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Speaker 2: I knocked over a headset? A headset?

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, okay, welcome to Sauce on the Side. Episode something.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is. Today we have a guest.

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Speaker 1: Even though people tell us all the time they really

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Speaker 1: or family. I find that fascinating. But like, okay, I

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Speaker 2: I like when you have guests.

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Speaker 1: I like a combo. I honestly wish that you guys

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Speaker 1: would just sit in here when I had guests and

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Speaker 1: also interview them with me and ask the questions you

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask. I don't know why we don't do

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Speaker 1: it that way. And like usually I just say, Diamond,

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Speaker 1: do you have something to ask? And you'll yell it

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Speaker 1: from a corner. But I would like you to be

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Speaker 1: you guys have a lot of really interesting stuff to

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Speaker 1: say that maybe you don't get in there all the time.

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Speaker 1: Like today we've got Jeremy Piven. You know who Jeremy

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Speaker 1: Piven is.

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Speaker 2: I do, but I don't think I know enough to

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Speaker 2: have a question for him that like it's super interesting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like the way it's, well, at

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Speaker 1: see so many people do it the opposite way, where

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Speaker 1: they're like, these are the questions I'm going to ask,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter if he talked about his mother dying,

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Speaker 1: this is my next question, right, yeah, we're not going

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Speaker 2: Well, how do you know nowadays these publicists and stuff

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Speaker 2: are They probably were doing it back in the day too,

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Speaker 2: but they like want to approve questions and like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that though, well, no, you definitely we've.

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Speaker 1: Gone down some murky paths with that one on.

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Speaker 2: But like, how do they expect for like interviews to

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Speaker 2: why did we as an industry start leaning into that

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Speaker 1: So I think that's actually a very and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying this in like a shitty way that it's going

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Speaker 1: to come out. I know how it's going to sound,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's a very small market way of

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Speaker 1: they'll be like, please get that out of my face.

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to do that good. Absolutely not. But

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Speaker 1: there are other people who want the interviews so badly

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Speaker 1: And then we get to say, oh my god, we

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Speaker 1: I just think that that's such a bummer way to

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Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I don't like to do it that way,

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Speaker 1: but I wholeheartedly understand why people do, because you also

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure where I stand on that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess my thing is like say you, I

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Speaker 2: and then you start your platform starts to grow. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when is the time that you decide that you're not

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Speaker 1: That's a great question, because I think we've been down

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Speaker 1: this path. We've had people come in here. I won't

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Speaker 1: that you're not here to talk about this giant controversy

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Speaker 1: that happened seventeen years ago in your life. You're here

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Speaker 1: to talk about the thing that you're promoting right now.

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Speaker 1: We have had somebody come back and say we want

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Speaker 1: It'll be part of my tell all when I get fired, inevitably. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You say you're going to get fired.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, huh, I think we're all going to get fired.

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Speaker 2: I think, oh, I'm sure I've already been fired once. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: For that so they'll never hire them again. Was more

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Speaker 2: Well I wish I knew it was seasonal, temporary position.

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Speaker 1: Wish they didn't tell you. Yeah. So I think that

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Speaker 2: You know how people get laid off and then they

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Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent positive. I say this and

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Speaker 1: laugh all the time, but I'm gonna say it not

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Speaker 2: Do you just say like nice things about me? Because

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Speaker 2: I'm nervous about everybody? So tell all.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling all the good and all the bad or

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Speaker 1: what I'll say again and again. This place doesn't really

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know it all.

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Speaker 1: See you. I would like to enlist you in helping

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Speaker 2: Please please just give me a percentage and I'm great.

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Speaker 1: Who okay? Who on the show? You don't have to

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Speaker 1: has the craziest Like if people found these things out,

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Speaker 2: With rhymes with see Okay. There are two people that

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Speaker 1: I think the serial killer thing came from a place

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Speaker 1: See, that's why I try to just in life in general,

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Speaker 1: I just want you to all know that the bar

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Speaker 2: What do you think is the most embarrassing thing that

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Speaker 1: I can't talk about why it's embarrassing, but it is

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Speaker 2: Apparently that story precedes you. I know. I love that

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine don't love that for me? Because the

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Speaker 2: But then it's a it's a conversation starter. So like,

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Speaker 1: Care that I care about the not true story that

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Speaker 1: what actually happened is it was a very extended makeout

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: The story that precedes me is that we were like

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Speaker 1: of these things I wish. I wish I could talk

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Speaker 2: Ten out of ten, ten out of ten can't talk

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Speaker 1: I love your most embarrassing moment. I know we've sort

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've had a lot of embarrassing moments,

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Speaker 3: know what. The great thing about complaining is tell me nothing,

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Speaker 3: You're Sony Hall on Sunday eight o'clock. Sony Hall is

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Speaker 3: You know, you're you. You come from gurus, and I

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Speaker 1: Out about this. This is good, This is a fun gig.

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Speaker 1: I just appreciated.

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Speaker 3: No, No, no, I can't. I can't go there because

436
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Speaker 3: I study the Kabbala, which is I think, a beautiful

437
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 3: form and of spirituality, and one of the things is

438
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Speaker 3: to really words are powerful, and I was gonna get

439
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: I was going to juxtapose some things, and it might

440
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Speaker 3: sound like I was being negative, and I'm not even

441
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Speaker 3: going to go there. I do go there on stage

442
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,239
Speaker 3: because the goal is to be funny and there's no

443
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Speaker 3: judgment on stage. So that's that's one of these zones where,

444
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Speaker 3: like you know, you can you can't second guess yourself

445
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Speaker 3: or think, oh, okay, how is this going to land?

446
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Speaker 3: Am I going to offend anyone? You just kind of

447
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Speaker 3: go for it, which which is another gift, you know,

448
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Speaker 3: And I love it. And I've seen people out there

449
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: folding their arms and just furious at me and while

450
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 3: laughing at the same time. So it's like you think

451
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Speaker 3: I'm offending you, but you're laughing because we're having a

452
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Speaker 3: shared experience as human beings where what I'm saying is

453
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Speaker 3: reaching you and something is true about what I'm saying,

454
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Speaker 3: even though you think you're mad at me, if that

455
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Speaker 3: makes any sense.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, when it comes to stand up comedy again being

457
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, mildly terrifying, and you've done this, you

458
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Speaker 1: venture into it. Yeah, how much did you practice before

459
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Speaker 1: you actually went on stage? And have you bombed yet?

460
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Speaker 1: Stand up comic is absolutely okay.

461
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Speaker 3: Chappelle said to me, Man, I had a bombed that

462
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Speaker 3: I ran into him. He goes, you all right, and

463
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Speaker 3: I go, yeah, man, I'm good. A bomb last night.

464
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Speaker 3: He goes, dude, you got a bomb, but you have

465
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Speaker 3: to bomb at the right time. And he's right. And

466
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Speaker 3: even even Chappelle to this day, he's the he's the

467
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Speaker 3: youngest old comic in the game. He started at fourteen,

468
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Speaker 3: so you know, I think he's been on stage almost

469
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Speaker 3: forty years, which is insane if you think about that.

470
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Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, you know, you get paid, like

471
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Speaker 3: he says, you get paid for the attempt like evil

472
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Speaker 3: and evil. So yeah, there, listen. I I there were

473
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Speaker 3: a lot of different turns that I got to skip.

474
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Speaker 3: But when you say skip, it's like I didn't skip

475
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Speaker 3: anything as an actor. In fact, starting at eight years

476
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Speaker 3: old and grinding the entire time and never making more

477
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Speaker 3: than fifty dollars a week ever as a stage actor,

478
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Speaker 3: and then you know, and staying in Chicago and having

479
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Speaker 3: a theater company and not going to LA until I

480
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Speaker 3: was brought out with a job was my plan and

481
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Speaker 3: that you know, thank god, it all kind of came

482
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Speaker 3: to fruition, but so I paid my dues. I won

483
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Speaker 3: the Fresh Face of the Year at forty years old.

484
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Speaker 3: I swear to you for entourage, and I said, thank

485
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Speaker 3: you so much for this award. There's nothing fresh about

486
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Speaker 3: my face, but thank you. So yeah, I mean, I

487
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Speaker 3: was thirty two years into the game and won the

488
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Speaker 3: overnight success, so I know what it's like to grind.

489
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Speaker 3: And so with stand Up, you know, I do five day,

490
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Speaker 3: eight shows a week, two hundred plus shows a year.

491
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Speaker 3: So that's what I do, and that's what you have

492
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Speaker 3: to do in order to work on your highest level.

493
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Speaker 3: So I in the beginning and still do we'd go

494
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Speaker 3: to these dive bars and get up there and you know,

495
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Speaker 3: there's a handful of people in the audience and they're

496
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Speaker 3: all on their phone and they're waiting for the DJ.

497
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Speaker 3: And it's the toughest, heaviest lifting you're gonna get. And

498
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Speaker 3: that's you know, So I remember bombing so badly on

499
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Speaker 3: stage that I was starting. Your body. You start, you

500
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Speaker 3: start panicking and you can't breathe, and your body's going

501
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Speaker 3: just get off stage. You need oxygen. This is not

502
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Speaker 3: a safe space. Get out. And if you can work

503
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Speaker 3: through that, and then you start doubting, your brain just

504
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: starts working against you. Not only your brain is going,

505
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Speaker 3: oh no, you're not funny. And by the way, you've

506
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Speaker 3: never been funny ever.

507
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Speaker 1: So it's like a devil and a devil on your shoulder.

508
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's it's like a devil inside a devil. It's yeah,

509
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Speaker 3: it's like a little Russian toy of devils. No, what

510
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: happens is you got to go the other direction. Instead

511
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: of wrapping it up, you have to go you have

512
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Speaker 3: to stay in it and dig your way out, and

513
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Speaker 3: it's terrifying. But once you do that, and then and

514
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: then you realize Okay, I'm just going to admit what's

515
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Speaker 3: happening right now, and then you start speaking about the

516
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Speaker 3: truth of what's happening at this moment. You know, they

517
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Speaker 3: say the end of the road for actors is dinner theater.

518
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Speaker 3: That's not the end of the road. This is the

519
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Speaker 3: end of the road right here. I need to crawl

520
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Speaker 3: back into the womb and start this life again. You guys,

521
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Speaker 3: I don't you know. And then they start looking up

522
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: and you start getting them, and you start, you know,

523
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Speaker 3: and suddenly you're like, oh, okay. Then there's a little

524
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Speaker 3: crack of light. I'm getting them. I'm getting them. And

525
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: then once you get them and you've dug your way

526
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Speaker 3: out of that hole. Man, the next time you get

527
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 3: on stage, you're like, oh, I've already seen the darkness.

528
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Speaker 3: This nothing can compare to that. You know, a couple

529
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: people in a dive bar hating you. I remember the

530
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Speaker 3: first time I got up, I said, you guys are

531
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: probably wondering what I'm doing here, And some comic in

532
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: the back goes, yeah, man, what the fuck are you

533
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: doing here? And I was like, oh my god, this

534
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Speaker 3: is the happiest place on earth. This is Disneyland. Hi everyone.

535
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: You know, you just got to like use it. You

536
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: just use it, and then they see you using it.

537
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: And also they can sense your vibration, and the highest

538
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: vibration is authenticity. So if you're authentic, you're going to

539
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Speaker 3: get them. Welcome to my ted talk and listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking notes because I have set a couple of

541
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Speaker 1: goals for the next year year and a half, and

542
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Speaker 1: one of them is I want to do a stand

543
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Speaker 1: of routine one time somewhere. You have talked me into

544
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Speaker 1: it and out of it a few times during all

545
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Speaker 1: of this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So all I'll say to you is grab your

547
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: friends and just keep running your jokes to them organically,

548
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: and if it hits, it hits, keep it going. And

549
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 3: put yourself in awkward situations during my life every day. Yeah,

550
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Speaker 3: don't shy away from a situations so that by the

551
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 3: time you get up there, it's like you've at least

552
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: walked through it, so it's you're not just gonna be

553
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Speaker 3: overwhelmed by the moment.

554
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Speaker 1: So what makes me nervous is this, And I imagine

555
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: you probably dealt with this slightly. I have a lot

556
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Speaker 1: of friends who are in the comic world who are

557
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: some underground comedians, some established comedians, and all of them

558
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: are like, if you don't pay your dues, they're gonna

559
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: shit on you. They are gonna say this girl came

560
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: from radio, she just stepped into this.

561
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they're all gonna say that.

562
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is true for sure.

563
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Speaker 3: They're all going to say that.

564
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Speaker 1: But here not at all.

565
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: When you started, oh, one thousand percent. But I was

566
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: very lucky because I've been through so much and I'm

567
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 3: so grateful for all of it that I really understand

568
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: that what they say or what they feel about you

569
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 3: is not your concern at all. As nothing that's not

570
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: needed information at all. So whatever they say is great.

571
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: And by the way, they're all coming from a different

572
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: place as well, their pain, they're hurt, their unhealed trauma, whatever.

573
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: They're going to dump it all on you, but that's

574
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Speaker 3: not your concern.

575
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Speaker 1: How long did it take you to get there?

576
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Speaker 3: That's a good question. How long did it take me

577
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: to get that? Oh my god? Uh, I would say

578
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Speaker 3: thirty seven years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, and I'm asking that because you have spanned decades.

580
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Speaker 1: You've been in this business for a long time. You

581
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Speaker 1: said you started when you were eight. You got a

582
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Speaker 1: Fresh Pace Award when you were forty. Yeah, and you're

583
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: still going and doing this. And from the time you

584
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: started till now things have changed durstically. There used to

585
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Speaker 1: be a time when you didn't necessarily have to hear

586
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Speaker 1: what other people thought of you. You didn't have to

587
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: see it written down. Now we have social media. Now

588
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: it's in your hand, you know what.

589
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Speaker 3: It's It's so funny you say that, you're absolutely right.

590
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: And as I was walking over here the thirty eight

591
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: minute walk from because I looked at my photos, like,

592
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Speaker 3: if I get out and run and walk, I'll make

593
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Speaker 3: it there in time. But I was thinking about this

594
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: on the way over here, that you're absolutely right. There's

595
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: a huge variable going on right now. That is, we

596
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: all have access to each other, and we have access

597
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: to a lot of information and disinformation more than before.

598
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Speaker 3: And I just Michael Jordan popped into my head and

599
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, growing up in Chicago and watching

600
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: him play, and he's the greatest of all time and

601
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: it was before social media. So he is this kind

602
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: of icon that is different than anything today for many reasons.

603
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: His play that will like no other, six appearances in

604
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Speaker 3: the in the Championship and went six for six, and

605
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if it'll ever be matched what he did.

606
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: But also because we just don't have a lot of

607
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: information on him, because it was before social media, where

608
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: you know, I walk out right here and you know,

609
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: I almost get hit by a car. Whatever you're gonna

610
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna have that video immediately. Everything is documented. So

611
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: so I think there's an added level that we're all

612
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: navigating right now that's in people's heads, even athletes, you

613
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: know where they're You know, the goal is to get

614
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Speaker 3: out of your own head and be in the moment

615
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: and get in the zone. That is the goal for

616
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: all of us, no matter if you're a creative entity

617
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: or an athlete. But if you're thinking about all that

618
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: other stuff, I think it's just an added level of

619
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Speaker 3: difficulty to drop all of that and don't worry about

620
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: what people say, what the comments are, any of that

621
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Speaker 3: stuff doesn't concern you. If you make stuff that makes

622
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: you laugh, and that's all that matters. You don't do

623
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Speaker 3: it for them. You do it for yourself and they'll

624
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: sense your authenticity and it'll all work out.

625
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Speaker 1: So you don't look at the comment section. Are you

626
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: on social media?

627
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Speaker 2: I am, Yeah, you behind it.

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Speaker 3: It's a little blue check Jeremy Piven my Instagram, Jeremyslashpivot

629
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Speaker 3: dot com for tickets, Sony Hall, You're welcome this weekend,

630
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: this weekend Sunday. And uh yeah, you will definitely see

631
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Speaker 3: me in my element. Everything that I've ever done will

632
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: be up on that stage. And and I talk about

633
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: being on sets, I do impressions, I do observational stuff.

634
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: So I touch on everything that you can do and

635
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: stand up. Uh and and I absolutely love it. And

636
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm all over the map. But yeah, and doing lines

637
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Speaker 3: with my mom, I mean running lines. Don't do lines

638
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: with your mom, kid, I run lines, run lines. I

639
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: read lines with her Azari Gold, and I unpack all

640
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 3: that what it's like to just go on these Ti

641
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: raids and you know, swear in your mother's face. And

642
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: she was totally in the pocket. She's an actor, director,

643
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: teacher and never flinched ever. And her notes to me

644
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: is Ari Golder, just wild. And so I unpack all

645
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: of that on stage and it's it's just a gift.

646
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, people want to know how much

647
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: you really like Ari, which is, in other words, how

648
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: much of an asshole are you really and what this

649
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: show is. It is just me. This isn't a fictional character.

650
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: I'm not speaking to someone else's words. It's all coming

651
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: from me. And people say to me, we didn't know

652
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: you were this funny when they see me, which is

653
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: a backhanded compliment.

654
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: Great, you will take that. How much of you do

655
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: you think is an asshole? I won't say ari, because

656
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: I would imagine that some of you. I see that

657
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: you're almost joking.

658
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to just spit. Take good work. There

659
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: you go.

660
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: How much of an asshole do you think you really

661
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: are when people see you on public so they approach

662
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: and say hi and take a picture with you? Or

663
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: would you rather not not happen?

664
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: You know?

665
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: My biggest challenge to be honest with you is I

666
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: get angry, like I'm hungry right now, I haven't eat

667
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 3: I haven't eaten, and I'm having one of these moments.

668
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: I did Monday Night Football last night, that the Countdown

669
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: with Jason Kelsey and the Boys, Ryan Clark and those guys,

670
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: and it was an absolute honor to chop it up

671
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: with them. And then my Bears played and we won

672
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: and the game, yeah, the game ended at a million

673
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: o'clock as you know. And then I got anewber and

674
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: came here and I'm starving and I'm on the street.

675
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: I have to watch it. That's when I have to work.

676
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: The hardest is when I'm angry. So that's probably the

677
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: when I'm most like Ari Gold if I haven't eaten.

678
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: I mean, unlike your great grandfather. I don't think I

679
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: could do a hunger strike.

680
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Nor could I. I can hanger too, DOMI can attest

681
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: to it. Not the nicest one.

682
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: See there, there's so much comedy you could you can

683
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: you can just lean into that that you just you could.

684
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: You could do it a tight twelve minutes of just

685
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: your stuff on your grandfather and misconceptions.

686
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, I wonder with you though, when you I

687
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: wasn't even going to bring up Ari Gold because I

688
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: imagine for you that has to get kind of annoying

689
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: after a while, that people keep wanting to talk to

690
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: you about something that you have maybe put behind him.

691
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: No, No, look, look, the reality is I used to

692
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 3: get angry that people confuse me for him, because the

693
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: reality is Ari Gold exists. His name is Ari Emanuel.

694
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: He is you know, Mark Wahlberg's agent. He runs Endeavor

695
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: and he owns the UFC WWE and he's going to

696
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: own the world, and he's a great businessman and that's

697
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: exactly who he is. He was my agent and I'm

698
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: a stage actor from Chicago. So when you confuse the two,

699
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: it used to make me angry, and then you grow

700
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 3: up and you go, Okay, I've been in these people's

701
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: living rooms for decades, pouring my soul into my work

702
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: and they're confused. That's not I can't get angry at that.

703
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: A good job, yeah, I did a good job, and

704
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: they're confusing me.

705
00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: Now.

706
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: The irony is in other countries. When I go to

707
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: the UK, excuse me, mister Piffin, I have to say,

708
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: do you have a moment? Sir? Yeah, So, like they

709
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: call me by my name, you know, and and it's

710
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: just they see me. Their reference for actors is you've

711
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: been to drama school, which I have went to NYU

712
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: and everywhere else and I've been grinding and that's a character.

713
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: That's their reference here. It's I re you douchebag.

714
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: Bro.

715
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: Let's take a pick. Bro, take a pick.

716
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: Bro.

717
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: I'm a douchebag because of you, bro. Like that's what

718
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: it is here. And you have to go oh God, okay,

719
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: let's go, and you're at the Urino and your pants

720
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: are down and it's awkward, but you just got to

721
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: play through.

722
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: Man.

723
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: So the fandom here, you would say, is definitely different

724
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: than it is overseas. Why do you think that is?

725
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: Uh, that's a great question. I uh, you know, I

726
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: can only theorize because I'm not I'm you know, I'm

727
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: not other people, so I don't know what's going on

728
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: with them. Whatever I did, and my mother warned me.

729
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: She I remember she was running lines with me for

730
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: the pilot of Entourage, and she knows how much I commit.

731
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: She put me on stage at eight years old, and

732
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: so she, uh, she said, you know, people she watched

733
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: me play this, and she goes, oh, they're gonna think

734
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 3: you are this character. And I was like, way, she

735
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: goes yeah, and she was right. And I was like, Mom,

736
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: you're a lunatic, you're delusional. And she was right. She

737
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: was right because she knows how much I commit. And

738
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: so that's just life, man, that's life.

739
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there are worse problems to have, for sure.

740
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: There were. There are definitely worse problems to have. And

741
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: you know there are people out there you know the

742
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: I don't mind being mistaken at all. The variable for

743
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: me is if I I love to work, I love

744
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: to act, and if you don't want to hire me

745
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 3: because you think that's the only gear I have. We've

746
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: all got YouTube. I played the gay Versaci salesman in

747
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Rush Hour, so I played Lloyd before Lloyd and then

748
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: played Ai. So I mean, you know you want to

749
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 3: talk about range, And then I went right into mister

750
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 3: Selfridge that I shot for four years on PBS, where

751
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, and by the way,

752
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: it's led me to this moment where for fifteen years

753
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: I've been putting together this movie called The Performance, where

754
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: I play a Jewish tap dancer. My mom gave me

755
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: a short story out of The New Yorker that Arthur

756
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: Miller wrote, and I had my sister adapted. I got

757
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: the rights from his daughter, Rebecca Miller, who's married to

758
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: Daniel day Lewis, and I got the rights from her,

759
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: and she was kind enough to give it to me.

760
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: And it took us fifteen years to make this film

761
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: and find the money and we're done and we'll release

762
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: it soon. And it's the best work of my life

763
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: by far, and you'll see it. So it took me,

764
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: you know, like you can rail against the universe for

765
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: being misunderstood, or you can take matters into your own hands.

766
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: And that's what I did. And so you know, my

767
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 3: sister directed the hell out of it, and she adapted

768
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: it brilliantly. And I learned tap from a tap teacher. Here,

769
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 3: one of the best tappers in the world, Jared Grimes,

770
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: who's a New York ey' is on Broadway and he's

771
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: just incredible, and he had patience with me and taught

772
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: me out of tap. And every year I heard no,

773
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: they're not going to fund the film, I just got

774
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: better at tap until we made the film. And it's

775
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: the best work of my life. And it shows you

776
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: the absurdity of anti semitism or racism, and it does

777
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: it in such a way that only storytelling and film

778
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: can do. So I'm very proud of it. No one's

779
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: going to come to save you. You have to save yourself.

780
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: And so when people are like, isn't he just ari,

781
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: It's like, here's the performance and not just selfishly showing

782
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: my It's a story that I've waited my whole life

783
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: to tell. Because I play a character that hides his

784
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: identity for momentum and success, And so it's about how

785
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: much of yourself will you compromise for success? Which everyone

786
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: can relate to. And I'm willing to hide the fact

787
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: that I'm Jewish and dance for Hitler in nineteen thirty seven. Wow,

788
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: So it's heavy.

789
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: Do you feel you've hidden parts of yourself to be

790
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: successful in Hollywood up till now?

791
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: Compromise? I think the message is how much of yourself

792
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: will you compromise? Yeah? And you know, it's interesting because

793
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: you asked a great question. You know, how long did

794
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: it take you to kind of evolve and stop being

795
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: petty and stop be you know, taking things seriously or personally, yeah.

796
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: Stop listing to other people? How long does that take you?

797
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think one of one of the turning point

798
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: moments in my life was when I was auditioning. I

799
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: wanted it so badly and I had so much rejection,

800
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: and then once I realized, oh, okay, if I just

801
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: go in there and do my thing and that that's

802
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: the completion of the mission. What they think, whether they

803
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: hire me or not, that has nothing to do with me.

804
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: And I don't care because I'm going to give everything

805
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: I have walk in there because they can smell desperation.

806
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: It's a vibration. So if you're like God and I

807
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: really want this shop, guys, really, it's like you get away,

808
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So I just I'm just

809
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: gonna go in there and give it. I was always

810
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: off book, always you go in because I can't be

811
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: the guy with the script in my hand. I got

812
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: to like dig in so and even then I wouldn't

813
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: get the roles. So so that turning point moment of like,

814
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: I put everything into it. If you like it, great,

815
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: I'll see you guys soon. If not, take care, it's

816
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: all good. No desperation, and that energy trans transform my life.

817
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: The law of attraction, right, what you put out is

818
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: what you get back? Very important. What about roles that

819
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: you actually got? You performed, the piece is finished. Have

820
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: you looked back at any and thought, shit, I wish

821
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: I didn't do that one, or didn't like the way

822
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: that it came out.

823
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 3: Oh, you know there's that. That's a that's the metaphor

824
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: for life. Yeah, because you can't regret anything ever, you know, Uh,

825
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: it's an experience. It made it made me better.

826
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: You know.

827
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: I did a movie called So Undercover with Miley Cyrus

828
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: that I guarantee you haven't seen. But these two little

829
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: kids came up to me the other day and they

830
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: were so excited, you know, because they're huge Miley Cyrus fans,

831
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: and you know, they get to see the guy who

832
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 3: was in a Miley Cyrus movie. And it was really

833
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: cute and I touched their lives and you know, was

834
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: it the best work of my life?

835
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: No?

836
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: But by the way, I never phoned it in. If

837
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: you were to go watch that movie, it's me digging in.

838
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 3: I dig in no matter what I'm in, I'm not

839
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: going to phone it in. So I'm going to give

840
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: everything that I have to a fault.

841
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: So on that note, then, when you're digging in and

842
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: you're giving it everything to a fault, are there roles

843
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: that you've played that have changed you as a person

844
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: because you gave so much to it?

845
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: Oh? One thousand percent the performance that I told you about.

846
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: I had a reviewer, this very kind woman who's been

847
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 3: in the game forever, older old school icon and she said,

848
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: you know this is going to change your life. And

849
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: I said what she goes, you know it's going to

850
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: be different now and your choices will be different, and

851
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: you have to do you understand that, right, And I

852
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: think what she meant by that was this one meant

853
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: so much to me. And I knew that if I

854
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: could pull this one scene off in the movie where

855
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: I confront this Nazi and by the way, we're shooting

856
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: in Slovakia, which is the first place they sold the

857
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: Jews out and put them on trains, and I'm playing

858
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: opposite this guy in a real Nazi uniform and he's

859
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: digging in is in the great Robert Carlisle and it

860
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: was so brilliant, and I'm just having this incredible moment

861
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: with him, and it's just there's no escaping it. It's

862
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: I knew that if we didn't get that scene right,

863
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 3: the movie wouldn't work and the message wouldn't be crystallized,

864
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: and it was all for nothing. So you know, you

865
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: do everything you can and then you're as present as

866
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: you possible, and then you leave it up.

867
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: You know, you.

868
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: Just do everything you can and you have to let

869
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: go of control. And we got lucky and he's a genius,

870
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: and I just happened to be present and I did

871
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: the best work of my life. And from that I believe.

872
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: And I know it sounds pretentious, but I think storytelling

873
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 3: there's nothing more powerful. And you know, I can send

874
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: out a tweet about anti Semitism or or do a

875
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 3: Ted talk or whatever, but when you tell a story

876
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: and people are lost in it, and they're wrapped in

877
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: the story and they see, oh, because a lot of

878
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: people you know what racism or anti semitism is not

879
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: knowing about someone else's culture. And then you know, so

880
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: this is a way to educate them, but through storytelling.

881
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 3: And so it's not didactic. You know, it's not dry.

882
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: It's like while they're lost and I'm tap dancing, it's Brooklyn,

883
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: and while they're in Germany, what's going on? And I

884
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: want this guy to win. You may even hate Juice,

885
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: but you want this guy to when and then you

886
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 3: see his journey through you see it through someone else's eyes.

887
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 3: And so we pulled it off. And so that will

888
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: change my life, if nothing else. From my perspective that like,

889
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 3: I never gave up Broke Eight Ribs while filming it,

890
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: didn't give up. I was producing the film, so we

891
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: were running a little behind, and so I ended up

892
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: doing my own stunts and I shouldn't have. Yeah, there

893
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: was a guy that was there that was younger and

894
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: stronger and better looking that could have stepped in and

895
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 3: done my stunts.

896
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: And you're like, no, no, allow me to do this.

897
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

898
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was all in the name of time.

899
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: But the reality is when you do that, you end

900
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: up losing more time. So a lot lots of lessons learned.

901
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: But I again was all in. And it's in the

902
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: movie I'm getting beaten up and those are my ribs.

903
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: That sounds are my actual ribs breaking.

904
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: The screaming is real.

905
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jaws, it was all real.

906
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: Okay. Do you think that storytelling has changed over time

907
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: because now that we have social media and TikTok and

908
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: everything is in short form? Do you think it's harder

909
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: to get people to sit down and focus on a

910
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: longer version story.

911
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: I do, but I think you can also if you

912
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: let that affect everything you do. It's up to us

913
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: to grab people's attention. My mother, I remember as a

914
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: child watching her perform and I could understand everything she

915
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: was saying. How a child I'm watching her do check

916
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: off for Shakespeare? But she told me, if you're doing

917
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: Shakespeare and they don't understand you that's your fault, not

918
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 3: their fault. So you have to make everything you're saying

919
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 3: like right now if they were filming us. My point

920
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 3: of concentration is to make you understand what I'm saying.

921
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: That's all I have to do is literally focus on

922
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: you and make you understand what I'm saying. So if

923
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: you start going, oh, oh well, no one's watching films anymore,

924
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: we got it's just eleven second TikTok. Guys, that's all

925
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: we're doing. Let's go okay, let's shake our asses. Let's

926
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: go grind, grind, grind. Oh my god, look at the views.

927
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: Look at the views. Look at the views.

928
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: That's what it's like now though I'm sure that you

929
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: hear it and it's around you that is like constantly

930
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm sorry, I can't.

931
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: I gotta do a TikTok. I can't finish this number. No, yeah, man,

932
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: you know it's up to us. You know people aren't

933
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: going to the movies. Well make a fucking great movie, man,

934
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: make a great movie that'll break through. And I did.

935
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: I did, like you know, will everything align? I have

936
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: no idea, but I know that I'm proud of it.

937
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: And when people see it. They're going to get it,

938
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 3: and that's all. That's all I can do. I can't

939
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 3: second guess myself and think about what do they want

940
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: to see? What's their attention span?

941
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: We all know that.

942
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: You know, everyone's talking about the Paul Thomas Anderson movie

943
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: right now. He's a genius. He's always done it his way, always,

944
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: and I'll go see anything that he does and and

945
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: you know, so just do what you connect with and

946
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: don't second guess it or think about what people want

947
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: to see. That's that's a slippery slope in a way

948
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: to homogenize whenever you are as a creative entity. I

949
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: like to use big words.

950
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate the big one. It up after we're done

951
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: and hopefully makes sense to me. No, I get it.

952
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: I totally understand what you're saying. What's the last movie

953
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: you saw in the theater?

954
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: Wow?

955
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: What is the last one? Miss?

956
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: Are you?

957
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: Are you at the point where they just send you

958
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: the screen or you just watch it at home so

959
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: you don't have to deal with the gen pop No.

960
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: I love. I love going to the theater. Last movie

961
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: I saw in the theater was a Q and A

962
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 3: for F one. If you can believe it, okay, and

963
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: it was, it was fascinating. And I mean there's another example. Okay,

964
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: you know on paper, they're going, wait, you're gonna spend

965
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty million on a movie right now?

966
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: They're not going to the movies. Well, it's like they were, Okay,

967
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: everyone loves F one we'll get Lewis Hamilton, he'll be

968
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: our drama tour and we'll get it, all right, and

969
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: everyone knows Brad Pitt aging F one star and you know,

970
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 3: coming back and and just a great story and and

971
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: they shot the shit out of it and everybody wins,

972
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: and you know, breaking box biggest biggest box office Brad

973
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: Pitt's ever had in a time when no one's going

974
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: to the movies. Okay, so they're they're doing their thing.

975
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: I went to a premiere the other night of a

976
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: movie that I have out right now on all the

977
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: streamers called Primitive War. And it's basically a Vietnam War

978
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 3: movie that then suddenly jumps timelines and we're battling dinosaurs.

979
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: And uh, I played Colonel Jericho. This is kind of

980
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: southern old school general. You know. Again, you know something

981
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,959
Speaker 3: that no one on paper would be like Piven isn't

982
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: a southern old school general. It's like, I'm an actor.

983
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: Just give me anything, Yeah, give me the fatigues and

984
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 3: yell action and let's go. What are we doing? And

985
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: I had so much fun and suddenly I'm just shooting

986
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 3: dinosaurs in the rain, jumping on helicopters and flying out

987
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: and it's it's so, that's the actual last movie. I

988
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 3: didn't want to say my own movie, but you know, people,

989
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: it was supposed to be in the theaters for a

990
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: week and ended up being, you know, five weeks in

991
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 3: the theater, and everyone's talking about it and our rated

992
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: blood and guts dinosaur movie that people have been waiting for.

993
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up dinosaurs here for a second,

994
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: because my lovely producer, Diamond, she just said, oh god,

995
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: she has a tough time believing in dinosaurs. So now

996
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: your work with obviously weren't working with real dinosaurs. What

997
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on dinosaurs? What they look like? And

998
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: do you think we've been sold a bill of goods

999
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: about dinosaurs. Diamond is at the point where she doesn't

1000
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: exist at all.

1001
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: I the Diamond. I think you just need to get

1002
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: on a plane and go to Florida and just take

1003
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: a look at an alligator. Okay, what is an alligator?

1004
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: Look at a platypus. I mean, I don't know. There's

1005
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 3: there's stuff out there that you can't even explain, Like

1006
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: what just this what is a direct Yeah? Exactly seen. Yeah,

1007
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 3: we still you know, we still have remnants of that time.

1008
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: You know, tortoises lived to one hundred and twenty years old.

1009
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: There's a shark out in Greenland somewhere that's like four

1010
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: hundred years old. Really, yes, the Greenland shark. Wow, I'm

1011
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: living forever. Her thing is actually I don't want to

1012
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: speak for you, but I will I will say I

1013
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: don't think the dinosaurs look anything like what they try

1014
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: to tell us they looked like because hair doesn't fossilize well,

1015
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: feathers don't fossilize well, so we don't know if they

1016
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: had hair, feathers in fur, we don't know that.

1017
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny you say that, because in primitive war

1018
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: they have feathers. They have so yeah, they're being very

1019
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: very true to to the dinosaurs. Okay, for sure you

1020
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: can geek out on that movie, and you should actually

1021
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 3: interview Luke Sparks, the guy that he didn't Indie dinosaur

1022
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: movie in Australia isn't a big studio movie, and he

1023
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: pulled it off and it's incredible and his journey is amazing,

1024
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: and you should you should definitely have him on the

1025
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: show too, because he's a fascinating dude. And like his

1026
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: wife's parents, it's like, you know, have a company where

1027
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: they have all the army fatigues and everything, so it's

1028
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: like this kind of mom paw like family effort. You

1029
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 3: get there, and he just did it all himself in

1030
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: his backyard and it looks amazing.

1031
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to Australia, Diamond, that's to Australia Dinosaurs.

1032
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: She just every time we bring up dinosaurs, she's like, don't,

1033
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: don't do it. I don't want to hear about it.

1034
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: She has a really tough time.

1035
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: What about the what about the bones that we see,

1036
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: you know in all the museums?

1037
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about them, Diamond, Yeah.

1038
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: We know that they weren't it's not just like rocks

1039
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: that are in the shape rocks.

1040
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: When did you turn into Kyrie Irving? This is crazy

1041
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: and the world is that.

1042
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: This may be the one thing that I'm embarrassed. Yeah,

1043
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: but I'm confused.

1044
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: It just doesn't.

1045
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't. It doesn't make it all the

1046
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: way around in my head. Does that make sense?

1047
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely? But yeah, I think I suggest Look at there's

1048
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: something called the toad and Mike Tyson talks about it

1049
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 3: a lot. It's pure d MT. Frogs emit uh. They

1050
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: secrete uh venom for any of their predators, so that

1051
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: when you bite into a frog, they release his venom

1052
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: and then it kills any predator. And so they take

1053
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: this venom and they crystallize it and they dry it

1054
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 3: and they you smoke it. It's called the toad. And

1055
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson is the first person that told.

1056
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: Me about it.

1057
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: And I was doing his podcast and he was taking

1058
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: handfuls of mushrooms and just eating them and goes, it's

1059
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 3: it's a microdose. I go, no, no, sir, that's a macrodose.

1060
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 3: Threw me, throw me through me, you go. He goes,

1061
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 3: I don't understand. Where's your entourage? I go, I don't

1062
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: have an entourage, man, It's just me.

1063
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1064
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 3: Fear it with you know, fear with with your friend.

1065
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: Fear can cook your food, Fear can keep you warm

1066
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: at night. You know what I'm saying the one hundred

1067
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: and fifteen pounds. I'm a path of fifth. You know

1068
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I want to I'm connected with God

1069
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: but also devil with within your ear. And you know

1070
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 3: understand what I'm saying. You know, forgive it's the very

1071
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: powerful God. Brother, this is too much information. Anyway, he

1072
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: told me. He told me that he took the toad

1073
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: and it changes life. And if you look at Mike

1074
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 3: and the trajectory of his life, he's like a different

1075
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: person now, he's like a Buddha, you know. And he was,

1076
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: you know, the youngest heavyweight and a different person. But anyway,

1077
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 3: the reason I brought bring that up is I think

1078
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 3: I did the toad. And what happens is your soul

1079
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 3: leaves your body and you die, and all of a sudden,

1080
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 3: you're like you because it thinks, you know, this is venom,

1081
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 3: but they've gotten it to a point where it doesn't

1082
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 3: actually kill you, so you have a perspective on life. Now.

1083
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: I'll be totally honest with you. I didn't fully I

1084
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: literally didn't fully commit to the trip because I was

1085
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 3: listening to the music and I was staying grounded in

1086
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: the room because I could feel immediately, Oh, you're too

1087
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: tied to this life. You care too much about your

1088
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: ambition and all of these things that don't matter. I

1089
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: saw it immediately, but I couldn't commit to it because

1090
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: I knew in the back of my mind, Oh, I've

1091
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: got to get the performance out. I need to stay

1092
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: in my ambition and get the performance out to the world.

1093
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: And then and then I'm gonna go and take the

1094
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: toad and I'll probably put on a long right robe

1095
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: and you'll never hear from me again. I swear to you.

1096
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: It may I'll just go into a spiritual life and

1097
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: I'll it's incredible. I will caught me in. But I

1098
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: got to get the performance out first. So I think

1099
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 3: if you I'm not telling you to do drugs, but

1100
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 3: I think you did something like the Toad you because

1101
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: the thing about you know, there are so many different

1102
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 3: timelines going on at the same time. My mother passed

1103
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 3: away this year and she was going in really sorry

1104
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: about that, thank you. She was going in and out

1105
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: of consciousness in the hospital and I was like, Mom,

1106
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: where were you and she was like, oh, just in Vietnam.

1107
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 3: I was like, well, that's crazy. And so we were

1108
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 3: talking so I do, she and she was being straight

1109
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 3: with me. I do think that, like there's a lot

1110
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: of different timelines going on at the same time, so

1111
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 3: you might manifest and then all of a sudden you're

1112
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 3: just like running from dinosaurs, and then you're gonna come

1113
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 3: back into this room and you'll be like, Okay, they're real.

1114
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: All it takes it the Toae Diamond, We're on it.

1115
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna, We're gonna. She's gonna one of these days.

1116
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: She hasn't even smoked weed in her life. Oh oh,

1117
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: I thought you should do having full weed.

1118
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: Maybe you should start with mushrooms.

1119
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: I've been trying. Yeah, I'm fascinated that you were able

1120
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: to do the toad and not completely like, oh, I

1121
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: didn't even know you had control or something like that,

1122
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: So you didn't. This wasn't a time where you saw

1123
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: the spirit guide that everybody talks about and it walked

1124
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: you through whatever realm everybody says they go to. You

1125
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: never got there.

1126
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: I didn't get there because I was holding on to

1127
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 3: this three D reality with everything that I have because

1128
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 3: I know I need to see the performance through. I

1129
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 3: need to see it through.

1130
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: And the performance you're talking about is the movie that

1131
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: you just finished.

1132
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: The adaptation of the Arthur Miller piece that I star

1133
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 3: in and my sister I had her adapt and direct it,

1134
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 3: and you know it's going to be out as soon

1135
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: as we can tie up some loose ends, and yeah,

1136
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: I'll send you. I'll send you a trailer. Maybe you

1137
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: could play a little trailer to give people a little

1138
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: reference for that.

1139
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: I would love to. The more you talk about it,

1140
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: the more I keep thinking, when is it going to

1141
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: come out? But you've already said you don't have a

1142
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: date just yet, so when you do have one, we

1143
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: would of course let to see back and talk about

1144
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: all of that. But I'm just fascinated that you were

1145
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: somehow able to control the toad in any way, because

1146
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: from everything I hear, you know, it.

1147
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: Wasn't no, it wasn't a it was to be honest

1148
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 3: with you, it was more of a macro do micro dose.

1149
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: And had I done, I probably would a lot harder

1150
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 3: to control, had I gone fully deep. But I'm a

1151
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 3: pretty clean person, you know what I mean. I don't

1152
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: do man made drugs, cocaine or any don't really drink,

1153
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: and so my system's clean, and so that thing hit

1154
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: me like I was shot out of a cannon. Crazy, Okay, he.

1155
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: Will return after that. It sounds amazing. When you mentioned

1156
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: when we were talking about earlier, how I thought stand

1157
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: up sounded terrifying. Yeah, I will reassess because you talking

1158
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: about sitting in a room with Mike Tyson as he

1159
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: is eating handfuls of mushrooms actually sounds more terrifying than anything.

1160
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: Stand up.

1161
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: A great. He's you know, he's smoking weed and it's

1162
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 3: you know, it's very while doing his podcast, Oh absolutely.

1163
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: You know. We had Saquon Barkley on and Saqua was

1164
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 3: sitting and he goes, he goes, Sequon, who are you?

1165
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: And Seque goes, oh, man, I'm a I'm a running back.

1166
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 3: I had a He goes, fuck all that ship man,

1167
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: He goes, who are you? And I was like, oh, ship,

1168
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 3: Mike's peaking. He started, he started peaking. Saquon looks at me.

1169
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 3: He goes, it's just normal. I go, yeah, man, it's

1170
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: all good. You're good, You're good. And so you can

1171
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: look up this episode on Hot Boxing. He was crazy

1172
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: and mikeels, what maddest to you when this life? And

1173
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: he's and Saque's like, man, I'm trying to get back

1174
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: I'm on a long journey with my a cl He goes,

1175
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: fuck that, who do you love in this life? And

1176
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 3: Mike was just going deep and uh, to his credit,

1177
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: like bless him, he he, he really went there and

1178
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: it was an amazing episode. But Mike did talk about

1179
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 3: and taking the toad and losing it and uh, really

1180
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: going crazy, and you know, people around him being terrified

1181
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: because he is still Mike Tyson. Sure you know what

1182
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: I mean, But I don't want to speak for him.

1183
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: He talks about this openly and publicly. He's a really

1184
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: really sweet guy. I mean, he was on Entourage and

1185
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 3: he was this is before he made this kind of

1186
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: transition into this more enlightened version of himself. And I

1187
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: just got to work with him as an actor and

1188
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: that was just because I was such a fan, and

1189
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 3: you know, his journey as a boxer is just absolutely incredible,

1190
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: and so I got to I got to work with

1191
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: him as an actor and help him to become the

1192
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: best version of himself on camera, and that was very

1193
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 3: gratifying for me.

1194
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, we were talking about the fandom in

1195
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: other countries versus here, and how it is a little

1196
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: bit more serious other places here it's just, Oh my god,

1197
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,959
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with you. Take a picture with me. It's great.

1198
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: Are there any people that you would meet today that

1199
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: you haven't met already that you would feel a little

1200
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: bit of fan girl about.

1201
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it would probably be Daniel day Lewis.

1202
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 3: And just because you.

1203
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: Kind of have access with the Rebecca Miller's you, you

1204
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:05,479
Speaker 1: would think.

1205
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: I think I think she's very protective of him, as

1206
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: she should be, you know, but I just know he

1207
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: and I I'm not going to go so far as

1208
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 3: I mean, we both he commits so fully and it's

1209
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 3: just so admirable what he does and who he is.

1210
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 3: And I'm just fascinated by him as a as an

1211
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 3: artist and as a human being, and he just feels

1212
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 3: like such a decent person. So yeah, I think there

1213
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: will come a time where we do a screening and

1214
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 3: and he gets to see this film and that that'll

1215
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 3: mean everything to me. So maybe I'll manifest that. And

1216
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: he's working with his son, and one of the reasons

1217
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: he wanted to do that is to spend more time

1218
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: with his son. I mean, like, it's just so beautiful,

1219
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: you know, twenty seven year old director who's crushing it.

1220
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: And I can't wait to see that. And I, you know,

1221
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 3: work with my sister and been directed by my father

1222
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 3: and my mother, so I understand all those dynamics. And

1223
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 3: you know, this is an adaptation of his wife's father,

1224
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: Arthur Miller, who won the Pulitzer Prize and was married

1225
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: to Marilyn Monroe. And it's just you know, craziness. So yeah,

1226
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,479
Speaker 3: I would, I would, I you know, maybe I would

1227
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 3: love to manifest a Daniel day Lewis meeting.

1228
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I hope that happens for you, but

1229
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: you have a lot of really cool stuff still happening

1230
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: on your own for you. Stand up happening this weekend

1231
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: right here in New York City, nineteenth at Sony Music.

1232
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: Hall, Sony Hall. Let's go. Let's go, Jeremy Dashpivot dot

1233
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: Com for tickets. Don't worry if the vip are sold out.

1234
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful, little, intimate, five hundred seat theater. There

1235
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 3: isn't a bad seat.

1236
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: It's a great space. I'll live.

1237
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: If they mentioned you, let's give them some free meet

1238
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: and greets so that you know you don't have to

1239
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 3: pay extra money, absolutely all right.

1240
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: So if they mentioned Gandhi, you can get a free

1241
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: meet and greet.

1242
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 3: Just gandhi, eazy name to remember.

1243
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully when they come through it will work out. I

1244
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: get to come meet you and greet you and say hi.

1245
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1246
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: So last question for you, because I've kept you for

1247
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: a long time, which I really appreciate. By the way,

1248
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: thank you. We talked about kind of tuning out the noise,

1249
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: keeping social media out of your brain if you can.

1250
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard a rumor about yourself that was

1251
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: so fantastic you wished it were true, or one that

1252
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: was so outrageous that you felt you had to address it.

1253
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's so interesting because I believe when when

1254
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 3: it's one of the great lessons of life. It used

1255
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 3: to really affect me what people thought of me, and

1256
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: you used to really affect me, And once you release that,

1257
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 3: it's just it's it's so incredible. It's such a gift

1258
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 3: to release all of that. But I, you know, I

1259
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: think that there are are you know, I've played all

1260
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: these roles. So I did an actor who I think

1261
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 3: is a brilliant actor, and he and he asked me

1262
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 3: to do some blow with him, and I was like,

1263
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 3: oh no, I don't. I don't do blow. He's like, mate,

1264
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: I saw, uh, you know, I saw, I've seen you

1265
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 3: do it. I go, did you see smoking aces? Yeah? Mate,

1266
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: I saw you don't do a little Charlie May. I

1267
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: don't know, bro, I don't wait. You saw you're an actor.

1268
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 3: You're a brilliant actor. I was acting that was powdered

1269
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 3: vitamin C. So like I somehow convinced this actor that

1270
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 3: I was snorting cocaine in a movie Like wow, I

1271
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 3: convinced that guy, so like, I have to see that

1272
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 3: and realize, Okay, it's out of my control. Even highly

1273
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: intelligent people who are artists who know the process are

1274
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: confused by me. So it has nothing to do with me,

1275
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: And I think it's a lot of wasted energy. I

1276
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 3: don't want when you do your comedy, the only thing,

1277
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 3: the only way you could do go is to look

1278
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,959
Speaker 3: at the comments or listen to people. I remember getting

1279
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 3: up on stage and I heard this comment this comic

1280
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: who I just celebrated. I was like, hey, man, I

1281
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 3: saw you on this show. You're doing great job. And

1282
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: I was just trying to just encourage him. Now he

1283
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: has no background as an actor, and he's taking on

1284
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: my roles. God bless him. Do I sound bitter. Yeah,

1285
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 3: I'm bitter. Okay. So I'm getting on stage and I

1286
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 3: hear him go, anyone thinks that they can do comedy now.

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01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 3: And what he doesn't realize is that fuels me because

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01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 3: he's got to watch me, not because he wants to,

1289
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 3: but because he's got the next spot. So he's got

1290
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 3: to sit there and watch my spot. And I love

1291
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 3: comedy and I respect it and I grind. I'm going

1292
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: to make you laugh and I'm gonna have a great time.

1293
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 3: So him doubting me, it really inspires me to work harder.

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01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: So let it fuel you, don't let it overwhelm you.

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01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 3: Welcome to my ted talk.

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01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. I think I've done a

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01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: good job thus far.

1298
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 3: You did a great job doing that.

1299
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: Because when I started here who people did not like me?

1300
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: I guess you'd have to ask them. I think that

1302
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: I was the newest one in I have slightly different

1303
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: opinions than a lot of the people here.

1304
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 3: I come maybe spirit, yeah, maybe see whatever triggers them

1305
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with you.

1306
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: No, And even if it does, I actually don't care.

1307
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: It took me a minute to get there, but then

1308
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm really happy. I

1309
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: go home every day and I'm really happy, and I'm

1310
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: happy with the work I put in here. Like you said,

1311
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: I fully commit to my job. I commit to things

1312
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: outside my job, even my side hustles. This podcast means

1313
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: the world to me, and it's doing really well. And

1314
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: if people have a lot of shit to say, let

1315
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: them say it. That's fine. I don't care. As Taylor

1316
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: Swift and Lady Gaga said, I am not the art police.

1317
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: You don't have to like me. It doesn't matter. I'm

1318
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: still gonna do what I do. It did take a

1319
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: minute to get there, though, so I wish I would

1320
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: have had more conversations with people like you who have

1321
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: actually been through it and can say it doesn't matter. Definitively,

1322
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: this doesn't matter, because sometimes it can really feel like

1323
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: it does.

1324
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you need to feel that to learn from it,

1325
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 3: because you can theorize it about it, but it's not

1326
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: as impactful as you being brought to your knees. Damn,

1327
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 3: that was deep.

1328
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: I want a good note leave people with that. If

1329
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: people want to find you online, where they can find you.

1330
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 3: My Instagram is this the Blue check. Jeremy Piven, and

1331
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 3: I'm on X and I think I'm on Facebook. I

1332
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm a cave man.

1333
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: Good for you.

1334
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: Let's hug it out.

1335
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: Hugging it out, and you have flyers, there have flyers.

1336
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: This is what I do.

1337
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm gonna leave you and then go

1338
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 3: hand out flyers on the street. Yes, yeah, three consecutive

1339
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: m means, and I'm still heading out flyers. That's either

1340
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 3: tragic or inspiring.

1341
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: Inspiring. We're gonna go with that.

1342
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you so much.

1343
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: All right, time after that, What are your thoughts on

1344
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: Jeremy Piven. We have some behind the scenes stuff that

1345
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: we should address.

1346
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 2: He's a very interesting man.

1347
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, to say the least, he's a lot to say.

1348
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: He does.

1349
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I appreciate that more than people

1350
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: who come in here and you feel like you have

1351
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: to drag answers out of them. I didn't even get

1352
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 1: to like half of my questions because I'm not sure

1353
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: what's going on. I will tell you, I am excited

1354
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: to see this movie. He's been talking about the performance.

1355
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to. I want to see it too.

1356
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: It sounds interesting. I think that he's very serious about

1357
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: his craft and the things that he does. I think

1358
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: he is all over the map, and you can maybe

1359
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: enlighten me on what the fuck happened. So he was

1360
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: supposed to be here at a certain time, as we

1361
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: have talked about on this podcast before. I don't care

1362
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: anymore who it is. If somebody takes too long to

1363
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: get here and they're late, and they also are not

1364
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: updating me about what's going on, I don't care. I'll

1365
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: call it, which is what happened. So we got to

1366
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: about forty minutes past when he was supposed to be here,

1367
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: and I said, uh huh, Diamon, just go ahead and

1368
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: tell his publicists like, we're done, we're not going to

1369
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 1: do this, which you did. Publicists apparently passed that message

1370
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: on because somewhere somehow he got lost in the city,

1371
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 1: which he referenced a couple times in that podcast. What happened, Diamond?

1372
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So from my perspective, yes, I let his publicists

1373
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 2: know that we were just gonna have to cancel the interview.

1374
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 2: He's like, Diamond, I don't know what to do. He's

1375
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: on his way, He's telling me he's almost there. He's

1376
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: walking up now, and I'm like, Okay, well, do you

1377
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: have his number? Like, can I have his number? He

1378
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: sends me his number. I go downstairs because as we

1379
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: were hanging up, he said, oh, he just texted me

1380
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: and said he's walking in now. So I run downstairs.

1381
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: I can see from our lobby a man that I

1382
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: could not tell if it was him or not. He

1383
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: had a baseball cap on, so I'm like trying to look.

1384
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: He's on the phone and he's freaking out. He's like, well,

1385
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: you know what, man, now mind you. I'm in the lobby.

1386
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: The doors are closed, but I can hear him screaming outside,

1387
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: so you know what, man, if they don't want me?

1388
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 2: And then I hear him say, here's what we're gonna do.

1389
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 2: Here's what we're gonna do. And I'm like, what were

1390
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 2: they gonna do?

1391
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: It's him like it's starting to like click, and.

1392
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no way that this man is like

1393
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: yelling on the street. So I call him and I

1394
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: watch him and hang up on his publicist and answer

1395
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: the phone and he's like hello. I'm like Jeremy. He's

1396
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 2: like hey, So I'm like, this is Diamond, Like is

1397
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 2: this shoes standing? I was like, He's like, it is

1398
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: and we're and we're about to have a good time,

1399
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: and he walks in. He gets on the elevator and

1400
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: he squats on.

1401
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: The elevator on the he was about to take a ship.

1402
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: Yes, in the corner, just squats and not it's me, him,

1403
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: Andrew and Maxwell to the four of us are just

1404
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: standing there and he's like, not engaging in conversation. This

1405
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: was probably the longest elevator ride in my life. But

1406
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 2: you know what, it was a great interview. I did

1407
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: not have high hopes for it. I never really didn't

1408
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: because I was freaking out, like, oh my god, this guy.

1409
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: At first he's screaming on the streets of New York

1410
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: and then he's squatting in an elevator with people he

1411
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: doesn't know.

1412
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: He was angry.

1413
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: I hope he gets something to eat.

1414
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: But he was great. It's great, Oh man, good times,

1415
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: the things that happen in this job. And then I

1416
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: was thinking with him, like when he was talking about

1417
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson and doing a podcast with him where he's

1418
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: eating handfuls of shrooms and then interviewing Saquon Barkley at

1419
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, that sounds like an acid trip.

1420
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: That doesn't even sound like something that actually happens in

1421
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: real life. And I think about the things that we

1422
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: deal with in this studio that I'm like, I can't

1423
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: believe that just happened. And I can't even imagine what

1424
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 1: it's like for people at that level. They just have

1425
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: to be doing the wildest shit all the time. Well

1426
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: for him to think that he could just squat in

1427
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 1: an elevator, and like, was this an explanation? No, I

1428
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: didn't ask, none of us even like we all like looked.

1429
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: At one point, I saw Maxwell look Andrew looks at me.

1430
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: Maxwell then looks at the both of us. He's like

1431
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: looking around and he's just.

1432
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: In his own world.

1433
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: We have to get the footage from our building. Oh

1434
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 1: they have cameras in those ole leaders. Oh yeah, the

1435
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: funniest shit. I would like not to actually do anything

1436
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: with it, because what are we gonna do with it?

1437
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: Who cares? I just want to see it because I

1438
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: know the three of you were holding it in so bad.

1439
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: I can tell Andrew is getting nervous. When I was like,

1440
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm done, I don't want to do it, I don't care.

1441
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: This is fine.

1442
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: And then Jeremy Piven called my phone no, Yeah, what

1443
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: do he say? He was like, Hi, it's Jeremy. I

1444
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: was like hello, because I have the screener thing on

1445
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: my phone where it asks you and it said whoever

1446
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: is calling their name?

1447
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 2: So I was like.

1448
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: I answered it and he's like, Hi, it's Jeremy. I'm

1449
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: all my way up. I've been walking tennis blocks maybe more.

1450
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm on shore. He was like, but the good thing

1451
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: is my publicist freaking out, and it would be nice

1452
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: if he just knew that there are a lot of

1453
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: problems in the world, tons of them, and this is

1454
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: not one. I was like, do you need someone to

1455
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: come find you? He said yes, please, And that's why

1456
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: I said Andrew, also because I was like, I don't

1457
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: so where are you. He's like, I don't know, maybe

1458
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: in front of the building. And then I think he

1459
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: was maybe having a conversation with someone, yeah, or himself.

1460
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: But he's like, oh, that's right, I've never been here before.

1461
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Okay, they're coming, I.

1462
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: Will have them come kidding.

1463
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: It was just funny to be like, hello, Hi, it's Jeremy.

1464
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, that should be recorded.

1465
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you I all the shit that

1466
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: I talked about I'm not doing it, it's taking too long. Clearly,

1467
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: I watked right back on that because I was not

1468
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,799
Speaker 1: about to be incredibly rude. After He's like, I'm hustling,

1469
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm out here, and then that was fun. It was

1470
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: it was a good time. I think that was. Yeah,

1471
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: we got to get you the toad.

1472
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 2: Never, never in my life.

1473
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: Never are you kidding? No, you try that.

1474
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: I want to so bad, You're insane. I'm sorry, I

1475
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: want to be like I want to be down. No,

1476
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 2: I really do, just like, oh this whimsical vibe. I

1477
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 2: want to.

1478
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: But no, okay, that's fine. We will not have you

1479
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: do the toad. Okay, But picturing Mike Tyson eating all

1480
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: those shrooms and then trying to talk to Saku Barkley,

1481
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: who are you? I'm a running back?

1482
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 3: No, who are you?

1483
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm scared of him? No, I'm Jerry. I'm scared of

1484
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: him for other reasons. But but uh, Mike Tyson scares

1485
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: the shit out of me.

1486
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: Well, all in all, how are you feeling? Are you

1487
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: glad we stuck around for that?

1488
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

1489
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, even though I'm starting to get angry. Now, okay,

1490
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 2: we'll just competing about it.

1491
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: Made me angry, I thought when he was saying, I

1492
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: was like, I'm fucking hungry right now. Yeah, oh my god,

1493
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: and I ate I don't even know the power of suggestion.

1494
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: All right, Diamond, if people want to find you online,

1495
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: where they.

1496
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Speaker 2: Canna find you at Diamond?

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Speaker 1: Sincere yes on threads as well, She's yes the dumpster

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Speaker 1: fire that is thread I love it. I am at

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Speaker 1: Baby High Saus. Please like, review, subscribe, follow this podcast,

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Speaker 1: leave us a talk back, and hopefully you can go

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Speaker 1: see Jeremy Piven this weekend. He'll be in New York

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Speaker 1: City and then he's also literally touring around the country.

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Speaker 1: He didn't mention any of those dates, but he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be all over the place, so by all means, go

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Speaker 1: check him out wherever you can. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: this and his Ted Talk. We appreciate it.