1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions in ocasion didn't notice. I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: what he likes to share. Now it's time to hear 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald money making Conversations. Here we go. 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversation, masterclash I am your host, 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: rous Sean McDonald. I recognize that we all have different 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: definitions of success. For you and may be the size 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: goals and live their very best life. It's time to 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start writing your own. 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: People always talk about their purpose of gifts. If you 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: have a gift, lead with your gifts and don't let 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning or 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: living your dreams. My next guest is Jay our False Nicholson. 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: He's one of the stars of P valid one of 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: the most acclaimed series on the Stars Network. Letnna give 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: you a little background on P Valley. Tell us a 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: universal story of hustlers, streamers, survivors, and strivers. The show 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: confronts and illustrator realities of domestic violence, trauma, and police 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: brutality with death and nuance. It is one of the 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: most highly rated shows on Writing Tomatoes. In fact, it's 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: rated that's UH the ultimate A plus compliment. It remains 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: one of the most acclaimed shows on TV. It just 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: broke out of nowhere. It was on TV season one. 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: We're talking about season two. P Valley is going to 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: numerous decodes UH awards, including the nuble A CP Image Award, 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: as well as nominations from the Television Critics Association, GLAD 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: Media Awards, Independent Spirit Awards, Got Them, Independence Film Awards, 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: and many many more. But easy here my show right now. 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Please walking to Money Making Conversations, Masterclass, A K A 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Little Murder, J L. Falls Nicholson. How you doing, sir, 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Certain, Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Well, 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back a little bit to the first season. Man, 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: this is when I became a fan. Man when you 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: in uh Keisha came out there in that finale, Man 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: and I. I was trying to find the CD. I 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: was trying to tay. I was trying to find the CD. Man. 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I really was trying to find the CD. I told Nicole, 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: who interviewed already, I said, Man, you are you Let's 44 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: let's let's go back about you, man, because you see 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: so natural. It's an urban flick, your your you know, 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: and it's all about feeling that moment and being in 47 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: that moment. Talk about that episode that I'm talking about, 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: and when did you feel that you really had a 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: grip on the character a little murder in the p 50 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: Valley series. Appreciate the conwords. Um. You know, we've been 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: working on this since two the eighteen when we did 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: that first college um episode. They got it picked up 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: in two eight teams. I knew then that we had 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: to hit it on our hands. I knew that, uh, 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, it was going to be a complex relationship 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: with the audience, but they were going to receive it. 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: And so by time we better the season one, I 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: would say halfway through the season, I was very comfortable 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: with the character that I was creating alongside Guttory Hall 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: and the rest of my cast makes the story that 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: we were telling. And then yeah, by the time we 62 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: got to that episode with Keyshon and I Mad Murder Night, 63 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, it was one of those things where the 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: world had already been so enthralled by our show that 65 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, it almost felt like it was happening in 66 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: real time. Not only was a Little Murder and Keyshon 67 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: extremely popular on the show, but then we were like 68 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: popular in real life too, and all of our fame 69 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: was kind of growing at the same time. So I 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: would say midway through the seasons when I really locked 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: in and felt like I have to complete control over 72 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: this character. I know exactly what I'm doing with them. 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: And then, um, even the parts that made me a 74 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: little apprehensive and and scared and nervous to to portray 75 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: or you know, the emotions that I knew had to 76 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: be portrayed. I knew as long as I was I 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: stayed true, as long as I was honest with my actions, 78 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: that the world will receive it and eventually be kind 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: to this character that we're not so used to seeing. Well, definitely, 80 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: you know I think that you know, we see, uh, 81 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: we see life is Uh, it's like it's like everybody 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: has a month now, you know, but that month has 83 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: to be received with information, has to be promoted and uh. 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: And then because of the fact that at this point 85 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: in life, it's really being promoted and this show is 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: being promoted because of the approach it takes about the 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: community is representing. When you say you was a little nervous, 88 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: I just want to go back on what your comments were, 89 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: just to get just just to grow out of that 90 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: thought process so my audience can understand. Everything is challenging 91 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: and it can be on the piece of paper, but 92 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: you still have to honestly deliver the role. Talk about that. Yeah, man, 93 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: I think every role comes with an extreme amount of challenges, 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, especially roads that you um, you know, as 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: a person are not estamiliar with. You know, I knew 96 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: who the murder is because of the every man that 97 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: he is in our society, you know, but as a 98 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: hetero sexual man, it was you know, I knew that 99 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: I was portraying someone who I wasn't and so just 100 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: nervous about how the audience was going to receive that. 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: And then you know, want of my brothers and assistants 102 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: who are who are a part of that community of 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: g b t Q community to feel respected and feel 104 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: like that their story would be told in an honest way. 105 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: And so I think that's where the nerves came from. Um. 106 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: But now a lot of nerves have subsided, subsided, just 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: because you know the reaction of the show and how 108 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: people accept the character is always gonna be love, always 109 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: gonna be hate, but I always choose to accept more 110 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: the love. Well, I would tell you that no hate 111 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: here from Rashan McDonald, No hate here from money making cover, 112 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: no he here from my social media, no here from 113 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: my news letter, Okay, my radio show. Because of the television, 114 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: you can only grow, especially as a community. Let's let's 115 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: go to black people, because black people are the last 116 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: admit anything. And sometimes when you're going to the gay community, 117 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: that's that's perceived as a flaw. And and we as 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: a as a community, until we started accepting this is 119 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: not a flaw, this is part of life, then we 120 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: can move forward a community. And so so when the 121 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: show came out, you know, I would tell you, you know, 122 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: it was talking about the strip club, and I wasn't 123 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: even feeling that, uh, you know, And I would tell you. 124 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: I had that same attitude when Power came out when 125 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: it was talking about fifty cents and a drug dealer 126 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: and club. I'm not getting that, fell in love with that, 127 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: and so I always tell people, don't reject, participate and 128 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: then allow the story to grow on you. And this 129 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: story has grown on me now as it has grown 130 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: on this country. How have you reacted to that? Jay Man? 131 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: Just trying to stay relaxed. And then for me, you know, 132 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: my wife and I were always on the same page 133 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: about you know, staying away from certain comments on social 134 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: media or you know, not getting too caught up in 135 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the whole fanfare of it all because people love you 136 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: one day, that age next, you know. So, but I 137 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: appreciate all all of the just amazing, you know, comments 138 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: and just generous attention that has been spent on Pete Island. 139 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: That we built an incredible fan base, and so to 140 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: be a part of the that is unlike any other 141 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: show I've been on before, and probably you know, unlike 142 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: any experience I'll have going for if you guys, just 143 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: such a conglomber and man is huge. So I'm glad 144 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: to be a part of it. Well, you know, an 145 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: interesting thing about the jail interviewing JR. Fox. Nicholson has 146 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: one of the stars of pe Valley. He plays the 147 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: character a Little Murder, one of the more popular characters 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: on the series. He got about like four story lines 149 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: running simultaneously. You know, So I say that's a good thing, 150 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: because what happens is you want to get back to 151 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: Little Murder find out what's going on. You know, you're 152 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: nervous about Keyshaw because her husband's kind of crazy at 153 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: the crib taking kid kids. You don't know if he's 154 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: gonna show up. You know, I remember when you and 155 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Keishall was in the same room. I was worried he's 156 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna busting the dough. Thank y'all having a relationship. You know, 157 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: very talk about that writing, man, because like I said, 158 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: y'all got my head spinning. And I'm gonna tell you 159 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: something a little background on me. I'm a sitcom writer 160 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: back in the Day's sister sister Jamie Fox show The Parkers, 161 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: the Parents who had So I know about quality, right 162 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: and so so I also know about when I'm seeing 163 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: it being played out by outstanding acting. But the with 164 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: the script, man, I'm gonna tell you right now, I 165 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: couldn't be in that writer's room. Y'all came out, y'all 166 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: coming out with languages and statements I can't even deal with. Man, 167 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: talk about that script there, Jay, y'all be talking man, 168 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: and and a lot of times I put the show 169 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: on close capturing so I can see the script language 170 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: and it's off the chain. Man. Talk about that man, 171 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: because that what makes it authentic, you know. You know 172 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: if you guys that went beyond the word ain't you know, 173 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: y'all got a whole language. Just happened that in Mississippi, 174 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, talk to us about that man. Shout out 175 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: to the Tory hall man. She is just, you know, 176 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: an incredible writer for a surprise winning writer at this point, 177 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: and so she honors and pays homage to what she hears. 178 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: And so that's one thing I'm grateful to be. Excuse 179 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: me to be part of our show that allows us 180 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: to sit in our most familiar monopoly, you know. And 181 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: so for me coming up through theater, you know, working 182 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: my way up to Broadway, there's this uh thing where 183 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: you have to speak very proper and have the standard 184 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: American England to be able to do the Shakespeare and 185 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: all these things, and we can come on back home 186 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: and sit in the ebonics, which is one of the 187 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: most beautiful, you know languages I feel, you know, and 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: our culture we created that, and so Tori, she explores 189 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: all levels of that, even when you know, like you said, 190 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: black people hate admitting that we sound a certain ways sometimes, 191 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: but the truth, you know, and uh, when you get 192 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: into certain parts of the South, there's a very specific 193 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: sound and obviously there's a diverse culture in the South 194 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: as well. Everyone doesn't sound the same um and I 195 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: think we show that very well on people and that 196 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, Victory, she's gonna use every 197 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: inch of herty dictionary and where the ship make up something, 198 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: then there will be a lot of that that you know, 199 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: you heard your mom and your aunt's and your cousins 200 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: say several times. So it's nice to be a part 201 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, before we get into the season two, 202 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: I want to go back to that that that that 203 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: that the season for Nale, you know, when you came 204 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: out and performed and because I gotta go, I would 205 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: tell you that was a start making turn for me, 206 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, and I also keeps you, you know, 207 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: because I was like I was like at the house. Wow, 208 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, I stop my wife, you know, because she 209 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: being as she I'll be watching all kind of got 210 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: my big screen. I what you watching next? Thing? She's 211 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: sitting next to me. I said that. I said that 212 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: board right there and start. And I'm gonna tell you, 213 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ever asked you to do what she's 214 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: doing because it is impossible. I don't know why she 215 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: doing it. She feels like, you know, like a gymnast. 216 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: But y'all all had to start turning performance there when 217 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: that When when something happens like that, where are you 218 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: an emotional lead? And you do? You do? You do? 219 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: People tell you, wow, man, that was special. How did 220 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: that moment happen? Because it propelled you into season two? 221 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: And then, um, you know, I always just put my 222 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: best foot forward, no matter who my audiences, no matter 223 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: who's watching, and I think that's something that Hitter has 224 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: taught me. Um, you know, eight shows a week, you 225 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: gotta bring it every time, and so your audience is 226 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: either going to lean into that or sit back. And 227 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: people out of doors they just leaked into it. And 228 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: so that let me feel confident about the performance. Even 229 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: though you know, I feel confident about it before we 230 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: give it out to the audience, but once they receive 231 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: it and everyone it's going crazy. And also just kind 232 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: of being moved out of the character that they're saying. 233 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: Also just transport the cinema, cinematography and storytelling. It means 234 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot because it's a lot of hard work. So 235 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: as an artist, you know, I try to correlate it 236 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: to pottery. You know, you you make this beautiful pot 237 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: takes your time, you have to painted and sculpted, and 238 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: then once you put it in the the stores or you 239 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: give it as a gift and that person's overwhelmed by 240 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: what you created. It means the world and so as 241 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: a craft and for someone to accept your craft and 242 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Um you know, it's just one of 243 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: those things where you can't you really can't deny the 244 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: feeling that it gives you, which is just love and ultimately, 245 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, being seen for the artists that you are. 246 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: So it's it's a beautiful thing that I love it. 247 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: And sometimes, you know, can't quite explain what the energy is. 248 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: You can't explain what it's like having four point five 249 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: that you view is watch you every week or sometimes 250 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: the non Nabe you can't really explain that that energy 251 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: is life. So it's just that you gotta go through it, 252 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: you know. Well, the reason I'm just bringing these things 253 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: up and just want to slow it down to my 254 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: listeners and viewers about p Valley is that it's a 255 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: substantive show and it deserves all awards that is being 256 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: put in front of us. The reason I like it 257 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: because white society have created shows like this in the 258 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: past and have received these same type of reward, but 259 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: we've never been able to cross over. You know, we'll 260 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: ever be able to create a culture like they do 261 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: Godfather movies all the time, left and right, but when 262 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: we would do stories about our culture, they will never 263 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: receive like this is being received, or like Power Power 264 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: really did get his credit, but this it was this 265 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: series is getting this credit to get a one on 266 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes. That's a big wild factor, Jay, Yeah, that's 267 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: a huge wild factor. It doesn't happen too often, you know, 268 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: for some of the largest show to come out, you know, 269 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: White Black, Black Team or whatever the uh you know, 270 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: the audiences or whatever the show, that just doesn't happen. 271 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: So what to happen for us or to be a 272 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: you know obviously majority black show, black brand show run, 273 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, majority black writers. Wrong. Uh, it's a huge 274 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: accomplish man. Man. You know obviously it's one of those 275 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: things where that's what it is. It's a mouth stone 276 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: and you place that brick where it needs to go. 277 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't let it wait too heavily. I mean you 278 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: know those uh, you know, critics and things like that. 279 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: But it means a lot, and I appreciate the people 280 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: who take time to write these reviews on my show. 281 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 282 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: with Rashan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations 283 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. I'm gonna just tell you, uh, 284 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: popularity breeds both sides of the conversation. Okay, ride with 285 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: the positive brother, ride that you're living in your heart. 286 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: But I gotta give some love to the actors who 287 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: plays the character Keyshaw. I got it. I want to 288 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: get in your head now, Okay, seeing the athleticism, that's 289 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. Athleticism on these poles. What 290 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: did what did you know? I'm like, I'm lik, oh 291 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: my god, I'm in disbelief. What what what are you 292 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: seeing Jay And when you see this as a guy 293 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: going physically, this is this is incredible what they're doing. Man, 294 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: p Valley changed my whole perspective on pole dancers. And 295 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, obviously sex workers and strippers, whatever name you 296 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: want to um call it. I prefer to call them 297 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: athletes and pole dance right you know they have so 298 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: shout out to Kishar, Like you said, Channon Thornton who 299 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: plays e Shan Jeez put in an incredible amount of 300 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: work and then starts also Valley, also we have these 301 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: stunt doubles come in and do the high flying you know, 302 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: poles dropping almost to the ground stunts and you realize, man, 303 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: you know I could do a thousand push up and 304 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: I still wouldn't bere to climb up and have the 305 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: strength of these women have. And what makes it even 306 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: more incredible than black women doing And so you see them, 307 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: they're almost like these goddess and sitting up down that 308 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: pole and turning and flexing every muscle in their body 309 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: to you know, do these incredible stunts and its BEAUTIFU man, 310 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: his mind blowing, especially when you can see it in 311 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: person up close, and it's even more mind blowing when 312 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: you know they have to do it fifteen times, ten times, 313 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: you know how many ever takes we have to do it. 314 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: These women and these incredible athletes are getting up here 315 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: and making it done, and so our actors, um, they 316 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: do a lot of their own stunts as well. But 317 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: then it's one of those things where they once they 318 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: get tired, they kind of you know, tap in, tag 319 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: in and have these people come in and do the work. 320 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: I wish I knew the stunt up his names, but 321 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: shout out to Shannon Door and Grandy Evan, you know, 322 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Larrifa Johnson, all of our ladies ll being new actors, 323 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: you know who had to come in and do this 324 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: incredible j J J. Be messing up my head, be 325 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: messing up my head, like really they really they bruised up, 326 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: and I look at them, I say, well, if they're 327 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: not tired, I know, let's go to the second season. 328 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, we've got some new characters coming into play. 329 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: Big Teeth is coming in, gotta roll out of jail. 330 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just tell you this second sea and 331 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: there's been a nervous season for me. This tone was 332 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: kind of set when you came out on the porch 333 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: and you and the car slowed down and you reached 334 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: in your back. That set the tone that you live 335 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: in a violet world. You have a world that has 336 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: the ability to create violence. And this episode here the 337 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: season as as as you're on the road, you're out 338 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: there with Key Shahn's character out there, you're doing the 339 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: Dirty Dozen tour. And so he has let out of jail. 340 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: Explained to him him his role, but not too much 341 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: detail because I want people to watch the show, Yes, sir, UM, Yeah, man, 342 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: he was. He is one of the characters that we 343 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: love Valley, one of the new characters. UM. Shout out 344 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: to the Tory Hall for finding John Stewart. You know, 345 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: John Stewart was on UM in BBC's uh so He's playlists. 346 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Also Luke Cage also a lot of theater in New York. 347 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: So I was already uh found with him and his work. 348 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: So when found out, I had to work opposite of 349 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: my said, man, it's gonna be powerful and uh he's 350 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: another character man that is very much a real person. UM. 351 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: You know, in our society, people who have been in 352 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: prison and come out traumatized. UM. For one, because of 353 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: their sexual orientation and then for two because of just 354 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: not being able to be acclimated to the real world circumstances. 355 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: And in his said case, you know, it's one of 356 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: those things where we see this character, we know this 357 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: character in real life, but we're now getting opportunity to 358 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: see the story played out on on screen and it 359 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: is very um, just all levels man without like I said, 360 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: with I've given too much away. I don't want to 361 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 1: tell too much of this storyline. But you see him 362 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: go through every level of who this man is and 363 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: struggling with this sexual identity. So it was, like I said, 364 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: to struggling to be a black man in society. So 365 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: it's beautiful. And by time we get to the end 366 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: of the season, Uh, it's a roller coastal rived man. 367 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: It really does, taking on these very highs and then 368 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 1: you have some very loads the character as well as 369 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: the murders. So I'm excited to share that screen. Well, 370 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: one thing we can talk about is that in going 371 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: on the Road, you're leaving a love relationship that you're 372 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: maintaining as you travel and trying to reconnect because you've 373 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: done some things and kind of damage that particular relationship. 374 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: So talk about that whole journey that you're putting together 375 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: there and how that's gonna come across. But I can't 376 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: give away too much. Well, I'm not I'm not talking 377 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: about going too far beyond episodes i've seen. I'm talking 378 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: about emotionally, you know, you made a mistake. This is 379 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: a love relationship and at the time, you could have 380 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: stood up for him. And that's what he's that's what 381 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: he's feeling right now, right he's um. You know, it's complex, man. 382 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where a little murder. I 383 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: think it was ready at one point in season one. 384 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, but when Little Murders 385 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: came into the office, I was telling Clippery, you know, 386 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: I want to take her on the date. I want 387 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: to hit us us to be out. And then ever 388 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: she gave a little murder this really really kind of 389 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: scary monologue about what could possibly happen to them, and 390 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: so then that kind of defleted, that kind of deflated 391 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: the confidence around you know, being cohe is and and 392 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: they wanting to be as open as possible, and so 393 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he intended to hurt Cliffords feelings and 394 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: Murder episode eight, but it happened but I think he 395 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: knew immediately that he had to redeem himself. Some interviewing, 396 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: j R. Falls Nicholson that he's one of the stars 397 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: of P Valley. He plays the character a little murder. 398 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: If you don't know about P vallet on Rotten Tomatoes, 399 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: the show confronts and illustration realities of domestic violence. It 400 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: really is dead on suicide. Uh, I can't forget. Uh. 401 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: The church is involved here, the COVID is involved here, 402 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: the black politics is involved here, a racial division is 403 00:20:53,920 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: involved here. Um humor is involved here because they all 404 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: levels man, all levels cantorious. She says that pretty often 405 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: that Pete Valley is dark, it's deep, Um, it's sirrtual, 406 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, and it just it works on all levels. 407 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where, um, you know, 408 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: the storytelling it kind of penetrates through every culture, I think, 409 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: um culture, It crosses cultural boundaries and all types of ways. 410 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: And like you said, yeah, you're gonna have some dark 411 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: moments and you gonna have some really funny moment. Shout 412 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: out to Loretta Dubar. She's one of my favorite characters. 413 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: Come on down, come on now, come on, you know, 414 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: and all of her comic relief. Man, She's just she's great. 415 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: She really is one of the best character and obviously 416 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: Uncle Clipper and what Nico, what he brings to that character, 417 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: what he brings to her. So and then I think 418 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: Little Murder is funny too, Man, Little Murder, that a 419 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: lot of funny moments, but also a lot of dark 420 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: and heavy. I'm just call you a little Murder, Little Murder. 421 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: Let me tell you man, I'll be scared for you. Man. 422 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: You know you've been out there the streets. Brother, you 423 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: can I can't lose your Little Murder. I can't lose you. 424 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: Like said, when they're for that car pulled up, I 425 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: thought they're gonna take you out, you ready, but they 426 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: that you know, And it's funny that guy who plays 427 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: that character pull up in the car, one of the 428 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: characters from Queen and Slim. A lot of people recognize 429 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: and they knew what he did in that moment. So 430 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's just good storytelling about the Tory man. 431 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: But you know, I promise you a Little Murder ain't 432 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: going nowhere, and uh, you know you'll be able to 433 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: see him end out this journey in season two for sure. 434 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Um so without spoiling too much. But thank you for 435 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: having me. Man, I'm sorry that I had to look 436 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: at brother. Don't don't apologize your star stars, don't apologize. 437 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a bless that I'm able to have 438 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: a real good conversation. Also, let you know that I 439 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not just giving you your narrow questions 440 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: and allow you to communicate the sincerity of your career 441 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: what you're doing on the show. But if you have 442 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: not watched the audience, listen to me. You'll if you 443 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: have not watched P Valley Sunday's ten pm Eastern and 444 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: Pacific standard time set you set your time, don't even 445 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: record it because you want to watch it and then 446 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: talk about it. See, I'm waiting them to do a 447 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: post show, share the post show, because that's what's coming up, 448 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: the post show, because social media is demanding it. Yea 449 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: that Brittany, y'all need a post show. Come on, come on. 450 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: They did it with Power, they did with Power, let's 451 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna do it with P Valley. Okay, but brother, you'd 452 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: be safe. Man. I love your brother, and stay strong, 453 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: and man, tell Nico High my boy John Stewart, he's 454 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: out of Atlanta who was not playing Big Tico on 455 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: the show. Tell him high because I interviewed when he 456 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 1: was on Zoe's. So I got a little family over 457 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: there working out there. Man. We get all y'all on 458 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: my show, man and I support y'all one. Okay, keep winning, Okay, brother, 459 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: Yes I will. Likewise brother must love to thank you cool. 460 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: If you want to see an interview any or see 461 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: or hear any of my interviews, please go to money 462 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: Making Conversation dot com. We'll be right back with more 463 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations Masterclass with rus Sean McDonald. You are 464 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration 465 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: with Rashan McDonald. I'm Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation 466 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: master Class with your daily minute of Inspiration. I said 467 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: down with my girl, Emmy Award winning journalist, TV host, 468 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: television executive producer and spell mngrad Sean Robinson. She's on 469 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: the show to talk about her new endeavors and the 470 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: importance of having a vision that fuse your passion keep 471 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: on pushing. It was another project that I have been 472 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: literally working on for probably about at least eight years, 473 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, got real close and then it didn't happen, 474 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: and then somebody just called back, Oh, hey, do you 475 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: still have that project you might be interested in that. 476 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I still got him. So just know 477 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: that there's certain things that are going to take longer 478 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: to materialize. You could listen to this full interview with 479 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: Sean Robinson's available on money Making Conversation dot com. Now 480 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations master Class with Rashan McDonald. 481 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host for 482 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions 483 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of 484 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: your paycheck. Mine is inspired people to accomplish their goals 485 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: and live their very best life. It's time to stop 486 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories to start writing your own. 487 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you 488 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 1: have a gift, leave with your gifts and don't let 489 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning or 490 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: living your dreams. My guess is Dr T. M. Robinson 491 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: mostly affectionately the only as mostly and this show we 492 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: will call her doctor Mosely. She's counseling psychology. She's a 493 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: counseling psychologist and sports mental health expert, which is very 494 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: very important. It seems to be out there now and 495 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: it really want to talk a little bit back because 496 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't exposed like this. So we had a lot 497 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: of years and decades and maybe centuries of athletes who 498 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: had this invincibility role. They had to play control the 499 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: vulnerability or people would have deemed that is weak. She's 500 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: a principle and the managing partner mostly and a socialist 501 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: consulting which is the umbrella brand for counseling and psychological 502 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: services sports performance because sports performance consulting inclusive belonging to 503 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: training and culturally responsive leadership development. Dr Moslely developed a 504 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: sports mental health and wellness playbook and cutting edge Turkey 505 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: solution to one of the most challenging issues in sports. 506 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: And she needs anap the mental health needs of athletes. 507 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: Please work with the Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Dr tm 508 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: Robinson Mosley. How are you doing. I'm doing very well 509 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: this morning. Thank you so much for having me well. 510 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. I know we've had a little disconnect 511 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: here and there, but I wanted to get you on 512 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: the call today. We call in the video to talk 513 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: about this because you know, like Kevin you Love a 514 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: few years ago came out and admitted that he had 515 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: some issues, and we see more and more athletes coming out. 516 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I watched my daughter who was a was a Tina's 517 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: phenomen and I don't know if you know, I always 518 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: told my wife, I don't know if that's what she 519 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: really wanted to do. She was just very good at it. 520 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: And so that's the psychological So I'm a moment you 521 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: have to deal with that. You have children out there 522 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: doing things, are functioning and a role that they may 523 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: not be doing, but they just want to appease the parents. 524 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: So what role do you play at all this, Dr Mosley, 525 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: Because we're gonna back up a little bit and uh 526 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: and so we can move forward to fully understand why 527 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: it's so important to you and is there an endgame 528 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: to all of this? Well, thank you so much for that. 529 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: And I really appreciate your perspective too, because you've had 530 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: a firsthand experience of the pressures that come with being 531 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: at the highest level of sport. And it's not just 532 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: the the athlete, it's the people in their ecosystem that 533 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: are impacted too, so their families. So that's that's something 534 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: even to talk about. But UM, the role that I 535 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: played largely is working with these organizations so that they 536 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: can build winning team cultures UM and winning teams UM. 537 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: And by doing that to make sure that we are 538 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: invested in giving them HIM a full service program that 539 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: embow it really empowers them to develop inclusive, impactic leaders. 540 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: So these leaders can lead with tools and the game 541 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: plan on how to kind foster a culture that's conducive 542 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: to high performing teams. Because it's not just enough to 543 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: make sure that the athletes or the coaches UM and 544 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: the trainers and votes have the tools that they need 545 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: to be successful on the field. The things that happened 546 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: beyond the game impact what happens during the game. And 547 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: so it's not enough for me to show up and 548 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: make sure that the athletes have the resources and the 549 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: tools and strategies if we're sending them right back into 550 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: an environment that's not conducive to getting the absolute best 551 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: out of them. So the Wellness and Performance Playbook Program 552 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: UH is kind of a custom designed UM high intensity, 553 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: high performing approach UM specifically for leaders as well as 554 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: the teams and the athletes. And we've helped over for 555 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: the organization across collegiate and professional sports UM and those 556 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: teams have won championships, and so we're connecting that peak performance, 557 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: mental health, and well being are connected to winning. And 558 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: that's the key. Here is the key conversation too, about 559 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: there's a physical side of mental health and there's a 560 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: mental side of mental health. And let's let's slide back 561 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: to the physical side. When when sports and generals start 562 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: admitting there is a problem that we're talking about concussions 563 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: and admitting that we are athletes going out there who 564 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: are either concussed, which means they were incoherent and they 565 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: were giving that smelling salt they staggered back out on 566 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: the field, and if they didn't go back on the field, 567 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: some people might say they were a weak a sense 568 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: of toughness. Now, because let's if we can talk about that, 569 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: because then after that was exposed, then we start talking 570 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: about the mental issues of mental health, because if you 571 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: can't expose one without admitting something to the the other. And 572 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: I think the bigger problem is not so much the concussion, 573 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: it's the admission that I don't feel good, I don't 574 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: feel right, I'm uncomfortable, I need help. So am I 575 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: am I writing talking about the concussion exposure from a 576 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: physical side lead to more exposure to the mental side. UM. 577 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: I think UM talking about c t E and talking 578 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: about between UM in the NFL opened the door for 579 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: some conversations around that because it ended up being something 580 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: connected to a phenomenon that was connected to sport. I 581 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: think the interesting thing is that our mind and bodies 582 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: are injured connected, there's no separation. And we always say 583 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: in our business the injuries are not just physical, because 584 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: when you're injured, it impacts the well your ability to 585 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: function um let alone kind of in your sport, but 586 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: beyond it, and there's an exchange there. And the challenge 587 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: is that even when you're looking at injuries, the concerned 588 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: is am I going to get back to where I am? 589 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: Am I gonna be able to perform again? UM? If 590 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: you're not at a place where you were able to 591 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: rehab and have a lot of support around you, it 592 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: can be a real challenging process and can be even 593 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: more detrimental to the initial injury as you try to recover, 594 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: because not only do you have the pressures of am 595 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: I going to be able to get back to where 596 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: I was? You were extremely isolated and lonely, and that 597 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: also leads to some behaviors that can be really challenging. Right, 598 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: we're talking to Dr T. M. Robinson Moseley affectionately no One. 599 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: That's mostly we'll be calling the Dr Moseley on this show. 600 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: She developed a sports mental Health and Wellness playbook, a 601 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: cutting edge, turnkey solution to one of the most challenging 602 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: issues in sports, the mental health needs of the athlete. 603 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: One of the things that we've known a lot is 604 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: in the black and brown communities things these are words 605 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: that you don't hear therapy, mental health, depression, trauma and 606 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: where used to culpe or what are the resources. Let's 607 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: start with therapy and then this because I don't want 608 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: to like a lump them all together. Okay, So in 609 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: the black and ground community, wires that whire is the 610 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: word therapy that brought up and how can we make 611 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: it a normal form of conversation when it comes to 612 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: care well. I love that we're even saying it. Even 613 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: more so, I'm a second generation psychologist. My mother is 614 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: a is a psychologist, and her her twin sister, and 615 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: so I grew up in the business, so to speak, 616 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: in the business of caring, as I like to say, 617 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: and many of the aspects of mental health which you 618 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: hit on I think really really nicely in your opening, 619 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: have been heavily stigmatized. I'm weak, or I'm not going 620 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: to perform, or I'm not enough. It's from this deficit place, 621 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: and for us, we want to change the game and 622 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: change this conversation. And what's great is we're having more 623 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: and more people, particularly UM young black men and women 624 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: who are at the forefront of talking about this, UM 625 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: the Rozen and um smoan bials and Naomi osaka um 626 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: who have been extremely vulnerable yet extremely powerful and being 627 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: able to make this part of platforms because we don't 628 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: get to peak performance if we don't take care of ourselves. 629 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: And so I always refrain therapy as a way that 630 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: it's very similar to your physical health. If we're going 631 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: to get checkups and get our physicals every year, if 632 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: we're going to do things to make sure our bodies 633 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: are well, we have to do the same things for 634 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: our minds. So there's a common misconception that when I 635 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: say mental health, it's conflated with mental illness or mental disorder, 636 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: and that's not the case. UM. Everybody has mental health 637 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: like they have physical health, and we've got to do 638 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: things to make sure that we check in and therapy 639 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: is a non judgmental, safe professional activity, very similar to 640 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: like being able to go and see a medical provider 641 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: where you're able to make sure that whether you have 642 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: a big problem or you have something that you're grappling with, 643 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: that we can do some preventative work to make sure 644 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't get to a place where it's worse. And 645 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: we're in the middle of a mental health emergency right 646 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: now across the lifespan, especially with our young people in particular, 647 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: and so it's now more important than ever that there's 648 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: access to culturally responsive UM therapy and to have people 649 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: who look like me and look like you to deliver 650 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: those services. And that's exactly what we aim to do 651 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: and what we provide to these world class brands and organizations. 652 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: Depression UM. You know, like I said, just speaking to myself, 653 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: you know I I am a type a driven goal 654 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: orang in person. I am I. You know, if I 655 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: get down, I'm motivated to get up by setting goals. Now, 656 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: that doesn't work for everybody, and that's where the word 657 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: depression sets in. Because if you can explain to my 658 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: audience what exactly is depression? Is depression and what are 659 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: the science So that's a great question, and I love 660 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: that you asked that and talking up personal experience because 661 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: we all have experienced a really difficult time of the 662 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: past couple of years, and we are seeing a lot 663 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: of people using words like depression and anxiety really regularly, 664 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: which I love. And at the same time, depression is 665 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: not just feeling down, um a day or two, or 666 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: maybe you're not feeling great. Um. A depression diagnosis happens 667 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: when if you are having the worst day that you 668 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: can have and you have that uninterrupted for a minimum 669 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: of two weeks to a month. Right, So if you 670 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: are experiencing sadness, hopelessness, if you're feeling fatigued and extremely 671 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: more tired, even if you're getting a lot of sleep, 672 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: or if you're not getting enough sleep, um, if you're 673 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: noticing that there's a shift in wanting to do or 674 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: not do the things that you typically would want to do, 675 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: there's a sheer shift. So depression really is a place 676 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: of not just thinking about depressed mood and I'm feeling 677 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: down and out, but there are all these other indicators 678 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: that you may not be doing so well. So for us, 679 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: it's less for people to know what the diagnosis is 680 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: and more of when we take this from sport the 681 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: fit test, where you are looking at the frequency and 682 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: I experiencing something more common than I am my feeling 683 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: like I don't want to do things I want to do, 684 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm having a difficult time concentrating, I'm sad. The intensity 685 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: of it, does it feel really extreme and severe? And 686 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: then the timing of how long is this happening? So 687 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: we want people to be mindful, not just for themselves, 688 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: the people that care about the most. If they're starting 689 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: to recognize there's been a shift um for people, um 690 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: for the in in a negative way, and that it's 691 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: happened for an extended period of time. Wow, you know, 692 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: I when I say, when you was talking, I heard 693 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: the word motivation. If you're not motivated to get out 694 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: of bed, if you're not motivated to talk to your friends, 695 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: if you're not motivated to go to work, if you're 696 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: not motivated to treat yourself good, you know that's a 697 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: sign of depression. When I heard you that, if your 698 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: motivation just popped out, that's really it is about motivation 699 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: if you've all show will to have to feel good, 700 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: to express happiness, to give happiness, then you have exhibiting 701 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: signs of depression. And because that's because that's drives me. 702 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: I'm motivated to get up, I'm motivated to come to work, 703 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm motivated to eat food. I'm motivated to hang out 704 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: with my friends. If I lose those forms of motivation, 705 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: then there's something wrong with my life and I should 706 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: seek therapy. Yeah, UM or UM at least at that point, 707 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: being able to if you don't have a therapist who 708 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,959 Speaker 1: know how to get one, UM getting a either going 709 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: to your your primary care provider, UM, talking to someone 710 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: who you think you can help, because sometimes people don't 711 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: recognize it, which is why we have to look at 712 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: it as there's the internally external. So yes, this is 713 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: internally happening with us, but it's in response to what's 714 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: happening around us, things that are happening with our families, 715 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: with the environment, with our communities, with the greater kind 716 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: of environment. Looking at COVID and all these shifts, there's 717 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: a lot of grief. We have a lot of collective 718 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: trauma that's happening right now, and so it makes sense 719 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: that there would be that difficulty. I will add this 720 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: additional point to UM to the point of thinking about 721 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: talking about black folks and brown folks, this may look 722 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: very different than what people are used for seeing. So 723 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: often sometimes when UM, if we're thinking about saying like, oh, 724 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: she's got an attitude, or she's always so irritated, that 725 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: could be a sign of depression, or he or she 726 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: is always so angry right, or they get set off 727 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: really easily. Those things oftener what we see too as 728 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: indicators with some of these other aspects that thoughts some 729 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: being depressed. So you can see how sometimes it can 730 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: be harder UM for people to recognize when people are 731 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: having a really hard time. You know the thing about 732 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: it so far, what I wanted to make sure that 733 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 1: you know sports and everyday life really intertwined, because sports 734 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: is competition, and if you don't really if you don't 735 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: know what there's in life you're competing. You competing for 736 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: gas prices and how you get to work, time on 737 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: the freeway, uber food meals, and so people didn't need 738 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: to understand that's why are you talking about She's sports 739 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: now I'm talking about everyday life. And if you break 740 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: it down to normal things. You've realized that that some 741 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: tragic things happening to our young generation. And when I 742 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: go to this area is called suicide attempts. So let 743 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: me just stay some quick facts and I'm gonna have 744 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: Dr Mosley expound on this suicide attempts to increase the 745 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: monkst adolescents age twelve to seventeen, especially young girls. During 746 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen pandemic. According to CDC data, suicide attempts 747 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: among young girls surged by more than during the pandemic. 748 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: That is a giant wild for me. Please explain. Yes, UM, 749 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: we are in the middle of a really serious state 750 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: of emergency around mental health UM, particularly in the this population, 751 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: and athletes and young women are a unique subset. And 752 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: now I had boys in there too as well, because 753 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: we're seeing the numbers of death by suicide and suicide 754 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: attempts skyrocket UM. And this is across every single community. 755 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: And if things things were already kind of free to COVID, 756 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: we were starting to see those rates go up. But 757 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: where those were cracks, now we're seeing shatters because COVID 758 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: has has really impacted this UM. And so there's a 759 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: combination of of several risk factors here, and ideally there 760 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: needs to be more research here, but the risk factors 761 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: being feelings of hopelessness and isolation, which makes sense from 762 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: UM the online school and shutdowns, all of the grief 763 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: and loss around covid UM, if there's been a family 764 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: history of someone who's either died or attempted or close friends, 765 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: if we're seeing a kind of a larger amount of 766 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: UM people in the community, so a local epidemic of suicide, 767 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: which is what we're seeing UM, because we've seen these 768 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: kind of high profile UM that's by suicide here recently. UM. 769 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: Those things impacted as well as barriers to accessing culturally 770 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: responsive care, accessing people like me UM or anyone who's 771 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: able to recognize what these warning signs of distress are. 772 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: I have to say, and we'll probably think this here 773 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: a little further, but social media also plays a huge 774 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: role in this because it only are you disconnected from 775 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: people and isolated, but you have a larger comparison group 776 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: that you are not able to manage what you're seeing 777 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: and what you're experiencing. And young women and young girls 778 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: in particular are more likely to decipherabull lead UM and 779 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: these kids don't have the awareness that this is something 780 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: temporary when things live on the internet forever, and so 781 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: we are seeing so many different factors where UM in 782 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: the same thing when you're looking at entertainers, which I know, 783 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: you know UM. And professional athletes and elite athletes now 784 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: are getting younger and younger where people have access to 785 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: them through the Internet and are able to see them, 786 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: and so pressure breaks types and so they are the 787 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: canaries in the mind that something is happening right now 788 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: with our young people. Right throughout her career, Dr Bowl 789 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: has served as a subject better expert and advice of 790 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: numerous nonprofit organizations, companies in the private sector, collegiate athletics, 791 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: professional sports leagues, and higher education, including world class organizations 792 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: like the Harvard Business School, uh the n c A, A A, 793 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: n b A, NFL, and the United States Air Force. 794 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: You have been considered a trusted advisor to a lot 795 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: of chief executives. How do you what what in your 796 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 1: career when you did light bulb go off that your 797 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: brand was being accepted and when you picked up the 798 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: phone you're sending out the email, You've got the response 799 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: back that you wanted. Dr Mostly, that's a great question, 800 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: I guess in my career, Uh, so I did what 801 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: some folks say, so I am by trading accounting psychologists, 802 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: but for about fifteen years as a higher higher education executive. 803 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: And what started howpening to me is I started getting 804 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: pulled more and more and consulting with my colleagues at 805 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: my institutions and then also other places around how do 806 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: we UM empower our leaders and give them tools and 807 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: resources to foster a culture because you're you're doing something 808 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: that's working, UM, fostering a culture that's conduced at the 809 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: high performing teams and can you help us? And to 810 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: be frank, those calls started coming more often and often 811 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: when I was in the full time gig UM and 812 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: then the last role that I had, I was associated 813 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: by chance to learning the students and the u S 814 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: system and you see Santa Cruz. And the switch for 815 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: me was when my job became my clients. So I 816 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: started doing this work because my purpose and my my 817 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: passions really aligned around making sure that people can do 818 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: their absolute best UM and getting the absolute best out 819 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 1: of people, giving people a safe place to land, which 820 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: means we have to empower leaders to be agile so 821 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 1: that people feel psychology. We say and UM that they 822 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: belonged to something UM, so that our our teams can 823 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: innovate and thrive and ultimately win. That became the moment 824 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,479 Speaker 1: for me when I started seeing that there were real 825 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: kind of outcome measures and impact to the work that 826 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 1: I was doing. So moving um and starting my own 827 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: shop and getting some some brilliant folks around me to 828 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: help me do that became the path. We'll be right 829 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, 830 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, 831 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: there's always different paths to success. You know. Started you 832 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: know your sports jockey like we all, you know Saints fan, 833 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, painting suffering with those with those NFL referees, 834 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure over the last few years. And then Drew 835 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: Brees retires on you and and he he's hinting he 836 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: might come back. That might send you into some mental 837 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: health zone out there for a lot of fans, but 838 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: you know I would. I'm gonna share your example of 839 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: our sports. And I had to walk away from sports 840 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: being a particular sports fan. And I'm from Houston, and 841 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: uh and I would uh. Every Sunday I would watch 842 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: the Oilers play, and when they would lose, I actually 843 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: had a felt like I had a hole in my chest. 844 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: I would just I was just not happy. I was 845 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: just And that's why I realized that I was carrying 846 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: into my everyday life that depression. I gotta use the 847 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: word depression because I think that's where it was. And 848 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: then when I said that, and then I when I 849 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: made the conscious decision that I was just going to 850 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: be a fan of sports. I was not going to 851 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: be passion driven by a certain team and deal with 852 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: their ups and downs and all that. And I've been 853 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,959 Speaker 1: able to handle my relationship with sports a lot better 854 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: because I think I still can say I'm a fan 855 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: of a Houston team, but I'm not so engrossed that 856 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: that's my team. That's my team I live and die, 857 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: but that's my team for now. They're part of the 858 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: sports which I follow. I track. I tracked the Nasholes. 859 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: I tracked you know they're the Rockets. And that that 860 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: has worked out better for me. Is it the trust 861 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: because I changed my technique that's helping me out? Or 862 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: am I doing something wrong? Well? What I love is 863 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: that you were able to identify that something was impacting 864 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: you in a way that didn't feel good and wasn't 865 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: actually let's say performance enhancing, right, Like, you were not 866 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: able to feel good and do your best, and so 867 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: you shifted your technique and your routine and you're the 868 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: way that you connected. And so frankly, in our business, 869 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like you developed some healthier boundaries with something 870 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: that you really enjoyed and you were really connected with. 871 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: And so that approach actually is really excellent, and it's 872 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: what we really aim to do when working with the 873 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: teams and organizations and individuals. How do we think about 874 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: healthy boundaries? And boundaries are things that people think are rigid? Um? 875 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: And I reframed that because boundaries simply just give us 876 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: a rope map for how to connect with each other. 877 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: So what's okay and comfortable and safe for me? What's 878 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: okay and comfortable, um and safe and and kind of 879 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: enhance us performance for you in both ways and we 880 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: take it from there so we can change our relationship 881 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: and connection to something, but healthy boundaries instead of either 882 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: being all in or all nothing right. Well, you know, 883 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,919 Speaker 1: I had to share that because, like I said, I 884 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: clearly remember those Sundays. I clearly remember the depression. I'm 885 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: used to correct worry. It was depressed because I was depressed. 886 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, you know, because you've heard 887 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: stories people throwing things at their TV, people knocking people. Listen, 888 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: we were called the eights. We the people went to 889 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: the game with a bag, you right. So, so what 890 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 1: we're leading it to July, which is the National Minority 891 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: Health Awareness Month. Let's talk about that and make sure 892 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: why that's important to be on my show talking about 893 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,879 Speaker 1: July being National Minority Health and Awareness because we spoke 894 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: about the people of black and brown community. To be 895 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: in the last to talk about therapy, therapy, the last 896 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 1: to talk about mental health, talk about the trauma, seeking 897 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: our resources. Let's talk about that July and its significance 898 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: in our community. Yes, well, I think this year in particular, 899 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: especially even um more some of the last UM few years. 900 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: This becomes even more important because with COVID nineteen exacerbating 901 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: the mental health crisis that has disproportionately impacted marginalized communities 902 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: and and Generation Z, it's really critical for us to 903 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 1: look at the best ways to help people take care 904 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: of themselves. There has been I can't underscore this enough. 905 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 1: The collective grief and trauma we've experienced, not only from 906 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: things that we've lost and people that we've lost that 907 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: will never get back, but we are forever changed by 908 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: this experience, and for some of us not in a 909 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: way that is healthy and will impact their health for 910 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 1: a very long time. So having the focus on what 911 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: this experience and and phenomenon and what UM some kind 912 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: of mental health UM indicators that things are not going 913 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: as great or that things are going really well, couching 914 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: that in what that looks like for our communities, for 915 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: black and brown communities especially important because we're not often 916 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: focused on that, and so being able to highlight UM 917 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 1: mental health providers that would be excellent for the community. 918 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: How do you recognize when your your family member or 919 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: loved one or your children are having a hard time? 920 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: What do you do about that? And so we are 921 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: at the intersection of all of these things. I always 922 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: like to say, we like to identify these strategies and 923 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: tools UM that are important UM but also culturally responsive 924 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: which you means of respect, it really reflects your experience. 925 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 1: And then I have a team at called babulepend of 926 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: Experts UM where we are a diverse team of mental 927 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: health and medical providers who are accessible and provide these services. 928 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: And so it's access to people who look like you 929 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: and um kind of treatment recommendations and support that really 930 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: speak to your experience. Well, I'm speaking to Dr T M. 931 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: Robinson Mosley effectually loans mostly to call it Dr Moseley. Uh. 932 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 1: My whole thing is that she developed the Sports Mental 933 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: Health and Wellness Playbook. I just want you to remove 934 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,399 Speaker 1: the word sports out. She has developed the Mental Health 935 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: and Wellness Playbook. It's a it's a it's a it's 936 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: a cutting edge, turnkey solution to all of the challenging 937 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: issues in life, not just sports. And I brought on 938 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,959 Speaker 1: my show to let you understand that mental health issues 939 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: that you see on TV because these high profile athletes 940 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: are publicizing and making admissions that something that writing their 941 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: life and they want to sit down, they want to 942 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: walk away from the game. This game may not be 943 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: the sport I envisioned to be my career. It's a 944 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 1: good thing. And I want to thank you Dr Moseley 945 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: for coming on my show and sharing some of your 946 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: time and and definitely want to bring you back. Like 947 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: I said, and and and just really really get it 948 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: to the corporate side and also the the students side 949 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: and academic side. We touched on it, but nextually I 950 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 1: wanted to bring on the show really to talk about 951 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: what you needed to talk about your recognized brand as 952 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 1: a sports mental health expert, and also the month of July. 953 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 1: But this is a bigger picture you're playing out there 954 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: and we need to definitely continue this conversation and their 955 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: ongoing relationship. Yeah, I agree, and I'll tell you what. 956 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: We use sport as a conduit as a framework because 957 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,439 Speaker 1: at our best, sport can teach us really valuable things 958 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: about belonging, getting the best side of people, overcoming adversity, 959 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: being resilient and agile. And so we work with UM, 960 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: higher education, the technology, with nonprofits UM, even with the 961 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: military and the government with special ops in the Air 962 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 1: Force around how do we do that in a way 963 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: that feels UM empathic leaders and an environment that's condused 964 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: to get in the best side of people. So I 965 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: would love to talk more with you about how we 966 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: take that framework and we use it across these high 967 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: end into the impacting it as good. You allowed me 968 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: to share some personal stories and I think being honest 969 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: about my stories. Hopefully will and they will people to 970 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 1: be honest about their lives. But thank you for coming 971 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversation, uh master Class, Dr Moses. You're 972 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 1: amazing to appreciate that I would see you in the future. Okay, great, 973 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 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