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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Stealer Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Shuler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: on a Monday, and not just any Monday, Not just

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Speaker 2: any Monday. I guess I almost set a breaking news Monday,

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Speaker 2: but it's not breaking point. It all happened on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: But the Steelers have found their next head coach and

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Speaker 2: it is a familiar name, Mike McCarthy. We are going

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Speaker 2: to react over the next two hours. We'll have a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a different show on Tuesday tomorrow around

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Speaker 2: McCarthy's press conference. We'll get into all of that later,

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Speaker 2: but Matt here, we are sign sealed, delivered. It'll become

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Speaker 2: official tomorrow Tuesday at two o'clock when that press conference is.

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Speaker 2: But the Steelers have found their guy and it is

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Speaker 2: it's bergnative Mike McCarthy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so I'll start with the negative. I mean, a

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Speaker 3: lot of people seem upset about it because he's not

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Speaker 3: the young, upstart, change, you know, big change type of coach,

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Speaker 3: just because he's been around as long basically as Tomlin

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Speaker 3: does not mean things aren't going to change dramatically. I

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Speaker 3: mean he sees the game much differently. He's from a

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Speaker 3: different side of the ball. You're gonna have all new coaches,

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Speaker 3: and really what it comes down to to me are

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Speaker 3: two aspects that set McCarthy aside from all the other candidates. One,

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Speaker 3: I think he's the best candidate out there to keep

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Speaker 3: you competitive. Now sure, I mean, just team won the division, guys,

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Speaker 3: and maybe a lot of you want to the march

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Speaker 3: for arch or whatever. Right, Yes, the people in charge

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Speaker 3: will never disagree with you more. And you guys have

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Speaker 3: gotten used to winning a lot of games around here

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Speaker 3: and have gotten pretty soft as fans in that regard

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Speaker 3: real quick.

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Speaker 2: That is just a like, it's funny you kind of

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Speaker 2: start there, because yeah, anytime there would be discord among

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Speaker 2: the fan base, mh motes would always start there. He'd

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Speaker 2: always be like, listen, if you want a team that's

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Speaker 2: going to punt on a season, that's gonna have a

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Speaker 2: five year plan for the future, you're just rooting for

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Speaker 2: the wrong team. And that's not to say that everybody

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Speaker 2: has to agree with it. That's the best way to run.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying fall in line and a Bay Deer leader. Right,

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Speaker 2: that's not what I'm saying. But that's the way the

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Speaker 2: Steelers are always going to operate. It's just one of

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Speaker 2: those like it is what it is type things. Yes,

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Speaker 2: when you get on the Pennsylvania Turnpike you have to

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Speaker 2: pay a toll. You could complain about it all you want,

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Speaker 2: but you know, if you ride on the turnpike, you're

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Speaker 2: paying a toll. That's the way it is. All these

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Speaker 2: organizations are different, All these organizations are different. If you

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Speaker 2: know you're a Steeler fan, they are never going to say,

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Speaker 2: oh we can, we can stink it up for a

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Speaker 2: couple of years, or we can we can hit this

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Speaker 2: massive reset button and you're right. And again this is

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Speaker 2: not me telling fans how to think that. You have

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Speaker 2: to agree with that, and you have to think that

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Speaker 2: that's right, right, But I think complaining about it is

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Speaker 2: just wasting energy, It's just spinning your wheels. Because that's

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Speaker 2: the way the Steelers are always going to operate.

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Speaker 3: That's why I started there. I mean, you just don't

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Speaker 3: win the division and be like, ah, throw it in

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Speaker 3: for next year.

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Speaker 2: This organization march for arc, right. I didn't think you'd

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Speaker 2: be throwing out March for Arch in the first three.

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Speaker 3: Minutes show, right. So first of all, I think he definitely,

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Speaker 3: of everybody involved, gives you the best chance to stay competitive.

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Speaker 3: And I know that you know, people are like, well,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't help you win a Super Bowl. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that it doesn't help you win Super Bowl. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think the goals are still the same. But this

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Speaker 3: organization you put it better than I did, is never

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Speaker 3: going to change their tone on how to handle this

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Speaker 3: upcoming year, whether it's twenty twenty six or twenty and

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Speaker 3: thirty six, you know, I mean, they're going to handle

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Speaker 3: that the same way. And it shocks me that everyone

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Speaker 3: doesn't realize that by now and then the most important thing,

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Speaker 3: frankly is quarterback development. Finding and developing. There's two different

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Speaker 3: one of the entire organization, and I think they're very

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Speaker 3: sick of year after year taking a shot on a

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Speaker 3: Russ or a Trubisky or whatever. Now that doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: they won't run it back next year with Rogers. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there might not be the option this year, but I

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Speaker 3: to Shoelhouse. Whoever Shoelhouse is going to learn how to

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Speaker 3: be a head coach and then develop a quarterback. This

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Speaker 3: very very detail oriented and I'm sure marching orders from

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Speaker 3: you know, his new employers are. He went get us

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Speaker 3: Sundays to look like the Browns, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. I'll be

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Speaker 2: sod you went there to start. I'll be completely honest

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Speaker 2: with you. When this news broke Saturday, and just to

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Speaker 2: peel back the curtain real quick, I was actually like

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Speaker 2: my youngest was a little under the weather this weekend,

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Speaker 2: so I was actually kind of like trying to nap

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Speaker 2: like at one point my phone it looked like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, it looked like something out of a sci

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Speaker 2: night stand because so many text messages and phone calls

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Speaker 2: and and alerts and all that stuff. When I first

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Speaker 2: got the news on Saturday, I wasn't blown away. No,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't like, like the guy at the end of

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club like just pumping my fist in the air

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Speaker 2: bender exactly, We'll all get up. It'll be anarchy. But

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Speaker 2: I also wasn't like burying my head in the sand either. No, right,

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Speaker 2: I understand why some people wanted younger, different ideas, that

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Speaker 2: whole that whole kind of archetype that we talked about.

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Speaker 2: The hire the guy in the thirties, have him be

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Speaker 2: here for fifteen twenty years. I get it. But I

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Speaker 2: also for the people that are acting like this is

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand it at all.

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Speaker 2: And I will say this, and this is it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's all because the door number two go

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Speaker 3: fish thing. Like you folks, please tell me all you

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Speaker 3: know about Chris Shula or Sielhouse. They may turn into

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Speaker 3: fantastic coaches, but the fact is you don't know anything

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Speaker 2: And I get it from a fan standpoint, Matt A

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Speaker 2: lot of times that's fun, oh, I get that right.

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Speaker 2: And when you've had the twenty year stability of Mike Tomlins,

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Speaker 2: sometimes jumping into the deep end with your eyes closed

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 2: I get that part too, completely, get it, but.

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Speaker 3: That don't act like everything's not going to be different

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Speaker 2: And I also too kind of chuckle at that of like,

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Speaker 2: this is in a way the Steelers doing something different

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Speaker 2: let's not kid ourselves. Mike McCarthy's not going to be

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Speaker 2: the coach for fifteen to twenty years. You might not

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Speaker 2: get five of he's ten years older than Mike Tomlin. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Andy's an offensive mind. Yes, so if this was Mike

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Speaker 2: think the temperature of the fan base would be much different.

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Speaker 2: And I understand the like hiring a reach.

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Speaker 3: It was Ben Johnson when he was up for yes, ages, Yes.

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Speaker 2: I understand the idea of like, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: have a retread coach and what so many organizations get

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Speaker 2: in kind of a cycle of doing. But I think

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Speaker 2: sometimes that can be overblown. Sean Payton you could look

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Speaker 2: at as a retread coach. He had his team in

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Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game. Mike Rabel brought him up. Mike Rabel,

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Speaker 2: you could look at as a retread coach. He has

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Speaker 2: And I say all of this to say, I am

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Speaker 2: not telling fans how to like. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: If you're not blown away by it, if you don't

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Speaker 2: like I'm lecturing you, because again this last week when

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Speaker 2: overhaul this offense. And we we complain, we, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the general we media fans all that we've spent so

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Speaker 2: much time in the post Ben era, the post Killer

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Speaker 2: be era, complaining about an archaic offense. Yeah, certainly that's

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Speaker 2: thing number one that I like, I don't think we're

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Speaker 3: No. He puts up points in yards everywhere he goes,

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Speaker 3: you know, and he's had some good quarterbacks. I mean

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Speaker 3: no way back when he coached Montana, and frankly, I

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Speaker 2: That from in that room in Kansas City for two yes.

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Speaker 3: I mean from their respective times when that's a thousand

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Speaker 3: but he got the most out of Rogers. Dak is

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Speaker 3: a very good player, but he got the most out

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Speaker 3: they were the best offense in the league. Even but

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Speaker 3: I'm really going back. But Steve Bono, i mean, was

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Speaker 3: They kept him pretty good. So the real bottom line

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Speaker 3: guys he got more out of than everybody else, And

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Speaker 3: the top of the line guys he pretty much got

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Speaker 3: more out of than everybody else. I'll start there, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a good start for me. And you

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Speaker 3: don't have two entirely new schemes on both sides of

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Speaker 3: the ball, which frankly I think is good news.

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Speaker 2: It's refreshing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And listen, none of us, like,

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Speaker 2: no one has a crystal ball how any of this

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Speaker 2: plays out. No, but it's going it's going to be changed,

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Speaker 2: if what and it might not be the change that

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Speaker 2: still going to be changed. Yeah, massive change, massive, massive changes.

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Speaker 3: And I can't wait to see his staff, you know.

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Speaker 2: And and then we'll get into all that as the

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Speaker 2: encouraging part to me is a twenty first century offense.

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Speaker 2: And as you mentioned, that quarterback stuff is real quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: that my goal.

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Speaker 3: In this organization has to be developed the next quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Find did and develop the next quarterback. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 3: those words eight thousand times between now and the day

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Speaker 3: it happens.

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Speaker 2: And McCarthy signed a five year deal, right, I supposedly suppose. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the usual if after five years, say the Steelers have

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Speaker 2: That honestly and less. Unless compet now is always number

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Speaker 2: Now, without a doubt, Without a doubt, it's a plenty

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Speaker 2: What does step one, two three look like for him?

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Speaker 2: For everybody involved. We'll continue to kind of peel back

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Speaker 1: Tuned about drive on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as it is, Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: We're gona a special edition of The Drive tomorrow at

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Speaker 2: wall up there in Butler County. But yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 2: I think everyone should be good now. I know Pittsburgh

434
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 2: International was was. I think they had some issues this morning,

435
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 2: but we're back to business for the most part.

436
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Speaker 3: And yeah, coming here was your first time I left

437
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Speaker 3: that house since it's no hit hard, I mean I

438
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: set him and watch the games, of course, and getting

439
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 3: here wasn't bad.

440
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: No, getting out of my neighborhood was a little.

441
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 3: Dicey getting out of my driveway because my car was

442
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 3: so packed, and that kind of stuff was interesting.

443
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Speaker 2: But you know, other than that, but the main roads

444
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 2: they did a good job with big shout out to

445
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Speaker 2: to everybody involved with that and all the people who

446
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: worked long shifts to keep the roads safe out there.

447
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, two pm tomorrow, cool, it will become officially official.

448
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: So Matt, put yourself in Mike McCarthy's shoes. Two pm tomorrow,

449
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: your press conference conference ends. I mean he's got to

450
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: do a lot of finding a place to live and

451
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,719
Speaker 2: and and filling out his staff and all that, But

452
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Speaker 2: what is priority number as well? Let's put the staff aside,

453
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Speaker 2: because because that's priority number one.

454
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Speaker 3: And he's already he called people before he got.

455
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Speaker 2: Hired, No doubt he probably wouldn't. That was I'm sure

456
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Speaker 2: part of his conversation with mister Rooney and Omar Kahan

457
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: and everybody assembled was here's who here's the two or

458
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Speaker 2: three names I like for my defensive coordinator. Here's here's

459
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Speaker 2: what I think about an offensive line coach, which is well,

460
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: talk about that sneaky. I think maybe one of the

461
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: most important hires for this staff. It's always the most important,

462
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: but especially when you consider a young age of this

463
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: offensive line of no doubt, so many of these got

464
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Speaker 2: the majority of these guys still on their rookie deals

465
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Speaker 2: and developing. When Mike McCarthy, though, starts to look at

466
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: this Steeler's roster and what he has in house quarterback evaluation,

467
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Speaker 2: is that job number one? I mean, where's it really

468
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Speaker 2: begin for him? When he starts looking at the tools

469
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Speaker 2: that he has here in his.

470
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Speaker 3: Toolbox, two things really stand out. And I'm gonna kind

471
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Speaker 3: of ignore the defense because I don't think there's a

472
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Speaker 3: lot changing on that side of the ball in terms

473
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Speaker 3: of personnel compared to the other side of the ball.

474
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Speaker 3: And I don't even know what scheme they're running, you know,

475
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Speaker 3: but I have a better idea what McCarthy wants to

476
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Speaker 3: run offensively. And this is going to be a challenge

477
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Speaker 3: because first off, who's my starting quarterback? Who's my future quarterback?

478
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Speaker 3: They might not be the same guy, one might not

479
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: be here till next year, but somehow you're going to

480
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Speaker 3: figure out your starter for this year or who were pursue.

481
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: But much much unlike the Arthur Smith offense, he wants

482
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Speaker 3: to run three wide m hm. And they only got

483
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Speaker 3: three on the roster right now. And I'm running out

484
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: every snap with Scornic, Roman, Wilson and Metcalf, you know.

485
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: So I think they need three receivers and a quarterback.

486
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean, those are the things those are if you're

487
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: listing just team needs wide receivers at the top of

488
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Speaker 3: the list other than quarterback and maybe his second on

489
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Speaker 3: the list.

490
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Speaker 2: And we talked about that a little bit last week

491
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Speaker 2: when we did some mock draft stuff. I think even

492
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Speaker 2: more so now first round wide receiver is on the board.

493
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Speaker 2: Take time. They haven't done that in twenty years. Since

494
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Speaker 2: Santonio Holmes was was drafted and if I'm remembering correctly, right,

495
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Speaker 2: Santonio Holmes, that sound right. I'm pretty sure years ago

496
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: he glanced at a lot of second round receivers since then,

497
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: tons of day two guys, tons of Day two guys. Okay,

498
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: but I believe Ah, wait, Mike Wallace was he was?

499
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: He third? Okay, So then yeah, I think it's I

500
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Speaker 2: think it's Antonio Holmes. I'm pretty sure I looked at

501
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 2: this on Saturday. I think it was these more recent

502
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: and plex yep, more recent complex Again, a lot of

503
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: second a lot of second rounds in that time, a

504
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: lot of Jujus and James Washington and Chase Claypool, a

505
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of second round guys.

506
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Speaker 3: Live a Swede, I would think, I don't know how

507
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: much they'll break the bank, but I bet they sign

508
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: one draft one high and then maybe if fifth.

509
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that has to be. So is

510
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: that is that.

511
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Speaker 3: There's at least one veteran, maybe even trade for one. Sure,

512
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Speaker 3: I don't sure.

513
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 2: So the job number one, I think is looking at

514
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: the personnel of the offense and filling in the gaps.

515
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: Here's how we have to attack. Here's the resources we have.

516
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: Here's the salary cap money, here's the draft capital. Here's

517
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: where we think we can identify these guys.

518
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: I need to run my scheme. But also the smart

519
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 3: coach says, how do I have to change to what's there?

520
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: Too? Absolutely, because that's I'm glad you mentioned that. So

521
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: much of it is obviously taking this ross are and

522
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: forming it into his image. Sure, but you can't accomplish

523
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 2: that all in one offseason. You can't accomplish that all

524
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: in one free agency period and draft period. It's a

525
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: it's a moving process. Yes, it's in a way, it's

526
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: a little similar, not not quite as extreme, but it's

527
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: a little similar to like you know, when a college

528
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: football coach comes in and looks and has to overhaul

529
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: the here's what the previous guy did. I got to

530
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: hit the portal, I got to hit the recruiting trail.

531
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Speaker 2: But what I really have to do is improve the

532
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: roster that I have. First and foremost, look at what

533
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Speaker 2: I have, How I get the most out of those guys,

534
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: How I marry what I do best versus what they

535
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Speaker 2: can do best.

536
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: Ingredients. These are my ingredients, and I get to go

537
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: to Giant Eagle a couple of times, but not as

538
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: many as I would like. You're right, I don't have

539
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: unlimited budget there either.

540
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Yes, So to me, I mean that that

541
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 2: has to center around the offense.

542
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: You're right, I think both tight ends. And I'm not

543
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: including Johnny. I'm talking about in Washington, the O line

544
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: as a whole, and Warren. These are guys that are

545
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: we know are back.

546
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 2: I'm like, you just got to look at that and

547
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 2: go I can work with that.

548
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: Say. That group I think is versatile enough to play

549
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: the Arthur Smith scheme as well as you know. It's

550
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: not like Jack Fraser is a really good center, but

551
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: we get rid of that dude because he's not good

552
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: for this scheme.

553
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Speaker 2: You know.

554
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Speaker 3: I think though, that whole group is pretty scheme agnostic,

555
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Any coach would be pretty

556
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Speaker 3: happy to take it like the group, you know, and

557
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: they'll make that work.

558
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that scheme agnostic.

559
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: That's maybe I heard of someone in one day and

560
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 3: just remember to put the memory back.

561
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 2: That's not bad. Yeah, that that to me is along

562
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Speaker 2: with the coaching staff. I think the most interesting part

563
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: of this we could see my you mentioned this last

564
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: week you were joking about, like, hey, maybe we'll see

565
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: the next Steelers head coach next weekend. On the sideline

566
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Speaker 2: it's a Senior Bowl wearing a Steelers hat and the Steelers.

567
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Speaker 2: You know, I I I think there's a really good

568
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 2: chance we could see Mike McCarthy down there at this

569
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl. And then it becomes a lot

570
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: of fun. What is he talking to? What wide receivers

571
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: is he talking to? Of course who on the coaching

572
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: staff is hanging out around him down there?

573
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: All that's about to be hit hard for that we're

574
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: going to talk about every day, right.

575
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's the fun kind of kind of

576
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: look ahead here if you will.

577
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: I know you put the coaching staff stuff to the side,

578
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: but I just want to make sure we mentioned it

579
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: in the first show. Since he's been hired, he has

580
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: a lot of Western PA coaching connections, oh no doubt.

581
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Speaker 2: You know.

582
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: And I don't know if he'll tap into those resources

583
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: or not, but you'll probably see a couple of folks

584
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Speaker 3: that I've worked with even you know, that are pit

585
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: guys or Western PA guys or we've been around. It

586
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't shock me if there's two or three of those

587
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: guys on the staff, maybe even a couple returning from

588
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: last year. The The other thing too, is, I know

589
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator hire is very important.

590
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: It absolute is.

591
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: But for some reason a lot of people are like

592
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: then to ask me, like, well, he better at least

593
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: hire young coordinators. I'm like, I don't care how old

594
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: his defensive coordinator is. I'd love to see a young

595
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator that might take the reins over in three years.

596
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: Dick Lebou was killing it late into his age.

597
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: I just say, if Vic Fangio says, I want to

598
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 3: come sign up with you, like sign up, he can

599
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 3: be here for ten years. Heck yeah, I don't care

600
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 3: one bit about the age of the defensive coordinator. I

601
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: just want somebody good.

602
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you, and I'm completely with you.

603
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Speaker 3: I don't know why people are so stuck on ages

604
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: of coaches.

605
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: And that's you know what, Matt. That's another thing too

606
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: that I think people should be. And again, I'm gonna

607
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: like today and tomorrow this week, I'm gonna be careful.

608
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to lecture fans.

609
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: If you hate the higher that's your that's your prerogative.

610
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: If you love the higher that's your prerogative. One thing

611
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: though that we heard a lot about, I think, particularly

612
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: in the back half of the Mike Tomlin Tenyre was

613
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: about how he doesn't have coaching staffs that are guys

614
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: get and interviewed for other jobs like bring in up

615
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: and coming talent and if you lose it in a

616
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: few years, okay, fine, that means that they did a

617
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: really good job. Sure, he's got a track record of

618
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: a lot of people who have worked under Mike McCarthy

619
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Speaker 2: end up being offensive coordinators, quarterback coaches, head coaches.

620
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: He's guys five that have become head coach.

621
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Speaker 2: He's got a lot of those around the league, and

622
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: that intrigues me from the standpoint of yes, smart people

623
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: in the league want to take your guys. Some people

624
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: smart people in the league want to take your guys.

625
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: And some of the people that he might hire might

626
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: be the Vic Fangio types that ten years from now

627
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: aren't going to be a head coaching candidate.

628
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Speaker 3: And in the NFL, I'd be thrilled if they take

629
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator like that.

630
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: They but he might also get the next Shieldhouse's who's

631
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: thirty six years old and is an up and coming

632
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: bright mind. And five years from now, that guy's forty

633
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: years old and he's your offensive coordinator, and you might

634
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: even have a succession plan in there. Yeah, Like he

635
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: I think is going to populate the staff with a

636
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: lot of guys who are going to be two, three,

637
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: four years from now, if not a candidate to replace

638
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: him here one day, get plucked, get plucked getting interviews

639
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: like I think that aspect of it's going to change

640
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: where the people who are.

641
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: Like why shows it probably why.

642
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: Aren't we having Why aren't we having these up and

643
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: coming coaches on the coaching staff? Why does it always

644
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: seem like more of the safe, established hires, you know,

645
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: the Todd Hayley the world and the you know in

646
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: the in the the Arrell Austin's of the world. Like

647
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: the more established you know, quote unquote safer hires. If

648
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: you will, I think that's gonna change for a lot

649
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: of people too.

650
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Speaker 3: I bet it will. I mentioned age. I would love

651
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Speaker 3: to see one or two very young I'm saying bright

652
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Speaker 3: offensive guys. I mean, if you could steal Shieldhouse or

653
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Speaker 3: somebody like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't want it to look like a presidential debate stage, Matt,

655
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Speaker 2: I don't want a bunch of sixty and seventy and

656
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Speaker 2: eighty year olds on there. I want some young blood

657
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: in there, please.

658
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if we'll get it or not,

659
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Speaker 3: but I'd love to have an offensive guy that's quarterback

660
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Speaker 3: coach or OC that is from a different tree totally

661
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: than McCarthy, you know what I mean, you know, just

662
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Speaker 3: especially if it's a Rams or Niners, you know, something

663
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: along those lines. But somebody that sees football differently, you know,

664
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Speaker 3: that's young and you know, really right, you know.

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Speaker 2: And he's done a good job of doing that in

666
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Speaker 2: the past, and I expect that to be the case again.

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00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: That's something that I'm going to be really excited once

668
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Speaker 2: we get to that phase and once the staff starts

669
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Speaker 2: coming together side. I just had this in my notes

670
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Speaker 2: to share at some point this week, and I feel

671
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: like there might be no better time than now. We've

672
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Speaker 2: talked a little bit about Garrett Nussmeyer in the past

673
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: quarterback with this. His father, Doug was a quarterbacks coach

674
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Speaker 2: under Mike McCarthy in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I thought this would be more of a senior Bowl.

676
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Speaker 3: Late in the week conversation.

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Speaker 2: I have probably brought it up then.

678
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Speaker 3: No, But it's interesting because I've done some more Nusts

679
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: homework just for that reason, and I believe this player

680
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: and you will probably probably remember. I mean before this season,

681
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: I think he was definitely a top fifty overall pick.

682
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Speaker 2: Oh he might have been QB two behind eighty aller. Yeah. Yeah,

683
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: like I think club Nick was behind those guys.

684
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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean if we just drafted a year.

685
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: Ago, Oh, people were saying, watch, he's about was about

686
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: to have it. She's about to have a jayde Daniels

687
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: type year and be a top ten pick and he's

688
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: gonna light it up in Brian Kelly's offense. Yeah, and

689
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: that wasn't the case.

690
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: Big arm. Yeah, I mean, like super smart, son of coach,

691
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: all those things. But this year was a disaster and

692
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: there was a lot of injuries involved, or a major

693
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: injury involved. I don't know exactly. I don't like talking medical,

694
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: but there's medical stuff and some draft knicks that I

695
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: pay attention to. And trust don't know if he'll ever

696
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: be back, you know, I mean the combine and getting

697
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: talktors on him will be super important. But I know

698
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: who will know, you know what I mean, His dad,

699
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: his dad dad, Right. But I'm just saying, if you

700
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Speaker 3: get a top fifty type prospers in the third round

701
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: because of medical concerns, and if you red shirts for

702
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: a year, yeah great.

703
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you know, like him Will Howard,

704
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: right and veteran maybe Rogers or whatever.

705
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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, So one path, I'm glad you brought

706
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: him up because that that connection is going to come

707
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Speaker 3: up over and over.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that more as we get into the

709
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Speaker 2: strop Press.

710
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Speaker 3: And I think he is a senile guy.

711
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: He is, Yes, even more so now especially I'm so

712
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: excited to talk quarterback. Like once we get into February

713
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: and I got I got one of the senior bol

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Speaker 2: I like that we have not brought up yet that like,

715
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Speaker 2: not in the around campus or anything conversations.

716
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Speaker 3: I don't think maybe his name briefly has been spoken.

717
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: Okay, when we go to break here, you tell me

718
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: who off air and we'll keep it.

719
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Speaker 3: We'll keep it. We'll keep it quiet.

720
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Speaker 2: We'll keep a quiet No one's listening, all right, quick

721
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Speaker 2: tell me no one Nathan Nathan strike this from the record.

722
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Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. Cool more on Mike McCarthy

723
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Speaker 2: some numbers that I want to get into. Matt put

724
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Speaker 2: together a Matt's Stats packet on.

725
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy Emergency, whipped it up.

726
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of a lot of emergency stuff

727
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: hapen in the last forty eight hours.

728
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Speaker 3: It's not four thousand words like the normal Matt Stats,

729
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 3: but it's it gives you a better idea of his career.

730
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Speaker 3: And especially I spent a lot of time, especially on

731
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Speaker 3: the five years he was with Dallas, because that was

732
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: the most recent stint.

733
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Speaker 2: Who did more emergency work in the last forty eight hours.

734
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Speaker 2: Steelers Media or pen Dot's snow removal employees across western Pennsylvania.

735
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Speaker 2: We got it all happening here. We're just going to

736
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: continue this conversation. We got a set list for today,

737
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: but it's really just Mike McCarthy Monday here on the Drive,

738
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Speaker 2: and that will continue as we roll along. West Shouler,

739
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

740
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, your tums.

741
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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

742
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

743
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Speaker 2: Rolling along here on the Drive on this Monday, where

744
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers and Mike McCarthy, well I guess things will

745
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: be officially official on Tuesday at two pm at that

746
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: press conference. But we know the Steelers next head coach

747
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: is a Pittsburgh native and one with plenty of NFL experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt.

749
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Speaker 2: I mentioned in the first segment the top of the show,

750
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Speaker 2: the top of the hour, two names of veteran coaches

751
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: now with their second organization who had a lot of

752
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: success this year, both who were in the AFC Championship game. Yeah,

753
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: Sean Payton and Mike Rabel. And I think you have

754
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: some research, some parallels, some thoughts on how this There

755
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: might be something that you can deduce. There might be

756
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 2: some trends to follow there for the Steelers and Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So one of the things I didn't love when

758
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: I got the news was why, now, you know, why

759
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 3: are you doing this on Saturday before the championship weekend?

760
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: When why not talk to the two Rams guys?

761
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: You announced this on Wednesday of next week?

762
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, get him in here in person. Who

763
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: knows is there really a rush or there are a

764
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: million teams banging down McCarthy's door, And if they are,

765
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: is at the Browns and you'd beat them for him anyways,

766
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: you know, and my hunches hit picked here over any

767
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 3: opening anyways, I would and it's the hometown thing.

768
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

769
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Speaker 3: But then I started thinking about it, and I'm like,

770
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 3: in reality, they only brought in two other candidates, both

771
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: of whom helped them hit the Rooney Rule situation. And

772
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Speaker 3: Weaver or maybe could even be the defensive coordinator.

773
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Speaker 2: Who knows. I mean, maybe they had that conversation with

774
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: him when he was here last that would I signed

775
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: me up?

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00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Not that they weren't in the running, but

777
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: I wondered, did they have their set their heart set

778
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: on McCarthy all along. You know, he's established and he

779
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: can get us a quarterback, keep us competitive.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a real chance that was the case.

781
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: And the more I think it through after the fact,

782
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: I bet that was the case. Like, we're pretty shocked

783
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: he's even an option. You know, he's coming off a

784
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: year sitting out. Usually those guys get scooped up or

785
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: somewhere else. And then I started thinking of coaching parallels,

786
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's kind of like when Sean Payton

787
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: sat out a year, but Denver at the time had

788
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: to give up a first round pick in More to

789
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Speaker 3: get their guy, and so I'm like, I wonder what

790
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: their resumes were like the just hired Sean Payton in

791
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Speaker 3: Denver versus this version of McCarthy, because I'm like, they

792
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: both had won a Super Bowl, MVP style quarterbacks and

793
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: Rogers and Breeze offensive minds way Willer wins then losses

794
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: pretty high up on the all time win list. And

795
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Speaker 3: I don't have it in front of me, but I asked.

796
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: I got lazy, and I stood on Twitter.

797
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, someone ai this for me or whatever.

798
00:37:53,760 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: And figured out whatever it is whatever. If I don't understand,

799
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: that makes me feel like a boomer when I hear

800
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: people talking about it.

801
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, good, it really makes me too. I'm like, can

802
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 3: someone tell me the exact resume of Peyton the day

803
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: he was traded for and McCarthy now and they're almost identical,

804
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: almost identical now. I think Peyton at the time was

805
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: considered probably a little more advanced as a offensive mine

806
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: and he's really considered one of the best ever. He

807
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: really really is sure And I don't know Sean Payton,

808
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 3: but I also will say Sean Payton is also well more.

809
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: I know this is well more interested in his public

810
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: image too, so he's a little better at pumping his

811
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: own tires. So people might.

812
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: Look, I think that's a very nice way for you

813
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: to put that. As someone someone who's never been a

814
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: fan of Sean Payton, I'm gonna steal that going for it.

815
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So maybe he's regarded in a public opinion slightly

816
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: ahead of where McCarthy now versus where Peyton that.

817
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: Real quick, you could probably go back and find old

818
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: Steelers blitz shows of Motes and I when McCarthy was

819
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: with the Packers at the end of his tenure, where

820
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: McCarthy and Mike Tomlin were getting crushed by the national media, okay,

821
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Speaker 2: and Sean Payton was skating by. It was like McCarthy

822
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Speaker 2: and Tomlin, they came, they kick and Peyton's going seven

823
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: to nine, back to back seasons in New Orleans, right,

824
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Speaker 2: having worse years, having worse years, And I'm like, Tomlin's

825
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: been to multiple Super Bowls, you know, Like I'm like McCarthy,

826
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Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. He's got Aaron Rodgers, like

827
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Speaker 2: I understand.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Payton's.

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Speaker 2: In a worst division than both of those two. He's

830
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Speaker 2: got the dream, he's got the Hall of Fame quarterback,

831
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Speaker 2: just like those two. He just went seven and nine

832
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: two years in a row, like what I used to

833
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: that used to be one of my pet peeves five

834
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: years ago. That like the fingers, the things that Mike

835
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Speaker 2: Tomlin and Mike McCarthy, and I'm not even saying that

836
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: they were wrong to be criticized for. Oh no, that's

837
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: Sean Payton always escaped that criticism.

838
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Speaker 3: He knows how to play the media.

839
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Speaker 2: He sure, he sure does. Absolutely, It's a phenomenal coach,

840
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. But I'm not a.

841
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: Fan and a lot of people aren't personality wise too,

842
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: which this is not about Sean Payton, but my point is,

843
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: and they're not one for one, they're different human beings,

844
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Speaker 3: but they're very similar in terms of what they've accomplished.

845
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Speaker 3: The day they went to this new team, and for

846
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Speaker 3: anyone that's been living on the moon, Sean Payton was

847
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: alive until about twenty four hours ago. He was a

848
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Speaker 3: Final Four team that took over a bad situation.

849
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Speaker 2: If they played with a dome in Denver, mad he

850
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: might still be playing. He'll playing.

851
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: So his situation that he took over was much worse

852
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: than the one McCarthy's inheriting. Not only did I mean

853
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 3: McCarthy has a lot of quarterback questions, but he didn't

854
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Speaker 3: have the anchor of Russ's contract and dead money and

855
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: all that stuff. At least it's a clean slate here

856
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position, and the supporting cast is way better,

857
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: and it didn't cost you a first round pick that

858
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: you couldn't use to help your team, and multiple other

859
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: picks to get a similar type guy. I guess my

860
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: point is, if folks, if they would have hired Sean Payton,

861
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Speaker 3: would you be feeling exactly the same way as they

862
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: are now? I bet you the answer is no.

863
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: If they would hire Sean Payton, I'd have to go

864
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Speaker 2: back and strike a lot from the record.

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Speaker 3: Me too, Yeah, I think there's a distinct parallel though.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the tail to tape, it is

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Speaker 2: almost it's crazy, it's almost creepy, it's almost really it's

868
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Speaker 2: almost eerie, not Pennsylvania eerie, but like but spooky eerie.

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Speaker 2: How similar they are one hundred and fifty eight when

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00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: they got when they got hired, So Wayne Peyton got

871
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: hired by Deniver McCarthy. Now one hundred and fifty two

872
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: wins for Peyton one hundred and seventy four from Mike McCarthy.

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00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: Both have above sixty winning percentages for their career sixty

874
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: one for McCarthy sixty three for Payton. Both have the

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00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: one Super Bowl and the one Super Bowl appearance. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you get saying. Peyton was nine to eight in the

877
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Speaker 2: playoffs before his Denver tenure. Mike McCarthy's eleven and eleven

878
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: conference title games Peyton three. McCarthy four double digit win

879
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: seasons as a head coach, Peyton nine, McCarthy ten hiatus

880
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: period one year for Sean Payton doing Fox, one year

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00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: for Mike McCarthy doing ESPN. And get this, Matt, I

882
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: just looked this up thirty seconds ago. This is creepy.

883
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: Those two were born a month apart.

884
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 3: Really, I'm not sure who's older.

885
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 2: I was. Actually Dorthy is older by about six weeks.

886
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 3: By about six weeks.

887
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: McCarthy was born in November of sixty three.

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00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 3: They're both offensive guys. You know, this is so weird.

889
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: McCarthy was born in November of sixty three, Peyton December

890
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 2: sixty three. Wow, Okay, that is now. McCarthy was born

891
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Peyton was born in California. I think

892
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: you can see the differences in their personalities. And one

893
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: is a Elfish West Coast boy, the other is a

894
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: well raised Western Pennsylvanian, just like the rest of us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you remember at the time that is

896
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: that they make the trade, they give up a ton

897
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: Denver new ownership, the Walmart people take over.

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00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 3: Boy, what an amazing guy to get this thing back

900
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 3: on track to where Denver should be back in the

901
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: lway years and find your next quarterback and all those things.

902
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened for Denver with the mid round,

903
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: first round quarterback and Nicks and you know, really good

904
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: construction by Peyton and company. And again they're not the

905
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: same human being. But why is this any different in

906
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Speaker 3: terms of perception.

907
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Speaker 2: Did Peyton have Nicks right away or was there a

908
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 2: year gap there?

909
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a year gap. He had to live a

910
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 3: year with Ross and Limbo's right. Then they set Ross

911
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: at the end of the year. So Nix is in

912
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: his second year, Peyton's in his third.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you know what, I know we have to

914
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Speaker 2: get the break here in just a minute. I want

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00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: to follow up on that a little bit because he

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00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 2: was like the fifteenth pick of the That's exactly where

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Speaker 2: I was going with this, And I think if you

918
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Speaker 2: look ahead, not this year's draft, but potentially to twenty seven,

919
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: it could be one of those years where there's some

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00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: five quarterbacks taken in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you have to spin your wheels as a coach

922
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: for one year, establish a culture, build a nest, and

923
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Speaker 3: then boom that.

924
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Speaker 2: Gives someone like a Will Howard or Nussmeyer a shot

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00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: at it and see where you're at, and see where

926
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: you're at, and go get Nicks or May. Okay, let's

927
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Speaker 2: look at some of those quarterback parallels when we come

928
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Speaker 2: back to start hour number two is eerie.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty dead on.

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Speaker 2: Not erie, Pennsylvania up the road on seventy nine. That's

931
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: the craziest. I was born in November of sixty three.

932
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Speaker 2: The other was born in December of sixty three. That's

933
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Speaker 2: a wild Let's talk a little bit more about some

934
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: of those parallels. I think, particularly at the quarterback situation

935
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Speaker 2: an hour two. We also need to dive into your

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy stats packet for some more numbers, and then

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00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: at some point Matt before we get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I know it's Mike McCarthy Monday, but we do need

939
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: to spend just a few minutes on those conference championship

940
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: games from yesterday before sure, before we get out, there's

941
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Speaker 2: a little bit of coaching news around the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll do. We'll do, obviously more than anybody

943
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: wants to coach the Brown.

944
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: I will coach the Brown if you if you want to,

945
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: if you want to give me that job and then

946
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: buy me out in two years from now. Hey, should

947
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: or Sanders is a Pro Bowl quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Now I can work the Bowl, right, They got the

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Speaker 3: thing all fixed up.

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Speaker 2: Hour in the books, Another hour to go here on

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,