1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,559 Speaker 1: Everybody. 2 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to mass the Territory, brought to you by the 3 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Foul Territory Network. Chris, thank you for coming back on. 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: I got one question to start off here. Obviously, we 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: had the big breaking news this past week, and that 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: was you didn't finish your yard House meal. What the 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: heck happened there? 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: My friend? Yeah, you know, it's bad when I leave 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: mid meal. Yard House is my favorite friend, white establishment, 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: great chain restaurant. I'm plugging for a sponsorship or an 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Anil deal. But I was a you know, a long 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: day of actual coverage before then. I was alone for US, 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: with Chris on the road and Seawan off for Father's Day. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: I was doing the Yankees finale alone. Actually wrote a 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: lot and was like, oh god, I've been writing, you know, 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: for seven hours. I should probably go have something to eat. 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: And I sat down. I saw Robert Murray's tweet and 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: I called Sean and I said this is real and 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: we both kind of said probably not. And once it 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: was clear that it was, I ended up closing out 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: and trying to run back inside Fenway and there they 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: were packing up profile out Ever's car and I was 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: on a plane in San Francisco. Than twenty four hours. 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: So been a little nuts, but that is the job 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: and wouldn't change it for the world. 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Well, leading up to that, because we had gotten reports 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: that there were conversations here over you know, the prior 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: month or so, where I going back a little ways. 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: Had you heard any kind of rumblings or anything leading 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: up to that at all? 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: No, And I don't think anybody did, you know. I 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: think the Red Box kept this one pretty close to 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: the vest. The last thing they wanted to do was 34 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: have this be even more of a distraction than I 35 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: think it already had become within the walls of the clubhouse. 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people always kind of get on 37 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: you and say like, oh, like you're taking a victory lap, 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: or you're you know this this and this and on this. 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: What I'll say is like we've been reporting all along 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: that the situation was not good, you know. I mean 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: I had a tweet and it was probably a little 42 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: bit more vague than you should put out as a 43 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: journal because it was just a feeling thing about the 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: clubhouse being off and feeling off for the last few weeks, 45 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of months, with the Devers cloud, you know, 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: looming over them, and people said, that's not true. Teammates 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: don't care. This is not a big deal. Look at 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: how he's hitting. You know, I think it's a good 49 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: lesson that there is a lot of stuff that goes 50 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: into you know, a baseball season past an ops that 51 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: of course was a really good one. So you know, 52 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: you kind of got to decouple the fact that Devers 53 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: was mashing and you know, smiling when he hit walk offs, 54 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: versus the fact that you know that I think was 55 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: his time where he was happy to be there. When 56 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: he was on the field, when he was in the 57 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: batter's box, the rest of it, he seemed done. And 58 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I'm here and was at the 59 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: press conference yesterday, and I kind of forgot what it 60 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: seemed like we were, what it was like for upfield 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: devs to smile and be happy and joking kid around. 62 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: And I was saying that to Pete Abraham, was the 63 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: other Boston reporter out on this trip, like God, like, 64 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: we haven't seen him this happy in months. And you know, again, 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: there's moments on the field that everybody sees on nessa whatever, 66 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: but him in the clubhouse, an eight minute media availability 67 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: after the game, that's more than he's said any to 68 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: anybody over the last few months, and it just it 69 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: was a situation that, looking back, was a really bad one. 70 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: And I think, you know a lot of people whistle 71 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: past the graveyard. Now it's okay, he's hitting, he's doing great, 72 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: which was true. But you don't trade a guy unless 73 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: it gets bad. 74 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: They did, and it was yeah, and I'm glad you 75 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: mentioned the clubhouse there. That was one of the questions 76 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: I want to ask you, like you said, you're in 77 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: San Francisco right now. I believe Christopher Smith of Mass 78 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: Live is in Seattle right now covering the team. I 79 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: think Sean McAdam is going to be traveling this weekend. 80 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: But based off of what you've heard, you know, from 81 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: what Chris has seen in Seattle, what seemed to be 82 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: the vibes right now among the clubhouse, I know, you know, 83 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: we've had you know, guys come out and you know, 84 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: like Jaren Duran, Crochet, Bueller, they've given comments. But for 85 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: the most part, what I've gathered, you know, kind of 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: reading between the leaves here is is they were shocked, 87 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: but they all seem to be pretty quick to move on. 88 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Here is that kind of what you're getting as well. 89 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think part of it is, you know, 90 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: that cloud being lifted for sure, of Okay, we don't 91 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: have to worry about this elephant in the room and 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: the you know, the highest paid player being unhappy and 93 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: the drama and the distraction. And again when I say that, 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: I've said this now about four thousand times, Like, it 95 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that guys were anti Raffi or that they 96 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: were necessarily you know, with him. There's teammates I talked 97 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: to said we feel like the team screwed him over 98 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: and you know, I would do the same thing if 99 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: I were him. There was guys who believed he should 100 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: really pick up a glove and go to first or whatever, 101 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: or you know, there's blame around to go around here. 102 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: We've said that no matter how you you know, slice it, 103 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: how you look at it, or how teammates did, I 104 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: think it was unquestionable that it was a distraction. You know, 105 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: I had a teammate tell me a couple of weeks ago, Hey, 106 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: as you can tell, the group's really tight right now, 107 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: so don't take things personally like that's you know, meaningful. 108 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of guys it could kind of 109 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: cut through the bs and have that type of conversation. 110 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: And so I think the reaction, you know, especially in Seattle, 111 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: was one of I think some of the quotes looked 112 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: a little worse than they're supposed to be, like Duran 113 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: saying one in twenty six, stuff like that. I think 114 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: that while they're happy that that distraction is gone, I 115 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: think they have no choice but to power through. What 116 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: are they going to set out on Monday night in 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Seattle and not play? They have to say, no, we're 118 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: leaving the guys in this room and we're happy to 119 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: move forward. Anybody with a brain knows that this team 120 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: is a lot less talented and a lot has a 121 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: lot worse of a playoff chance without Devers, especially as 122 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: currently constructed without that big bat. And you know, with 123 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: a bray you're gone for or out for one more night. 124 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: Brag me out for a little while costs us out 125 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: for the year. And you see the guys who are playing. 126 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: So I think they didn't have a choice other than 127 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: to say that. And I think when you look at 128 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, how Monday night went, you can look at 129 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: all momentum. Are they going to fold them the first 130 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: night without Devers. Are they gonna have a good team, 131 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: and they had a good team win. Anthony Homert and 132 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Giulido pitched well. At the end of the day, that 133 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: stuff was a little overblown. If Walker Buehler grooves a 134 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: pitched to cal Raley and it's a Grand Slam, it 135 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if Raphael Devers is sitting in the dugout 136 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: or not. They're gonna lose, right so in a big game, 137 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I think today, and then there's gonna be I think 138 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: an emotional weekend here. I'll be here for the open 139 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: arm Friday night and then go home and Sean will 140 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: be here for the weekend, as you said. But you 141 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: know there, I don't think that there's people who are 142 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: up in arms and completely not understanding why Craig Breslow 143 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: did this, and so therefore I think the reaction was 144 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: what it was. 145 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of Craig Breslow in the front office, Uh, 146 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: you know, I just asked, you know, what what seems 147 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: to be the mood among the clubhouse. What seems you know, 148 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: based off of what you've heard or you know, other 149 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: people saying things, what seems to be the mood within 150 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: the front office right now? Does that seem any different 151 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: to you on your end. 152 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: No, I mean it's tough, like I'm not right now 153 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: around the Giants and the Guardians, so it's tough to 154 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: kind of gauge. It was funny yesterday I was like 155 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: ubering of the game and I was like, I wonder 156 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: who the Giants are playing, because you know what doesn't 157 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: matter to me, So the Guardians and they won last night. 158 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Good for them. But the yeah, I think, you know, 159 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: the takeaway for an office wise, other than the fact 160 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: that you know they made one of the boulder moves 161 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: in franchise history is Craig Breslow's ruthlessness continues to be 162 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: a theme for me, and it has been for a while. 163 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: You know that was a trademark of theo Epstein is. Hey, 164 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: if I think this is gonna make the team better, 165 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: comel or I water, I'm going to do it like 166 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: let's let's go. And I think hein Bloom missed a 167 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: little bit of that because he is an unbelievably nice person. Uh, 168 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: and he was I don't know, if afraid to ruffle feathers, 169 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: but kind of tread carefully in that way. And I 170 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: think in a second stint in Saint Louis, he'll be 171 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: better at that, and just knowing that, hey, you know, 172 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: you can't be the nice guy all the time. Breslo 173 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: has never come in and wanted to make friends and 174 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: be buddy buddy with people, despite being a former big leader. 175 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: And I think that you know, he obviously, I look, 176 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: the first big trade he made was du Goo. It's 177 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: a trade with the Yankees that's bold, forgotten now and 178 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: all the other things that have happened, but you know, 179 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: you look at all the decisions, there's a lot of 180 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: bold ones from sale so obviously crochet of Bregman to 181 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: this being the biggest and you know that story is 182 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: not told yet because we don't know what they're going 183 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: to do with the money that they've saved in the 184 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: Dever's deal. You can't really judge this deal until you 185 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: know that. If they don't, then again I think they 186 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: should fold as an organization. It would be embarrassing. Yeah, 187 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: it would be. I agree. 188 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: Well, you're in San fran right now, and you were 189 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: able to catch some of the pregame yesterday and Raffi 190 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: was taking grounders at first base. That is the hot 191 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: talking point as of right now. He might even play 192 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: first base this weekend, who knows, you know, but kind 193 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: of dialing it back a little bit, you know, rewinding here, 194 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: John Henry. You know, he flew to Kansas City to 195 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: talk to him. Why do you think, looking back, now 196 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 2: that we've had a few days to really unravel everything, 197 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: why do you think that or anything else just wasn't 198 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,479 Speaker 2: able to remedy the issue. 199 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: Because I think RAFTE was too far gone at that point. 200 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I think they were stunned 201 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: that that last ditch effort didn't work, because it didn't. 202 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: If it did, it would have started taking grounders, or 203 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: it would have been more amenable to some of these things. 204 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: I think, you know, as everybody said, and as I 205 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: wrote in a long column last night, you know this, 206 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: the seeds of this were planted when Alex Cora was 207 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: claiming that Alex pregnant could be a gold glove second 208 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: basement and uh Dever, they called Devers and said, don't worry, 209 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: you're a third basement and we're going to keep telling 210 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: people that, only to call him into the office and say, actually, 211 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: you're going to be the DH. And when you do that, 212 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: when you try to pull one over, the red Sox 213 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: say well, we weren't going to, you know, introduce a 214 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: hypothetical to him to piss him off. We had to wait. Now, 215 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: I think you're going to be as upfront as possible, 216 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: and they weren't. And I also think they underestimated and 217 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: misunderstood a guy that's been in their organization for a 218 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: long time. They did not realize how Madie was going 219 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: to be, which is weird because, like we did, everybody 220 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: on the outside was like, he's not going to be 221 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: happy about this, and the Red Sox and this is 222 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: a direct quote from you know, people around them. Uh, 223 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, when this was first happening, someone said, well, 224 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: what's he going to do? Retire? Or is he going 225 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: to be our DH? And I was like, well, I mean, 226 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's probably not going to retire because he 227 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't get the money, but I think this is a 228 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: pretty big issue. And they basically said, well what's he 229 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: going to do? And we found out right? And I 230 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: think you know it's that F around five out or 231 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: F around find out scale that you see that meme 232 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: the guy with the line graph, Like I think I 233 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: think both sides did in this case, the Red Sox, 234 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, tried to push, saw how far they could push, 235 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: kind of not treating their best player right, and they 236 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: got this as a result, and RAFFI pushed to see, how, 237 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, kind of looking out for himself he could 238 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: be and what are you gonna do, Dary, what are 239 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Trade me? And they did. And so 240 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think raffis thrilled to be 241 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: here now, now that it's all happened, and he can 242 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: paler around with Barry Bonds and still collect his paycheck 243 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: and you know, be at a beautiful ballpark every day. 244 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: But it was messy, and it was messy for sure. 245 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: Krat's real question for you. So I'm in Arena Club 246 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: and I opened up a slab pack. I pulled a 247 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: Wyatt Langford Auto rookie card. I got an immediate offer 248 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: from Arena Club. I turned it down. It was in 249 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: the mid three hundreds range. I've gotten a few offers since. 250 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: Thoughts on Wyatt should I hold on? 251 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 4: I saw it. I didn't see it when you ripped 252 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: the pack, But it looks so sick with everything around 253 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: and how it's spinning in your showroom. That John looked nice. 254 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: But no, you shouldn't sell it. Maybe wait till he 255 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: makes an all start or two and all of a 256 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 4: sudden that three hundred goes up and you're going to 257 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 4: get another instant off right away on Arena Club. 258 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: That's right by sell trade. Slab packs are there for 259 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: you too to rip a pack, And for me, I'm 260 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: just leaving it in the showroom for now deciding what 261 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to do with it. But if I did 262 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: want to sell it, then I can get myself another 263 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: slab pack or buy a card that I want to buy. 264 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: Get twenty percent off your first slab packer card purchase 265 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: by going to Arena club dot com slash val use 266 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: code fo u L. 267 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you bring up the last ditch effort 268 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: thing from John Henry. I feel like he's done this 269 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: in the past multiple times, right, I did it with 270 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: John Lester. I think he flew out so his ranks 271 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: wasn't able to convince him to come back. Do you 272 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: think he'll ever learn his lesson from any of this? 273 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't blame John Henry on this one. 274 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: I blame him all the time for different things. And 275 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: I think you know, this was for the first time 276 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: in a few years the It was the most active aggressive, 277 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: look me, I'm the guy move he's made since twenty 278 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: nineteen when it comes to the Red Sox. I mean, 279 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: for a guy that doesn't talk and hides in the 280 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: shadows and all the stuff we always talk about, he 281 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: made it clear to the world, I'm going to Kansas City. 282 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to be standing in the dugout. It's not 283 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Sam's job right now, it's not Craig, it's me, and 284 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: he didn't have to do that. I think it spoke 285 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: to how bad the situation had gotten at that point, 286 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: and so I think, you know, when I think he 287 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: was looped in late. It's not John Henry's job to 288 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: call out Raphael Devers and say, hey, we might sign Bregman, 289 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: and it's not his job to outline the why he 290 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: might go to first base in the first place. I 291 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: think if the communication was better from the jump from Breslo, 292 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: from Cora, whoever else, it would not have gotten to 293 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: a point where John had to even make that trip. 294 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: And so therefore, yeah, I mean, I think, you know, 295 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: to me, he's he's low on the list of those 296 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: to blame here. Devers is above him. Breslo is Cora 297 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: as other front office members, you name it. But John 298 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: like he it's not his job at the beginning to 299 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: tell Raffie. 300 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: That, right, Yeah, and I agree, Yeah, I think it 301 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: was the right move for him to fly to Kansas City. 302 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: But more so, do you think there because there seems 303 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: to be a communication issue within this organization. There seems 304 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: to be just a lot of you know, people not 305 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: on the same page, hearing different things. Do you think 306 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: the Red Sox, you know, at some point, will finally 307 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: be able to get this cleared up? 308 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: You know, I think, like I said the other day, 309 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: it's we can talk about you know, individual situations with 310 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: different actors, with different scenarios, whether it be the way 311 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: things happen with Mooki, whether it be you know, things 312 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: getting bad with Verdugo as they did and then being 313 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: benched and traded, whether it be you know, some of 314 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: these other things we've seen Devers now this feud, which 315 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: it was being maybe the big headline grabber of all. 316 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: If you look back, you're looking at a few years 317 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: of just a dysfunctional organization, uh, and dysfunction that leaks out, 318 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: drama that dominates the headlines. And you know, I cover 319 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: this team, you pay attention to this team and the 320 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: way you do. Everybody who's listening to this is probably 321 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: a Red Sox fan, and so we have the blinders 322 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: on where like this is all we pay attention to. 323 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: So is it just we think this is more drama 324 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: than anywhere else because it's all we know? I'm starting 325 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: to think not. I think it's actually a pretty dramatic 326 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: and drama filled and dysfunctional place group organization compared to 327 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: everywhere else in the league, you know, and that you know, 328 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: the fish rots from the head on that one, whether 329 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: that's a you know, Kennedy problem or a Henry problem 330 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: or you know. One of the things I do think 331 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: that that comes into it is, you know, when you 332 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: when you're switching out GMS or President of Baseball Operation, 333 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: chief baseball officers as much as they are and you 334 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: have them, you know, learning Alex Cora and Alex Cora 335 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: learning a third guy in Breslo, and you know, Henry 336 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: some days is really involved, in some days he's not. 337 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: And all like they don't have the consistency of like, hey, 338 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: look Cashman has been there for a long time and 339 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: he's working out with Boone for you know, eight nine 340 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: years whatever it is. It's, oh, there's Dombrowski and he 341 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: wants to do it this way, and then Kor is here, 342 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: but now Kor is gone and Blooms here and Ron 343 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Renicky and then Kor is back, and then Breslo and 344 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, it's it's that's the dysfunction. 345 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: And I think also from a leadership perspective, when you 346 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: have these stars leaving, there's turnover in the clubhouse that 347 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: adds to it too, where you know it was Bets 348 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: and then Bogart's and then you know Justin Turner was 349 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: a leader. He leaves after a year. Bregman comes in, 350 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: but he can't really lead because the Deverest thing is looming. 351 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of angles to it. But at the 352 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, the fans deserve an organization that 353 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: that's much more functional than this one, and they haven't 354 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: gotten that for quite some time. And I think that, 355 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, does that play onto the field. I think so, 356 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: And I think we've seen that play out. 357 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it's funny looking back. I made 358 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: a post the other day on Twitter going back, like 359 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: over the last how many years now since John Henry 360 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: and his group purchased the Red Sox. There's always something 361 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: every year. There's always some kind of a big story, 362 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: you know, even theo Epstein and the gorilla suit. You know, 363 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: it's always something every single year. But you know that's 364 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: the past, you know, with the future. We've seen Craig 365 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: Breslow be very aggressive, right, very good offseason this past year, 366 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: trade deadline, he was active last year. 367 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Are you hearing. 368 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: Anything in terms of, you know, what could be some 369 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: maybe some possible moves that could be coming up here, 370 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: because as well, Massa Dakia Yoshita, he's starting to take 371 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: some swings, he's starting to throw Chorus now mentioning him 372 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: maybe getting back into the mix. But if he comes back, 373 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: you're still gonna have a logjam out there. You're still 374 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of outfielders looking for playing time. 375 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: You know, we saw Bueller's performance last night. You know, yeah, 376 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: starting pitching was looking very good there for a little while. 377 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: But you know, you still wonder if they could add 378 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: something there. Do you feel like there is a follow 379 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: up move that could come at some point? 380 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is. I think they're in danger 381 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: of you know, they operated on their own timeline and 382 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: the Giants timeline by making this Devers move on June 383 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: and fifteenth. That doesn't mean the rest of the league 384 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: is ready to deal. You know, you have a lot 385 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: of teams within striking distance who are not willing to sell, 386 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: and you have a lot of teams with designs on 387 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: buying because they are in that vast middle. And so therefore, 388 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: you know it's going to be a crazy sellers market. 389 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: You're going to have the bad teams like the Rockies 390 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: if they have anybody good, and you know, maybe Baltimore 391 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: and some of these other teams that you know are 392 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: going to be willing to sell. But the mark is 393 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: not going to establish itself until after the All Star break, 394 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: and so that's a month away, and so the Red 395 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: Sox kind of have to I think, you know, the 396 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: next few weeks are super important. Can they tread water 397 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: without a lineup with a lineup that doesn't have at 398 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: least for the next two three weeks obviously Devers forever 399 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: but Bregman and you know, that's huge, and if they 400 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: can do that, they can put themselves in a position 401 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: to buy. But if they can completely tank, you know, 402 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: and they're eight games under five hundred on July twentieth, 403 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: it's going to be a hard ask for Breslos to buy. 404 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: And so they're saying all the right things right now. 405 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: They still plan on going all in, they still plan 406 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: on adding they have still prospect capital and the money 407 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: to do that. I just think it's early and that's 408 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: kind of the dangerous part of you know, these next 409 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: four weeks we're doing this now, you create a huge hole. 410 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: There's games, They're going to be played every day. You 411 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: saw them get shut out last night, just one game, 412 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: I know, but it is what it is. You know, 413 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: if they're going to fill the money in the roster 414 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: spot and the production, they've going to do that, you know, 415 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: probably at the end of July. And that's not tomorrow, 416 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: that's a month away. Yeah. 417 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, let's say, hypothetically speaking, let's say they're still 418 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: hanging around this wild card race game out, a couple 419 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: of games out. You know, based off of what you've heard, 420 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: your own opinion, kind of what you've been seeing, who 421 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: do you think could be the most logical trade candidate 422 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: if they were to make a big move. 423 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, the market really hasn't even played out, 424 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: you know. That's that's the thing, like you don't know 425 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: who's going to be available quick. You know, the Orioles 426 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: decide to you know, if they tread water a little 427 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: bit today, you know, to keep o'hearne or some of 428 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: those guys. Obviously. You know the problem is when you 429 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: have terrible teams like the Marlins and the Rockies and 430 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Pirates, they don't have talent that much, 431 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: so you know you need to Like that's why somebody 432 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: like the Blue Jays potentially being bad this year is 433 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: going to be so good for body with Vlad and 434 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: Bashett and all those guys. That's obviously not the case 435 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: in Blades locked up. But you know, I think the 436 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: three areas starting pitching relief as it always is for 437 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: every contender, uh Capital C or lower case contender. And 438 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: then first base. You know, I think when you look 439 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: at the roster, they're you know, still limited and where 440 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: they can put this big bat right, Like you want 441 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: to give Campbell some runway at second. It's not like 442 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: you're going to get a big bat at second anyway. 443 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: You're going to run with Story and Meyer and Bregman 444 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: and some combo with those other three and field spots 445 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: at catcher. You want to see what you have out 446 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: of our bias for the rest of the year he 447 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: has been great. Then you have too many outfielders. And 448 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: if you're fast tracking Yoshida, now you have Yoshida, ref Snyder, Duran, Rafaela, 449 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: A Bray, you H and Anthony so you have now 450 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: six if you have one in the d H spot, 451 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: it is what it is. So that really tells me 452 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: that they have to go get a big time first baseman. 453 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: I know Reee Hoskins has been a name people have 454 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: talked about. You know, Milwaukee is still obviously in the 455 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: mix and in the hunt and good. So that's tough 456 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: for them to sell on a player who you know 457 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: is producing and it is you know, doing well and 458 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: they're doing well. So it's it's tough because the way 459 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: the roster's set up pitching, you can always add pitching 460 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: and figure it out, but you know, unless you you're 461 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: not going to trade Campbell, Anthony Meyer or Narvaias. So 462 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: those spots you're gonna want to fill are tough. Decision 463 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: is going to have to be had. Maybe if they 464 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: want to, like I don't know, add a power hitting 465 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: right handed outfielder and you know, make Rafael utility guy 466 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: and send Anthony down if he's struggling. Maybe, but I 467 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: don't think they're there yet. And I also think, you 468 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: know the Dever's deal signal, they wanted to give the 469 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: Big three a lot of runway, and we've seen that 470 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: now you know them playing every day. I think Campbell's 471 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: playing center today. Not my problem because I'm not covering 472 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: the game, but those types of things like you're going 473 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: to see them try to mix and match and we'll 474 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: see how it goes. 475 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, well, Chris, I want to thank you 476 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: so much for coming on today. Do you want to 477 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: say in San fran please get yourself a meal to 478 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: make up for the Yardhouse loss. 479 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: They got some good food over there. Well, when you're 480 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: a pro tip, when you're on the road, you can 481 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: expense it, when you're at home you can't. So it 482 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: actually all works out perfect. 483 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: Well, Thank you, Chris. Just real quick, let the listeners 484 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: know where they can find you. Podcasts, Twitter, Chris Catillo 485 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: on Twitter cot I l O. It's ninety percent Red 486 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: Sox news and reporting and ten percent arguing with fans. 487 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: So the last week has spend more fifty to fifty 488 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 2: and then mass Live and the Fenway Rundown podcast. 489 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: Awesome. 490 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: Well, thank you Chris, appreciate your. 491 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: Time anytime, man say your later 492 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: M hm.