it, believe and act on those things. And that

845
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: is I think what I recognized is like, yeah, it.

846
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Is society is the extent, but it's not. It's you

847
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: would be irresponsible to say that it's just that.

848
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: No, it's like a red flag from society. But then

849
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: like you have to take ownership over what you are

850
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: doing and being like, Okay, this is good for me,

851
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: this is bad for me. I can tell the difference,

852
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: but sometimes you just fall too far. It's it's sad.

853
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean, even the last sequence of the movie is

854
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: incredibly over the top. It's heartbreaking. I know, like there's

855
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: just specifically one moment where there's like a little bit

856
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: of dialogue from the character and it's sad. It's heartbreaking.

857
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: And then the last image of the movie is deeply

858
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: heartbreaking but also so funny and genius. It's so funny.

859
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we said, we said, Oscar Award, Academy

860
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: Award speaking. Now, how are we gonna get Salt Lake

861
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: City this season? In Emmy? It needs it needs something

862
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: of Bell. Yeah, no Bell, Culture Award, the way that

863
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: you can expect to see the house ris of Salt

864
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: Lake City back at the Cultural Awards. This is this

865
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: is part Feelings, two seasons in a row of tens.

866
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Tens, tens, tens tens.

867
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: In television, the Brook actually was emotional in her reatch

868
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: Did you watch her recap yet?

869
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know, But you know, we love Brook Ashley.

870
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: First of all, Meredith marks for saying lies and spraying lies.

871
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: You disgust me. I can't believe I had you in

872
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: my home, my home, my home. Mary get her married.

873
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: We haven't we it's been a several weeks, so we

874
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: haven't been able to really impart. If you're if you're

875
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: still not watching the House, I just all like saying,

876
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: you're not doing life right.

877
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: You're not doing life. The way I'm encouraging Matt to

878
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: let go of this self identification is not being a

879
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: horror fan.

880
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: If you're not a.

881
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: Bravo person, if you've identified as I'm not a Bravo person,

882
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: you have permission to let that go. You are missing

883
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: out on something truly special, can't you say?

884
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: I would say bo? I would say, I think that again,

885
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: like the way that they operate as a cast. Also,

886
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: like put some respect on Brittany's name. Really is that crazy?

887
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: Man?

888
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean I was sending a video because I just

889
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: love the safe placement of all of her anger and

890
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: bring you guys, this is ridiculous. He's a singer I've

891
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: never taped in my life. I've in shocked.

892
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean, her must return, she must return, and she

893
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: she has earned her keep. Absolutely.

894
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, how bored were we last night watching Potomac? Oh?

895
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: It is?

896
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: It's started off strong and now it's just boring and

897
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 2: can we say sad and tragic? We wish Karen Hugar

898
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: the best. This something is not timing out correctly if

899
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: she has allegedly been in rehab for weeks but also

900
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 2: was seen in Kathy Hilton's holiday party and she's missing

901
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: the reunion anyway, that we're getting into, brast we're getting in.

902
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: We just wish Karen the best, and because clearly there's

903
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: not everything is right there. And so I honestly, well,

904
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of the Housewives Universe, like and

905
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: you're in it, you know that you probably saw the

906
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: video of like her arrest after drunk driving, which was

907
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: not the first time. And I just I don't really

908
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: understand thinking you could plead not guilty based on what

909
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: was became readily available to the public. But again, that

910
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: just makes me feel like, clearly there's someone that really

911
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: needs a lot of help, and if she's getting the

912
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: help regardless of the situation.

913
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: And then that is good and our commentary does not

914
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: matter in that regard alway.

915
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: Is this the script for challengers? Yeah? Gag Okay, so

916
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: you're up to date on your w G A douce

917
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: and you are paid mine, well girl, and we expect

918
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: this this would be a fabulous to read. You want

919
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: to read it you want to borrow you actually do Yeah,

920
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: have you already read it or you're not gonna?

921
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: I have not read it, but it's been sitting there

922
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: too long, you know what?

923
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

924
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: Like you take it by the way. Not enough challengers

925
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: in the Oscar just course, Seth Myers, And I'm just

926
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of parroting what Seth Myers just said

927
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: to me an hour. We love him very well, love

928
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: him and he actually I love him. He will be

929
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: winning another.

930
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: He will be winning another culture award.

931
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: He said it.

932
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: He was saying, Josh o'cnnor, where's all the love for him?

933
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: Now? He's just gay baiting, he's crebating. How dare he?

934
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: And I I'm retracting everything queer, Seth Myers, how dare

935
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: you do this? You can't be all these things? And

936
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: then be like look Bowen Yang in the eye and say,

937
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: can't believe Josh O'Connor is not getting love? Like, how

938
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: dare you? You're trying? And you don't think we thing

939
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: on me? And you oh please, when I go to

940
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: that show, I'm thinking he's the best. He is the

941
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: best and effortless. And can I say when you go

942
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: on that show, you get like a special card for you.

943
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: Even penmanship.

944
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: That's exactly why I brought it up. The man's penmanship

945
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: is a late night host penmanship.

946
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 2: A masculine yet classic, stylish, stylish thriller thrill.

947
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: His penmanship is a stylish thriller.

948
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: Stylish that's actually really culture number eighty eight set.

949
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: Penmanship is a stylish thriller.

950
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: You know that man has letters that are being kept

951
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: in a book.

952
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: I hope they're published one I hope they publish letters

953
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: to Alexis God. You know, I just hope children. I

954
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: hope that his letters are published. And what more, what

955
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: more chic thing could you say about someone than that

956
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: one day, you hope their letters are published. He was

957
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: wearing a suit, I'm sure, and the entire room was like,

958
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: my god, we're so not used to him being in

959
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 1: a suit anymore, but god, he man. Man has never

960
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: looked better in a suit. No, it's actually a shame

961
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: for the world that he doesn't wear the suit every day.

962
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: But you know what, though, he also can rock a

963
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: crew neck sweater. It's not fair. I'm saying it's not

964
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: fair for us, as crew next sweater wearers. We can't compete,

965
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: But it's also not fair for us as an audience

966
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: because we don't see him. We want to toggle back

967
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: and forth. When he's wearing the suit, we want to

968
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: see him in the sweater, when he's wearing this sweater,

969
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: we want to see him in this suit. And it

970
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: all comes down to the truth, which is we just

971
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: want to see Seth Myers, period, bars bars. So was

972
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: it just you and him today doing a photo show? No,

973
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: it was many members.

974
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: Of me, the great Seth Myers, the Great Kate McKinnon,

975
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: the Great Leslie Jones, the Great Keenan Thompson, and the

976
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: great Molly Shannon.

977
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: Wow.

978
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: It's funny, fun, good fun group. Nice collection. Yeah, how's Molly?

979
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: Molly's so oh? She was asking about you, Molly. I

980
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: mean we were comparing notes about Japan or Japan trips.

981
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: She went with her family.

982
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: She went a few years ago, but it's her favorite place.

983
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: And my the thing I have trouble with is just

984
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: remembering names in Japan especially, and she was just able

985
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: to just rattle them off the top of her head.

986
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, that is a woman who knows so cute.

987
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 2: She goes, you know, the hotels I booked fucking dot

988
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: com like she was.

989
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: Just booking dot com. I went on, there, Oh, how's

990
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: how is he so good?

991
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 4: Good?

992
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: Literally, she is so classic.

993
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: How is your mother?

994
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: That's good that you and your mother. It's great, it's

995
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: really good, really good. Well, it's great that you guys

996
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: are class. It really is. Oh really, isn't that funny?

997
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: Isn't that funny? I said to him. I was like,

998
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: I think that's so funny. That's so funny. Wait, I

999
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, that looks so good in a suit.

1000
00:50:53,560 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna text her. Not a single word you telling

1001
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: us about your Japan trip. Jesus Christ. See, there were

1002
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: so many other things, and this is truly a comment

1003
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: on the speed of culture moving by us at such

1004
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: a pace. Please talk about your trip jap No, tell

1005
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: them everything you need to know because you were having

1006
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: such a fabulous time. I'm so happy.

1007
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: Was from the moment I got onto the Pokemon themed plane, Matt.

1008
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: Say, it bursts open.

1009
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: The seal on my. My whole life is led up

1010
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: to that trip.

1011
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: Not really the kind of person that's like, oh my god,

1012
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: let me take a picture of the little accouterments on

1013
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: the plane. But I was like, you were taking a

1014
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: photo of every knickknack. That flight looked so cute and gorgeous.

1015
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: It was a cute, gorgeous flight, some of the best

1016
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: Foodioi kawaii.

1017
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1018
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: Super cool? Super cute? I mean super cute, and well,

1019
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, you go, you go to Japan and I'm like,

1020
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: I get why Gwen did that? How could you not

1021
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: be obsessed with that? She was inspired.

1022
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 2: You walk through Harrazuku and you're like, I'm doing an album,

1023
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: but I'm doing an album about I'm doing a.

1024
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: Big pop record about this, Like that song is a plus?

1025
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just so.

1026
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: What were the highlights? The highlights? I mean, it's it's

1027
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: tough to cut it together.

1028
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: Sean Baker.

1029
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: I am not.

1030
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: I cannot edit this down, but it is. It was

1031
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: literally like the moment.

1032
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: I got there, I get a text from Eric Knumb, wonderful,

1033
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: wonderful artist person. He's just like, oh my god, you're

1034
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: in Tokyo, like Otsgo Okotsko, the legend form here. Otsogo

1035
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: and Ronnie Chang are here. We're doing karaoke tonight, come

1036
00:52:59,320 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: and meet us.

1037
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1038
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: We go to Shinjuku, Me and my friend Jake, who's

1039
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: there shout out to Jake. If you're in Williamsburg, if

1040
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: you need a nice short men's haircut. The guy's boat.

1041
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 2: He's busy, but kiju check out a salon. Hands down

1042
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 2: the best vibe in Williamsburg of any place. Did karaoke

1043
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: with them? A little eleven year old boy was that?

1044
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: Ronnie Cheg's eleven year old nephew was there. This boy

1045
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: who freaked out when he saw Eric Nam because he

1046
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: loves K pop. He loves Eric Nahm freaked out. We

1047
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: all sang there was a full back line. Monica. Shout

1048
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: out to Monica. Our friend Monica took us to a

1049
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: pro wrestling match, not a sumo match, a pro wrestling

1050
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: match in the Tokyo Dome, which is also where Taylor

1051
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: Arrow's tour. And the entire time I was thinking Taylor

1052
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: was just there there, I mean all of it, just

1053
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: going to just seeing the sights of the shopping, Oh

1054
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: Joshua at the Orally store. We got a beautiful experience there.

1055
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 2: I mean the food. It's like France, It's like they

1056
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: hold in highest regard their culture, like in terms of

1057
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: like the film and the television, like think about like

1058
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: just think about like Japanese film and like, like the

1059
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: caliber of that, the food, the hospitality, the fashion, it's

1060
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: all very French. It's like they're they're likes the French

1061
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: and that they like really care about this shit and

1062
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: making sure it's delightful.

1063
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: And oh, we have to go, we have to go.

1064
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: We're going for my birthday period and we're going, and

1065
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: you know what, And I was sad about that. I

1066
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: that I canceled my last minute Disney Sea trip because

1067
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: it just there just wasn't enough time and it was

1068
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 2: just stressful. It was like the busiest domestic travel time

1069
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: in Japan is New Year's Week because everyone has work off.

1070
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: But I was like, no, this is better because the.

1071
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: First time I go to Disney Cea in Disneyland and

1072
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: Universal Studios ASAKA will be with my sister. Let's block

1073
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: out like a lot joey time. Yeah. I was gonna say,

1074
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: in the beginning of remember or.

1075
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: End of October, I don't need to do Halloween in

1076
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 2: the States.

1077
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: Girl who does ooh, none of you do? None of

1078
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: you do? Think about it. When they keep saying Christmas

1079
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: gets longer, I said, yeah, I hope it eats Halloween

1080
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: right up that way. I can get started earlier, make

1081
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: more coin, make even more coin than I ever have.

1082
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm coming for you coming September, the month of August.

1083
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: Slipt away like a bottle of wine because I'm drinking it.

1084
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: The prints of Christmas, Bitch.

1085
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: We haven't reflected. We have reflected on post prints of

1086
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: Christmas store, haven't we?

1087
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: Actually? Well, First, I want to say it was the

1088
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: best it ever was. And I know I said this

1089
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: at the end, and I was really looking forward at

1090
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: the end. It was kind of it wasn't even bittersweet

1091
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: to end it because I was like, we fucking nailed it.

1092
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm so in love with my band and those boys, Henry, Ethan,

1093
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: Jordan and Derek, love them the best time. If I'm

1094
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: already booking for next year, here we go. Truly, I

1095
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: will figure out ways to make it even better next year. Wow,

1096
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: it's hard to top hard to topo like me in

1097
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: my late twenties. Yeah, I mean that's true. But anyway, like, okay,

1098
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: speaking of it wasn't hard to tap me at all

1099
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: in Miami, even after my accident. I haven't talked about

1100
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: this on the pod.

1101
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: You were throwing neck after the accident.

1102
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: Babe, So I finished the tour, I go home for

1103
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 1: a few days to Long Island to be with the folks. Yes,

1104
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,479
Speaker 1: And then I go to Miami thinking, actually, like we've

1105
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: planned it enough where it can be like kind of

1106
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: a low key Miami trip. Get there. No one realized

1107
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: it was gay Circuit week. So I go that night

1108
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: to a party. I'm not gonna say where. I'm not

1109
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: gonna say what party because I don't want to cause

1110
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: any trouble. Oh oh, there were wet stairs. I absolutely

1111
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: bit itch on some stairs, landed on my tailbone. I

1112
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: know secondhand. You guys are probably win sing and in

1113
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: pain hearing me talk about this. Yeah, it was bad,

1114
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: Bruce tailbone. At the very least, it honestly may be broken. No,

1115
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: because it's actually been two weeks now. Oh yeah, Matt,

1116
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: two weeks now, almost to the day. Yeah almost, Michael, No, yesterday.

1117
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: It was two weeks when it happened, and it's still

1118
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: Actually I worked out for the very first time today

1119
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: at Berry's, just to see what I was capable of.

1120
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: Can't do abs or anything where you use like that

1121
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: part of your body as like a folkrum, because it's

1122
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: it's still very painful, And can I.

1123
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: Ask you did not see a professional, not yet, because

1124
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: that's what Michael Fisher was asking me this morning. He

1125
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: was like, but did Matt. Has Matt gone to see someone?

1126
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know.

1127
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: So it is getting better. It is getting better, but

1128
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: the thing is with a tailbone thing. And first of all,

1129
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: I know, I love you readers and medical professionals that

1130
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: are going to reach out. I really am okay. It's

1131
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: just discomfort. Like there's nothing you can really do for

1132
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: a tailbone bruise or even break. You kind of just

1133
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: have to wait it out. And I'm okay. It's just

1134
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to sit or lay down on your back, which

1135
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: is like kind of your favorite activity, really, my favorite

1136
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: stuff to do. After I've like completed the tour and

1137
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: New Year's I got back and I was just like,

1138
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: oh god. And so it's been a very uncomfortable couple

1139
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: of weeks. But I will say it did not stop

1140
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: me from getting it in.

1141
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I'm so happy for you.

1142
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: I am too. When there's a will and there was

1143
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: a big way, and there was a big way. I

1144
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: I've been like another horny era. Great, are you maybe

1145
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: expanded like it's been presented oh, like opportunities have presented

1146
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: themselves in New York.

1147
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, And I'm like.

1148
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could take it or leave it. I could

1149
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: take it or I shouldn't. That's actually powerful. I know.

1150
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: I wish I was more enthusiastic about it.

1151
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm like that about it. But it's the holidays, you know.

1152
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I feel like I can like I mean,

1153
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: this is such toxic thinking, but I'm like, give me

1154
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 2: another month to like get myself right, just in terms

1155
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: of like I'm still bouncing back from the holidays and

1156
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: this trip honestly where I'm like, let me actually not

1157
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: be a dog, you know what I mean, because.

1158
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: You were just doing a lot of scheduled stuff. I

1159
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: honestly feel like the second dating becomes like, you know,

1160
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of activities or like things on the schedule,

1161
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: like let's pull it back. Who even knows where they're at? Totally,

1162
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm at. I thought I was

1163
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: last year. All throughout the year, I was like, oh,

1164
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: I really want a boyfriend again. I want a boyfriend again.

1165
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, maybe you don't, like maybe that

1166
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: was just something you were telling yourself.

1167
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know I'm still in husband search, but.

1168
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: If he shows up, I would love that. But you

1169
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: can't just marry anybody. You can't think you can. But wait,

1170
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: I think I had a dream the other night that

1171
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: I got married. Really yeah, I had like a dream

1172
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: that I got full on marry or was it amazing

1173
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: or was it like whoa No? The whole time I

1174
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: was like, wait, what why did I do that? Yeah,

1175
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: to a woman?

1176
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 2: Maybe, Oh that's fun.

1177
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: Definitely recently, this is now coming to my mind. There

1178
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: was definitely a dream recently where I got married to

1179
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: a woman.

1180
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1181
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was like a whole thing of like, well,

1182
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: how are we going to make this work? You'll make

1183
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: it work, I guess.

1184
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 3: All right.

1185
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: Is there anything else before we get into I mean

1186
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: literally there are other things? But traders? Oh? Loving the traders?

1187
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: I will say I did not. So we had heard

1188
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: a false spoiler.

1189
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: We heard a false spoiler, and I think it was

1190
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: falsely relayed by the person.

1191
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: Let's just say. Let's just say we had heard a

1192
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: false spoiler at the Culture Awards that and we won't

1193
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: say who relayed the message, but we had heard a

1194
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: false spoiler that Bob the Drag Queen was out first.

1195
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: It's definitely not true and that is certainly not true

1196
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: and not even out first of all. Okay, spoiler aler

1197
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: for the Traders. Bob the Drag Queen is one of

1198
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: the Traders, Yes, and I love it as a choice. Yes.

1199
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't know Danielle from Big Brother too much. I

1200
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: know a lot about Carolyn of course, and obviously Rob

1201
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: Mariano Boston. Rob is a full reality television legend. I

1202
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: think the cast actually is better overall this year than

1203
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: last year. Oh sure, because it feels like they're playing

1204
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: the game and less like on a reality shit. Yeah, yeah, yes,

1205
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: you know.

1206
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: I think there is what a fun opportunity for a

1207
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: course correction in terms of like a collective like this

1208
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: cast is decided. Maybe they were given a note or something,

1209
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: but like really play the game this time and don't

1210
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: weren't necessarily worry about like the drama.

1211
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: Right of it. Yeah, and I think that that is

1212
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: to this season's benefit. Yeah, who are you rooting for?

1213
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: Rooting for Bob? We love Bob, so you're rooting for

1214
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: the Traders.

1215
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm reading for the Traders because and I love Carolyn

1216
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: so much, and I think Carolyn is playing it right.

1217
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: Carolyn is doing You're right. Danielle and Bob, I mean

1218
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: they're both doing too much.

1219
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: They're doing too much, but which we still root for them.

1220
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: Who else, Chrischelle. We love seeing Rischelle on to win

1221
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: the show. Oh so that's what you're rooting for. You're

1222
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: you're rooting for the face pal, So.

1223
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for her. Yeah. And of course Dolors Cotanna

1224
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: my number one, You're number.

1225
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 2: One, and I love Dolores here as well.

1226
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: Dolores.

1227
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: I just I just want to put out there that

1228
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: based on this them video that Matt and I did,

1229
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: it made it seem like I was an anti Dolores.

1230
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: No.

1231
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: No, I think you were just surprised.

1232
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: I was just surprised that your number one housewife was Dolores,

1233
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: And I said Dolores, and then maybe that made her

1234
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: think that or people think that I don't like her.

1235
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: I think you were surprised to hear me say that

1236
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: Dolores Cantania was my favorite housewife of all time, which

1237
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: I can understand because I don't think I'm like always

1238
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: spouting out about Dolores because and I think it's precisely

1239
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: why she's my number one. Is because she very on television.

1240
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: She reminds me of all my mom's friends.

1241
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 2: Oh that's so beautiful. But how what about this statement

1242
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: Meredith Marks because I think, especially after last week on

1243
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: Salt Lake, one of the best housewives.

1244
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: Of there's enough.

1245
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 2: There's no question she's had enough seasons under about now

1246
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: five where she's done consistently great work.

1247
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: Where I go, she is one of the altar. She's

1248
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: done iconic things in every season. Yep, she's done iconic

1249
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: things in every season. And again we say this with

1250
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: equal love for friend of the Pod Angie Katsanevas and

1251
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: Heather Gay and Whitney.

1252
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 2: Rose and I just I love these women. These I

1253
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: will miss these women so much. It's not over yet,

1254
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: but I'm counting it to. It's like, we've got finale

1255
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: this week, and then we've got, you know, three reunions.

1256
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: I heard.

1257
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: But here's the thing I heard. We have a phenomenal

1258
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: finale and a really really really Andy said stellar reunion.

1259
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: I love it.

1260
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: And they looked good. They looked great. I love the

1261
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: pink in the red. I do hope Miami comes back

1262
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: with the force. I need them, I need to have this.

1263
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: It's the sphere of empty. I need to had that

1264
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: empty filled up once they once Salt Lake leaves, Meredith

1265
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: Mark's absolutely is making the is just on the on

1266
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: the Mount rush More.

1267
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: Oh certainly mean Meredith is just like.

1268
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: From episode one or two of I'm Disengaging, Like the

1269
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: hits keep coming. I think next Ultimate Girl's Trip, we

1270
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 2: do need to have Meredith Meredith like Meredith there and

1271
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: also Lisa has earned it too, like Lisa. First of

1272
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 2: you know what I noticed about Lisa Barlow, the character

1273
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: game that she plays like is so strong.

1274
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: She every single time she gives you exactly what you

1275
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: if you were to logically sit down and be like,

1276
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: what's Lisa Barlow gonna do? She does it every single time,

1277
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: and it's always satisfying. It just feels so deceived. Literally,

1278
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: the first scene of this is her sitting down to

1279
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: text everyone, I'm really thinking about last night and how

1280
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: I was wronged, like not taking a kind of you

1281
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: over anything, not not that in that situation she particularly

1282
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: needed to, but like she goes, I know we're going

1283
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: to talk about it on the way to ATV, and

1284
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: then she explains she chose ATV because she googled luxury

1285
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: activities all that mattered to her was that it was

1286
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: a luxury activity, not that it made sense for them.

1287
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Speaker 1: I said, that's housewifery and at the same time to

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01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: have a diet of trash. I mean, I mean, this

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01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: is just it's it's a great couldn't write a better person. Yeah,

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: unless her name was Elizabeth Sparkle, unless her name was

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01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Sparkle, unless I thought you werena say Eliza, her

1292
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: name was Elizabeth what's her face? From Anatomy of Elizabeth Finlabeth?

1293
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: She too. You couldn't write Peacock give it up for Peacock.

1294
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: Do you wonder what else I watched? This is not

1295
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: on Peacock, but I watched you might love this. Actually,

1296
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: Jerry Springer, there's a two episodes that guy.

1297
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: Not not Jerry, but that producer who came in.

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Speaker 1: I mean that Actually it has major implications on the culture,

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01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: of course, like it made trash populist, you know what

1300
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean, or revealed the appetite that people would have

1301
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: for tabloidy sensational types of stuff.

1302
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: I mean, And it's like Roman colosseum sense, it's like

1303
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: primal It's this thing that like human beings will respond to.

1304
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that ultimately opens the door to Trump. And it

1305
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: all started with that kick a K episode. Insane And

1306
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: also I actually didn't know that one of the episodes

1307
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: led to a horrific murder, right, and keep watching it

1308
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: because by the end of the second episode you're like sad.

1309
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: But I do think there's something about that show that

1310
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: is like important and speaks to the culture and why

1311
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: we're at where we're at.

1312
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: I always viewed Springer as like, I mean, obviously, it's

1313
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: like a distressing troublesome I'll say the word even though

1314
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm slightly rolling my eyes, like problematic show, right, But

1315
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: I was always comforted. But like Jerry Springer knew how

1316
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: to like ring it in at the end and be

1317
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: like this was the message of this episode and take

1318
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: care of yourselves and each.

1319
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: Way that way to smooth it over at the end.

1320
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's but yeah.

1321
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: It's an important alleviating thing that he understood he had

1322
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: to do at the end of each other. And that

1323
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 2: was his catchphrase when he was a news anchor. Did

1324
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: not realize he was a professor, right, he was like

1325
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: a professor. He's a fascinating past well, he was read off.

1326
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: He was a mayor, he was the mayor.

1327
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: Of them of Oh my god, yeah, that of that

1328
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: town right anyway, I don't know either, but he was

1329
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: like he had a very interesting background. And then Cincinnati,

1330
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: I think, right or something like that. But then he

1331
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: became a host of a daytime show. And it's funny

1332
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: because I don't know if you've gotten to this point,

1333
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: but they show like the first or second episode of

1334
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: his show, and it was literally like so miltos, it

1335
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: was like what everyone else was doing, like Phildonna here,

1336
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: and they were like literally like number eighteen of nineteen

1337
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: shows in daytime and they were like, Okay, we need

1338
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: to drastically change this. Let's try this other flavor of programming.

1339
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: And then obviously the rest is history, but fascinating.

1340
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: But Springer was like a huge part of my day

1341
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: when I would like when I would like because we

1342
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: didn't have cable, as I say, and so huge part

1343
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: of my day growing up when I would like stay homesick, wow,

1344
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: because they would just play it back to.

1345
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: Bath and your parents didn't come in and were like

1346
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: turn this off by the time they got home. It

1347
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: was just right right at home.

1348
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: Or my sister, but like you know, we wouldn't be sick.

1349
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 2: At the same time, I would just like be sitting

1350
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: at home in the summers especially, I would just like

1351
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 2: be at home watching Springer and then it would go

1352
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 2: from Springer to Bob Ross, Like what a fucking wildlash.

1353
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: I could never get anything past my parents, like it was.

1354
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: And then randomly they gave me a TV in my

1355
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: room in high school, and I was like, okay, this

1356
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: is a wild swing left because I was just watching

1357
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: like remember when E. You don't remember because you didn't

1358
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: have cable, but E would show Howard Stern. Oh, this

1359
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: is like the era of Anna Nicole Smith and like

1360
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: Howard Stern like being on E. And so I watched

1361
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: so much garbage and trash, Like at the time, how

1362
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: I filed it away in my brain. Now I love

1363
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: Howard Sterne because he's rebranded. But it was just so funny.

1364
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: I was a sheltered person in terms, like they would

1365
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: never ever allow me to watch South Park. Oh, to

1366
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: the point where I started to be afraid of the show. Okay,

1367
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: like like it was like a trauma. It was like

1368
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: a trigger. Whenever it was on. My cousins would watch

1369
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: it and I'd be like.

1370
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: I can't watch this, so then were you were you ever?

1371
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 2: Have you ever been a south Park guy? I should

1372
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,839
Speaker 2: honestly get into it now. It's pretty because.

1373
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: I know the movie man, I love Trey Parker and

1374
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: Matt Stone.

1375
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: I know the movie is amazing. And also there's some

1376
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: episodes of south Park that are like, yeah, just hot,

1377
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 2: just pure brilliant comedy.

1378
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1379
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: But at the time, because it was like, you know,

1380
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 1: the things that they said, and like, of course the

1381
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: Kenny dying of it all, my parents were just like, no,

1382
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: you can't watch that. Do you've watched the the episode

1383
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: where they have the or at the bottom of the

1384
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: scram for how many times they say? Fuck?

1385
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 2: No, that's an amazing episode because it just it goes

1386
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,919
Speaker 2: somewhere brilliant. Did you ever watch the Vadgis Still episode?

1387
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 1: Oh, I've not seen any of it? Were Cartman?

1388
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 2: Cartman becomes like a better runner, he becomes you. This

1389
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: is south Park for me was I was in the

1390
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 2: third grade in Canada and me and my friends, I

1391
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: mean somehow these like I was able to watch south

1392
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 2: episodes of south Park at home. My parents were like,

1393
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 2: what is this so whatever, Like they couldn't totally understand

1394
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: why it was vulgar, like a dialogue were the vulgar things.

1395
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: But then my friends and I in the third grade,

1396
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 2: like these like French Canadian middle class working class kids,

1397
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 2: like I guess their parents loved South Park two or

1398
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 2: something and they would watch South Park at home. And

1399
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: then we just all thought we were the south Park

1400
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: kids because we were like in a cold town.

1401
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, like bundled. It was like a weird one to

1402
01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: one there.

1403
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was like this like fat kid and he

1404
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: was like, I'm Cartman. And then we all loved it

1405
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: so much. And then when I had to move, when

1406
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: I told everyone I was moving to Colorado, they were like,

1407
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, you're gonna be We're going to south

1408
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 2: Park and it was this huge and so we're going

1409
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 2: down South. So then going to Colorado with South Park

1410
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 2: on the brain, it was just like the only thing

1411
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,480
Speaker 2: that made like the move to Colorado was so complicated

1412
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: by like John Manny Ramsay and Columne and then but

1413
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: then south Park was this other like contour to it

1414
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: where it was like but at least it's like it's

1415
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 2: it's where all these weird things happen, and that is true,

1416
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,839
Speaker 2: like Colorado is a weird place.

1417
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: Like it has all like.

1418
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: The bizarre shit that would go down in Florida, but

1419
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: with like this like hippie dippy.

1420
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: Counterweight to it.

1421
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: I fucking love south Park so much, and we need

1422
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: to watch some classic episodes and the movie one of

1423
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 2: Sondheim's favorite musicals.

1424
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: Really, he said that, I feel like we've talked about

1425
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: this on the podcast. I probably he's somewhere on the record.

1426
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 2: He was like, that is one of the best musicals

1427
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 2: and one of the best movie musicals ever.

1428
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll never forget. I actually did.

1429
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 5: Well.

1430
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: I have seen that movie many times because I just

1431
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. For some reason, I've seen the movie

1432
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: a bunch like and I downloaded a lot of this

1433
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: should jugging face, Like I used to listen to that

1434
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 1: all the time. But also blame Canada performance the Oscars

1435
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,480
Speaker 1: I remember being unforgettable.

1436
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: And it's also because the actress who played Kyle's mom,

1437
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: soon after the south Park movie came out, took her

1438
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: own life. There's a lot of like south Park is really,

1439
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: I mean, god, it's still going like it's such an

1440
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: important piece of culture literally, and like it's so funny

1441
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 2: that we haven't talked about this before on the show.

1442
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: I think it's because it's a weird blind spot for me. Yeah,

1443
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: my parents might. They weren't helicoptery, but they were just

1444
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: sensitive to like I couldn't watch MTV and I could

1445
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: not watch south Park. Uh huh hard no, And it

1446
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: literally it weirdly made me fill those spaces and with

1447
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 1: other things that's interesting that I think does inform my culture.

1448
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: One which was the.

1449
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: And then what's the standard for south Park? You think

1450
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: like the Simpsons at least, but I'm not even a Simpsons,

1451
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: Like was it?

1452
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: Honestly, I watched a lot of like I watched a

1453
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: lot of Nickelodeon. I watched a lot of Nickelodeon and

1454
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: Disney Channel, like I was. It's interesting to see those

1455
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: things get relitigated, huh, because you're like, oh, like you're

1456
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: like absolutely, this is crazy, right right right, It's interesting

1457
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: like children's programming at the time, And you know what

1458
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: I'll say about south Park, at least they weren't pretending

1459
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: to be for totally like a lot of this other

1460
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: shit that was like explicitly marketed to kids, and it

1461
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: was all fucked up and really endangering the people the

1462
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: kids that were performing that stuff, Like at least that

1463
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: weren't like it wasn't like nefarious like South Park was

1464
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: what it was. It never pretended to not be totally.

1465
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: I know, there's like a there's like a genius security

1466
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: to that of intention. And to bring it back to Peacock,

1467
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: great documentary on Peacock came out already.

1468
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: I thought it was new, but it already apparently came

1469
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: out a couple of years ago called I Love You

1470
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: You Hate Me about Barney Oh, and about the culture

1471
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: of Barney bashing that I didn't really fully know about,

1472
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: but I remember growing up like, oh, it was like

1473
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: cool to hate Barney. It was like punk rocke Well

1474
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: because it was so popular. But not only that, but

1475
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: because it's the one of the actress from Blues Clues.

1476
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: They interview him and he his theory is the reason

1477
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 2: there was such a crazy collective anger towards Barney was

1478
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: that it was targeted towards three year olds, specifically, right,

1479
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: and like the creative Barney was this mother who wanted

1480
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 2: a show for her son and it came in the

1481
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: form of Barney because he was obsessed with dinosaurs. And

1482
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Barney is pure I love you, you can

1483
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: do anything.

1484
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: We love each other.

1485
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: It's the messaging is so smooth brained and it's there's

1486
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: no nuance to it. And the guy who's in Blue

1487
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: Schools was like all great children's programming has broken people

1488
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: and broken characters in it, like Sesame Street, like yeah,

1489
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: Burton or like especially Burt broken person, even Oscar the

1490
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 2: Grouch he broke, Like there are these complex emotional Cookie

1491
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: is a drug addict. Cookie is a drug like but

1492
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: not know though, you know what I mean. Like the

1493
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: like children's programming when it's done well and it's for

1494
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: a large age demographic, it is like these com emotionally

1495
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: complex characters.

1496
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really interesting point. And like the same

1497
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: with Big Bird is like a little bit depressed. It's like, yeah,

1498
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Speaker 1: he is depressed. There's there are these like layers to it.

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: Barney was clean up.

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01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: Pure, clean up, pure, like aha, everything is happy, and

1501
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 2: so that drives anyone outside of that age demo insane

1502
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 2: because they're like, that's not how the world is. And

1503
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 2: a lot of parents were jealous that their kids loved

1504
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: Barney more than them. So then it began this entire

1505
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: culture around Barney and like burning Barney effigies like it's

1506
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: it was a whole thing in the nineties. WHOA, this

1507
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:16,480
Speaker 2: is a great documentary.

1508
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: I have to watch. You have to watch. I love

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: We also have to do our own documentary on the

1510
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: Barney to Amelia Pettes Pipeline. Yes, that is Selina's autobiography

1511
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: and Demi.

1512
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: Demi Levado was was it was?

1513
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,879
Speaker 1: It was Demi Lovado.

1514
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: Yes.

1515
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting that we're gonna we actually

1516
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: are writing a film.

1517
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 2: About the Barney to Amelia.

1518
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: About the Barney to Amelia Petas Pipeline, yes, and how

1519
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: you get from one to the other. I do think

1520
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:49,480
Speaker 1: Carlos Sofia Gascon is incredible, extremely versatile performance and demanding performance.

1521
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: I love it.

1522
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: I think I think she did a cover recently for

1523
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: a magazine where it was like the movie has inspired

1524
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: a lot of love and hate, Carlos going right on.

1525
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: Both woo like that's kind of shake. Yeah, that takes

1526
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: have been very strong on them.

1527
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 3: Movie. Yeah, Yeah, shall we do?

1528
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, let's do I don't think

1529
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: so honey. Here we go first. I don't think so

1530
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: honey of the New Year. But one thing that hasn't

1531
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: changed is what I don't think, so honey, is it's

1532
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: a one minute segment where we take sixty seconds, which

1533
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: actually is a minute if you think about it, even

1534
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: for more than one second, which is just one sixtieth

1535
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 1: of a minute, where we rant and rave against something

1536
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: in pop culture that we are not jamming on. And

1537
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 1: I actually I think I want to put something to

1538
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: bed right here on the episode. Okay, here we go.

1539
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 2: This is Matt Rogers putting something to bed in his

1540
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now.

1541
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,839
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey any more jokes about holding space.

1542
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: It's a new year. Turn the page. Literally, Nikki Glazer

1543
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: four up those golden globes. We're so proud of you.

1544
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: She did the last holding space joke. Beat her. You

1545
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: can't beat that. You can't beat Tonight we celebrate movies

1546
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: and hold space for television. That is the last holding

1547
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: space joke. And now it's becoming a thing where it's

1548
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: like people are like, who are holding space? And that's

1549
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: taking the space of a joke, just saying holding space

1550
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: is not a joke. So we need to really think

1551
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: about do we want to continue this narrative. The answer

1552
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: has to be no, all respect to everyone involved. Was

1553
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: a fun moment, but holding space jokes are done. We

1554
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: are no longer holding space for them. Even that was

1555
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: too much, but.

1556
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, you were just using it in a sentence.

1557
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: No, I don't think, so honey, anymore humor about this

1558
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: because it actually isn't joke humor and I don't think,

1559
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: so honey, humor over jokes. Hard jokes only go Nikki.

1560
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 2: And that's one minute you put it too bad, done,

1561
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: It's done. You lowered the casket because.

1562
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: Nicki Glazer, We're so proud of you. We're so proud

1563
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: of you. Girl. That's on your gig ongoing because they

1564
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: will have you.

1565
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're you're coming back because that that's how

1566
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 2: it works. Because best case scenario, if you kill at

1567
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: hosting an awards show, they go do it again. Yeah,

1568
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: and that is kind of great, but also torture.

1569
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: Shout out. Matt Whitaker wrote on the show, just so great.

1570
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: And I have to say what my favorite bit of

1571
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: the whole thing was popular, and that was from the

1572
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 1: brain of Matt. I love popular, I love what I started.

1573
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: I love that. The bit was what it sucks? This sucks?

1574
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: What do you mean this sucks? But she sounded good.

1575
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: She rocks. Nikki, you don't just see Taylor Swift twenty

1576
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: two times. It was it twenty two. You don't just

1577
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: see Taylor that many times and don't have your shit

1578
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: together for your era's moment, of course.

1579
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: And I just love the way Nikki, Let's say, justifies

1580
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: going to see the Earth Store twenty two times. She's like,

1581
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 2: I don't have a kid. I don't go to nice

1582
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: re restaurants. I don't I don't buy handbags or luxury clothes.

1583
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: I go to This is how I choose to spend

1584
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 2: my money. I went six off, go off to you,

1585
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: my sister, to spend your money however you want to

1586
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 2: make yourself happy, and I will continue to do that as.

1587
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: Long as other people are not suffering because of that.

1588
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: You're fine.

1589
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: If you're not gambling your life away, if you're not

1590
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: taking your money for your child, partner, whatever, do whatever

1591
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 2: you want with it. I took myself to Japan, which

1592
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: you know, and I have no fucking regrets.

1593
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: No, and nor should you, nor should you ever, not ever,

1594
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: not ever, And I hope the same is true after

1595
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: you do this. I don't think so, honey. I have

1596
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: a kind of specific one.

1597
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: But I think I think we all have experienced this,

1598
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: and I hope, I hope this is legible. And that's

1599
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: a bad sign, right, I hope this reads you.

1600
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: I think you said, I think this is something we've

1601
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: all experienced, and you hope it's legible. Yep, I know

1602
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it. This is Bowen Yang's I think,

1603
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: so honey, as time starts now.

1604
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't think so honey Instagram or TikTok ads that

1605
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: are staged as like a fake podcast.

1606
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

1607
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about where it's like

1608
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: two people and I might be like, I just tried

1609
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: this new creating gummy what's it called. It's it's so

1610
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 2: clearly staged, it's so clearly actors. It's like I'm learning

1611
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: a new language with this.

1612
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: I just, first of all, I don't like podcasts being

1613
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: used as advertising material period. Believe it or not, Matt

1614
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: and I have been doing this for a long time.

1615
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: Thirty seconds.

1616
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 2: It's so funny to be It's an interesting time in podcasts, right,

1617
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: because I would not say you and I are like

1618
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: podcasters in the way that like podcasters denote something. Now,

1619
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 2: we're not like in the manisphere. We are not quite

1620
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: in like I don't know, we're like not quite like

1621
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 2: a showbiz podcast, but we're not quite like a pop

1622
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: culture comedy podcast anymore. We defy categorization. And I don't

1623
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 2: like it when people use our form and medium to

1624
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 2: create to try to sell and ship for bullshit.

1625
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. The amount of ads we have

1626
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: to do after this is so crazy.

1627
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 2: That's different. That's so that we can keep the lights

1628
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: on for us.

1629
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: If someone is aping our shit to fake like an

1630
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: organic conversation about how much they love to use like

1631
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: a UV phone sanitizer, that's weird to me. My god,

1632
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: all those words. But you know what I mean, I

1633
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: do that. That's what. That's why it isn't like anything

1634
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,520
Speaker 1: fake and anyway, it's like stupid, it's crazy.

1635
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 2: This is a thing. And I know for a fact

1636
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: that people are experiencing this on their scrolls. I'm like, yeah,

1637
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: this is a weird fucking thing. Why are we pretending

1638
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: that this is a podcast?

1639
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 1: Well probably also like who knows if it even is

1640
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: actual human beings doing it, Like oh the AI. We

1641
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: want to say thank you to whoever it was that

1642
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:59,440
Speaker 1: voted for us to be nominated or the iHeart Podcast

1643
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: of the Year. Thank you, thank you so much. Hopefully

1644
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: we might win a second time. We might be like

1645
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 1: Hillary Swank, oh my god, or think about that Merrill. Well.

1646
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: I hope that people stop thinking. I really hope people.

1647
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: Do you have any resolutions? I think we're over we're

1648
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: too old. Do I have any resolutions? Honestly? My resolution

1649
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: I think I had one, and then I was like,

1650
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: it's always like pretty vague. It's like care less what

1651
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 1: people think. Sure, I think I need to keep doing

1652
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. Keep doing what you're doing. That's that's

1653
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: my resolution.

1654
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: Don't change a thing. I wouldn't change a thing, neither

1655
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: would I have or you, honey. My resolution is my

1656
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 2: year long project is to make this playlist that I

1657
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 2: just want to have on while I'm cooking, cleaning.

1658
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: A life playlist. It's not a life.

1659
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 2: It's called my nighttime playlist, and it's like my wine

1660
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: down like good because I was just in every bar

1661
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: in Japan I was at, and I didn't go to

1662
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 2: that many, but there was just like there's so many

1663
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: nights where I would just be like and like just

1664
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 2: the most beautifully decorated place and the vibes were just

1665
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 2: sublime and the music was like an El Fitzgerald song

1666
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: or something.

1667
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: I was just like, Oh, I need to like curated.

1668
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 2: I need it, but I need to like draw this

1669
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: out for my own life. I need like fun international music.

1670
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: Not that elephants drawers internace, but you know what I mean.

1671
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: Like it was just like I just want like music

1672
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 2: to live.

1673
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: To just I think that is it sounds so silly.

1674
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: I think there is a definish chance that you will

1675
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: create this. I think there is a definish chance. We

1676
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: didn't name this episode. That's kind of beautiful.

1677
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 2: What if untitled?

1678
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: Oh? Untitled? Fine, what do we do? What do we

1679
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 1: call it? Throwing Neck? Throwing Neck?

1680
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: This is episode one, throwing Throwing Neck our ninth year.

1681
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a podcast twenty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty one,

1682
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: two three four Yeah this oh five?

1683
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like if you but it's it has

1684
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: not been a full decade, Like it'll be a decade

1685
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 2: when we hit twenty twenty six.

1686
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: March twenty twenty six, we have to throw a big

1687
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 1: party for our ten year anniversary. Where should we have it? Hooters?

1688
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: I think there is a definition chance then we will

1689
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: have it at Hooters. Oh my god, that will be amazing.

1690
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: That'll be amazing the time score Hooters. Is there one

1691
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't know anymore. There's one in Toronto. We can

1692
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: do that. Oh, we could do that.

1693
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. I think there is a

1694
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: definition chance. Should we call it definition? Should we call

1695
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 2: this a definition chance? Or throwing neck?

1696
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Throwing neck? Throwing neck? People will love to see that. Oh,

1697
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: you have me to throw neck, You have me to

1698
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 1: throw neck. And before anyone jumps on our case, we've

1699
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 1: given credit to Delta work million times popularizing the phrase.

1700
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 3: And we need.

1701
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 2: Delta work on the podcast. Delta work on the podcast.

1702
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: Now we need Delta work to me more.

1703
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: That's it.

1704
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: And Cookie Monster and Cookie Monster look for those Hmmm,

1705
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 2: I think that's a good that's a residute.

1706
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: Look for the heroes. Look for the helpers, Look for

1707
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: the helpers. We end every episode of the song.

1708
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 4: Many years I've waited for a gift like yours to

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