1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come 3 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences 4 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Brigard Wineker. 7 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: Oh. 8 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: I hope you're doing fine. What's going on in my life? 9 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: I ate dinner at five pm, and so I'm full, 10 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: but it's earlier than usual. I feel like that time 11 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: just continues to slip backwards. That's just maybe a condition 12 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: of the pandemic. I feel like by the time this 13 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: is overall, be eating lunch at eight am. And that's fine. 14 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: We're just doing what we can do. You don't care, 15 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: that doesn't matter. You're here for the podcast, and so 16 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: we're going to get into it. I'm very excited about 17 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: today's guest, and you should be too. Just a deer man, 18 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: none other than Jimmy Kimmel. 19 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: Hey, now, how you doing, Jimmy? Welcome to? 20 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: I said, no gifts. It's weird to see you without glasses. 21 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: It's a kind of a new development for me. 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: I feel like I should put on glasses now, since 23 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: you are now not balanced the scales here. I bought these. 24 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: These are women's glasses. I bought on Costco dot com. 25 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: What they're very nice looking. Well, thank you, you know 26 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: they are. 27 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: I need reading glasses now, and I lose them constantly 28 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: all over the house. So I buy them in packs 29 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: of eleven now and then sometimes they show up and 30 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 4: they're like, I don't know what color this is, but 31 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 4: they're not designed for men. 32 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: They look nice. 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. 34 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: Wait, so Costco sells glasses in bulk. 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: Oh they sell everything in bulk. Yeah. Yeah, they can 36 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: get a whole pack of reading glasses on costco dot com. 37 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: What if you want to launch an optometry office or something, Yeah, 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: we're opening a lens Crafters. 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: Actually, do you remember how Pamela Anderson opened the Starbucks 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: in her home just so she had it there. 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: But is that true? 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know. Oh you missed that one. It 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: was a big story at the time. When it happened, 44 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: it was like, oh my god, nothing crazier then this 45 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: will ever happen. When I was a kid, when I 46 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 4: was in junior high school, I wore glasses. I always 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 4: had glasses as a kid, but my parents were too 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: cheap to ever take me back to get another Paris like, 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: these are the glasses you will wear for the rest 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: of your life. And one arm broke off glasses and 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: they never took me back to get another pair. So 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: I wore for at least a year and a half. 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: I wore glasses with one arm. And I'm here to 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 4: tell you that you don't need two arms for glasses. 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: You can wear them unless someone calls your name and 56 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: you turn your head, in which case they will go 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: flying across the room. 58 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 2: Right, I feel like that's going to require a decent 59 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: amount of tilting your head. That's going to lead to 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: some sort of neck problem. 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: You learn to work with it, But yeah, you might. 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: Maybe I'll find out in my eighties that that's where 63 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: my net it's. 64 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: Going to manifest itself. At some point. You're going to 65 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: just have this strange tick that you're dealing with. Wait, 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: so how did you solve the problem? You ended up 67 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: convincing your parents to get new glasses. 68 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: I applied for what do they call it when you 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: divorce your parents? 70 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: Emancipation? 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I became emascurpated. No, I got a job, and 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: then I just bought my. 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Own glasses, right right, yeah, Well, glasses until maybe five 74 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: or ten years ago were a very expensive thing to 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: buy unless you wanted the worst glasses in the world. 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: Isn't it funny that you can pay I can get 77 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: a pair of ray bands or whatever, or even more expensive. 78 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: I sometimes I'll wander in the sunglass hut with my 79 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: wife and I stare at these glasses and go, why 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: is this one three hundred and fifty dollars? And then 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: the glasses at CVS are one dollar? Why is that? 82 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: And the answer is I don't know. 83 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think you put them on and you'll you'll 84 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: know almost immediately, or at least people looking at you 85 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: will know what's going on. I feel like a CVS 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: pair of glasses, Well, I don't know. I haven't looked 87 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: at the CBS glasses in a while, so. 88 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: I cannot aspagine how they should be. I mean the 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: price comparison, Like if you bought a car that costs 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: three hundred times as much as another car, you'd say, well, 91 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: there's you know, this is a much better car. 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: But in the case of the CVS classes, it's like 93 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: forty percent. That's very true. This is the thing that 94 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: I feel like. An optometrist told me they were trying 95 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: to sell me on a pair of glasses that like 96 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars and they told me, well the last 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: of ten or fifteen years. And I thought, I don't 98 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: want that. I don't want to be wearing the same 99 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: par These will not look good in three years, in fifteen, 100 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to look like I'm out of my mind 101 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 2: wearing a pair of glass. 102 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: Unless you're Woody Allen, you don't wear the same pair 103 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: of glasses for your whole life. 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: And no one wants to be going for that look 105 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: in any right, Ye out of style? Oh to be 106 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: in a sunglass hut, Now that's the dream. 107 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure, how are you doing? I'm doing well, 108 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 4: everything's good, you know, I I there are definitely things 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 4: I enjoy about this lockdown time of our lives. You know, 110 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: I'm doing a lot less, which you're right. 111 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: I mean you were working from home for a long time. 112 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I was doing the show for my Actually 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 4: the first week I was like kind of doing everything 114 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: by myself. I was just sitting and talking into my laptop. 115 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: And then we decided that maybe we should we should 116 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: coordinate it and really you know, at the time, I thought, well, well, 117 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: this will be over in two weeks. We all did, 118 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: and here we are. Yeah. Now, I don't know if 119 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 4: you've seen, but we have. You know, we forced the 120 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: staff into the into the studio, right, and so there 121 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: are like fifteen people sitting there pretending the last at 122 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: my jokes. 123 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: They make a very good audience. 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're pretty good because you know what one of 125 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: the I found that it if you find if you 126 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: have an audience whose jobs, whose livelihoods depend upon laughing 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: at your jokes, it's really funny. You turned out to 128 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: be hilarious. 129 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: If all of the audience is being paid at all times, 130 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: you're going to get a decent laugh. 131 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: That's yes. 132 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: And you guys have a new kind of setup for 133 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: the guests. You've kind of got this a little bit 134 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: more casual. You're not behind a desk anymore. How are 135 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: you feeling about that? 136 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of those things. What do you think 137 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: of that? Because I feel like maybe I might not 138 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: ever go back to the desk. I don't know, I 139 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 4: kind of like just sitting there. 140 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're kind of a casual guy. 141 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: The desk has I mean, as long expired as far 142 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: as why was it ever there in the first place. 143 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: Why is it's not an office job? 144 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 4: Well, it's in case I need to do my taxes suddenly, 145 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 4: you know, I have a flat surface. The benefits to 146 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: the desk, I'll tell you a couple of benefits of 147 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: the desk. One of them is it gives you a 148 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: place to like hold up an album or a photograph 149 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: or whatever. And and it has to be very still 150 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: when that happens because the camera is shooting it from 151 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: like thirty feet away, So that is good. And then 152 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: also sometimes you can hide props that you want to reveal. 153 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 4: I can't really do if there's no desk. I also 154 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: feel a little bit weird about, like I'm not sure 155 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: how to sit sometimes, you know, Like I like high 156 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: I like only having a third of a body. It's 157 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: almost like being a muppet or something. So that's nice. 158 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: So there definitely are some advantages to and also like 159 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: my desk card with like my questions, my notes that 160 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: I've written down, I don't have those, So what are 161 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: you doing? 162 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Then? Uh? 163 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: You know, the truth is I know it all. I 164 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: have it in my head. It's just it's a little 165 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: bit of a security blanket to have it there. But 166 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: if there's something really specific that I need to read, 167 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: like what time something is on, or you know, a 168 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: list of names or something, it's it's not as convenient. 169 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like you get a little magazine rack 170 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: to hold things, you get an easel to put them on. Yeah, 171 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: you know, maybe a little like a little garden wall 172 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: behind you to hide various props. 173 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 4: That could be nice. 174 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, as someone who never knows what to 175 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: do with my hands, that would be to be able 176 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: to just put them on a desk. I would need 177 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: that so I don't know what you're doing that would 178 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: pull me off. The energy of the show would completely change, 179 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: you know, as. 180 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: A master at with as far as TV hosts, as 181 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: far as the hands go is Tom bergeron I don't 182 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: know if you've ever noticed how much he adjusts the 183 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 4: cuffs on his his shirt sleeves. He will He's got 184 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: a thing where he comes back from commercial I'd always 185 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: noticed this when he was on Dancing with the Stars, that. 186 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: He was always kind of fixing his sleeves. Well, that's 187 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: something to do. You've got to find some business to do. 188 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think he invented it really nobody else does. 189 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: I mean, what else are you going to do? Check 190 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: your watch or put your hand? 191 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: You could check your watch, but that it seems like 192 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 4: you want to leave, like you're ready to go, and 193 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: that's not really a great message. 194 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: For the viewers, right. What else have you been doing 195 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: in quarantine? I mean, what is your day to day 196 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: when you're not working? 197 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 4: Well, you know my macro may I'm pretty focused on that. 198 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: Well, you've been sending out those in the mail, and 199 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: I've appreciated them. 200 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: Yes, it's all owls, which I think I'm trying to 201 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: figure out a new animal. But I've been you know, 202 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm working and then I have two little kids and 203 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: they're crazy and they run around. Basically, I come home 204 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: from work, they attack me at the door while I 205 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: still have my backpack on, you know, I topple over 206 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: and then we entertain them and vice versa for about 207 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 4: two and a half three hours, try to get them 208 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: to sleep, get them to sleep. I usually fall asleep, 209 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: actually I fall asleep with my son, and my wife 210 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: fall asleep with my with our daughter every single night, 211 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: and then about an hour and ten minutes later, we 212 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 4: wake up and I do homework for about three hours. 213 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: It's great. Yeah. 214 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: Do you feel like your kids have noticed different major 215 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: difference in life from the pandemic or is it? 216 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 217 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: I do. 218 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: I think they're going to be you know, like if 219 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: I leave the house even for a minute, it's like, well, 220 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: where are you going? What's you know, what's going on? 221 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: Especially when we went we first went back to work. 222 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: They didn't understand it at all because every day's like 223 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 4: every day for them was like, oh, this is how 224 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: it is. Dad and mom are home. And then it's like, 225 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 4: well it's not Saturday or Sunday, it's Monday. Now we 226 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: have to go to work. And you know, it's you 227 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: hate to disappoint them, but I do explain that that 228 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: we have to go to work. 229 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: Right this is my dog. My dog is dealing with 230 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: similar issues. 231 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: You have conversations. 232 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: You I sit her down and I try to explain 233 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 2: to her, if you want to keep living here, I'm 234 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: going to have to make money. I can't have you 235 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: eating the house plants while I'm gone, this kind of thing, 236 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: and she doesn't understand. Yeah, it's you know, the problem 237 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: is growing exponentially and we'll just have to deal with 238 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: it at some point. 239 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: And you know what, the dog, I think will get Yeah, 240 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 4: and the kids, all three of these creatures will get 241 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 4: used to it when they have to. Right. 242 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: Have you traveled at all during this Yes? I took 243 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: an RV trip to Idaho. That's right. Wait did you 244 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: was this your first time driving an RV? 245 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: Yes? It was. 246 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: What what did that feel like? That feels like such 247 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: a giant jump. It goes from fun to absolutely terrifying. 248 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: Like there was a stretch where I decided, you know what, 249 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: instead of stopping, we're gonna I'm gonna go through the 250 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: night and. 251 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 4: We're going to power our way from Utah to Idaho. 252 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 4: But then it was three o'clock in the morning, and 253 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: my wife and two little kids are conked out in 254 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: the back, you know, and they're you know, for them, 255 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 4: they're just dreaming, they're enjoying themselves. And for me, I 256 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: was guzzling coffee my just imagining. The thing that kept 257 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: me awake was imagining a big ball of fire and 258 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 4: my whole family in it, going through terrible situations like well, 259 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: you know, how would I want this to turn out? 260 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: Would I want to make sure I hope I die 261 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: with them because other you know, how will I handle 262 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: this nightmare that I've created, and that kept me awake. 263 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 4: But I couldn't help but be resentful as I was 264 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: the only one awake in driving. 265 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: I think drinking too much coffee late at night, We'll 266 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: do that to you. Yeah, and driving a five thousand 267 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: pound vehicle just resenting everyone in it. Did Mollie drive 268 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: the RV at all? No? No, no, she did not 269 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: sign up for driving. How fast does an RV go? 270 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: Are you going like freeway speeds? This feels so dangerous 271 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: to me? 272 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you can go fast. And then but when 273 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: it gets windy is when it starts getting a little shaky, 274 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: because you can really feel it, right, And we even 275 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: drove by it was it wasn't necessarily an RV. It 276 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: was a camper like that was trailing vehicle and the 277 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: camper those are the ones that are dangerous, I've learned, 278 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: because when they are attached to the vehicle, there's a 279 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: much greater chance that the camper is going to flip 280 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: over and flip the vehicle along with it. 281 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: God, just the vehicular chaos you've imagined over the last year. 282 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: So we're all lucky to be alive. 283 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: Did you stop any I mean you left la in 284 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: this thing. Where was your first stop? Was it in 285 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: like southern Utah or what? 286 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: Yes, it was, we stopped it. There's this great campsite 287 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: near It's spelled Hurricane, but they call it hur Hurrican, 288 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: you know that. Right, of course, we stopped at that 289 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 4: camp site and that was great. We stayed in the 290 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: tent and saw all the stars and all of that 291 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: stuff and it's lovely covered with dirt, and we loaded 292 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: ourselves back up. And then on my way up to 293 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: this is what really got us off track is I 294 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: decided that on our drive up to Utah, I knew 295 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 4: one person. I know one person who lives in Salt 296 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: Lake City, and it's Ty Burrell from Modern Fans, right. 297 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 4: He owns a bar there, Yeah, and he lives there. 298 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: That's where he lives. So I decided I had his address. 299 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 4: We were going to stop at his house and knock 300 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: on the door, just with no no heads up, nothing. 301 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: So we did and he was quite a way off 302 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: the freeway, which you know, takes a while on the RV. 303 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: And we get off the freeway and we get to 304 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: his house and I'm not gonna do nobody's else. Now 305 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: I've and I'm laughing the whole time. This is gonna 306 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: be so funny. I'm knocking this door. And then we 307 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: get there and I decide, Okay, here's what we're gonna do, 308 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: and my wife take a picture. I'm just sitting on 309 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: the steps in front of his front door, and then 310 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: we're going to text it to him and see what happened. 311 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: And you know, a lot of pranks that take a 312 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 4: lot of effort, is easy to be disappointed by the 313 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: people's reaction because he's like, oh my god, what are 314 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: you doing? Intel? Oh, one of those even what am 315 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: I doing it? I'm in front of your house. 316 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: I drove an rvy. 317 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: I've never been to salag City before. It's my first time. 318 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: I'm sitting in front of your house. 319 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: Was he completely out of town? 320 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: He was complete, he was in La Oh. 321 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: For me to just drop by a friend's house here 322 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: is a huge hassle. 323 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: I would only do it as a prank. I would 324 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 4: only do it to intentionally make them uncomfortable. 325 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: I feel like you're very committed to a prank. It's 326 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: something I admire, and that also makes me really uncomfortable. 327 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm someone who is not good at pranks or good 328 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: at receiving a prank. 329 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: I love them. I you know, I was thinking about 330 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: it today because when we're taking this is April fools Day, 331 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: and I was thinking, you know, what am I going 332 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: to do? And you know, should I do anything? It's 333 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: just like, you know, like if you're a real drunk, 334 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: you don't get hammered on New Year's Eve. 335 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: You know, that's kind of me on April fools Day. 336 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: But I do like doing stuff. 337 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: And I bought my kids some rubber dog shit. We 338 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: invested in, uh war pieces of rubber dogshit, and I 339 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: brought them home and I showed them to my daughter 340 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: who's six, and boy, I've never seen anybody laugh harder 341 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: than she was laughing while we were setting them on 342 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 4: the toilets around the house. We just put them on 343 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 4: the seat and then just in front of the toilet 344 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 4: or whatever and waiting for you know, Grandma and Aunt 345 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: Kelly to find these things. 346 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: And she was dying laughing. I mean, she was laughing 347 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: so hard that it made me laugh so hard. 348 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: And I don't know that I've ever laughed more from 349 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: five dollars worth of anything, never mind brown rubber. 350 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: That it's incredible. I had a friend text meybe. About 351 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: an hour ago, he said, you better check out your 352 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: Instagram stories. They're full of porn. I think you got hacked, 353 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: and my heart sank. I was like, oh my god, 354 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: what's happening. I can't handle these things. And of course 355 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: it wasn't. It was a prank. And you know I'm not. 356 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm nervous enough as is. I'm unsettled all the time. 357 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: I don't need more pranks in my life. 358 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: Since there are certain people I won't pull pranks on 359 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: because it upsets them too much. Everybody I could go through, 360 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 4: like if you and I went through a list of 361 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: everyone we know mutually, which is probably one hundred and 362 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: fifty people, right right right, I could tell you whether 363 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: or not I would pull a prank on each one 364 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: of those people, and maybe to what degree. 365 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: I feel like even old coworkers, the writers at your show, 366 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: I could probably tell you that person certainly doesn't like 367 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: to be pranked. That person, yeah, that kind of thing. 368 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, whether they like it or not is not necessarily 369 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: part of my criteria. 370 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I like scaring people. I like jumping 371 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: out of places, and I get that from my dad, 372 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: and no one ever likes that and no. My boyfriend 373 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: Jim had to finally beg me, you have to promise 374 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: you'll never do this again. And I couldn't understand, like 375 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: why would I stop doing this? But it was genuinely scaring. 376 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: I love it too, and my mom would do it 377 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: a lot. 378 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: And my mother would, you know, like grab my dad's 379 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 4: ankle in the shower and that kind of stuff, and 380 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: it is so fun. I mean, you know, there are 381 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: certain people around my house, but my wife gets so 382 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: mad when I scare her. I can't scare her anymore 383 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: because sometimes I scare her accidentally, So I have to 384 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: make a lot of noise now when I go into 385 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: the bathroom when I come home from work, because when 386 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 4: she's bathing the children, you know, because they react, they're 387 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: like hey, and she screams. Some people are just jumpy, right, 388 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 4: Those are the ones who are really fun to scare. 389 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: Right, And I think the thing those people need to 390 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: understand is it's one of the rare feelings that you 391 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: don't get in any other situation. To get your heart 392 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 2: racing and you're afraid for a moment and then you're 393 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: safe enjoy that for a minute. That's not a pick 394 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: of a deal. 395 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: That's one way of looking at it. Yeah, I think 396 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 4: you know what a really great prank is, and this 397 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 4: is if you are somebody like your boyfriend who gets 398 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: scared a lot. Is if you can have you can 399 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 4: have wherewithal to keep this in your brain. The moment 400 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: you do get prank is pretend to die of a 401 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 4: heart attack, and then it all turns right back around. 402 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: This is all adding up. I do have cholesterol at 403 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: the high end of normal. So I think that I'm 404 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: just building a story here and eventually I will be 405 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: dead on the floor for a few minutes and see 406 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: what happens. Jimmy, I mean speaking of all of this 407 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: kind of thing and surprising people and you know, not 408 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: obeying people's wishes, that kind of thing. Look, this podcast 409 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: is it has a very clear title. I said no gifts, 410 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 2: and a few weeks ago, excuse me, I just. 411 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 4: Feel like it'd be rude to not bring a gift. 412 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: You know. 413 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: Look, look I reached out to you. I thought Jimmy 414 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: could probably use a little exposure. Maybe you'd be on 415 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: my podcast and we just have a nice chat. This 416 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: is my former boss. I have a deep respect for 417 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: this person. We'll have a good time and then move 418 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: on with our lives. You agreed to be on the podcast. 419 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: I was very happy, and I believe it was yesterday. 420 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: I opened the door and there's a box waiting for me. 421 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 4: I know, I know, I know, but you know I 422 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: just wanted to get you a little something. 423 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I mean, do you think I should open 424 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: it here on the show? I can wait till later. 425 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: Okay, now I think you should open it. I'd love 426 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: to get your reaction to it's kind of a wrap beautifully. 427 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's truly a beautiful wrapping job. It's kind of 428 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: a Is this a Gingham? Is that what we're calling this? 429 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 4: I believe it is. Yes, I believe it is. Yeah, 430 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 4: maybe linens that look like that. Yes, it's flew a 431 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: Gingham pattern, wrapped by my assistant Kelly. Because I am 432 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: the worst rapper of gifts, I. 433 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: Would need that absolutely best you in that footage of 434 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: me wrapping a gift would be the saddest footage ever recorded. 435 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: I can't even figure it out. I cannot never it's 436 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: either way too much or three eighths of an inch 437 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: too little. I'll always have a hole that I have 438 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 4: to then cut out another square of paper. And tape 439 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: over the hole. 440 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: Or there's a giant like soft bunch of it at 441 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: the end. Oh yeah, it makes no sense to me. 442 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: I finally, just I've tried. I've really given at my all. 443 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: I've looked at YouTube tutorials. It doesn't work for me. 444 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: I think it's I'm not trying. I am trying. 445 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: I even thought i'd be smart and start wrapping things 446 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 4: in aluminum foil. That doesn't work at all. There's any 447 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: kind of a any kind of a sharp edge forget 448 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: about it. 449 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: Right, and aluminum foil tears so easily. Yeah, but let's 450 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: open this up. Let's see what's happening here. 451 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 4: Open it up. This is something. It makes me think 452 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 4: of you, and in fact, it makes me think of 453 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 4: when I hired you, kind of why I hired you. 454 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. 455 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see this. Okay, Oh, this. 456 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: Is very well wrapped. Some people might go too far. 457 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: I'll just say it is. 458 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 4: I might have to use my teeth hair even Yeah, 459 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 4: you know, Oh, my kids are yelling at me. Hey kids, 460 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm doing a podcast, been yelling, come out, come out. 461 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: I hope everything's okay. 462 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, because you may get to witness a 463 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 4: prank here, so uh, don't look in your box. 464 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I have not seen what's inside the box yet. 465 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: What's going on here? Oh? Thank you? 466 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: You made this for me? 467 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you? All right. It turns out to be 468 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: an Easter egg? 469 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: Is that or a painted Easter egg? 470 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 4: It's a painted Easter egg? And she says to Dad 471 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 4: from Jane, I made this for you, love Jane. 472 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: Oh that's so sweet. 473 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: All right, sorry about that. 474 00:22:50,920 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: I don't apologize. All right, let's open this up. I'd 475 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: like to get the tissue here, yep, tissue, the whole deal. Oh, 476 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: this is incredible. This is a deep cut. This is 477 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: a real cut. You've given me a volleyball, which that's right. 478 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you can explain or I'm to explain. Well, 479 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: I have to have some conversation about this. 480 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 4: You know, I always thought your Twitter was very funny, 481 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: but for whatever reason, what stuck with me most was 482 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: when you talk about your volleyball team and that you 483 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: were suing them and that you're disappointing with them, and 484 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: things are not good with my volleyball team. You tweeted 485 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 4: a lot about your volleyball team, but you space them out, 486 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: as I recall it'd be like three months no mention 487 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: of the volleyball team and then something, you know, like, 488 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 4: you know, praying for the strength to forgive my volleyball team. 489 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: I that's very true. I did that for an extremely 490 00:23:53,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: long time. It basically ended in twenty sixteen when the 491 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: world started on fire and Twitter also kind of started 492 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: on fire, and I was like, I don't think people 493 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: want to hear about my volleyball. I don't think they 494 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: even want to see me tweeting anymore. You know what, 495 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: I think it's volleyball time again, and now you have 496 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: a volleyball hopefully it will inspire you to tweet more 497 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: about your team. I've stopped tweeting. Twitter is not a 498 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: fun place to be anymore. It's just it's truly just 499 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: opening the gates of hell. Every time you get on it. You're, 500 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: of course the world. A lot of horrible things are 501 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: happening in the world. I just I need to be 502 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 2: able to control when I see those things. I can't 503 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: have just the banshees flying out at me at all times. Yeah, 504 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: I like the big I think the strike well, strike 505 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: a thousand I suppose was last January. There was a 506 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: moment when truly every person on Twitter was saying We're 507 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: entering World War three. Get ready for it, it's this week, 508 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: and I was convinced. I was like, oh, I mean, 509 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: most of these people are smarter than me, they probably 510 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: read more news than me. It's world War three. And 511 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: then of course that didn't come true, and so that 512 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: was kind of the last one of the final straws 513 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: for me. I was just like, I can't my brain 514 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: cannot handle this website anymore. It's not enjoyable, and it 515 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: just feels like you're telling jokes at a funeral all 516 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: the time. It's just a little miserable. And it's also 517 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: the way to go is to only have outgoing Twitter. 518 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: That would be nice only when you. 519 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 4: Put the jokes out, but you never see any feedback 520 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 4: to anything. Or I mean, you could do that if 521 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: you really wanted to, but I guess kind of part 522 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: of the fun of putting a joke out there is 523 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 4: seeing if people press that little heart button. 524 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: Right, there's the weird addiction issue that kind of goes 525 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: into it. There are just all kinds of things. But 526 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: I loved volleyball. I mean Twitter. I started it as 527 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: basically I thought, you know, I want to be a writer. 528 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: This is my I don't know anyone in this business. 529 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: I'll write jokes. I know how to do this, or 530 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 2: I'll learn how to do it. And I did it 531 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: for a long time, so it caused me a great 532 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: deal of anxiety. But the volleyball team was something I 533 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: would I knew I would always joy doing. I think 534 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: there's a lot of drama here. There's a very clear 535 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: goal of what's going on, and I can do it 536 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: once a week, I can do it once a month 537 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: or whatever. Also, volleyball is the sport that scares me 538 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: the most. 539 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 4: Is it? 540 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it's because I think largely because my older brother 541 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 2: was always throwing things at me as a kid, and 542 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: so there's like a real built in flinch mechanism in 543 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: my brain, even more than like dodgeball, Oh what, far 544 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: more than dodgeball for some reason, I think because dodgeball 545 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: the goal is to run away from the ball, and 546 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: so you have you know, you have the excuse to 547 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: get away from the ball. But in volleyball, if you're 548 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: running away from the ball, you're fucked. 549 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: So you're saying you have no use for this gift 550 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 4: that I've given. 551 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: I absolutely have a use for it. I get to 552 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 2: cherish it. I have this thing that I tweeted about 553 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: for years has now manifested itself in physical form. Yes, 554 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: this is like the secret. This is like what Oprah 555 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: was talking about. This is exactly the books. Everything you 556 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: do it tweet about it long enough and you will 557 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: get a volleyball. No, I mean, I mean that said 558 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: Twitter for me, as you well know. I mean, I 559 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: don't know if I've ever told you this story. Like 560 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: I tweeted for years and years and I moved to 561 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: La in twenty ten, and I had been here for 562 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: four years with no luck getting a writing job. I 563 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: had a couple like close calls that didn't work out, 564 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: and in twenty fourteen June, I was like, okay, well 565 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to write anymore. I mean, like, I 566 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: have no money this I really don't know anybody that's 567 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: gonna be able to get me a job. And Twitter, 568 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: I had had some you know whatever success on it, 569 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: but nothing had come of it. So I started looking 570 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: up social media jobs in Utah. I was like, it's over, 571 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: and my friend Matt Ingabretzen was like, just hang on 572 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: a little bit longer. And a month later my friend. 573 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: It was eleven o'clock at night and I had just 574 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 2: tweeted something that I had enjoyed, and a friend texted 575 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: me and said, I'm going to Krispy Kreme, which is 576 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: in Burbank. Do you want to go for a ride. 577 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: So it's like, I didn't look at my phone the 578 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: entire way, and we'd get to Chrispy Kreme and I 579 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: take it out, take the phone out, and I've received 580 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: a direct message from Jimmy Kimmel and about passed away. 581 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 2: And you said you had been reading my tweets and 582 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: that you enjoyed them, and I was. I was so 583 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: glad at that moment to be with a friend, because 584 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: had I not been, I would have spent twelve hours 585 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: thinking how do you respond to this, I'm going to 586 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: ruin another, you know, my last opportunity. And he's like, 587 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: just be a normal person, just say thank you. And 588 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: so that's what I did, which is, you know, whatever 589 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: I would have come up with certainly would have ruined 590 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: my chances at getting this job. And then over about 591 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: the course of am of course, the next day I 592 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: was flying to Utah and so I was like, oh, 593 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: any chance of a job coming up is now ruined. 594 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to be in Utah for three weeks. But 595 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: for the next month, I every time I tweeted, I 596 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 2: was sweating because you said you wanted to meet and 597 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: about possibly for a job, and so I was like, well, 598 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: every time I tweet, I may ruin my chance at 599 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: getting this job. And we also did have a lot 600 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: of communication, so every time I tweet, it was like, oh, well, 601 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: I haven't heard from Jimmy in two weeks. I guess 602 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: the hope is Hope has died, and who knows what 603 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: will happen. But then I finally came and I met 604 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: you at your office and you hired me, which and 605 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: then I went into my car and cried, and then, 606 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you truly just turned my entire life around. 607 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: It was such a wild moment for me. And weirdly, 608 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: that was kind of the last time you and I spoke, 609 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: just had a conversation, because then you became my boss. 610 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: And then my next fear set in, which is, now 611 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: this man's going. 612 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: To fire me. 613 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: So I was just afraid of you for a year 614 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: and a half. And I mean, it was a wonderful 615 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: job and I had such a great time, but every 616 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: night I would go to bed and think, I hope 617 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: I have at least one joke he likes tomorrow or 618 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: career is dead. 619 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm pretty I'm pretty loose when it 620 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 4: comes to that sort of thing, Like you can go 621 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 4: through a pretty long dry spell and I won't say 622 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: anything about it because I get it, And you know what, 623 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: I think that's a not that we're necessarily looking for lessons, 624 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: but it's interesting because people think it's People think that 625 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 4: you become successful because of a moment, and if you 626 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: really if you don't really analyze it, you may go like, oh, 627 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 4: well that was the moment, Bridget that I happened. Jimmy 628 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: Kimmel saw his tweet and then he contacted him and 629 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: he hired him. But the truth is, you've been working 630 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 4: on this every single day for years and doing it 631 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: and doing it and doing it and doing it over 632 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: and over again. I see funny tweets all the time, 633 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: but I won't necessarily reach out to somebody unless I 634 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: see a pattern of them, because anybody can write something 635 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: funny once. And I probably was tracking you for six months. 636 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: When I reached out to you. 637 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: I think you had been because I remember you when 638 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: you fall. Of course, I remember when you fall me, 639 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: and I was like, well, I mean that adds a 640 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: little bit of anxiety, but then you kind of forget 641 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: about it and keep like there's like two weeks Jimmy 642 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: Kimmel's followed me. I better be good. Then you don't 643 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: hear from him, and so it's just like, okay, well 644 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: he probably muted me, and now I'm free again. But 645 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: then it all worked out. It never occurred to me 646 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: to mute anybody. 647 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: I think if I follow somebody, that's like, uh, you 648 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: know that that means I'm interested. 649 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: Oh well, it's it's occurred to me hundreds of times 650 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: to mute people. 651 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 4: It's weird to be in a position where people are 652 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: over analyzing what you might think for me anyway, because 653 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: you know, I've certainly been on the other end of that, 654 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: and and I never really think of myself that way. 655 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 4: I have to like stop and kind of go through, 656 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: you know, go okay, oh yeah, well all right, that 657 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: makes sense. Yeah. The guys, you know, looking for a job, 658 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 4: and that's you know, that's what I did when I 659 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 4: was trying to get the attention of like my local 660 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: radio DJ who I would call it and try to 661 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: be funny and they're like, yeah, that's funny, and then 662 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 4: you know, you go to you never even get the 663 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: hotline number. You have to keep calling the request line 664 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 4: over and over again to try to get through and 665 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 4: make the guy laugh and hopefully meet him at a 666 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 4: at an appearance at a wet and wild water park 667 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: or something. 668 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: But that, I mean that worked. I mean that worked 669 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: out for you. I mean I'm curious, like, because you've 670 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: started in radio and now that podcasting is this enormous thing, 671 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: do you have any interest in podcasting? 672 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: I enjoy I loved being on the radio. You know, 673 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 4: it's basically this is the same as the radio, although 674 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 4: there's a lot less pressure when you're doing a podcast 675 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 4: than when you're doing a radio show, where you know, 676 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: you have a boss and you have ratings every month 677 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: and you have all of this and sponsors to deal 678 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: with and all this kind of stuff. It's definitely different 679 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 4: and it was much harder to get in. Like I 680 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 4: feel like if there had been podcasts when I was 681 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 4: starting out, I could have maybe gone more quickly, because 682 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 4: just getting on the air is two years of hanging 683 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 4: around the radio station. You're barely ever on and then 684 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 4: you know, some might call it a stroke of luck, 685 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 4: but really it was just like your situation where I 686 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: was just I came up a little funny ideas for 687 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 4: this dish jockey, you know, over a course of years, 688 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 4: like a couple of times a week, and then finally 689 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 4: he got an opportunity where he could hire me, and 690 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 4: he hired me. And it wasn't a matter of like 691 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 4: being funny one time, or making a tape or you know, 692 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: acing a job interview or something. It was just a 693 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 4: matter of like laying a ton of groundwork. Sure, and really, 694 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: like you know, being it's not even about it's not 695 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: about being an A plus once or twice. It's it's 696 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 4: about being like a B minus like a thousand times 697 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 4: in a row. 698 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: You know, everybody appreciates a B minus. A B minus 699 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: is pretty good, right, that's beyond, way beyond passing. 700 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 701 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: Now, something else I've been wanting to talk to you 702 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: about is cooking, because you're I mean, you're cooking up 703 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: a storm. I mean, as of the last couple of 704 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: days even you're now just boasting about how good you 705 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: are at making pizza. Cigarette Have you been cooking your 706 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 2: entire adult life like this? Or is it like a 707 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 2: recent interest. 708 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: I started cooking when I was twenty. I actually I 709 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 4: started when I was a teenager, but I was cooking 710 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 4: things like hot dogs. But I put a lot of 711 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 4: effort into and I still do. When I make a 712 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 4: hot dog is like I used to eat three hot 713 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 4: dogs for lunch almost every day, which explained my physique. 714 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: What were you putting on the hot dogs? 715 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 4: Golden's mustard and sauer kraut. And the way I did 716 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: it was I cooked the hot dogs in a dry 717 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 4: pan so I could kind of burn the outside the 718 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 4: skin in the same way you get like a Nathan's 719 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 4: in New York. And then I would throw the the 720 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: sour kraut into the pan with the hot dogs to 721 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: then steam them. I put the funds over top of 722 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 4: everything so that the steam from the sour crowd steam 723 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: the buns a little bit, and then I go crazy 724 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 4: with the mustard, and from there, you know, I did 725 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 4: morning radio. My first real paying job was in Seattle 726 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 4: and my partner Kent Voss, this guy I worked with. 727 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: We lived together and I was married. I got married 728 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 4: when I was twenty as well, so my wife at 729 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: the time had a regular job, so she got home 730 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: from work at five point thirty and Kent and I 731 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 4: got off work at ten am. So oftentimes i'd come home, 732 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 4: i'd make lunch for the two of us, and then 733 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 4: I had, you know, four hours of the day where 734 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 4: I would make lunch, make dinner, and my wife would 735 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: come home and we'd have dinner. And I just started 736 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 4: doing it over and over again, and I got interested 737 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 4: in it. 738 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 2: And do you, I mean, are you cooking multiple times 739 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 2: a week? 740 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, I cook, you know. I cook for the 741 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 4: kids most of their meals, and I cook for my wife. Yeah, 742 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 4: I do. I do almost all the cooking in the house. 743 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: And does this happen after work? 744 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: I don't. 745 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: What is your Your schedule to me is out of control? 746 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 4: Breakfast, dinner, that's there's a lunch, of course we're at 747 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 4: work for. But yeah, I'll usually make breakfast, and sometimes 748 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 4: I sometimes I'll make waffles or pancakes or. 749 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 2: Shaped pancakes that feel good. 750 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 4: Yes, sometimes they get crazy and I'll make like I'll 751 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 4: make like a breakfast taco of some kind. But and 752 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 4: then I'll come home and if my wife is hungry, 753 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: I'll make dinner. Otherwise I try not try not to 754 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 4: eat dinner. 755 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: Do you have any interest in opening a restaurant or 756 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: anything like that. 757 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 4: Well, I do have, you know, I I have investments 758 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 4: in restaurants and with some of my friends, but not 759 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 4: you know, that's really hard work. I don't think people 760 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 4: realize how hard restaurant workers. I mean that is you 761 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 4: are on your feet, really working. I think I'm just 762 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: too old for that. 763 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: Sure, sure, Where do you like to eat in LA. 764 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 4: I like to eat? I'd say the restaurants that I 765 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: eat at most are apl which is on Hollywood and Vine, 766 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: which is a barbecue place and steakhouse. And Connie and Ted's, 767 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 4: which is a seafood place. Wonderful, wonderful cheeseburger on Crescent Heights. 768 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 4: And they do have a very good cheeseburger. Yeah. I 769 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 4: know that because my daughter will order that, eat none 770 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 4: of it and I eat all the rest of it. 771 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really one of the best in town. 772 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 4: I think the best thing they have, I think is 773 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 4: everything they make is great. But they have a Rhode 774 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 4: Island style clam chowder. 775 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: I've never had clam chowder. 776 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: Oh, well, clam chowder if you like clams, I mean 777 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 4: I love clams like Linguinian clams is mit is my 778 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 4: death row meal. But the clam chowder, you know, typically 779 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 4: it's either Manhattan or New England style, so it's either 780 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 4: that creamy white clam chowder or it's the red brothy. 781 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: But this is more of a seafood. It's almost like 782 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 4: it looks like a chicken broth, and give these little 783 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 4: crackers to put in it, and it's got clams and 784 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 4: they're cooked just beautifully. They're not overcooked and very good. 785 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, my only exposure to clam chowder has been the 786 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 2: white clam chowder, which I never ate. It just seemed 787 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 2: kind of like a glue consistency with canned clams, which 788 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: it's a hard sell. But I feel like a good 789 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 2: clam chowder I could probably get into. 790 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. I want to get the Rhode Island 791 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 4: style clam chowder. Connoting Ted's yeah. 792 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 2: Okay, well, look I think we should play a game. Okay, 793 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: do you want to play a game called gift or 794 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 2: a curse or a game called Gift Master. 795 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 4: Gift, a curse, Gift or a curse. 796 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 2: Okay, give me a number between one and ten six. Okay, 797 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating, so right now, 798 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: you can promote something, you can recommend something, you can 799 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 2: sing a song that won't be a copyright issue. You 800 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: can do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 801 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 4: Okay, since we're talking about cooking, I will talk about tortillas, 802 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 4: because tortillas are you know, they're all pretty good. But 803 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 4: they have these tortillas now that most people probably know about. 804 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 4: But if you don't, you're going to go crazy and 805 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 4: be so thankful to me for this. They're raw, they're dough, 806 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 4: they're they're I think like a company called Tortilla Land, 807 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 4: and there's some other company that sells them. And you 808 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 4: put them in the frying pan and you cook them 809 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 4: and then you have fresh tortillas. They actually they create 810 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 4: these big like air bubbles like a great pizza, you know, 811 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 4: and then they are a little burn marks on them. 812 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 4: Have you had these? 813 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you were speaking to me on such an 814 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: incredible level. I think on this podcast probably multiple times, 815 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: I've complained about a factory made tortilla because I think 816 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 2: it's a factory made tortilla is one of the biggest 817 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: crimes that's being perpetrated right now. I get these ones 818 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 2: at this place in downtown La called it's called Loki 819 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 2: and they sell you like a dozen for six dollars 820 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 2: or something, and they're likely half made and so great. 821 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: You heat them up and they taste so much better. 822 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 4: They're par cooked. 823 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: Tried making some tortilla's early pen Park. It's extremely difficult. 824 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 4: Dark. Yes, you know, Clito are leader. You know's been 825 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 4: my friend since I was nine years old. His mom 826 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 4: has tried to teach me how to make tortillas, and 827 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 4: I just I don't know. I can't get it. 828 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 2: They're hard to roll out, They're either too thick or 829 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: too thin. And I ripped Crisco. How do you spill 830 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: lowkey by the way, l o q ui? 831 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 4: I believe? 832 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, very good tacos and then you can buy 833 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: the tortillas. One of the you know, benefits of the 834 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: pandemic is these places now selling the things that you 835 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: couldn't buy before, and tortillas are one of them. 836 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 4: Oh nice. 837 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 2: But look, we're gonna play gift or a curse. This 838 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: is how it works. I'm gonna name three things, and 839 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna tell me if there are a gift or 840 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: a curse and why. Okay, and I have to be 841 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 2: extremely clear there are correct answers. There are objectively correct answers, 842 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: and so you can lose this game. Okay, so first up, 843 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 2: this is a listener suggestion, gift or a curse demolition derbys, 844 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: and that's from let's give some credit to Katie m hm. 845 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to say gift, not because I would 846 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 4: want to go to one, right, but because if someone 847 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 4: tells me they go to demolition derby. 848 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 2: So that's kind of all I need to know. I 849 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 2: don't have to do any more prying investigator, I don't. 850 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 2: I don't need to know anything more. I just know 851 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 2: that we're probably not going to hang out. Oh okay, Jimmy, 852 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 2: Well look you got the first one, right. I think 853 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: they're absolutely a gift. And this is what I'm going 854 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: to say, which may come at some level of surprise. 855 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I've probably been to a demolition derby, but 856 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 2: the concept to me wonderful. You get to go to 857 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: a place and watch cars just slam into each other. Sure, 858 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 2: I'm on board with that. It's so the opposite of 859 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: how we behave all the rest of the time. Oh, 860 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 2: you put a ding in my car, give me your 861 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 2: insurance information, you know, like I gotta buff this out. 862 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 4: I doing everything. Oh, I scratched the side of the 863 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 4: goddamn truck. And you go to this thing and people 864 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,439 Speaker 4: are intentionally driving them into each other. 865 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something very thrilling about it. 866 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 4: I feel like I've now unfairly judged those who go to. 867 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: Those Thank you. I think an apology is due to 868 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: me and to the rest of the demolition derby audience. 869 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 2: I guess the noise factor. I'm not a big noise person, 870 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: so that part. If I could go to a silent 871 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 2: demolition derby, that would really be a key thing for me. 872 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 4: I don't mind the noise, it's the smell the feet. 873 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 2: Well, how about like a Tesla demolition Derby. 874 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 4: I feel like that would be nice. 875 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: I could put that out in the air somebody, some billionaire. 876 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 4: To go to a preus demolition derby. You know, in fact, 877 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 4: my daughter has a car that could qualify it. It's like, 878 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's a pres I bought her in 879 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 4: high school and she still has if she's thirty, and 880 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 4: we could crash that thing up pretty good. 881 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 2: The Katie Kimmel Demolition Derby. I think that's a great idea. Okay, 882 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 2: you've got one so far. Number two This may be 883 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 2: an all listeners suggestion gifter a curse, so this could 884 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 2: be interesting. This is from someone named JAF. I don't 885 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 2: know what that means. Giftter a curse. Cinnamon toothpaste. Okay, 886 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 2: first of all, this is Jimmy Fallon who set this in. 887 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 2: I know what Jam's saying. Yeah, cinnimon toothpaste. I'm gonna say, 888 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 2: curse why. I don't think toothpaste should taste like food. 889 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 2: I think it's confusing to the mouth. 890 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 4: I have my kids have chocolate toothpaste, which is truly vile. 891 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know, you're you know, you're supposed 892 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 4: to be cleaning that out of there, not putting it in. 893 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 4: And once you start eating that kind of toothpaste, which 894 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 4: you know, I'm a coldgate man myself. 895 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 2: Oh interesting. 896 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 4: Once you really go for the food based toothpaste, I 897 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 4: don't know that there's any coming. 898 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 2: Back right right look for you know, for a little 899 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 2: bit of tension's sake. I would love to say that 900 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 2: you're wrong here, but I'm also I feel like cinnamon 901 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: toothpaste sounds so terrible. Also, don't I don't need the 902 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 2: toothpaste encouraging me to swallow it should be encouraging you 903 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 2: to spit out. 904 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I exactly. 905 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 2: I mean we have a whole trend of things going 906 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: on where things taste like other things, you know, yogurt 907 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: tasting like a peanut butter sandwich. Let's just have let's 908 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 2: keep everything in its separate category, is what I'm thinking. 909 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 4: I agree, But I will say that cinnamon toothpicks I 910 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 4: am very interesting. 911 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like a mint or a cinnamon toothpick. I 912 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 2: like a toothpick in general. To be honest, me too. 913 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 4: I like the guys who carry him around, you know, 914 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 4: like you know, the guys that carry flavored toothpicks around 915 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 4: or like always like, even if they're not your uncle, 916 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 4: you feel like they are. 917 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 2: That guy is always a pervert. That's just a sign 918 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 2: of a true pervert. I mean, as one of the 919 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 2: least cool people on the planet, I still with a 920 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 2: toothpick in my mouth. It elevates you a little bit. 921 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 2: You feel kind of like a tough guy for a minute. 922 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: And there's somewhere. 923 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 4: Between the tough guy and Huckleberry Finn right right. 924 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 2: If you get a cinnamon there, that's just a bonus. Okay, 925 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 2: you're doing very well. I hope you know, no one. 926 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone's ever won this game. So 927 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: let's let's see what happens here. A final one. This 928 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 2: is from a listener named Aaron. This is a gift 929 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 2: or a curse Frozen grapes as quote unquote healthy candy. 930 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 4: No, that's a curse. Yeah, that's just sad. I mean 931 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 4: that's you know, that's where you've hit rock bottom when 932 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 4: you're you're going through your Weight Watchers cards and you know, 933 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 4: that's where you're like, you're getting some like sugar free 934 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 4: ice cream and pouring diet strawberry soda over top of it. 935 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,919 Speaker 4: And I mean it's really deserved. It's just like it's 936 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 4: something it's like a It's like something my ant Frand 937 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 4: would have done in like nineteen eighty one. 938 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: Jimmy, what a wonderful little defense you've come up with here. 939 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 2: But unfortunately, I think that despite the fact that I've 940 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 2: never had one, a frozen grape as a healthy candy 941 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 2: is absolutely a gift. I mean, what are we even 942 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 2: talking about. You're getting a nice little piece of fruit. 943 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 2: I imagine it's cold. You know, more than five people I 944 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: know have tried them, so there must be something happening there. 945 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 4: And yeah, tried them is the key word though, right, 946 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 4: It's not like a lifestyle, it's something you go, eh, yeah, 947 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 4: I tried it. I think about think about getting on 948 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 4: like a Mexican airline. Okay, you know that the little 949 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 4: fruit salad that comes with it. 950 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 951 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. There's always grapes that have been previously frozen, and 952 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 4: there's nothing good about them. And to me, when I 953 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 4: think of frozen grapes, I'm comparing them to grapes, which 954 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 4: are which I am very in favor of. I mean, 955 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 4: grapes are delicious, a nice cold grape, but once it reaches, 956 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 4: once it gets grows beneath that temperature which it freezes, 957 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 4: I'm not in favor. 958 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 2: There is a worry there for me texturally. But that said, 959 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 2: just to keep things balanced on this game, I'm just 960 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 2: going to not let you win. I feel like I had. 961 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 4: To get all three. I put to of three wins. 962 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 2: No, two out of three does not win. Two out 963 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 2: of three is a sixty six percent. And I mean, 964 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 2: you're round. This is not a show that rounds. You 965 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 2: do not round up on I said, no gifts, but 966 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 2: very good job. Anyway, let's answer this is called I 967 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 2: said no questions. People are writing into I said no 968 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 2: gifts at gmail dot com. They're desperate for answers. Would 969 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 2: you help me answer a question? 970 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 4: Sure? 971 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 2: Okay, this says let's see here. This is got a 972 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 2: good start. Hello. My father's wife is a terrible woman. 973 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 2: She truly dislikes my siblings and I. Passive aggressor should 974 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 2: be her middle name. Okay, one year she gave us 975 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 2: the movie Pay It Forward on VHS. That's an interesting detail. 976 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 2: Please know that there is more than enough money for 977 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 2: my father and her to want for nothing. Okay, so 978 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: we're dealing with a wealthy woman. Now, as an adult, 979 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 2: I get to keep my distance from these toxic people, 980 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 2: and I've let go of trying so hard to be 981 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 2: the bigger person. My question is, what do you give 982 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 2: a garbage person of a stepmother and father that basically 983 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 2: acts like a distant uncle. Sincerely, Jade. Now this is 984 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 2: interesting because it just seems like Jade despises these stupieople just. 985 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 4: Want to get something off his chest or her chest. 986 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 987 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 4: Yes, there's not even like indicate what holiday it is? 988 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 4: I mean, was is it a birthday? Is it Christmas? 989 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 4: Is an anniversary? What are we talking about here? 990 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 2: I feel like Jade knows that the stepmom and dad 991 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: listened to this podcast and just wanted it to be 992 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 2: out there for them to hear how much he or 993 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 2: she hates them. 994 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 4: I will say I'm glad. I think it's healthy that 995 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 4: Jade didn't limit the blame to the stepmother, because I 996 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 4: am always of the opinion that if you marry someone 997 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 4: who treats your children badly, your children obviously from a 998 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 4: previous marriage, that that reflects on you more than it 999 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 4: does on the person who comes into the family. 1000 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're there to protect the kids. 1001 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're your children. You should be closer to them 1002 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 4: than you are to your spouse. 1003 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 2: Right, I mean it's just a tragic situation. I mean 1004 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 2: the fact that this person's writing in this podcast. All 1005 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,879 Speaker 2: that said, what do you get a gift for someone 1006 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 2: that you don't like? 1007 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,879 Speaker 4: Pay it Forward on VHS? 1008 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 2: I guess, how about upgrade to laser disc? I feel like, 1009 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 2: pay it Forward on laser disc or a poster? 1010 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 4: What year did pay It Forward come out? 1011 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,240 Speaker 2: Pay It Forward to me feels like a two thousand 1012 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 2: and two movie. 1013 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 4: Okay, so in two thousand and two there were no 1014 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 4: VHS tape. 1015 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 2: That was like the last breadth of VHS was probably 1016 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 2: two thousand and one. 1017 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 4: Okay, it came out October twentieth, two thousand. 1018 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm two years off. I lose the. 1019 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 4: Game, so yes, and so it is available on VHS. 1020 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 4: So this is not a lie that this person made up. 1021 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 4: But I'm in two thousand, no one had VHS players. 1022 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 4: In fact, we were moving away from DVDs at that 1023 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 4: point into the Blu ray world, right. 1024 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 2: I think that was two thousand to me is like 1025 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 2: did you get the Matrix on DVD? I think that 1026 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 2: was the big exciting thing to say around that period. 1027 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 2: So I think that we were just headed into DVD territory. 1028 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 2: So VHS was not an exciting gift to get at 1029 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 2: that point. It was something you would buy used at 1030 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 2: a blockbuster. 1031 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, it was definitely not a new item, 1032 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 4: and if it was, it was in the discount beIN. Yeah, 1033 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 4: ninety seven, DVDs really came out. 1034 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 2: So this is well into the death of the VHS. 1035 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 2: The stepmother, and also I feel like giving somebody pay 1036 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 2: it forward as a gift is kind of a It 1037 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 2: is a passive aggressive move saying I mean the concept. 1038 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 4: I think. 1039 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 2: I remember if the movie is I mean literally the 1040 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 2: title you do nice things. 1041 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 4: For people, I think, yeah, somebody does something nice for 1042 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 4: you and then you have to go and do something 1043 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,479 Speaker 4: nice for someone else. So maybe the gift is two 1044 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,240 Speaker 4: third party who's not in You can say, hey, listen, 1045 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 4: I watch that movie Paid Forward. You gave me thanks 1046 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 4: again for that. That was wonderful. What I did is 1047 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 4: I bought a VHS of Easy Money and I gave 1048 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 4: it to some asshole in my apartment complex. 1049 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 2: I mean, Jade has just I mean, I feel like, 1050 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,479 Speaker 2: you know, usually I'm ready to recommend things. I feel 1051 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 2: like the gift Jade gives Stepmom and Dad is lose 1052 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 2: their number. I think it's just time to cut them 1053 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 2: off completely. 1054 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well it sounds like she already has. 1055 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 2: Or maybe this, you know, this is rock bottom for 1056 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 2: their relationship and this brings them back together. Maybe she's 1057 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 2: she hears her words echoed back to her and calls 1058 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 2: them up and they watch finally get together and watch 1059 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 2: Pay It Forward. 1060 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 4: Or maybe she really wants to fuck with her give 1061 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 4: her a great gift that will blow her mind and 1062 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 4: confuse her to no end, you know, like a really 1063 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 4: beautiful bracelet or something like that, and she's just like, 1064 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 4: what the what I must have misjudged this stepdaughter completely. 1065 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: If there's ever been an opportunity for these to give 1066 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 2: a gift or to give a car with a giant 1067 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 2: bow on top, I think this is. 1068 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 4: The this is the time. 1069 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the you know, the Lexus sales event of 1070 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 2: the season or whatever. Go buy it, put a giant. 1071 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 4: Bow on top. My cousin Ivy did that to my 1072 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 4: daughter Katie when she turned like seventeen. She'd rented a 1073 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 4: car she was in an accident, or rented like a 1074 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 4: truck or something. And then it was Katie's birthday party 1075 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 4: and she pulled up into the driveway in this truck, 1076 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 4: and then she decided to be funny to go in 1077 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 4: the house and say like, hey, Katie, look, look, And 1078 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 4: Katie was very excited and then realized that it was 1079 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 4: not her car. And I don't think Katie's ever forgiven him. 1080 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't blame her at all. That's so mean. Oh 1081 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: that's heartbreaking. 1082 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad. 1083 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well, you know we tried our best here. 1084 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 2: That's all anybody can ask of this podcast is that 1085 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 2: everyone tried that's. 1086 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 4: All iyone can ask of anything, right. 1087 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 2: Right, Jimmy, this is the end of the show. 1088 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 4: I mean, oh what should I do? Then? Look? 1089 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 2: I struggle every time to end the po because. 1090 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 4: The dismount is hard. Yeah, the dismount is hard. People 1091 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 4: don't realize that's the underrated moment of the interview. It's 1092 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 4: it's kind of you know, sometimes it's a little slow 1093 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 4: getting into it, but you know, an introduction always helps 1094 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 4: wrap that. 1095 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 2: You know what a plug is a nice way to 1096 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 2: get out is that. I'm looking for a point, but 1097 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 2: we should give you a plug. Jimmy has a little 1098 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 2: show on I believe it airs on ABC every once 1099 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,240 Speaker 2: in a while. 1100 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 4: Plug Loki again. I mean, we don't need sure, but 1101 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 4: it gives you some information to talk about. 1102 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,760 Speaker 2: We can plug your daughter Katie Kimmel. I've I've plugged 1103 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: her on this podcast before. I think that she's great. 1104 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 2: Her things make a great gift. She makes some amazing 1105 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 2: ceramic items. 1106 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 4: And very concess she makes funny uh ceramics and T 1107 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 4: shirts and paintings and she's at Katie Kimmel k A 1108 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 4: T I E. Kimmel on Instagram. 1109 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for being here. It's been 1110 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 2: just a delight and. 1111 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 4: It was my pleasure. I'm glad I got a chance 1112 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 4: to talk to you for a second time. Yeah, we 1113 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 4: talked more times than that, by the way, right. 1114 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 2: We probably did, but I'm telling you every time, I mean, 1115 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 2: there's just a layer of when somebody is the authority 1116 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 2: in the situation, it's very You're like, I can't say 1117 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: anything wrong right now, and that you not that you 1118 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 2: ever even showed signs of like it's not like you're 1119 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 2: this wild dictator that was just firing people left and right. 1120 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 2: But in my mind, I was like, if I move 1121 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,760 Speaker 2: an inch. 1122 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Did I fire anyone during the 1123 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 4: time the whole time you were. 1124 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 2: There, Not that I know of, But that's why I 1125 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 2: was like, well then it's going to be me. I'm 1126 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 2: most likely candidate, so I don't know God perfectly. Well, well, 1127 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 2: it's very nice talking to you. Yes, thank you so 1128 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 2: much for this volleyball. It's going to go do some 1129 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 2: sort of mantle and it will never be tossed in 1130 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 2: the air, at least not at me. 1131 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 4: And give my best to your team. 1132 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 2: No, of course, of course, listener, this is the end 1133 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,240 Speaker 2: of the show. As we've been discussing for a few minutes. 1134 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 2: So now you have to decide what you'll do next 1135 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 2: in life, and I trust you. I think you're going 1136 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 2: to do a great job. Take care, I said, No 1137 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 2: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our 1138 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 2: dear friend on Alise Nelson and the theme song is 1139 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 2: by miracle worker Amy Mann. 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You gotta come 1149 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 3: to me empty and. 1150 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: I said, no guests, your presences, presents and. 1151 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 3: I already had too much stuff, So how do you 1152 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 3: dare to surbey me?