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Speaker 2: Episode twenty eight twelve that canceled rack. We got nine

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Speaker 2: comments on this feedback episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, you know, feedback feedback episodes get

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Speaker 2: what y'all want to talk about. Of course, the first

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Speaker 2: person to reply is yeah, Apia says, as if I

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Speaker 2: My job, and I've seen many people who have higher

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Speaker 2: think the higher you come, the more lots of people

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Speaker 2: Maybe we just don't see the full spectrum. I don't

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Speaker 2: have self doubt about my capabilities. I'm really very smart.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I listen to your show and do work hard.

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Speaker 2: I saw them funny and charming coworkers normally enjoy me

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Speaker 2: we love to see the confidence. She also writes back

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Speaker 2: in to talk about her friend Saga, her black friend Saga.

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Speaker 2: The friend Saga continues, I texted her that we could

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Speaker 2: that's when I'm off work. We could go for a walk.

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Speaker 2: We could bring her smaller child with her. She could

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Speaker 2: bring up a smaller child with her. That's a good activity,

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Speaker 2: even if you don't have a babysitter. She said, she

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Speaker 2: Besides everything else, I'm pretty busy, don't have much time

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Speaker 2: for new friends. But if this person already shares my

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Speaker 2: hobby and seems super cool, that's obviously great. The chance

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Speaker 2: we see each other on a regular basis in yoga

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Speaker 2: and have pharmaceuticals in common as well, and the same name.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget that. That's huge.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the thing I feel like the tiredest is

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Speaker 2: I know this isn't everybody, but the people that write

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people listen and they got

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Speaker 2: But this ain't about you know what. The replies to

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Speaker 2: her comment classical R and B lover good luck were

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Speaker 2: rooting for you, eve E. Way to go, Apia, What

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Speaker 2: the hell you got here?

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Speaker 7: Change your hearts and minds to the people.

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Speaker 3: What these are some? Wow? This is amazing, Jay full rights.

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Speaker 2: Then I just left my first voicemail I think, and

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Speaker 2: I have a newfound empathy.

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Speaker 3: For folks who get cut off.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was taking talking like an auctioneer,

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Speaker 3: Woo.

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Speaker 2: Also, Apia has made me do a one eighty on

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Speaker 2: her Black Friend saga.

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Speaker 3: I'm rooting for her like it's the black direct. Oh shit, even.

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Speaker 7: J full one huh at a tie.

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Speaker 3: This makes me happy, says Apia.

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Speaker 2: Wow, alright, good luck man, Classic R and B lover

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Speaker 2: says my action. My answer to the pole, which is

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Speaker 2: have you noticed movie theater concession slowing down? Which is

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Speaker 2: a poll inspired by our good friend nick Ju. I

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Speaker 2: saw her saying that on Twitter, and I believe she

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Speaker 2: even addressed it on her podcast, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I was like, yes, this, I've been I never stopped

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Speaker 2: going to the movies really like I've been going for

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Speaker 3: But but it fell off.

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Speaker 2: Even if you got the AMC stuffs thinging, it fell off,

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Speaker 2: like the only time you really get good service is

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Speaker 2: now today. Fucked up, not fucked up, but switched up

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Speaker 2: the times to where you gotta go to the movies

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Speaker 2: at these weird times because they don't show them. They

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Speaker 2: then they have a seven o'clock show in ten. Well

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Speaker 2: so we have to go to movies at weird times

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Speaker 2: like three o'clock. No one's going to those movies. Then

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Speaker 2: we get fast service because it ain't nobody there.

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Speaker 7: Right, and so you can roll with a staff of

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Speaker 7: free because nobody's fucking.

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Speaker 3: In that bitch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like they got to actually go get behind the

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Speaker 2: counter because they was just chilling because they just make

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Speaker 2: nobody show up, right, So Classgarne b Lover says my

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Speaker 2: answer to the poe, although it's not an optionist, I

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Speaker 2: don't know I've been to the concession stand. I've not

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Speaker 2: been to the concession stand since COVID. There's no movie

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Speaker 2: I want to see badly enough to risk it. Strangely,

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Speaker 2: I have been to a few restaurants when family friend

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Speaker 2: functions required it. So hipocrisy, thy name is me? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so this is my theory. The people that say they

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Speaker 2: ain't go to the movies because of COVID are lying.

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Speaker 2: It's not because of COVID, and it's fine. It's because,

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Speaker 2: like you pointed out, you've done other shit and most

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Speaker 2: people have and Honestly, COVID is not spreading through the

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Speaker 2: movie theater for real. Like the places that people are

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Speaker 2: bunch of people who aren't wearing masks for a long,

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Speaker 2: prolonged period of time. Right, that's not really happening in

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Speaker 2: the movies that often just based on how sparse movie

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Speaker 2: attendance is obviously the sign seating thing. It's not that

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Speaker 2: it's impossible or anything, but it's just we're not seeing

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Speaker 2: these Like remember when we were tracing all the outbreaks,

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Speaker 2: a black panther because it's not happening. I just think,

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Speaker 2: you know, all the reasons we said about movies and

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Speaker 7: And all that stuff, and they're blaming COVID as an

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Speaker 3: I mean, the algorithm is the algorithm.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, I'll see what the pill is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they they fucking they'll pull up the clip

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Speaker 7: And that's what matters because for a lot of people

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Speaker 2: this is what we gotta deal with, is yo ass

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Speaker 3: Uh, they didn't like they don't like real commune. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: This shit ain't funny and it's not funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give it up to you like it does.

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Speaker 7: a niche market, honestly, like going to the theaters is

439
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Speaker 7: going to be a niche market.

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Speaker 3: Because we've lost people keep forgetting that.

441
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Speaker 2: Like we've had several moments during the pandemic where it's

442
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Speaker 2: like such and such movies save the theaters, and then

443
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: and then a few months later it's like the theaters

444
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 2: and need saving again. And with people starting to do

445
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 2: this thing where they're they're turning on Marvel movies. But honestly,

446
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: it's not like the other movies are able to keep

447
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Speaker 2: the economy aflow.

448
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Speaker 3: They're not.

449
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Speaker 2: And it's funny to see people that claim to love

450
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Speaker 2: movies and be moviegoers join in on this, like we're

451
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 2: anti the major studio, big tip pole movies. Well I'm sorry, y'all.

452
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 2: Nothing else is keeping the movies alive. So at the

453
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Speaker 2: theaters alive. So when everything does have a smaller budget,

454
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 2: when everything because this is what people keep missing, they go, well,

455
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: it's they're looking at these studios and the profit model

456
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, but the theater doesn't operate on that.

457
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Speaker 2: So like, let's say somehow Marvel spent two hundred million,

458
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: three hundred million dollars on the movie, right, but it

459
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: pulls in, uh, I don't know, five hundred million dollars

460
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Speaker 2: and it doesn't really break even once you add all

461
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Speaker 2: the cost and da da da. We look at the

462
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Speaker 2: studio and go but it didn't make its money back.

463
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to the theater. The theater has nothing

464
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Speaker 2: to do with the budget of the studio. Theaters saw

465
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Speaker 2: x amount of people come in and out because they

466
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Speaker 2: saw a movie that is dying, yes, and so it's

467
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Speaker 2: that's not a Marvel thing.

468
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Speaker 3: The problem is.

469
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Speaker 2: That only Marvel, only these franchises were the things that

470
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Speaker 2: got enough people out of their chairs and couches to

471
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Speaker 2: come sitt the couches and the chairs in the movie theater,

472
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Speaker 2: and those were.

473
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Speaker 7: The things that was sustaining the theaters where And in

474
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Speaker 7: my opinion, you need both. You need the big tempos,

475
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 7: you need the small tempoles. But these people didn't think

476
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 7: that the movie industry can only function with these small tippoles.

477
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 7: It's a lot because a lot of times these small

478
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Speaker 7: tippole movies, particularly somewhere here in Charlotte, you get two

479
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 7: niche in these movies. It's like in the one theater

480
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Speaker 7: showing at one time on one day for one month.

481
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Speaker 7: And so you're like, well, bitch, I can't go in

482
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Speaker 7: the middle of downtown Charlotte at the movie theater that

483
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Speaker 7: nobody uses and the theater that's only open for just

484
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Speaker 7: that one movie. So it's like, y'all want people to

485
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Speaker 7: watch these movies. But a lot of times these movies

486
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Speaker 7: don't a lot of times, depending on they're not an AMC,

487
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Speaker 7: they're not in regal, they're not in these theaters.

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Speaker 3: If they are, they have.

489
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Speaker 7: Wild times, weird times, times nobody can see them.

490
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Speaker 2: They also go on to say, yes, did you guys

491
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Speaker 2: ever happen to mention the first movie you got to

492
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Speaker 2: see in the theaters with no adult supervision?

493
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Speaker 3: Scary movie too for me.

494
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Speaker 2: I was twelve, and my older siblings and cousin no

495
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Speaker 2: one was quite eighteen yet, but the eldest was just

496
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Speaker 2: shy of it.

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Speaker 3: We had a blast that day.

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Speaker 2: Karen, you remember the first movie you saw in the

499
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Speaker 2: theater without parental supervision?

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Speaker 3: I know that sound wide, but no, I think I.

501
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: Remember mine, And I'm not one hundred percent sure, but

502
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Speaker 2: I think it was this one Jurassic Park. And Jurassic

503
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Speaker 2: Park is a movie that changed my life forever because

504
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: my brother and I, I believe, went to see it

505
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Speaker 2: and it was so crowded. It was so like this

506
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: was this movie was like a hit, right, And we

507
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: bought our tickets and we did not have any seats left.

508
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: It like this was before sign seasons and all that shit.

509
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: So we just kept walking down until we got to

510
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Speaker 2: the front of the theater. That's the only place that

511
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: were seats left. So we sat in the front row

512
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Speaker 2: in the middle, in front of this giant ass movie screen.

513
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Speaker 2: The worst seats in the house according to many people.

514
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: And when I tell you, I felt like that motherfucking

515
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: t Rex was coming out the screen to get us.

516
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: And I've never watched movies any different way since I've

517
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: sitt near the front. Like, I don't sit in the

518
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: very front those two seats, although if those a is

519
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: what was left, I would sit there because I'm just

520
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of that anymore. No, but I sit

521
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Speaker 2: near the front. We sit near the front, and it

522
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: is a true immersive experience.

523
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Speaker 3: I do not and it's not. I mean, look, we

524
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Speaker 3: need all types.

525
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Speaker 2: I'm glad people enjoy wherever they sit, but if I

526
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Speaker 2: have to sit in the middle and near their back,

527
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: I don't like it me either, because I'm like, this

528
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: feel like TV to me.

529
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I feel the same way Roger.

530
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Speaker 7: I'm like, I could have watched the TV at the

531
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 7: fucking house, Like I want to be close. I want

532
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 7: to you know, if I'm watching something and somebody flies

533
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Speaker 7: to the bottom of the screen, to the top of screen,

534
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 7: I want my eyes to have to drag. It's just

535
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Speaker 7: something about just that immersive feeling. And I do understand why,

536
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 7: you know, some people didn't like it because over the

537
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 7: years movie theaters used to go theaters to do this

538
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 7: fucked up shit where the front row used to be

539
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 7: literally fucking face to the screen, But as the years passed,

540
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 7: they were forced to push that shit back because people

541
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 7: like this is too goddamn close, which it was. You

542
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 7: would literally have to creak your neck up, and I

543
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 7: think a lot of people have been traumatized by that.

544
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Speaker 7: So for a lot of people that are like, I'm

545
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 7: not going down there.

546
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Speaker 2: And I want to say, we didn't obviously scream too

547
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 2: is you're younger than me, but screamed one. I remember

548
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: also sitting in the front of the theater at the

549
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: same at the same location, and once again, much scarier

550
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: being in the front than in the back, Like felt

551
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: like that nigga was gonna stab me.

552
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Speaker 3: It was so good. I love an immersive experience.

553
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 7: And I think I might be wrong, but I think

554
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Speaker 7: one of the very first movies that I've seen without

555
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Speaker 7: parental guides was me and a friend we had went

556
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 7: to go see Twins, and it was not a good movie,

557
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 7: but I do remember the experience. I just remember being

558
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 7: bored to goddamn death watching Twins because I was like,

559
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 7: y'all lied to me.

560
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: Y'all told me this is a goddamn comedy.

561
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, and I remember a bunch of movies

562
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 2: that I went to, but I just don't remember like

563
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: at Queen's Park. I surely went to some movies, but

564
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: they were hood movies, and I just don't remember the

565
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 2: year that came out and which ones I had. Parents

566
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: that are not same because I know, like Boys in

567
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: the Hood. I went to see that Panther, like a

568
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff in there.

569
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Speaker 3: Who's the Man? I saw that in there?

570
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Speaker 2: A bunch of these movies I saw with Karen, you know,

571
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: so I know it wasn't parental parents with us, but

572
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Speaker 2: I think Jurassic Park may have been my first. All right,

573
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Speaker 2: let's check out the pole results. Have you noticed the

574
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Speaker 2: concessions at the movie theater slowing down thirty three percent? Yes,

575
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Speaker 2: forty three percent No, And I don't go to the

576
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: movies twenty four percent. Now, I know someone said I

577
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: should have had an I don't know, but this is

578
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: why I got a call.

579
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: Your bluff. On that call, it's a garr and b lover.

580
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: I had a I don't.

581
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: Go to the movies, and you said you don't go

582
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: to the movies. So you should have said I don't

583
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: go to the movies. You know what I mean, you

584
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: don't You know, if you go to the movies and

585
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: you don't go to the concessions, stand you don't go,

586
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: then you put it in I don't go to the movies.

587
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 3: It counts the same messing up my science.

588
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: The polls results on this website very similar. Thirty six

589
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: percent yes they've noticed a slow down, twenty eight percent

590
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: have not, and then thirty five percent don't go to

591
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: the movie.

592
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: So a lot more people don't go to the movies.

593
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Speaker 2: On the Spotify poll, the Q and A was Black

594
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: Friday deal is twelve five and uh, nobody responded to

595
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: it because they would They just started signing up, and

596
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: we did have a lot of new people sign up,

597
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people renew. I want to just take

598
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: the time to say thank you to the audience. And

599
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: some people, you know, they cancel. I don't blame you.

600
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: You gotta get get it up out of there, not knocking.

601
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: You know, we're not trying to hold anybody.

602
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 7: Situation change and circumstances changed. You're like, hey, I might

603
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 7: come back, I might not.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

605
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like there are changes that are gonna

606
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: come to the to it eventually because I have to.

607
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: There's just an issue with some stuff behind the scenes

608
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: in our RSS feed stuff that I have to change

609
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 2: everything some probably early next year, and I'll be sending

610
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: out emails to premium people. But yeah, basically, like, if

611
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 2: you're not a member of the site that's premium, at

612
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: some point, you're just gonna one lose access to the

613
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Speaker 2: RSS feeds just because I really don't have a choice,

614
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Speaker 2: because these motherfuckers won't get on their job.

615
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: All right, let's not move well on that. Let's go

616
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Speaker 3: to the next episode.

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Speaker 2: Episode EPs, so thirteen Christopher Reeve. We had eight comments.

618
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Speaker 2: Appia says I grew with Rod about not gay actors

619
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Speaker 2: playing gay characters.

620
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: Being too strict here can hurt people.

621
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Speaker 2: Imagine a young actor who isn't even sure about his

622
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: sexuality yet you are forced him to come out even

623
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: if he isn't ready yet, And I thought this would

624
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: be something bad, and pretty much everyone agreed people should

625
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: come out on their own terms.

626
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an aside.

627
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't my main issue, but it's something I've really

628
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: been thinking about for a very very long time because

629
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Speaker 2: I once I noticed it I can't unsee it. It's

630
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: and I get, I get what the point is supposed

631
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: to be. I just don't think what we're doing is working.

632
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: And it's this idea that you know, only gay only

633
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: LGBTQ people can play LGBTQ characters, which you know, and

634
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: it's mostly about how the industry isn't fair and we're

635
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: trying to balance the fairness. I don't and I get

636
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 2: the conundrum. I just don't think it's. One, I'm not

637
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: sure I agree with it in principle correct, But two,

638
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's effective and that we have an

639
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: effective way to truly make this happen, because what I've

640
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: seen in exercise is people target males. They do not

641
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: target women right period. And to me, that is very

642
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: weird because we know just as much about the women

643
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: as you know about the men, which is Julianna Margalis

644
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: is married to a man playing a lesbian. There is

645
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: no campaign, there's no slander, there's no targeting of her.

646
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: If it is, it's such a small group of people

647
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: that it's not become a thing. If that was a

648
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: dude playing, there's a lot more like, oh is he

649
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: really gay?

650
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Speaker 3: Hold on, now you can't play this character if you're not.

651
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: And it's like, and we'll get to it, lady, because

652
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: I think someone wrote in with a great example. But yeah,

653
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: it's like we're we're forcefully outing just the dudes, and

654
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: in practice it is just not working in the way

655
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Speaker 2: that I think theoretically people will like it to work.

656
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: And most and most importantly, like we do have gay

657
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: and by dudes playing straight characters, they're just even they

658
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: understand the consequences of coming out and they don't want

659
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: to deal with it because our society is shipped and.

660
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: It's not a larger problem.

661
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really ready to truly embrace and be

662
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: fair minded about people's sexuality and gender stuff. So we're

663
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: we're really going fuck your career for us at home.

664
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: We want to feel good about this, and and it

665
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: seems like all we're doing is.

666
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: Fucking up people's careers. Both ways.

667
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: We're fucking up gay people's careers because we know once

668
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: you come out as gay, a lot of the opportunities

669
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: go away, and we're fucking up straight people's careers or

670
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: people in the closet's careers because we're like, you better

671
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: come out and deal with the fallout from that, so

672
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: we will.

673
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: Feel good at home.

674
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: And the one thing I've noticed about Twitter too is

675
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: like Twitter is very twitter social media.

676
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: We're very good at like.

677
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: Giving feeling sorry for the aggrieved person, but we don't

678
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: really replace it with anything, so like we'll be like, oh,

679
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: that's so sad that happened to you. You know, this

680
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: is something that I've noticed with the Israel Palestine thing.

681
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: If someone speaks out for Palestine and then they lose

682
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: all their opportunities, Sure, everybody's outraged for you, but when

683
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: your career is over, your career is over, there's no

684
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: opportunities that we don't have the kind of power to

685
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: be like, all right, so here's how you get.

686
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: A different movie. You know, Like it's just like glad

687
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: you said something by.

688
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 7: Right, And so I as an actor, I can't base

689
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 7: my fucking.

690
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: Career off of that bullshit.

691
00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 7: And on top of that, in certain situations, sometimes online

692
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 7: would be the reason why the person lost their job

693
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 7: in the first place. Then they'll feel bad that the

694
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 7: person lost their particularly they black, a brown, or queer,

695
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 7: check whatever boxes. They'll feel bad the person lost their job.

696
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 7: And the other reason why the person lost their job

697
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 7: in the first place, and then, like you said, there's

698
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 7: no replacement the thing that broke me and the red well, well,

699
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 7: not the thing that broke me, but one of the

700
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 7: things that I seen that kind of bought it to

701
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 7: my attention. The little girl that had that show and

702
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 7: these people had a fucking fit. The show got canceled,

703
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 7: the little girl came out crying, and then they was like, oh,

704
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 7: pull little girls, they bitch y'all complaining is the reason

705
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 7: why she doesn't have a goddamn job.

706
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out my goddamn face.

707
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: And for those that don't know, because Karen gave very

708
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: little details, it was it was a TV animated TV

709
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: show about a black girl and had something to do

710
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: with hair and people, and but a white woman had

711
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: come up with the show black Twitter, despite any true

712
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: evidence confirmingists said, oh, you're the idea of these black

713
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: people who have a I think hair Love was a

714
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: short that was out.

715
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: I think that's what it's called. You stole that idea,

716
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: Da da da.

717
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: And then as more people investigated, as she came forward

718
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: and gave details of her stuff, it comes out, well,

719
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: it's pretty fucking impossible for her to have stolen this

720
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: idea just because of the timing of it.

721
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: Some of her stuff even happened.

722
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: Before hair Love was out there, and people were like,

723
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 2: we're not giving a benefit out.

724
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 3: We don't give a fuck. You should lose your show.

725
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: Fuck you. She lost the show.

726
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: Then the little black girl who had gotten this role

727
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: of a lifetime, possibly breakout role, she put out a

728
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: video on her Instagram like I don't have a show.

729
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: I was looking so forward to this, this is my

730
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: big break blah blah blah, and people were basically in

731
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: the comments like, oh, I'm sorry, you're don't have a show.

732
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: Someone should hire her, And I'm like, someone did hire her.

733
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: She did have a job.

734
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: Correct our internet. My mentality took that job from her,

735
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: and we did. This is not a court of law.

736
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: We did not have any conclusive evidence that any foul

737
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: play happened, but that opportunity went away because studios, for

738
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: the most part, are cowardly. They're not a court of

739
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: law either, their quart of public opinion. They're like, enough

740
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: black people are mad, We're just gonna take away this

741
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: opportunity whatever. We don't want to smoke And yeah, I

742
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: remember we covering down the show, and you're right, Karen,

743
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: that's a great point.

744
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 7: And it has And the thing about that, the online mentality,

745
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 7: I personal, really has to be a balance. It has

746
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 7: to be I understand people getting mad and upset, and

747
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 7: I understand the history of black and brown people being

748
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 7: ignored for our complaints. I completely understand that. But at

749
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 7: the same time, it's very difficult, and the studios need

750
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 7: to decipher what's the difference between a valid complaint and

751
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 7: like just a tack mode. Like sometimes I don't.

752
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: Think the studios will or do need to do that,

753
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, they're a craving

754
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: capitalist entity. They're not a court of law. They're not

755
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: about being fair. If enough people are upset about something,

756
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: they just run away. That's what the fuck they do.

757
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: And and honestly, a lot of the online people know

758
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: that and take advantage of That's why they're always trying

759
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: to like forge some type of campaign. If it wouldn't

760
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: have been that show, it would have been another a

761
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: But the thing we point out on this show is like,

762
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: sometimes it's kind of fucked up, and I think you've

763
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: done that. Apia says, I don't claim to always know

764
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: what's right, but when people mostly white people start putting

765
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: black squares on their Instagram. I decided that it was

766
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: stupid at helping no one. It was just a sign like, look,

767
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: I'm a good person that I know what's up.

768
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

769
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: To me, that sign always felt like, hey, leave me alone.

770
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: I don't got nothing to do with it. So I

771
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: didn't do it, and now I'm glad. I remember thinking

772
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: this is so performative and fake and no one can

773
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: make me do it. Make my intuition isn't so bad? Yeah, yeah,

774
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: And it's honestly like, uh, there's a there's a contingent

775
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 2: of folks that it is their online currency to see

776
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: who and what they can influence. But at the same time,

777
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: it's kind of like this gaping black hole that will

778
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: never be satisfied, and so there. I do remember at

779
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: the time there being certain types of black people. I'm

780
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: not gonna cast the spursions on all of them, but

781
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: I have my feelings and thoughts about it, But there

782
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: was a certain type of black person influencer that felt

783
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: like black squares and call your black check on your

784
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: black friends was like the call of the day. And

785
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: they're just a different type of black person than me,

786
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: because to me, I was like, what the fuck do

787
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: this got to do with George Floyd?

788
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: Right? And I don't care. Nope, I need actions. I

789
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: don't care.

790
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: And honestly, like even when the corporations were like, we're

791
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: gonna hire some black people, We're gonna give money to

792
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: some black causes, even that, I was like, I just

793
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: don't have nothing.

794
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 3: To do with George Floyd.

795
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: I mean, take the money while you can get it,

796
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: because white guild is a finite resource I want quickly.

797
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 2: I'll never knock any black person forgetting their money from

798
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: when white people have some bad feelings were elected Trump,

799
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: here's some money. Okay, cool, But do I feel like

800
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: that's progress or doing anything.

801
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: No, I don't think nothing changed.

802
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: I think cops could do exactly what they did to

803
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: George Floyd tomorrow and we'd be going through the same shit.

804
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: It's just if anything can be less of a response.

805
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wasn't one of these people that was

806
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: moved by that, And at the same time, I wanted

807
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: to say I wasn't anger by it. We weren't copping

808
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: on here every day getting mad at people. But I

809
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: feel like people are looking for a solution to anger

810
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: and oppression that they that, but that's not the solution.

811
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: They think these are things they think would help. Oh,

812
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: call me in and check on me. Put up a

813
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: black square so I know you're good. And I'm like,

814
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: that's the thing about racism and oppression. You ain't never

815
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: gonna feel safe. You ain't never gonna truly feel good.

816
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: It's not enough black squares in the world is gonna

817
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: make you fine enough. And you saw when black white

818
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: people were putting up black squares, people started picking on

819
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: them like, oh, you think that's something, bitch, And I'm like,

820
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: y'all asked them to do it, and then you should

821
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: it on them for doing it. Right, When are we

822
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 2: gonna admit the problem bigger than than Instagram and shit?

823
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: Right, make up your mind and.

824
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Says I don't have an opinion about the conflict between

825
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: Palestine and Israel, but I do have an opinion about

826
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: how black people, specifically, out of all minority groups, are

827
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: being called out for the response to it. Focusing on

828
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: black people's reaction makes all past acts of kindness look transactional.

829
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: As you said, it also has a hint of black

830
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: people being ordered to do their job or else, and

831
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: it comes from a need to have black people's still

832
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: of approval in the world of victimhood to validate whichever

833
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: side gets support.

834
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: And yeah, you said everything right there, every fucking thing. Yes, yes,

835
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: And I don't know why are we in it? You

836
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

837
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, so you saw some black people. You saw

838
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: you saw the Black Lives Matter Chicago people, which, if

839
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: you know anything about Black Lives Matter, don't mean shit

840
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: because because of me. Remember their leaderless organization operating as

841
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: ninety million separate entities, and they don't have any like

842
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: global organized moves and stuff if anything. You know, they they've.

843
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 3: Been organizations shit like that. Yeah, that's what I said.

844
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: They've been. They've been throwing parties at mansions and shit.

845
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: They they offered us.

846
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so so already that these this is I know

847
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: it's a short period of time, but Black Lives Morning Matters,

848
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: an organization, is essentially a non factor at this point.

849
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: Was the last time Black Lives Matter showed up and

850
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: did any fucking thing that Like, It's just at this point,

851
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: the slogan and the movement outside of that organization is

852
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: the only remnants of Black Lives Matter. But we ain't

853
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: been talking about the or doing a goddamn thing since

854
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: like maybe right after Trump's election you saw a little

855
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: bit yep.

856
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 7: And after that shit stopped because you started passing lowells

857
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 7: and shit go wh their asses and people say like, hey,

858
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 7: I ain't trying to get my ass.

859
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: Well so I think, but I think white people don't

860
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: check in with us and they don't know so they've

861
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 2: seen that thing. And I'm sure if I was Jewish,

862
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: I probably it would have affected me to because I

863
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: think what Black Lives Matter Chicago did was crash and

864
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 2: over the top and sits very unserious. Because even if

865
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: if they felt a way about that paratrooper fucking flyer,

866
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: which was tasteless and came out on October seventh, let's

867
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: say somehow.

868
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: You're like, I don't think that was bad.

869
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: I do think they was okay, But then when they

870
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: put out the flyer about come to the march to

871
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: try to fuck Palestinian dudes, at some point you have

872
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: to be like, this is not a serious situation.

873
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: You're not being serious, like this is content.

874
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: So either you're serious about deliberation of these people or

875
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: it's about content, because I know, for fu any if

876
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that Black Lives Matter organization would have

877
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: done that shit with a black car something that happened

878
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: in America. If something happened to a bunch of black

879
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: people killed in some or so, a bunch of black

880
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: people involved in some type of conflict, I don't think

881
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: they'd be like, come out to the march, you might

882
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: meet some cute dudes out there. We'd be like, are

883
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: you crazy? So yeah, I do get it. I do

884
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: get why people were upset by it, But in general,

885
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: I understand how they might feel like we need black

886
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: people on our side.

887
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: Both sides feel like that.

888
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: Palestinians feel like that they want Black Americans on their side.

889
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: Jewish people feel like that they want Black Americans on

890
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: their side. But we ain't a monolift. And especially when,

891
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: like I said, when we were having marches and when

892
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: we were having things going on with police brutality in

893
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: like twenty twelve and whatnot, it was online on Twitter

894
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: a lot of Palestinian people that reached out and told

895
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: people how to deal with basically tear gas and riot police,

896
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: and that bond started. As much as people talk about

897
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: the Jewish and Black community, going back to civil rights, Jewish,

898
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean the Palestinian and Black community go back a

899
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: long way too.

900
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: I'm talking black panthers and shit.

901
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: So what it sounds like is a lot of Jewish

902
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: people were not aware of that or they just were

903
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: counting on just kind of like unquestioning loyalty from the

904
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: black community in general in America, and they've been insulted

905
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 2: or shocked or betrayed or whatever in their minds that

906
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: that's not happening. And so it's turned into this hyper

907
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: focus on and ain't it on you blacks and you lesbians.

908
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, y'all, don't know why you think that's

909
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: gonna help, because yelling at those people is not changing anything.

910
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: So you know, anyway, sd Star says, my extended family

911
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: is mixed Black and Jewish, and we've been comparing messages

912
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 2: we've been sent on social media.

913
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: Right, It's right.

914
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: Different demographics are definitely getting fed different messages to us.

915
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: It feels like the differences can't be explained by just

916
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: an algorithms an organized effort to use social media to

917
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: take advantage of the violence in Israel and Gaza. A

918
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: lot of the tiktoks and Instagram reels about Israel seem

919
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: to be designed to tear apart the black and liberal

920
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: coalition that elected Joe Biden. The reason this issue is

921
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: being boosted on social media is that it serves the

922
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: interests of conservatives.

923
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: If young voters, Air.

924
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: Voters, black voters, Jewish voters, and liberal voters are all

925
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: each other's throats in both America and Israel. I know

926
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: that's a conspiracy, but I mean it's not that far

927
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: fetched to me, and I now personally, I do think

928
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: it is the algorithm. I don't think it's like a

929
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: concerted effort from on high. But the thing about the

930
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: algorithm is who programmed the algorithm, right, It's who's in charge.

931
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: Elon munsk is.

932
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: Extremely conservative, definitely right, like right wing, anti semi you know,

933
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: like racist against black people too. Look at the test

934
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: little lawsuits and stuff. You put a guy like that

935
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: in charge of something like Twitter, I feel like he

936
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: takes the breaks off the algorithm. He's losing, he's losing

937
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: corporate sponsorship. I don't think he give a fuck, And

938
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: I think the algorithm, unchecked, as we've seen in the past,

939
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: will always bend towards injustice oppression. It will always You know,

940
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: when Facebook basically helped steal an election, it's because they

941
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: were like, fuck it, we want money. We don't care

942
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: where the money's coming from. The people that had the

943
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: money that were willing to spend it on Facebook if

944
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: they were motherfucking the election of ours, who gives a fuck.

945
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: We just want the money. So I don't know that.

946
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: It's like I don't feel like there's a lever of

947
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: someone in the Illuminati, pills or whatever to be like

948
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: break apart the Democratic coalition and then the other thing.

949
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: This is kind of like with Russian propaganda's well during

950
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen when the election when Trump won. Russia's propaganda

951
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: works because it is based in something real, which is

952
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: the divisions.

953
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: We have in America. Right. They're very good at that,

954
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: And so it's.

955
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: A it's a thin line where we don't want to

956
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: be so over the top that we're like, the man

957
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: did this to us, but we all really do get along,

958
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: and just somehow the propaganda is making us think we don't.

959
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 3: It's one these.

960
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: Are very thin, fragile coalitions between everyone you name, you know,

961
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: and I think the Democratic Party is one of a

962
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: big tent of fragile coalitions and lots of big feelings

963
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: and lots of people that are together by convenience.

964
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: That don't really fuck with each other.

965
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 7: No they don't. They're like, we here because we got

966
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 7: to be here. We're not here because we won't to.

967
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 7: And I don't mean they we hate each other.

968
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: I just mean we don't fuck with each other meaning

969
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: And like like I said, I'm from the South, I

970
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: don't really know much about Jewish people because it wasn't

971
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: tied in my schools.

972
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: We didn't have Jewish people in our community.

973
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: We don't really seem to have a large and I'm

974
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: sure were doing Charlotte. We have like the Jewish version

975
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: of the YMCA and everything, but we don't have like

976
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: a mixing of cultures down here like that. Like you're like,

977
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: I know white people that probably are Jewish, but I

978
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: just didn't don't.

979
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

980
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 2: It never came up, is my point, right, And obviously

981
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: me being black, they it does need to come up.

982
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: You can look at me and see like it's you know,

983
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: it's very obvious.

984
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: But the point being.

985
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: A lot of Americas like that, and so I me

986
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: not knowing enough about their culture and customs and history

987
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: is it's actually a bad thing whenever stuff like this

988
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: comes up. Because I'm coming at this with a lot

989
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: of ignorance. And I don't mean ignorance in the in

990
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: the hateful way, but just not knowing right and and

991
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: we And that's a lot of what the Democratic Party

992
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: is is ignorance. It's okay, gay people vote Democrat. I'm black,

993
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: I vote Democrat. They might not know shit about black

994
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: people stuff. I might not know shit about gay people stuff.

995
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: I just know that these this is the party that

996
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: will try to help both causes. And so whenever that

997
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: party lets one cause down or one cause go, that part,

998
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: that particular part of the coalition will be like, you're

999
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: letting me down. I'm ready to leave right because it

1000
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 2: was fragile because I wasn't really here for the black people.

1001
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't really here for the gay people. I wasn't

1002
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: really here for the immigrant. I was here for just

1003
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: my thing. And that's just a truly human way of

1004
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: looking at it. And it's why it's so fragile. And

1005
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: it don't take much to have have our side be

1006
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: the side that quits. Not a Republican side won't quit

1007
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: because essentially they are there for power and white supremacy

1008
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: and overall over everything, and they don't care if they

1009
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 2: look around and it looks like the most exclusive country

1010
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: club in America, that's good for them. They'll never go

1011
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: home and be like, this is my one issue. The

1012
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: only one issue thing they have currently that's scary to

1013
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: them is the Trump voter. Other than but a lot

1014
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: of those Trump voters are new. They're not old school voters.

1015
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: They're new people who are voting for the first time

1016
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: for Trump, and they might not come back if they

1017
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: can't do it again. But other than that, they don't

1018
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: have one issue voters, those people continue to vote. Kristen says,

1019
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: just popping in because I full of girl at your

1020
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: points about Israel. Anti Semitism and anti Zionism is getting

1021
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: conflated as the same, which is not the case. Also,

1022
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: some Zionists like Michael Ripperport are out here saying crazy

1023
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: wild things about how they Jewish people are better and

1024
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: that's why they survived and thrived. Yeah, yeah, I mean

1025
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: it's like Michael Rapperport is just not a good person

1026
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: to be talking about anything, you know, and he's not

1027
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: helping so white but he's never held like, what are

1028
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: you doing god man, Spike Lee, why did you pick him?

1029
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: He a terrible person?

1030
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: He's so bad and like, and I'm not just talking

1031
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: about this, I just mean, like, I've never seen a

1032
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: Michael Rappaport clipping.

1033
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 3: Thought, that's a great nuanced.

1034
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: Take, right, It's always like this happened a while ago with.

1035
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: We didn't even cover on the show.

1036
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: Because I really thought it was a garbage discussion, but

1037
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: or turned into a garbage discussion led by a bunch

1038
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: of fucked up people. But when it was like black

1039
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: women fighting amongst them, fighting them with black trans women

1040
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 2: this summer and it got really huge on social media,

1041
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 2: but it was the conversations being led by like just hilarious.

1042
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, we can't, we can't have that.

1043
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was it was, But I'm like, look

1044
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: at the people who are siphoning off the attention from

1045
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: this correct. They're people who are controversial attention getters.

1046
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: They're not people who are here.

1047
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: To reconcile, try to have a real conversation, make nuance points,

1048
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: trying to bring everyone together. These are people who are

1049
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: like my brand is, you know, if kaya is speaking

1050
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: out on something, it's probably not good, you know, And

1051
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: there's a place for that type of entertainment, but in

1052
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: a serious discussion about LGBTQ issues.

1053
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: Probably not.

1054
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: We don't want to start with you, And so I

1055
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: didn't even bring that discussion to the show. And I

1056
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: feel like that's how Michael Rappaport is in this discussion

1057
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: about Zionism, and he's gonna just hop on and start

1058
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: insulting people and talking shit, and you're like, I mean,

1059
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: I guess if you agree with that, you might feel like, yes,

1060
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: some catharsists, finally someone said it, but the vast majority

1061
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: of people are gonna be like, that's not how you

1062
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: resolve a conflict. That's not how you communicate with each other,

1063
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: that's not how you educate people.

1064
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 3: That's not how you get people on your side.

1065
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel better because you yelled at everybody, but

1066
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: if anything, you made things worse because now you made

1067
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: your points so reductive that it's easy for people to

1068
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: be like. And that's why the fuck Israel is wrong

1069
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: as opposed to being like, And that's why the fuck

1070
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: we don't listen to Michael Rapaport essentially insinuating that any

1071
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: other minority wasn't good enough to succeed at the persecution.

1072
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 2: It's frustrating that they want to admit Palestine and Hamas

1073
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 2: are different. Harmas was pushed by Israel and elected in

1074
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: two thousand and six. That was their last free election

1075
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: in the Median age is eighteen. So people are being

1076
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: destroyed because the decisions that were made twenty years ago.

1077
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: There's so much nuance that it can't be summed up

1078
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 2: in a single three minute video or tweet. As always,

1079
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: thanks for your light talker points, love y'all, and then

1080
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: said correction, Israel slash how my slash Palestine issue? Yeah, yeah,

1081
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: I feel you, man, Honest to god, man, I can

1082
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 2: hear it when I listen to folks talk, and I don't.

1083
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: Maybe that's how deep and how far back the conflict goes.

1084
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: They either don't hear themselves.

1085
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: Or they truly truly believe.

1086
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 2: Like it's all the same. It doesn't matter if fifteen

1087
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: thousand people.

1088
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: Die or not.

1089
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 2: If you live there, you are basically harmas to them.

1090
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: And and I know I don't know everything.

1091
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: I've done as much listening as and reading in this

1092
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 2: last few months as about this than anything, but I'm

1093
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: always surprised by the stuff I don't know. You know,

1094
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: you listen to enough conversations, someone always brings up another thing,

1095
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: and like oh shit.

1096
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: That okay, So that seems like a big deal, But I.

1097
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: Refuse to budge on the idea that all these people

1098
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: had to die.

1099
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, same, I'm sorry, and I do. I mean,

1100
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 3: I was here nine to eleven. I get it. I

1101
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: know terrorism terrorizes.

1102
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: I'm not Jewish, and I don't know what it's like

1103
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: to live in Israel and feel under constant attack. I

1104
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: don't know what it's like to have survived, you know,

1105
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: people survivor the Holocaust. But I'm black in America, and

1106
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: our people survived the Holocaust of its own that disconnected

1107
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 2: us from our roots, and we're still stuck here living

1108
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: with our abuser, you know, in America.

1109
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 3: So I relate on that level.

1110
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: And I don't necessarily know that black people would be

1111
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: better if we had the power and support of like

1112
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: the first world nations and military and shit, I don't

1113
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: know that we'd be better.

1114
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 3: I really can't say that. I think we have enough.

1115
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well enough traumas happened to us that our racial

1116
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: paranoia would at least feel justified if we had the

1117
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: power to do something about it.

1118
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: We just don't have the power, agreed.

1119
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: But all that being said, man, I'm sorry, I can't.

1120
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: I can't justify what's happening, and I don't know how

1121
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: people do. And I'm not saying that out of something

1122
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: like I watched the bunch of videos of kids crying

1123
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 2: and shit. I just think even if you just read

1124
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: the words in the papers, like I don't think this

1125
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: is solving it, you know, and reading you know what

1126
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: the leadership of Israel is saying it, I mean, it

1127
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: does sound like they want to kill basically everybody. I

1128
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: don't know how we as a world are just sitting

1129
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: up here being like, oh, well, you know, but that

1130
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: is what is happening.

1131
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: You know, that is what is happening. That is the reality.

1132
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: And I'm sure if it wasn't happening in Israel and Palestine,

1133
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: it be happening.

1134
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 3: It probably is happening.

1135
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: Somewhere else over the globe, and we're either we don't

1136
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: know about it or don't care.

1137
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: And that's humanity. But I don't know.

1138
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a big thing, and I understand

1139
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: why people are upset by it.

1140
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 3: Me too.

1141
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: Christopher Reeve is a huge Mandela effects as Evie. I too,

1142
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: thought his name was Christopher Reeves. Well, I don't care,

1143
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: it's mama named Christopher Reeves. I'm a Collein Christopher Reeves. Well,

1144
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: that's a lie. I wish Jesse Smoll that go away.

1145
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: He could have finished his sentence by now, hired a

1146
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: PR firm and.

1147
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: Got back to work already.

1148
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: You know he was working somewhat during all this. I

1149
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: think he had a play that was done, did pretty well.

1150
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know if he's delusion or think

1151
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: someone everyone else is stupid?

1152
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: Who knows.

1153
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: False wing says related to pressuring actors to be publicly

1154
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: out in order.

1155
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: To play LGBTQ characters.

1156
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: I don't remember if you covered this because it happened

1157
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: months ago and my memory and shit, but this is

1158
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: what happened to Kick Connor.

1159
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: No, we didn't cover this. I don't remember his name.

1160
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: He was eighteen when he was casting a popular Netflix

1161
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: show to play a bisexual team. He didn't disclose the sexualities,

1162
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: so some people assumed he was straight and profiting off

1163
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: of a queer show. Apparently fans of the show or

1164
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 2: even harassing his friends and family to find out his sexuality.

1165
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: So he finally tweeted out something like I'm by congrats

1166
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: on forcing an eighteen year old to put.

1167
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: Themselves out to out themselves.

1168
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: So while yeah, well, I agree that more queer characters

1169
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 2: should mean that more queer actors are also being hired,

1170
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: including to play straight roles, there shouldn't be a you

1171
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: need to match the sexuality of the character to play

1172
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: this queer role qualified. I don't know if there's a

1173
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: way to measure the first part of that statement without

1174
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 2: the second part also coming into play via fan harassment campaigns.

1175
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: I just want an environment where people didn't force actors

1176
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: and writers and musicians, et cetera to out themselves or

1177
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: to have representation.

1178
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're and we're running up against it.

1179
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 2: I think Billy Allis just recently was miffed about being

1180
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: outed because there's a level of sexuality that is private.

1181
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: People feel ready when they're fucking ready, right, and it's

1182
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: and it really isn't your fucking business, and acting is

1183
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: it essentially at the end of the day, pretending It

1184
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: is still pretending. It is still the part of the

1185
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: skill is doing a thing that we're like, oh, you,

1186
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: you're pretending to be able to do this thing. It's

1187
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: the reason that like to play Batman, an actor doesn't

1188
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: have to actually like jump off of be able to

1189
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: jump off buildings and shit, we're like, no, that's obviously

1190
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: fake or whatever. So, yeah, there's something there where we

1191
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: just haven't quite found it. But I think the tools

1192
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: we're using, the online harassment, the constant trying to out people,

1193
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: the shaming of people, I don't think those things are working,

1194
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: and I think they're more of a function of how

1195
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: we want to engage with online.

1196
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 3: Social media stuff in a bad way.

1197
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: Like everything, the tools of social media basically are harassment,

1198
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: and so everything ends up either being justified harassment or

1199
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: unjustify harassment, but it all kind of transports harassment of people. Yeah.

1200
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 7: Also, I think that a lot of things on social

1201
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 7: media boils down to parasocial relationships, and that's something that

1202
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 7: people don't want to admit because what is it that

1203
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 7: important about celebrities that you don't know that that makes

1204
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 7: you want to force them to tell you about their sexuality?

1205
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 7: It's crazy. Yeah, parasocial relationship. You think you own them,

1206
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 7: You think you have the right to know. You think

1207
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 7: everything they say, everything they do, every act, they have,

1208
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 7: every decision that they make with their family, their finances,

1209
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 7: you have something to do with it. This is why

1210
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 7: people go, you let me down, bitch. You don't know them,

1211
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 7: How can you how can they let you down? You

1212
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 7: don't have an interpersonal type relationship with them, You do

1213
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 7: not know this person.

1214
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: But social media has.

1215
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 7: Given the people and people online and social media has

1216
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 7: given people the illusion of a tightness and the closeness

1217
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 7: that's not real.

1218
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it just all terms of harassment. It's

1219
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: like what happened last weekend with Beyonce, where there were

1220
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: Jewish people who danced to you Won't Break My Soul

1221
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: and people were like, she should not screen her movie

1222
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: in Israel.

1223
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 3: Forget all the implications.

1224
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: Of that, and no need to look into any of

1225
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: the agreements of paperwork behind right when that was decided

1226
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: anything months ago.

1227
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: Also also.

1228
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: It just ended up turning to a big online harassment

1229
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: hate campaign against Beyonce, and by the end there was

1230
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: this capitalist bitch sosietonist. And the point is that's what

1231
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: social media is. Just it just devolves into that. Every

1232
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: time it does not we have failed.

1233
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 3: It does not change. We have failed.

1234
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: Whatever social media was supposed to be the promise of

1235
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: conversations and community and shit, it hasn't happened.

1236
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 3: It's kind of just turned into the sailing witch trials.

1237
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: It's kind of just turned into burning people at the

1238
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: steak virtually obviously, and every weekend, every week, every day,

1239
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: it just need a new person to burn. It's not

1240
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: and the and in some ways it honestly makes the

1241
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: points not salient or last long because how many people

1242
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: have already forgotten about that that was a week ago.

1243
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: She was the worst person in the world a week ago.

1244
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: Today everybody's posting their favorite renaissance outfits. You didn't mean

1245
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: it a week ago, and you don't mean what you're

1246
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: doing today. This is what it is, all right. And

1247
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: then the poll was, oh, I'm sorry. Comments on YouTube,

1248
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: let me check that real quick. Christopher read episode one

1249
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: comment that I can't see so must have.

1250
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 3: Been deleted by YouTube. Who else.

1251
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: I've never been able to find them when I go

1252
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: look into comments. And if I did it, probably with

1253
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: some wag shit.

1254
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: So uh, or you said something he was like YouTube

1255
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: is ain't no, won't be saying that, yeah, or they

1256
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 3: deleted it. Possibly. I know I didn't keywords and ship

1257
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: today screened for yeah, yeah.

1258
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: And I do remember at some point we had a

1259
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: comment that I felt was like something and maybe and

1260
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: I replied to it, So maybe the person deleted it.

1261
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 7: I don't know, right, yeah, because they can delete themselves.

1262
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: I ain't think about that. Yeah, I don't.

1263
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it just it says one comment,

1264
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: but it ain't showing up.

1265
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if motherfucker hit the wrong word or

1266
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: some shit. Yeah, I'm looking. There's nothing hell for review, all.

1267
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 7: Right, because you can see it if it's kind of

1268
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 7: sitting yeah, right, and so we don't have access to it,

1269
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 7: so either they deleted or YouTube deleted.

1270
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 3: It, right. Oh, okay, that's okay. I think I'll see

1271
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: some publice ca.

1272
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: Okay, well, see on my comments, I kind of see it,

1273
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: so okay, let me see it regarding Jesse because which

1274
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 2: episode is Christopher Reeve?

1275
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?

1276
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, one comment is not showing up. Okay, Well, anyway,

1277
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: I can see it on my comment comments regarding Jesse,

1278
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: it says I live right outside Chicago and I believe him.

1279
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: I believed him at first when the line broke down.

1280
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like he needed to be charged to

1281
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: find would be enough. But the races head to Chicago,

1282
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: FOP and all the right wingers trying to bring down

1283
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 2: Kim Fox read with it. It was a waste of money,

1284
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: but at this point, damn just to take your punishment and.

1285
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 3: Put this behind you.

1286
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about it too, Like I feel

1287
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: like he pushed it to this and I don't have

1288
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: sympathy anymore. I do not like you could have stop

1289
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: lying at any point, and you know, I'm no good basis,

1290
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: and they're gonna be like they're like, no, I know

1291
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: good people that went down with the Jesse ship to

1292
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: the last, to the bitter end, and.

1293
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I.

1294
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: Feel like, uh, this thing that happens a lot of

1295
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: times with sympathetic black figures using macro issues for micro

1296
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: shit such as this Jonathan Majors, I'm a black man

1297
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: and white women trying to get me shit. I don't

1298
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: for the most part, I don't even jump on those

1299
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: like give me, let's go to trial, let's see what

1300
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: the evidence is, because agreed, how many fucking times do

1301
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: we have to go through this shit where you get

1302
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: to the trial or whatever and then you're like, you were.

1303
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: Sending fucking text messages that said.

1304
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: You did it? What the fuck? Why are you wasting

1305
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: the right time with this black man shit? Stop doing that.

1306
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: You're not immit, till Bro, You're not the gay Tupac.

1307
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: You did some wild shit and just kept pushing it.

1308
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: Too bad. It's not a conspiracy from the top of

1309
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: the government to get you right, all right?

1310
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 3: The poe did you know Christopher Reeve's name? Did it?

1311
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 3: The inn with an S? Damn?

1312
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: I just did it again, Yes, fifty four percent, forty

1313
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: six per cent No, So I guess most of y'all knew. Okay,

1314
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: congrats smarty y'ard niggas thirty percent, Yes, seventy percent know

1315
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: on Spotify. Those are my people. They they for real,

1316
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: for real. They not like the rest of y'all liars.

1317
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 7: Uh.

1318
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: The Q and A was they woke my daughter up

1319
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: at gunpoint. Again nothing new to the black and brown community.

1320
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: Felicity Huffman, Oh no. Jared Donald says, when I went

1321
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: to the doctor, the nurse saw my company name on

1322
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: my jacket and said the name of the S even

1323
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: though it clearly does not have an S at the end.

1324
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: And yes, he was black. Lol, I'm black too. Z

1325
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: Lord says there was another active place Superman, the television

1326
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: show back in the fifties. His name was George Reeves

1327
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: with a S. Raphael says, I know Christopher Reeve named. However,

1328
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: after crossing seven rivers and mountains in search of El Dorado,

1329
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: I began to say, Reeves, I blame all communities that

1330
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: haven't supported my hustle for this.

1331
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 3: Put. I think maybe a cash emoji. Alicia says, now,

1332
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: why are we in it? The Negros?

1333
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 7: Right, That's all I want to know.

1334
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: Top Flower says, everyone boo this nigga Tyler to kit.

1335
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: All right, let me play a little music right here

1336
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 2: so I know where to put a commercial break later

1337
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: on in the show, because you know, we gotta we

1338
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: still gotta get this bread. Everybody here we go, all right?

1339
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 8: Uh?

1340
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: Next episode is twenty eight fourteen Power of the Vote.

1341
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: We had four comments forty two, says drop the mic.

1342
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: Doctor Dostak says, y'all make very salient observations about social

1343
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: media voting and how folks act on line while remaining

1344
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: steadfastly in y'all's empathy, and I think that came through

1345
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: in this episode. Granted, I think it comes through in

1346
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: all y'all's episodes, which is wild. Fuck with y'at a

1347
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 2: long way, but especially in this one. I feel the

1348
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: same way about voting, finding a picture of my mom

1349
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: in college at doctor King's casket view and put things

1350
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: in a different perspective for me. I haven't really posted

1351
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: anything on social media about the Israel's destruction of Gaza,

1352
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: but have seen a whole lot that folks have been posted.

1353
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: I used to post a whole fucking lot, especially during

1354
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen Democratic primary in the Trump years, but

1355
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: I stopped after realizing that my anger and pain over

1356
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen election and overall fear for this country

1357
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: had me online during the emotional equivalent of trying to

1358
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 2: fill a barrel with water that has a vote hole

1359
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 2: at the bottom. Yes, I grew with y'all, and not

1360
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: engaging with folks saying online they're not voting, Especially in

1361
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: this context. Nobody is black Canary dang screaming a brick

1362
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: wild down rider character than is always for the sincere

1363
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 2: adn't show piece though, Thank you though.

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01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 7: But you have to come to that realization yourself. And

1365
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 7: that's the thing being on line. You've got to come

1366
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 7: to that realization on your own terms and in your

1367
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 7: own time. And nobody is above being caught up and

1368
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 7: swept in and everybody at some point in time if

1369
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 7: you spend any heavy amount of time on social media,

1370
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 7: will can and have been caught up in it, and

1371
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 7: you got to look around and be like, hey, what

1372
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 7: is my reality? What's really happening, What's really going on?

1373
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 7: Why am I putting energy and effort into something like

1374
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 7: this when I can be doing something more constructive with

1375
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 7: this time and this energy that I have. And a

1376
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 7: lot of times, to be told, most people just need therapy,

1377
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 7: and that's something that and they use Twitter as a

1378
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 7: form of therapy to quote unquote release those emotions to

1379
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 7: temporarily make themselves feel better. But in reality, these feelings

1380
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 7: do come back and they have to be addressed. So

1381
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 7: I've been on line long enough and I've seen enough people.

1382
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 7: When they start going to therapy, pulling enough line talking

1383
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 7: to people, you see their social media behaviors change when

1384
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 7: they come to the reality that their behavior is hurting

1385
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 7: themselves online and their interaction with people is hurting them.

1386
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 7: We're not talking about anybody else about you the person

1387
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 7: is posting. Once you come to that realization, you'll leave

1388
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 7: the matrix or you'll be like, well, I'm gonna be

1389
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 7: out here, but I'm gonna limit my amount of time.

1390
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna respond. You'll start putting up filters, You'll

1391
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 7: start placing borders around you. And the thing is, once

1392
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 7: you do this, a lot of times, these communities that

1393
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 7: you built, because a lot of times it's a community

1394
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 7: that you built. You get online, you see the same names,

1395
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 7: y'all interact with each other. It's a community, it's a

1396
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 7: shared camaraderie, camaraderie. Once that thing leaves, all of a sudden,

1397
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 7: you're you're no longer part of that community. And that's

1398
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 7: the fear that most people have. They want to continue

1399
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 7: to be a part of a community online. And once

1400
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 7: you say, hey, I hey, this is not healthy for me,

1401
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 7: This is not good for me, this is not good

1402
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 7: for my mental health. I'm sad, I'm angry, I'm depressed, y'all,

1403
01:08:58,320 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 7: like I think I need to lead this, they will

1404
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 7: do everything they can to get you to come back,

1405
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 7: and they would use techniques as like bullying. They would

1406
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 7: use techniques telling you you're not strong enough. They will

1407
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 7: make you feel like you're the problem and not the

1408
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 7: community itself. Because but there are.

1409
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 3: Good communities online.

1410
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 7: You just have to figure out what communities are good

1411
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 7: for you individually and what communities are not and when

1412
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 7: is it time to lead us an individual decision? And

1413
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 7: also the things that are the people that are caught

1414
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 7: up in these matrix that's caught up in these toxic communities,

1415
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 7: they don't know, you know. That's why sometimes when we

1416
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 7: are on the show we make comments. It's dropped over time.

1417
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,520
Speaker 7: But we used to have people that would just consistently

1418
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 7: combat us with them And I was say, oh, you're

1419
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 7: combating us because you're a part of it and you

1420
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 7: don't understand that. You don't know, and you don't want

1421
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 7: to get out and you don't understand or your eyes

1422
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 7: have not been woken to the things that are around you.

1423
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 7: Because if you realize every day you banking on baking,

1424
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 7: every day, you mad, every day you sad, or whatever

1425
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 7: it may be to keep you online, you realize that

1426
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 7: the people you're around you have the same energy.

1427
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 3: Consistently all of the time.

1428
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 7: There's some wrong, but you have to come to that

1429
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 7: conclusion on your owner court and with yourself. And I did,

1430
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 7: like I said, and my thing is I'm still online.

1431
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 7: You don't have to run away from a line, but

1432
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 7: you have to find a balance. You have to find

1433
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 7: a balance. It's best for you.

1434
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 3: Evie says, I will never give up on voting.

1435
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: I had to unfollow so many people who have been

1436
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: dying they're not going to vote over one oh saying

1437
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 2: they're not gonna vote over one issue reasons. One person

1438
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 2: talked about not voting because they had integrity. Fuck your integrity.

1439
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: That person will be the loudest person complaining if Donald

1440
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: Trump gets back in the office and all of our

1441
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: rights are stripped away. Yeah, it's interesting to think that,

1442
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: like literally women lost the right to abortion a year ago,

1443
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 2: like the fact that people think shit ain't gonna keep

1444
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 2: rolling downhill.

1445
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 3: It's wild to me because we have not.

1446
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: Overcome the conservative majority in the Supreme Court, and the

1447
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 2: next president will probably be a president that at least

1448
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 2: replaces two or three of those justices.

1449
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: And here we are again, guys.

1450
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: I hope that by the time the election rolls around

1451
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: next year, people have clear because right now a lot

1452
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: of people are in pain over loved ones being killed,

1453
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 2: and like you said, there's no point yelling at them

1454
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: if anything that makes people want to dig their hells

1455
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: in right.

1456
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: I don't know why people are, I know why, but

1457
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: it ain't working.

1458
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: If the goal is to get people to see your

1459
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 2: point of view and go to your side. Then why

1460
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: do you think yelling at them is helping? It's you know,

1461
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 2: and I guess it's you know, it's a generational trauma thing,

1462
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 2: and it's just so much bigger than just this one

1463
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: moment for so many people. But I mean, it's not

1464
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: my Yeah, it's just what I'm looking at is what's working,

1465
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:36,799
Speaker 2: and I don't see this working.

1466
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, you bought up something. Why you're talking about something?

1467
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 7: And I am completely guilty of this. And I've learned

1468
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 7: how to balance and check check myself when it comes

1469
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 7: to this. Another main reason why I don't respond to

1470
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 7: those people. Everybody can's finding out out of fear. They're scared,

1471
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 7: and I'm scared, and everybody's coming from a place of

1472
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 7: fear and scared of the results, and that.

1473
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna change their mind.

1474
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 7: They're not gonna change my mind because in my mind,

1475
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 7: in the way I view things, I have to do something.

1476
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 7: I can't speak for anybody else. There's something within me

1477
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 7: in my soul until the day I die, I have

1478
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 7: to do something. I cannot sit back, do nothing, watch

1479
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 7: everything burn and be like, well, damn, I how to

1480
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 7: file holes?

1481
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 3: I could have did something. I can't do that.

1482
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 7: Some people can, that's your choice, but I can't do that.

1483
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 7: So I'm not gonna allow my fear of you not

1484
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 7: doing anything to cost me to fuss at you. Okay,

1485
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 7: you don't want to do anything, Fuck it, let me

1486
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 7: go find people that are willing to do something with me.

1487
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 7: Un Let's do something, and let's put this bitch out, he.

1488
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 3: Goes on to say.

1489
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: She goes on to say, but I do think there

1490
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: are a segment of people who are taking advantage of

1491
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: what's happening in the world to push that platforms on

1492
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: social media by saying they want to vote. I see

1493
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: right through those opportunities. Yeah, and those people are always there,

1494
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: and they're always gonna do this, and there's gonna be

1495
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: something new next week, and they're gonna do it again.

1496
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: Some of these motherfuckers been telling us they're not gonna

1497
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: vote for literally over a decade at this point. At

1498
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: this point, if you if you're not gonna vote a

1499
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,839
Speaker 2: Democrat or voting in the election for over a decade,

1500
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 2: you're just a person that doesn't vote. I don't know

1501
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 2: why it matters, you know, I think twenty's twenty should

1502
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: have been a big referendum on those people, because those

1503
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 2: people never changed. They were still saying they weren't voting

1504
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, so Joe Biden won without them, so

1505
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: and then, and of course as soon as he won,

1506
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, those motherfuckers tried to take credit. No,

1507
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: you told us you don't vote, you weren't gonna vote.

1508
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: You said he's gonna lose the youth vote.

1509
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 3: That lie.

1510
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: You lied though you are saying things and you don't

1511
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 2: have any proof of evidence. People are arguing with you,

1512
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: because that's what social media is for.

1513
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 3: Just let it go.

1514
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: I don't okay, you're not gonna vote, then if there's

1515
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: enough people like that will get Trump or whatever, and

1516
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 2: y'all will blame the Democrats and I'll blame you and

1517
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: we'll just keep the cycle going. But I don't really

1518
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: give a fuck at this point. I'm gonna do what

1519
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: I'll do. I'm gonna be as responsible with my platform

1520
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: and our podcast as I can be. And that's all

1521
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: the fuck I got for you. You know, Like, if

1522
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm not yelling at you or arguing with you, or

1523
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: helping you get your catharcists by like yelling at me,

1524
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: and calling me names. Feel how you feel, Blame me

1525
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: if you want to, but I'm trying what I'm doing.

1526
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm as convicted as you, and I am doing what

1527
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: I think is the best option.

1528
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 3: That's it.

1529
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 2: I don't have anything deeper for you, and you know

1530
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: all the right reasons and that I believe in, and

1531
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 2: I know all the reasons you believe in, and they're

1532
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: not moving either of us, So why would we need

1533
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: to keep fighting?

1534
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 3: I agreed.

1535
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: Samla Agne says, I don't have much to add to

1536
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 2: the excellent points to what you made on this as

1537
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: ironclad at this point, I say I stayed out of

1538
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: much of the Israel Palastown social media discussions online because

1539
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: it's online and I'm not going to get anywhere with

1540
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: people having a shouting match about whether people are going

1541
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: to vote or not because Joe Biden and isn't doing

1542
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: a ceasefire, but he did a pause.

1543
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 3: I've been on my block game for wild takes, but

1544
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 3: I've also just don't talk about it. Not worth it.

1545
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 2: I'm sick of anger and performativeness. Beating the shit out

1546
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: of us is exhausting. I'm exhausted. The people in both

1547
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: countries are most definitely exhausted by their longtime wars.

1548
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 3: It's all sad, but I don't have to join in.

1549
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: And shit is mad complicated, not as easy as just

1550
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 2: slapping some slogan area to the proceedings.

1551
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 3: It's a lot. Yeah.

1552
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 2: Like I said, man, listen to people that know way

1553
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: more than we do, way to have more history and

1554
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: knowledge about this specific conflict, that are talking to experts.

1555
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: I've ezra klined the gray area on the media. These

1556
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: are the podcasts I'm listening to because honestly, I don't

1557
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 2: even just want like a personal perspective of like this

1558
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: is how I feel as a person that is Palestinian

1559
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: or Jewish. I hear that, but that I need to

1560
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: talk to people that are like, here's what happened at

1561
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixty five piece of course I need that

1562
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: because I don't I didn't learn that in school and

1563
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, and even as I learned, I don't

1564
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: know that it's solving shit because everything I'm hearing, I'm like, oh, man,

1565
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: that nope, both sides are not going to agree on that,

1566
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 2: and I don't know what you do at that point.

1567
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: And it's not as simple as the American allegories we're

1568
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: using over here to be like this is all it is,

1569
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 2: but then it's not really that because it's a different

1570
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: history than America, so it's not the same. So anyway,

1571
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 2: as for Juliana Margalise Man, she gets so she's sure

1572
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: ow on gold herself.

1573
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: Huh.

1574
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: I listened to that interview, and while I have softing

1575
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: a bit on how I felt initially using black people

1576
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,520
Speaker 2: for example, yeah, I'm tired, take it easy, y'all. Yeah,

1577
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not normally a rush to anger person

1578
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 2: in the first place, so I don't know that I

1579
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: would have ever had the like same responses most people

1580
01:16:59,080 --> 01:16:59,879
Speaker 2: to that interview.

1581
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 3: But it wasn't good. I listened to the whole thing.

1582
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, that's it. I soughted out.

1583
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: To listen to the whole thing on purpose because the

1584
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 2: clips I saw on Twitter and stuff, I was sure,

1585
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 2: obviously are the ones that make her look the worse.

1586
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 2: That's what the fuck Twitter's for. But even in context,

1587
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 2: I think she she came off terrible, and I mean

1588
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 2: it says a lot that you know, she's not gonna

1589
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 2: suffer any consequences for it. But if someone would have

1590
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: went on some podcasts and said some shit about Palestine. Uh,

1591
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 2: you know, the other way, they would have lost some things.

1592
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 2: That's that's the current structure we have right now. So

1593
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: she'll be fine, you know, like she's not losing anything.

1594
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: But I think what she said was very fucked up,

1595
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: and you know that. I don't think anything's gonna happen

1596
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: to her. I'm not even saying I want something to happen.

1597
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: I just think if you're paying attentions obvious, who who's

1598
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 2: suffering consequences from speaking out?

1599
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: Who's not right?

1600
01:17:59,160 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: You know?

1601
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 2: Anyway, the comments on YouTube for this episode Power of

1602
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: the Vote, we had a heart emoji from our girl.

1603
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 3: The home I create Warry Warrior Sport. I hope I said.

1604
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: That right, says we all know how important voting is

1605
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: and engaging in political process, but many Americans are participating

1606
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: in this democracy only around election season. Let's not forget

1607
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: our elected representatives set fourth whiles and policies, domestic and

1608
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: foreign policies that run the country. Some of these policies

1609
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: are good and benevolent in summ or not. At every

1610
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 2: election cycle, people are asked to vote and promise change

1611
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: and progress, but most of the status quo remains When

1612
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 2: people see what's happening in Gaysa and they see the

1613
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 2: responses from their favorite politicians, they get upset. Upset their

1614
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: favorite politicians and many people in the political party are

1615
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: supporting of something terrible, horrible. So people are marching in

1616
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: huge numbers the man of politician, the politicians that they

1617
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: voted for the call for seas far. So far, there

1618
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: are not enough politicians that's for seas far. So they

1619
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: wonder why are things like this? Why is it my

1620
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: party against the killing and destruction of civilians? Why is

1621
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: my political party and my country our supportive of the

1622
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 2: apartheid state, and why would I continue to.

1623
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 3: Be part of of that political party.

1624
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people are realizing members of their favorite

1625
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: political party, the leaders of their country, as well as

1626
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: the laws and policies they create, is not entirely intended

1627
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: for voters like them.

1628
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 3: It's a powerful.

1629
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: Interest groups and that's upsetting many voters.

1630
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 3: And I.

1631
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: Replied to this one, I said, I feel like we

1632
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: addressed this on the show, but even thoughing all this

1633
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: and understanding how those people feel, we still think voting

1634
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: is a better option than not voting.

1635
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 3: The other thing, I would notice.

1636
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 2: In the language you use favorite party right size, using

1637
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: no fuck picking size.

1638
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 3: I'm picking side.

1639
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 2: I mean Democrats is my side, But will you say

1640
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 2: favorite party? The thing I noticed about that his favorite

1641
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: implies like this level of emotional connection, like you're rooting

1642
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 2: for a sports team or a celebrity. As I've said

1643
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 2: many times on the show, we treat our politicians like celebrities,

1644
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: our celebrities like politicians. We need Beyonce or Taylor Swift

1645
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 2: to tweet something that we can't get a politician to do, right,

1646
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,440
Speaker 2: That's how we treat things. And we need our politicians

1647
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 2: to be on Twitter sloganeering in a way that is

1648
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: so black and white that it really does undercut the

1649
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: true complexity.

1650
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 3: Of the job they're doing. Right.

1651
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: But my point being like this was something we addressed

1652
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 2: people of a certain generation. Obama's not just your president,

1653
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: he's your favorite politician. He's a celebrity in his own right.

1654
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: I didn't grow up with that, So even with Obama,

1655
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: I don't feel that level of attachment as far as

1656
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 2: like I needed him to be president and my favorite guy.

1657
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: It never was on the table for me because I

1658
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: grew up in a time when it was Reagan and

1659
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: Clinton and Bush and you know, and the people that

1660
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: lost to them Al Gore and do cockings and shit,

1661
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: those were not celebrity fun guys.

1662
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1663
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 2: There were people I was like vetting to do a job,

1664
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 2: a job that I knew was for this country, which

1665
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:29,879
Speaker 2: meant it would never.

1666
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 3: Be a good job.

1667
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 2: They could never do the perfect job because this country

1668
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: is terrible.

1669
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 7: I think for me, like I said, we kind of

1670
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 7: addressed this, But my thing is, why not both Why

1671
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 7: can't you go out there marsh and demand and keep

1672
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 7: marching and keep demanding and also vote for the change.

1673
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 7: You know, It's one of these things where people act

1674
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 7: like it has to be one or the other. And

1675
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 7: that's where I pushed back against this one hundred percent. Yes,

1676
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 7: keep fighting, Yes, keep demanding more. Yes, be mad, be upset.

1677
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 7: The anger is the feelings are valid when people and

1678
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 7: people think when people say.

1679
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 3: This dac like that, that we're just dismissing it.

1680
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, I'm not, because I think is

1681
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 7: particularly be in black in this country.

1682
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 3: This is shit we had to do with all the time.

1683
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 7: We had to keep watching, keep fighting, keep protesting, keep

1684
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 7: keep keep passing things and and and and talking to

1685
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 7: lawmakers that basically looked us in us our face and

1686
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 7: was saying, no, bitch, we ain't gonna do shit.

1687
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 3: You know we did.

1688
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 7: We kept on doing it and kept voting and kept

1689
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 7: demanding and kept the things going. It's like, you did

1690
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 7: not do what I want you to do, you to

1691
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 7: do right when I said you should do it right here,

1692
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 7: right now. So fuck it, fuck the whole system. Why

1693
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 7: should I participate? And that is the problem to me.

1694
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 7: We will never agree on that, but that is the

1695
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 7: problem to me. You can do both, It does not

1696
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 7: have to be one or the other.

1697
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

1698
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: This person also replied, of course, voting is still a

1699
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: better better than sitting out, but every election should not

1700
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: result and continuing the status quo, these politicians must deliver

1701
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 2: on change progress they promise, so.

1702
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 3: Civilly, those are the left.

1703
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: I hate these type of platitude talking points because one

1704
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: you're not saying shit what policies. Two that no politician

1705
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: ran on Israel palaestin zero weren't asked about it in

1706
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: any single debate ever, So this whole like they need

1707
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 2: to deliver on the promise. What promise did they have?

1708
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 2: So that's not even true. Two status quo underrated as fuck.

1709
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 2: Status quo is also like stability and shit right, like

1710
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,879
Speaker 2: shaking shit up is you know how we got.

1711
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,879
Speaker 3: Trump people being like I just want something different.

1712
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: You should appreciate the fuck out of status quo at

1713
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: this point. And then incremental change is still changed, so

1714
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: like you know, and then also this harmful reduction is

1715
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 2: like the Charlemagne the goding of this conversation of like, uh,

1716
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: they just need to make sure we get the progress

1717
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 2: they promised, like they're doing it and they're trying, and.

1718
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 3: It also erases all progress that is done.

1719
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm not trying trying to turn this show into this,

1720
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: but we can make a whole fucking episode on this

1721
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 2: if we want to, and probably be an hour and

1722
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: a half to two hours just going through the buying

1723
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 2: administration accomplishments itself. Right, we could do that, but it

1724
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: won't matter because it's gonna always be the one thing

1725
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: they didn't get to or the two things they did,

1726
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: the thing you wanted that didn't happen, And it won't

1727
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: matter the reasons it didn't happen. It won't matter about

1728
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 2: Republican opposition. It won't matter if it's another fucking country

1729
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: that don't want to listen to us. None of that's

1730
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: gonna matter to you because you're searching for a feeling.

1731
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: You're caring about your favorite I don't care about that.

1732
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1733
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't care about the favorite thing. I'm

1734
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: not gonna yell at you and turn this into that

1735
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 2: you said what you said. I don't think I could

1736
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 2: convince you the whatever. But let me just tell you

1737
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 2: when you told me, I was right when you said,

1738
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 2: of course, voting is the better option in the discussion.

1739
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 3: That's all I've been saying. I don't need to or want.

1740
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 2: To care about the feelings involved in this because it's

1741
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 2: not a feelings thing for me. So like the feelings

1742
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 2: thing is something you need. I hope you find a

1743
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: motivation wherever you need to find it, if you need

1744
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 2: to feel inspired by I hope they give it to you.

1745
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: I hope, But I'm not in control of that.

1746
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm not. The reasons I.

1747
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: Feel inspired to vote actually have very little to do

1748
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 2: with the politicians, right, So it's just we just look

1749
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: at shit different, that's it. The poets, do you vote

1750
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: in your country's election? On our website?

1751
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 3: One hundred percent of people on spotify ninety.

1752
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: Six percent of people, so vast majority of people though, listen,

1753
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: I show vote, so once again preaching to the choir.

1754
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not yelling. You know, I know people

1755
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: want some fire and brimstone. You know they acquire needs

1756
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 2: some preaching too. I get it, But on this one,

1757
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 2: I'm just trying not to turn this into like us

1758
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 2: yelling and fussing, because I don't think it's gonna help.

1759
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 7: I really don't, right, And you said a lot of

1760
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 7: times when people write these things, their minds have You've

1761
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 7: hear what we had to say, and so you're coming

1762
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 7: with account point, which is fine, but your mind has

1763
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 7: already made up.

1764
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 2: But also just it's not even a counterpoint. They didn't

1765
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 2: that comment didn't bring up anything we didn't address. I

1766
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 2: almost didn't read it because there's a waste of time

1767
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 2: because I was like, but you know what we said

1768
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: about this, but you people need to be heard. They

1769
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: feelings need to be felt. This is this person's way

1770
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 2: of being like, but my feelings, what about the feelings

1771
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: of these people? And feelings are important, but they're just

1772
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: not facts. Those and I considered their feelings. It doesn't

1773
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 2: change what we say on this show when it comes

1774
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: to voting, and that's fine. Other shows will go Yes,

1775
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 2: your feelings are the most important thing. Fuck the world,

1776
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: Fuck everybody. If you don't feel great about your vote,

1777
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: don't vote and stay home and don't feel great or

1778
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: do feel great about that choice.

1779
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 3: That's just what we're just we're I'm sure some of

1780
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 3: my fucking friends.

1781
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 2: Would feel that way. It's just it is what it is.

1782
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm not fighting them. It's like self immolation, right when people,

1783
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 2: some people publicly burn themselves to death as a protest.

1784
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: Ain't shit I can do to change. They've done powar

1785
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 2: to gasolina themselves and lit the match.

1786
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: All I got.

1787
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: The only thing they have for me is how do

1788
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 2: you feel about me burning myself on fire? And if

1789
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 2: I start yelling at them and saying, you don't need

1790
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 2: to do.

1791
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 3: This, I love you.

1792
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: Why are you burning yourself? Everyone's gonna burn it. Ain't

1793
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: they thought about that. They don't care the same way

1794
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 2: I thought about them burning themselves, And I don't care.

1795
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 3: It just is what it is, and we need to

1796
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 3: just accept that. At this point, the Q and A

1797
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 3: is and that's that.

1798
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 2: On that Qui says, or Key says, no shit, no

1799
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 2: shade but people sitting out mid terms of local elections

1800
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: is why we never get as much as many progressive

1801
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 2: electors as we could.

1802
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,440
Speaker 3: To quote Karen, that shit matterses.

1803
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 7: You do have a most of the popular, that's a

1804
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 7: large percentage of the populace only votes for president. They

1805
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 7: don't vote for the senators, the governors, the mayors, that

1806
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 7: motherfucking dog catcher, the controller. They don't vote for these

1807
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 7: people who actually matter. They don't vote for these people

1808
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 7: who put these judges in office.

1809
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 3: You know, when when when when when? When?

1810
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 7: When some Republicans does some fucked up shit and then

1811
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 7: then it goes up your your local, your states judges system,

1812
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 7: and you have this person that decides that, you know.

1813
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 3: Uh uh, fuck this them people.

1814
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 7: A lot of times them people aren't voted in some states,

1815
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 7: depend on the judging position that voted in, But some states,

1816
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 7: somebody who was voted picks these judges and puts them

1817
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 7: in these places. That's the shit that matters. Yes, President

1818
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 7: matters a lot, but what matters is what happens in

1819
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 7: your local minisipacties. These are the people that determine your fines,

1820
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,480
Speaker 7: your fees, your property taxes, how much you're paying schools.

1821
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 7: You know who you're rezoning the shit that when you

1822
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 7: wake up every day and say good morning, that shit

1823
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 7: impacts you every fucking day a lot quicker than the

1824
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 7: president ever will.

1825
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they don't care, they don't care.

1826
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 2: There's really not shit you can do about that, you know,

1827
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 2: so uh, just gotta leave it at that. But yeah,

1828
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: I think they are part of the problem. I don't

1829
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,799
Speaker 2: think they're solving shit. And you know, my most cynical

1830
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: take is that they're just being lazy and nihilistic, and

1831
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 2: then they're trying to pretend that it's some type of activism.

1832
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: I being like, I didn't vote. Well, not voting is

1833
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 2: the easiest thing to do. You didn't do shit. You

1834
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 2: literally didn't do shit. You tweet it and he stay home.

1835
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that I don't see the bravery in his stance,

1836
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: And I feel like you wanting to tell me it's

1837
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 2: just you wanting to fight because you could not vote

1838
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: and stay home and.

1839
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 3: Not tell me. No one would know.

1840
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,919
Speaker 2: It's your personal decision that makes you feel good somehow.

1841
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 2: You're telling me because you do want me to go,

1842
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: But why would you not vote so we can have

1843
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: a fight?

1844
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 3: And I'm not giving into that. Nope, congrats. Yeah, I'm

1845
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 3: not giving into it at all.

1846
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 2: And I don't find this to be like a real

1847
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 2: oppositional stands or something. And they, like I said, because

1848
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 2: when me and Karen post are we just voted photos, we.

1849
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 3: Don't ever get no detractors and haters.

1850
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 2: In the comments and shit because people know that there's

1851
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with what we're doing right like it is

1852
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 2: what it is.

1853
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 3: Man, I'm not fighting you.

1854
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 2: Jay says, if you didn't think voting matters, just look

1855
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,879
Speaker 2: at Caddo Paris Sheriff's election in Louisiana, where black Democrat

1856
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 2: candidate won over a white Republican candidate by one vote.

1857
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 3: One vote. Yeah, and I think they're trying to recall that. Yep.

1858
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: I think Republicans are trying to recall that election or

1859
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 2: at least recounted or something.

1860
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 3: Lee says, rock the vote, y'all black power emoji.

1861
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 2: We will continue to you know, everybody do what they

1862
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 2: want to do, and we'll see what happens.

1863
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 3: Episode twenty eight to fifteen.

1864
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 2: Standing on Business, Jay full says, can sit this my

1865
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: brief Republican moment, but take off them goddamn ski mask.

1866
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to be walking around and a nigga

1867
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 2: roll up on me in a shisty, and I gotta

1868
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 2: be like, am I about to get ribbers?

1869
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 3: This is just a young nigga trying to look cool.

1870
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 2: If it ain't cold and you ain't skinned, take that

1871
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 2: shit off. Like what if you're maintenance man roll up

1872
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 2: to your crib while one of y'all isn't at home

1873
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: for repair and a shisty, But you gotta be so

1874
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 2: liberal that you're not allowed to get scared or wanting to.

1875
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 3: Take it out before coming to your house. Fuck that.

1876
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's an extreme situation in the end,

1877
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: but I hear what you're saying.

1878
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I listen.

1879
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 2: I have a brief Republican moment about this rap lyric

1880
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 2: shit in the trials where they be like, don't use

1881
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 2: these rap lyrics in the trials, and I'll be like,

1882
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 2: but the niggas is rapping about the crimes they did.

1883
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1884
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 2: Seem like a seem like finding a diary to me,

1885
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 2: But it's a diary. There was a number one hit.

1886
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I do understand why you

1887
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 2: can't use it in white shit and use it and

1888
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 2: I'm not on the side of using it. But it's

1889
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 2: still I have my brief Republican misgivings agreed, So I

1890
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 2: feel you.

1891
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 3: On the ski mass thing. And it's like I said,

1892
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 3: it's easy.

1893
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 2: I think also, just shit is easy to say on Twitter,

1894
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 2: but it's hard to live in a reality where that

1895
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 2: amount of trust is required. Right, Well, you need to

1896
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 2: look at another black person in a fucking scheme mask

1897
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 2: and go, I trust that black person. They are not

1898
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 2: gonna harm me or do anything shady, and there's no

1899
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,759
Speaker 2: reason for them. There's no bad reason their disguising their identity,

1900
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 2: you know. And Nigga, that's great in theory.

1901
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 7: And yes, it is executed a whole nothing, mother fucking thing.

1902
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 7: It's hard, and that's as long as it's gonna be,

1903
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 7: like why is your face covered? As long as we

1904
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 7: in our conversations don't admit to the difficulty of that,

1905
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 7: we're gonna always end up in these weird black and white.

1906
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 3: Spaces of Uh. So, y'all, y'all want to call these

1907
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 3: kids super predatent, I'm like, no.

1908
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:49,520
Speaker 2: But if if motherfuckers is wearing like the mask associated

1909
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 2: with robberies, people might feel a bit conflicted. Yes, yes,

1910
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 2: they might and it really won't matter what like you

1911
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 2: can try to turn into a race thing. But guess

1912
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 2: who the people are that don't want these motherfuckers wearing

1913
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 2: masks the black people to live in the neighborhoods with them.

1914
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 2: So you're not talking about white people coming in and

1915
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: doing this to us. It's us being like, we don't

1916
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 2: like this shit.

1917
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 3: Where the fuck out of laws?

1918
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 2: And so right, yeah, it's scary, man, scary, Andrews says, Hey,

1919
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,679
Speaker 2: Rod and Karen the scream I scrunk when you said

1920
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 2: TJ and Amy x spouses are nowadating what in the

1921
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 2: Mailrose place? All right, It's like the show Andrew Shoe

1922
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 2: was in became his real life. Damn, this was the

1923
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 2: white people news I didn't know I needed. It is

1924
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 2: much better than the Jonathan Major's news. The nerve of

1925
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: that man telling his ex she needed to act like

1926
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama.

1927
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 3: Or Coretta scott King or Coreda Scottish King.

1928
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 2: As I say, Coretta Scotland King, he reminds me of

1929
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 2: some hotels I knew back in college.

1930
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:51,719
Speaker 3: But I digress.

1931
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm not ashamed to say I need more Andrew and

1932
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 2: Mary Lee. In addition to the podcast, y'all suggest it.

1933
01:33:57,960 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 2: I need them to have a travel in food show

1934
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,839
Speaker 2: on TLC. I love mad Sashtag, I love mess seriously.

1935
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,560
Speaker 2: Best of luck to them, and twenty twenty three is

1936
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 2: definitely on one going out with a bang.

1937
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,600
Speaker 3: Thanks for the great show as always XO Angela.

1938
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 2: And says Cravis is correct, Rocket's part of Black American

1939
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,839
Speaker 2: culture or retrospective on it would be amazing.

1940
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 3: I agree, Apia says, poor big Farmer.

1941
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 2: She farmer is out here booking diverse actors and paying

1942
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 2: them good money, and also promoting progressive social values and

1943
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 2: paying old Opio decent money. And does anyone say, wow,

1944
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 2: big Farmer, you look somehow less evil this year. How

1945
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 2: did you do it? Did you start meditating or something? No,

1946
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 2: of course not. Now the products aren't sexy enough. Sorry

1947
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 2: that the products of my industry aren't as sexy as

1948
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 2: candy or something.

1949
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 3: They'll never be.

1950
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,839
Speaker 2: Well, we never really brought up the amount of unsexy

1951
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 2: your products are. I don't care about that part. I'm saying,

1952
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 2: why can't, uh, why can't when I see a diverse commercial,

1953
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 2: why can't these other industry step it up so that

1954
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't know it's automatically a Big Farmer commercial.

1955
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 3: Why can't it be tied? Yeah?

1956
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 7: Or were selling you an iron boarder Amazon?

1957
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 3: Like?

1958
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 7: Like literally anytime you see that it is some form

1959
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 7: of HIV Forvada something like.

1960
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 2: This isn't just this isn't about y'all, Big Farmer. Okay,

1961
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 2: I know, I know you're a huge ego maniac. You

1962
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 2: think everything gotta be about you. But I'm sorry, Big Farmer,

1963
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 2: this one time, it ain't about you. There's me your commercials.

1964
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: If you understand what I'm trying to say, it is

1965
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 2: me saying why can't other people be like Big Farmer?

1966
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 2: That's all we're using y'all as the standard, and you

1967
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 2: took it as an insult. Says a lot about the

1968
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 2: narcissism going on the Big Farmer. Okay, I'm not saying

1969
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan was right. Okay, I'm just saying that you're

1970
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 2: just saying, maybe, maybe maybe the quarterback for the Jets

1971
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 2: made some points, just saying. Chrissy says. The home goods

1972
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 2: that I so that I go to is always busy.

1973
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: Two weeks before Black Friday, I went to Browns. Didn't

1974
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 2: find exactly what I was looking for, but wanted to

1975
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 2: buy one candle. The line was very long, and this

1976
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 2: is in the middle of afternoon on a Wednesday. I

1977
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 2: just ended up putting the candle back because I didn't

1978
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 2: feel like standing in line for one candle. Went back

1979
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 2: to next week around eleven on my lunch break, and

1980
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 2: it was busier than last week, which I think people

1981
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 2: were starting their Christmas shopping early.

1982
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 3: Those DW candles are so good.

1983
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 2: I found a butter peacan one when I went the

1984
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 2: Home Goods the last time, which was the only one

1985
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 2: in the store. I went on the DW website. They

1986
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,759
Speaker 2: were sold out, of course, hope they get more stock.

1987
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 2: That was such a nice smelling candle. Wow, they don't

1988
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 2: miss Evie E says, I think one of the biggest

1989
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 2: white versions of standing on businesses.

1990
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 3: I want to speak to your manager.

1991
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 2: Boozy has some nerve sending out a warning about dating

1992
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 2: his daughter. Is this the same guy who bought a

1993
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 2: prostitute for his thirteen year old son.

1994
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 3: He's so gross. I agree. I don't think he's a

1995
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 3: good father. There, I said it.

1996
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 2: I said it, everybody, Okay, this is the podcast is

1997
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 2: not afraid to say Bluozy might not be a good day.

1998
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 3: I hate to get that controversial, but I had to

1999
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 3: do it. Gotcha, Prissy. No comments on YouTube for this episode.

2000
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,719
Speaker 2: So let's go to the Q and A and the polls,

2001
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 2: and then we'll check the voicemails. I think Jay full

2002
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 2: said he left one, so he probably definitely got at

2003
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 2: least one.

2004
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 3: All right. The poll was do you have trackers on

2005
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 3: your children?

2006
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 2: Because I talked to that cash on she talked to

2007
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 2: me really the cashier Homegirls, and she told me she

2008
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 2: got a tracker on her kid, and her sister got

2009
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 2: three trackers on her kid, so she yes. Ten percent

2010
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,520
Speaker 2: of our audience got trackers on their kids on the website,

2011
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 2: fourteen percent on Spotify, which makes sense because they got

2012
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: more money to buy trackers. Uh, thirty four percent do not,

2013
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:55,679
Speaker 2: twenty eight percent do not on Spotify, and fifty six

2014
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 2: percent don't have kids on our website.

2015
01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 3: Fifty eight percent don't have kids.

2016
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 2: So if you really break that down, like take away

2017
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 2: the fact that the vast majority of you don't have kids, right,

2018
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 2: just go to the people who have kids. So you

2019
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 2: have thirteen percent and twenty eight percent, so it seems

2020
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 2: like about a thirty you are tracking your kids. And

2021
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 2: I'm not even judging, y'all. I'm just saying, Damn, it's

2022
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 2: gotta be hard to get away with shit as a kid.

2023
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 2: Now it is, man Like I thought it was hard

2024
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. Well, these motherfuckers can't do nothing.

2025
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 2: No wonder they not having sex.

2026
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 3: They can't.

2027
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 7: Like it's a lot different. When I was in the office,

2028
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 7: one of my coworking her kids was in like elementary school,

2029
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 7: and she literally could track when they got on the bus,

2030
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 7: when they got at school. And because they had iPhones

2031
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 7: and they had the family plan, so she literally could

2032
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 7: track and see where they were at all day, she

2033
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 7: could track them when they.

2034
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 3: Were on their way home. And ya think, now everybody

2035
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 3: got rings, everybody got you know.

2036
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 7: Shit to record. So for your child hits the door,

2037
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 7: you can see them coming in. You can literally see

2038
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 7: who's coming in with them. You know, they get in

2039
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 7: the house. And people have cameras and things in their

2040
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 7: in their homes and things like that, and kids gonna

2041
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 7: be kids and take knowledge and shit like that. They

2042
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 7: would still find a way to sneak and do shit.

2043
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but these motherfuckers have to be like these motherfuckers

2044
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 2: have to be like mission impossible to get away with

2045
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 2: shit now like this shit is crat. They're gonna have

2046
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 2: to be know of the blind spots in the house

2047
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 2: and be suspending from the ceiling and put they track.

2048
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 3: They phone tied to a.

2049
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 2: Dog sitting around the neighborhood like these motherfucker's gonna have

2050
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 2: to be clever as hell.

2051
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 3: These are gonna be some little shady kids.

2052
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 2: No wonder they don't want to be on Instagram and

2053
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 2: ship with y'all, like y'all motherfuckers.

2054
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 3: Is jail y'all the wardens? Yeah, why I want to

2055
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 3: be on here with my mama.

2056
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 2: Put on your ankle brace if you're going out. I

2057
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 2: need to know where you at at all times. Y'all

2058
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 2: just calling y'a kid? Why is your heart rate going up?

2059
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 2: I'm on your Apple watch. You better not be having

2060
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 2: sex or smoking weed?

2061
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

2062
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 2: The Q and A was, why can't you be like

2063
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 2: scoreta correct us got King of Michelle Obama?

2064
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 3: I'm a great man, who know.

2065
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 2: James says Cu to Clarence Williams the third and e

2066
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 2: plumb movie scene from I'm Gonna Get You, Sucker. Yeah,

2067
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite scenes and one of my

2068
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 2: favorite movies.

2069
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 3: The brothers went in with guns.

2070
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 2: They came out with Josh Clarence Willions third Rest in Peace,

2071
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 2: one of my favorite actors of all time. Raphael says,

2072
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln was a pole white waists piece of trash.

2073
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 2: Rafael says, is a king arrant. I'm about to offer

2074
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 2: a defense, but we do no partners.

2075
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 3: We just great like that.

2076
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 2: However, if you can be a Beyonce, come through, let's

2077
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 2: rude as timeline, upgrade me and my glorious purpose. Doctor

2078
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 2: Ruzzel says him asking that woman to be Michelle Obama

2079
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 2: as a stretch. Well, he must not have the been

2080
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 2: the only great actor in the relationship if he was expecting

2081
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 2: all that. Alisa says, Malcolm had Betty Meger have Merly?

2082
01:40:58,160 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 3: George had Weezy bitch be my rock?

2083
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:04,639
Speaker 2: Jonathan Majors beat my rock at least says, I mean,

2084
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 2: do these abusive men have a man on somewhere else?

2085
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 3: Swear they all do the sact same shit. Yeah.

2086
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 2: The more more stuff has come out since we did

2087
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 2: this episode. And once again this is why, though, child,

2088
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,879
Speaker 2: this is why you can always depend on the Blackout

2089
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 2: Tips podcast and at least me to never be on

2090
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 2: here like see these they trying to take a black

2091
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 2: man down.

2092
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 3: See when you see a brother of rods.

2093
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm not doing that because then now I look

2094
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:33,719
Speaker 2: like a fucking fool six weeks, six months later, because

2095
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 2: you got text messages like I didn't beat you in

2096
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 2: the face, too bad, didd like.

2097
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah you did it, nigga, shut the fuck up.

2098
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Rod and I have the same issues

2099
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 2: with candles that Marshall's my favorite candles d W cotton blossom,

2100
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 2: and I haven't been able to find it since I've

2101
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 2: been on the hunt for years. Well, they probably just

2102
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,559
Speaker 2: continue that because it sound racist, So that's not It's

2103
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 2: sound like a flower. Cotton blossom is cotton blossoms. That's

2104
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 2: the cotton plant is a flower.

2105
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking of something else.

2106
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm sorry, y'all.

2107
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 3: I was like, what kind of flowers? That not bad?

2108
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 2: Queen or Key Taylor Wright saying, my granddad used to

2109
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 2: tell me I was cruising for a bruise when I

2110
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 2: was a child. Now say it now, say it to

2111
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: my niece and nephews. Cynthia says, voted yes ish in

2112
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 2: the poll because me and my daughter and my mom

2113
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 2: can see each other's location.

2114
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 3: We all just checked.

2115
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,679
Speaker 2: My daughter's fresh out of high school and college in Atlanta.

2116
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 2: Nothing crazy though, Yeah, the jewelry was the one for me.

2117
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 3: When I was like, oh, that's that's different.

2118
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know y'all was doing that like that sounded

2119
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 2: like some shit from taking and you put it like

2120
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 2: a like I could track her through a jewelry.

2121
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, and she don't even know. That's wild?

2122
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 3: And like what happens when they find out?

2123
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 2: Because I guarantee you they don't have every single design

2124
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 2: of Jewely, so somebody gonna see that neggags. But my

2125
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 2: mama put a track on me like that, And now

2126
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 2: you got to deal with the trust issues. Yep, but

2127
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 2: that's for you to deal with, not me. All right,

2128
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 2: let's move to the next segment. Let's do voicemails and

2129
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 2: then we'll do doing it for the GRAM. I don't

2130
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 2: know who the first voicemail is from. I guess we'll

2131
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 2: find out together.

2132
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up?

2133
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 6: Ron and Karen?

2134
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: Straight full?

2135
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 6: I think it's my first ques obviously, I indis meant

2136
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 6: for over a decade. But anyway, calling into a comment

2137
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:31,679
Speaker 6: about Karen's comment about there being too many streamer services

2138
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 6: and just you know, you guys been saying this for years,

2139
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 6: but yeah, I just want to piggyback on what she said.

2140
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 6: I want to preface this with you know, I might

2141
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 6: be a little bit biased because I worked for, you know,

2142
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 6: one of the oldest and most successful streaming companies, but

2143
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 6: you know, there are too many, and it's so funny that,

2144
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,759
Speaker 6: you know, they seem to have forgotten a very basic

2145
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 6: economic principle, microeconomic principle, which is the addressable wallet. And

2146
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 6: nobody except for like the just Bethos of the world,

2147
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,719
Speaker 6: have unlimited money. For both of us, we got to choose,

2148
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 6: you know, where we spend our money on because it's

2149
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 6: not unlimited.

2150
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 1: And even if all of the streaming services had perfect

2151
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 1: content that we all love, the reality is both of

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Speaker 1: us couldn't afford it, you know, all of them, even

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Speaker 1: if we wanted to. And it's so funny that now

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01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: the streaming services are like bundling up with each other

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01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like there's a story about Apple TV and

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01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:44,719
Speaker 1: Paramount bundling up. And my company, our Black Friday sale

2157
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 1: was getting niggas to sign up for another like add

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01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: on for another streaming company that's not affiliated with our company.

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01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 1: So it's funny, you know. Now everybody's like, I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have sixty percent of the subscription money than no subscription money.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, this it'll be as soon to see what

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01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,679
Speaker 1: it's going in the future art piece.

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01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I one hundred percent agreed.

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01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 7: Like I said, I had a problem with this from

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Speaker 7: the very beginning because the Netflix model was simpler and

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01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 7: you could literally go to Netflix and anything you could

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01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 7: think under underneath the sun was there.

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Speaker 3: And it's things now where not trying to be funny.

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01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 7: I will automatically go to Netflix and enough people have

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01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 7: searched for some shit that's not on Netflix, it'll pop up.

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01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 7: You'd be like, but it ain't here. That means that

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01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 7: a lot of people still have Netflix. It's their primary service,

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01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 7: and they think if if something is streaming, it should

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Speaker 7: be on Netflix, like it should be. And so it's

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01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 7: one of these things where yeah, they're bunding it up,

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01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 7: just like cable companies. They're bunding it up because they

2177
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 7: realize it's hard out here for a pimp. And Netflix

2178
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 7: was like, hey doll, we went through all the growing pains.

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01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 7: We've we actually listened to our customers, we worked. I

2180
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 7: don't know if Netflix has a what do you call

2181
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 7: it a trade? But it's some shit that Netflix does,

2182
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 7: Like everybody can do this, but apparently everybody.

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01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 3: Can't and they don't and it makes a difference.

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Speaker 7: And most of the streaming services all right, but when

2185
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 7: it comes to Netflix, over the years, they have done

2186
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 7: shit that you didn't even know you needed. You know,

2187
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 7: I press play now if I'm you know, I like

2188
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 7: a lot of animes.

2189
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 3: So if I'm watching you.

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01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 7: Know, forty five episodes or Sisster seven, they know it's

2191
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 7: gonna be the same goddamn theme song. So you know what,

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01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 7: I can skip, I can skip ending, I can skip,

2193
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 7: I can skip just shit like that. To say your

2194
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 7: time now, they be like, is you there?

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01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 8: Are you?

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01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 3: Are you still that? Have you felled asleep?

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01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 7: Shit like that, like shit that other services just don't have,

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01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 7: and they actually cannot compete. And they realizing that they

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01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 7: cannot compete. I think they a lot of them took

2200
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 7: Netflix for granted and they think we'll just paying them.

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01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 7: They're waste of time and a waste of money. It

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01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 7: must be easy. That's literally what they did with Netflix.

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01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 7: Everybody else looked at Netflix and said it must be easy.

2204
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 7: Then it was like bitch, it ain't easy. It's this

2205
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 7: is really really hard, and it costs a whole lot

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01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 7: of money and a whole lot of manpower. But that

2207
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 7: was like, we don't suck this money in, you know,

2208
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 7: we were going to see, you know, how long this lasts.

2209
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 7: And most of them have not made a profit, probably

2210
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 7: will never make a profit. And so I think the

2211
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 7: reality of we need to combo this up is real

2212
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 7: because now whenever you log on certain things, they'll be like, hey,

2213
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 7: here is Disney and Hulu, here is such such and

2214
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 7: such such such such a oh you got this, pay

2215
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 7: three dollars an extra a month, and you could add

2216
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 7: some of these other service to this package, you know,

2217
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 7: versus you paying full price for each of them individually,

2218
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 7: and you know, and shit like that. So, like you said,

2219
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 7: they rarely take sixty percent and actually probably gonna end

2220
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 7: up possibly end up being less than that, because I

2221
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 7: think as time goes along and as less and less

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01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,759
Speaker 7: people go to the movies and more and more people

2223
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 7: actually be like I'm gonna start streaming. It's gonna make

2224
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 7: people make decisions. And cables done went up and shit too,

2225
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 7: so you know, and for a lot of people, the

2226
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 7: constant they're investing. For some people, any streaming serface is

2227
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:01,639
Speaker 7: literally the cost of cable.

2228
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 2: Yep, I agree, and uh yeah you said it all.

2229
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 3: Let's go to the next wos ma'il is from d.

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01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 8: Hey, Rody and Karen. This is Ramsey Jenkins from Texas.

2231
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 8: Real quick, because I know I don't have much time.

2232
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 8: I started going back because of course I'll hop on

2233
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 8: alive and then something will distract me or something will

2234
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 8: come up and I can't finish the love. I'm going

2235
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 8: back doing the shows, and I am so so blown

2236
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 8: away by just how compassionate, how thoughtful, how caring you

2237
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 8: all are when it comes to feedback and listening to

2238
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,759
Speaker 8: what we as listeners and viewers have to say about

2239
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 8: certain topics, the power of the vote. This is going

2240
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 8: to be one of my new phaves for this year

2241
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 8: as we're getting ready to hit it in twenty twenty four.

2242
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 8: I just love how you all like deconstructed, put it

2243
01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 8: back together. And then you know, we're black people, so

2244
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 8: we're coming from a perspective of what we've witnessed in

2245
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 8: America as black people. So I thank you all for

2246
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 8: your authenticity, I thank you for your passion, and I

2247
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 8: thank you all for just you know, cackling tough issues

2248
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 8: and putting a more human spin on them. So I appreciate,

2249
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 8: appreciate you all. I'm gonna get caught up eventually, I'm

2250
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 8: gonna stay in the live. I'm not gonna get too distracted.

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01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 8: But y'all have a good day, and just thank you

2252
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:30,720
Speaker 8: all for being so passionate about things that affect not

2253
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 8: only the black community but our entire world. All right,

2254
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 8: y'all have a great day.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, thank you. Yeah, cause we have to live

2256
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 3: in this world. We have to exist in this world,

2257
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 3: and everybody experiences is different.

2258
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:49,480
Speaker 7: And like I said, the thing about us, our experience

2259
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 7: is actually not find a different black experience because we've

2260
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 7: met people and interacted with people outside of the South

2261
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 7: and their perspective on black.

2262
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 3: Mins and how they feel about things.

2263
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 7: Some of them are the same and then some of

2264
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 7: my completely different depend on how their environment has impacted them.

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01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2266
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:11,639
Speaker 2: I think when you approach anything on just like trying

2267
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 2: not to start at the you disagree with me, so

2268
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 2: you're stupid and worthless if you approach things without that.

2269
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 2: A lot of times, like you have to make room

2270
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,720
Speaker 2: for other people's perspectives, and I think that's what I

2271
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 2: try to do. I'm not always capable of it of it,

2272
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 2: but a lot of times I try to do that

2273
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 2: with people I feel are well meaning or very similar

2274
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 2: to me, rather than just castigating them and throwing them out.

2275
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you thought about this probably as much

2276
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 2: as I did. You came to your conclusion and it

2277
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 2: is what it is, and I'm gonna try to respect that.

2278
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 2: But you know, eat, but I'm not gonna lose myself

2279
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 2: in the fact that you feel a different way, So

2280
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 2: I better agree with you, Like, nah, I'm cool with

2281
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 2: being like, Yeah, I respect where you're coming from, but

2282
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,759
Speaker 2: it's not how I would do it. And I'm sure

2283
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 2: that you feel the same about me. What we do

2284
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 2: for a living is too we give our opinion too

2285
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 2: much for us to be so fucking missed, like nobody's

2286
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:19,919
Speaker 2: opinion but ours account Like is that would be insane,

2287
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 2: that's just narcissism.

2288
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 7: Agreed, Agreed, And a lot of times, you know, with

2289
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 7: the exception is sometimes particularly with rodri our thoughts are

2290
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 7: well thought out, like we don't come at this with

2291
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 7: no bullshit, like you know, so most of the time,

2292
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 7: any counter arguments, quote unquote anything we thought about it,

2293
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 7: we consider it, and this is the conclusion that we have.

2294
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 3: Next verusmail.

2295
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 9: Hi, this is Minion, longtime listener and big fan of

2296
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 9: the Black Guy who keipts. I'm going to try to

2297
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 9: keep it short. I just have two thoughts I want

2298
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 9: to share. The first is something that came up from

2299
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 9: the conversation about Julie's email, and I'll get most of

2300
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 9: my reactions because I know y'all have talked that all

2301
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 9: the way through. The only thing I'll add is, I

2302
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 9: wonder if some people like Julie, but I imagine she's

2303
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 9: certainly not alone. But I wonder if some folks are

2304
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 9: challenged by the idea that many millennials see a kind

2305
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 9: of futility of, you know, working themselves to death for

2306
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 9: our company when the payoffs that we were supposed to

2307
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 9: be able to access, like stable housing and stuff seem

2308
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 9: wholly out of reach. Because it's a lot easier to

2309
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 9: position millennials at fault, as in the position we find

2310
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 9: ourselves in is our fault because we're eating at kind

2311
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 9: of toast, wanting to work less or whatever. But I'm

2312
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 9: I feel like that's a lot easier to wrap our

2313
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 9: minds around than kind of squaring the fact that as

2314
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 9: a generation we've been fucked, because that violates these kind

2315
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 9: of myths about society that we all have, regardless of generation.

2316
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 9: Be said, the other thing I wanted to share was

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01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,839
Speaker 9: I don't agree with everything you've said about Palestine and Israel,

2318
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 9: but one of the points I do agree with you

2319
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 9: on that that's what I actually want to raise up,

2320
01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 9: is that it must be terrible for people what they're

2321
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,680
Speaker 9: palaced in your or Jewish which is something that you

2322
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 9: both said that's really real. I'm a high school teacher

2323
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 9: and what I've been seeing in the classroom has been

2324
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 9: really intense, Like teenagers are inundated with so much propaganda

2325
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 9: and just unregulated content, and you know, not just teenagers,

2326
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 9: you know, so many folks are just unequipped to filter

2327
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:22,480
Speaker 9: through it because of the lack of media literacy.

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01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:22,839
Speaker 6: In this country.

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01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 9: And so while I've seen this kind of huge spike

2330
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 9: in support for Palestine from young people who, like three

2331
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 9: months ago, had very little interest in global politics, right

2332
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 9: I'm also seeing huge spikes and anti Semitism and helping

2333
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 9: them try to understand the complexities of all this. While

2334
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 9: you know, a full blown genocide is unfolding before I

2335
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 9: really eyes is incredibly difficult, especially because of the constraints

2336
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 9: of teaching.

2337
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 3: So yeah, cut off what you call back.

2338
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 9: Mine on again. Okay, I was so close, But yeah,

2339
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,640
Speaker 9: all I was saying is that, you know, helping can

2340
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 9: of young people understand the complexities of all this while

2341
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:59,560
Speaker 9: a full blown genocide is happening is really hard, especially

2342
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 9: you know, because it's just the way that teaching, you know,

2343
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 9: we kind of have our hands tied in a lot

2344
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 9: of ways. But yeah, I just wanted to note that

2345
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,560
Speaker 9: you both were right when you mentioned that when you

2346
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 9: were talking about that kind of human piece for affected communities,

2347
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 9: and I just wanted to note that young people I'm

2348
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 9: seeing are really struggling to engage in that reality without

2349
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 9: falling into racist and ethnophobic lindes of thinking. Right, So

2350
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 9: I just appreciate that you guys that are raising that conversation,

2351
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 9: even if there are pieces that I disagree with you on,

2352
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 9: because I think that piece that you raised up I

2353
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 9: really really.

2354
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 1: Connect with us.

2355
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 9: Thanks for everything that you both do, Karen and Rod

2356
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 9: y'all fantastic big shout out to the Black EYEO tips

2357
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 9: everything you do all right, Thanks bye.

2358
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2359
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 2: And you know, as far as a disagreement thing, I

2360
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 2: don't think it's possible for anyone to do a podcast

2361
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 2: episode or even an entire podcast dedicated to Israel Palestine

2362
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 2: and come away with and we agree on all everything.

2363
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 3: It's too fucking much stuff. Yes it is.

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01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 2: So I don't even know what you disagreed about, but

2365
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 2: I assume everybody that heard the side of my voice

2366
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 2: had some part of that they disagreed about with something.

2367
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even think I'm that passionate, and

2368
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 2: I don't really think I took that hard line of a.

2369
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 3: Stance on all of it.

2370
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 2: But you know, if you did your own podcast and

2371
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: you had your hour and a half to come out

2372
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 2: here and break down the conflict in the ways, you

2373
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 2: feel all right, soon be leaving a message for you going,

2374
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 2: I don't agree with everything you said, but hopefully they

2375
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 2: say the other part that you said, which is you

2376
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 2: know you appreciate what we tried to do it and

2377
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: you know whatnot because you know, I don't know where

2378
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 2: you disagree with, but it could be anything. You know,

2379
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 2: you could be the person that's like and they should

2380
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: kill fifteen thousand people or whatever, and I'd be like, yeah, see,

2381
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that, So I don't know where

2382
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 2: your angle of disagreement would be.

2383
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 3: But I don't. This don't seem like the kind of

2384
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 3: conversation where you we wouldn't.

2385
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 2: Expect or anyone should expect some sort of like complete agreement.

2386
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 3: I don't think it's even possible.

2387
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 7: No, it's impossible because there's a lot of other factors.

2388
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:13,839
Speaker 7: There's a lot of facts, there's a lot of history,

2389
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 7: there's a lot of Some people know things that other

2390
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 7: people don't. Some people, you know, are more diverse in

2391
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 7: that area and that region is some people are not.

2392
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 7: So people are talking from different perspectives and from different

2393
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 7: knowledges and different understanding, and you know, some people, particularly

2394
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 7: hearing the South, I'm maybe talking for a place where

2395
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 7: this shit wasn't even really touched unless not trying funny.

2396
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 7: It was like an ap history or some shit like that,

2397
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 7: but actually went into depths and details and shit like that.

2398
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 7: But I wasn't, so, no, we didn't need to even

2399
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 7: talk about these these types of things.

2400
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I don't, And I think honestly,

2401
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 2: if anything should come across in that conversation was how

2402
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 2: much we were like we don't know how the fastest

2403
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 2: and ins and outs. I just know what I've been

2404
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 2: listening to and hearing from other people that's not my

2405
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 2: lived experience. Can only have empathy and imagine what it's

2406
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 2: like to be over there. So you know, hopefully people

2407
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 2: weren't holding us the too high of a bar on that,

2408
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 2: because you know you This one thing I'm extremely aware

2409
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 2: of is people on either side of this could easily

2410
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 2: run circles around me. So I'm not even coming at

2411
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 2: this with the ego of like you should agree with

2412
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,839
Speaker 2: what I have to say. I think we said several times.

2413
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 2: At least I did many times in that conversation. Hey,

2414
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 2: check out these other sources that know more than me,

2415
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 2: that are talking to experts, right and you know, so there,

2416
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 2: if you disagree that, there's really no need to even

2417
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 2: bring it up, because I don't even know. I'm telling

2418
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 2: you I don't know. I can't tell you more that

2419
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, So all right, there we go.

2420
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 5: Next voicemail, Hey, roar, this is Kiana. So I'm listening

2421
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 5: to the episode Standing on Business, and y'all were talking

2422
01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 5: about how the teenage kids, I think stilly are wearing

2423
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 5: this key masks and they're trying to legislate against that.

2424
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 5: And you spuccifically mentioned DC and how time has been

2425
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 5: on the rise. I'm a native Washingtonian and now I

2426
01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 5: live just outside of DC, like literally scou and that's

2427
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 5: outside of DS. And we also are having an upsling

2428
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 5: in crime. We've been having a lot of like carjackings

2429
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 5: and things like that. And what we're finding is that

2430
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 5: there are a lot of older people who are getting

2431
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 5: the kids to come at the crimes because the kids

2432
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 5: don't get too much time and we really try to

2433
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 5: do some like justice reform stuff where the kids don't

2434
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 5: really spend time in and so because even more incentive

2435
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 5: for the adults to get the kids looking at the crimes.

2436
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 5: And so you know, I'm I'm on my counsel and

2437
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 5: a lot of people are like, we had to get

2438
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 5: the kids to stay in longer and all that type

2439
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 5: of stuff, and like, I agree with one hundred percent

2440
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 5: that's what you said about the crime bill happening all

2441
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 5: over again. And so me and some other black legislatives

2442
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 5: at Front George's County are like, you know, the answer

2443
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 5: is not lawing the kids affording definitely amun of times

2444
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 5: it's investing in the school. It's diversion programs, it's after

2445
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 5: school activities, it's actual resource in the community to keep

2446
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 5: the kids from having a need to go out and

2447
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 5: come into crime. And it's also mental health care because

2448
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 5: a lot of the kids who are out here are

2449
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 5: traumatized because they don't have community support. So I agree

2450
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 5: with it everything you said. This is absolutely rightful going

2451
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 5: back into the grind belt, and black people will once

2452
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 5: again be like, we don't understand how this happened, even

2453
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 5: though fine, large we're the ones saying that the kids

2454
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 5: need to be locked up longer, like it's sucked up.

2455
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 5: But part of living in a cursore system for your

2456
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 5: entire life is people not really understanding what operated outside

2457
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 5: of that system looks like and the ways that you

2458
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 5: can actually get people support so that they don't wind

2459
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 5: up in the system. So anyway, just allad to say,

2460
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 5: I love y'all, And she called back, Hey, Ryan, Cary

2461
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 5: is Caren again? Okay, So I'm still in the Super

2462
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 5: episode and I'm listening to the part now where y'all

2463
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 5: are talking about the law that will make it illegal

2464
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:03,760
Speaker 5: to do a inmous sperm donations. So, first of all, Ry.

2465
02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 5: I know you love a good documentary. You've probably already

2466
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 5: seen them, but there's one on Netflix called Our Father

2467
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 5: about a doctor who's back in I want to say,

2468
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 5: like maybe it's eighties or nineties, was one of the

2469
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 5: first doctors who were doing in vitro with live spirms.

2470
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 5: And people were thinking they were like getting the firm.

2471
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 5: They were quested eut of the catalog or their spouse.

2472
02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:29,240
Speaker 5: Whole time the doctor was using his firm. That is

2473
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 5: about the shit.

2474
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:31,879
Speaker 3: He ended up doing.

2475
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 5: This and creating over like one hundred and something kids

2476
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:39,520
Speaker 5: that were his and they found out that this is

2477
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 5: what happened, that they had siblings through twenty three and meters.

2478
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 5: You specifically mentioned twenty three and me. But the other

2479
02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 5: thing I wanted to bring up is what makes it

2480
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 5: so scary is Roe v. Wade getting overturned. It wasn't abortion.

2481
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 5: It was your rights to medical privacy. And I knew

2482
02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:58,840
Speaker 5: and you knew, and we were shouting at that when

2483
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:01,280
Speaker 5: Roe v. Wade got overturned, that was just gonna be

2484
02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 5: the beginning of Republicans reaching in and doing a whole

2485
02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 5: bunch of stuff that they have no business going and

2486
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 5: taking away your privacy. What will be waving overturned is

2487
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:10,880
Speaker 5: what makes it easier.

2488
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:11,440
Speaker 1: To do this.

2489
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 5: So yep, that's it. Start having a good day.

2490
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:19,760
Speaker 2: Let me thank you Keana and great points. Thank you,

2491
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:23,520
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. And yeah, we knew over a was

2492
02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:26,280
Speaker 2: the first step. And uh, and.

2493
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 3: This ain't the last step. This newest step I did.

2494
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 3: I did watch that documentary.

2495
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:35,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, and and and the thing is, uh, when she

2496
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 7: was talking about like the the the with the kids

2497
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:40,160
Speaker 7: and the you know, and people talking about lock them up,

2498
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:44,800
Speaker 7: and the thing is, uh, what's so wild. It's because

2499
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:47,680
Speaker 7: of the structure of this country. If somebody in DC

2500
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 7: would say, hey, we understand that people are complaining about

2501
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 7: these bills, but like, hey, a lot of these youths

2502
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 7: are committing these crimes because you know, they're being you.

2503
02:01:57,360 --> 02:01:58,600
Speaker 3: Know, recruited by older people.

2504
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:00,839
Speaker 7: What we're going to do is we're going to increase

2505
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,560
Speaker 7: your taxes by five percent or two percent or whatever

2506
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 7: and take this money and put it back. A lot

2507
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,440
Speaker 7: of those same people will complain, so you can't have

2508
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:11,800
Speaker 7: it both ways. You can't well, so you can have

2509
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:12,600
Speaker 7: it both ways.

2510
02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:18,240
Speaker 2: But the thing is, I think people are like, maybe

2511
02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 2: that's an alternative. They listen to some of these places

2512
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 2: have done things like that, right, But there's a couple

2513
02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 2: of hard things that I think people are having trouble balancing. One,

2514
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 2: people that do crimes don't necessarily follow all the logical

2515
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 2: steps that we agree that they should.

2516
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 8: You know.

2517
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the limits of stuff like reformative justice.

2518
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 2: That it's the stuff we don't want to talk about

2519
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 2: it stuff. It's like, I believe in reformave justice, I

2520
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:48,840
Speaker 2: believe in second chances. What do you do when a

2521
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 2: person's like first chance? Cause I'm not saying the crime

2522
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 2: you say I did, I'm not agreeing that I did that,

2523
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,000
Speaker 2: or I don't think it was wrong that I beat

2524
02:02:57,040 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 2: my wife pipate.

2525
02:02:59,000 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you.

2526
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:01,600
Speaker 2: Let me out, I am gonna beat her ass again,

2527
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:04,240
Speaker 2: and shit you gonna do about it? Like then we

2528
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:06,840
Speaker 2: got Now now we have a fucking limit to our

2529
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 2: community idea because this person is essentially opting out of community.

2530
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 2: So it requires a buy in even from people who,

2531
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:16,640
Speaker 2: by the nature of crime, it is alluring to people

2532
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 2: that that is people not buying in to a social construct, right,

2533
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 2: So that's a big part of it. The second part

2534
02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 2: of it is we assume that the black people in

2535
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:33,960
Speaker 2: these communities do not want to be like, we'll regret

2536
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:38,360
Speaker 2: this ninety crime bill resurgent idea. We assume that they're

2537
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,240
Speaker 2: gonna look back and be like, fuck, we lost a

2538
02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 2: whole generation to carceration.

2539
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:43,040
Speaker 3: And I'm not.

2540
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:47,040
Speaker 2: Sure they will because, like, while that is how twitter SKUs,

2541
02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you go in there and talk

2542
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 2: to like a black person that was alive during the

2543
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:55,120
Speaker 2: crack eighties and nineties right and said, hey, you were

2544
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 2: one of people pushing to get these people off the street.

2545
02:03:57,640 --> 02:04:00,200
Speaker 2: Do you regret what they did to your community? Some

2546
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 2: of them might be like, I actually do not, yeah,

2547
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:06,280
Speaker 2: because for you it was a theory, a high for

2548
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 2: looting thing and the calls of power. For me, it

2549
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:13,760
Speaker 2: was my car was stolen, people were getting killed, no

2550
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 2: police was coming.

2551
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 3: I did not.

2552
02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:19,040
Speaker 2: See these people as like this getting I didn't see

2553
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:21,920
Speaker 2: them as salvageable. I didn't see them as they just

2554
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:25,320
Speaker 2: need some rehabilitation and reform. I saw them as get

2555
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:29,280
Speaker 2: them off the streets. And I feel like we're getting

2556
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 2: there without crack, Like we're getting out crack. And this

2557
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 2: is how it happens. I watched that happen before in

2558
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:39,200
Speaker 2: my lifetime. This is how it happens is us being like, yeah,

2559
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:42,080
Speaker 2: no ski mask. Okay, you know, why aren't the kids

2560
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 2: in jail longer? And next thing you know, you go,

2561
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:48,160
Speaker 2: oh they passed a bill. Oh shit, everybody's locked up?

2562
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 2: Who did this?

2563
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 3: You know? All right? I decided not to do keep

2564
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,240
Speaker 3: it for the doing it for the ground.

2565
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:58,160
Speaker 2: We'll do it on a regular show cause this is

2566
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 2: gonna be three four hours if we do keep doing

2567
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 2: it for the ground today. Okay, so I'm gonna go

2568
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:04,000
Speaker 2: to the emails, which you did get a lot of,

2569
02:05:04,040 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 2: and it's probably gonna still take another thirty to forty

2570
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:10,720
Speaker 2: five minutes, so no problem. Uh Keana Wright saying or Quahana,

2571
02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 2: I am listening to this episode about the Power to Vote.

2572
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:16,320
Speaker 3: I'm listening this episode.

2573
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 7: Now.

2574
02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 2: Let me say, I'm so thankful that you have created

2575
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:19,920
Speaker 2: a space where this kind of discourse can take place.

2576
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:22,480
Speaker 2: I agree with everything that's been said, especially when Rod

2577
02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:24,280
Speaker 2: said that a lot of anger around this topic is

2578
02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:26,880
Speaker 2: because people are confused and most direct about the most

2579
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 2: direct path forward. I wanted to add my two cents.

2580
02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:32,040
Speaker 2: I think another issue is everyone is terrified. Many of

2581
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 2: US Americans are terrified of what another four years of

2582
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:36,920
Speaker 2: Trump as president will mean these fears are valid because

2583
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 2: our freedom and the freedom of our kids.

2584
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 3: And grandkids are on the line.

2585
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 2: Naturally, no Israeli and Palestinian people who are horrified their

2586
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 2: fears are valid because their freedom and the freedom of

2587
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:48,240
Speaker 2: their kids and grandkids are on the lines. And the

2588
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:50,840
Speaker 2: people whose family are being directly affected and even though

2589
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:54,480
Speaker 2: passively watching and effective and horrif affected and horrifi. I

2590
02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:56,800
Speaker 2: think a lot of the discourse devolves the anger because

2591
02:05:56,840 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 2: everyone is scared of what they have to lose, and

2592
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 2: many are unrelenting when it comes acknowledging the fears of others.

2593
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:06,000
Speaker 2: We are trying to battle future terror against future and

2594
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 2: current terror. Fear often brings out the worse than us.

2595
02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:12,800
Speaker 2: As I'm still listening y'all mentioned fear. I also think

2596
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:15,320
Speaker 2: that some of what takes this makes this topic heart

2597
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:17,640
Speaker 2: to discuss the conflict that many people may be feeling

2598
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 2: inside about what they've been raised to believe. Many of

2599
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 2: us were raised to always support Israel because of the

2600
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:25,720
Speaker 2: hard Jewish people have faced. They could have be they

2601
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 2: could be having a crisis of conscience. Many were raised

2602
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:30,480
Speaker 2: to see what is happening as an extension of the

2603
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:33,520
Speaker 2: occupation of the Palestinian people, and they are mad that

2604
02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 2: others don't.

2605
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 3: Immediately see it that way.

2606
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 2: I grew up in a family that didn't discuss geopolitics,

2607
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:41,120
Speaker 2: even though black people have always been affected by them. Hell,

2608
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 2: my great grandparents left North Carolina during the Great Migration

2609
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:46,280
Speaker 2: that so many thousands of others did, but it didn't learn.

2610
02:06:46,360 --> 02:06:48,200
Speaker 2: I didn't learn the truth about how Israel became a

2611
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:51,680
Speaker 2: country until recently. As a Christian always grew up pro Israel.

2612
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:54,760
Speaker 2: I thought that was the only option because that's all

2613
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 2: that was resented to me. Yes, it's so interesting about

2614
02:06:57,960 --> 02:07:01,600
Speaker 2: the Christian connection because a lot of the pro Israel

2615
02:07:01,640 --> 02:07:05,000
Speaker 2: thing is some weird prophecy about how like Jewish people

2616
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 2: need to be there when Jesus returns or something. As

2617
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 2: a person that don't believe in any of that shit,

2618
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, this cannot be a reason.

2619
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:17,520
Speaker 3: Anyway.

2620
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 2: It's like, man, people are really dying over this, really dying, y'all,

2621
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:22,839
Speaker 2: And like it's not even coming.

2622
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:23,320
Speaker 3: From a good place.

2623
02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 2: In the Republican Party that's like pro Christian because it's

2624
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:28,840
Speaker 2: on some like, well, we need the Jewish people there

2625
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:30,960
Speaker 2: so that the end.

2626
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 3: Of the world can happen. It's like, what, wait, that's

2627
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 3: your reason, that's your reason, it's the logic behind it. Anyway.

2628
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 2: Hell, my great grandparent and I said that, I thought

2629
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 2: that that was all the option in me learning more

2630
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:47,000
Speaker 2: about these some credible sources and square my ideals and

2631
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:49,720
Speaker 2: values in ways that don't sender Christianity. As I've learned,

2632
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:52,960
Speaker 2: it has helped me be objective and acknowledged that while

2633
02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:55,400
Speaker 2: every country has the right to definish residents, this is

2634
02:07:55,440 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 2: clearly a genocide. I can criticize those early government and

2635
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:02,240
Speaker 2: still have empathy for Jewish people who are scared while

2636
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 2: shouting free Palestine. There can be a both and but

2637
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:07,960
Speaker 2: looking at things only in a binary right and wrong

2638
02:08:08,240 --> 02:08:10,880
Speaker 2: makes people feel like they have control that they do

2639
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 2: not have. Yeah, Like I said, the conversations I've been

2640
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 2: hearing is the people that are angry Israel and Jews

2641
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 2: seem to be like they start saying that's the same

2642
02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 2: to them, and the Israeli government and the Israeli people

2643
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 2: to them all the same, and Zionists and Jewish people

2644
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 2: all the same. And then the same thing with people

2645
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 2: that are upset on the other side, Hamas and Palestinians

2646
02:08:36,520 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 2: to them all the same, and neither side seems to

2647
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:45,839
Speaker 2: relent on that when they're upset, and it's not my history,

2648
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,840
Speaker 2: so maybe they feel there's some valid reason that I

2649
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:54,960
Speaker 2: just don't understand to say that. But that's the nut

2650
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 2: of it, you know. I know this is long, so

2651
02:08:57,160 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm a wrap up with this. I had to go

2652
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:01,839
Speaker 2: look at my will emotions. Under Anger is threatened, frustrated

2653
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,800
Speaker 2: and defended. Under fear is vulnerable, rejected. The word under

2654
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 2: discussed is resentful and disappointed. People are having a lot

2655
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:09,840
Speaker 2: of really huge feelings and you can unpack those if

2656
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:12,160
Speaker 2: you are constantly absorbing things or engaging with people making

2657
02:09:12,160 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 2: you feel overwhelmed.

2658
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 3: It would do us all some good.

2659
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 2: Dune plug a bit and really decipher what has happened

2660
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:18,000
Speaker 2: in the world and how we feel about it.

2661
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and get luck with that.

2662
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:27,000
Speaker 2: Somebody sent us another gender Wars thing about women who

2663
02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:29,920
Speaker 2: were also skilled hunters in ancient times, and it's very

2664
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 2: long and thank you, but I'm not reading it, Kevin says, Dear, listen,

2665
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:36,360
Speaker 2: we don't do those type of gender Wars content.

2666
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:38,400
Speaker 3: We just need a video and some people need to

2667
02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:40,920
Speaker 3: be short and sweet and straight to the point. Kevin says,

2668
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 3: dear rid of care.

2669
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:43,240
Speaker 2: Guess today for my job, I had to drive for

2670
02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:45,000
Speaker 2: several hours take advantage of time to listen to at

2671
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 2: least three episodes of your podcast. I enjoyed all of them,

2672
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:50,040
Speaker 2: but I was particularly impressed episode twenty eight fourteen, where

2673
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 2: you discussed the power to Vote. I think you guys

2674
02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 2: did an excellent job of explaining how black Americans should

2675
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 2: view voting and you two are white, and why you

2676
02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:58,240
Speaker 2: two are so committed to using the.

2677
02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 3: Power of your vote. This episode is thought provoking for

2678
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:01,560
Speaker 3: me personally.

2679
02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:04,200
Speaker 2: For a variety of reasons, I decided to retire in Texas,

2680
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:07,600
Speaker 2: and here I can see so clearly what happens when

2681
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:10,160
Speaker 2: people do not use the power to vote at any rate.

2682
02:10:10,200 --> 02:10:12,280
Speaker 2: I just want to congratulate you both on putting out

2683
02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:16,120
Speaker 2: such great podcasts episode, Kevin, Thank you, Kevin. Yeah, it's

2684
02:10:16,160 --> 02:10:18,040
Speaker 2: always interesting when we do shows like that, because that's

2685
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:20,760
Speaker 2: one of those shows where I'm like, this is gonna

2686
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:23,360
Speaker 2: be a drag, is not gonna be funny. I don't

2687
02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 2: have a lot of jokes and segments. I don't even

2688
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:28,640
Speaker 2: know if people will skip this or whatever, but it

2689
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 2: feels important and I want to say this, and I'm

2690
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 2: glad this person wrote in so we can talk about

2691
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:35,640
Speaker 2: it and hopefully it kind of puts it to bed.

2692
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:40,600
Speaker 2: And honestly, y'all's response this week has been overwhelming, overwhelmingly

2693
02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 2: positive and understanding and empathetic, and I'm glad we did it. Honestly,

2694
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm glad we did it the show, you know. I

2695
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:51,120
Speaker 2: even ended it so and had hit me up. A

2696
02:10:51,120 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 2: friend hit me up on Twitter. It was like, man,

2697
02:10:53,320 --> 02:10:55,040
Speaker 2: you really signed it upset or you da da da,

2698
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:57,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm actually not upset, And I

2699
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:01,400
Speaker 2: really hope that's not what came out of that, because

2700
02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm not mad. It's like, well, at the end, you

2701
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:05,520
Speaker 2: didn't even do segments, you just ended the show. And

2702
02:11:05,560 --> 02:11:08,360
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, that's because I just felt it

2703
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:11,240
Speaker 2: was that important, right, Yeah. I really didn't feel like

2704
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:14,200
Speaker 2: us doing guests the race after that or whatever. I

2705
02:11:14,240 --> 02:11:16,840
Speaker 2: need people to understand we feel that important. It's not

2706
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:19,400
Speaker 2: a joke for us. We're not having fun with this,

2707
02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:22,280
Speaker 2: and we're not taunting and teasing people. We're not trying

2708
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 2: to antagonize people. We are as soberly seriously minded about

2709
02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 2: our right to vote and using it as people are

2710
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:33,560
Speaker 2: about not using theirs and that's it. We don't need

2711
02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:36,600
Speaker 2: to even fight about it, you know, Zenz writes back

2712
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:39,720
Speaker 2: in Zenz, of course the emailer who wrote us about

2713
02:11:39,720 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 2: it in the first place.

2714
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:41,760
Speaker 3: They're riding Caeren.

2715
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:43,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to write in and thank you again for

2716
02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:46,280
Speaker 2: reading my email and for also seeking clarification about what

2717
02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:48,840
Speaker 2: I meant when I wrote in. I'm a few episodes behind.

2718
02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:52,080
Speaker 2: My brother told me about Okay, your brother, Okay, we're putting.

2719
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:53,880
Speaker 3: The family off. Shout out to your brother.

2720
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:56,600
Speaker 2: My brother told me about my email being addressed on

2721
02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:59,160
Speaker 2: episode twenty eight fourteen, so I skipped ahead and listened

2722
02:11:59,160 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 2: to it. I was very surprised he dedicated the entire

2723
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:03,760
Speaker 2: episode to my email, because I didn't really expect it

2724
02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:06,240
Speaker 2: to evote such a strong reaction. I do have a

2725
02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:09,160
Speaker 2: clearer understanding now of your position. I'm voting in other

2726
02:12:09,200 --> 02:12:11,280
Speaker 2: forms of action as ways to get the government to

2727
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:13,840
Speaker 2: do more. There are many atrocities taking place around the

2728
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 2: world at any given time, and while my sole focus

2729
02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:19,720
Speaker 2: isn't the genocide in Gaza, I will admit that seeing

2730
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:22,600
Speaker 2: the violence being inflicted on Palestinian's day after day has

2731
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:24,320
Speaker 2: made it stand out more prominent than me.

2732
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean we are absorbing so.

2733
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:35,080
Speaker 2: Much and I don't think we've really even thought about

2734
02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:39,600
Speaker 2: how much we're seeing. I'm not even saying good or bad,

2735
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 2: but how much more we're just seeing of the world

2736
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:43,800
Speaker 2: now because of the Internet.

2737
02:12:44,320 --> 02:12:47,360
Speaker 3: And I don't think. I don't know what kind of

2738
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:48,240
Speaker 3: person could.

2739
02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:51,440
Speaker 2: See the videos, even the ones I've seen, which I

2740
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:53,760
Speaker 2: have not seen all or many I do not go

2741
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 2: down that rabbit hole, but even the ones that have

2742
02:12:57,280 --> 02:13:00,440
Speaker 2: slipped through the cracks where you just see like children

2743
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:04,560
Speaker 2: or delac rubble or this person's entire family is dead,

2744
02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:07,880
Speaker 2: or this professor that I don't know how you see

2745
02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:11,000
Speaker 2: that and feel nothing, And if you feel nothing in

2746
02:13:11,200 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 2: like and your heart is that hardened. I don't think

2747
02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:15,440
Speaker 2: there's a thing I could say or anyone.

2748
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:16,080
Speaker 3: Can say that would reach you.

2749
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:19,200
Speaker 2: I agreed, because you know, I don't know how that's

2750
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:24,760
Speaker 2: not sad, you know, I just don't. So, yeah, I

2751
02:13:25,480 --> 02:13:28,440
Speaker 2: think the people that have kind of like allowed themselves

2752
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:30,640
Speaker 2: to kind of go down that path on social media.

2753
02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:33,480
Speaker 2: I remember I logged in my TikTok one day. I'd

2754
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:36,520
Speaker 2: never really be on TikTok, but like, if I log

2755
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:40,960
Speaker 2: into TikTok, it's just you know, like for a few seconds,

2756
02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:43,360
Speaker 2: maybe scroll some videos, and I'm out, Like if I'm

2757
02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:45,840
Speaker 2: not posting a video of myself, has nothing to say.

2758
02:13:46,400 --> 02:13:49,240
Speaker 2: But I remember going on TikTok one day a few

2759
02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:53,080
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and someone had tagged me to like twenty

2760
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:58,520
Speaker 2: videos of like Palestinian children, dead people.

2761
02:13:58,440 --> 02:13:59,560
Speaker 3: All this different stuff.

2762
02:14:00,440 --> 02:14:03,280
Speaker 2: And I don't know why they tagged me specifically. I

2763
02:14:03,360 --> 02:14:05,240
Speaker 2: don't know what I was supposed to get from that.

2764
02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:11,240
Speaker 2: I you know, once, they didn't leave any commentary for me.

2765
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:14,680
Speaker 2: They didn't direct message me like with a hey, rodo

2766
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:18,520
Speaker 2: da da da da what like? And I would imagine

2767
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:21,280
Speaker 2: if I would have logged in and someone had tagged

2768
02:14:21,280 --> 02:14:26,120
Speaker 2: me the twenty images of October seventh, and you know,

2769
02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:29,280
Speaker 2: people bringing up like sexual assault and kidnap victims and stuff,

2770
02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 2: same same thing, Like it would mean you've been scrolling

2771
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:36,880
Speaker 2: and seeing this stuff and you're sharing it with me

2772
02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:39,680
Speaker 2: to how somehow emotionally affect me so that I go

2773
02:14:40,120 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 2: fuck fuck whatever I would say before, fuck my rational brain.

2774
02:14:43,600 --> 02:14:47,400
Speaker 3: I'm on this side now, but I don't one.

2775
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:49,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you would get from me

2776
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:53,880
Speaker 2: just blindly going I'm on this side, but also like

2777
02:14:54,440 --> 02:14:56,640
Speaker 2: that you don't see how that says something about what

2778
02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:59,880
Speaker 2: you've been scrolling, what you've been seeing you don't see

2779
02:14:59,880 --> 02:15:03,200
Speaker 2: how like the fact that you would send me what

2780
02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:05,840
Speaker 2: I would consider to be pretty horrific images, Like so

2781
02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:08,320
Speaker 2: that I log into TikTok and the first thing I

2782
02:15:08,360 --> 02:15:10,880
Speaker 2: see is twenty horrific videos.

2783
02:15:11,440 --> 02:15:12,280
Speaker 3: You don't think.

2784
02:15:12,080 --> 02:15:16,000
Speaker 2: That's you've kind of lost something there, you know what

2785
02:15:16,080 --> 02:15:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, and I say this as a person

2786
02:15:19,400 --> 02:15:22,480
Speaker 2: that would just never do that, Like if even if

2787
02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:24,520
Speaker 2: I disagree with somebody, Like let's say I listened to

2788
02:15:24,600 --> 02:15:27,160
Speaker 2: a podcast and I thought they were wrong about something

2789
02:15:27,160 --> 02:15:29,120
Speaker 2: they said about Black Lives matter or something they said

2790
02:15:29,120 --> 02:15:32,040
Speaker 2: about black people and police, in my mind, I would

2791
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:35,640
Speaker 2: never be like, I'm gonna send them twenty police brutality videos.

2792
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:37,160
Speaker 3: They need to see.

2793
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:39,880
Speaker 2: This and I and for the record, I don't know

2794
02:15:39,880 --> 02:15:41,600
Speaker 2: what I would have said to make people feel like

2795
02:15:41,640 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 2: I need to see that a bunch of like anyway,

2796
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:48,240
Speaker 2: the point being like, I feel like the Internet is

2797
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:51,960
Speaker 2: doing something to us, and we lost something even if

2798
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:54,640
Speaker 2: we're not actively.

2799
02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:55,840
Speaker 3: Participating in the discussions.

2800
02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 2: The fact that we're seeing so much of the conflict

2801
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:01,480
Speaker 2: and the discussions and the slam and let me cherry

2802
02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:03,640
Speaker 2: pick this thing and cherry pick that thing and put

2803
02:16:03,720 --> 02:16:06,879
Speaker 2: together this. This is my argument. I think it's affecting

2804
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 2: the discourse that we're having period. I appreciate your point

2805
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:12,520
Speaker 2: of view, and it really did help me see better

2806
02:16:12,600 --> 02:16:14,400
Speaker 2: why some of the discussions I've seen are going the

2807
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:16,520
Speaker 2: way they are. I also agree with you that America

2808
02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:17,960
Speaker 2: is not a good country, and I've known that for

2809
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 2: most of my adult life. We are practically controlled by

2810
02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 2: America's quest for world domination and selective recognition of international

2811
02:16:24,120 --> 02:16:26,360
Speaker 2: human rights law. In spite of all this, though, I'm

2812
02:16:26,360 --> 02:16:28,680
Speaker 2: an eternal optimist, so I guess it never really occurred

2813
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:30,240
Speaker 2: to me that you would feel almost the same way

2814
02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:33,320
Speaker 2: about the US as I feel about my country, Nigeria.

2815
02:16:33,400 --> 02:16:35,600
Speaker 2: My optimism is really all I have left, and I

2816
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:38,520
Speaker 2: think that's probably why I keep doing hoping for a

2817
02:16:38,560 --> 02:16:41,800
Speaker 2: swift turnaround and at least one of the many man

2818
02:16:41,920 --> 02:16:47,280
Speaker 2: made catachphs going on now. Yeah, I feel you, because

2819
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:51,160
Speaker 2: obviously the urgency would save lives. Yes, so I'm not

2820
02:16:51,240 --> 02:16:55,680
Speaker 2: knocking that. But I guess maybe I'm not cynical or pessimistic.

2821
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:57,520
Speaker 3: I don't view any of these.

2822
02:16:57,440 --> 02:17:00,960
Speaker 2: Struggles as oh, we'll get a quick resolution, because they're

2823
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:04,200
Speaker 2: not quick into making. It's like it's like me being like,

2824
02:17:04,600 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna eat McDonald's today, then I should. Then

2825
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:10,959
Speaker 2: I will have lost the weight. And you're like, no,

2826
02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:13,840
Speaker 2: I made a lot of little decisions that led to

2827
02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:16,840
Speaker 2: me being the way I am. I would have to

2828
02:17:16,840 --> 02:17:21,040
Speaker 2: make a lot of those prolonged decisions the other way

2829
02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:25,160
Speaker 2: normally to balance that out. And I think, you know,

2830
02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:28,600
Speaker 2: we are constantly in our politics looking for the fad

2831
02:17:28,720 --> 02:17:33,880
Speaker 2: diet of politics to resolve conflicts that go on forever.

2832
02:17:34,040 --> 02:17:36,440
Speaker 3: You know, it's like decade centuries, right.

2833
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we can solve racism with this new law,

2834
02:17:38,959 --> 02:17:42,560
Speaker 2: and I'm like, it'll never solve it because it ain't.

2835
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:46,000
Speaker 2: We didn't make racism with one law, and it'll be

2836
02:17:46,120 --> 02:17:47,440
Speaker 2: undone with one law, right.

2837
02:17:48,160 --> 02:17:48,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

2838
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:50,000
Speaker 2: The only thing I have to say to correct from

2839
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:52,119
Speaker 2: this episode is that I personally don't engage in online

2840
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:54,760
Speaker 2: debates about politics. I do a lot of reading and observing,

2841
02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:56,280
Speaker 2: but I don't go back and forth with people because

2842
02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:58,520
Speaker 2: I learned from you, the guys, you guys at social

2843
02:17:58,560 --> 02:18:00,600
Speaker 2: media is not the place for that. Well, I'm sorry

2844
02:18:00,640 --> 02:18:03,440
Speaker 2: if we implied that, and I apologized, I did.

2845
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:04,280
Speaker 3: I tried.

2846
02:18:04,320 --> 02:18:06,000
Speaker 2: That's One of the reason I actually hit you up

2847
02:18:06,120 --> 02:18:08,640
Speaker 2: to clarify stuff is because I didn't want to do

2848
02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:11,440
Speaker 2: a whole lot of projecting onto you and your email

2849
02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:16,080
Speaker 2: about like this must be your position on this. And

2850
02:18:16,320 --> 02:18:18,960
Speaker 2: I apologize if that's what happened on that point, because

2851
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:23,040
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm trying my best to not personalize

2852
02:18:23,040 --> 02:18:25,480
Speaker 2: any of this shit, because I just think it's the

2853
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:29,480
Speaker 2: conversation we wanted to have, and as passionate as it was, it.

2854
02:18:29,440 --> 02:18:31,000
Speaker 3: Was really not really about you.

2855
02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:33,880
Speaker 2: It was more I took the opportunity to be like,

2856
02:18:33,959 --> 02:18:37,039
Speaker 2: let's just talk about voting and how we feel about

2857
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:41,480
Speaker 2: it right now, period, and you your email was a

2858
02:18:41,480 --> 02:18:43,440
Speaker 2: great jumping off point, and it's something I've been thinking

2859
02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:46,400
Speaker 2: about already. Right, I'll go back to catching up on

2860
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:47,879
Speaker 2: a podcast now, and I look forward to more of

2861
02:18:47,879 --> 02:18:50,280
Speaker 2: your insightful discussions before I leave. I would like to

2862
02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:52,200
Speaker 2: say that the banter is excellent and it makes me

2863
02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:54,800
Speaker 2: feel even more like I'm catching up with a distant cousins.

2864
02:18:55,000 --> 02:18:56,720
Speaker 2: I hope you keep doing it for as long as

2865
02:18:56,720 --> 02:18:58,879
Speaker 2: you enjoy it. And I really love when Karen takes

2866
02:18:58,959 --> 02:19:01,960
Speaker 2: us on an unexpectable Larry's journey. Have a blessed weekend

2867
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:07,119
Speaker 2: and thanks again. Yeah, and I hope you are still

2868
02:19:07,560 --> 02:19:09,720
Speaker 2: do your badter Karen, because I don't care if it's

2869
02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:15,880
Speaker 2: about cleaning or whatever. It's yeah, it's fine, it's fine,

2870
02:19:15,959 --> 02:19:18,320
Speaker 2: like even if part of the joke is that is

2871
02:19:18,600 --> 02:19:22,000
Speaker 2: just mun dang shit, don't don't stop. I like that

2872
02:19:22,080 --> 02:19:25,320
Speaker 2: you are contributing to the show off top like that

2873
02:19:25,879 --> 02:19:28,040
Speaker 2: because I know I'm the one that finds the articles

2874
02:19:28,040 --> 02:19:31,039
Speaker 2: and stuff. So you don't always have a thing to

2875
02:19:31,160 --> 02:19:34,760
Speaker 2: say about an article, or you don't always.

2876
02:19:34,320 --> 02:19:36,840
Speaker 3: You know, have like you might not. It's news to you,

2877
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:38,120
Speaker 3: so you're still taking it in.

2878
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:42,280
Speaker 2: But yes, yeah, so just don't stop because I noticed

2879
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:43,840
Speaker 2: the last couple of times you didn't have any and

2880
02:19:43,879 --> 02:19:46,200
Speaker 2: I don't want you to feel like, you know, if

2881
02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:48,720
Speaker 2: I don't have like some jokes, then I can't do this.

2882
02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:52,440
Speaker 3: Right, We'll make it a joke, okay. PS.

2883
02:19:52,480 --> 02:19:54,360
Speaker 2: If you ever looked for looking for something to read

2884
02:19:54,400 --> 02:19:57,400
Speaker 2: on the Palestinian perspective, may I recommend one one hundred

2885
02:19:57,440 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 2: years War on Palestine by Rashid I Khaldi and I

2886
02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:06,320
Speaker 2: think he may have been interviewed on one of the

2887
02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:11,240
Speaker 2: podcasts I listened to two Light in Guyza writings Born Afar,

2888
02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:17,920
Speaker 2: edited by Jahad abdu Salem and Jennifer Being and Michael

2889
02:20:17,920 --> 02:20:21,000
Speaker 2: Merriman LOTSI I think is how you said thank you,

2890
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:25,800
Speaker 2: Alegra says episode twenty eight ten six one six day,

2891
02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:28,879
Speaker 2: Hello you two. It's been a long time since I've

2892
02:20:28,879 --> 02:20:30,640
Speaker 2: written in, but I have a few things to touch

2893
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:32,320
Speaker 2: on and did not want to have three to five

2894
02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:35,480
Speaker 2: leaf three to five voicemails, so I decided to Billy

2895
02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:36,680
Speaker 2: Roding to read my thoughts.

2896
02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:38,920
Speaker 3: All care to keep it coot cute one.

2897
02:20:39,320 --> 02:20:41,840
Speaker 2: In the last feedback episode, many folks felt attached to

2898
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:42,800
Speaker 2: to talk about lonliness.

2899
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:44,920
Speaker 3: YouTube had a couple of weeks ago. I'm one of them.

2900
02:20:45,240 --> 02:20:47,360
Speaker 2: I too, am an introvert, but one of my hyper

2901
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:49,440
Speaker 2: social one who is hyper social when I want to be,

2902
02:20:49,879 --> 02:20:53,120
Speaker 2: and then I have the subsequent recharge time alone. Being

2903
02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:57,480
Speaker 2: gregarious and empathetic is super draining. Anyway, during COVID lockdown,

2904
02:20:57,520 --> 02:20:59,279
Speaker 2: I had to find some joy in the dire situation.

2905
02:20:59,400 --> 02:21:00,800
Speaker 3: I found it.

2906
02:21:00,920 --> 02:21:03,080
Speaker 2: I found it in not having tons of people out

2907
02:21:03,400 --> 02:21:06,400
Speaker 2: and having to navigate those interactions. Even though I have

2908
02:21:07,320 --> 02:21:09,800
Speaker 2: had some calm with that, it was still riddle with

2909
02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:12,280
Speaker 2: the fear of catching COVID and just how empty and

2910
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:15,360
Speaker 2: desolate the world felt. I was discussing this with my partner,

2911
02:21:15,360 --> 02:21:17,120
Speaker 2: and he is the type who would do better in

2912
02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:19,760
Speaker 2: the office in person, though he is introverted in the

2913
02:21:19,760 --> 02:21:21,960
Speaker 2: same way I am, and I find more peace and

2914
02:21:22,040 --> 02:21:24,640
Speaker 2: working from home. Unfortunately, we are still feeling the effects

2915
02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:26,600
Speaker 2: of the trauma of COVID lockdown, and since we do

2916
02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:28,960
Speaker 2: not know how to talk as a collective and a

2917
02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:31,119
Speaker 2: healthy way about it, were all sort of clunking through

2918
02:21:31,400 --> 02:21:34,160
Speaker 2: and trying to get a sense of wholeness and community.

2919
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:35,080
Speaker 3: Again. I agreed.

2920
02:21:35,800 --> 02:21:38,720
Speaker 2: Apia and her journey to find a black friend is cute,

2921
02:21:38,760 --> 02:21:41,480
Speaker 2: but You're right, Rod is a very thing line. I

2922
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:43,680
Speaker 2: love that you continue to remind her that perhaps her

2923
02:21:43,720 --> 02:21:47,119
Speaker 2: advantage is that racism hits ever so slightly different other countries.

2924
02:21:47,160 --> 02:21:50,160
Speaker 2: So I keep my fingers crossed and she continues to

2925
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:53,240
Speaker 2: be smart and logical. Yeah, we're all rooting for it,

2926
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah we are. You know, it's a little scary because

2927
02:21:55,800 --> 02:21:57,800
Speaker 2: I'm telling you you playing with a black audience.

2928
02:21:57,800 --> 02:22:00,800
Speaker 7: It's a roller coaster ride. Apia, you like one fucking

2929
02:22:00,959 --> 02:22:01,760
Speaker 7: like random.

2930
02:22:01,959 --> 02:22:04,640
Speaker 2: I touched her head to day and then it's gonna

2931
02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:08,000
Speaker 2: be like, man, the whole audience turned and then Opia

2932
02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:10,400
Speaker 2: is one of these overthinking people that's always trying to, like,

2933
02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:14,520
Speaker 2: you know, resolve the conflict within. And next thing you

2934
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:18,600
Speaker 2: know is gonna be her writing sixty seventy comments. It's

2935
02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:21,760
Speaker 2: gonna be like obvious, no amount of comments. What was

2936
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:25,120
Speaker 2: all this so I'll be gonna have us.

2937
02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:27,080
Speaker 3: We was rooting for you. It was all rooting for you.

2938
02:22:27,200 --> 02:22:30,119
Speaker 3: How damn you. I'm just trying. I'm just trying to help.

2939
02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:31,400
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to help.

2940
02:22:31,440 --> 02:22:34,200
Speaker 2: He is rooting for you, Ipia three. I feel so

2941
02:22:34,320 --> 02:22:37,360
Speaker 2: special when I hear our girl, Allegra. It makes me

2942
02:22:37,400 --> 02:22:40,680
Speaker 2: miss podcasting even more. Also makes me appreciate how grecious

2943
02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:43,160
Speaker 2: you to our and guests appearing on podcasts, no matter

2944
02:22:43,160 --> 02:22:44,120
Speaker 2: how big or small they are.

2945
02:22:44,280 --> 02:22:46,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we went on their podcast.

2946
02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:50,640
Speaker 2: And we talked about music and it was fun. Finally,

2947
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:53,160
Speaker 2: here's my address for a melan for a Christmas card.

2948
02:22:53,560 --> 02:22:55,800
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna read her address out loud to everybody,

2949
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:58,520
Speaker 2: just kidding, caring, obviously, I'm just kidding.

2950
02:22:58,600 --> 02:23:01,920
Speaker 3: Good grief. Really you fell for that, John Right will

2951
02:23:01,959 --> 02:23:05,680
Speaker 3: always be a sucker for that. No, John Wright saying

2952
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:08,200
Speaker 3: good morning riding Karen, one of.

2953
02:23:08,240 --> 02:23:10,560
Speaker 2: The things that I think many people, especially younger people

2954
02:23:10,600 --> 02:23:12,760
Speaker 2: and people in other countries, don't really appreciate, is just

2955
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:14,760
Speaker 2: how much we have lost in America and the result

2956
02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:17,720
Speaker 2: of some very close elections. The two thousand election came

2957
02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:20,160
Speaker 2: down to only five hundred out of twelve million votes

2958
02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:20,680
Speaker 2: in Florida.

2959
02:23:21,520 --> 02:23:23,440
Speaker 3: This gave us the clown George W.

2960
02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:25,720
Speaker 2: Bush, the president who started the wars in Iraq and

2961
02:23:25,760 --> 02:23:29,640
Speaker 2: Afghanians stand passed the Patriot Act, expanding domestic surveillance in

2962
02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:30,800
Speaker 2: the road in privacy right.

2963
02:23:30,920 --> 02:23:33,000
Speaker 7: Yes, Kate gave us the TSA.

2964
02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:36,720
Speaker 2: Started the torture of enemy combatants, fueled rampant Islamophobia. It

2965
02:23:36,760 --> 02:23:39,920
Speaker 2: was the first open Christian nationalist we had since Reagan.

2966
02:23:40,280 --> 02:23:44,959
Speaker 2: It put John Robertson Semildo into the Supreme Court, resulting

2967
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:48,480
Speaker 2: eventually in the gutting of the Voting Rights Act. Citizens United,

2968
02:23:48,560 --> 02:23:51,360
Speaker 2: the hell of decision, making gun restrictions all but impossible.

2969
02:23:51,680 --> 02:23:54,200
Speaker 2: Literal centuries of progress down to drain because of five

2970
02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:56,959
Speaker 2: hundred plus votes in one state. Two thousand and four

2971
02:23:57,040 --> 02:23:59,480
Speaker 2: came down to just one state again, this time Ohio

2972
02:23:59,560 --> 02:24:02,120
Speaker 2: this time, and the margin was eighteen one hundred and

2973
02:24:02,120 --> 02:24:04,600
Speaker 2: eighteen thousand votes. But that is still out of six

2974
02:24:04,680 --> 02:24:07,760
Speaker 2: million Ohio voters, only a tiny two percent vargin in

2975
02:24:07,800 --> 02:24:10,640
Speaker 2: one state. Obama wins huge in two thousand and eight,

2976
02:24:10,680 --> 02:24:13,160
Speaker 2: but honestly, he seemed cool enough even for white people.

2977
02:24:12,920 --> 02:24:13,480
Speaker 3: To vote for him.

2978
02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:16,400
Speaker 2: In twenty twelve, however, his re election margin comes down

2979
02:24:16,440 --> 02:24:19,800
Speaker 2: to only two states and DC, another pretty tight election

2980
02:24:19,879 --> 02:24:23,520
Speaker 2: because of the antiquated electoral system we have, which gives

2981
02:24:23,600 --> 02:24:27,760
Speaker 2: outside power to low population, mostly white states. Twenty sixteen

2982
02:24:27,840 --> 02:24:30,360
Speaker 2: comes down to only seventy thousand votes in just three

2983
02:24:30,400 --> 02:24:32,400
Speaker 2: counties to give the election to Trump.

2984
02:24:32,520 --> 02:24:35,560
Speaker 3: Seventy k out of fourteen million votes in those crucial states.

2985
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:39,400
Speaker 2: Trump's election gives US Muslim travel band, trans military band,

2986
02:24:39,400 --> 02:24:42,200
Speaker 2: babies in cages, the largest tax cut for the wealthy,

2987
02:24:42,200 --> 02:24:44,600
Speaker 2: and history even worse. He gets three justices on the

2988
02:24:44,600 --> 02:24:47,320
Speaker 2: Supreme Court who stripped women of their right to abortion,

2989
02:24:47,480 --> 02:24:51,000
Speaker 2: kill a firmative action, overturn vaccine requirements, and effectively killed

2990
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:54,400
Speaker 2: biden Student loone relief plan. Biden wins in twenty twenty again,

2991
02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:56,160
Speaker 2: but it's only by raisor thin margins.

2992
02:24:56,200 --> 02:24:57,480
Speaker 3: At the crucial state level.

2993
02:24:57,680 --> 02:25:01,080
Speaker 2: He wins Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona, but only by forty

2994
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:03,879
Speaker 2: two k votes out of eleven point six million votes

2995
02:25:03,879 --> 02:25:04,520
Speaker 2: in those states.

2996
02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:05,879
Speaker 3: Razor fucking fin.

2997
02:25:06,440 --> 02:25:10,279
Speaker 2: We've lost voting rights, gun restractions, campaign finance laws, abortion

2998
02:25:10,400 --> 02:25:12,640
Speaker 2: is so many other things because the Scotus decision determined

2999
02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:16,640
Speaker 2: by the w and Trump appointed justices, all because of

3000
02:25:16,680 --> 02:25:19,520
Speaker 2: what means the eighty k vote deficit in twenty twenty

3001
02:25:19,720 --> 02:25:23,240
Speaker 2: and twenty sixteen elections combined, five of the six current

3002
02:25:23,280 --> 02:25:25,720
Speaker 2: right wing assholes on the Supreme Court are there because

3003
02:25:25,720 --> 02:25:30,000
Speaker 2: of those two elections, eighty thousand votes, five lifetime appointments

3004
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:32,600
Speaker 2: on the highest court in the land. Right, we also

3005
02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:35,160
Speaker 2: now have an assholes shit show in the House. We

3006
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:37,840
Speaker 2: can kiss COVID funding goodbye in any money for Ukraine

3007
02:25:37,840 --> 02:25:40,640
Speaker 2: to GOP will likely try to impeach Biden and continue

3008
02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:42,720
Speaker 2: to try to throw out to January six investigations, all

3009
02:25:42,760 --> 02:25:44,879
Speaker 2: because of voters in a handful of districts in California

3010
02:25:44,879 --> 02:25:47,120
Speaker 2: and New York decided not to even bother voting in

3011
02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:51,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Yeah, I just want to say, also

3012
02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:55,280
Speaker 2: with this, the way we talk about it, or the

3013
02:25:55,320 --> 02:25:57,600
Speaker 2: way it's talked about online, it's always like the Biding

3014
02:25:57,680 --> 02:26:01,960
Speaker 2: administration stop COVID funding. It's like, that's not what happened, right.

3015
02:26:02,600 --> 02:26:05,880
Speaker 2: I need you to be accurate because this is the

3016
02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:10,240
Speaker 2: bigger thing for me. I felt this for so fucking long.

3017
02:26:11,400 --> 02:26:14,720
Speaker 2: The entire exercise of how we vote and why we

3018
02:26:14,800 --> 02:26:18,840
Speaker 2: have politicians, it is strictly an exercise in us.

3019
02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:23,040
Speaker 3: Not blaming our fellow citizens.

3020
02:26:22,959 --> 02:26:26,080
Speaker 2: For how fucked up shit is and saying this is

3021
02:26:26,200 --> 02:26:30,720
Speaker 2: actually what you want. Yes, this is on you, but no,

3022
02:26:30,760 --> 02:26:32,800
Speaker 2: we go it's the boddom and fault, it's the preser,

3023
02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:34,280
Speaker 2: it's this person's fault.

3024
02:26:34,680 --> 02:26:37,640
Speaker 3: No, you voted for these people or you refuse to

3025
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:38,720
Speaker 3: not vote for them.

3026
02:26:38,800 --> 02:26:42,120
Speaker 2: And so now this is where we're at, and it's

3027
02:26:42,200 --> 02:26:43,240
Speaker 2: really your fault.

3028
02:26:43,320 --> 02:26:46,720
Speaker 3: Your fellow citizen is not on your side. They're not.

3029
02:26:46,840 --> 02:26:51,119
Speaker 2: They're fucking dumb, they're racist, they're biggoted, they're petty, they're

3030
02:26:51,160 --> 02:26:54,480
Speaker 2: all these things. But we're able to coexist by having

3031
02:26:54,480 --> 02:26:58,320
Speaker 2: these avatars that we blame for everything. So it's it's

3032
02:26:58,400 --> 02:27:00,760
Speaker 2: Joe Biden's old and that's the p's like that. The

3033
02:27:00,760 --> 02:27:03,120
Speaker 2: problem not even fucking old. The problem is half the

3034
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:06,800
Speaker 2: fucking country does want women not to have the right

3035
02:27:06,879 --> 02:27:09,720
Speaker 2: to have an abortion. That's the problem. You go to

3036
02:27:09,800 --> 02:27:12,480
Speaker 2: work with the problem, you go to church with the problem.

3037
02:27:12,680 --> 02:27:15,039
Speaker 2: The problem live across the street from you, across the

3038
02:27:15,080 --> 02:27:17,480
Speaker 2: hall from you. The problem is on the bus with you.

3039
02:27:17,800 --> 02:27:22,320
Speaker 2: The problem is at DW. Bond pineapple cake candles, which

3040
02:27:22,320 --> 02:27:23,840
Speaker 2: are back in stock on the website.

3041
02:27:23,879 --> 02:27:24,640
Speaker 3: I just bought four.

3042
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:28,800
Speaker 2: The problem is right the fuck there, and we but

3043
02:27:29,480 --> 02:27:32,120
Speaker 2: saying this this other shit makes us feel better.

3044
02:27:32,480 --> 02:27:34,879
Speaker 3: But that's why we have to vote.

3045
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:37,320
Speaker 2: In my opinion, that's why we have to use the

3046
02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:40,680
Speaker 2: tool we've gotten to be like, because they're not gonna stop.

3047
02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:43,840
Speaker 2: They're not gonna stop, and they don't get discouraged, and

3048
02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:45,600
Speaker 2: they don't give up, and they don't quit, and they

3049
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:48,520
Speaker 2: don't go home and go it'll get better from our side.

3050
02:27:48,720 --> 02:27:50,879
Speaker 3: They just stay on our ass.

3051
02:27:50,920 --> 02:27:53,640
Speaker 2: And it's just we can't stop running in my opinion,

3052
02:27:54,200 --> 02:27:56,320
Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna stop voting.

3053
02:27:57,000 --> 02:28:04,039
Speaker 7: Right, And I agreed people use politicians as avatar to

3054
02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:11,960
Speaker 7: deflect from their responsibility, you know, And I will say it.

3055
02:28:12,120 --> 02:28:17,400
Speaker 7: I will forever say this is and this is how

3056
02:28:17,440 --> 02:28:20,560
Speaker 7: I truly feel. If you don't participate in the system

3057
02:28:20,680 --> 02:28:23,840
Speaker 7: and things happen, happen to roll a certain way that

3058
02:28:23,879 --> 02:28:26,199
Speaker 7: you don't like, I don't give a fuck about your opinion.

3059
02:28:26,600 --> 02:28:27,840
Speaker 3: That's just me. I just don't care.

3060
02:28:28,120 --> 02:28:30,840
Speaker 7: You opted not to participate in the system. Why should

3061
02:28:30,879 --> 02:28:33,760
Speaker 7: I care about how you feel? You can listen to me.

3062
02:28:33,920 --> 02:28:36,400
Speaker 7: I can fuss, I can complain because I go, I

3063
02:28:36,480 --> 02:28:40,040
Speaker 7: participate in this. I participated in the system. The system

3064
02:28:40,080 --> 02:28:43,440
Speaker 7: is still fucked up. But I'm gonna continue to participate

3065
02:28:43,440 --> 02:28:46,000
Speaker 7: in the system. So I can be angry, and I

3066
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:49,280
Speaker 7: can be pissed, and I can demand more, and I

3067
02:28:48,959 --> 02:28:52,200
Speaker 7: can hold people accountable. But if you don't participate in

3068
02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:54,280
Speaker 7: the system, what are you complaining about? Because when you

3069
02:28:54,280 --> 02:28:56,160
Speaker 7: don't participate in the system, you know what you're saying.

3070
02:28:56,720 --> 02:29:00,360
Speaker 7: Whatever happens happens, and I will happily live with the consequence.

3071
02:29:00,400 --> 02:29:03,440
Speaker 3: That's to me, that's what you're saying, or unhappily live

3072
02:29:03,480 --> 02:29:05,359
Speaker 3: with the consequences. But were living with them.

3073
02:29:05,400 --> 02:29:08,680
Speaker 7: Right, And I have to live with the repercussions and

3074
02:29:08,680 --> 02:29:11,879
Speaker 7: the consequences of you not participating in the system. So

3075
02:29:11,959 --> 02:29:14,879
Speaker 7: I have the right to look at your ass and say, bitch,

3076
02:29:15,040 --> 02:29:16,279
Speaker 7: you're the goddamn problem.

3077
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:17,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

3078
02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:19,200
Speaker 2: For those of us who play very close attention, it

3079
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:22,959
Speaker 2: really isn't complicated. A relative headful more dimn show up

3080
02:29:23,240 --> 02:29:24,879
Speaker 2: to vote. In two thousand and two thousand and four

3081
02:29:24,920 --> 02:29:27,320
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen would have made the difference between night and

3082
02:29:27,360 --> 02:29:30,000
Speaker 2: fucking day as far as progress is concerned. Yeah, And

3083
02:29:30,040 --> 02:29:31,680
Speaker 2: the other thing I want to add about that is

3084
02:29:31,720 --> 02:29:34,520
Speaker 2: what happens is day go is the politician's fault.

3085
02:29:34,680 --> 02:29:37,120
Speaker 3: They didn't make me feel inspired enough.

3086
02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:40,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you don't feel inspired enough by the

3087
02:29:40,400 --> 02:29:44,440
Speaker 2: consequences we're living through of not taking an active role

3088
02:29:44,480 --> 02:29:45,320
Speaker 2: in our democracy.

3089
02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:48,879
Speaker 3: That's not an inspiration. What what do you need? What

3090
02:29:49,120 --> 02:29:50,280
Speaker 3: more do you fucking need?

3091
02:29:50,360 --> 02:29:54,640
Speaker 2: Because honestly, like every goal that you have is a

3092
02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:58,240
Speaker 2: goal that could be accomplished by having more democrats.

3093
02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:00,640
Speaker 3: It's never gonna be a compon driving less. I agree.

3094
02:30:00,879 --> 02:30:04,800
Speaker 2: And if your thing is like, well, they don't always

3095
02:30:04,840 --> 02:30:06,640
Speaker 2: go as far left as I would like them to.

3096
02:30:07,360 --> 02:30:09,320
Speaker 2: One of the ways to do to make them go

3097
02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:12,000
Speaker 2: more left is to show them that country demands more

3098
02:30:12,080 --> 02:30:15,480
Speaker 2: left by voting. If we when we vote as as

3099
02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:18,760
Speaker 2: a unit to say, hey, this is a referendum on

3100
02:30:18,920 --> 02:30:22,760
Speaker 2: these topics, we typically get things closer to what we

3101
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:26,320
Speaker 2: want rather than this when we don't vote, it'll work out.

3102
02:30:26,879 --> 02:30:30,360
Speaker 2: In America, these elections are unbelievably tight, and that's not

3103
02:30:30,360 --> 02:30:31,599
Speaker 2: gonna change anytime.

3104
02:30:31,320 --> 02:30:32,440
Speaker 3: Soon with Trump.

3105
02:30:32,440 --> 02:30:34,800
Speaker 2: Oh that's another thing too, Like when Zenzi Wright saying

3106
02:30:34,879 --> 02:30:37,520
Speaker 2: about you know, like I'm in Nigeria blah blahlah, and

3107
02:30:37,600 --> 02:30:39,440
Speaker 2: like I didn't know you looked at America this way.

3108
02:30:39,560 --> 02:30:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm black in America. I only can look at it

3109
02:30:41,959 --> 02:30:47,920
Speaker 2: this way. Okay, these motherfuckers, this the the the propaganda

3110
02:30:47,959 --> 02:30:51,120
Speaker 2: that America sends out is not what America is, not

3111
02:30:51,240 --> 02:30:54,200
Speaker 2: the Land of the Free, it is not. It's not

3112
02:30:54,320 --> 02:30:58,320
Speaker 2: any of those things. It is an imperialistic organization. It's

3113
02:30:58,320 --> 02:31:02,680
Speaker 2: a capitalistic construct. It is it is founded on slavery

3114
02:31:02,680 --> 02:31:06,480
Speaker 2: and genocide. It is every thing we say is a lot.

3115
02:31:07,240 --> 02:31:10,039
Speaker 2: So I don't since I don't believe in it, The

3116
02:31:10,120 --> 02:31:12,039
Speaker 2: most so reminded thing I can do is try to

3117
02:31:12,080 --> 02:31:13,400
Speaker 2: mitigate it or change it.

3118
02:31:13,920 --> 02:31:15,920
Speaker 3: But I don't think.

3119
02:31:16,480 --> 02:31:18,400
Speaker 2: Maybe it would feel that way to you, but it

3120
02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:20,800
Speaker 2: would not. I would not feel like a hero hopping

3121
02:31:20,800 --> 02:31:23,280
Speaker 2: on this podcast telling you I didn't vote, so it

3122
02:31:23,320 --> 02:31:26,199
Speaker 2: ain't my problem, it ain't my fault. I didn't vote

3123
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:30,440
Speaker 2: for this. That doesn't feel like like I said, I

3124
02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:33,480
Speaker 2: think I've said it enough. Just it's just watching a

3125
02:31:33,560 --> 02:31:36,240
Speaker 2: fucking car crash hit somebody and being like I didn't

3126
02:31:36,240 --> 02:31:37,800
Speaker 2: try to push you out the way, So I don't

3127
02:31:37,800 --> 02:31:39,600
Speaker 2: know why you're looking at me like, well, you let

3128
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:40,760
Speaker 2: me get by a card.

3129
02:31:40,800 --> 02:31:44,040
Speaker 7: Right, And also not to kind of get off topic,

3130
02:31:44,040 --> 02:31:46,160
Speaker 7: but I think for me, I can't speak for anybody else.

3131
02:31:47,400 --> 02:31:48,080
Speaker 3: A lot of the.

3132
02:31:49,040 --> 02:31:54,000
Speaker 7: Optimism that I had and a lot of the the

3133
02:31:54,160 --> 02:32:00,160
Speaker 7: feelings that I had about this country. After we we

3134
02:32:00,240 --> 02:32:03,040
Speaker 7: have the greatest president of my lifetime and truth for

3135
02:32:03,080 --> 02:32:06,360
Speaker 7: the greatest president in all time in Barack Obama, and

3136
02:32:06,400 --> 02:32:08,640
Speaker 7: people turn around and they voted.

3137
02:32:08,320 --> 02:32:09,960
Speaker 3: This shit show Trump in office.

3138
02:32:10,920 --> 02:32:14,440
Speaker 7: All my optimism broke for that, like like like the

3139
02:32:14,480 --> 02:32:17,160
Speaker 7: person like all that. It broke for me, it literally

3140
02:32:17,160 --> 02:32:22,080
Speaker 7: broke because the reality of things set in the reality

3141
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:26,160
Speaker 7: of how my fellow citizens and how people around me feel,

3142
02:32:27,080 --> 02:32:30,160
Speaker 7: you know. And I was very angry and upset and

3143
02:32:30,280 --> 02:32:32,920
Speaker 7: bitter for a very very long time. And I'm, you know,

3144
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:35,600
Speaker 7: within the past few years, just recently kind of getting

3145
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:38,360
Speaker 7: to a place where the anger is in still as

3146
02:32:38,480 --> 02:32:42,160
Speaker 7: intense as it was. So for me, I don't have

3147
02:32:42,240 --> 02:32:45,640
Speaker 7: that optimism. My optimism and my hope comes with changing

3148
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:49,600
Speaker 7: the system itself, not hoping and praying that my fellow

3149
02:32:49,600 --> 02:32:52,240
Speaker 7: citizen will some way find the light within themselves to

3150
02:32:52,280 --> 02:32:55,039
Speaker 7: give a fuck about their federal citizens here in this country.

3151
02:32:55,240 --> 02:32:57,760
Speaker 7: Shit doesn't change without laws. And then now only do

3152
02:32:57,800 --> 02:32:59,320
Speaker 7: you have to have laws, you have to have people

3153
02:32:59,320 --> 02:33:01,160
Speaker 7: in place that with a course the fucking laws, because

3154
02:33:01,160 --> 02:33:03,160
Speaker 7: what's the point of the lows where people say, fuck

3155
02:33:03,200 --> 02:33:05,600
Speaker 7: them laws and then nobody can come in and fucking

3156
02:33:05,680 --> 02:33:07,120
Speaker 7: make them do the laws.

3157
02:33:07,640 --> 02:33:10,560
Speaker 2: Like, I just don't think people understand just because, like

3158
02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:14,400
Speaker 2: some popular opinion poll says, you know, sixty percent of

3159
02:33:14,440 --> 02:33:18,640
Speaker 2: people say we should legalize marijuana. If sixty percent of

3160
02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:21,480
Speaker 2: people say that, but only twenty percent of that sixty

3161
02:33:21,520 --> 02:33:22,640
Speaker 2: percent vote.

3162
02:33:22,440 --> 02:33:24,640
Speaker 3: Right, then that means there's more of them than us.

3163
02:33:24,680 --> 02:33:26,840
Speaker 2: And I don't think enough people have considered there might

3164
02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:30,400
Speaker 2: be more people who are conservative and biggoty in all

3165
02:33:30,400 --> 02:33:32,879
Speaker 2: those things you scared of. There might be more of

3166
02:33:32,879 --> 02:33:35,000
Speaker 2: them than us, and definitely more of them than us

3167
02:33:35,000 --> 02:33:35,800
Speaker 2: that are willing to.

3168
02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:39,200
Speaker 3: Like pull that lever and just push closer to what

3169
02:33:39,240 --> 02:33:39,720
Speaker 3: they want.

3170
02:33:40,440 --> 02:33:42,640
Speaker 2: With Trump and the GOLP posting an existential threat to

3171
02:33:42,640 --> 02:33:44,520
Speaker 2: everything good in America, we need every day and vote

3172
02:33:44,520 --> 02:33:44,880
Speaker 2: we can get.

3173
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:45,520
Speaker 3: It's that simple.

3174
02:33:45,520 --> 02:33:47,920
Speaker 2: When people thread not to vote, it's like they're gaslight

3175
02:33:47,920 --> 02:33:49,840
Speaker 2: and the rest of us in the crulest way possible. Yeah,

3176
02:33:49,879 --> 02:33:52,039
Speaker 2: especially when they say they're not gonna vote because they're

3177
02:33:52,120 --> 02:33:54,800
Speaker 2: more of a liberal person in you. It's like, nah, well,

3178
02:33:54,840 --> 02:33:57,120
Speaker 2: now you're just insulting me. I don't believe that, right.

3179
02:33:57,280 --> 02:33:59,400
Speaker 2: Staying home on election day doesn't get you shit. If

3180
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:02,360
Speaker 2: you're allow it only allows fastest to win period full stot.

3181
02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:05,160
Speaker 2: We've seen it with our own eyes multiple times in

3182
02:34:05,240 --> 02:34:07,120
Speaker 2: recent memory. This is why some of us get really

3183
02:34:07,120 --> 02:34:09,199
Speaker 2: pissed to even in suggesting that not voting is somehow

3184
02:34:09,280 --> 02:34:09,880
Speaker 2: righteous act.

3185
02:34:09,879 --> 02:34:10,240
Speaker 3: It's not.

3186
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:13,800
Speaker 2: It's just potentially throwing black people, women, transgend to people, Muslims, etc.

3187
02:34:14,080 --> 02:34:17,040
Speaker 3: Under the bus for some performative nonsense. Right.

3188
02:34:17,240 --> 02:34:19,480
Speaker 2: I appreciate the respectful way you treated that email, no

3189
02:34:19,560 --> 02:34:20,720
Speaker 2: shade of the person submitted it.

3190
02:34:20,760 --> 02:34:22,760
Speaker 3: Honestly, I get where they're coming from, I really do.

3191
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:24,840
Speaker 2: But I wanted to chime in because I think people

3192
02:34:24,840 --> 02:34:26,760
Speaker 2: often overlook just how close to Lexas that have been

3193
02:34:26,760 --> 02:34:29,439
Speaker 2: for the past twenty three years and have heartbreaking, demoralizing

3194
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:34,360
Speaker 2: and PTSD inducing these losses have been. Yeah, and I yeah,

3195
02:34:34,600 --> 02:34:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad you appreciate that, because I don't want to

3196
02:34:37,160 --> 02:34:39,199
Speaker 2: do on a voting screen and yell at these people

3197
02:34:39,200 --> 02:34:40,400
Speaker 2: because I don't think it's helping.

3198
02:34:40,959 --> 02:34:41,680
Speaker 3: I really don't.

3199
02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:44,199
Speaker 2: And I think if you write in earnestly with a question,

3200
02:34:44,560 --> 02:34:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to hit you up earnestly with a

3201
02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:49,760
Speaker 2: response that's not about shading you or yelling at you

3202
02:34:49,879 --> 02:34:52,160
Speaker 2: or getting upset. Even as triggering as that shit is,

3203
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:55,240
Speaker 2: it is very triggering for me when people just talk

3204
02:34:55,280 --> 02:34:58,720
Speaker 2: about not voting in this casual way like yeah, and

3205
02:34:59,440 --> 02:35:00,680
Speaker 2: will be over either way.

3206
02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know who we is, but we

3207
02:35:03,160 --> 02:35:07,800
Speaker 3: won't no, like we're barely okay when we do vote.

3208
02:35:08,600 --> 02:35:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't know why you think we could keep fucking around,

3209
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:12,240
Speaker 2: but I guess you do.

3210
02:35:13,400 --> 02:35:16,240
Speaker 7: And the same people a lot of times, like you said,

3211
02:35:16,320 --> 02:35:17,960
Speaker 7: and we said this before, but the same people that

3212
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:21,920
Speaker 7: feel passionate about not voting. I feel passionate the other way. Yeah,

3213
02:35:22,240 --> 02:35:25,720
Speaker 7: like you say, my feelings for being passionate is complete.

3214
02:35:25,840 --> 02:35:29,000
Speaker 2: And where where we live it won't be okay, right.

3215
02:35:29,240 --> 02:35:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't know how to tell you this. Maybe where

3216
02:35:31,040 --> 02:35:32,800
Speaker 2: you live it will, Like I said, people live in

3217
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:37,320
Speaker 2: New York City, they've had essentially Democrats that are Republican mayors.

3218
02:35:37,840 --> 02:35:40,560
Speaker 2: My whole fucking life. No one likes them, but for

3219
02:35:40,600 --> 02:35:43,200
Speaker 2: the most part they seem to be okay. You know,

3220
02:35:43,320 --> 02:35:46,040
Speaker 2: even when they do, like stopping frisk that's not enough

3221
02:35:46,040 --> 02:35:49,039
Speaker 2: for people to be like, the next motherfucker is gonna

3222
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:50,000
Speaker 2: be liberal as fuck.

3223
02:35:50,120 --> 02:35:52,720
Speaker 3: Like even stick like that, people still go, I'm not

3224
02:35:52,879 --> 02:35:55,240
Speaker 3: not voting the primary. I don't know how. I don't

3225
02:35:55,240 --> 02:35:56,160
Speaker 3: know what they've been through.

3226
02:35:56,200 --> 02:35:57,920
Speaker 2: I can't speak for their city and the people that

3227
02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:01,320
Speaker 2: live there, but they've reached a differ conclusion about voting

3228
02:36:01,320 --> 02:36:01,840
Speaker 2: that I have.

3229
02:36:02,560 --> 02:36:04,080
Speaker 3: If I'm against the wire on some.

3230
02:36:04,040 --> 02:36:06,640
Speaker 2: Shit like that, if the difference between who's in charge

3231
02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:09,800
Speaker 2: is them slamming innocent black people up against the wall

3232
02:36:10,120 --> 02:36:15,440
Speaker 2: and frisking them and arresting motherfuckers for broken windows and Maryland,

3233
02:36:15,560 --> 02:36:18,840
Speaker 2: I would you wouldn't be able to tell you wouldn't

3234
02:36:18,840 --> 02:36:20,760
Speaker 2: be able to make me not want to vote you.

3235
02:36:20,920 --> 02:36:22,640
Speaker 3: There's nothing you'd be able to do to me.

3236
02:36:23,440 --> 02:36:26,120
Speaker 2: But you know, I'll listen to podcasts people from New

3237
02:36:26,200 --> 02:36:28,560
Speaker 2: York during that time period and after that time period

3238
02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:32,120
Speaker 2: that their relationship with voting is different than mine, and

3239
02:36:32,240 --> 02:36:36,199
Speaker 2: especially the national vote, but even locally in a city

3240
02:36:36,240 --> 02:36:39,680
Speaker 2: that people fucking Republicans think is the most liberal. They

3241
02:36:39,760 --> 02:36:42,840
Speaker 2: hate this city, the big East Coast. Well, that city's

3242
02:36:42,879 --> 02:36:45,000
Speaker 2: not that fucking liberal, you know it's not. So what

3243
02:36:45,040 --> 02:36:47,160
Speaker 2: are you even talking about? You know, you talk about

3244
02:36:47,200 --> 02:36:49,160
Speaker 2: like a Chicago where they try to shit on Chicago

3245
02:36:49,160 --> 02:36:49,480
Speaker 2: all the time.

3246
02:36:49,560 --> 02:36:51,920
Speaker 3: It's so liberal. Look what the liberals have got.

3247
02:36:52,360 --> 02:36:54,040
Speaker 2: Ask the black people that live there if they find

3248
02:36:54,080 --> 02:36:56,600
Speaker 2: it to be so liberal, correct, Ask them about all

3249
02:36:56,600 --> 02:36:59,039
Speaker 2: the fucking gun laws and restrictions that are passed that

3250
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:03,120
Speaker 2: could sound don't really sound like liberal shit necessarily locking

3251
02:37:03,200 --> 02:37:07,080
Speaker 2: up the black ops depart police department building and shit

3252
02:37:07,200 --> 02:37:10,960
Speaker 2: like it's not anyway, I'm ratting with so much loss

3253
02:37:11,400 --> 02:37:13,440
Speaker 2: because the tiny margin of voters for fuse to show

3254
02:37:13,480 --> 02:37:14,240
Speaker 2: up in election day.

3255
02:37:14,640 --> 02:37:17,360
Speaker 3: Here we are the same people threatening to do it again. Uh.

3256
02:37:17,440 --> 02:37:19,840
Speaker 2: On a completely unrelated note, Rod, now that you are

3257
02:37:19,840 --> 02:37:21,879
Speaker 2: a Stone and check out Lendy Cravis's first album, Let

3258
02:37:21,879 --> 02:37:25,240
Speaker 2: Love Rule Next Time You Are Good and Stone. It's

3259
02:37:25,280 --> 02:37:27,240
Speaker 2: really more of an old school sol R and B

3260
02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:30,120
Speaker 2: funk thing than rock, and one of the true masterpieces

3261
02:37:30,160 --> 02:37:32,560
Speaker 2: of the early nineties. Even as a non rock guy.

3262
02:37:32,640 --> 02:37:34,680
Speaker 2: I think you might dig it, all right, I put

3263
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:35,400
Speaker 2: it on my list.

3264
02:37:35,440 --> 02:37:38,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that. Throw on my headphones, hop on

3265
02:37:38,600 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 3: title and eat me some pieces of a brownie. We're

3266
02:37:42,320 --> 02:37:43,400
Speaker 3: gonna go to town, Buddy.

3267
02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:47,080
Speaker 2: The grooves and the baselines, both of which Kravits played themselves,

3268
02:37:47,080 --> 02:37:47,879
Speaker 2: are really tasty.

3269
02:37:48,320 --> 02:37:50,000
Speaker 3: I think the obvious next step for t J.

3270
02:37:50,080 --> 02:37:52,320
Speaker 2: Holmes and Amy Robot and their excess is for a

3271
02:37:52,360 --> 02:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Bravo to make them all live in the house together

3272
02:37:54,600 --> 02:37:57,640
Speaker 2: for a dating reality show chairs Stay safe, John, thank

3273
02:37:57,720 --> 02:38:01,360
Speaker 2: you man, you're right saying about Lindy, about Lenny Cravis

3274
02:38:01,720 --> 02:38:02,240
Speaker 2: and Mandy.

3275
02:38:04,280 --> 02:38:06,920
Speaker 3: Randy, Sorry, Randy.

3276
02:38:06,959 --> 02:38:12,000
Speaker 2: Katine's right in for Mandy's sometimes be having the hottest takes,

3277
02:38:13,520 --> 02:38:18,400
Speaker 2: and we don't often, we don't often agree. But and

3278
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:21,359
Speaker 2: then she never writes in to address the hot takee Nope,

3279
02:38:21,480 --> 02:38:24,800
Speaker 2: she just wats like six weeks and then writes another one.

3280
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:28,080
Speaker 3: So I'm clicking on this. I'm reading it with an

3281
02:38:28,120 --> 02:38:31,280
Speaker 3: open mind, but I'm a little scared. Mandy. I'm not

3282
02:38:31,280 --> 02:38:33,680
Speaker 3: gonna lie. I'll see you. It ain't show up. I'm like, damn, Mandy,

3283
02:38:33,720 --> 02:38:35,240
Speaker 3: do you even like us? Do you like our?

3284
02:38:35,280 --> 02:38:35,320
Speaker 7: Go?

3285
02:38:37,200 --> 02:38:40,520
Speaker 3: All right? Mandy says, they're right of Karen.

3286
02:38:40,680 --> 02:38:43,480
Speaker 2: I got to thinking, I got to think in the comments, Len,

3287
02:38:43,720 --> 02:38:45,800
Speaker 2: Lenny Cravis made about his relationship with black Minia and

3288
02:38:45,840 --> 02:38:48,520
Speaker 2: black award shows. But I hate to say this, he

3289
02:38:48,600 --> 02:38:50,560
Speaker 2: shouldn't have clarified his comments.

3290
02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:52,000
Speaker 3: Where's the lie?

3291
02:38:52,480 --> 02:38:55,400
Speaker 2: Black award shows have had white artists on the platforms

3292
02:38:55,440 --> 02:38:58,160
Speaker 2: like Jack Harlow at the BET Awards and Kid Rock,

3293
02:38:58,240 --> 02:39:00,920
Speaker 2: and I always wonder why not showcase on urban black

3294
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:03,400
Speaker 2: artists such as mister Kravis. But you and Karen did

3295
02:39:03,400 --> 02:39:05,200
Speaker 2: a great job breaking down to check your history of

3296
02:39:05,240 --> 02:39:07,640
Speaker 2: black artists and gate keepers on both sides, and I thank.

3297
02:39:07,440 --> 02:39:10,200
Speaker 3: You for that. Okay, Mandy, we off to a good start.

3298
02:39:10,240 --> 02:39:12,680
Speaker 3: I like that. I appreciate that. Now.

3299
02:39:12,720 --> 02:39:15,840
Speaker 2: Personally, I'm never gonna tell somebody shouldn't clarify the comments.

3300
02:39:15,480 --> 02:39:18,959
Speaker 3: Because I think clarity is always good. So you get a.

3301
02:39:18,920 --> 02:39:21,720
Speaker 2: Better understand if he felt like what he said originally

3302
02:39:21,840 --> 02:39:24,600
Speaker 2: was taken, which was said in a white publication translated

3303
02:39:24,640 --> 02:39:27,879
Speaker 2: through white folks. If he said, lon hold on, let

3304
02:39:27,879 --> 02:39:30,039
Speaker 2: me put out an Instagram comment so y'all see what

3305
02:39:30,080 --> 02:39:31,000
Speaker 2: I really mean.

3306
02:39:31,959 --> 02:39:34,160
Speaker 3: I respect that even more.

3307
02:39:34,520 --> 02:39:37,199
Speaker 2: Because I think that that really shows that he cares,

3308
02:39:37,520 --> 02:39:39,440
Speaker 2: because I think if he was the person that a

3309
02:39:39,520 --> 02:39:41,879
Speaker 2: lot of those original responses made him out to be

3310
02:39:42,040 --> 02:39:43,640
Speaker 2: like this, he's a white.

3311
02:39:43,400 --> 02:39:45,119
Speaker 3: Love and coon that hates black people.

3312
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:49,119
Speaker 2: His clarification, women like, I said what I said, suck

3313
02:39:49,240 --> 02:39:51,800
Speaker 2: my dick. Black people ain't shit, and he didn't do that.

3314
02:39:51,920 --> 02:39:52,959
Speaker 3: He's like, man, I just want.

3315
02:39:52,840 --> 02:39:55,920
Speaker 2: To show love and be loved, and I agree. Quick

3316
02:39:56,000 --> 02:39:59,400
Speaker 2: question may sound stupid to you, but do you think

3317
02:39:59,520 --> 02:40:01,680
Speaker 2: or may sound, but do you think if Lenny Kravis

3318
02:40:01,800 --> 02:40:04,560
Speaker 2: us his famous mother's last name, black people, media and

3319
02:40:04,600 --> 02:40:06,720
Speaker 2: awards will be more accepting than him since he was

3320
02:40:07,360 --> 02:40:09,440
Speaker 2: on a famous black show that she was on, a

3321
02:40:09,440 --> 02:40:12,000
Speaker 2: famous black show that black people grew up watching. I'm

3322
02:40:12,040 --> 02:40:14,520
Speaker 2: not saying that he should have relied on nepotism and

3323
02:40:14,560 --> 02:40:16,680
Speaker 2: that should give him an automatic black famous card to

3324
02:40:16,959 --> 02:40:19,879
Speaker 2: Black media and awards, but like, if Black media Awards

3325
02:40:19,920 --> 02:40:21,879
Speaker 2: wanted to play tribute to his mother and wanted to

3326
02:40:21,920 --> 02:40:24,199
Speaker 2: know more about her life and her impact.

3327
02:40:24,120 --> 02:40:27,480
Speaker 3: He's the guy to go to. Just a thought, and

3328
02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:28,560
Speaker 3: she said, I just wanted to add.

3329
02:40:28,640 --> 02:40:30,840
Speaker 2: The reason why I suggested asked the question on my

3330
02:40:30,840 --> 02:40:33,520
Speaker 2: previous email is because if black people feel like Lenny

3331
02:40:33,560 --> 02:40:36,360
Speaker 2: Kravis is playing white music, it has nothing to do

3332
02:40:36,400 --> 02:40:39,880
Speaker 2: with black culture. Maybe knowing his famous mother's last name

3333
02:40:40,240 --> 02:40:43,120
Speaker 2: and how he's in tune with his Bahamian roots might

3334
02:40:44,680 --> 02:40:48,080
Speaker 2: like magnify with black people more, if that makes sense.

3335
02:40:51,040 --> 02:40:53,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. I don't be honest, I don't know.

3336
02:40:53,720 --> 02:40:55,359
Speaker 3: I think a lot of this shit is ignorance.

3337
02:40:56,280 --> 02:40:58,880
Speaker 2: When you see like, oh he got a guitar, he

3338
02:40:59,040 --> 02:41:01,920
Speaker 2: not doing this for black people. A lot of that

3339
02:41:02,000 --> 02:41:05,160
Speaker 2: comes from a place of ignorance, distrust, things, trauma passed

3340
02:41:05,200 --> 02:41:08,480
Speaker 2: down in our community. It's never fair, it's never really

3341
02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:12,120
Speaker 2: one hundred percent logical. Even a response to him and

3342
02:41:12,400 --> 02:41:14,400
Speaker 2: the immediate response to him and how people were trying

3343
02:41:14,400 --> 02:41:15,279
Speaker 2: to dismiss.

3344
02:41:14,920 --> 02:41:17,520
Speaker 3: What he said is like, see, I told you he

3345
02:41:17,600 --> 02:41:17,960
Speaker 3: wasn't shit.

3346
02:41:18,320 --> 02:41:21,240
Speaker 2: It feels like a defense mechanism and not necessarily a

3347
02:41:22,120 --> 02:41:25,480
Speaker 2: truly thought out like I'm responding to his position.

3348
02:41:25,560 --> 02:41:29,440
Speaker 3: And what was said. So I don't know. Maybe maybe not.

3349
02:41:29,640 --> 02:41:33,520
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not sure to be honest, care anything.

3350
02:41:33,680 --> 02:41:37,199
Speaker 7: No, I don't know. I don't know if we would

3351
02:41:37,240 --> 02:41:41,240
Speaker 7: make a difference. I think that for a not everybody,

3352
02:41:41,560 --> 02:41:44,280
Speaker 7: but for a percentage of the black community. Once you

3353
02:41:44,400 --> 02:41:46,840
Speaker 7: quote unquote pick up a guitar and once you quote

3354
02:41:46,920 --> 02:41:49,360
Speaker 7: unquote stop playing that white people shit, which is not

3355
02:41:49,440 --> 02:41:51,400
Speaker 7: a true statement, but that's how a lot of us

3356
02:41:51,440 --> 02:41:53,280
Speaker 7: look at it because that's how a lot of us

3357
02:41:53,400 --> 02:41:56,039
Speaker 7: was raised up. It is a complete turnoff. It wouldn't

3358
02:41:56,120 --> 02:41:57,959
Speaker 7: matter if he used his mama's.

3359
02:41:58,200 --> 02:41:59,279
Speaker 3: If he was Lenny Roker.

3360
02:41:59,400 --> 02:42:01,840
Speaker 2: I don't know that people are like, Okay, that's a

3361
02:42:02,560 --> 02:42:04,360
Speaker 2: now that being said not to be funny, but I

3362
02:42:04,400 --> 02:42:06,800
Speaker 2: am kind of being funny. If her last name was

3363
02:42:06,840 --> 02:42:08,360
Speaker 2: like Jackson.

3364
02:42:12,920 --> 02:42:16,400
Speaker 3: They may accent. Okay, certain black last names do a

3365
02:42:16,400 --> 02:42:18,320
Speaker 3: lot of heavy lifting. So I don't know.

3366
02:42:18,400 --> 02:42:20,640
Speaker 2: If it's been like Lenny Washington, people might be like,

3367
02:42:21,680 --> 02:42:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, Lenny Jefferson, we need to hear this

3368
02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:26,640
Speaker 2: brother out, like can work with that.

3369
02:42:26,959 --> 02:42:28,480
Speaker 3: Maybe it's that simple, but I don't know.

3370
02:42:28,720 --> 02:42:34,840
Speaker 2: I imagine it's some combination of white gatekeepers, black grievance, and miscommunication.

3371
02:42:35,120 --> 02:42:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, among all.

3372
02:42:37,360 --> 02:42:40,440
Speaker 2: I hope, honestly, I hope on both sides, right. I

3373
02:42:40,440 --> 02:42:43,600
Speaker 2: hope it's an alert to black media. Any of these

3374
02:42:43,600 --> 02:42:46,640
Speaker 2: black people you think don't care about black folks and

3375
02:42:46,680 --> 02:42:47,320
Speaker 2: black publication.

3376
02:42:47,440 --> 02:42:48,279
Speaker 3: I hope you reach out.

3377
02:42:48,120 --> 02:42:52,240
Speaker 2: To them, you know, And I hope for black talent.

3378
02:42:53,040 --> 02:42:55,320
Speaker 2: If you have handlers and agents and all that shit,

3379
02:42:55,400 --> 02:42:58,920
Speaker 2: I hope you and they white Jewish whatever, like not

3380
02:42:59,080 --> 02:43:01,440
Speaker 2: black person It is hope you reach out to them

3381
02:43:01,480 --> 02:43:04,240
Speaker 2: and go, hey, it is very important to me that

3382
02:43:04,360 --> 02:43:08,040
Speaker 2: I do the interview with essence or ebony or what like.

3383
02:43:08,120 --> 02:43:11,000
Speaker 2: That is important to me as a black artist. I

3384
02:43:11,080 --> 02:43:13,160
Speaker 2: don't want to hear that you're turning them down. I

3385
02:43:13,200 --> 02:43:15,640
Speaker 2: don't want to your team when I'm on a red carpet,

3386
02:43:15,760 --> 02:43:18,879
Speaker 2: don't brush, don't usher me away from the black folks.

3387
02:43:19,440 --> 02:43:22,080
Speaker 2: You know, I loved that period of time when you

3388
02:43:22,120 --> 02:43:26,440
Speaker 2: see like Sterling K. Brown stopping making sure I'm talking

3389
02:43:26,480 --> 02:43:29,600
Speaker 2: to these black people before I leave. That matters a

3390
02:43:29,640 --> 02:43:32,040
Speaker 2: lot to us, and it's such a little thing, but

3391
02:43:32,480 --> 02:43:37,400
Speaker 2: it's a huge thing. So last one, Sharda says, Hey,

3392
02:43:37,720 --> 02:43:41,840
Speaker 2: Rod and Karen, I'm Agent nineteen on Twitter, I'm Sharda.

3393
02:43:41,840 --> 02:43:44,200
Speaker 2: I've been listening y'all since twenty sixteen. I met a

3394
02:43:44,240 --> 02:43:47,160
Speaker 2: listener in a while. I'm a teacher, so before and

3395
02:43:47,200 --> 02:43:49,240
Speaker 2: after school I may listen to sean speaker. She heard

3396
02:43:49,320 --> 02:43:51,760
Speaker 2: Rod talking and asked about it. She had been listening

3397
02:43:51,760 --> 02:43:54,000
Speaker 2: to you on Karen Hunter. She talked about how much

3398
02:43:54,000 --> 02:43:56,800
Speaker 2: she liked you on the show, Oh Listen.

3399
02:43:56,600 --> 02:43:59,160
Speaker 3: Karen Hunters The words two Worlds, Clyde.

3400
02:43:59,000 --> 02:44:02,320
Speaker 2: Black, Karen's love yeah, you dad, I do. I'm big

3401
02:44:02,320 --> 02:44:07,240
Speaker 2: in at Granemographic. But also like care Hunter's audience has

3402
02:44:07,280 --> 02:44:10,920
Speaker 2: been so like giving and kind and fun, and I

3403
02:44:11,000 --> 02:44:13,600
Speaker 2: really do it. And Karen Hunter herself has been very

3404
02:44:13,600 --> 02:44:17,280
Speaker 2: given in kind and fun on her show. And you know,

3405
02:44:17,320 --> 02:44:19,199
Speaker 2: I'm damn near at Staateple at this point. I pop

3406
02:44:19,280 --> 02:44:22,200
Speaker 2: up almost every Friday, and I make the time, man,

3407
02:44:22,200 --> 02:44:28,000
Speaker 2: because it's fun and man, it's just good vibes and

3408
02:44:28,000 --> 02:44:29,880
Speaker 2: and like I said, the audience is so dope, and

3409
02:44:30,120 --> 02:44:32,680
Speaker 2: she has a much wider reach than even I knew

3410
02:44:32,720 --> 02:44:36,960
Speaker 2: because people like there was somebody that from my high

3411
02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:39,240
Speaker 2: school that found me on Facebook and friended me to

3412
02:44:39,280 --> 02:44:41,560
Speaker 2: be like, I heard you on Careen Hunter, and I

3413
02:44:41,600 --> 02:44:42,600
Speaker 2: was like, oh wow.

3414
02:44:44,040 --> 02:44:45,240
Speaker 3: I wanted y'all to know.

3415
02:44:45,240 --> 02:44:47,320
Speaker 2: That I became premium back at twenty nineteen and live

3416
02:44:47,360 --> 02:44:47,920
Speaker 2: it look back.

3417
02:44:48,240 --> 02:44:49,960
Speaker 3: I need you to chill out on the guest shows.

3418
02:44:50,000 --> 02:44:52,080
Speaker 2: You to our hown because my podcast listed so long,

3419
02:44:52,440 --> 02:44:55,280
Speaker 2: just kidding, I love it. I now listen to the

3420
02:44:55,280 --> 02:44:58,880
Speaker 2: War Report, Marvel Cinematic University. Three guys are the care

3421
02:44:58,959 --> 02:45:01,520
Speaker 2: Hunter the name a few. Let's go this show and

3422
02:45:01,560 --> 02:45:03,640
Speaker 2: all the other shows that helped me so much through

3423
02:45:03,640 --> 02:45:07,000
Speaker 2: the pandemic, having a complicated twin president, pregnancy, and not

3424
02:45:07,040 --> 02:45:09,879
Speaker 2: having many friends where I live. Karen, I too am

3425
02:45:09,879 --> 02:45:12,440
Speaker 2: a cozy gamer. Thank you for the recommendations. I have

3426
02:45:12,480 --> 02:45:14,800
Speaker 2: a running list of ones that try you know, what's

3427
02:45:14,800 --> 02:45:19,360
Speaker 2: good during cozy gaming, podcasting, listening to podcasts.

3428
02:45:18,480 --> 02:45:23,720
Speaker 7: It really is, yeah, like while you farming or or

3429
02:45:24,280 --> 02:45:27,280
Speaker 7: chopping down trees, or going through the minds or fucking

3430
02:45:27,360 --> 02:45:28,680
Speaker 7: plucking flowers, you.

3431
02:45:28,720 --> 02:45:32,720
Speaker 2: Know, or power washing washing. I feel like power washing

3432
02:45:32,840 --> 02:45:33,480
Speaker 2: is a cozy game.

3433
02:45:33,680 --> 02:45:35,880
Speaker 3: It is. It's a very clozy game. I keep keep

3434
02:45:35,920 --> 02:45:38,160
Speaker 3: the band. I love hearing y'all talk about regular random stuff.

3435
02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Lastly, Roy, would you happen to have a playlist of

3436
02:45:40,040 --> 02:45:42,360
Speaker 2: instrumental songs you play on the show? I want to

3437
02:45:42,360 --> 02:45:43,600
Speaker 2: play them in my classroom.

3438
02:45:43,640 --> 02:45:44,600
Speaker 3: They are all bops.

3439
02:45:44,879 --> 02:45:47,120
Speaker 2: I don't because these are ones that will email to

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02:45:47,240 --> 02:45:49,400
Speaker 2: us and sent to us. Now you can find these

3441
02:45:49,600 --> 02:45:55,440
Speaker 2: artists on Spotify. Felt five Bro Bro cooked that up?

3442
02:45:55,480 --> 02:46:04,400
Speaker 2: That which is my brother Psycho music, Psycho music, and

3443
02:46:04,440 --> 02:46:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to draw a blank hold on. Give

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02:46:06,000 --> 02:46:09,480
Speaker 2: me a second, everybody Infrared Cryptoo that's a major one.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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02:46:10,160 --> 02:46:13,200
Speaker 2: Dj Jaffa, I don't know which is DJ j A

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02:46:13,400 --> 02:46:15,560
Speaker 2: f f A. I don't know if he puts his

3448
02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:18,280
Speaker 2: instrumentals on Spotify or not, but he also sent us

3449
02:46:18,320 --> 02:46:21,640
Speaker 2: a ton so if you make a list of those artists,

3450
02:46:21,760 --> 02:46:24,080
Speaker 2: you will get a lot of the beats and some

3451
02:46:24,160 --> 02:46:25,600
Speaker 2: new ones and new songs.

3452
02:46:25,640 --> 02:46:30,080
Speaker 3: So check it out. Love you to Agent nineteen. Thank you.

3453
02:46:31,280 --> 02:46:34,680
Speaker 2: And we got one card in the mail this week.

3454
02:46:35,440 --> 02:46:39,160
Speaker 3: Uh and I'm gonna mail y'all's cards out next week,

3455
02:46:40,280 --> 02:46:42,000
Speaker 3: so limited a mount of time you better get in.

3456
02:46:42,200 --> 02:46:45,080
Speaker 2: This one has a Christmas tree on it and if

3457
02:46:45,120 --> 02:46:47,360
Speaker 2: you can turn to the side and see these are

3458
02:46:47,440 --> 02:46:50,720
Speaker 2: actual like little ornament pop up things.

3459
02:46:51,959 --> 02:46:53,760
Speaker 3: And it's something mess with me to hold on to forever.

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02:46:54,200 --> 02:46:55,600
Speaker 3: Mike Be and Debbie O. Now.

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02:46:55,640 --> 02:46:58,680
Speaker 2: The card writing says wishing you a merry Christmas, ap everything.

3462
02:46:59,320 --> 02:47:02,000
Speaker 2: The personal note is Rod and Karen, thank you for

3463
02:47:02,040 --> 02:47:04,800
Speaker 2: everything you have done to create a great community in

3464
02:47:04,840 --> 02:47:06,199
Speaker 2: the blackout Tips might.

3465
02:47:06,040 --> 02:47:10,520
Speaker 3: Be and WIO thank you and thank you for this card.

3466
02:47:10,840 --> 02:47:11,960
Speaker 3: And that's it.

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02:47:12,040 --> 02:47:13,800
Speaker 2: We made it in just under three hours. Let's go

3468
02:47:13,800 --> 02:47:15,920
Speaker 2: ahead wrap this up. We'll do a doing it for

3469
02:47:15,959 --> 02:47:18,160
Speaker 2: the GRAM during one of the regular episodes this week.

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02:47:18,640 --> 02:47:25,640
Speaker 2: Thank you for everyone with your kind, thoughtful, empathetic writings, emails, voicemails.

3471
02:47:25,760 --> 02:47:26,760
Speaker 3: I love our audience.

3472
02:47:26,800 --> 02:47:28,560
Speaker 2: This is why we'll sit up here for three hours

3473
02:47:28,560 --> 02:47:31,360
Speaker 2: on a Saturday. And Karen has to get her hair done,

3474
02:47:31,400 --> 02:47:32,200
Speaker 2: so we gotta go.

3475
02:47:32,600 --> 02:47:37,040
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon. Until then, I love you.

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02:47:37,240 --> 02:47:38,000
Speaker 3: I love you too.

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02:47:38,320 --> 02:47:39,039
Speaker 8: Aah